[08:50] Good Morning friends [08:50] o/ [08:50] hi ho [08:51] \o [08:51] moin [10:14] hey all [10:14] <@Sick_Rimmit>: Hello renee77 [10:15] <@Sick_Rimmit>: How are you ? [10:15] hiho renee77 [10:15] I'm strugling [10:15] lol [10:17] I cant figure out what I am supposed to do with triaging, I know how it is done but not know where I get involved. There a many bugreports saying the are duplicates etc but not assigned or redirected [10:17] * clivejo is struggling too [10:17] * renee77 hugs@clivejo [10:17] * clivejo kicks git [10:17] hehe that is my next question [10:18] <@Sick_Rimmit>: Alright renee77 [10:18] trying to get partitiomanager in kdevelop [10:18] <@Sick_Rimmit>: I am at work right now, but I can help you later this evening [10:18] but git support plugin unchecks everytime [10:19] Tonight not sure it is kingsday but will try to come online if possible, but I will look for you tomorow evening [10:21] For now does anyone know why I cant select git support? [10:21] or do I have to uncheck github provider [10:22] been searching online but not getting to a solution [10:31] * renee77 feeling stupid, I think it helps to install git package (made a clean install yesterday *blush* [10:32] but on the plus side, you'll never make that mistake again :) [10:33] hehe true [10:35] * ahoneybun has too much sleep [10:35] * clivejo has not enough sleep [10:35] * clivejo had nightmares about git [10:36] yakes [10:37] lol wanna talk about it ;-) [10:38] The git archive become aware and tried to take over the world [10:38] and I accidently deleted debian's repo's [10:38] :O [10:39] lol [10:39] ahh but it wanted to have beter clivejo repo's [10:39] bugless [10:39] which meant debian was dead and I was the most hated person in the Debian world [10:40] aiiii [10:42] and LP repo just kept growing and evolving, spawning new branches for emotions and thought [10:42] craziness all round! [10:42] how could this happen ? [10:43] it cant :P [10:43] you cloned repos, changed remotes and uploade dto LP ? [10:43] LOL [10:43] soee: it was a dream, I was half asleep [10:43] ~.~ [10:43] logic and reason dont exist [10:45] normal people dream about monsters and the undead, I dream about git repo's becoming self aware! [11:04] <@Sick_Rimmit>: OK, I just go to find a link for you, which has good info about Bug. [11:05] <@Sick_Rimmit>: Here we are, this is Ovidiu, Aaron and I talking about Bug Triage, how it works for Kubuntu, where to go and what to do. [11:05] <@Sick_Rimmit>: https://plus.google.com/b/112102796730023795852/events/c256vvlan1utb4hs8li9euomv28 [11:15] Howdy folks [11:18] clivejo: I'm pretty sure someday a frustrated sysadmin will attach a neural network to a git repo, then it'll be self-aware [11:22] that's a scary thought [11:33] IKR [11:49] YAAAAAAAAY! [11:50] my fav game series ever Tomb Raider and this: Feral Interactive has let the cat out of the bag: Tomb Raider is shipping for Linux today!.. [11:53] RIP life [11:54] :D [12:24] Hi soee, sitter, yofel , a user is aking if the devs are going to "port" kjots to Xenial ? [12:26] aking-asking [12:27] is it part of KDE apps [12:27] ? [12:29] !package kjots [12:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about package kjots [12:29] !package kjot [12:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about package kjot [12:30] !xenial kjot [12:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about xenial kjot [12:30] !info kjots xenial [12:30] Package kjots does not exist in xenial [12:30] !info kjots trusty [12:30] kjots (source: kdepim): note-taking utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.1 (trusty), package size 389 kB, installed size 1378 kB [12:30] ah, now I remember [12:31] BluesKaj: no, that's one of the applications that the kdepim developers killed during the kf5 porting (at least for now) [12:46] yofel: http://download.kde.org/stable/kjots/ [12:47] ah, so it's back, thanks [13:21] yofel, thanks for your answer, I passed it on. [13:22] yw. The 'no' for xenial stands even with there being a 5.0.1 release [13:23] * yofel wonders if one could do that with snappy.. [14:42] * genii makes more coffee === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [18:37] Hi guys this should definitely be posted to the Wire - esp. since there's been no activity since January ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jsZ3xw0lck&feature=youtu.be [18:37] * clivejo rolls eyes [18:37] thats a beta release [18:38] !info plasma-desktop [18:38] plasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.4.2-0ubuntu2 (wily), package size 1620 kB, installed size 7975 kB [18:38] !info plasma-desktop xenial [18:38] plasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 1575 kB, installed size 7751 kB [18:38] we shipped 5.5.5 not 5.5.4 [18:38] and apps 15.12.3 instead of 15.12.1 [18:44] so...maybe post with an asterisked clarification? [18:45] or review the released version :/ [18:46] fair enough. just don't shoot the messenger ;) [18:46] I wouldnt shoot you :P [18:47] and the trout is reserved for soee_ [18:48] clivejo: Here's a herring. 🐟 You can use that instead. :) [18:52] yofel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY1bFbGbQDg 6mins in [18:52] Device Manager worked in Virtual Box, but not on actual hardware [18:53] well 5.38 onwards [18:54] can anyone confirm that? [18:56] lol [19:23] * soee installs Tomb Raider on steam ... :) [19:24] soee: are you on kubuntu or neon? [19:25] clivejo: kubuntu [19:25] * clivejo wonders if the device manager is working in Neon [19:26] device ? [19:27] settings > device manager [19:27] allows you to install 3rd party drivers for video etc [19:27] hasnt worked in a while [19:31] <@athoneycutt>: /me uses NVIDIA Cards so might have issues with ath [19:32] <@athoneycutt>: *that [19:32] Aaron do you know what its called? [19:32] I know the settings is called KCM [19:32] <@athoneycutt>: Driver Manager? [19:32] yup [19:32] like what package installs it [19:32] also who runs the bot here? [19:33] <@athoneycutt>: we used to use Jockey till shadeshalyer made his own [19:33] <@athoneycutt>: the IRC one? [19:33] needs to be updated to make xenial current [19:33] and dev aka yak +1 [19:34] <@athoneycutt>: no clue about the package name [19:36] so driver or device manager ... ? [19:36] <@athoneycutt>: Driver Manager I believe [19:37] <@athoneycutt>: you can still use "jockey" I think when using krunner [19:38] ah found it kcmshell5 kcm_driver_manager [19:38] kubuntu-driver-manager ? [19:38] <@athoneycutt>: maybe [19:38] !package kubuntu-driver-manager [19:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about package kubuntu-driver-manager [19:38] !package kubuntu-driver-manager xenial [19:38] soee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:38] !info package [19:38] Package package does not exist in wily [19:39] !info kubuntu-driver-manager xenial [19:39] kubuntu-driver-manager (source: kubuntu-driver-manager): Driver Manager for Kubuntu. In component universe, is optional. Version 15.10ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 65 kB, installed size 371 kB [19:39] Bug 1530523 [19:39] bug 1530523 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1530523 [19:39] <@athoneycutt>: I think I'm hitting that too [19:39] Here also [19:39] +1 [19:39] <@athoneycutt>: never bothered to open it since 15.10 [19:40] <@athoneycutt>: /me confirms [19:40] dont think it worked in 15.10 either [19:40] It's stalling in both Wily and Xenial for me [19:41] <@athoneycutt>: /me hates HexChat [19:41] <@athoneycutt>: on Windows anyway [19:41] dont use windows :P [19:41] * clivejo shakes head [19:41] <@athoneycutt>: yea [19:42] <@athoneycutt>: whatever [19:42] well in the end it allows to install 2 things: microcode for cpu and gpu driver and both can be installed manually :) [19:42] LOL [19:42] yeah, but why isnt it installing the 2 things mr soee [19:43] because it i scollecting data of whoel world :D it is spy [19:43] <@athoneycutt>: damn it synergy is not passing my mouse input... [19:51] * clivejo wonders why it only has a s390x for xenial [19:52] clivejo: Probably because the other arches were copied from Wily and it was never uploaded directly to Xenial. [19:53] Ive thrown a 16.04version rebuild at LP [19:53] maybe some of the toolchain has been updated from the binary was built? [19:54] its building ok :/ [19:54] ok lets install the rebuild [19:57] nope, still failing [19:57] clivejo: can I help with anyting, [19:57] no idea what I am doing [19:58] but lets not let that get in the way :-) [19:58] Im trying to figure out why the device manager isnt working [20:00] source code seems to be here - http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch/garg/kcm-driver-manager.git [20:00] would you have a look rick [20:03] sure [20:03] can you help me setup kdevelop? [20:05] Yep [20:05] Installed. [20:05] ? [20:05] it will be in a sec [20:06] You'll need the Git plugin enabled.. it is in settings > configure kdevelop > plugins [20:06] Check Git to turn it on [20:07] looks like its on [20:07] let me know when your ready and I can talk you through pulling the kcm-driver-code [20:07] ok lets try [20:08] project > fetch project [20:08] Change cvs from SVN to Git [20:08] create a folder say kcm-driver-mngr [20:08] then paste [20:09] git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/garg/kcm-driver-manager.git [20:09] in the source box [20:09] hit Get [20:11] how do I know its done it? [20:11] The next button with go Blue [20:11] then you click it [20:12] oh ok [20:12] sitting waiting on nothing! [20:12] patience [20:12] If it let you click Get then it's all goof [20:12] s/goof/good/ [20:12] yeah [20:13] but I kinda expected something to happen [20:13] *ping* foods done [20:13] Cool [20:13] see in the white window the git call and then exit 0 [20:14] Kdevelop hands off to git, and then has to wait for git to clone and return a status [20:14] That used to catch me out, I would think it had crashed [20:14] could probably benefit from a progress bar [20:15] So now you have the project listed with Master in grey next to it. [20:15] this is the branch currently checked out [20:15] ok Im in the next sreen [20:15] yeah, can see the project [20:15] I go into src? [20:15] Just keep clicking next until the end [20:15] the default project managers are fine [20:16] ok [20:16] debfx: hey, do you remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/739943 ? [20:16] Launchpad bug 739943 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "package kubuntu-default-settings 1:11.04ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Medium,Fix released] [20:16] back to the green start screen [20:16] (setting the original /etc/newt/palette rather than /etc/newt/palette.ubuntu) [20:17] OK, so now you have a kcm-driver-manager session ? [20:17] can you click that ? [20:17] !image [20:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about image [20:17] !imgur [20:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about imgur [20:17] !paste [20:17] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:17] debfx: I'm asking only because I was surprised to see it changed by kubuntu-settings on my system, and wondered if it still made sense to make that change (ie. if it really makes a difference for the kubuntu colors, that's a good reason) [20:17] I dont see a session [20:19] some thing like this [20:19] http://imgur.com/yO2Iq7s [20:20] We can dive into BBB if it gets tricky, and share screen [20:20] I think I have that now [20:21] OK Cool [20:21] So now the question is what is or is not the beahviour you were expecting [20:21] cyphermox: no, that was 5 years ago :P [20:21] debfx: I understand ;) [20:21] I can see main.cpp [20:21] K_PLUGIN_FACTORY(KcmDriverFactory, [20:21] registerPlugin("kcm-driver-manager");) [20:22] cyphermox: anyway I'm no longer involved in kubuntu development so you have to discuss that with current kubuntu-devs [20:22] debfx: mmkay [20:22] * sick_rimmit grabs monacle and heads off to main.cpp [20:24] Hmmm. [20:24] * sick_rimmit Wonders what the status of clivejo: libqapt installation is [20:25] huh? [20:25] standard or clivejo: packaged [20:25] I dont understand the question! [20:25] module.h [20:25] sets up 3 namespace deps [20:25] one of which is Qapt [20:26] yeah, that would be to do that installation of the drivers [20:26] completely guessing here, as I don't know what kcm is doing or not doing [20:27] This probes the system for hardware that could benefit from propriety software and installs it [20:27] ie NVidia grpahics driver [20:27] Ah yes, replaces jockey [20:27] I think its a front end to something [20:27] the problem with it is ? [20:28] libqapt will be the install / search cache [20:28] I reckon [20:28] problem is Bug 1530523 [20:28] bug 1530523 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1530523 [20:28] Oh ah right [20:30] Can you reproduce it on your machine ? [20:30] I am on 15.10 here right now [20:30] yes [20:31] OK.. [20:31] I think it does same on 15.10 [20:31] can you try? [20:31] Nope works for me [20:31] hummm [20:31] so whats changed! [20:31] try calling it from the command line, see what output you get [20:32] nothing [20:32] hmmm [20:32] did your new builds of libqapt make it into Xenial, the one for muon ? [20:32] yes [20:32] hmmm not that then [20:32] Odds are that kcm is using libqapt in a similar way to muon [20:33] try calling it again but this time with strace [20:33] strace kcm-manager or whatever its called [20:33] the only change to libqapt was to make it emmit signals [20:33] that would fit the frame [20:33] I mean the previous version [20:34] where it didn't emit them [20:34] thats why muon was crashing [20:34] If kcm has a slot awaiting a signal then et voila! stuck code [20:34] ok don;t worry too much about that [20:34] can you get strace to run kcm [20:37] it runs and gets stuck [20:37] strace keeps displaying this over and over [20:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/16088409/ [20:39] * sick_rimmit grabs monacle [20:40] If you sit for a few seconds hands off machine does it continue output [20:41] yes [20:41] strace is a Stack trace utility so it picks up mouse, kdb, everything really [20:41] just sits there doing that [20:41] until I close the window [20:41] Ok so it is stuck in a loop doing something [20:42] question is what ? [20:42] so run it again without strace then ps uax to find its process id [20:42] was hoping you could answer that [20:42] then lets try lsof [20:42] * sick_rimmit needs man pages [20:43] ah yes [20:44] lsof -p [20:44] that will tell us what it is doing [20:47] looks like it refreshed my package list [20:47] dev/urandom [20:47] /tmp/qapt-sock-3bf25b14c38b41b3a3540f48d3546b04 [20:49] Alright that's progress [20:50] it is? [20:50] So it's waiting on the qapt socket [20:50] what does that mean? [20:51] it is an interprocess communication [20:51] ah [20:51] kcm -> qapt [20:51] so now it is qapt that is doing something and kcm is awaiting it [20:51] so ps uax qapt [20:52] and lsof again [20:52] what is qapt doing ? [20:52] nothing [20:53] its not running [20:53] Ah ok, because it's a library [20:53] * sick_rimmit thinking.... [21:02] * sick_rimmit running kcm here [21:03] what version of libqapt are you running in wily? [21:03] Ah the one I compiled [21:03] good point [21:06] what is the comand to invoke kcm [21:08] kcmshell5 kcm_driver_manager [21:08] did you install libqapt globally? [21:09] !info libqapt3 wily [21:09] libqapt3 (source: libqapt): QApt library package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-0ubuntu1.1 (wily), package size 133 kB, installed size 418 kB [21:10] Ah brill [21:10] Ah ah [21:10] !paste [21:10] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/16088695/ [21:11] Compare that with what you got [21:12] Ill have to install it again! [21:12] just a sec [21:17] * soee_ 50 minutes [21:17] ok I dont have /var/cache/apt-xapian-index/index.1/postlist.DB [21:18] I have the tmp/qapt-sock [21:19] but not the anon_inode [21:19] kcmshell5 22846 clivejo 64u unix 0x0000000000000000 0t0 575670 type=STREAM [21:19] I have that instead [21:23] hmmm apt-xapian installed ? [21:24] dpkg --get-selections | grep apt-xapian [21:24] wondering if it is a missing dependency [21:29] !info apt-xapian [21:29] Package apt-xapian does not exist in wily [21:30] !info apt-xapian-index [21:30] apt-xapian-index (source: apt-xapian-index): maintenance and search tools for a Xapian index of Debian packages. In component main, is optional. Version 0.46ubuntu1 (wily), package size 55 kB, installed size 328 kB [21:30] !info apt-xapian-index xenial [21:30] apt-xapian-index (source: apt-xapian-index): maintenance and search tools for a Xapian index of Debian packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.47ubuntu8 (xenial), package size 56 kB, installed size 268 kB [21:31] Ah I wonder if it brought it in for me when I did build-dep for Muojn [21:31] valorie mentioned she had xapian when she installed muon [21:32] issues [21:32] xapian seems to be the search library / indexer for apt [21:32] yeah [21:32] I read this today on J Thomas's blog [21:32] tends to just work [21:33] Well.. [21:33] what we do know is that in your instance. kcmshell is blocked by a non returning socket /var/qapt [21:34] I am afraid at this point I am out of my depth [21:34] me too [21:34] hmmm, apt-cache policy tells me I have it installed [21:34] I wonder would Carlo know? [21:34] but I reckon pasting all this info to the LP Bug will really help the next person [21:34] Rick, mind doing that? [21:34] Im about ready for bed! [21:35] Can I get a paste of your lsof output [21:36] :( Ive shut it all down [21:36] does yours show a list of drivers you can install? [21:41] Bug updated :-D [21:41] I'm going to wrap it up [21:41] nite all [22:25] Hey I am back on my Ubuntu tablet using chatter client, pretty cool [22:26] Hey Carlo [22:27] I have been doing some bug triage on muon, and have created a local feature branch, made a few tiny tiny mods