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Kilosmorning anton_may dlPhreak paddatrapper superfly inetpro theblazehen and other lurkers06:12
inetprogood mornings06:12
inetprooh and hi Kilos06:12
Kilosholy moly06:13
Kilosyou got it right06:13
* inetpro always gets it right06:13
Kiloshahaha06:13
Kilosdo you have day off today?06:14
mazalMorning oom Kilos , inetpro06:16
Kiloshi mazal 06:16
mazalHas the ubuntu-za membership always been just 1 year ?06:18
mazalSee mine expired again06:18
Kilosyes06:18
mazalhmm...could have sworn it was longer06:19
superflyKilos: you're up way too early on a public holiday 06:21
Kilosoops sorry06:21
mazalbtw oom , would have been here last night , but power went off :(06:22
Kilosai!06:22
mazalMorning superfly06:22
superflyKilos: you're supposed to sleep in. 06:22
superflyHi mazal, so are you. Unless you have kids. 06:22
Kilosnature calls reularly in the mornings superfly 06:22
Kilosim a creature of habit , thats why i battle when things change06:23
superflyKilos: I know, but you can still go back to bed after making a wee06:23
Kiloslike using unity after getting used to kde06:23
Kiloseverything is on the wrong side06:24
Kilosnono breakfast is also a same time thing06:24
Kilosoh inetpro 06:24
mazalsuperfly, I was in bed before 9pm already. So was up at 1:30 and again at 5:30 :P06:24
mazalSponsored by power failure06:25
Kilosyou went missing last night so you are next months chair06:25
superflymazal: you're like a little kid! 06:25
Kiloshaha06:25
Kiloshe is ill superfly 06:25
Kiloscompulsive buyers syndrome06:25
mazalissie !06:25
Kiloshaha06:26
mazalI didn't buy anything yesterday06:26
Kilosthats why you are ill06:26
Kiloshi pavlushka 06:26
mazalIf I wasn't on stand-by today a little "accident" might have happened today though06:26
pavlushkayes Kilos , how are you?06:27
Kilosgood ty and you06:27
Kilosahaha06:27
Kilosinetpro did you find out why TZ is always upgrading06:47
Kilosmust be security stuffs06:47
inetproKilos: TZ changes happen because of DST changes06:56
inetprooh and I didn't agree to chair anything06:56
Kilosoh ok then06:56
Kiloswe asked you and you didnt say you couldnt so we took that as accepting06:57
Kiloschesedo has an exm06:57
Kilosexam06:57
inetproI gave up when I kept getting disconnected06:58
Kiloswe fogrive you06:58
Kilosforgive06:58
Kilosand to show we werent upset we even handed the chair back to you06:59
* inetpro will read the minutes one day when there's nothing else to do06:59
Kiloslol06:59
Kilosyou at work?06:59
* inetpro is always at work06:59
Kilosnonono man06:59
Kilosreal work06:59
Kilosaway from home at office work07:00
inetprowhat's the difference?07:02
Kiloswell 07:02
Kilosat office tea times are scheduled07:02
Kiloshome work is anytime is coffee time07:02
mazalUgh , latency is killing me :(07:15
theblazehenhey Kilos07:16
Kiloshows theblazehen today07:16
mazalLo theblazehen07:16
theblazehenhey mazal. 475 ms rtt to you from me it seems. Ouch07:17
mazalWhen I do installs or updates in cli there's about 3 to 4 seconds delay before something start to happen. Mobile is crap here07:17
mazalTried some mc with friends , sompletely unplayable07:18
Kilosi thought your adsl was fixed07:19
mazalI cancelled it mos oom , they fixed it 1 moths after I put cancellation in , then the very next day cancellations department woke up and did the cancellation07:19
Kiloslol07:20
mazalToo many cable issues here and too long downtime. Cable not an option anymore07:20
mazalEver sinve they retrenched the people who can work the work simply don't get done07:21
mazalsince*07:21
* mazal ponders07:22
Kilosi wonder what were the pros issues last night07:23
mazalWith mc a bust I should prob go abuse the 36007:23
Kilosalso was very unstable connection07:23
mazalBetween telscum and escum I am lucky if I get through just 1 day without issues07:25
Kiloshi Wolfeyes 07:31
Wolfeyeshey Kilos07:38
Kilosmornin kmf 08:15
kmfmorning Kilos08:15
paddatrapperMorning everyone08:23
Kiloshowdy toad killer08:23
paddatrapperHow you doing Kilos?08:24
Kiloswell ty lad , and you?08:24
paddatrapperI'm good. Enjoying blobbing for a bit before I need to start getting stuff done08:25
Kiloslol08:25
paddatrappermazal: I feel your pain - I've had bad Telkom Internet for years that they finally fixed the other day. Turned out to be a corroded connector in the junction box... Been complaining since about 2010 to them08:28
Kilosai!08:28
superflyHey paddatrapper 08:32
paddatrapperHey superfly08:32
superflySup kmf08:32
paddatrapperHow things?08:33
superflyCan't complain, got to (sort of) sleep in this morning 08:33
paddatrapperAlways nice08:34
nlsthznhey all08:34
superflyHey nlsthzn 08:34
nlsthznsuperfly, alo, how are you? all well I hope?08:34
superflypaddatrapper: I'm sure tumbleweed would love to have you on the video team 08:34
superflynlsthzn: all good, and yours? 08:35
superflynlsthzn: How's baby bear? 08:35
paddatrappersuperfly: yeah thanks. I spoke to him last night - finding quotes for hiring various things sound and video related08:36
superflyAwesome 08:36
nlsthzngood enough (despite the oil price trying to wrangle away all the jobs here)... oh and the baby bear is growing into a healthy toddler bear thanks :)08:36
superflynlsthzn: yeah, same with the Princess on this side 08:37
Kiloshi nlsthzn 08:37
paddatrapperHey nlsthzn08:37
nlsthznglad to hear superfly 08:39
nlsthznalo uncle Kilos , paddatrapper 08:39
mazalSome useless info feedback:08:39
mazalFirst gaming testing begun on K 16.04 ( minecraft )08:39
mazalDid not install oracle java and using build-in open JDK 808:40
mazalNo issues08:40
mazalexcellent performance and stability08:40
Kilosgood08:40
mazalThe more intensive Steam stuff I plan on starting this afternoon ( telscum and escum permitting )08:40
mazalToughest of them all will be BL 208:42
mazalIs by far the strongest / biggest game I have that is on Linux08:42
mazalMaybe I must do it now...hmmmm08:42
Kiloslol08:42
Kilosdecisions decisions08:43
mazalbut....but....I want to finish my railroad in mc :P08:43
Kiloswhat  did fly say last night08:43
nlsthznmazal, I have had an issue launching planetary annihilation, sound issue... launching steam with some parameters fixes it.  annoying08:44
nlsthzndon't think the issue is only on 16.04 however08:45
mazalnlsthzn, never played that before08:45
nlsthznit is a kickstarter game that didn't live up to the hype08:45
nlsthznwhich is usual08:45
mazalok08:45
nlsthznand smite via wine not installing anymore, but that is because of a change to the launcher, not the distro it seems :/08:46
nlsthznsilly devs :p08:46
nlsthznwriting software for windows that makes life difficult on linux 08:46
Kilosouch08:47
mazalOk dumb question for the day: How do I see what filesystem an external is ? Without going to gparted08:48
mazaloho , steam is not in the repo's anymore , lemme check with synaptic08:50
nlsthznsteam is in the repo's08:51
superflymazal: mount 08:51
mazalBoth synaptic and software centre doesn't show it for me nlsthzn08:51
mazalta superfly08:51
nlsthznweird... well I always install with apt08:51
nlsthznand that worked08:52
mazalpackage name just steam ?08:52
superflymazal: you need to go to Steam to get it 08:52
mazalOn my way now08:53
mazalWonder why they removed it from repo's though08:53
superflySo many games, so little time. I've been playing TinyKeep recently 08:53
superflymazal: I've never found it in the repos08:54
nlsthznsudo apt-get install steam08:55
nlsthzntry it first >.<08:55
nlsthznsave yourself a lot of headache08:55
mazalsuperfly, I did with 14.0408:55
mazalnlsthzn, copy that08:55
nlsthznthe new software centre based on the gnome-software will not show many apps... there is a certain file or flag that it needs where it pulls the info from.  not all packages has this.  but synaptic should show it :/08:56
mazalInteresting , how does apt see it and synaptic not08:57
* nlsthzn installs synaptic to check it out08:57
superflyI haven't used any software centre thing in years 08:57
superflynlsthzn: next time, use "apt" 08:57
mazalI do when I can't remember the package name08:58
superflymuch nicer than apt-get / apt-cache08:58
nlsthznwell my synaptic shows it (steam:i386) might be because I have it installed08:58
mazalThe ones I remember I also cli08:58
mazalWill see what mine shows after install , installing with apt now08:58
nlsthznsuperfly, I have actually been using apt a lot these days... but muscle memory still goes apt-get :p08:58
superflymazal: apt search <part of package name>08:58
paddatrapperAlias it nlsthzn08:59
mazalinstalled , let's go see what says synaptic08:59
nlsthzn:) but both work fine for me.. I always tab-complete from about the second letter of what I am installing so I always have a list08:59
nlsthznpaddatrapper, that sounds like a sensible thing to do ... but I am lazy09:00
mazalYep steam there now09:00
mazalI wonder what other software I miss that way and think it's not there09:00
paddatrappernlsthzn: Lol ja I get that!09:00
nlsthzn:)09:01
mazalugh , 245mb update , sb time09:01
nlsthznyup steam is brutal in that regard09:01
mazalnlsthzn, ever used a controller on Linux ? Would it work ?09:07
nlsthznI have a logitech gamepad f510 and it works as expected09:08
mazalOn Winbloze I used a wired 360 controller , prefer it to kb and mouse09:08
nlsthzn360 controller will also work09:08
mazalhmmm......09:09
mazalThis is gonna make trouble09:09
nlsthznmight need an additional app however09:09
mazalOom Kilos , I might buy some more games lol09:09
nlsthzn:)09:09
nlsthznmazal, I have a crap ton of linux games from humble sales that I am not using as they are double etc... what genre are u interested in and I will send you a key?09:10
mazalfps , strategy , action adventure , rpg , action rpg09:10
mazaland some platformers , but not too keen on the platformers09:11
nlsthznlol09:11
nlsthznso games in general09:11
nlsthznwell I see that I have a planetary annihilation key extra... pity I can't export this list :09:12
nlsthzn:/09:12
nlsthznwhat is your fave genre mazal ?09:13
mazalsjoe09:13
mazalAll of them lol09:13
mazalI'm a heavy gamer09:13
nlsthznthen you need many keys09:13
mazalOk steam installed , painless and no issues. According to my library I have 11 games that is Linux supported , nice :)09:14
mazalNow I needs to remember how to install from my backup , haven't done that in more than a year :P09:14
Kilosai! die kindera09:15
Kiloskinders09:15
mazalWat oom ?09:15
Kilosspeel speel speel. haal nog geld uit en speel meer09:15
Kilosai!09:15
Kilosohi EvilDMP you still around09:16
mazalHey I am working on Ubuntu's rep here. If I can get gamers over it's more ppl for Ubuntu :)09:16
EvilDMPhello Kilos 09:16
Kilosany excuse is better than none mazal 09:17
mazalissie09:17
Kiloshaha09:17
Kiloswe got sirens screaminghere09:17
Kilossomeone been shot again09:18
mazalOk install from backup is running. Gonna start with BL2 since it is a very big strong game and good test09:21
mazalAi steam is nice , pitty it's platform is so expensive :(09:22
superflymazal: BL2?09:22
mazalBorderlands 209:22
superflyaaahhh09:22
mazalKnow it ?09:22
superflymazal: Humble Bundles++09:22
mazalI mean the hardware is expesive09:23
mazalexpensive*09:23
superflyknow of it, as it were, haven't bought it, haven't played it09:23
mazalAwesome game. One of my all time favourites. FPS meats RPG09:23
mazalHave it on PC , PS3 and PS4 :)09:24
paddatrapperBL2 is great fun. Wish I had more time to play it09:26
* nlsthzn just tried awesomenaughts again... got my backside handed to me >.<09:29
superflyI tend to play the puzzle games, they're the only ones I have a chance against09:36
inetproclimagic tip: <Ctrl-w> # Remove the previous word on the command line (before the cursor). This is highly useful when reusing old commands.09:46
superflyinetpro: I must remember that09:54
nlsthznsuperfly, some puzzle games are ok... but often they just lead to frustration :;10:01
nlsthzn:p10:01
superflynlsthzn: I get more frustration out of the bigger games10:13
nlsthznI guess it depends on the game... some can be very frustrating10:13
nlsthznbut I like indie games :)10:13
* nlsthzn testing obs and streaming to twitch tv10:15
nlsthznreally working well in 16.0410:15
magespawngood day all10:21
Kiloshi magespawn 10:23
Wolfeyeshey magespawn and bye lol10:29
inetprouh oh! 10:35
inetprowho ran into a power pole again? 10:36
inetpropower failure here for almost 30 minutes now 10:36
inetprooh Kilos, and I am at home 10:37
Kiloslol10:37
inetprotime to sit back and relax, can't work with no power 10:38
nlsthzn+110:39
nlsthzncan't power without work10:39
Kiloshi bushtech 10:55
Kilosyou missed our meeting last night10:55
Kilosi go check up on sheep10:56
bushtechhi Kilos, sorry, bit busy11:00
bushtechyou well?11:00
inetproat least power came back again as we sit down for lunch, with no coffee... wonder what happened11:09
inetprowb Wolfeyes11:10
Wolfeyesty inetpro11:11
bushtechinetpro: some neighbours chopping cables again?11:11
inetprobushtech: with power back so soon? I doubt11:12
bushtechlol, maybe they cut themselves off as well11:13
inetprohaha, ja maybe11:13
* inetpro really enjoying 'My Data Manager' to for checking data usage on Android devices11:21
inetproso much more useful when you can drill down to week, day or hour11:22
bushtechinetpro: does it show which apps are sucking data?11:23
inetprobushtech: yep11:23
inetprobushtech: see https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm&hl=en11:23
bushtechgreat, will check it out 11:23
bushtechthanks11:23
inetproonly thing that needs a bit of a rethink is the shared plan option11:24
inetprodoesn't really work when you don't have a single data account for multiple devices11:25
inetprooh and you can not use that for wifi at all 11:25
inetprowould be awesome if one could use it for wifi11:25
inetprobushtech: I do like the alarm options for wifi11:26
inetproyou can set three alarms, two for setting your cummalative usage for the month and one for daily usage11:27
inetprooh and the alrms for data usage limits are just as nice11:28
inetproand there goes our power again 11:30
Kilosai!11:36
bushtechEish!11:37
inetproKilos, how can I check whether my alternator in the car is charging without a multimeter? 11:54
nlsthzninetpro, drive long enough and if the battery is dead you know >.>12:06
kayiseHello everyone12:06
kayiseDoes anyone know where I can get Ubuntu stickers in SA?12:07
Kiloshi kayise 12:07
Kilosprint your own12:07
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za12:07
kayiseI'm looking for an ubuntu sticker to cover the apple logo on my machine12:07
Kiloslol12:07
Kiloslemme find a link12:07
kayiseyeah12:07
kayiselol12:07
=== Kilos is now known as google
googleai!12:08
kayisei want to make sure people know I'm using Ubuntu not MAC12:08
=== google is now known as Kilos
bushtechdoes that make you koogle?12:08
KilosMaaz googlr spread ubuntu12:08
MaazKilos: What?12:08
Kilosai!12:08
KilosMaaz google spread ubuntu12:09
MaazKilos: "Home | spreadubuntu" http://spreadubuntu.org/ :: "Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- spread" http://packages.ubuntu.com/spread :: "The Spread Toolkit - Download" http://www.spread.org/download.html :: "Ubuntu Unity Spread for 14.04 - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuqn19Fq5i0 :: "Task switching in Ubuntu, and a introduction to 'The Spread ..."12:09
Maazhttps://design.canonical.com/2012/03/task-switching-in-ubuntu-and-a-introduction-to-the-sp…12:09
Kilostop link kayise 12:09
Kilosyou dhould be able to get something there12:09
Kiloss/dhould/should12:10
Kilosmaybe someone has stickers from 14.04 release12:11
nlsthznit is possible to order stickers from canonical store... they don't cost to much but the shipping costs are high12:11
Kilosand postage is dicey12:12
Kiloskayise where are you12:12
kayiseokay thanks for the link12:14
kayiseI think printing is way to go then12:14
Kilosi think you can download images from there and print your own12:14
Kilosdefiniteley the cheapest way imo12:14
kayiseya i had a look at the ones from canonical store, wasnt sure about shipping. so if you say costs are high, then might as well go with the print route12:16
kayisehttp://spreadubuntu.org/files/stickers_tux_10.04_12.04_es.png 12:16
Kiloswhere are you kayise maybe someone close has leftovers12:16
kayisei'm in Joburg12:17
Kilosif you dont come right with printing ill try get hold of the contact in jozi and let you know12:18
kayiseokay thanks bud12:18
Kilosyou will find me here most of every day12:19
Kilosyou can also hang out here 24/712:19
Kilosoh btw how did you find us12:19
Kilosnlsthzn has maias membership expired?12:20
kayisedo you know if anyone in Cape Town has some stickers left over, because I'll be in CT in May for a weekend12:20
Kilosthe lady im asking about is there12:20
Kilossuperfly have you any?12:20
Kiloswe have many members in CT12:21
superflyKilos: I don't really. I was looking for my own the other day and can't find them12:21
Kilosoh my12:21
Kiloshopefully maia still has12:22
nlsthznKilos, ubuntu-membership uncle Kilos ?12:22
Kilosyes nlsthzn 12:22
Kilosplease12:22
nlsthznafaik it doesn't ever expire12:22
Kilosevery 2 years12:22
Kilosand peeps miss the email reminders12:22
Kiloswhy arent you showing yours12:23
Kiloshmm...12:23
kayisehow i found this channel: 1) first searched in google for "ubuntu stickers south africa" 2) Then this link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2781-ubuntu-trusty-release-party-in-randburg/ came up 3) Then from there I found this link http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/12:23
Kilosaha12:24
superflykayise: impressive12:24
Kilosthis is the ZA LoCo help channel12:24
kayise@superfly lol12:24
* nlsthzn asked to have his cloak removed after incident... don't want to associate to closely with ubuntu...12:24
Kilosok nlsthzn 12:24
Kilossee superfly our advertising is poor12:25
superflyKilos: we have advertising?12:25
kayiseya i didnt know about this channel and I've using Ubuntu since 200912:25
Kilosnope thats why it is so poor12:25
superflyI'm closing IRC now, I need to concentrate on some hairy code, I'll be back later.12:26
kayiseso what is a LoCo?12:26
Kiloslocal community12:26
kayiseahh okay12:26
Kiloshttp://loco.ubuntu.com/12:27
kayisedo you guys have meetups and stuff?12:28
kayisefor example anything planned for 16.04 LTS?12:28
Kiloswe try yes but everyone is so busy nowadays12:28
kayiseoh i see12:28
Kiloshopefully we will have some release parties when the flash disks arrive12:28
kayisewhat are the flash disks? also where are they arriving from? Canonical??12:30
Kiloswe have a meeting every month here as well at 8.30 pm on the 4th tuesday of the month12:30
Kilosyes we order from canonical, they arent supplying dvds anymore12:30
Kiloshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/buy-ubuntu-16-04-usb-official12:32
Kilos8g sticks12:32
kayiseoh i see, I must say the branded ubuntu usb stick looks awesome.12:34
Kilosyeah12:35
Kiloswith luck we will get supplies for each region12:36
Kilosand maybe some stickers as well12:36
kayiseokay cool, do you know what the ETA on these are? 12:37
Kilosthe biggest time snags come with customs12:38
Kilosso maybe a month or more12:38
kayiseiesh customs12:38
Kilosyeah12:38
Kiloslast batch of dvds took weeks to clear12:39
kayisei think I'll pursue the print option for now, also would be nice to know how printing process works, might come in handy for other future projects.12:40
Kilosoh kayise join our mailing list and launchpad and then mail the list and ask if anyone in jozi has any stickers left over12:41
Kiloshttps://ubuntu-za.org12:41
kayisecool I've joined the mailing list, thanks12:42
Kilosyou welcome12:43
Kilosjoin launchpad as well then you are a ZA member12:43
Kiloshi Sxuza 12:46
Kilosi can never find the LP link for za12:50
Sxuzahey Kilos  :)12:51
Kilosinetpro dont you want to put it back in the topic12:51
Sxuzaif im Sop for another channel somewhere , how do i find out how many people are on the ops list?12:51
Sxuzainfact everyone that is serviced by chanserv 12:51
Kilosask on #freenode12:52
Sxuzaok 12:52
Kiloswhat is a Sop anyway12:52
SxuzaSuper op12:52
Kilosah12:52
Sxuzawhen u can add and delete people and some other servicees for that channel 12:53
chesedoHello all12:53
Sxuzahey chesedo 12:53
Kilosfreenode has changed, you first query an op to allow you to speak12:53
Kiloshi chesedo 12:53
Kiloswhats out LP link12:53
chesedoinetpro: sorry for having to put you on as chair without conce12:54
chesedo*consent12:54
Kilosanother new peson today been on buntu since 2009 and only just found us today12:55
Kilosi think pro is away due to power cut12:55
Kiloshi zulucoda 12:58
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za12:58
Kiloskayise https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za12:58
zulucodaHi Kilos, actually its me Kayise.12:59
Kiloshaha12:59
zulucodalet close the kayise chat12:59
Kilossawubona13:00
zulucodayebo baba, ninjani la eUbunu-za channel?13:01
Kiloslol you got me there i know only a few zulu words13:01
Kilosspent many years farming in natal13:02
zulucodahehe13:02
Kilosdid you get the link to join launchpad13:02
Kilosthe pro will understand better, he grew up there13:04
zulucodayeah joined launchpad as well https://launchpad.net/~muzi-zulucoda13:05
Kiloscool13:05
zulucodaat least I know where to find other local Ubuntu peeps now. 13:06
Kilosgood13:06
zulucoda@kilos, so when did you make the transition from Win$ to Ubuntu?13:07
Kilos200813:08
zulucodaokay that was the Vista period13:08
zulucodalol13:09
Kilostried 8.04 and couldnt get mobile to work and then been going since 8.1013:09
Kilosi have never seen vista13:09
zulucodaokay lol13:09
Kilosgot killed on xp with virii etc so hunted for an alternative13:10
Kilosbut then i was still learning about pcs as well13:10
zulucodawhats virii?13:10
Kilosviruses13:11
zulucodaoh i see13:11
Kilosone virus many virii13:11
Kilosi hope13:11
Kiloshehe13:11
zulucodaokay13:11
SxuzaLeceister must win the league this weekend 13:11
SxuzaLeceister must win the league this weekend 13:12
SxuzaLeceister must win the league this weekend 13:12
Sxuzau guys need to say something 13:12
Sxuzaagree of disAgree 13:12
Sxuzalol13:12
Kiloshow can you get so excited about foreign soccer teams13:12
SxuzaPirates this side are doing well 13:13
Sxuzaim all sorted 13:13
Sxuzawhat else u wanna say Kilos  ?13:13
Sxuza<-- think theyre gonna take the Nedbank 13:13
Kilosi follow the rugby and cricket13:13
Sxuzaure a sisi13:13
Kilosyes13:13
SxuzaSoccer is a real man's sport13:13
Kilosrugby is a sissy sport13:13
Sxuzaits the best played sport13:13
zulucodaI'm okay with Leceister winning as long as its not ManU , Arsenal ManCity13:14
Kilosmost skillfull feet yeah13:14
* Sxuza sets mode +o zulucoda 13:14
Sxuzaure the man 13:14
zulucodaI appreciate both Soccer and Rugby13:15
SxuzaKilos : the people that watch rugby and soccer ....... just take a moment and do the maths 13:15
Sxuzai love Rugby too13:15
zulucodaor tho i like watching Rugby more 13:15
Sxuzanot not as much as Soccer 13:15
Sxuzazulucoda : NOOOOOO!13:15
Kilosrugby is growing in za13:15
zulucodaMy rugby team are the Lions, best team in SA at the moment13:15
Sxuza<-- Sharks 13:16
Sxuzabefore there was EP , theyre the closest to my area13:16
Sxuza<-- East London 13:16
Kilosim a sharks fan of course, but lions and stormers are actually playing better this year13:16
mazalnlsthzn, Kilos, that test did not go well13:16
mazalMassive FPS stuttering and freezing13:17
Kiloswhat mazal 13:17
bushtechthe guys with skillful feet are good soccer players but the ones who combine that with skillful hands are the great ones13:17
nlsthznmazal, borderlands 2?13:17
mazalyeah13:17
SxuzaKilos : atlesat we agree on something 13:17
nlsthznati or nvidia?13:17
Sxuzaand yes thyre not the best team out there currently13:17
mazalnvidia GTX 760 4gig13:17
nlsthznlatest driver installed/13:17
nlsthzn?13:17
mazalYep13:17
nlsthznstrange... shouldn't have any issues :/13:18
mazalThe proprietry one. Think it's 361 if memory serves13:18
SxuzaIm loyal to Chelsea , thats why i need Leceister to take the League13:18
nlsthznmazal, you could also add the graphics ppa, there are even more drivers there... it happens from time to time that a specific driver has issues with specific software...13:18
Sxuzabushtech : i cannot , and will not ever turn a blind eye to what youre saying 13:19
zulucodaiesh I'm a Liverpool man 13:19
SxuzaNoted.13:19
mazalnlsthzn, I remember reading about that at one stage. It's mos a dedicated graphics driver ppa ?13:19
nlsthznmazal, yup...13:19
Sxuzaand it is also true, that there's alot of brains needed in Rugby than in Soccer 13:20
Sxuzasame goes for the Refs 13:20
mazalShees now where did I put that article ?13:20
Sxuzai think Rugby Referrees are very sharp13:20
mazalThink it was in one of the rss feeds13:20
Sxuzaand wiiiiiide awake13:20
Sxuzabut the flow of the game is better with Soccer , thats why its the best followed Sport13:20
zulucodaya soccer flows well and also Ref cant sway the game in soccer13:21
Sxuzaya mfethu yinyani leyo13:22
zulucodabut Rugby Refs can determine how the game flows13:22
mazalnlsthzn, this is the one yes ? https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa13:22
* Sxuza thinks zulucoda knows his sport 13:22
nlsthznmazal, yup13:23
Kilosguys when others are busy helping with pc issues sit back a while till they have sorted it13:23
* nlsthzn just tried shadow warrior... gfx look amazing and fps fine... sound however >.<13:23
zulucoda@Sxuza thanks man. Went to an all boys school so sport was drilled into us and we had play sport so ya.13:23
SxuzaKilos : are u refering to the people that are chatting about Soccer ?13:24
Kilosanything off pc topics lads13:24
zulucodasorry guys13:24
Sxuzao ok.13:24
Kilosi chat sport as well but pc issues come first13:24
* nlsthzn is sure that the chatter is low enough not to be an issue...13:24
mazalYeah not bothering me either13:25
mazalnlsthzn, looks like 364 is the latest , mine is 361 , gonna try that13:25
Kilosnot serious Sxuza zulucoda 13:25
nlsthznchat away guys :) 13:26
Sxuzawas actully withdrawn there  for a moment Kilos 13:26
Sxuzabut wiff respect , i wanted to make sure i comply13:26
Sxuza:)13:26
nlsthznworth a try mazal ... but can also check google if there are any known issues...13:26
Kilosim not fighting im just saying we must consider pcs issues as priority13:27
mazalThis would be the oackage name for apt ? nvidia-graphics-drivers-36413:27
Sxuzai got that Kilos  :)13:27
Sxuzaand that goes with out qtn , 13:27
Kilos:D13:27
nlsthznmazal, what you can do is add the repo. apt update then run the drivers application 13:29
nlsthznit will list all of the available drivers13:30
mazalppa not working13:30
nlsthznwhat command you use?13:30
mazalhttps://bin.snyman.info/mmmvskn713:30
mazalI added it to sources list13:30
nlsthznsudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa13:31
nlsthznalso need to sudo apt update after adding13:31
nlsthznso try updating first13:31
mazalThat error came up when updating13:31
nlsthznhmmm...13:32
mazalWill try the other route now ( add-apt13:32
nlsthznwonder why the key isn't working13:32
nlsthznwhen using apt it gets and verifies the key for me13:32
nlsthznworks fine forme13:33
nlsthznworks on my machine (TM)13:33
nlsthzn:p13:33
mazalWhen using add-apt didn't get errors , running update now13:34
mazalAnd update ran through without error either. So that seems to be to do with manual adding it to sources.list13:34
mazalNow just go to restricted drivers and see what it shows13:35
nlsthznyup13:35
nlsthznshould have a list..13:35
nlsthznif you choose something else and your system gets borked I am sorry13:35
nlsthzndrivers are funny things :p13:36
mazalAfter yesterday at work I know how to easily purge nvidia drivers without a DE hehehe13:36
mazalGetting the same as last week now , Kubuntu just hanging there at " collecting information about your system "13:37
mazalThat's when I go into drivers13:37
mazalDid the same thing just after I installed and eventually after trying many times it showed something13:38
nlsthznah yes13:38
nlsthznmazal, that is a bug in KDE13:38
nlsthznkubuntu I mean13:38
nlsthznwill have to use terminal13:38
* nlsthzn on unity cause it sucks less than kde at the moment13:38
mazalI dunno how to do it in terminal , and don't see directions on site13:40
nlsthznsudo apt install nvidia-36413:41
nlsthznjust start typing nvidia and hit tab and it will show all the choices13:41
mazalthanx13:41
mazalWow ok , didn't know that13:41
nlsthzntab autocomplete will show anything matching your query13:41
nlsthzneven command work... if typing apt-get just type apt- and hit tab and you will get apt-get :p13:42
mazalI use that for filename and folders , didn't know it will quesry package name also13:42
nlsthznah ok...13:42
nlsthznyes works for all \o/13:42
Kilossee nlsthzn you are more than just a pretty face13:43
mazalAfter install will it enable automatically or how to enable it ?13:43
nlsthznreboot13:43
nlsthznwell that is what I do ...13:43
nlsthznbeing linux I am sure there are ways of making it work...13:44
nlsthznKilos, I try uncle Kilos ... not hard... 13:44
Kiloshehe13:44
mazalI see the nvidia settings app at least shows current driver in use , so one will be able to see there13:44
nlsthznwell, give it a go... but I suspect a restart will only really enable the new driver13:45
nlsthznthe nvidia app is perhaps just reading some file to see the version number13:45
* nlsthzn can't find a terminal command to show :/13:48
* nlsthzn fails at internet13:48
mazalYeah I will check after reboot.13:50
mazalStill waiting on the DL though. Feels like I am back on dial-up. Mobile sucks13:50
nlsthznah yes... 33.6 ... *shudder*13:52
nlsthznmax d/l of 4.2kb a second... would have my mind blown when it went above 1kb/s :'(13:53
Kiloseish13:53
mazalAt stages I can't even get a web site open13:53
mazalCurrently coming down at 19k :(13:54
mazalSo called 3G , meh13:54
nlsthzn:/13:56
Kilossomething sick there13:56
* nlsthzn hugs 20mb fiber line13:56
nlsthznwill be what I miss the most of this country... uncapped fast internet13:57
mazalYou lucky.......uhm.....lemme try be polite here.........fish !!!! :)13:57
mazalOk , eventually. Rebooting....hope I see you guys again lol13:58
Kilosmazal run http://www.speedtest.net then use those speeds to complain with13:58
Kilosnet is slower but getting 3mb/s down13:59
Kiloshis is extra bad13:59
nlsthzngl13:59
Kilosi go lock up sheep14:00
mazalOk I'm still here :) Nvidia settings report that I am on 364 now ;) Will test that fps stuttering now14:02
nlsthznsweet14:03
nlsthzntested the sound again in shadow warrior and it is working now14:09
nlsthznsweet14:09
* nlsthzn will be back laterz14:09
nlsthznexit14:09
KilosSxuza zulucoda feel free to kick the ball around now14:14
Kilosill grab it and run for the goal line14:14
mazalhmm...the steam dl is running over 400k14:15
Kilosshhhh14:15
mazalSomething is fishy14:15
mazalBut my ubu stuff dog slow14:15
Kilosyou make things sick14:16
mazalCan't be my signal then , steam would also crawl at 19k then14:16
Kilosyes14:16
magespawnmazal: might be the ubuntu mirror you are using14:20
magespawnthere is also a cli version of speedtest, you can also try mtr against specific ip addresses, record the ouput to a text file14:22
mazalOk the latest drivers didn't help14:31
mazalHi magespawn14:31
Kilosai!14:31
mazalWell at least my budget will be saved lol14:32
Kiloslol14:32
Kilosmazal what are your pc specs apart from the 16g ram you brag about14:32
Kilosand is the ram ddr314:33
magespawnhi mazal 14:38
inetproKilos: how many links do you want me to add in the topic? Remember, there multiple important links on the site... just one link to refer new people to and achieve multiple goals14:39
Kilosi have added it with maaz inetpro ty14:39
Kilosjust need to rmember what to ask14:40
nlsthznmazal, so... any improvements?14:40
KilosMaaz lp address14:40
Maazhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za14:40
inetproone address Kilos, just one address https://ubuntu-za.org/14:40
Kilosi really battle to find how to get there14:40
Kilosno man14:40
Kilosi tried to click those launchpad things and it dont go to where one can join directly14:41
inetproLoCo Links is easy to find man14:41
Kilosthe launchpad stuff goes with the bzr stuff and site stuff14:42
KilosMaaz will remember for me14:42
Kilosso calm down old man14:42
Kilosis your power back14:42
inetproyep, power is back... guys were working on the line here14:43
Kilosqi!14:43
Kiloswhat line?14:43
inetproKilos: power lines in my area14:44
Kilosoh they were14:44
Kiloswe are and were spelt same arent they14:44
Kiloslike were having fun14:44
KilosMaaz define were14:45
MaazKilos: Were \Were\, v. t. & i. To wear. See 3d {Wear}. [Obs.] --Chaucer. [1913 Webster], Were \Were\, n. A weir. See {Weir}. [Obs.] --Chaucer. Sir P. Sidney. [1913 Webster], Were \Were\, v. t. [AS. werian.] To guard; to protect. [Obs.] --Chaucer. [1913 Webster], Were \Were\ (w[~e]r; 277). [AS. w[=ae]re (thou) wast, w[=ae]ron (we, you, they) were, w[=ae]re imp.14:45
Maazsubj. See {Was}.] The imperfect indicative plural, and imperfect subjunctive singular and plu…14:45
Kilosneed to add a modern dictionary14:46
paddatrapperWe're - we are, were - was14:50
Kilosoh yes ty paddatrapper 14:50
Kilosmaybe i should have a bally nap14:52
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nlsthznfreenode acting up again14:56
Kilosyeah14:56
* nlsthzn goes to eat... om nom nom time... got some boerewors made by some safa friends here...14:57
Kilosnice14:57
Kilosenjoy14:57
mazalmaaz tell nlsthzn Nope , no improvement15:04
Maazmazal: Righto, I'll tell nlsthzn on freenode15:04
Kiloshi skokkk 15:04
skokkkello Kilos 15:04
Kilosmazal i asked what pc specs15:04
mazalKilos, it's an I5 , 16gig DDR3 and Geforce GTX 760 4gig DDR5 Vram15:05
mazalIt ran everything well in winbloze15:05
skokkkI'm starting to hate ubuntu with apt breaking the whole time15:05
Kilosok ty15:05
Kilosskokkk whats breaking15:05
skokkkapt-get15:05
mazalI go watch a movie15:05
Kilosuse apt15:05
mazall8tr all15:05
Kilosor aptitude15:05
Kiloscheers mazal \15:06
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Kiloshahaha15:06
mazal-sulkinglol15:06
mazal-sulkingI'm gonna go sit with my PS3 now15:07
Kilossee if there isnt something to speed it up mazal-sulking 15:07
Kiloslike a ssd15:07
mazal-sulkingYes , the PS415:07
Kilosi wonder why they dont use a cpu like that in pcs15:07
Kiloswith lots of ram15:07
Kilosthose things run with min ram15:08
skokkkI'm hating mint even more now :/15:08
Kilosbut like 8 core cpu15:08
Kilosskokk try mate15:08
* skokkk boots mint15:08
skokkkhttp://i.imgur.com/Ex2ZfSz.png15:08
Kiloswhat are all those open pages on the left15:09
skokkkcaja-desktop failing to launch15:09
Kilossjoe15:10
skokkkso it infinite loops till it works15:10
Kiloshas it always done that15:10
skokkkfirst time15:10
Kilossudo touch /forcefsck and reboot15:10
Kilosinetpro has some link that shows extra stuff to make force work better15:11
Kilosboetie15:11
Kiloshelp die mannetjie asb15:11
Kilosskokkk everything up to date and upgraded?15:12
Kilosand how old is your drive15:12
Kilosnot perhaps some bad sectors causing the prob?15:13
Kiloshi kmf did things go well15:18
Kilosoh skokkk did you asnt the mint peeps15:31
Kilosask15:32
Kilosi dont know if they have an irc channel15:32
skokkkno, not yet.. I'm trying to get an ubuntu setup working just for one task :/15:32
* skokkk fires up docker15:33
skokkkaaand docker no work15:33
Kiloseish15:34
skokkkYou don't by any chance have an extra machine running VNC I can use for an hour or so?15:34
Kilosi dont know what vnc is15:35
Kilosi have another machine using 14.04 kde15:35
Kilosyou can teamview to it if you like15:35
skokkkit's fine, using a VPS quickly, will tell you if I need it still15:36
Kilosok15:36
magespawnwhat is the problem skokkk ?15:38
skokkkmagespawn, just getting annoyed with no possible version of anything im doing working15:38
magespawnskokk if you need to test things, AWS does allow a free use service15:40
magespawnsorry skokkk 15:40
skokkkI own a dedi, just set up virtualbox quickly15:41
skokkkproblem is I can't have too much virtualization going on15:41
skokkkI need paravirtualization on a dedi actually15:42
superflyskokkk: did you use docker from the repositories or from docker's site15:42
skokkksuperfly, I've skipped past docker, it's giving me shit now15:42
skokkkvnc > remote desktop > virtualbox > qemu15:46
skokkkyet the sound works :O15:49
nlsthznmazal-sulking, well you will not be getting the same fps with linux than windows in many games as they are not native but actually windows binaries wrapped in basically wine to emulate...15:56
Maaznlsthzn: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell nlsthzn Nope , no improvement" 52 minutes and 7 seconds ago15:56
nlsthznlots of overhead added15:56
nlsthzndrop the settings until you get the fps that is playable it all I can recommend15:57
skokkkKilos, does that offer still stand?16:02
Kilosyessir16:02
Kilosdo you want to teamview to it or quemu16:02
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=== mazal-sulking is now known as mazal
mazalSjoe this 3 year old media server app is still solid :)16:50
Kilosyay you over the sulk16:51
mazalhehehe , ja16:51
mazalfor now16:52
mazalExplain this to me oom16:52
* Kilos listens16:52
mazalWhen my nick has something added my ding works , when it's just as it should be my ding doesn't work ?16:52
Kiloswow16:53
mazalHow is that for strange16:53
Kilosthat only experts can explain16:53
mazalWhen nlsthzn answered me on that long nick ding worked16:53
inetpromazal: and when I talk to you?16:53
mazalNever works on my correct name16:54
mazalI've looked at my notify settings over and over. Don't see what I did wrong16:54
mazalNot a trainsmash , is just nice when it works and I can hear someone talking to me when my eyes are not on pc16:55
Kilosadd something to your nick then16:55
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Kiloslol16:56
Kiloshi mazal-something 16:56
mazal-somethingNow it didn't work either16:56
mazal-somethingMind boggling16:56
mazal-somethingMaybe it only works when I am marked away ?16:56
Kiloswhat kind of something are you talikng about16:56
=== mazal-something is now known as mazal
Kiloswb mazal 16:57
inetpromazal: what client are you using?16:57
mazalnope , that doesn't work either16:57
mazalkonversation16:57
mazalnlsthzn, had a special voice it seems lol16:57
nlsthzncould be it is set to ping when you don't have the chat in the foreground16:58
nlsthznor it has focus16:58
nlsthznanyhow my ping works well and it keeps distracting me >.<16:59
* nlsthzn goes away again :p16:59
mazalI dunno16:59
* mazal shrugs16:59
Kilosmy ping works with every channel message17:00
mazalMaybe I must minimize it's window and not just jump to other whatever window I am busy in17:01
Kilosand then when nick said it pings a bit different17:01
Kilosbit louder17:01
inetpromany different options available under Settings | Configure Notifications17:01
mazalI wasn't there. I was at configure konversation - Notifications17:05
mazalLemme see what's there , maybe that's my problem17:06
mazalOk count to 3 and say my name please17:07
Kilosmazal 17:07
mazaldamn , still not working.17:07
mazalThere is a "play a sound" that wasn't selected. Selected it and hoped that was the problem17:08
mazalHang on , seenms every instance must be done by itself ?17:09
mazalWhen I click on "nick is written" the sound is not enabled17:09
mazaloom Kilos try again please17:10
mazalAnybody please17:18
Kilosmazal 17:22
Kilossorry i went and ate17:22
mazalYes !!!! 17:22
Kilosyay17:23
mazalThank you inetpro17:23
mazalI was looking in the wrong place the whole time17:23
Kilosnormally one sets notifications/alerts in the notifications secion17:23
Kilosyou rush too much17:23
Kilosread everything17:23
mazalI did set it in notifications , but in "configure konversation"17:24
mazalI have no idea how I didn't see that one directly under settings. Big and clear as day17:25
Kiloslol17:25
mazalWhich have to make me wonder why there are 2 seperate ones in the first place.17:26
Kilosask the konversation peeps17:26
magespawnmazal so you have your notifications sorted?17:27
mazalHow did I not see that ? One is so used to going to "confige appname" that I just went there the whole time17:27
mazalYeah magespawn , inetpro fixed it17:27
Kiloslol17:27
magespawncool beans17:27
Kiloswell spotted inetpro 17:27
Kilosnow fix mine17:28
mazalNow it works so well it dings while I am here also lol17:28
Kilosif ive been on anotherpage or even ticked a nick in the nick list and i dont first tick where one types then my typing goes into where my nick shows17:29
Kilosmazal try that17:29
mazalHow you mean ?17:30
mazalNot following17:30
Kilosif i change channels and want to type i must first tick where i type otherwise it modifies my nick17:30
Kilosthats how i became google 17:31
mazalMine goes back where it should17:31
Kiloswas telling maaz to google something in pm17:31
Kilosif i change channels then flashing cursor doesnt show17:31
mazalMine seems fine. I click on other channel tab , click on this tab , start typing and it's in right place17:32
Kilosnow it worked with changing channels17:32
Kilostick on someones nick then type here17:32
mazalEven works in the other channel17:32
mazalThen I can't type17:33
Kilosdo you see nicks17:33
mazalI must first click in the type bar to ype then17:33
mazalBut it doesn't change my nick or anything17:33
Kilosif i tick once on someones nick i cant keep typing till i tick here first17:33
mazalSame here17:33
Kilosya that click on type bar messes up my nick17:34
mazalDoesn't do anything here17:34
Kilosi mean if i dont tick first17:34
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Kilosi know it does it but i forget at times 17:35
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mazalI think I know what happens.17:35
mazalTo the left of the type pane is the nick change window17:35
Kilosyes17:35
mazalI think that get's highlighted , you start typing and it changes your nick17:35
=== Kilos is now known as Kiloslol
mazalDunno how to prevent it though17:36
Kiloslolja i even have google spread ubuntu as a nick in there17:36
Kiloslolsee17:36
mazalhahahaha17:36
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Kilosinetpro please fix it17:36
Kiloshi ambo 17:37
mazalDo you use yout channel list as tabs on the bottom or list on the left side17:37
Kilosleft same as xchat17:37
Kilosand nicks on right17:37
mazalSame as me17:37
nlsthznthat is the issue with KDE, to many settings and so many that seem to do the same thing17:37
nlsthznbut don't17:37
nlsthznhexchat, install and everything works :p17:37
nlsthznkthxbai17:38
mazalWhen I click on a nick it doesn't effect my "nick changer" if I can call it that17:38
Kilosone day ill go ask the konversation peeps17:38
Kilosno only when you type without first ticking in type bar17:38
mazalI can go crazy with the keys without clicking there first. Nothing happens17:39
magespawnit might have something to do with were the program is set to take focus17:39
magespawnsomething that says when switching tabs go to .....17:40
Kilosits weird because my nick gets changed on many ubuntu channels17:40
mazalOom Kilos , maybe go and disable that box completely then17:40
Kilosthey must think im crazy changing my nick all the time17:40
Kiloswhich box17:40
Kilostell me step by step17:41
mazalhang on let me find the path17:41
Kiloshead not lekker17:41
mazalsettings-configure konversation-chat window-show box to change own nickname17:41
mazalIt's under "layout" there17:42
Kilosja mazal well done ty man17:43
mazalsharp17:43
Kilosno17:43
Kilosstill cant tick on a nick and type17:43
mazalJa that's normal17:44
Kilosai!17:44
mazalCan't click somewhere and type somewhere else17:44
Kiloswhyyyy17:44
Kilosyou can on xchat17:45
mazalThat's a xchat bug hehehehe17:45
Kilos--hello17:46
Kilos--yes xchat doesnt even do it here17:46
mazalSeriously , I dunno how you can make it to click in one place and type in another without any other action17:46
Kilosin xchat i can tick a nick and still type17:46
Kilos--Guest73981 where did manl go17:47
mazalNow I wonder how do clear this nickbox's history17:47
Kilos--or mani17:47
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=== typehere is now known as mazal
pavlushkamissing inetpro !17:47
Kiloslol17:47
mazalCos it will pile up , surely one should be able to clear the history17:47
Kilosi have no idea17:48
Kilosmine must be pages long17:48
Kilosyes the pro found it one day17:48
mazalStop clicking on people nicks man !17:48
Kiloshaha17:48
mazalCan't find anything re clearing that list17:51
Kilospro will know if anyone does but he is sulking again17:52
Kiloscaught the bug from you17:52
Kiloslet me kill the extra me's17:53
mazaltoo many mini me's there17:53
mazalI go watch some tv17:55
Kilosok17:55
inetproyou guys are a crazy bunch 17:57
inetpronearly as bad as me17:57
magespawnhow do you think we got this way?17:58
Kiloslol17:58
Kilosis it a konversation prob inetpro 17:59
inetprono17:59
Kilosme prob17:59
inetprothe problem is between the chair and the keyboard17:59
Kilossigh17:59
magespawnid10t error18:00
inetproyou work with one app and expect every other app to behave the same?18:00
magespawnpicnic18:00
Kilosyes for irc it must type in the correct bar18:00
Kilosi like konversation except for that one bug18:01
inetprolearn to do things differently and change the way you do things 18:01
inetprostop clicking even, learn to use your keyboard18:02
Kilosthats why i must do one thing onl18:02
Kilostoo many channels 18:02
Kilosonly18:03
inetproKilos: I have more18:03
Kilosand meeting in africa in 30 mins and min peeps there18:03
pavlushkaGood day inetpro!18:03
Kilosyes man you also have all your brain'18:03
inetprobut I just jump between about 5 of them frequently18:03
Kilosi sold some for booze money18:04
inetproalt+1, alt+2, alt+n...18:04
inetpropavlushka: hi18:04
magespawnwhat are you using inetpro?18:04
inetpromagespawn: quassel18:05
inetprothe concept is the same on most other clients18:05
inetprojust find teh shortcuts18:05
inetprothe*18:05
pavlushkainetpro: alt+n(n+1)/2, :p18:05
magespawnhi pavlushka 18:06
pavlushkahello magespawn !18:06
Kiloseven a guy from turkey in africa channel now18:06
magespawninetpro: indeed, i like irssi18:06
pavlushkaKilos: Fatar I guess!18:07
Kilosno az18:07
pavlushkai was forced to use irssi for help when i was unable to log into gui, that's way i learned a thing or to in irssi, lol18:08
pavlushka*two18:09
* chesedo wonder how one will go to alt+16 for example18:10
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* pavlushka wonders if chesedo knows series sum!18:11
pavlushkachesedo: :p18:11
Kiloschesedo is very clever18:11
chesedopavlushka: yes, and the proof18:11
chesedo:P18:11
pavlushkalol I though Kilos was clever.18:12
Kilosnono Kilos talks too much18:12
chesedopavlushka: he is brilliant...18:12
pavlushkaKilos: please never mind, I am just pulling you leg, lol18:12
Kilosi know lad18:12
pavlushka*your18:12
Kiloschesedo you can promote the ubuntu for hope there as well18:13
Kilosmight get other countries in africa active as well18:14
pavlushkachesedo: actually I dont know the range of his( Kilos ) diplomacy, !18:14
chesedoKilos: hmm, but that reminds me18:14
Kilosreminds you of what18:15
chesedokmf: did any other peeps pitch after i left18:15
chesedo*?18:15
Kilosoh yes what was it like chesedo 18:15
kmfchesedo: nope18:16
Kilosaw poor turnout18:16
chesedofun and educational...18:16
Kilosas long as you guys enjoyed yourselves thats good18:17
Kiloshow many peeps pitched up18:17
* chesedo now knows about brave, servo, and another new browser18:17
Kiloswhat browser?18:19
Kilosive even tried maxthon18:19
* chesedo typed five integers trying to figure the correct counting...18:19
Kilosstill prefer opera18:19
chesedoKilos: brave and vivaldo18:19
chesedo*vivaldi18:19
Kiloslinux browsers?18:19
chesedoyeah both and in beta18:20
paddatrapperbrave sounds familier... Can't place where I've heard of it before though18:20
Kilosah so will be in repos soon18:20
chesedoKilos: doubt it18:20
Kilospaddatrapper you can join us on #ubuntu-africa as well for the meeting18:21
Kiloswill be short and quick i think18:21
paddatrapperKilos: I'll try - DebConf meeting at the same time18:21
chesedopavlushka: it is the creator of js' project18:21
Kiloszulucoda_ you as well18:21
Kilosok paddatrapper debconf more important18:22
* pavlushka thinks chesedo is missing me!18:23
Kiloslol18:23
chesedopavlushka: what did i miss?18:24
pavlushkachesedo> pavlushka: it is the creator of js' project18:24
chesedooh boy, sorry pavlushka18:25
pavlushkanot a problem18:25
chesedopaddatrapper:  it is the creator of js' project18:25
pavlushkachesedo: I know you were missing me, :p18:25
* chesedo now has a new pa<tab> problem18:25
paddatrapperchesedo: Ah ok18:26
Kiloslol18:26
chesedopaddatrapper: well that is what kmf told me today18:26
kmfchesedo: we where talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich18:30
LangjanHi Kilos are you well?18:43
Kiloshi Langjan yes ty just busy in meeting in #ubuntu-africa18:44
Kilosyou can join too18:44
Langjanoh I thought meeting was last night - another one?18:44
Langjanthks18:44
Kilostis is all africa on one channel18:45
Kilosbut most peeps seem to have forgotten18:45
Langjanjust wondered how the 16.04 launch went 18:45
Kilosmanhy like it but there are still many bugs to sort18:46
Langjancan chat again tomorrow some time18:46
Kilosok ty Langjan stay well18:46
Kiloslook after you guys18:46
chesedoLangjan: you can ask kmf18:46
Kilosty for popping in18:46
Langjanok good youi too Kilos 18:47
Kilosoh yes ask kmf18:47
Langjanthks chesedo 18:47
Langjanhe also on meeting? lekker aand vir julle jongmanne18:48
Kilosselle daar dankie18:48
kmflekker slaap Langjan 18:48
nlsthznhave a good one all... work again from tomorrow... will come visit soon :p19:09
Kiloschesedo thanks so much lad19:09
Kilosthat wasnt good for the head19:12
Kilosbushtech hoekom so still19:13
Kilosskokkk jy baie slim ne19:14
Kilosoh my superfly no worry now , but sometime can you check why QA's links to minutes dont works please19:16
Kilosthe text link is http://52.17.74.45/freenode-%23ubuntu-africa/2016-04-27-18-34-31.txt19:16
Kilossays page not found 40419:17
Kiloswe have 3 months to sort her out before next meeting19:17
Kilosso i have no idea where she is saving stuff to19:17
Kilosai!19:18
magespawnmight not be saving it19:21
Kilosyeah magespawn but why19:22
Kilosibids normally work19:22
paddatrapperGah, I can only access google.co.za... Every single other page times out on this Telkom line19:22
magespawnlets see if we cn find out19:23
Kilosai! paddatrapper 19:23
magespawnwhat line paddatrapper ?19:23
Kilosrun mtr and see if you can find where things are breaking down19:24
paddatrappermagespawn: Telkom 2mbps19:24
magespawnouch19:24
magespawnor just a normal traceroute19:24
paddatrapperIt was working fine until about 30 minutes ago. Then it just died19:24
Kilosyeah someting19:24
Kilosstorming?19:24
magespawnmaybe reboot the router19:25
paddatrapperActually pretty calm. Only had a little rain earlier19:25
Kilosor bad joints in junction boxes19:25
paddatrappermagespawn: already done that twice19:25
magespawnKilos: have you always been using that server for the minutes?19:25
Kilostelkom has got very slack on maintenance19:25
paddatrapperSeems it's only on wifi... Wired connection is fine19:25
superflyKilos: where does she get that IP address from?19:26
magespawnand they prefer to repair rather than replace faulty cables19:26
Kilosno magespawn  we moved her from pro's to fly's a while back19:26
* paddatrapper has to tinker with the wifi it seems19:26
Kilosthts why i asked fly to check19:26
magespawnthat is nginx server, does not seem to have anything on it though19:26
Kilosbut he is busy and has 3 months19:27
Kilosoh my19:27
Kilosi could enjoy having adsl at times19:27
magespawnKilos: superfly ^^19:28
magespawn< superfly> Kilos: where does she get that IP address from?19:29
LangjanHi guys, still meeting?19:32
Kilospaddatrapper and all others19:32
Kilosfeel  free to join these guys from tomorrow19:33
Kiloshttps://code.launchpad.net/~pirabarlen-cheenaramen/ubuntu/wily/nagios-plugins/crypto-fix19:33
Kiloshttps://launchpad.net/~hackers.mu19:33
mazalnight everyone19:33
Kilosnight mazal 19:33
magespawngood night mazal 19:33
Kiloslekker slaap19:33
LangjanKilos,  whos the libre office fundi?19:34
Kilosthe fly19:34
Kilosmind you could be many19:35
paddatrapperThird times the charm! When in doubt restart again19:35
Kilosfly helped me when i battled19:35
LangjanI need to get somebody who can point me in the right direction but will have to email what I need to do to create some text in blocks19:36
magespawnsorted paddatrapper?19:36
magespawngoogle is usually good for me Langjan 19:37
paddatrappermagespawn: Yup, all good19:37
Kiloswat se die google ding vir jou oom?19:37
LangjanI have been there but is clear as mud magespawn, old brains battle  19:37
Kiloslol19:37
Kilosmagespawn dont forget i call him oom19:38
Langjannot funny at all...lmga19:38
Kiloshaha19:38
Kilospaddatrapper glad thats sorted19:38
Kilosyou a hacker19:38
LangjanSa to be called oom for only 8 years and how many months and days? 19:38
LangjanSad19:38
Kilos2 months19:39
Kiloswhy sad19:39
Langjanwant ek is nog jonk man19:40
Langjandan noem die ou man my oom19:40
Kilosja ek is oud19:41
Kilosouer as julle almal19:41
Langjanja my omie19:41
Kilosek kan dit bewys19:41
Kiloswas jy al by die groot hekke daar bo19:42
LangjanUnabridged birth certificate?19:42
magespawntext in blocks? 19:42
Kilosno man 19:42
Langjanyes magespawn 19:42
Langjanin different sizes and colors19:42
Kilosmagespawn will help you oom19:42
magespawnperhaps a little more of a discription or an example if possible19:42
Kilosprint them on paper19:42
Langjanreally? baie dankie19:43
magespawnlike a magazine or newspaper/19:43
LangjanI have, can I mail it to you?19:43
Kilosthen use those differet colour highlighters19:43
magespawnsure 19:43
Langjanso you can see what I want to do?19:43
Langjanthks19:43
Kilossien oom19:43
Kilosmy mense weet als19:43
magespawnLangjan: see pm19:44
Kilosnet hulle weet ook hoe om weg te kruip19:44
Langjanthks got it19:44
Kiloskyk na sy naam op die kant oom19:45
Kilosai! dek sukkel met my volk19:45
paddatrapperWhat is the overall aim of launchpad, project management or source code management?19:48
Kiloswe built our site there paddatrapper 19:48
Kilosand the africa site19:48
Kilosusing nikola and bzr19:49
LangjanSorry magespawn its a 2 MB doc19:49
Kiloswell the fly did the work and others helped him and i kept breaking it19:49
magespawnpaddatrapper: i think sourcecode, but maybe a bit of both19:49
magespawnnp Langjan 19:49
paddatrapperOk, trying to get an idea of where it sits in everything19:50
LangjanI have tried Libre office and impress 19:50
Langjandont really know where to begin19:51
Kilosin ubuntu everything starts with launchpad19:51
Kiloseveryone has lp address19:51
magespawnokay, which part are you struggling with19:51
magespawn?19:51
magespawnLangjan: ^^19:52
Langjanhow to begin to get the blocks of text in place  19:52
Kilosfrom LP we then make wiki pages 19:52
LangjanYouve lost me Kilos 19:53
Kilosim telling paddatrapper 19:54
Kilossorry19:54
Langjanoh ok19:54
magespawnwell pages 5-9 will can be done by inserting a table on the page and then filling in the text, you can adjust the size of the columns after the table is on the page, a bit like working in a spreadsheet19:54
Langjanmagespawn, I just need to see how I get hose tables right19:54
magespawnpages 2-3 i am not too sure19:55
Langjaninserting tables does not seem to be the way to go 19:55
Langjanno 2-3 is not necessary19:55
Langjanits 5-919:55
magespawnthat would be the way i would handle it19:55
paddatrapperKilos: Ok thanks, ek verstaan nou19:55
Kilosnp19:56
magespawnlet me create a document with the tables in and then i will mail it back to you19:56
Langjannormal tables too rigid, oh many thanks 19:56
Langjanbut how do I learn to do it myself? 19:57
magespawnthere are a couple of tricks, like merging cells etc that can get that effect19:57
magespawni had a libre office tutorial website around here somewhere19:57
Kilosisnt there a tutorial available19:57
LangjanSorry magespawn I also need page 319:58
magespawnLangjan: that i am not sure how to do, maybe create it a image file in gimp or inkscape first, then insert that file in to document20:00
magespawns/a/as20:00
magespawnif you really want to get into document lay out then i suggest scribus20:01
magespawnvery nice for creating a layout without pictures or words to be used later20:02
Langjanok thks magespawn will have a look20:02
KilosLangjan did you get the tutorial20:03
Langjanjust checking...20:04
Langjannothing yet20:04
Kiloshttp://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/getting-started-with-libreoffice-writer--cms-2170020:04
Langjanthks Kilos 20:05
Kiloshttp://www.pitt.edu/~poole/libreofficeTutorials/libreofficeIntro.pdf20:05
Kilostheres one for eachers even20:05
Kiloshttp://www.pitt.edu/~poole/libreofficeframe.htm20:06
magespawnback20:09
Kiloswb  magespawn 20:10
Kiloswb Webtricity you need to chat sometimes20:10
magespawndid you guyes get my last couple of messages?20:11
Kilosnope20:11
Kiloswe saw about scribus20:11
magespawni'll have a look at the tables tomorrow at work, no libreoffice installed here20:12
Kilosmagespawn can you hack20:12
magespawnin what way Kilos ?20:12
Kilosi dunno what a hackathon is20:12
Kilosbut to morrow mauritius is having a three day hackathon20:13
paddatrapperHackathons usually involve getting together and working to fix bugs in a specific piece of software20:13
Kilosthought maybe you could learn there20:13
magespawnusually where a whole load of people get together to debug nd write programs20:13
magespawnubuntu hackathon20:14
magespawn?20:14
Kilosyes but i have no idea what theyll do but thought you guys that can learn and remember would benefit from it20:14
magespawnare they doing it online?20:15
Kilos<loganaden> we are hacking sslv3 in ubuntu & debian20:15
Kilos<loganaden> Operation S.A.D = SSLv3 Absolute destruction20:15
magespawnsecure socket layer version 320:15
Kiloson channel #hackers.mu20:15
magespawnthat would be a little beyond my skill level, but will have a look if i get the time20:16
Kiloshttps://code.launchpad.net/~pirabarlen-cheenaramen/ubuntu/wily/nagios-plugins/crypto-fix20:16
Kiloshttps://launchpad.net/~hackers.mu20:16
magespawncool beans Kilos, bedtime for me20:19
magespawngood night all20:19
Kilosnight magespawn 20:19
Kilossleep tight20:19
Kilosnight all.sleep tight20:20
Kilossien jou more paddatrapper 20:20
Kilosnag inetpro superfly 20:20
paddatrappernag Ki20:21
Langjannag kil slaap lekker20:21

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