[01:46] <ball> Hello m0nkey_
[01:50] <daftykins> uh oh
[01:50] <ball> daftykins: What's up?
[01:50] <ball> Did your thing arrive?
[01:51] <daftykins> hey :) not much, just made some pasta 'n' sauce. yep! new case in and PC put together
[01:51] <daftykins> good times were had for all of the 1hr i put it together
[01:51] <ball> Ah nice. How's it working?
[01:51] <daftykins> all ace - although i've kept the old graphics card so it's still got one foot in the past at least
[01:52] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/99kp0ykwzdj48ez/AABs_DXJAJvNCwdp4OaTTAxMa?dl=0
[01:52] <daftykins> few snaps there
[01:52] <ball> I'm sure it's more up-to-date than mine.
[01:52] <daftykins> well i replaced a december 2007 core 2 quad + DDR2 build :>
[01:53] <ball> I wonder how old my processor is.
[01:54] <daftykins> intel?
[01:54]  * ball nods
[01:55] <ball> Looks like it's about the same age: 2008
[01:55] <ball> Atom 330.
[01:55] <daftykins> oof :D
[01:55] <daftykins> that's the one in my retired HTPC
[01:56] <ball> It would suck as an HTPC.
[01:57] <ball> Still, I'm essentially running it headless.
[01:58] <ball> Tempted to buy an SSD or a new hard disk for it though.
[01:59] <daftykins> nah mine has the nvidia ion1 graphics, which is plenty for H.264 1080p decode
[02:00] <daftykins> ideal little nettop thing :) 40GB intel value SSD, ubuntu with Kodi on top
[02:00] <daftykins> just retired it as i got an amazon FireTV which does the job in a silent package
[02:00]  * ball nods
[02:01] <ball> I wondered whether you had an Ion. Wouldn't work at all well otherwise.
[02:01] <ball> Mine has a D945
[02:01] <daftykins> ah har
[02:02] <daftykins> to be honest atoms of that era are too weak really to even benefit from an SSD if a desktop OS is there, if it's a server that'll be fun
[02:02] <daftykins> or fine
[02:02]  * ball nods
[02:03] <ball> Mine runs NetBSD/i386.  I used to run amd64 on it but that recently broke.
[02:03] <ball> Not sure there's anyone left to fix it
[02:03] <daftykins> hrmm o0
[02:04] <ball> My daughter has an Ubuntu PC that seems to work surprisingly well.
[02:04] <ball> (given its weak AMD E-350 chip)
[02:05] <daftykins> is it a full unity release too?
[02:06] <ball> For years she ran Xubuntu but I thought I'd try Ubuntu on it last time I reimaged it so yes, she has Unity on there.
[02:06] <daftykins> ah, not too shabby
[02:06] <ball> I have an E-450 box that I could put Linux on too.
[02:07] <daftykins> :D
[02:07] <ball> Considered an AM1 board but I can't justify the purchase.
[02:08] <daftykins> i go through those struggles! took a while to cave into buying the above, half the SATA controllers in the old machine failing/going funny started to help though :D
[02:10] <ball> I'm tempted to try a Linux machine at the office.
[02:11] <daftykins> i remember getting told no once, at a new job D:
[02:12] <ball> I made a point of not asking.
[02:12] <ball> I've had a BSD desktop at the office for getting on towards four years now.
[02:12] <daftykins> hehe, that's a better strategy... that place didn't even have a license for me so i had to run the trial until expiry
[02:14] <ball> I need to go and lay down before I fall down.
[02:14] <daftykins> definitely comes in handy having one of each at times though, when those situations arise that you can only think of a solution on another platform
[02:14] <ball> Hopefully catch you tomorrow.
[02:14] <daftykins> take care \o
[02:14] <ball> Goodnight
[04:15] <diddledan_> "I'm new here, and I keep hearing about some fella called Jake Weary. Can anyone tell me what department he works in?"
[04:15] <daftykins> :D
[04:15] <daftykins> please say that happened for real
[04:15] <diddledan_> lol
[04:16] <daftykins> lemme tell you a tale of how dumb i've been for the last 4 years
[04:17] <daftykins> i picked up some jeans from a shop in Miami Beach back in 2012 but i found them pretty weird 'cause they had this lump sewn in under the denim just above the left hand pocket
[04:17] <daftykins> i picked up some jeans from a shop in Miami Beach back in 2012 but i found them pretty weird 'cause they had this lump sewn in under the denim just above the left hand pocket
[04:17] <daftykins> oops
[04:18] <diddledan_> up button next to the enterkey? it is on this keyboard too
[04:18] <daftykins> 4 years later, i realise that's not stitching at the top by the belt... it's the opening to another pocket i didn't know about :|
[04:18] <diddledan_> haha
[04:18] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gheyq1tnfpaewci/AAAi8kpygRsuxJbclVMbA2BDa?dl=0
[04:18] <daftykins> :|
[04:18] <diddledan_> was there anything you'd previously lost inside?
[04:18] <daftykins> nah i was just cursoring back in irssi to the lines typed and failed hard
[04:19] <diddledan_> it is well hidden
[04:19] <daftykins> someone tells me the above is a pumice stone the jeans would've been stonewashed with :D
[04:19] <daftykins> so newp they were there from the beginning
[07:08] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:08] <daftykins> g'day \o
[07:12] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:13] <brobostigon> morning daftykins qnd SuperMatt
[07:13] <popey> Morning
[07:14] <daftykins> this morning, i'm watching a man attempt to slay a dragon!
[07:16] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:09] <davmor2> Good Morning
[08:11] <popey> yo
[08:22] <davmor2> popey: just the man, if you open music app and play an album does the album art go off the screen slightly in portrait mode?
[08:24] <popey> davmor2: which device?
[08:25] <davmor2> popey: the one you don't have, and any you do
[08:25] <popey> wat
[08:25] <popey> there's a lot I don't have
[08:25] <popey> I only have a bq e4.5
[08:26] <davmor2> popey: meh
[09:02] <Guest50895> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Tell a Story Day! 😃  🕮
[09:03]  * Guest50895 grumbles
[09:04]  * diplo tells a story of JamesTait loosing his username overnight :P
[09:06] <JamesTait> It's because I upgraded to Xenial on Sunday night, which brought with it an upgrade to a version of irssi that support SASL auth, so my SASL auth script is now not loaded because it clashes with the built-in support.
[09:08] <JamesTait> I'm sure it's an easy fix, when I get around to searching for it.
[09:12] <Myrtti> /help network
[09:12] <Myrtti> only bit I needed to change
[09:18]  * diplo having to fix php apps to work with php7 :/
[09:18] <diplo> arg!
[09:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVbQo3IOC_A
[10:06]  * JamesTait chuckles @ davmor2 
[10:30]  * diplo is trying lxc now instead, hope I don't break anything
[10:47] <diplo> Got one up and running now, trying a different version next, then a different OS
[10:48] <diplo> Anyone else use it in here ?
[10:57] <moreati> morning all, what script/program/$thing generates the _official_ live 16.04 .iso files? I'm creating a custom image, and the various wiki pages on this still refer to e.g. 8.04
[11:00] <MooDoo> :)
[11:03] <brobostigon> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD
[11:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: first song I could think of that had story telling in it :)
[11:11] <davmor2> JamesTait: the other would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1WT8VEZxk
[11:13] <moreati> brobostigon: is that a random wiki page you found on the topic of cusomtising CDs, or _the_ instructions followed by whoever creates the official signed-by-canonical isos?
[11:15] <brobostigon> moreati: i did a search on how to create debian like cd images, of which ubuntu cd images are as well, being based on debian.
[11:15] <moreati> brobostigon: I've gone through that step already, thank you
[11:16] <brobostigon> ok, yw.
[11:45] <popey> moreati: i dont think the process is super well documented
[12:00] <foobarry>  whats the best font for a CV? for both pdf or printed
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> comic sans... :-P
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> but only for marketing jobs as those guys are crazy
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/12/fonts-to-use-on-resume_n_7562714.html
[12:04] <foobarry> my kerning seems all screwed up
[12:12] <popey> Ubuntu font
[12:12] <popey> Friend of mine used Ubuntu font on his CV. Got the job.
[12:12] <Myrtti> :-D
[12:12] <zmoylan-pi> would that work at microsoft? :-)
[12:13] <moreati> popey: ok, ty. I'll try to muddle through
[12:13] <popey> a few options exist
[12:13] <popey> live-build is one I have used
[12:14] <popey> http://pinguyos.com/2015/09/pinguy-builder-an-app-to-backupremix-buntu/ is another - not tried that
[12:44] <MooDoo> https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/backless-child-booster-seats-to-be-banned-this-year for all you booster seat mums and dads
[13:05] <diplo> Both mine over 125 and one over 135, so not to worried here, I do see their point but it became a logistical nightmare, 3 kids under 135cm and you wouldn't fit all the seats in the back
[13:06] <diplo> ah right at the bottom, if you already own one you can carry on sing it
[13:06] <diplo> How they'll prove / enforce that is beyond me :)
[13:16] <MooDoo> my lad is 7 and is too tall for a booster
[13:19] <diplo> yeah my 7 year old is just about there, my 9 year old is nigh on 5 foot!
[13:26] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah my 7 year old is hitting 5 ft
[13:26] <MooDoo> diplo: no idea where he gets it from lol
[13:27] <DJones> Sheesh, my 8.5 year old is only 22 inches, could be because he's a dog though
[13:27] <davmor2> MooDoo: blame his Mom
[13:27] <DJones> And no doubt better behaved that a 5ft tall 7 year old child
[13:28] <MooDoo> davmor2: you mean mum? ;) DJones yeah :) lol
[13:28] <MooDoo> I blame the tall dad lol
[13:29]  * DJones wonders how tall the milkman was? :)
[13:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: No really any one would think you were tall you lanky muppet
[13:30] <DJones> We used to have a postman that had 13 kids
[13:30] <DJones> to different mothers
[13:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: nah i'm a short arse really :)
[13:32] <DJones> ugh, blurred vision
[13:36] <diplo> yeah it sucks a bit, my eldest is in 14 year old clothes now
[13:37] <MooDoo> diplo: it does suck when the dr say my lad could potentially reach 7ft
[13:40] <DJones> MooDoo: How tall are you and the rest of the family, my wife's cousin is around 6ft 4in and skinny as a butchers pencil, but she has a similar sized father and a mother that just about gets to 5ft
[13:40] <diplo> hahah MooDoo :P
[13:41] <MooDoo> DJones: my dad is 6'1 I'm 6'6 misses is about 5'6
[13:42] <DJones> Sounds similar to the cousins family, my wife is around 5ft 8" with a 6ft parents, thankfully just a bit shorter than me (apart from the bit where she can nick my clothes and they fit her AND NO, I haven't tried her clothes to see if they'll fit)
[13:43] <MooDoo> lol
[13:44] <DJones> T-Shirts, track suit bottoms....all go  missing
[13:49] <knightwise> hey everyone
[13:52] <diddledan_> moo
[13:53] <knightwise> hey diddledan_
[13:53] <knightwise> how you doing today
[13:53] <diddledan_> I'm good thanks
[13:55]  * knightwise is checking out Trello
[13:57] <knightwise> thinking of using it for my company and for some of my clients.
[14:01] <davmor2> knightwise: 'owdo
[14:02] <MooDoo> I use trello :D
[14:03] <MooDoo> well occasionally :)
[14:13] <knightwise> MooDoo: you pleased with it ?
[14:13] <knightwise> i think the tool can work for us , but i'm not entirely sure how to organise my processes
[14:16] <davmor2> knightwise: I use it daily it's great, Break the lanes down sensibly and you'll find that it will work for you, Normal layout is Backlog all the things that need to be done, In Progress things being done and Done things that are completed as a minimum
[14:16] <davmor2> but obviously you can add more lanes as needed
[19:12] <webpigeon> speaking of project management boardy things, taiga is also a thing: https://tree.taiga.io/
[19:12] <webpigeon> it's FOSS (based on django) so you can run it on your own kit at well if you wanted to
[20:02] <gpd> any reports of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf messing up / missing?
[20:02] <gpd> just updated 15.10 to 16.04 and apache2 won't start with old conf file and reinstall doesn't replace a new conf
[20:03] <gpd> failing line is IncludeOptional mods-enabled/*.load
[20:08] <gpd> looks like it is php5 module failing - change to a2enmod php7.0
[20:08] <gpd> fixed
[20:40] <gpd> very quiet here
[20:41] <diddledan_> sshh, it's sleepy time!
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> we're hunting wabbits
[20:42] <gpd> its fix all the breakages after upgrade time... :(
[20:42] <gpd> courier-authdaemon also borked
[20:43] <brmbrmcar> Nae hunting rabbits!
[20:43] <diddledan_> I really don't want to meet a hunting rabbit
[20:43] <zmoylan-pi> no holy hand grenade of antioch?
[20:46] <gpd> right - fixed that - sleep quite tempting. good luck with the wabbits
[20:46] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[20:47]  * brmbrmcar huts zmoylan-pi
[20:48] <brmbrmcar> s/huts/hunts/
[20:48]  * zmoylan-pi engages predator cloak and waits...
[20:49]  * brmbrmcar attacks
[20:49]  * brmbrmcar destroys zmoylan-pi's multiverse
[20:49]  * zmoylan-pi laughs and watches brmbrmcar's thermal image...
[20:50]  * brmbrmcar destroys zmoylan-pi's laughs