[06:12] morning anton_may dlPhreak paddatrapper superfly inetpro theblazehen and other lurkers [06:12] good mornings [06:12] oh and hi Kilos [06:13] holy moly [06:13] you got it right [06:13] * inetpro always gets it right [06:13] hahaha [06:14] do you have day off today? [06:16] Morning oom Kilos , inetpro [06:16] hi mazal [06:18] Has the ubuntu-za membership always been just 1 year ? [06:18] See mine expired again [06:18] yes [06:19] hmm...could have sworn it was longer [06:21] Kilos: you're up way too early on a public holiday [06:21] oops sorry [06:22] btw oom , would have been here last night , but power went off :( [06:22] ai! [06:22] Morning superfly [06:22] Kilos: you're supposed to sleep in. [06:22] Hi mazal, so are you. Unless you have kids. [06:22] nature calls reularly in the mornings superfly [06:23] im a creature of habit , thats why i battle when things change [06:23] Kilos: I know, but you can still go back to bed after making a wee [06:23] like using unity after getting used to kde [06:24] everything is on the wrong side [06:24] nono breakfast is also a same time thing [06:24] oh inetpro [06:24] superfly, I was in bed before 9pm already. So was up at 1:30 and again at 5:30 :P [06:25] Sponsored by power failure [06:25] you went missing last night so you are next months chair [06:25] mazal: you're like a little kid! [06:25] haha [06:25] he is ill superfly [06:25] compulsive buyers syndrome [06:25] issie ! [06:26] haha [06:26] I didn't buy anything yesterday [06:26] thats why you are ill [06:26] hi pavlushka [06:26] If I wasn't on stand-by today a little "accident" might have happened today though [06:27] yes Kilos , how are you? [06:27] good ty and you [06:27] ahaha [06:47] inetpro did you find out why TZ is always upgrading [06:47] must be security stuffs [06:56] Kilos: TZ changes happen because of DST changes [06:56] oh and I didn't agree to chair anything [06:56] oh ok then [06:57] we asked you and you didnt say you couldnt so we took that as accepting [06:57] chesedo has an exm [06:57] exam [06:58] I gave up when I kept getting disconnected [06:58] we fogrive you [06:58] forgive [06:59] and to show we werent upset we even handed the chair back to you [06:59] * inetpro will read the minutes one day when there's nothing else to do [06:59] lol [06:59] you at work? [06:59] * inetpro is always at work [06:59] nonono man [06:59] real work [07:00] away from home at office work [07:02] what's the difference? [07:02] well [07:02] at office tea times are scheduled [07:02] home work is anytime is coffee time [07:15] Ugh , latency is killing me :( [07:16] hey Kilos [07:16] hows theblazehen today [07:16] Lo theblazehen [07:17] hey mazal. 475 ms rtt to you from me it seems. Ouch [07:17] When I do installs or updates in cli there's about 3 to 4 seconds delay before something start to happen. Mobile is crap here [07:18] Tried some mc with friends , sompletely unplayable [07:19] i thought your adsl was fixed [07:19] I cancelled it mos oom , they fixed it 1 moths after I put cancellation in , then the very next day cancellations department woke up and did the cancellation [07:20] lol [07:20] Too many cable issues here and too long downtime. Cable not an option anymore [07:21] Ever sinve they retrenched the people who can work the work simply don't get done [07:21] since* [07:22] * mazal ponders [07:23] i wonder what were the pros issues last night [07:23] With mc a bust I should prob go abuse the 360 [07:23] also was very unstable connection [07:25] Between telscum and escum I am lucky if I get through just 1 day without issues [07:31] hi Wolfeyes [07:38] hey Kilos [08:15] mornin kmf [08:15] morning Kilos [08:23] Morning everyone [08:23] howdy toad killer [08:24] How you doing Kilos? [08:24] well ty lad , and you? [08:25] I'm good. Enjoying blobbing for a bit before I need to start getting stuff done [08:25] lol [08:28] mazal: I feel your pain - I've had bad Telkom Internet for years that they finally fixed the other day. Turned out to be a corroded connector in the junction box... Been complaining since about 2010 to them [08:28] ai! [08:32] Hey paddatrapper [08:32] Hey superfly [08:32] Sup kmf [08:33] How things? [08:33] Can't complain, got to (sort of) sleep in this morning [08:34] Always nice [08:34] hey all [08:34] Hey nlsthzn [08:34] superfly, alo, how are you? all well I hope? [08:34] paddatrapper: I'm sure tumbleweed would love to have you on the video team [08:35] nlsthzn: all good, and yours? [08:35] nlsthzn: How's baby bear? [08:36] superfly: yeah thanks. I spoke to him last night - finding quotes for hiring various things sound and video related [08:36] Awesome [08:36] good enough (despite the oil price trying to wrangle away all the jobs here)... oh and the baby bear is growing into a healthy toddler bear thanks :) [08:37] nlsthzn: yeah, same with the Princess on this side [08:37] hi nlsthzn [08:37] Hey nlsthzn [08:39] glad to hear superfly [08:39] alo uncle Kilos , paddatrapper [08:39] Some useless info feedback: [08:39] First gaming testing begun on K 16.04 ( minecraft ) [08:40] Did not install oracle java and using build-in open JDK 8 [08:40] No issues [08:40] excellent performance and stability [08:40] good [08:40] The more intensive Steam stuff I plan on starting this afternoon ( telscum and escum permitting ) [08:42] Toughest of them all will be BL 2 [08:42] Is by far the strongest / biggest game I have that is on Linux [08:42] Maybe I must do it now...hmmmm [08:42] lol [08:43] decisions decisions [08:43] but....but....I want to finish my railroad in mc :P [08:43] what did fly say last night [08:44] mazal, I have had an issue launching planetary annihilation, sound issue... launching steam with some parameters fixes it. annoying [08:45] don't think the issue is only on 16.04 however [08:45] nlsthzn, never played that before [08:45] it is a kickstarter game that didn't live up to the hype [08:45] which is usual [08:45] ok [08:46] and smite via wine not installing anymore, but that is because of a change to the launcher, not the distro it seems :/ [08:46] silly devs :p [08:46] writing software for windows that makes life difficult on linux [08:47] ouch [08:48] Ok dumb question for the day: How do I see what filesystem an external is ? Without going to gparted [08:50] oho , steam is not in the repo's anymore , lemme check with synaptic [08:51] steam is in the repo's [08:51] mazal: mount [08:51] Both synaptic and software centre doesn't show it for me nlsthzn [08:51] ta superfly [08:51] weird... well I always install with apt [08:52] and that worked [08:52] package name just steam ? [08:52] mazal: you need to go to Steam to get it [08:53] On my way now [08:53] Wonder why they removed it from repo's though [08:53] So many games, so little time. I've been playing TinyKeep recently [08:54] mazal: I've never found it in the repos [08:55] sudo apt-get install steam [08:55] try it first >.< [08:55] save yourself a lot of headache [08:55] superfly, I did with 14.04 [08:55] nlsthzn, copy that [08:56] the new software centre based on the gnome-software will not show many apps... there is a certain file or flag that it needs where it pulls the info from. not all packages has this. but synaptic should show it :/ [08:57] Interesting , how does apt see it and synaptic not [08:57] * nlsthzn installs synaptic to check it out [08:57] I haven't used any software centre thing in years [08:57] nlsthzn: next time, use "apt" [08:58] I do when I can't remember the package name [08:58] much nicer than apt-get / apt-cache [08:58] well my synaptic shows it (steam:i386) might be because I have it installed [08:58] The ones I remember I also cli [08:58] Will see what mine shows after install , installing with apt now [08:58] superfly, I have actually been using apt a lot these days... but muscle memory still goes apt-get :p [08:58] mazal: apt search [08:59] Alias it nlsthzn [08:59] installed , let's go see what says synaptic [08:59] :) but both work fine for me.. I always tab-complete from about the second letter of what I am installing so I always have a list [09:00] paddatrapper, that sounds like a sensible thing to do ... but I am lazy [09:00] Yep steam there now [09:00] I wonder what other software I miss that way and think it's not there [09:00] nlsthzn: Lol ja I get that! [09:01] :) [09:01] ugh , 245mb update , sb time [09:01] yup steam is brutal in that regard [09:07] nlsthzn, ever used a controller on Linux ? Would it work ? [09:08] I have a logitech gamepad f510 and it works as expected [09:08] On Winbloze I used a wired 360 controller , prefer it to kb and mouse [09:08] 360 controller will also work [09:09] hmmm...... [09:09] This is gonna make trouble [09:09] might need an additional app however [09:09] Oom Kilos , I might buy some more games lol [09:09] :) [09:10] mazal, I have a crap ton of linux games from humble sales that I am not using as they are double etc... what genre are u interested in and I will send you a key? [09:10] fps , strategy , action adventure , rpg , action rpg [09:11] and some platformers , but not too keen on the platformers [09:11] lol [09:11] so games in general [09:12] well I see that I have a planetary annihilation key extra... pity I can't export this list : [09:12] :/ [09:13] what is your fave genre mazal ? [09:13] sjoe [09:13] All of them lol [09:13] I'm a heavy gamer [09:13] then you need many keys [09:14] Ok steam installed , painless and no issues. According to my library I have 11 games that is Linux supported , nice :) [09:14] Now I needs to remember how to install from my backup , haven't done that in more than a year :P [09:15] ai! die kindera [09:15] kinders [09:15] Wat oom ? [09:15] speel speel speel. haal nog geld uit en speel meer [09:15] ai! [09:16] ohi EvilDMP you still around [09:16] Hey I am working on Ubuntu's rep here. If I can get gamers over it's more ppl for Ubuntu :) [09:16] hello Kilos [09:17] any excuse is better than none mazal [09:17] issie [09:17] haha [09:17] we got sirens screaminghere [09:18] someone been shot again [09:21] Ok install from backup is running. Gonna start with BL2 since it is a very big strong game and good test [09:22] Ai steam is nice , pitty it's platform is so expensive :( [09:22] mazal: BL2? [09:22] Borderlands 2 [09:22] aaahhh [09:22] Know it ? [09:22] mazal: Humble Bundles++ [09:23] I mean the hardware is expesive [09:23] expensive* [09:23] know of it, as it were, haven't bought it, haven't played it [09:23] Awesome game. One of my all time favourites. FPS meats RPG [09:24] Have it on PC , PS3 and PS4 :) [09:26] BL2 is great fun. Wish I had more time to play it [09:29] * nlsthzn just tried awesomenaughts again... got my backside handed to me >.< [09:36] I tend to play the puzzle games, they're the only ones I have a chance against [09:46] climagic tip: # Remove the previous word on the command line (before the cursor). This is highly useful when reusing old commands. [09:54] inetpro: I must remember that [10:01] superfly, some puzzle games are ok... but often they just lead to frustration :; [10:01] :p [10:13] nlsthzn: I get more frustration out of the bigger games [10:13] I guess it depends on the game... some can be very frustrating [10:13] but I like indie games :) [10:15] * nlsthzn testing obs and streaming to twitch tv [10:15] really working well in 16.04 [10:21] good day all [10:23] hi magespawn [10:29] hey magespawn and bye lol [10:35] uh oh! [10:36] who ran into a power pole again? [10:36] power failure here for almost 30 minutes now [10:37] oh Kilos, and I am at home [10:37] lol [10:38] time to sit back and relax, can't work with no power [10:39] +1 [10:39] can't power without work [10:55] hi bushtech [10:55] you missed our meeting last night [10:56] i go check up on sheep [11:00] hi Kilos, sorry, bit busy [11:00] you well? [11:09] at least power came back again as we sit down for lunch, with no coffee... wonder what happened [11:10] wb Wolfeyes [11:11] ty inetpro [11:11] inetpro: some neighbours chopping cables again? [11:12] bushtech: with power back so soon? I doubt [11:13] lol, maybe they cut themselves off as well [11:13] haha, ja maybe [11:21] * inetpro really enjoying 'My Data Manager' to for checking data usage on Android devices [11:22] so much more useful when you can drill down to week, day or hour [11:23] inetpro: does it show which apps are sucking data? [11:23] bushtech: yep [11:23] bushtech: see https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm&hl=en [11:23] great, will check it out [11:23] thanks [11:24] only thing that needs a bit of a rethink is the shared plan option [11:25] doesn't really work when you don't have a single data account for multiple devices [11:25] oh and you can not use that for wifi at all [11:25] would be awesome if one could use it for wifi [11:26] bushtech: I do like the alarm options for wifi [11:27] you can set three alarms, two for setting your cummalative usage for the month and one for daily usage [11:28] oh and the alrms for data usage limits are just as nice [11:30] and there goes our power again [11:36] ai! [11:37] Eish! [11:54] Kilos, how can I check whether my alternator in the car is charging without a multimeter? [12:06] inetpro, drive long enough and if the battery is dead you know >.> [12:06] Hello everyone [12:07] Does anyone know where I can get Ubuntu stickers in SA? [12:07] hi kayise [12:07] print your own [12:07] welcome to ubuntu-za [12:07] I'm looking for an ubuntu sticker to cover the apple logo on my machine [12:07] lol [12:07] lemme find a link [12:07] yeah [12:07] lol === Kilos is now known as google [12:08] ai! [12:08] i want to make sure people know I'm using Ubuntu not MAC === google is now known as Kilos [12:08] does that make you koogle? [12:08] Maaz googlr spread ubuntu [12:08] Kilos: What? [12:08] ai! [12:09] Maaz google spread ubuntu [12:09] Kilos: "Home | spreadubuntu" http://spreadubuntu.org/ :: "Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- spread" http://packages.ubuntu.com/spread :: "The Spread Toolkit - Download" http://www.spread.org/download.html :: "Ubuntu Unity Spread for 14.04 - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuqn19Fq5i0 :: "Task switching in Ubuntu, and a introduction to 'The Spread ..." [12:09] https://design.canonical.com/2012/03/task-switching-in-ubuntu-and-a-introduction-to-the-sp… [12:09] top link kayise [12:09] you dhould be able to get something there [12:10] s/dhould/should [12:11] maybe someone has stickers from 14.04 release [12:11] it is possible to order stickers from canonical store... they don't cost to much but the shipping costs are high [12:12] and postage is dicey [12:12] kayise where are you [12:14] okay thanks for the link [12:14] I think printing is way to go then [12:14] i think you can download images from there and print your own [12:14] definiteley the cheapest way imo [12:16] ya i had a look at the ones from canonical store, wasnt sure about shipping. so if you say costs are high, then might as well go with the print route [12:16] http://spreadubuntu.org/files/stickers_tux_10.04_12.04_es.png [12:16] where are you kayise maybe someone close has leftovers [12:17] i'm in Joburg [12:18] if you dont come right with printing ill try get hold of the contact in jozi and let you know [12:18] okay thanks bud [12:19] you will find me here most of every day [12:19] you can also hang out here 24/7 [12:19] oh btw how did you find us [12:20] nlsthzn has maias membership expired? [12:20] do you know if anyone in Cape Town has some stickers left over, because I'll be in CT in May for a weekend [12:20] the lady im asking about is there [12:20] superfly have you any? [12:21] we have many members in CT [12:21] Kilos: I don't really. I was looking for my own the other day and can't find them [12:21] oh my [12:22] hopefully maia still has [12:22] Kilos, ubuntu-membership uncle Kilos ? [12:22] yes nlsthzn [12:22] please [12:22] afaik it doesn't ever expire [12:22] every 2 years [12:22] and peeps miss the email reminders [12:23] why arent you showing yours [12:23] hmm... [12:23] how i found this channel: 1) first searched in google for "ubuntu stickers south africa" 2) Then this link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2781-ubuntu-trusty-release-party-in-randburg/ came up 3) Then from there I found this link http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/ [12:24] aha [12:24] kayise: impressive [12:24] this is the ZA LoCo help channel [12:24] @superfly lol [12:24] * nlsthzn asked to have his cloak removed after incident... don't want to associate to closely with ubuntu... [12:24] ok nlsthzn [12:25] see superfly our advertising is poor [12:25] Kilos: we have advertising? [12:25] ya i didnt know about this channel and I've using Ubuntu since 2009 [12:25] nope thats why it is so poor [12:26] I'm closing IRC now, I need to concentrate on some hairy code, I'll be back later. [12:26] so what is a LoCo? [12:26] local community [12:26] ahh okay [12:27] http://loco.ubuntu.com/ [12:28] do you guys have meetups and stuff? [12:28] for example anything planned for 16.04 LTS? [12:28] we try yes but everyone is so busy nowadays [12:28] oh i see [12:28] hopefully we will have some release parties when the flash disks arrive [12:30] what are the flash disks? also where are they arriving from? Canonical?? [12:30] we have a meeting every month here as well at 8.30 pm on the 4th tuesday of the month [12:30] yes we order from canonical, they arent supplying dvds anymore [12:32] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/buy-ubuntu-16-04-usb-official [12:32] 8g sticks [12:34] oh i see, I must say the branded ubuntu usb stick looks awesome. [12:35] yeah [12:36] with luck we will get supplies for each region [12:36] and maybe some stickers as well [12:37] okay cool, do you know what the ETA on these are? [12:38] the biggest time snags come with customs [12:38] so maybe a month or more [12:38] iesh customs [12:38] yeah [12:39] last batch of dvds took weeks to clear [12:40] i think I'll pursue the print option for now, also would be nice to know how printing process works, might come in handy for other future projects. [12:41] oh kayise join our mailing list and launchpad and then mail the list and ask if anyone in jozi has any stickers left over [12:41] https://ubuntu-za.org [12:42] cool I've joined the mailing list, thanks [12:43] you welcome [12:43] join launchpad as well then you are a ZA member [12:46] hi Sxuza [12:50] i can never find the LP link for za [12:51] hey Kilos :) [12:51] inetpro dont you want to put it back in the topic [12:51] if im Sop for another channel somewhere , how do i find out how many people are on the ops list? [12:51] infact everyone that is serviced by chanserv [12:52] ask on #freenode [12:52] ok [12:52] what is a Sop anyway [12:52] Super op [12:52] ah [12:53] when u can add and delete people and some other servicees for that channel [12:53] Hello all [12:53] hey chesedo [12:53] freenode has changed, you first query an op to allow you to speak [12:53] hi chesedo [12:53] whats out LP link [12:54] inetpro: sorry for having to put you on as chair without conce [12:54] *consent [12:55] another new peson today been on buntu since 2009 and only just found us today [12:55] i think pro is away due to power cut [12:58] hi zulucoda [12:58] welcome to ubuntu-za [12:58] kayise https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [12:59] Hi Kilos, actually its me Kayise. [12:59] haha [12:59]