[00:00] <zykotick9> !dvd | edubuntuuser2017
[00:03] <edubuntuuser2017> That's funny, you buy a DVD but can't play it for legal reasons. However, if you pirate the movie and convert it, then you can play it. I think they have it backwards. They should encourage us to go buy the DVD and allow us to play it on Ubuntu.
[00:04] <nacc> who is "they"?
[00:04] <OerHeks> edubuntuuser2017, maybe you *need* to set region correct, not free. or that dvd cannot be played on linux/css hack at all.
[00:04] <edubuntuuser2017> I assume the DCMA, I am not sure who is the head cheese in charge personally
[00:04] <OerHeks> some do not want to play
[00:04] <edubuntuuser2017> how do you set the region?
[00:05] <zykotick9> edubuntuuser2017: CAREFUL... the hardware in most dvd players will only allow regions to be changed 3 times!
[00:06] <edubuntuuser2017> zykotick9, I don't understand that, I am trying to play it on a computer not a DVD player
[00:06] <zykotick9> edubuntuuser2017: i know...
[00:07] <edubuntuuser2017> If you run it on a computer, I don't see why a region would need to be set if your time is set with region
[00:07] <zykotick9> edubuntuuser2017: sorry, i'm talking abut the dvd optical drive in your computer!  only 3 changes!
[00:07] <edubuntuuser2017> ok
[00:07] <edubuntuuser2017> how do I change that?
[00:08]  * zykotick9 wouldn't, UNLESS you know it's wrong...
[00:08] <edubuntuuser2017> is there a way to at least check it to make sure it is set to the right country?
[00:08] <OerHeks> does that dvd play on an other linux machine/desktop?
[00:08] <edubuntuuser2017> I haven't tested yet
[00:09] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Troubleshooting
[00:10] <Jordan_U> edubuntuuser2017: Region settings don't matter when using libdvdcss, so it can't be wrong.
[00:10] <OerHeks> There's a chance that even after installing libdvdcss, some of your DVD's still won't play. One solution is to play the DVD with a media player that allows you to disable DVD menus.... *hint*
[00:11] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: i didn't know that... interesting.  thanks.
[00:11] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: You're welcome.
[00:11] <OerHeks> oh, that should be added to this wiki
[00:13] <mekhami> i added a user to the sudoers group with gpasswd -a <user> sudo but when i went back and logged ont o that user they didn't have sudo privilege
[00:14] <Jordan_U> mekhami: Did you literally log out then back in again? Does the command "groups" list "sudo"?
[00:14] <EriC^^> mekhami: silly question but did you try to log out and log back in?
[00:16] <edubuntuuser2017> The DVD works fine on XP, so I guess that is what I'll use it for then
[00:16] <edubuntuuser2017> It is probably a legal issue
[00:17] <mekhami> EriC^^: i exited the root user with exit
[00:17] <mekhami> that's all i did
[00:17] <mekhami> did i need to logout/login
[00:18] <mekhami> ah so i did.
[00:19] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: yes'
[00:19] <mike-drummer> System tried to uninstall some old kernel versions, threw this error http://pastebin.com/wkxTnjGT
[00:20] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: yes what
[00:20] <EriC^^> sorry forgot the question
[00:20] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: it seems to be impossible to destroy
[00:20] <EriC^^> ah ok great
[00:20] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: the efi windows thing
[00:20] <EriC^^> can you boot a live usb?
[00:20] <robotdevil1> yep
[00:20] <EriC^^> no i mean did you recover windows and it's working fine now?
[00:20] <robotdevil1> yep
[00:20] <EriC^^> ok, boot a live usb if you can
[00:21] <robotdevil1> ok
[00:21] <robotdevil1> first
[00:21] <robotdevil1> how do you want the bios setup?
[00:21] <robotdevil1> legacy no secure boot or opposite
[00:22] <etzer> hello all
[00:22] <etzer> ?
[00:22] <reisio> 'lo et
[00:22] <etzer> my grub menu stop working after installing windows 10. when I reboot it went straight to windows
[00:23] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: however windows is installed
[00:23] <EriC^^> etzer: hp laptop?
[00:24] <etzer> Acer laptop Aspire VN-17
[00:24] <reisio> etzer: that's normal
[00:24] <reisio> etzer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:25] <EriC^^> etzer: can you get a boot options menu and boot ubuntu from it?
[00:25] <etzer> no menu at all it just went straight to windows
[00:25] <reisio> again, that is normal
[00:26] <etzer> reisio, if it is normal, how can I load ubuntu now?
[00:26] <reisio> etzer: I already said...
[00:27] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: k usb is booting
[00:27] <EriC^^> etzer: can you get a boot options menu by pressing esc or so?
[00:27] <etzer> how can I get the grub menu back again so I can choose either windows or ubuntu?
[00:28] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: desktop is up
[00:28] <EriC^^> etzer: boot a live usb of ubuntu if you can't
[00:28] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: 1 sec
[00:29] <xpistos> Hey all. Just setup my new 16.04 box and I am having some trouble authenticating with samba on my windows box.
[00:29] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:29] <etzer> when I hold down the shift key a the EFI menu pop up and from there I can choose ubuntu and the grub menu shows again. but if i just let it boot it went straight to windows
[00:29] <xpistos> I'm really new to using samba so I added the share like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16072871/
[00:29] <o11c> etzer: you need to rerun grub-install
[00:29] <EriC^^> etzer: ok, do that and boot ubuntu
[00:29] <xpistos> but when I try to connect, I can't authenticate on the windows side. Does it have something to do with not having a domain?
[00:30] <etzer> o11 what it the command to rerun grub-install?
[00:32] <xpistos> Hey guys. I'm really new to using samba so I added the share on my ubuntu box like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16072871/
[00:32] <xpistos> but I cannot authenticate
[00:32] <reisio> etzer: typically: grub-install /dev/sda
[00:32] <xpistos> sorry about double posting, hot keys.
[00:32] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: yep
[00:32] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: ok, sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[00:34] <terratoma> nacc: this guy runs a lot of things in late command ! http://serverfault.com/questions/390122/how-do-i-pipe-commands-together-in-a-debian-preseed-file
[00:34] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: bad api request
[00:35] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:35] <Jordan_U> etzer: reisio: For UEFI it would simply be "sudo grub-install", for UEFI there is no device argument.
[00:36] <reisio> Jordan_U: oh yeah? What about for old world macs?
[00:36] <robotdevil1> EriC^^:  .com/eahe
[00:37] <robotdevil1> that one is way better since the address is shorter
[00:39] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: I created 678
[00:40] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[00:40] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: there is a HP recovery partition on there and the normal windows 8 partitions
[00:40] <EriC^^> then sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:41] <mattfly> hello
[00:41] <EriC^^> the hp recovery partition still worked as usual even after you installed ubuntu?
[00:41] <mattfly> i need some help with downloading torrents with transmission from terminal
[00:41] <mattfly> using magnetics links
[00:42] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/benq
[00:43] <mattfly> anyone?
[00:44] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: type sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[00:44] <reisio> mattfly: for like a one-off download
[00:44] <reisio> mattfly: or do you want to manage lots of torrents?
[00:45] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: k
[00:45] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:47] <iulhk> hi
[00:47] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/0sgl
[00:48] <iulhk> using ubuntu 16 whatever i am going to install with apt-get i am getting these kind of errors "http://paste.ubuntu.com/16073059/"?
[00:49] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: it's installed in legacy mode, needs to be uefi, do you want to convert it or just reinstall?
[00:49] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: is it hard to convert??
[00:50] <EriC^^> no pretty easy
[00:50] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: I like learning but I kinda at my end with this EFI, I have avoided it like the plage for a few years now lol
[00:50] <EriC^^> you'll have a good grasp by the end
[00:51] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: sure if you could be kind to lend your time :)
[00:51] <robotdevil1> convert
[00:51] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: ok
[00:51] <default23456> hello
[00:52] <Androit> I have an 14.04 LTS server running in a VPS remotely. I have zero physical access and the server load is maxed out on reboot. We suspect it's Apache, but how can you boot the VPS without any init scripts loading HTTPD?
[00:52] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: first make sure you're booted in uefi mode in the live usb, type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[00:53] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: will I be able to stay in the live session, not likely hey?
[00:53] <robotdevil1> would save me going back and forth between computers
[00:54] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: you'll be in the live session for the whole time until rebooting to test it
[00:54] <default23456> ((̲̅ ̲̅(̲̅C̲̅r̲̅a̲̅y̲̅o̲̅l̲̲̅̅a̲̅( ̲̅((>
[00:55] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: ok maybe ill go on there, what am I looking for in /sys/
[00:55] <zykotick9> iulhk: first have are you getting errors during an update "sudo apt update"?  and have you run one yet?  did you upgrade to 16.04?  what version does "apt list runit" show?
[00:55] <default23456> test
[00:55] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: /sys/firmware/efi , if the dir exists then you're good
[00:55] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: if not, reboot the live usb in uefi mode
[00:55] <default23456>      )
[00:55] <robotdevil1> EriC^^:  ya it lists things
[00:55] <default23456>      )
[00:55] <default23456>      (
[00:55] <default23456>       )
[00:55] <default23456>  __.--(--.
[00:55] <default23456> || |     |
[00:55] <default23456>  \\|     |
[00:56] <MisterSanderson> Hello.
[00:56] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: hey im here
[00:56] <Sebastien> default23456 this is not the place for that
[00:57] <EriC^^> robotdevilll: ok, type sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi
[00:57] <MisterSanderson> My netbook has a maximum screen resolution of 1366x768, but I'm getting only 1024x600 after installing Ubuntu 16.04. Why?
[00:57] <Androit> Ahh the early days of IRC.. ASCII art.. bans.. channel wars..  Memories..
[00:57] <default23456> srry
[00:57] <default23456> was just testing
[00:57] <robotdevilll> yep EriC^^
[00:58] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: sudo blkid /dev/sda2
[00:58] <Androit> If someone has any insight I'd love it.. I'll check back shortly.. I'm finally getting some food after hours of cursing. Starting to accept my fate.. :(
[00:58] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: get the UUID and type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab
[00:59] <EriC^^> add an entry like this
[00:59] <EriC^^> UUID=9094-CDF4  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[00:59] <EriC^^> (with your actual uuid)
[01:04] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: ok
[01:06] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[01:06] <EriC^^> type the whole line
[01:07] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: starting at for?
[01:07] <EriC^^> yes
[01:08] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: k
[01:09] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: sudo chroot /mnt
[01:09] <EriC^^> then mount -a
[01:10] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: k
[01:10] <the_fly> hi all, i have a bit of an emergency, i was moving files from my laptop to a disk that's in a caddy which was accidentally powered off
[01:10] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: try ls /boot/efi
[01:10] <EriC^^> is there an EFI dir there?
[01:10] <the_fly> it was all one folder being moved, and now on the caddy drive i dont see the folder
[01:10] <the_fly> after turning it back on
[01:11] <MisterSanderson> Can someone please help me with my screen resolution?
[01:11] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: yes
[01:11] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: ok, type apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[01:11] <the_fly> i dont remember whether i hit cancel or skip after the move failed
[01:12] <the_fly> this is ubuntu 14.04, and i really need to recover the data, if anyone can help i would be eternally grateful
[01:12] <MisterSanderson> Next question:
[01:12] <MisterSanderson> On Ubuntu 16.04, I can't make Deluge be the default application for opening magnet links on Firefox. How do I do this?
[01:12] <the_fly> Ntfsundelete?
[01:13] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: k Im at the ncurses config utility
[01:14] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: what's it asking?
[01:14] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: keep local version
[01:14] <EriC^^> sure
[01:15] <robotdevilll> for /etc/default/grub
[01:15] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: press keep
[01:15] <ash_workz> I know this is a bash question, but I figure it's pretty straight forward and quick: is there a typical exit status for "invalid arguments" ?
[01:15] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: k
[01:17] <hehnope> In 16.04 I have NFS mount with _netdev option; but on reboot it seems like systemd is ignoring _netdev and still trying to mount eventhough network is not available. Is this known issue?
[01:17] <bleomycin> does anyone know why tab completion doesnt work for systemctl on 16.04?
[01:17] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: all done
[01:17] <the_fly> can anyone please help, is there an explanation as to why files are missing in an interrupted move operation, made from the GUI desktop
[01:18] <the_fly> it looks like the whole folder is not even there
[01:18] <the_fly> and the files are missing on the source device
[01:18] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: ok, efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:18] <the_fly> i need recover these, very badly
[01:19] <default23456> 1
[01:19] <robotdevilll> http://termbin.com/6aub EriC^^
[01:19] <gde33> it would be nice if the settings window could be resized, under keyboard > navigation all lines are trunkated to "move window to wo..."
[01:20] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: it didn't add ubuntu there
[01:20] <gde33> I can make out only "switch to workspace 1-9"
[01:20] <robotdevilll> EriC^^: i see that
[01:21] <the_fly> extundelete will have to do
[01:21] <gde33> (because I've changed the font to be larger)
[01:21] <hehnope> http://pastebin.com/jWKVcQnZ ; but if I run `mount -a` after logging (network is avail.) mounts without issue.
[01:21] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: try efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 2 -d /dev/sda
[01:22] <markerz18> hey guys, so I have a question here.  Just installed ubuntu few days ago and for the first time plugged in earbuds.  The sound however keeps only playing on external speakers even though it says "headphones" in the sound settings for "output". Can someone please help assist me in this issue?
[01:23] <markerz18> a long time ago I also had this issue but dont remember how i fixed it. something with pulseaudio
[01:23] <Androit> the_fly: A move is a copy + delete. The delete command occurs after so the situation you're describing is odd.
[01:24] <EriC^^> Androit: no a move just changes where the file is in the directories, the data is never actually copied
[01:24] <EriC^^> that's why it's instantaneous
[01:25] <EriC^^> the_fly: ^
[01:25] <Androit> the_fly: At least assuming different disks... best guess is that the machine was writing to disk from cache and you actually managed to nail it between finishing the write and sending the delete command.
[01:25] <EriC^^> ah, it was between different disks?
[01:26] <Androit> Yeah he said it was to an external disk caddie that was powered down too soon?
[01:26] <Androit> Still the old file won't be harmed if you can undelete quickly enough.
[01:27] <the_fly> I dont understand
[01:27] <the_fly> it was gigabytes
[01:27] <the_fly> of stu
[01:27] <Androit> It's just marked as 'deleted'
[01:27] <the_fly> stuff
[01:27] <the_fly> extundelete didn't find it
[01:27] <the_fly> i cant find it on the disk
[01:27] <Androit> It will be overwritten with fresh data as you use it.
[01:27] <the_fly> its gone on the source disk :(
[01:27] <the_fly> im not going to try extundelete on the source disk, because yes i have things downloading that have already probably trashed it
[01:27] <the_fly> or large chunks of it
[01:27] <the_fly> but the destination disk, in the caddie, why has this happened
[01:28] <Androit> No the dest file is not done. It has no file table entry.. The source disk has the file, but flagged as deleted, so you cannot see it without scanning.
[01:28] <the_fly> why didn't it create the folder
[01:28] <the_fly> i was moving one big folder
[01:28] <the_fly> surely it creates and populates with the subfolders/files incrementally
[01:28] <the_fly> copying then deleting afterwards
[01:28] <the_fly> whatever the case, powering off a caddie should not result in this
[01:28] <Androit> Yep. That's been my experience.
[01:29] <the_fly> ive lost a lot of footage
[01:29] <the_fly> and ive no idea where it has gone
[01:29] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: sorry this machine disconnected somehow
[01:29] <Androit> And yes, it's some odd issue or amazing timing. Buy a lotto ticket while you scan for the file?
[01:29] <robotdevil1> one sec
[01:29] <gde33> I cant get any key to "switch application", what am I doing wrong?
[01:29] <the_fly> Androit: scan for file? ive used extundelete
[01:29] <EriC^^> the_fly: it's in the source disk still, just don't use it and only mount it as read-only til you're done with the data you need
[01:29] <the_fly> it doesn't find it
[01:29] <the_fly> the source disk has been used
[01:30] <Androit> The source drive only.. It will have some traces .. it's too big to have been overwritten?
[01:30] <the_fly> i had transmission downloading some stuff
[01:30] <the_fly> but sure, ther could be a lot left if i try to recover
[01:30] <EriC^^> the_fly: what filesystem was it being moved from?
[01:30] <robotme> EriC^^: ok im back
[01:30] <the_fly> ext4 to ext4
[01:31] <the_fly> i was moving because the disk was full
[01:31] <EriC^^> robotme: ok, try the
[01:31] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: try efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 2 -d /dev/sda
[01:31] <EriC^^> the_fly: ext4 is hard to recover afaik
[01:31] <Androit> Ow!
[01:31] <Kramerboy> Hello, I am using nvidia-prime on an Optimus laptop and I am only able to run games at 1920x1080 in full screen. However I can see other resolutions in Displays. Is there a limitation to using dGPU directly thru PRIME?
[01:31] <the_fly> and if i try to extundelete that might not even work
[01:31] <the_fly> EriC^^: but why did it break in the first place
[01:31] <the_fly> it looks like it hasn't even created the folder on the destination drive
[01:31] <the_fly> all this was, was an accidental power of
[01:31] <the_fly> *off
[01:32] <the_fly> this shouldn't result in loss of several minutes worth of data transfer
[01:32] <the_fly> extundelete doesn't find it
[01:32] <the_fly> on the destination dis
[01:32] <Androit> Personally I'd consider the destination a loss. Partial write is bad. Undelete should recover more.
[01:32] <the_fly> *disk
[01:32] <the_fly> but the cache would have been flushed
[01:32] <the_fly> it's GIGS of data
[01:32] <EriC^^> the_fly: a good bet is photorec
[01:32] <robotme> EriC^^: it says ubuntu at the bottom
[01:32] <the_fly> photorec?
[01:33] <the_fly> these are .MOVS
[01:33] <Androit> Yeah, if it's video/image data you might get lucky.. having corruption there isn't as life ending as other binaries. ;)
[01:33] <EriC^^> the_fly: yeah, it takes file headers and searches the whole disk for files of those type
[01:33] <the_fly> okay i'll give it a shot
[01:33] <robotme> EriC^^: Boot0004* ubuntu
[01:33] <EriC^^> the_fly: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[01:34] <the_fly> thanks
[01:34] <the_fly> i'll see how it goes
[01:34] <the_fly> still very confusing
[01:34] <the_fly> why it doesn't commit to disk
[01:34] <the_fly> the changes incrementally
[01:34] <the_fly> at least creation of folder/subfolders/files
[01:34] <EriC^^> the_fly: i'd not use the system at all til you get the files back, especially if it's almost full
[01:35] <robotme> both of those apps he recommends have save stuff for me :-) it took a min for me to figure it out was worth it
[01:35] <the_fly> too late
[01:35] <the_fly> the thing was downloading whilst i was moving
[01:35] <EriC^^> the_fly: further use
[01:35] <Androit> I have an 14.04 LTS server running in a VPS remotely. I have zero physical access and the server load is maxed out on reboot. We suspect it's Apache, but how can you boot the VPS without any init scripts loading HTTPD? Best suggestion is to mount the VPS drive on another running VPS and edit the files there. Sadly I'm not sure the admins hosting this machine will take on the work. I'd love a...
[01:35] <Androit> ...more simple fix..
[01:36] <EriC^^> robotme: type exit and try restarting
[01:37] <robotme> EriC^^: ok brb
[01:38] <the_fly> photorec (from apt) seems to not support ext4
[01:38] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: it booting windows
[01:39] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: ok, no worries, boot the live usb again
[01:39] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: will the position of the EFI matter?
[01:39] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: the partition?
[01:40] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: the bios
[01:40] <EriC^^> yeah, it has to be in uefi mode
[01:40] <robotdevil1> well windows was reinstalled in legacy mode though, no??
[01:41] <EriC^^> no, it's in uefi mode i guess
[01:42] <robotdevil1> oh boy, ok so I should switch it then?
[01:43] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: you want secure boot and non - legacy mode on?
[01:44] <EriC^^> when windows was booting fine what was the bios set to?
[01:44] <benfitzpatrick> hi everyone
[01:44] <Kramerboy> hello
[01:44] <glass> what is the go to terminal nowadays
[01:45] <benfitzpatrick> i am looking to install Ubuntu on my macbook im not a linux noob i've used linux since 8.04 and etc. BUT i have a macbook 2015 and wanted to know the best method to setup ubuntu on it?
[01:45] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: this is what I mean, it boot either darn way
[01:45] <benfitzpatrick> just curious
[01:45] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: it's in uefi mode right now i'd guess, i don't think windows 8 supports gpt + legacy
[01:45] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: ok
[01:45] <benfitzpatrick> because i didnt find a guide somewhere on google or etc.
[01:46] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: set it to uefi, disable secureboot
[01:47] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: ok one sec
[01:48] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: ok then boot usb?
[01:49] <EriC^^> eyah
[01:49] <EriC^^> yeah
[01:51] <Kramerboy> I am using nvidia-prime on an Optimus laptop and can only run games at 1920x1080. It seems that the games only detect the native resolution, however I see the other resolutions in Displays. Is this a limitation to using the dGPU directly with nvidia-prime?
[01:53] <pitiye> any proven wubi like install for ubuntu ?
[01:54] <robotdevil1> EriC^^:  k
[01:54] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[01:54] <EriC^^> sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:55] <reisio> pitiye: can't you still use wubi?
[01:55] <pitiye> reisio: i am on 15.04
[01:55] <reisio> pitiye: then you already have ubuntu installed
[01:56] <pitiye> reisio: yah i want to fresh install 16.04
[01:56] <reisio> why's that
[01:56] <pitiye> reisio:  i tried lubi and it didnt work !
[01:56] <pitiye> reisio: installation process of 16.04 made my laptop to overheat and shutdown
[01:57] <reisio> mm, that's unlikely
[01:57] <reisio> but your laptop not being very well made is possible
[01:58] <pitiye> reisio:  it never heats up on 15.04
[01:59] <Androit> Kramer: Have you tried consulting the Matrix of Leadership?
[01:59] <Kramerboy> Androit: What do you mean?
[02:00] <somsip> !behelpful | Androit
[02:00] <twh> hi
[02:01] <robomee> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/1eabx
[02:01] <EriC^^> robomee: in the bios, is there anything about trusting an efi boot or changing the boot order there?
[02:02] <EriC^^> robomee: which hp model is this?
[02:02] <robomee> EriC^^: not much
[02:02] <robomee> one sec
[02:03] <Androit> Hey! It always worked for the Autobots?! :)
[02:04] <robomee> hp 15 notebook pc 2213 EriC^^
[02:04] <mike-drummer> Apparently my /boot is full, how do I fix this?
[02:04] <somsip> mike-drummer: delete old kernels
[02:04] <mike-drummer> somsip it wont let me
[02:05] <somsip> mike-drummer: too full to sudo apt-get install -f
[02:05] <somsip> ?
[02:05] <EriC^^> robomee: ok, try sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[02:06] <pitiye> when i say update-grub i see this line - Found Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (16.04) on /dev/sda11, but after reboot i dont see that line to select , does this mean i have two grub-installations ? if so how do i remove the unnecessary one ?
[02:07] <EriC^^> pitiye: maybe grub from the different os is booting instead
[02:07] <somsip> mike-drummer: what do you mean it won't let you? What error do you get?
[02:07] <EriC^^> try grub-install to have the current os's grub boot instead
[02:07] <pitiye> EriC^^: probably,  how to pinpoint it ?
[02:08] <mike-drummer> somsip http://pastebin.com/rDzBCGGV
[02:08] <somsip> mike-drummer: gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[02:08] <somsip> mike-drummer: so, a few steps. First do uname -r to find out what kernel you are using
[02:09] <pitiye> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/jKdBfYRy
[02:09] <mike-drummer> somsip 4.2.0-36-generic
[02:09] <somsip> mike-drummer: and ls -la /usr/src/linux-headers-*
[02:10] <robomee> EriC^^: was ount the last thing ??
[02:11] <EriC^^> pitiye: i'd sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[02:11] <robomee> mount*sorry its getting busy in house
[02:11] <EriC^^> robomee: last thing was sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[02:11] <robomee> EriC^^: done
[02:12] <EriC^^> robomee: sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi{,.backup}
[02:12] <mike-drummer> somsip http://pastebin.com/YvQnJipz
[02:13] <pitiye> EriC^^: sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda Installing for i386-pc platform. Installation finished. No error reported.
[02:13] <somsip> mike-drummer: pick one that is definitely not in use (so, not *36 - so maybe 31) and sudo rm -rf usr/src/linux-headers-4.2.0-31/* && sudo rm -rf usr/src/linux-headers-4.2.0-31-generic/*
[02:13] <robomee> EriC^^: no such file or dir
[02:13] <glass> <---after installing terminator (is there a better one?) how do i make sure its my "default" terminal?
[02:13] <somsip> mike-drummer: so we remove the contents of the dir, not the dir itself which would confuse apt-get
[02:14] <EriC^^> robomee: sorry
[02:14] <EriC^^> getting late here, my bad
[02:14] <EriC^^> robomee: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi{,.backup}
[02:15] <robomee> EriC^^: done
[02:15] <EriC^^> robomee: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}
[02:15] <robomee> EriC^^: thanks hey, i know it makes me wanna throw out everything hp :p
[02:15] <mike-drummer> somsip tried it and df says /boot is still full
[02:16] <EriC^^> robomee: heh :D
[02:16] <somsip> mike-drummer: try rm'ing another old, dead kernel. I had this yesterday on some servers and had to remove 2 kernels and -generic to free up enough space
[02:16] <robomee> EriC^^: done
[02:16] <glass> <---after installing terminator (is there a better one?) how do i make sure its my "default" terminal?
[02:17] <EriC^^> robomee: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[02:17] <travis_> meshmixer can't install due to uninstallable dependences on 16.04 but Linux Mint it will install the depends and works fine. Anybody know how to correct this?
[02:17] <glass> keepassx is a good password manager for linux yes?
[02:18] <robomee> EriC^^: same error
[02:18] <EriC^^> robomee: on which file?
[02:18] <EriC^^> hm
[02:18] <mike-drummer> somsip doesn't seem to be doing anything, tried 31, 32 and 33
[02:18] <elky> glass: it's a commonly used one, yes. you can also install something like keepassdroid and have a copy of your password file on your phone
[02:19] <EriC^^> robomee: try ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:19] <robomee> EriC^^: shimx64.efi
[02:19] <Slade> did CUDA support die at 14.10 ?
[02:19] <somsip> mike-drummer: hang on - you say /boot is full? then that needs tidying, not /usr/src
[02:19] <EriC^^> robomee: that's odd
[02:20] <mike-drummer> somsip /boot reports /dev/sda1          240972    233912          0 100% /boot
[02:20] <somsip> mike-drummer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171209/my-boot-partition-hit-100-and-now-i-cant-upgrade-cant-remove-old-kernels-to
[02:20] <robomee> EriC^^:http://termbin.com/s51v
[02:22] <EriC^^> robomee: ubuntu seems to be missing
[02:22] <EriC^^> robomee: sudo umount /mnt
[02:22] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[02:23] <robomee> EriC^^: done
[02:24] <EriC^^> robomee: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[02:24] <robomee> EriC^^: done
[02:25] <EriC^^> robomee: sudo chroot /mnt
[02:25] <EriC^^> mount -a
[02:25] <robomee> mount -a
[02:25] <robomee> oops
[02:25] <EriC^^> :D
[02:25] <robomee> done
[02:26] <EriC^^> robomee: apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[02:29] <robomee> EriC^^: done
[02:30] <EriC^^> robomee: ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu
[02:31] <robomee> EriC^^: /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu: No such file or directory
[02:32] <EriC^^> robomee: is apt get mentioning any errors?
[02:32] <robomee> EriC^^: no
[02:33] <EriC^^> robomee: try dpkg -l | grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:33] <robomee> are you in this channel often??
[02:33] <EriC^^> robomee: try dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:33] <EriC^^> robomee: yes
[02:34] <robomee> EriC^^: says rub not installed
[02:34] <robomee> grub*
[02:35] <EriC^^> try the second command
[02:35] <EriC^^> the first had a typo
[02:36] <robomee> http://termbin.com/h8ji
[02:37] <EriC^^> robomee: try grub-install
[02:38] <robomee> EriC^^: Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[02:38] <robomee> grub-install.real: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[02:38] <timdotrb> Evening, all
[02:38] <EriC^^> robomee: hmm i think i know what it is
[02:38] <EriC^^> robomee: type nano /etc/fstab
[02:39] <EriC^^> remove the umask=007 next to /boot/efi
[02:39] <robomee> so delete umask=007
[02:39] <EriC^^> try to replace it with defaults
[02:40] <robomee> EriC^^: hey wasnt there supposed to be a 0 and a 1?
[02:40] <archonii> I'm on 16.04, having upgraded from 15.10 seemingly without issue.
[02:40] <EriC^^> robomee: yeah at the end
[02:40] <robomee> EriC^^: I end at umask
[02:40] <EriC^^> robomee: are you sure?
[02:41] <robomee> EriC^^: positive
[02:41] <robomee> just full screened it
[02:41] <hrob> sorry off topic, I just want to know how I can ask to be invited to an invite only channel?
[02:41] <hrob> freenode channel is down - not giving voice
[02:41] <EriC^^> no $ at the end?
[02:42] <reisio> hrob: sure it's not just a redirect?
[02:42] <reisio> to the same channel with another #?
[02:42] <somsip> !freenode | hrob
[02:42] <EriC^^> add them
[02:42] <reisio> hrob: /msg chanserv access #channel list
[02:42] <robomee> EriC^^: I know what you mean by the wrap
[02:42] <reisio> probably just a redir/block, though
[02:43] <robomee> EriC^^: UUID=B0D2-1B5D                           /boot/efi         vfat      umask=0077      0    1
[02:43] <reisio> probably your IRC client sucks
[02:43] <hrob> reisio:   the channel is #aws
[02:43] <hrob> not redirect I think
[02:43] <reisio> given you're using qwebirc, I'm sure it sucks
[02:43] <timdotrb> I’m having an issue with ufw in Ubuntu 14.04. I’m attempting to allow port 9292 from a local VPS to VPS, but for some reason it’s not working. The rules are there on ufw status, and I can ssh from VPS to VPS, but port 9292 is being denied
[02:43] <reisio> hrob: yes it is
[02:43] <reisio> you want ##aws
[02:43] <robomee> EriC^^: I just added the 0 and 1
[02:43] <hrob> reisio:  oh,
[02:43] <reisio> you can thank either the clowns in ##aws or the clowns in #####freenode for that particular mess
[02:43] <reisio> or both
[02:43] <hrob> I kept being redirected to namespace, confused me
[02:43] <reisio> ## is indisputably freenode clownishness
[02:44] <reisio> but someone in ##aws probably originated #aws and then moved it
[02:44] <hrob> tx
[02:44] <reisio> as to your original question, in the unlikely event you'd need it, again:
[02:44] <reisio> /msg chanserv access #channel list
[02:45] <EriC^> robomee: sorry, i got disconnected
[02:45] <EriC^> robomee: add them at the end, then sudo umount /boot/efi
[02:45] <EriC^> *without sudo, then mount -a
[02:48] <EriC^^> ok
[02:48] <cyberpunk21> Hey! Is it safe to upgrade from kde 15.10 to the latest 15.12? Is this going to change my current settings (completely)?
[02:50] <Lope> I'm trying to compile the trusty kernel. Using this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel I'm at the part where I run `fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs` and I've got 43 pass and 2 fail. "check-config: FAIL: (flavour powerpc-smp" and "check-config: FAIL: (flavour powerpc-smp powerpc-e500" ... how can I exclude these powerPC architectures?
[02:51] <Lope> I just want to compile amd64
[02:51] <archonii> cyberpunk21, UPGRADES are officially supported.
[02:51] <archonii> Go for it.
[02:51] <archonii> It's all been tested thoroughly.
[02:52] <cyberpunk21> thanks
[02:58] <ilpollo> hi, i need the spanish chanel , please ,thanks
[02:58] <davidmichaelkarr> I'm seeing issues creating desktop shortcuts on 16.04.  The icon and name aren't correct.
[02:59] <davidmichaelkarr> I was first creating the shortcut the same way I did on 15, but that didn't quite work in 16. I can't even just drag it from the app explorer.  The icon starts the application, but the name is just the full name of the file, including ".desktop", and the icon is generic, and they're all the same icon.
[03:19] <timdotrb> Anyone a ufw guru?
[03:20] <timdotrb> Still puzzling as to why I can’t get this port open
[03:20] <devuser> hi, i have a serious problem with php. i install and remove php beacuse i need php5 but ubuntu 16.04 supports php7
[03:21] <devuser> i install now php7 but a i have this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/16074253/
[03:21] <pitiye> i have two boot folders in two partitions , how do i remove one grub on a particular boot folder ?
[03:21] <CyanBlob> Hey guys, what is the best way to run a script when a user logs in that's guaranteed to run after X has started? Right now, I tried placing it in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, but it isn't getting run (it is executable, and the script works when I call it normally)
[03:21] <wdheideman> I have a question about ZFS on 16.04.  I have an external USB drive with PC-BSD installed on ZFS.  The automounting of this drive is problematic.  Under 15.10, I can export it and then re-import it with no problems.  Under 16.04 it is stuck in 'zpool is busy' and will not export.  It seems to be a question of timing of the automount, because if I have the drive unplugged on boot and plug it in after boot it works fine.  Can
[03:21] <wdheideman> someone help me with tracking down how to fix the timing of the automount?
[03:22] <CyanBlob> I can't add it to the startup applications (without some delay), because it won't be guaranteed to run after X has started
[03:23] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: hey did you get that message?? sorry people running around here, ill hit ya up if your not busy
[03:24] <robotdevil1> tomorrow
[03:34] <KiBi1_> ahh it's a wonderful day
[03:38] <devuser> i resolved thanks
[03:49] <default23456> test
[03:49] <default23456> test
[03:49] <default23456> test
[03:49] <default23456> hello?
[03:50] <rhorse> hello?
[03:50] <default23456> hey there
[03:50] <Bashing-om> !test | default23456
[03:50] <rhorse> hehe
[03:56] <default23456>  
[04:03] <_44trent3> hey, so I deleted my Ubuntu partition earlier...however I did it...very wrong
[04:03] <rhorse> heh
[04:03] <reisio> _44trent3: gj
[04:03] <rhorse> e
[04:04] <_44trent3> i don't have a windows 7 repair DVD, how can I like, restore my MBR
[04:04] <reisio> _44trent3: from an ubuntu live OS
[04:04] <reisio> ms-sys -7
[04:05] <_44trent3> yeah
[04:05] <_44trent3> i'm on a liveusb of ubuntu 16.04
[04:05] <reisio> https://launchpad.net/~lenski/+archive/ubuntu/ms-sys
[04:06] <_44trent3> so ms-sys will get rid of grub and restore my MBR?
[04:07] <_44trent3> i mean the only other solution I can think of is to well, dual boot Windows and ubuntu and then do it properly...
[04:08] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: Yes, though I personally tend to use install-mbr because the invocation is simpler.
[04:08] <_44trent3> yep it should
[04:09] <_44trent3> alright, i'm just going to do ms-sys, i've already spent an hour and half trying to boot my USB...and then I had the "brilliant" realization that the reason it wasn't booting was because it was a uefi USB key
[04:11] <__raven_> hi
[04:12] <magento_rocks> hi
[04:12] <__raven_> 16.04 xfce: mouse cursor invisible after screen lock and unlock... how to recover that?
[04:12] <_44trent3> okay, so I added the ppa...how do I install ms-sys? i tried sudo apt install ms-sys and it told me it wasn't found
[04:13] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: Stop. You shouldn't have added any ppa.
[04:13] <_44trent3> ...oops
[04:13] <_44trent3> what was i actually supossed to do?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: sudo apt install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sdX
[04:15] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: Where "sdX" is replaced with the *drive* in question, like "sda" *not* a partition like "sda1".
[04:15] <o11c> _44trent3: FYI, command-not-found can tell you the package name (mbr) if you only know the command name (install-mbr)
[04:15] <_44trent3> alright
[04:16] <_44trent3> so "sudo install-mbr /dev/sda"? after "sudo apt install mbr"?
[04:17] <_44trent3> and then I just reboot and windows should work right?
[04:18] <_44trent3> wouldn't boot-repair work just as well?
[04:21] <_44trent3> eh, i'll just do the command you provided me and then reboot
[04:21] <_44trent3> sda should be right, considering fdisk -l shows sda as my 931GiB WD blue
[04:22] <_44trent3> it could not find the package mbr
[04:22] <_44trent3> uggh
[04:23] <n-iCe> looks ok? search --no-floppy --fs-uuid <drive_UUID> --set root
[04:23] <n-iCe> or what can I use in grub to obtain the disk uuid?
[04:23] <n-iCe> or label?
[04:24] <_44trent3> literally everything i try isn't working
[04:24] <_44trent3> it cannot find anything by the name of mbr
[04:25] <_44trent3> i don't understand, mbr should be a thing
[04:27] <_44trent3> uh...
[04:28] <_44trent3> was the package name supossed to be install-mbr?! or just mbr?
[04:29] <_44trent3> I JUST WANT TO FIX THIS PROBLEM AND NOBODY IS REPLYING TO ME
[04:29] <_44trent3> I don't even think the Ubuntu repository is in here!
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !patience | _44trent3
[04:31] <_44trent3> uhm, my sources.list looks configured wrong. shouldn't it have a # before each repository?
[04:32] <n-iCe> _44trent3: no
[04:32] <n-iCe> remove all the #
[04:32] <_44trent3> there aren't any
[04:32] <n-iCe> before deb
[04:32] <n-iCe> of course
[04:32] <n-iCe> just before deb lines
[04:32] <n-iCe> like this
[04:32] <n-iCe> # newer versions of the distribution.
[04:32] <n-iCe> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted
[04:32] <_44trent3> it looks fine
[04:33] <n-iCe> good
[04:34] <_44trent3> why in the world is apt install not finding the mbr package Jordan_U told me to get
[04:34] <_44trent3> i kinda want to boot into my PC at some point
[04:34] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: You need to enable universe.
[04:34] <_44trent3> what's that?
[04:34] <n-iCe> _44trent3: remove all the # before deb lines
[04:34] <n-iCe> as I told you
[04:34] <n-iCe> then, sudo apt-get update
[04:35] <n-iCe> then install the package Jordan_U told you
[04:35] <_44trent3> alright, will do
[04:35] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt update
[04:36] <gambl0re> how do i check if my ubtuntu is 32 or 64 bit
[04:36] <_44trent3> alright, i enabled universe
[04:36] <gambl0re> nm
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: uname -a ?
[04:37] <_44trent3> okie dokie, it got mbr
[04:37] <SwedeMike> gambl0re: do "uname -a", if it has i386 in there, it's 32bit
[04:37] <orb> I have a server (on aws) running the previous LTS, and want to upgrade to the new LTS (16.04).  Will I need to reboot?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | orb yes
[04:37] <gambl0re> Linux vbox 3.16.0-30-generic #40~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 15 17:43:14 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:37] <gambl0re> im guessing its 64 bit
[04:37] <SwedeMike> gambl0re: that's 64bit yes
[04:38] <_44trent3> i did "sudo install-mbr /dev/sda"
[04:38] <orb> Thanks, ubottu and lotuspsychje.
[04:38] <_44trent3> do I just reboot now, Jordan_U?
[04:38] <orb> I'll wait until July 21st, then.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> orb: for server surely recommended
[04:38] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: Yes.
[04:38] <_44trent3> alright
[04:38] <_44trent3> well, hope this works
[04:38] <orb> Awesome, thanks!
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> orb: you can install 16.04 on a testmachine if you wanna tryout?
[04:39] <orb> lotuspsychje: I'm pretty sure it'll work in general.
[04:39] <orb> I just want to minimize trouble with the running setup.
[04:40] <thehebs> hey i havent used ubuntu in a while
[04:40] <thehebs> but im building a new rig and want to dual boot
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> orb: ok good luck!
[04:40] <orb> I normally use Archlinux for my own stuff.  (I know, heretic.)  This is for a friend I'm helping out.
[04:40] <thehebs> is 64 bit still a bad idea or is it pretty well supported?
[04:40] <orb> thehebs: 64 has been the standard for a while now.
[04:40] <thehebs> k
[04:40] <orb> thehebs: by now it's say 32bit is less supported.
[04:40] <thehebs> k cool
[04:41] <orb> thehebs: (though that's about linux in general, I don't know details of ubuntu. ;)
[04:41] <default23456> ↵
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> thehebs: if your cpu is 64bit, use 64bit ubuntu
[04:43] <gambl0re> how do i install xampp? i already got the xampp-linux-x64-5.5.34-0-installer.run file
[04:43] <gambl0re> it sitting inside my /Downloads folder
[04:43] <Jordan_U> gambl0re: Do *not* install xampp, just do a normal LAMP installation.
[04:43] <Jordan_U> !lamp | gambl0re
[04:44] <gambl0re> ok i'll get lamp
[04:44] <orb> ubottu: as long as you use a language that starts with P. ;)
[04:45] <o11c> ubottu: but you're more intelligent than half the people in this channel!
[04:47] <rhorse> does anyone know what the current synaptics config file is, and where is it/should I create it?
[04:47] <gambl0re> alright got the Lamp instsall file
[04:47] <gambl0re> how do i install this thing?
[04:47] <gambl0re> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-lamp-on-ubuntu
[04:47] <Jordan_U> gambl0re: There is no "install file" to get. Follow the instructions on the page ubottu linked to.
[04:47] <Xark> Rub the side of it?
[04:48] <tosh_> What do u see when u close ur eyes?
[04:48] <o11c> zsh: command not found: eyes
[04:49] <Jordan_U> gambl0re: That guide is out of date. Again, follow the guide ubottu linked to instead.
[04:50] <gambl0re> if i do $ sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[04:50] <gambl0re> that automatically bundles php, apache, mysql correct?
[04:50] <reisio> that's what they say
[04:52] <default23456> hello
[04:52] <tosh_> Hello all
[04:52] <tosh_> Who use MATE DE?
[04:52] <reisio> 'maters
[04:53] <Jordan_U> tosh_: If you have a question please simply ask it. If anyone thinks they can help, they will.
[04:53] <default23456> hooray ubuntu
[04:53] <reisio> (they will think they can help) :p
[04:53] <bleomycin> does anyone know why tab completion doesnt work for systemctl on 16.04?
[04:55] <gambl0re> how do i exit nano gnu
[04:55] <gambl0re> it says ^X
[04:55] <somsip> gambl0re: CTRL-X
[04:55] <Jordan_U> gambl0re: '^' means Ctrl
[04:56] <gambl0re> i see.. thanks
[04:58] <thehebs> hrm shat
[04:58] <thehebs> just started watching some reviews on 16.04 and apparently theres no amd graphics support?
[04:59] <holden1977> hey guys, just one question. im going to install 16.04, is it enough if i use the guided partitioning scheme
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> thehebs: for now, use radeon or amdgpu drivers
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> holden1977: if thats how you want it sure :p
[05:00] <holden1977> i mean, do i need separate partitions for anything actually, is it maybe much safer
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> holden1977: depends what you mean by 'safer'
[05:01] <holden1977> What i mean, for everyday use, is it necessary to partition the disk into separate efi, /, /home & swap partitions?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> holden1977: ubuntu setup auto partition will do fine then :p
[05:02] <holden1977> and if so, on a 500gb disk, would it be ok if i give 500mb to efi, 40gb to /, rest to /home and 4gb to swap?
[05:02] <Jordan_U> holden1977: No, just EFI System Partition, /, and a swap partition (which guided partitioning will get you). Adding separate partitions for the most part just makes things difficult with no real advantage.
[05:03] <o11c> separate /home was the worst mistake I ever made
[05:03] <thehebs> lotuspsychje: so should i go with 14.04?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> holden1977: You don't need /home/ on a separate partition to be ble to re-install while preserving /home/.
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> thehebs: your choice mate
[05:04] <_44trent3> well. it turnt out i still needed the windows DVD. so i gave up and installed ubuntu on to my entire drive
[05:04] <_44trent3> now i'm going to reinstall windows now that i have access to an OS and not just a live ubuntu session
[05:04] <_44trent3> yeah, it's completely backwards what i'm doing but i don't really care anymore
[05:04] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: What did you need the Windows DVD for?
[05:05] <_44trent3> it just told me there was an error that needed to be fixed through that
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> thehebs: you could test a 16.04 liveusb for your graphics card? see if it goes well?
[05:05] <_44trent3> i wrote my windows key down some time ago so I have it and should be able to get an ISO from microsoft
[05:06] <_44trent3> no idea how to well...make a bootable windows usb though
[05:06] <_44trent3> least on ubuntu
[05:06] <_44trent3> i could make a windows 7 VM with the disk image and let the VM see my usb
[05:06] <thehebs> lotuspsychje: not yet
[05:06] <thehebs> mobo, cpu, and ram come tomorrow
[05:07] <thehebs> im wanting to game if possible
[05:07] <thehebs> i heard steam is available for linux now
[05:07] <reisio> yup
[05:07] <thehebs> can you play all games?
[05:07] <arrrghhh> hey all.  I have a raid1 array using mdadm, and I replaced a failed drive... but I forgot to remove the failed drive from mdadm before replacing it.  What can I do now to get the array back up and rebuilding with the new disk?
[05:07] <thehebs> and same quality as windows?
[05:07] <thehebs> like the division
[05:08] <_44trent3> well, i'm finishing this process tomorrow. i can't stay up all night trying to fix something that can wait until morning
[05:08] <_44trent3> the stupid part was 6 hours ago, if nothing had happend I'd have been playing GTA V instead of troubleshooting for 6 hours... :/
[05:08] <_44trent3> at least i know better in the future i guess
[05:10] <Jordan_U> thehebs: The division?
[05:11] <gamal> hi
[05:11] <thehebs> yea new post apocalyptic  third person rpg
[05:11] <gambl0re> i guess i got the lamp running...when i try to access mysql console using 'mysql -u root' i get ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[05:11] <gamal> :L
[05:11] <Jordan_U> thehebs: You can't play all games; The games still need to support GNU/Linux and not all do.
[05:11] <thehebs> ah
[05:12] <_44trent3> okay, what in the world...why in the name of sanity is Ubuntu using my USB drive as SWAP?!
[05:13] <_44trent3> uh...that's not supossed to happen
[05:13] <reisio> _44trent3: 'cause you told it, probs
[05:13] <_44trent3> i don't remember...what happens if I format it to NTFS?
[05:13] <reisio> you lose your extant swap partition is all
[05:13] <[Saint]> It gets formatted to NTFS.
[05:13] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: What makes you think that it's using your USB drive as swap? Do you have a swap partition on your USB drive?
[05:13] <[Saint]> Unsurprisingly.
[05:13] <_44trent3> well. my USB drive is 8GB
[05:13] <_44trent3> the SWAP is 8GB
[05:14] <hateball> _44trent3: "swapon -s" will tell you what's up
[05:14] <[Saint]> that's the only thing that lead you to that conclusion?
[05:14]  * [Saint] is willing to bet there's 4GB RAM
[05:14] <hateball> And if you have swap setup to your removable device for some reason, adjust /etc/fstab and remove the entry. Done.
[05:15] <_44trent3> i'm a bad assumer
[05:15] <_44trent3> in any case, I have 8GB of RAM
[05:16] <_44trent3> why does ubuntu think I remotely need that much SWAP? i'd probably need 1GB at the most, and i'd be fine with none at all tbh
[05:16] <[Saint]> hibernation.
[05:16] <_44trent3> eh, i guess
[05:16] <_44trent3> i normally just shut down
[05:16] <[Saint]> it needs to be able to write out the entire RAM state, assuming it's all in use.
[05:17] <hateball> _44trent3: If you never use hibernation, feel free to disable swap (or at least leave a little) and set vm.swappiness=10
[05:17] <_44trent3> alright
[05:17] <_44trent3> mmm, odd...very odd
[05:18] <[Saint]> it is?
[05:18] <_44trent3> no something totally unrelated
[05:18] <_44trent3> gparted isn't seeing the proper amount of space my USB drive has
[05:18] <_44trent3> it's 8GB, and gparted is only seeing 513MiB
[05:19] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[05:20] <_44trent3> wait what now i'm seeing it
[05:20] <_44trent3> after i did that
[05:20] <_44trent3> uhm, i'm pretty sure i was looking at unallocated space on my hard drive
[05:20] <_44trent3> *facepalm*
[05:20] <_44trent3> but, the USB key isn't showing up in the GUI part of gparted
[05:21] <_44trent3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16075002/
[05:21] <_44trent3> now i feel like a moron
[05:22] <_44trent3> i was in sda...not sdb
[05:22] <[Saint]> well, at least it was gparted, and not dd.
[05:23] <[Saint]> I can think of worse ways to get a disk handle wrong.
[05:23] <Blue1> yup there needs to be:  undodd
[05:23] <_44trent3> i can say for future reference, do not just delete ubuntu partitions in the disk management...do it the right way lol
[05:24] <o11c> which is why I always install from a mini.iso and physically remove it before it finishes booting
[05:24] <o11c> with mini.iso, the kernel and initrd are the *only* things that are needed
[05:25] <_44trent3> apparently UNetbootin does work with windows ISOs...so long as it's version 4.94
[05:25] <o11c> and once they are both in RAM ...
[05:25] <_44trent3> may as well make the USB bootable right now so when I get home tomorrow I can just, turn on PC, boot into USB and then do what I need to do
[05:26] <_44trent3> and then spend 3 hours redownloading my entire steam library and programs...
[05:26] <sid_> UNetbootin doesn't work correctly with Windows(not all)
[05:26] <_44trent3> not the latest version anyway
[05:26] <_44trent3> this tutorial says it works fine with unetbootin494
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> sid_: try universal usb installer
[05:27] <_44trent3> no, i think he was talking to me about unetbootin not working with windows ISOs
[05:27] <_44trent3> ...this kids, is why you ping who you're talking to
[05:29] <_44trent3> okay, why can't i open unetbootin? i made sure to allow it to be executed as a program
[05:29] <[Saint]> FWIW, you can just do "format to NTFS; dd image; make volume bootable" for Windows bootable USB volumes.
[05:29] <_44trent3> that works too i guess
[05:30] <_44trent3> well, how do i burn the image to the USB?
[05:30] <[Saint]> dd if=/path/to/image of=/path/to/usb
[05:31] <[Saint]> Hell, mount the image, and a plain old drag and drop works fine, too.
[05:32] <_44trent3> so i'd do "dd image=/home/trent/Downloads/windows7image.iso of=/dev/sdb1"?
[05:34] <_44trent3> i'll just copy the files right to the usb
[05:34] <ljhade24> Hi, is there linux application that can open erwin file?
[05:34] <_44trent3> what do i put in to make the volume bootable?
[05:35] <Apachez> _44trent3: along with bs=1M in the end to speed some things up
[05:35] <[Saint]> you can do that from gparted if you like GUI things
[05:36] <[Saint]> re: bootable flag
[05:37] <sid_> I'm sorry for delay, unetbootin it's almost same as yumi, I'm sorry maybe now it works correctly but earlier it was stuck when install on sume dlls
[05:37] <sid_> when need to install 7
[05:40] <rhorse> wow, I'm installing upgrade to Xenial and my vga console just dramatically changed resolution...
[05:41] <Jordan_U> rhorse: During the upgrade, or after rebooting into the upgraded system?
[05:42] <[Saint]> rhorse: my server's do that after a non-clean shutdown.
[05:42] <[Saint]> it's weird.
[05:42] <[Saint]> console text becomes GIANT until the next boot cycle.
[05:43] <Jordan_U> [Saint]: Do you have something configured to boot into the recovery mode entry after a failed boot or shutdown? Sounds like nomodeset to me.
[05:43] <[Saint]> Jordan_U: Nope.
[05:44] <[Saint]> It is for all intents and purposes "fine".
[05:44] <[Saint]> Just the text is an order of magnitude larger.
[05:45] <[Saint]> I kinda gave up trying to figure it out, to be honest.
[05:45] <[Saint]> There's no errors, nothing.
[05:46] <[Saint]> But I bet you if I walked over to my server right now and did a hard powerdown, then brought it back up, the text would be all screwy and giant until the next boot cycle.
[05:46] <[Saint]> I very rarely use the monitor in the server room anyway, so, meh.
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> [Saint]: what graphics card inside there?
[05:47] <rhorse> Jordan_U: [Saint] during upgrade...
[05:48] <Jordan_U> rhorse: Did it become a higher or lower resolution?
[05:48] <rhorse> [Saint]: yes, that's exactly what happened - large script
[05:48] <rhorse> Jordan_U: lower resolution. The upgrade still going on successfully
[05:50] <[Saint]> lotuspsychje: there isn't - server is server
[05:51] <[Saint]> Just HP's janky embedded controller.
[05:53] <[Saint]> rhorse: I wouldn't worry about it until you're done and we know if it persists.
[05:53] <[Saint]> with any luck it's the same transient oddity I see and it magically goes away next cycle.
[05:53] <[Saint]> the "Do I actually need to care about this?" school of debugging.
[05:54] <uxfi> yo
[05:54] <uxfi> anyone into network/sysadmin?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: is it ubuntu related?
[05:54] <uxfi> hmm
[05:54] <uxfi> yes
[05:54] <[Saint]> What's the question you actually want answered?
[05:54] <[Saint]> I bet that isn;t it.
[05:55] <uxfi> well
[05:55] <liceo-prova> !list
[05:55] <liceo-prova> ciao
[05:55] <uxfi> How do I manage to get VLC to run on Ubuntu so that I can record a stream if it plays remotely.Is there a way to get the sound?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: install vlc
[05:56] <uxfi> I have
[05:56] <[Saint]> I...wow
[05:56] <uxfi> I havent tested it out yet but was wondering if its possible to do
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: then enable advanced settings and youl see a record button
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: so anything showing on vlc, you can record
[05:57] <uxfi> ah
[05:57] <uxfi> lotuspsychje  and how will it capture audio? if the remote server has no audio input?
[05:57] <uxfi> because the other surce is the audio?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: if there's no audio, vlc cant record right
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: you will need to find another way to get the audio
[05:59] <jair> hello all, I am wondering how to make the new gnome 3.20.1 in 16.04 LTS to show the minimize and maximize buttons
[05:59] <uxfi> lotuspsychje  its a remote stream audio sream
[05:59] <uxfi> that I will record
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: perhaps the #videlan guys might know some tricks?
[05:59] <uxfi> ah
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> #videolan
[06:00] <daniel01> Hi everyone, asking about a lifetime problem, If you open Nautilus, and try to open the Network folder, it won't work. Anyone having the samep problem?
[06:00] <uxfi> gotcha
[06:01] <rhorse> ...cleaning up
[06:01] <rhorse> only took 30 min to upgrade this box...
[06:02] <[Saint]> Hmmm. I was going to make a crack about "lifetime problem", but, I guess it is possible that OP is 15 and has been using Nautilus since birth.
[06:02] <rhorse> ...removing old kernel...
[06:02] <uxfi> thans guys
[06:02] <mjibson> i've a macbook running 16.04. the wireless works fine when i use lightdm. when i switch to xdm and login, the wireless doesn't start. i've started NetworkManager by hand, but it won't connect to the wifi network. any hints?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> daniel01: CIFS shares site up fine there for me. Please give more detail about your configuration, what you expect to happen, and what happens instead
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> mjibson: wich network card chipset is that?
[06:03] <mjibson> broadcom 43602
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> mjibson: did you try a sudo service network-manager restart
[06:03] <mjibson> lotuspsychje: that was it. thanks.
[06:04] <mjibson> is there a way to see what services lightdm starts by default?
[06:04] <rhorse> ...restarting into new 16.04 system (keep fingers crossed)...
[06:05] <daniel01> Jordan_U: It's a clean install of 16.04 64-bit on my Acer Laptop, when I click the Network folder I expect that other computers in the network to show up, instead I get a: Failed to retrieve share list from...
[06:07] <Xark> daniel01: Hmm...that worked nicely for me.
[06:08] <Xark> (With a 14.04 Samba server and Win7-64 shares)
[06:08] <uxfi> hi Xark
[06:09] <Xark> uxfi: Hello.
[06:09] <daniel01> I don't have samba installed, I don't even have smbclient installed. Samba server is only if I want to share files, right?
[06:09] <C0r3> I've started using ubuntu 16.04 and I've noticed that whenever I restart my pc all my hidden files are visible.
[06:10] <Xark> daniel01: Well, network shares are often samba (but not only).  If you don't have that installed it could explain the message.
[06:10] <rhorse> Perfect upgrade! Nice! :)
[06:10] <[Saint]> rhorse: so - we're good?
[06:10] <daniel01> I tried to install smbclient only, and tried smbtree, empty list.
[06:11] <sam_yan> I want to use juju ,should I  install ubuntu for server?
[06:11] <rhorse> [Saint]: resolution still lower for the console, but very usable. Don't need to setfont to larger font... Yes, I LIKE!
[06:12] <nitish> I need to install latest version of handbrake but I am unable to find ppa.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !latest | nitish
[06:12] <nitish> How can I add ppa of handbrake?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> nitish: use the one from repos
[06:12] <nitish> lotuspsychje: unable to understand from handbrake.fr
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> nitish: sudo apt-get install handbrake
[06:13] <nitish> lotuspsychje: thats an old version.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nitish: that depends wich ubuntu version your on
[06:14] <nitish> I just want to add ppa and install handbrake
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nitish: we dont suggest ppa's
[06:15] <[Saint]> nitish: https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/ubuntu/handbrake-releases
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> nitish: if you want latest, contact the maintainer of the site
[06:15] <daniel01> I'll go and try to see if I can fix it by installing samba, thanks!
[06:15] <[Saint]> since you were getting nowhere.
[06:15] <[Saint]> "use the repo version" doesn't really help when you've already outlined why that isn't appropriate.
[06:16] <[Saint]> anywhere, there you go.
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | [Saint] see the risks
[06:16] <[Saint]> I'm aware of the risks.
[06:16] <[Saint]> Can't assume OP isn't either.
[06:16] <default23456> \quit
[06:19] <thunfisch> hey, having problems with a creative soundblaster audigy fx (sb1570) on 12.04 - I've finally got it to recognize the card, but it's not showing up in pulseaudio for the normal user, nor the usual alsa tools. however if i run the alsa tools with root privileges, i can see the card.
[06:19] <thunfisch> any ideas whats going wrong there? wiki says, in ubuntu you shouldn't need the audio group for users
[06:58] <Gnomethrower> Congrats on Ubuntu 16.04 for everyone who worked on it
[06:58] <havoc_hive> join linux
[07:12] <sam_yan> ubuntu16.04,there is no juju-quickstart
[07:12] <sam_yan> ?
[07:18] <darkelfjuggalo> Does anyone know why Pidgin was removed from Ubuntu Software4 Center?
[07:19] <xuhui_> What is the difference from ubuntu and zubuntu?
[07:20] <somsip> !info finch | darkelfjuggalo
[07:20] <somsip> darkelfjuggalo: new name by the look of it
[07:21] <darkelfjuggalo> Thank you...
[07:21] <somsip> xuhui_: zubuntu is for a specfic arch https://launchpad.net/zubuntu
[07:22] <darkelfjuggalo> I can't find finch either
[07:22] <somsip> darkelfjuggalo: what version are you on?
[07:22] <hateball> somsip: finch is/was cli, pidgin is gui
[07:22] <darkelfjuggalo> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:22] <somsip> hateball: ah - I didn't know. Can you enlighten darkelfjuggalo any more now I've confused him?
[07:23] <somsip> !info pidgin
[07:23] <somsip> darkelfjuggalo: so, it's available by the lok of it
[07:23] <hateball> somsip: Not really, I do not use the mentioned software any longer. Isnt Telepathy used for IM these days?
[07:23] <darkelfjuggalo> Command line install then
[07:23] <somsip> hateball: dunno - never got into them myself. IRC and Skype only here
[07:23] <somsip> darkelfjuggalo: that'll do it
[07:24] <hateball> If Ubuntu promotes use of Telepathy it makes sense it would not showcase Pidgin in the software center
[07:24] <hateball> Anyhow, I use KDE Plasma and no IM so who am I to say :p
[07:24] <kevin> hello
[07:24] <kevin> new to ubuntu
[07:25] <Guest94078> kevin
[07:25] <Guest94078> hello
[07:25] <darkelfjuggalo> I've come to rely on the software center too much becuase I have Typo errors too often in command line.
[07:26] <hateball> !tab | darkelfjuggalo
[07:27] <Caelum> I'm getting a core dump from 'appstreamcli' every time I do an apt-get update
[07:28] <jackmord> I need help in installing libapache2-mod-php5
[07:29] <somsip> jackmord: how so?
[07:30] <jackmord> Everytime I install it via "apt-get" it gives me these errors
[07:30] <somsip> !paste | jackmord
[07:35] <darkelfjugglo> ok, now that my pidgin error is fixed... I was trying to install a package group... and I ran my commands out of order by mistake... I can't just go run them in order to fix it... I need to remove everything associated with that Application and redo it. The link is a screenshot of the Commands i had to put in http://tinypic.com/r/2jazqy9/9
[07:38] <somsip> !ppa-purge | darkelfjugglo (might help)
[07:39] <darkelfjugglo> ok i also have to remove a Release key
[07:40] <somsip> darkelfjugglo: well, that'll just give you access to the PPA won't it? No big deal if it stays in there, especially if you're planning to reinstall from the ppa later
[07:42] <darkelfjugglo> ok I will try it... looking at the Image is posted... the Purge command would be sudo ppa-purge ppa: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/owncloud.list ?
[07:45] <somsip> darkelfjugglo: dunno - never used it. Try the bit ("if you do not know what PPAs you have installed" here http://askubuntu.com/questions/76932/i-think-a-ppa-update-broke-my-system-what-can-i-do?rq=1
[07:47] <darkelfjugglo> i attempted, worst case scenario is that it fails... i got this print out http://paste.ubuntu.com/16075762/
[07:50] <darkelfjugglo> it would help if i install ppa-purge
[07:52] <bishops> quick question to anyone who can help: Any ideas how to remedy a long booting time? When I start my laptop it takes a while before the ubuntu logo to appear. I'm just wondering what is the system looking for
[07:52] <ryan`> lol
[07:53] <ryan`> upgrading to 16.04 rmed my box or something
[07:53] <darkelfjugglo> Print out after ppa-purge im not sure i understand what it is telling me http://paste.ubuntu.com/16075797/
[07:54] <EriC^^> bishops: try pressing esc and it might show what it's looking for
[07:54] <bishops> EriC^^: ah thanks ok will do
[07:55] <EriC^^> ryan`: more info?
[07:55] <t4nk944>  while playing media i'm getting error as https://paste.kde.org/p2nizkdxj
[07:56] <ryan`> EriC^^: trying to get on KVM right now. Before rebooting it was spamming dmesg with this
[07:56] <ryan`> [29901.896696] init: Failed to spawn plymouth-upstart-bridge main process: unable to execute: No
[07:56] <ryan`> such file or directory
[07:56] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: i think you have a syntax error on the usage
[07:56] <darkelfjugglo> how can i check and correct it?
[07:57] <bipul> http://paste.ubuntu.net/16075814/ I was trying to compile dash source package, but i am getting error messages. And i don't see any .deb file in parent directory,only i can see dash_0.5.7-4ubuntu1_i386.build
[07:57] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: do you have the ppa-name/name ?
[07:59] <darkelfjugglo> I don't know. From the ubottu explanation, i assumed that was the Repository Source that I needed to purge, I don't know where the Sub-directory anything from that source went to...
[08:00] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: how did you add the ppa?
[08:01] <darkelfjugglo> The Source List was added Via copy and paste Command line for the source Host...
[08:01] <EriC^^> oh
[08:03] <darkelfjugglo> I tried to directly apt-get remove the application package, it found 5 relates and was only going to remove 1?
[08:03] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: i think ppa-purge has a way to use the ppa.list, check the man page
[08:03] <DaniG2k_> hello all
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[08:03] <DaniG2k_> https://m.do.co/c/1f20dd93eb01
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[08:05] <somsip> DaniG2k_: spam isn't welcome here. Please take it elsewhere
[08:05] <DaniG2k_> gotcha
[08:05] <DaniG2k_> didn't mean to spam
[08:05] <somsip> DaniG2k_: fair enough, but it's done now. No big deal
[08:06] <DaniG2k_> its $10 credit on DO
[08:06] <popey> dude
[08:06] <popey> this is a support channel, enough now
[08:06] <somsip> DaniG2k_: now you're making it worse... You were being sensible there for a moment
[08:08] <darkelfjugglo> the article shown to me about said to use this command to see the PPAs cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | grep ppa
[08:08] <darkelfjugglo>  but i got no print out
[08:08] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ .list file
[08:09] <darkelfjugglo> is that what should have printed out with the command listed above?
[08:09] <k1l> darkelfjugglo: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:09] <popey> darkelfjugglo: you have no ppas then?
[08:10] <darkelfjugglo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16075918/
[08:11] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: ok this the ppa's link deb http://download.owncloud.org/download/repositories/stable/xUbuntu_15.10/
[08:11] <walde> hi. I have a problem with debmirror2.25 and xenial. Even after the patch, the transition directory i18n is not being downloaded (even it is created in .tmp first). Any ideas? Currently I can use this mirror only with (Acquiretransitions: none).
[08:12] <k1l> darkelfjugglo: you installed from a 16.10 alpha iso, have the xenial repos and have added the 15.10 owncloud repo?
[08:15] <darkelfjugglo> k1l ; owncloud doesn't have a 16.04 yet... and I assume... I used the Download from Ubuntu.com Download page... and I installed using YUMI[ UUI and unetbootin failed] if any of that makes a difference... I can't had to manually format since 15.10 crashed before I knew how to fix the intel Graphics issue
[08:16] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: did you ever run sudo do-release-upgrade -d ?
[08:16] <darkelfjugglo> EriC^^ :  so that gives me all of the package names to remove?
[08:16] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: no, ppa-purge has an argument for using the url i believe
[08:16] <EriC^^> type man ppa-purge to check it out
[08:17] <darkelfjugglo> the crash was before 16.04 upgrade was released... and I have been too out of it to care to fix the computer for my dad[since the crash happened as a result of upgrading for his Flash player]
[08:19] <darkelfjugglo> if I understanbd this correctly then i need to Sudo ppa-purge -s and that Deb link? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16075967/
[08:20] <darkelfjugglo> <<sudo ppa-purge -s <File Name/URL> >>
[08:24] <tapki> hello
[08:24] <tapki> ru speak?
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> !ru | tapki
[08:26] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: yes try sudo ppa-purge -s http://download.owncloud.org/download/repositories/stable -p xUbuntu_15.10
[08:26] <EriC^^> maybe or maybe use the whole link with something after -p
[08:27] <darkelfjugglo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16076026/
[08:28] <darkelfjugglo> i don't know what to put after -p for the whole link
[08:29] <rp2> I just discovered a utility called hashdeep (in the md5deep package). Is anyone here using it? I'm wondering whether I shouldn't just use git instead.
[08:29] <SwedeMike> darkelfjugglo: <ppa:ppaowner>    what did you use when you added the ppa?
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> rp2: in most cases we suggest using the packages from official repos
[08:30] <darkelfjugglo> SwedeMike http://tinypic.com/r/2jazqy9/9 i added it from these commands
[08:30] <SwedeMike> darkelfjugglo: otherwise you just have to go in and look in the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and remove it by just removing the corresponding file in there
[08:31] <SwedeMike> darkelfjugglo: you can remove the file listed after the >> there
[08:31] <SwedeMike> in the sh -c line
[08:31] <EriC^^> SwedeMike: darkelfjugglo that won't remove the packages though
[08:31] <rp2> lotuspsychje: so do I. I mean, git also compares files against hashes, so instead of using hashdeep to create hashes for each file in a set and later compare them against the hash set, I can do that with git. So why use hashdeep?
[08:32] <rp2> s/against/using/
[08:32] <SwedeMike> darkelfjugglo: yea, EriC^^ is right, if you didn't use the add-apt-repository method then you can't use ppa-purge either.
[08:33] <Ezebe> Morning All - I'm a fairly longtime amateur tinkerer with Ubuntu, and always got by in the past on forums - never tried IRC before, so forgive me if I am unaware of etiquette asking questions! I was hoping for a quick straight answer about sudo vs gksu
[08:33] <darkelfjugglo> SwedeMike I can't delete them anyway
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> !gksu | Ezebe
[08:33] <darkelfjugglo> the system blacks that out
[08:33] <k1l> Ezebe: dont use sudo for gui
[08:34] <Jordan_U> rp2: Git stores the entire file's contents, so makes a lot of sense for /etc/ (see etckeeper which can use git) but doesn't make sense for directories containing large blobs like /usr/.
[08:34] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: try sudo ppa-purge -s sudo ppa-purge -s http://download.owncloud.org/download/repositories/stable/xUbuntu_15.10
[08:34] <ryan`> gksudo just shows a dialog box Ezebe
[08:34] <ryan`> there's no practical difference
[08:35] <ryan`> just a different password prompt
[08:35] <rp2> Jordan_U: hmm ... that's true
[08:35] <Ezebe> i was hoping to have a look at my sources.list file (though looking above i maybeshould be using apt-add repository!!).  Usually i like gedit as I'm not hardcore enough for vim or whatever.
[08:35] <rp2> thanks
[08:35] <k1l> ryan`: Ezebe that is not true
[08:35] <Ezebe> I had read that on forums, but it's no longer packaged with ubuntu base
[08:35] <EriC^^> SwedeMike: ppa-purge only works with ppa: ? there's some stuff in the man page seems ambiguous though http://paste.ubuntu.com/16076026/
[08:35] <Ezebe> seems strange that I have to install it....?
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> Ezebe: sudo apt-get install gksu
[08:35] <k1l> Ezebe: nano is a pretty straight forward cli editor
[08:35] <darkelfjugglo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16076056/
[08:36] <k1l> Ezebe: do you only want to look at it?
[08:36] <ryan`> ah looks like gksudo handles HOME etc
[08:36] <Ezebe> sometimes i need to tinker with things
[08:36] <rp2> yes vim is crazy, try nano or perhaps joe
[08:36] <EriC^^> darkelfjugglo: there's a typo
[08:36] <EriC^^> sudo .. then sudo ...
[08:36] <k1l> Ezebe: 3rd party repos and PPAs dont belong into the sources.list file
[08:38] <darkelfjugglo> i copyed what was on my screen
[08:38] <Ezebe> k1l i have realised that after erring in the past
[08:38] <xBlackyII> Hello. After installing git I get the following error message: http://pastebin.com/8P4tVAQw . Can anybody help me? Thanks.
[08:39] <darkelfjugglo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16076066/
[08:39] <SwedeMike> EriC^^: well, I don't see anything in that man page that indicates you can remove the kind of http url that darkelfjugglo had added.
[08:39] <Ezebe> did a clean install of 16.04 few days ago and been trying to install ruby / rails /git /rvm and run into some trouble with apt-get update giving me 404 errors, and wanted to check my repository lists
[08:40] <Ezebe> to make sure some scripts i had "newbie cut and pasted" hadn't messed them up
[08:40] <darkelfjugglo> and it is there twice... I can disable on in the sources.list but I can't remove either
[08:40] <k1l> Ezebe: "sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999" please run that in terminal and show the url
[08:41] <walde> hi. I have a problem with debmirror2.25 and xenial. Even after the transistion patch, the transition directory i18n is not being downloaded (even it is created in .tmp first). Any ideas? Currently I can use this mirror only with (Acquiretransitions: none).
[08:41] <Ezebe> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[08:41] <Ezebe> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/chris-lea/node.js/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[08:41] <Ezebe> http://termbin.com/4t5u
[08:42] <Ezebe> it's that chris-lea dude that seems to be causing me problems....
[08:43] <k1l> Ezebe: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" please run that in terminal and show the url
[08:43] <lenovo> Hello ! My laptop is t410. Installed Ubuntu 14.04, I have a sim card Gobi 2000, the drivers do not connecting, I'm asking for help
[08:43] <Ezebe> i wondered if he hadn't made a proper ppa for xenial yet, or something? (newbie guess)
[08:44] <Ezebe> http://termbin.com/h81s
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Ezebe
[08:44] <Jakey3> is there a way to change the desktop tabs order in lubuntu?
[08:45] <Ezebe> !addppa
[08:45] <Ezebe> !ppa-purge
[08:45] <k1l> Ezebe: the last packages are for 14.10 in that repo
[08:45] <k1l> Ezebe: use ppa-purge to get rid of that and be more aware what you add as PPA next time
[08:46] <Ezebe> so is my guess that whatever online tutorial i was using to take me through installing ruby rails stuff including node.js is out of date?
[08:46] <k1l> Ezebe: yes
[08:46] <Ezebe> cool thanks - it was added as part of a script - i didn't obviously realise what it was doing
[08:46] <k1l> Ezebe: dont run every command some bloke on the internet wrote there. check them first
[08:47] <Ezebe> but presumably i must have sudo'd it
[08:47] <Ezebe> i will do, thanks for the help
[08:47] <k1l> that is breaking every security barrier
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> Ezebe: also you can search ubuntu official packages before adding a ppa with apt-cache search keyword
[08:48] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: or apt search - less typing :)
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: +1
[08:49] <Ezebe> i'm still very tempted to use guis to search the "official" stuff like ubuntu software centre - i'm sure i should grow up! - is apt search more thorough?
[08:49] <Tegu> if you want something in between, you could try aptitude
[08:50] <dannymichel> What does he mean he http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1190239&p=7507087#post7507087 "wrote out the files to the ~/.home/drive_c/program files/apple utility dir/admin.exe"
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> dannymichel: tell us your story? what are you trying to do?
[08:51] <dannymichel> Im trying to get airport utility to work on ubuntu lotuspsychje
[08:52] <dannymichel> So far that post seems to be the most detailed but its barely writen in english
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> Ezebe: well with apt-cache you can see all packages, on ubuntu-software, terminal apps might be bypassed
[08:52] <dannymichel> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MISJ5ixz/
[08:53] <Ezebe> thanks, i'll check it out.
[08:53] <dannymichel> Just doesnt run i guess
[08:53] <dannymichel> I installed it using wine
[08:53] <Ezebe> and it seems i'm going to install gksudo to do any dangerous tinkering with gedit...
[08:53] <dannymichel> I even tried the ubuntu versiion which everyone says doesnt work
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> !info airport-utils | dannymichel can this help?
[08:54] <dannymichel> Unfortunately no lotuspsychje
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> dannymichel: doesnt work?
[08:55] <dannymichel> yeah doesnt even launch, like the wine version
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> dannymichel: perhaps file a bug against it then, help the community?
[08:55] <dannymichel> I guess
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> !bug | dannymichel
[08:56] <Spinrad> xchat is not available on Ubuntu 16.04 WTF ?
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> !info hexchat | Spinrad alternative
[08:58] <Spinrad> thanks
[08:59] <Village> Hello, how i can install gtk?
[09:01] <llusato> hello :). can it be that firewalld is installed by default in Ubuntu Gnome 16.04?
[09:04] <llusato> Do you know if firewalld is installed by defautl in Ubuntu Gnome 16.04?
[09:06] <ozmage> hello i found this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.1.21-wily/
[09:07] <ozmage> so ubuntu can have older kernels
[09:07] <ozmage> why i cant compile my own kernel and boot it
[09:08] <ozmage> i tryed compiling a kernel vanilla from kernel.org patched with bfs -ck patches and wont boot
[09:08] <ozmage> any ideas why ?
[09:08] <Ezebe> k1l: i've found the script i ran, and see now it possibly did various things to my apt-keys, do i need to dig into this more...?
[09:08] <Ezebe> curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_4.x | sudo -E bash -
[09:10] <ozmage> hello ????
[09:10] <k1l> Ezebe: that is a hell off a script. it loads "some script" from the internet and runs that with sudo permissions.
[09:10] <Ezebe> i know now.  i feel like a chump.  i guess i trusted the original page
[09:11] <Ezebe> it seemed very kosher otherwise :(
[09:11] <Wulf> ozmage: more details?
[09:12] <ozmage> what else
[09:12] <bviktor> how do i run a specific command at boot, automatically and properly?
[09:12] <bviktor> i.e what's the recommended way on 16.04
[09:12] <Wulf> ozmage: why do you think that it doesn't boot? What happens instead? any error messages?
[09:13] <Wulf> bviktor: using systemd I guess
[09:13] <hateball> bviktor: systemd
[09:13] <ozmage> well i compiled a 4.1 kernel with bfs -ck and wont boot what else do it need
[09:13] <ducasse> ozmage: you could try the liquorix kernels, they have a repo
[09:13] <ozmage> no thing
[09:13] <bviktor> Wulf, you mean write a unit?
[09:13] <ozmage> just dont boot
[09:13] <k1l> ozmage: why 4.1? is that special hardware?
[09:13] <Wulf> bviktor: if that's how they call it
[09:13] <ozmage> no i dont want liquorix
[09:13] <ozmage> i want my own kernel
[09:14] <ryan`> how weird
[09:14] <ryan`> like an hour after installing 16.04 and rebooting
[09:14] <ryan`> my server came back up
[09:14] <k1l> ozmage: try this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[09:14] <ryan`> what the hell
[09:14] <ozmage> yes i need 4.1 for my laptop
[09:14] <ozmage> that dont work
[09:14] <k1l> ozmage: i doubt that only 4.1 will work
[09:15] <egon1> !weather drs
[09:15] <digilink> [DRS, Germany] Scattered Clouds. Temp is 6.0*C but feels like 5*C. SSE wind: 7.2 kph. Humidity: 54%.
[09:15] <ozmage> i want to compile my kernel traditional way and 4.1 with -ck patches
[09:16] <ozmage> that was what i did and the kernel just wont boot
[09:18] <llusato> Hello. Do you know if 'firewalld' is installed by default in Ubuntu Gnome 16.04?
[09:18] <Jakey3> does anyone know how to change the window list tabs order in lubuntu?
[09:19] <ozmage> no one have do this before grab the kernel from kernel.org and compile it on ubuntu ?
[09:19] <ozmage> and boot to it ?
[09:21] <ozmage> ????
[09:23] <k1l> ozmage: you want to do advanced task. so see the logs why it doesnt boot. and if you added all patches that are needed for ubuntu. you want your own kernel, then you will have to do the work on your won.
[09:23] <k1l> *own
[09:24] <ozmage> what usuntu patches
[09:25] <ozmage> i want a vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[09:25] <k1l> ozmage: then look at the logs what is happening there.
[09:26] <ozmage> this is possible on all the other distros slackware arch gentoo fedora why i cant have my own kernel ?
[09:26] <ozmage> there is no log the kernel wont do anything
[09:26] <k1l> ozmage: look at the logs why its not booting.
[09:26] <ozmage> man im telling you there is no log
[09:27] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Your kernel sounds broken
[09:27] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> :/
[09:27] <egon1> !weather mqf
[09:27] <ozmage> no is not
[09:27] <rp2> does your system even *try* to boot the kernel?
[09:27] <k1l> egon1: stop that in here. no weather bots allowed
[09:27] <ozmage> i also tryed to boot it on arch and the kernel boots
[09:27] <hateball> ozmage: why not just use the mainline PPA
[09:27] <ozmage> only on ubuntu is not booting
[09:28] <ozmage> because i want -ck patches bfs and other stuff bfq
[09:29] <k1l> ozmage: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[09:29] <ozmage> that only work with the ubuntu kernel
[09:30] <rp2> what's wrong with the ubuntu kernel? you can patch that, too
[09:31] <k1l> ozmage: the ubuntu kernel git includes already other patches that are needed for ubuntu to boot properly. like drm stuff, intel stuff, etc.
[09:35] <darkelfjugglo> EriC^^ SwedeMike Sorry, I had to go do something... No other ideas on how to Remove this... or to at least find the Packages it installed to remove those?
[09:37] <linocisco> hi all,
[09:37] <hari_> HELP
[09:38] <linocisco> I can't log in after upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[09:38] <ozmage> where is the ubuntu git with the kernel 4.1 ?
[09:38] <hari_> can i install ubundu 16.04 LTS on hp pavilion G6 2320tx
[09:38] <k1l> ozmage: you still could not answer why you want 4.1
[09:39] <Wulf> hari_: what wireless and graphics card does it have?
[09:39] <k1l> linocisco: what video card?
[09:39] <linocisco> how can I check? I can't get terminal access
[09:39] <hari_> actually i dont know how to check the hardware details, please advice
[09:40] <linocisco> k1l, even using guest account, I can't login
[09:40] <llusato> Hello. Is anyone out there? :)
[09:40] <SwedeMike> EriC^^: if you remove what-ever package you did "apt-get install" before, then you do apt-get autoremove, it should remove all of them.
[09:40] <ozmage> k1l, because i can hibernate and use my hdmi with this laptop all the features are supported with 4.1
[09:40] <Wulf> hari_: do you already have the system running?
[09:40] <SwedeMike> EriC^^: so do dpkg --purge <package> (the same ones you did apt-get install of) then do apt-get autoremove
[09:40] <hari_> wulf , yeah i have the system
[09:40] <k1l> ozmage: and the newer kernels?
[09:41] <Wulf> hari_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[09:41] <everson> Hi all. Recently upgraded to 14.04. Seems I no longer have access to as many keyboard shortcut options as before. Specifically, I'm trying to assign a key to splitting the file manager window into two panes so that I may easily transfer files from one folder to another whilst looking at both folders (without having to open two separate windows). How can I do this? Thanks
[09:41] <ozmage> no is borked
[09:41] <Wulf> hari_: try it, see if stuff works. If so, install ubuntu
[09:41] <Ezebe> does apt-add-repository -r do anything more than just delete the sources.list.d file? i can't work out the "name" of the repository to remove it using the utility, possibly beacause the referenced urls don't actually exist..
[09:41] <ozmage> hibernation is borked for me since 4.3 and hdmi from 4.4 and up
[09:42] <hari_> wulf , thank you , any way to check the hardware details
[09:42] <FourDollars> Does anyone know how to install ddeb from PPA? I have generated ddeb in PPA.
[09:43] <k1l> ozmage: i linked you the site that explains how to build a kernel. use that method.
[09:44] <dannymichel> Anybody know what themes these are? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ubuntu-themes.jpg
[09:44] <ozmage> k1l, what was the link again ?
[09:45] <Wulf> hari_: I think easiest for you is to try (not install) ubuntu.
[09:45] <hari_> yeah , i got the wifi - ralink RT3290 , graphics intel on board & amd radeon
[09:45] <k1l> dannymichel: doesnt the article name them?
[09:45] <Wulf> hari_: and once you booted it: lspci in a shell
 ozmage: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[09:45] <hari_> ok
[09:45] <dannymichel> No k1l http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[09:45] <ozmage> and where i can found the ubuntu kernel git tree with the kernel 4.1 patched with ubuntu stuff ?
[09:46] <k1l> dannymichel: best is to ask in comments under the article, i think
[09:46] <streulma> Is there a virtual cd burner for Wine ?
[09:46] <dannymichel> I noticed someone already did
[09:46] <Wulf> hari_: your wireless is supposed to be supported
[09:46] <Wulf> hari_: intel graphics usually works too
[09:47] <Wulf> hari_: and radeon usually works with some effort
[09:47] <hari_> thank you , going to download ubundu , which version is full featured one
[09:48] <chinabaozi> hey man.
[09:48] <hari_> showing enterprise , education, govt , developers
[09:48] <dannymichel> Anybody know if there is a shortcut(maybe for compiz) that centers windows?
[09:48] <chinabaozi> a beautiful day,ha?
[09:48] <Wulf> hari_: 16.04 desktop
[09:48] <hari_> ok
[09:48] <hari_> thank you
[09:48] <linocisco> who will  help me?
[09:48] <kkj> linocisco: Just state your question. :-)
[09:49] <ozmage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile this is outdated info
[09:49] <ozmage> and where i can found the ubuntu kernel git tree with the kernel 4.1 patched with ubuntu stuff ?
[09:49] <linocisco> kkj, I just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 partial upgrade but after restart, I can't login using normal account and guest account
[09:51] <llusato> Hello. Do you know if 'firewalld' is installed by default in Ubuntu Gnome 16.04?
[09:52] <kkj> llusato: Probably. Check ufw status
[09:53] <kkj> linocisco: No idea, I never do in-place upgrades. Any log files or whatever that says anything?
[09:53] <linocisco> kkj, how can I see?
[09:53] <ozmage> and where i can found the ubuntu kernel git tree with the kernel 4.1 patched with ubuntu stuff ????? i cant find anything on http://kernel.ubuntu.com
[09:53] <kkj> linocisco: Boot with a livecd
[09:54] <kkj> linocisco: There is a billion things that could have gone wrong during an in-place OS upgrade to cause problems.
[09:55] <linocisco> kkj, that is problem. I dont have live CD currently. yes. I was told to disable UEFI because it will not work with thirdparty drivers.
[09:57] <rp2> ozmage: I don't think there is such a thing as 'the ubuntu kernel git tree'
[09:58] <k1l> there is. and its named in the articles i linked
[09:58] <rp2> ozmage: why don't you just follow Ubuntu's instructions on how to build the kernel from source, and patch that kernel?
[09:58] <k1l> but since the user is too lazy to read i lost motivation to help.
[09:59] <ozmage> i want the mainline ubuntu kernel git tree that i can checkout the kernel 4.1 and then patch it with -ck and bfs bfq
[09:59] <Bernzel> any quick tools for Ubuntu if I want to cut a long video down?
[09:59] <Bernzel> mp4
[09:59] <llusato> kkj I had a problem with ufw not enabled at startup after reboot and I think the problem is that I have ufw and firewalld both enabled  at the same time and they are conflicting.
[10:00] <rp2> there may not be a mainline Ubuntu git tree and if there is, it may not be easy for you to figure out whether it is supposed to work on your system
[10:00] <ozmage> k1l, if i fallow those instructions it will pull the last kernel
[10:00] <llusato> Which one do you recommend to uninstall/deactivate?
[10:00] <ozmage> and i want 4.1
[10:01] <kkj> llusato: Aha. - The default is ufw, I have no preference toward any of them. But I guess I would stick with the default for convinience.
[10:02] <newseong> How do I uninstall Google Typecatcher fonts?
[10:02] <llusato> ok how can I uninstall firewalld?
[10:02] <ozmage> i just want the source of this pkgs http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.1.21-wily/
[10:02] <llusato> Many thanks! :)
[10:03] <kkj> llusato: apt-get purge firewalld
[10:04] <llusato> ok many thanks kkj!:)
[10:05] <kkj> llusato: No problem.
[10:05] <newseong> I found it using Synaptic.
[10:05] <newseong> Synaptic is a very powerful tool.
[10:06] <ozmage> everything i need is here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.1.21-wily/README
[10:06] <ozmage> i was looking on other directions
[10:14] <yray> hello everyone
[10:14] <chinabaozi> listen to me
[10:15] <yyray> Is there a way to completely reset the tcp/ip or network stack setting in ubuntu?
[10:15] <yyray> or this is not possible like it is in windows 8.1
[10:15] <andreas_> cheesecakes
[10:16] <yyray> you mean it is easy?
[10:16] <inocuous> Is anyone using this hexchat-indicator patch? https://github.com/cheshire-mouse/hexchat-indicator
[10:16] <cheesecakes> hello! I've seet up a ubuntu server with a rsa key I made in puttygen, I have both the public and private key. But I can't figure out how to log into it from ubuntu, all the guides seem to be for windows.
[10:16] <yyray> folks?
[10:17] <cheesecakes> is there a way to save the rsa key on my local ubuntu laptop and ssh fast inn, or a command I can make an alias for?
[10:17] <vusimuzi> ok
[10:17] <kkj> cheesecakes: Yes. Just add your public key to the servers authorized_keys file in ~/.ssh/
[10:18] <cheesecakes> it is in the servers authorized_keys, I just need to find out how to log inn FROM my ubuntu machine, the key was made in windows
[10:19] <cheesecakes> I've gone through almost 20 guides now, all telling me how to put it on the server but none telling me how to log inn from a linux machine
[10:19] <vusimuzi> ho does one chat here/
[10:19] <inocuous> vusimuzi, you are doing it correctly.
[10:19] <kkj> cheesecakes: You need the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub in your local .ssh directory
[10:20] <kkj> With the correct permissions
[10:20] <cheesecakes> hmm thanks
[10:20] <cheesecakes> any idea where the .ssh direcotory is?
[10:20] <vusimuzi> oh thanks @inocuos
[10:21] <inocuous> no problem vusimuzi
[10:21] <kkj> cheesecakes: In your home directory on your ubuntu laptop.
[10:21] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> cheesecakes: Look in your home directory
[10:21] <kkj> cheesecakes: if it is not there create it.
[10:21] <cheesecakes> it's not, I'll just go "mkdir ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" and put them there
[10:21] <kkj> cheesecakes: mkdir .ssh
[10:22] <kkj> cheesecakes: auth keys are on the server side.
[10:22] <cheesecakes> oh, I can just drop the private key in the .ssh folder
[10:22] <kkj> cheesecakes: On the server side, yes.
[10:23] <cheesecakes> never mind the server side, the server side is done. I *only* care about client side.
[10:24] <kkj> cheesecakes: Yes. On the client side you need the id_rsa and the id_rsa.pub (the keys...)
[10:24] <cheesecakes> oh both, goodie. thanks
[10:24] <vusimuzi> :-(
[10:25] <kkj> cheesecakes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys -- This guide is good, and exactly what you want.
[10:25] <vusimuzi> how does one access chatrooms
[10:26] <vusimuzi> this is confusing.0_0
[10:26] <linocisco> what do I do now?
[10:26] <inocuous> btw, vusimuzi , you don't need to add the @, that actually cancels out the notifications to the intended person won't see their message highlighted.
[10:27] <inocuous> do you have a question vusimuzi ?
[10:27] <vusimuzi> how does one do that?inocuous
[10:28] <vusimuzi> yes i have
[10:28] <inocuous> best just to shout it out, someone may have an answer
[10:29] <k1l> vusimuzi: type "/join #channelname" to enter another channel
[10:30] <vusimuzi> "/#channelname"
[10:31] <thunfisch> hey, having problems with a creative soundblaster audigy fx (sb1570) on 12.04 - I've finally got it to recognize the card, but it's not showing up in pulseaudio for the normal user, nor the usual alsa tools. however if i run the alsa tools with root privileges, i can see the card.
[10:31] <thunfisch> any ideas whats going wrong there? wiki says, in ubuntu you shouldn't need the audio group for users
[10:33] <kkj> thunfisch: Maybe it shouldn't need the audio group, but have you tried adding the user to it?
[10:34] <dannymichel> Anybody know what the theme on the right here is? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ubuntu-themes.jpg
[10:34] <thunfisch> kkj: i'm doing that now.
[10:35] <kkj> thunfisch: If that doesn't do it, check the permissions on the device in /dev/...
[10:39] <thunfisch> kkj: adding the user to the audio group seems to have fixed it. very weird.
[10:49] <Guest31533> I had a problem earlier could not access windows shares, after installing samba all worked well.
[10:49] <Guest31533> My sort of final problem on moving to Ubuntu C#
[10:49] <Guest31533> Any C# developer here?
[10:52] <hateball> daniel01: probably more respons in ##programming
[10:53] <daniel01> thanks, it's only #programming, right?
[10:53] <hateball> daniel01: No
[10:53] <daniel01> ok, thanks again!
[10:55] <kkj> thunfisch: Well, if it works it's all good. :-)
[10:55] <Bernzel> has anyone used OpenShot here? I need help with exporting a trimmed video
[10:56] <EriC^^> Bernzel: the guys in #ubuntu-studio probably know a lot about it, worth asking there too
[10:56] <Bernzel> ok thanks
[10:58] <haasn> I'm having more issues with compiz in unity than I'd like to have. Is it possible to replace compiz by e.g. compton and still use unity?
[11:00] <sissylog> W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key <key in question> uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[11:00] <sissylog> is this a known bug?
[11:00] <hateball> sissylog: Yes
[11:01] <sissylog> hateball, thanks
[11:01] <hateball> sissylog: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Apt/Sha1Removal
[11:01] <hateball> sissylog: the "bug" being that google uses weak ciphers
[11:01] <cheesecakes> urm, still having problems with SSH. Here is what I have done: made the rsa key (both public and private in ubuntu), copied it into ~/.ssh/autorized_keys in the server, chmodded, restarted ssh, still can't log inn
[11:03] <cheesecakes> §ssh errors: ndreas@Tenkboks:~$ ssh -v andreas@128.39.121.22
[11:03] <cheesecakes> OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4, OpenSSL 1.0.2g-fips  1 Mar 2016
[11:03] <cheesecakes> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[11:03] <cheesecakes> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[11:03] <cheesecakes> debug1: Connecting to 128.39.121.22 [128.39.121.22] port 22.
[11:03] <cheesecakes> debug1: Connection established.
[11:04] <cheesecakes> http://hastebin.com/givoferibi.sm <- the log from me trying to use my rsa key
[11:04] <Wulf> cheesecakes: can you use another paste service?
[11:05] <cheesecakes> yes, hold on.
[11:05] <cheesecakes> Wulf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16077213/
[11:06] <direwolf> where is a support chanel?
[11:07] <cheesecakes> here direwolf
[11:07] <Wulf> cheesecakes: what's on the server in ~andreas/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[11:08] <cheesecakes> the id_rsa.pub file I generated on my laptop
[11:08] <cheesecakes> I had to manually copy-paste it inn
[11:08] <Wulf> cheesecakes: what about file permissions of .ssh and .ssh/authorized_keys?
[11:08] <cheesecakes> how do I print them again?
[11:08] <Wulf> cheesecakes: ls -l
[11:08] <cheesecakes> nvm
[11:09] <direwolf> i cant install flash use Chromium browswer on ubuntu 16.04
[11:09] <cheesecakes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16077269/
[11:09] <hateball> direwolf: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[11:09] <CasW> Is it true that (L)ubuntu 16.04 requires OpenGL 2.1 or higher? I tried installing it on my netbook (Intel Atom N450, Intel GMA 3150 (OpenGL 2.0)), and it doesn't boot properly, here's the last part of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/98xuSYMY
[11:09] <CasW> I have been able to boot into the graphical shell using recovery mode, and I have installed the newest drivers
[11:09] <cheesecakes> direwolf if you want flash maybe consider using Chrome, it is bundled with it. else do the thing hateball said : )
[11:09] <Wulf> cheesecakes: make the directory 700 and the file 600
[11:10] <hateball> cheesecakes, direwolf, the package above downloads official chrome and rips out pepperflash for use with chromium
[11:10] <Guest18094> Why doesn't Ubuntu offer DVD ISO images containing all the packages on its repositories?
[11:11] <direwolf> chrome work fine on ubuntu?
[11:11] <hateball> direwolf: Yes
[11:11] <Guest18094> Debian does. You can download 6 DVD images, mount them and then you have an entire local repository
[11:12] <Guest18094> It would be very easy to offer this facility. Why doesn't it happen?
[11:12] <cheesecakes> direwolf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16077300/ still same problem
[11:12] <lundmar> its 2016, DVDs are obsolete.
[11:13] <cheesecakes> nvm. the unable to resolve host direwolf , it's a openstack issue.
[11:13] <Guest18094> zsync could be used to efficiently keep the local DVDs up to date
[11:13] <newman> hello everyone
[11:14] <cheesecakes> Guest18094, ubuntu's repos are larger then Debians
[11:14] <TJ-> Guest18094: because it's just as effective to create a local mirror repo using apt-mirror for that use-case
[11:14] <newman> can anyone suggest how to edit ipsec.secrets file?
[11:14] <newman>  Its urgent
[11:15] <Guest18094> TJ - apt-mirror is an alternative. But consider the technical expertise required to set up apt-mirror! Compare that with downloading 3 DVDs and mounting them. There is no comparison.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:15] <direwolf> i tried via terminal and has a eror
[11:15] <LTCD> Anyone here from America? Would appreicate if they could answer this. Sorry to ask here but there is no education channel.  http://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/67759/america-community-college-reading-class
[11:15] <Guest18094> It is *by far* easier to download and mount.
[11:15] <TJ-> newman: see "man 5 ipsec.secrets"
[11:16] <Guest18094> What possible disadvantage could there be to offering those DVDs?
[11:16] <ubuntu1> hi
[11:16] <ubuntu1> i cant use sudo
[11:17] <TJ-> Guest18094: they rapidly go out-of-date because of package upgrades with security fixes
[11:17] <ubuntu1> i known password but not accetp
[11:17] <ubuntu1> [sudo] password  (Sorry, try again)
[11:17] <blaamann_b570> Do we still need gstreamer0.10 stuff in 16:04? To run rhythmbox etc
[11:17] <an_> I am running a bash script on ubuntu which internally calls "sed -i ..." to find and replace in an infinite loop on an ext4 mount. The file gets deleted after a while and strace shows rename command unfinished. I have also tried with auto_da_alloc and nodelalloc options but it didn't help. Changing journalling from data=ordered to data=journal solves the problem. What is exactly happening?
[11:18] <ubuntu1> I know it's true
[11:18] <ubuntu1> why not accept?
[11:18] <CasW> Hey guys, my old netbook (with an Intel GMA 3150) won't boot into Ubuntu because OpenGL2.1 is required (I do use the proprietary drivers), is there any way to fix this?
[11:19] <newman> That just gives the discription of file. I need to append just one line in that but the vi editor isn't working even from root.
[11:20] <daniel01> Anyone here running PopcornTime?
[11:20] <TJ-> an_: That sounds like a race-condition bug somewhere in the stack
[11:20] <daniel01> Was wondering if it's still alive, tried to instal it and faild
[11:20] <blaamann_b570> ubuntu1: Are you in sudo group? Run the groups command in terminal and see if it returns sudo.
[11:20] <huwjr> has anyone had issues with mysql connection randomly swapping from 127.0.0.1 and localhost ? I’ve had it twice now, first time was weird, this is now bullshit
[11:20] <TJ-> an_: can you report a bug and provide a simple test-case script to show it off so others can reproduce it, and then work on it?
[11:20] <newman> Can you suggest some other method for that?
[11:20] <Guest18094> TJ - I think a set of DVDs, including all the packages current at the time of initial release of a new version of Ubuntu, should be made available for download for each release.
[11:21] <TJ-> !bug | an_
[11:21] <ubuntu1> blaamann_b570 how i can add in sudo grub?
[11:21] <newman> @TJ
[11:21] <newman> Can you suggest some other method for that?
[11:21] <Mekkis> is there an easy way to get a VM for building ubuntu packages?
[11:21] <blaamann_b570> ubuntu1: Did you run 'groups'?
[11:21] <TJ-> Guest18094: well, you're free to join the Ubuntu development team and make it happen. Historically there was almost zero interest in that - most people want the latest from the archive
[11:22] <EriC^^> will opencl be supported on 16.04 soon?
[11:22] <TJ-> newman: is the file permissions marked read-only for root? ("ls -l /etc/ipsec.secrets") or maybe has the immutable (i) but set?
[11:22] <EriC^^> for the amdgpu
[11:22] <zmon> hi, Installed hplip-gui, I get the error "Qt/PyQt 4 initialization failed" but I do have python-qt4 per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne#error:_hp-setup_requires_GUI_support  what to do?
[11:23] <LTCD> Anyone American here?
[11:23] <hateball> !ot | LTCD
[11:23] <LTCD> Woops
[11:23] <Guest18094> Looking at the history of the last LTS, Precise, there have been 5 point releases.
[11:23] <newman> Its  (-rw) read/write I think
[11:24] <newman> -rw------- 1 root root 322 Nov 16 08:44 /etc/ipsec.secrets
[11:24] <an_> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/szVF7SS4 This is the script that I used
[11:24] <Guest18094> If the DVDs in mind are presented with zsync support, there would not be much extra bandwith used
[11:24] <Mika_> Hmmm is this the right room to talk about dd vs dban? :)
[11:25] <TJ->      newman how about "getfacl /etc/ipsec.secrets"
[11:25] <Guest18094> Hey, TJ! The Ubuntu dev team! What a thought. Thank you. what is the channel for that?
[11:26] <TJ-> Guest18094: generally #ubuntu-devel, although that is mostly focused on actual coding/packaging development
[11:27] <newman> That says Owner and group : root and user : root as well
[11:27] <Mika_> has anybody ever like really recovered data what has been overwritten with zeroes. Because i think its more a myth... Hmm
[11:27] <newman> * user : rw-
[11:27] <baprath> ! register
[11:27] <TJ-> an_: well, you've got 2 processes there running in the background each trying to process the same file, so my 1st guess would be they're causing a race condition
[11:27] <cheesecakes> no one that can help with my ssh-problem?
[11:27] <cheesecakes> super annoying that I can log inn from Putty on windows, but can
[11:27] <cheesecakes> can't from Ubuntu
[11:28] <newman> That means the file is editiable but what editor to use>
[11:28] <TJ-> an_: and each time around the while() loop you'll start 2 more processes (notice how each command ends with the "&" backgrounding operator)
[11:28] <newman> ?
[11:29] <TJ-> newman: if you're using vi, then you write the changed file with ":w" ... do you get a permission denied message ?
[11:30] <an_> TJ-: A single sed in loop without redirection caused the same error too. http://pastebin.com/m44r3AQ6
[11:32] <TJ-> an_: I can believe it - as I said, you're putting the proceess into the background by using the "&" operator so you can end up starting another process before the first has terminated
[11:32] <TJ-> an_: remove the "&"
[11:32] <effectnet> good morning
[11:34] <niko988> Hello everyone. I'm trying right now to setup vnc server with this howto: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04 - everything is working. i can start vncserver with "sudo systemctl start vncserver@1.service" and stop too, but i can't install it as a service to run on boot with this command: "sudo systemctl enable vncserver@1.service"
[11:34] <niko988> it allways tells me Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument... How is that possible, and what could i do wrong?
[11:35] <newman> @TJ :- I'm getting an output like :- http://pastebin.com/d0LbTAZG
[11:36] <newman> Along with that it says file is already opened for editing though i closed that before
[11:36] <TJ-> newman: After starting 'vi' ? Yes, that's the editing environment. read "man vi" for instructions on how to use 'vi' or in 'vi' type ":h" for help
[11:40] <an_> TJ-: Ah! Thanks. That might be the reason. Out of curiosity, why does increasing the journalling level from data=ordered to data=journal solve the problem?
[11:41] <newman> The output i pasted is after i ran vi command as vi ./ipsec.secrets :w and after that i get http://pastebin.com/azGamxaf on pressing enter i just get http://pastebin.com/d0LbTAZG,. I dont think that's an editing environment?
[11:41] <TJ-> an_: that's a question I'll avoid for now since it involves a lot of technical mystery in the file-system handling. Basically, the data=journal ensures the metadate and file data are always in-sync
[11:42] <newman> I think vi editor is not able to read the contents. That might need some other editor or else I am not sure why is it occuring?
[11:43] <TJ-> newman: In vi to enter INSERT mode press "i". To exit that mode press ESCAPE. As I already said, do ":h" in 'vi' itself to get help... it gives information on how to use it.
[11:44] <TJ-> newman: vi/vim use modes - command and editing - so on start you're in command mode. You have to enter editing mode using i (insert) or a (append) or various other options.
[11:44] <effectnet> i am having that slow mouse disease
[11:45] <TJ-> newman: you might find "nano" a better editor to understand if you want a modeless editor - it uses Ctrl+Key sequences to issue commands
[11:45] <TJ-> effectnet: replacement batteries?
[11:45] <effectnet> i did replace batteries yes thanks.
[11:45] <TJ-> effectnet: is the mouse Bluetooth
[11:45] <effectnet> a few people had the problem in the forum i see.
[11:45] <newman> when you enter vi command that must show the contents if it is able to read. But I think you have already seen output. Are you sure its even able to read the contents if you are aware about vi?
[11:45] <effectnet> no just wireless mouse not blueteeth
[11:46] <TJ-> newman: the pastebin you linked to shows the content of the default /etc/ipsec.secrets file, which is just # comments explaining its use
[11:47] <newman> http://pastebin.com/d0LbTAZG are you talking about it?
[11:48] <TJ-> effectnet: OK, with wireless devices they almost always operate in the unlicensed 2.4GHz radio frequency band, the same band that WiFi is in. If there are a lot of (strong) signal from other devices they will interfere with the signal and that is usually the cause of such things. For WiFi and Bluetooth, most devices how have hardware capabilities to avoid interfering with one another, but for other protocols
[11:48] <TJ-> that doesn't help so those can still suffer interference.
[11:48] <effectnet> hmmm k
[11:48] <TJ-> effectnet: the best test is to take your PC a long way from the Wifi access point, turn off the PC's Wifi radio (rfkill or a hot-key) and see if the mouse still lags
[11:49] <effectnet>  k i'll work on it next time it occurs
[11:49] <TJ-> effectnet: if the mouse seems to be OK in that test you're almost certainly proved radio interference is the cause
[11:50] <newman> # This file holds shared secrets or RSA private keys for authentication.  # RSA private key for this host, authenticating it to any other host # which knows the public part.  Suitable public keys, for ipsec.conf, DNS, # or configuration of other implementations, can be extracted conveniently # with "ipsec showhostkey".  ~                                                                                ~
[11:51] <newman> The ~ signs you see are representing the contents of file i think
[11:52] <newman> Refer here :- http://pastebin.com/70dBiTZD
[11:52] <effectnet> oh i had to take wifi out of this room cuz sleep disturbances
[11:52] <newman> You are just able to read the comments in file i think.
[11:54] <newman> If you are using 15.04 or that might be on all versions, then you can find and try yourself in /etc directory
[11:54] <newman> Please just take a look and respond soon.
[11:55] <newman> Hey anyone connected>
[11:55] <newman> ??
[11:56] <zetheroo> booting up with 16.04 on a laptop here is taking about 2 minutes till I get to the login screen. Can dmesg output show why? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16077884/
[11:58] <hateball> zetheroo: check if you get any more info from "journalctl -b"
[11:59] <niko988> Nobody here who could tell my why i'm having trouble? I'm trying right now to setup vnc server with this howto: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04 - everything is working. i can start vncserver with "sudo systemctl start vncserver@1.service" and stop too, but i can't install it as a service to run on boot with this command: "sudo
[11:59] <niko988> systemctl enable vncserver@1.service" it allways tells me Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument... How is that possible, and what could i do wrong?
[12:00] <akik> newman: the ~ chars show that there's no data there. the file has already ended
[12:01] <newman> is it able to read binary file too?
[12:01] <pauljw> niko988, no expert here, but maybe you should use 'start' rather than 'enable' in your boot script?
[12:01] <zetheroo> hateball: ok thanks - I think I found the issue with that command :)
[12:02] <hateball> zetheroo: :)
[12:03] <niko988> pauljw: the enable command should set the script up to run on boot. the start stop commands are to use on commandline
[12:05] <ozmage> hello
[12:05] <ozmage> the plymouth splash is not loading here
[12:05] <ozmage> anyone has this problem ?
[12:05] <hateball> ozmage: Are you using a recent nvidia binary driver?
[12:06] <ozmage> how i tell the initramfs to include the i915 modules
[12:06] <ozmage> no
[12:06] <ozmage> intel
[12:07] <akik> newman: i think there's better hex editors than vim
[12:08] <ozmage> how i tell the initramfs to include the i915 modules ?
[12:11] <ozmage> nvm
[12:12] <TJ-> zetheroo:  try "systemd-analyze blame"
[12:13] <ducasse> zetheroo: 'systemd-analyze blame' will show you which tasks take most time on startup
[12:13] <chrismallia> I have a problem in ubuntu black text in browser and documents appear in grey instead of black
[12:14] <zetheroo> TJ-: very cool
[12:14] <zetheroo> So Network Manager takes about 10 seconds on boot ...
[12:15] <TJ-> zetheroo: Network Manager relies on a lot of underlying services/processes depending on what kind of networking is configured
[12:15] <zetheroo> yeah, it's better now - boot down to 30 seconds
[12:15] <TJ-> zetheroo: "journalctl -u network-manager.service" will show its logs
[12:15] <TJ-> zetheroo: that logging is also available in /var/log/syslog
[12:16] <TJ-> niko988: did you do "systemctl status vncserver@1.service" - that service may already be enabled
[12:19] <ksergy> Hi there!
[12:21] <ksergy> I'm creating a deb package for some software and have got a little problem with it's postinst script. Well, it may sound ridiculously but the script is run without any arguments after I do dpkg -i some-sw.deb.
[12:25] <louisdk> I'm about to upgrade a virtual Ubuntu server from 14.04 to 16.04. I had to run do-release-upgrade -d" to get 16.04. While upgrading it hangs while showing this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16078429/
[12:29] <fenix> Hi there, I've been using this today to configure a 16.04 : https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html and at smoe point of the tutorial it says to start sssd service. it turns out sssd wouldn't start unless "kinit" and "ads join" have been executed before, these are the two steps following "sssd start" so maybe you'll wantto check/modify this part of the doc. thank you!
[12:29] <newman> Is it required to configure the private key files when configuring for vpn in ubuntu ?
[12:30] <newman> Please respond since that will let me know if it a scam !
[12:31] <newman> * its
[12:34] <newman> I'm using manual setup for IPsec IKEv2 with Strongswan( no GUI)
[12:34] <newman> Please respond quick
[12:35] <bazhang> !info strongswan
[12:35] <younder> How do I tell a DHCP configured DNS server the name of my machines. NB! This is a clusre numbered from L -left to R right and 1 to 5 front to back. Order matters.
[12:35] <bazhang> newman, whats the question
[12:36] <damien__> bonjour
[12:36] <newman> Is it required to configure the private key files when configuring for vpn in ubuntu ?
[12:37] <newman> I'm using manual setup for IPsec IKEv2 with Strongswan( no GUI) and it requires me to append a statement in secret key files for network
[12:37] <newman> I mean in etc/ipsec.secrets file
[12:37] <dante_> will ubuntu run on HP Stream 13-c102no 13.3" without hardware/driver problems? - http://www.elkjop.no/product/data/barbar-pc/HP13C102NO/hp-stream-13-c102no-13-3-barbar-pc-bla
[12:38] <younder> Secrets should be stored in 0600 form or u+rw go-rwx
[12:38] <younder> It is better still to encrypt
[12:39] <newman> Actually they want me to append the statement for username and passkey in a format in that file.
[12:39] <Soup4you2> Just wondering if anybody has experienced wifi flakyness since upgrading to 16.10..  seems to cut out for about 10 seconds every 20-30 seconds.  i'm using the broadcom proprietary drivers.
[12:39] <newman> Doesn't that risk the security?
[12:39] <k1l> Soup4you2: 16.10?
[12:40] <MartyH> hi folks, I managed to render my system unbootable. I had a dual-boot system with win8 and (a broken) debian. I attempted to install ubuntu over the broken debian, but apparently did something wrong. The installation failed to write a boot loader, but has apparently broken my old boot loader. I'm currently on an Ubuntu live image. What are my best next steps?
[12:40] <Soup4you2> 16.04 my bad
[12:40] <bazhang> !yak
[12:40] <younder> He maeans 16.04..
[12:40] <younder> tipo
[12:41] <k1l> !bootrepair | MartyH
[12:41] <MartyH> thanks kll
[12:41] <anyilloyd> Please guys just installed LAMP but dont know how to make it work with apache2. need help please
[12:42] <younder> anyilloyd, What is the problem
[12:43] <younder> anyilloyd, I assume you have studied http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-lamp-on-ubuntu
[12:43] <anyilloyd> finding it difficult to configure my lamp server
[12:43] <younder> if not read it and come back if you still have problems
[12:43] <anyilloyd> yes
[12:44] <riton-> hi guys, I've just upgraded my ubuntu from 15.10 to 16.04. I'm trying to configure a WPA2 enterprise network connection with TLS and I face this bug :: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1339607
[12:44] <newman> No one expert with networking here?
[12:44] <jair> hello all
[12:44] <riton-> my private key is encrypted and was functional with Ubuntu 15.10. Does anybody has a solution ? thx
[12:44] <chrismalllia> Hi sorry I asked this question b4 but do not know if I got answer as I got disconnected . Anyone know why my text colour looks grey in bowsers and text document?
[12:45] <younder> anyilloyd, Ive ha a LAMP stack for many years. Have you tested something like: sudo  tail -n 20 /var/log/syslog
[12:46] <anyilloyd> no
[12:46] <jair> I just installed 16.04 and selected gnome-ubuntu for the gui.  However I don't like the way gnome 3 is behaving, is there a way i can make the gnome desktop behave like a cinnamon mint, or regular old school gnome with a taskbar, and the ability to put icons on the desktops?
[12:46] <younder> anyilloyd, sudo  tail -n 20 /var/log/apache2/..
[12:46] <k1l> anyilloyd: have you used the ubuntu packages to install the apache and mysql etc?
[12:46] <anyilloyd> Kil: no
[12:47] <k1l> anyilloyd: how did you install it?
[12:47] <anyilloyd> Am new in linux world
[12:47] <younder> anyilloyd, no wonder
[12:48] <k1l> anyilloyd: you need to provide more details. did you use the ubuntu repos to install the lamp stack or did you download some stuff from other websites?
[12:48] <younder> anyilloyd, ubuntu setup of apache2  is WAY different from the stock
[12:48] <anyilloyd> ok
[12:49] <k1l> anyilloyd: ?
[12:49] <ZimaBlue> hi guys I have the most basic stupid problem- I run sudo chown -cR jenkins:jenkins /home/vagrant/zimablue and it says it's changing all the file/dir owners, then when I check with sudo ls -l | awk '{print $3, $4 }' it hasn't changed them
[12:49] <ZimaBlue> like there's something really basic I'm not understanding
[12:49] <k1l> ok, since you dont answer questions to get more infos:
[12:49] <k1l> !lamp | anyilloyd
[12:50] <anyilloyd> Kil: i installed it through the command line
[12:50] <k1l> ZimaBlue: what is the output of "pwd"?
[12:50] <younder> anyilloyd, don't we all
[12:50] <ZimaBlue> kil /home/vagrant
[12:50] <k1l> anyilloyd: see the bots message and link
[12:51] <younder> ah another vagrant user. Newt we we will hear of ansible
[12:51] <anyilloyd> Kil: alright, checking it out, thanks
[12:53] <MartyH_> I booted cleanly (without grub) back in to windows, so that part worked. I would like to install ubuntu dual boot. Windows disk management is showing my Disk0, which is half free space, half NTFS, and Disk1, which shows "system reserved", an NTFS partition "System, Active, Primary", and an NTFS partition which holds C:\ of the windows install, and a primary partition Disk Management knows nothing about, which I assume used to have t
[12:53] <k1l> ZimaBlue: change to the next folder first
[12:53] <MartyH_> I'd like to remove all traces of the debian install, and replace that with Ubuntu. What is my best bet?
[12:53] <k1l> ZimaBlue: "cd zimablue"
[12:53] <younder> apt-get
[12:54] <younder> MartyH_, Seriously reinstall
[12:54] <k1l> ZimaBlue: you are not changing in the anything in the vagrants users home but in its subdirectory.
[12:54] <MartyH_> younder: reinstall what?
[12:55] <younder> MartyH_, debian for ubuntu. I don't know why you want to do this though
[12:55] <ZimaBlue> kil: it still prints vagrant for all the owners, the really confusing part is that the -c output is telling me that it's changing the user
[12:57] <Guest10972> hello, I have an old netbook (32 bit) that has a corrupted windows config file on it. Its an acer aspire one ZG5... anyone have experience installing ubuntu on it? no cd drive, just usb
[12:58] <ducasse> ZimaBlue: check with lsattr if the 'i' attribute is set
[12:58] <MartyH_> the debian install was already unbootable (due to a firmware problem for my GPU). I suspect that the partition that Windows Disk Management is unable to recognize is the partition that held Debian, but is now reformatted btrfs, so it's unlikely it's ever bootable again. I'm going to need a new bootloader and new OS install anyway, so why not Ubuntu? It's just that I'm not sure how to partition and format in the Ubuntu installer
[12:58] <SPID> HI
[12:59] <SPID> hiiii allllllllllllllll
[12:59] <hateball> Guest10972: Try live-booting Ubuntu on USB, see if it works
[12:59] <ZimaBlue> lsattr
[12:59] <de-facto> MartyH_  you choose "something different" in the formating step then you can format as you like
[13:00] <ZimaBlue> ducasse - I then get lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./project.clj o.O
[13:00] <akik> MartyH_: you only need one partition for ubuntu and one partition for swap. that's it
[13:01] <de-facto> MartyH_ "Something else" i meant
[13:01] <MartyH_> thanks de-facto. That's what I tried earlier, and that failed to create the bootloader. I'm sort of scared it will fail to do that again, because I don't know why it failed to do that.
[13:02] <akik> MartyH_: the installer asks where to install the boot loader. put it to the start of your disk, e.g. /dev/sda
[13:02] <MartyH_> I'm feeling a bit out of my depth, particularly because I don't really understand how bootloading and MBR's work, so I'm just pressing the buttons that seem right, which is a sort of scary way to go about things
[13:02] <MartyH_> akik: it did try that; and failed to do that, which is where my reluctance comes from
[13:03] <younder> MartyH_, We all feel that way ;) and I have been woring with UNIX systems for 30 years
[13:03] <de-facto> MartyH_ the bootloader is installed onto the block device directly for example /dev/sda in front of the partition table (leave the first megabyte emtpy when partitioning)
[13:04] <effectnet> nice, just disconnected from internet, needed to reboot
[13:05] <Slade> did CUDA support die at 14.10 ?
[13:05] <MartyH_> I'll give it another swing. So do I have this right: I need to have the installer write Ubuntu to an unused partition of my choice, and mount / on it, assign a swap partition, and have the installer write a bootloader to the MBR of sda or sdb depending on which one my BIOS wants to boot from?
[13:06] <MartyH_> and sda and sdb correspond with what windows calls disk1 and disk2, not nessecarily in the same order?
[13:06] <dury> OerHeks, hi there, hi also to all
[13:06] <ducasse> ZimaBlue: not sure why you get that, what file system is this on? and is it mounted over the network?
[13:07] <effectnet> samnba didn't start on reboot, how do i start it?
[13:07] <de-facto> MartyH_ is this an uefi system or old bios? if its uefi you would need to use gpt partitions if its bios (or compatibility mode) you can use mbr
[13:07] <kkj> effectnet: /etc/init.d/samba start ?
[13:07] <effectnet> cool
[13:07] <paws> "sudo adduser test www-data" and its telling me: adduser: The user 'test' does not exist.
[13:08] <MartyH_> it calls itself "dual uefi-bios". I'm not sure what it means by that.
[13:08] <de-facto> MartyH_ if you choose something else do you see an EFI partition there already?
[13:09] <ZimaBlue> ducasse: it's an ubuntu vagrant instance with virtualbox as backing provider inside another ubuntu instance, nothing over the network, when I ran mount the first line of the output was /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw). I think I got it - it's something to do with the fact that these two directories are being synchronised by vagrant/virtualbox
[13:09] <andreycizov> Hey everyone! Is there anyone who has ever tried to disable connection rate limiting in ufw?
[13:10] <newman> Do anyone know how to temporarily provide permissions to open root files in write format from gedit editor?
[13:10] <newman> Any script for that?
[13:10] <dury> OerHeks, did follow this > http://askubuntu.com/questions/182274/how-to-disable-autologin-in-lubuntu but the desktop environment doesn't load automatically
[13:10] <de-facto> gksu gedit
[13:10] <MartyH_> I'm booted back in to windows now, so I'd have to reboot from the live distro again. Or do you have any recommendations for a partition manager that shows me what I need to see for windows de-facto ?
[13:10] <MartyH_> the help is much appreciated by the way
[13:10] <younder> newman, There are no teporary root permissions to a file
[13:11] <hateball> !sudo | newman
[13:11] <ysionneau> Hi, is this normal? (ubuntu mate 16.04 x86_64) : http://pastebin.com/5U7YnRam ?
[13:11] <younder> newman, I suppose you meant to temporarly elevate the privileges of a program to root, write a file and then lower the privileges
[13:12] <dury> want to switch on the computer and the desktop environment appear
[13:12] <ysionneau> (cannot compile a basic C++ file with g++ -m32 on my 64 bit system)
[13:12] <newman> ya you got that I think
[13:12] <dury> running 14.04 installed through mini iso
[13:13] <andreycizov> Basically I would like to use ufw for automatic saving of iptables rules, but ufw seems to add a rule that enables connection rate limiting - and then restores /lib/ufw/user*.rules if I delete these from there. Should I just forget about ufw and it would be more appropriate to use iptables?
[13:13] <de-facto> MartyH_ i guess you can see it in "diskmgmt.msc" too
[13:13] <newman> I just wanna open a root file in write format from gedit and for that i would have to provide root permissions to it somehow !
[13:14] <ysionneau> allright answer was not to use libstdc++:i386 but lib32stdc++:amd64 ... ok
[13:14] <dury> default Desktop Environment LXDE
[13:16] <newman> hey its done ! You just need to open the application from superuser and that would automatically provide root permissions to that app!
[13:16] <de-facto> MartyH_ you also can see it from within then ubuntu livecd as well as from windows command line "wpeutil UpdateBootInfo" and then "reg query HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control /v PEFirmwareType"  0x1=bios and  0x2=uefi
[13:17] <MartyH_> that's not showing any mbr or uefi-related things that I recognize de-facto. Just the partitions I mentioned earlier (and one entire disk I left out, that I use for storage and want to keep that way which is probably irrelevant)
[13:17] <dury> newman, can you assist?
[13:17] <MartyH_> diskmgmt.msc that is, not the stuff you mentioned just now
[13:18] <de-facto> MartyH_ open the command line in windows and execute the commands above so you will know
[13:18] <MartyH_> wpeutil isn't found
[13:18] <MartyH_> one moment
[13:19] <de-facto> MartyH_ then just skip that step and go to the second command
[13:20] <de-facto> MartyH_ http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/29504-bios-mode-see-if-windows-boot-uefi-legacy-mode.html
[13:20] <newman> dury, What's the problem ?
[13:21] <dury> newman: want to switch on the computer and the desktop environment appear - Lxde
[13:21] <MartyH_> that's listed as bios
[13:22] <MartyH_> or "legacy"
[13:22] <dury> newman: always appear a window or screen to type default user pwd
[13:23] <newman> dury, On a black n white screen ?
[13:24] <de-facto> MartyH_ ok great then you dont need to worry about efi fancyness, if you create new partitions with "something else" for '/' use a primary mbr (msdos) partition. i guess the first megabyte of your device will already be empty so you can install grub into that area (installer should ask you about it)
[13:24] <davidmichaelkarr> I noticed a problem with creating desktop shortcuts in 16.04. The icon is ignored, and the name just gets the file name.
[13:24] <dury> newman: no just loggin screen to type default user pwd, see?
[13:25] <an_> In Ubuntu how do I find which flag has been used to mount, auto_da_alloc or noauto_da_alloc?
[13:25] <MartyH_> that sounds perfect de-facto, thanks for all the help.
[13:25] <newman> Does any ubuntu logo appear or it straight goes to that?
[13:25] <paws> i am on ubuntu 16.04, is it possible for me to downgrade to php5 from php7 ?
[13:26] <MartyH_> I'd have to double-check whether or not the first MB is really actually free, if not, I'll pop back by, but I can make some progress now.
[13:26] <newman> dury, Does any ubuntu logo appear or it straight goes to that?
[13:26] <MartyH_> \o
[13:26] <de-facto> MartyH_ you may want to create a swap partition (about twice your system RAM memeoy size) for suspend to work correctly, but you also can use a swapfile on your root fs (but then you wont be able to suspend )
[13:26] <dury> newman, no
[13:27] <mahgad> i want best iptv player ubuntu
[13:28] <traceur920> Hi, I'm having problems with session crashes, I'have a log of Xorg saying something about a segmentation fault, can somebody help?
[13:29] <dury> newman, it looks like you aren't experienced in that
[13:29] <newman> Means you watch a screen that shows the name of your pc on top and then asks login and then password to proceed?
[13:29] <newman> And no GUI ?
[13:29] <zetheroo> I am trying to enable a system service in 16.04 but am being met with this: http://tinypic.com/r/j9y5nt/9
[13:29] <younder> newman, sould fine by me
[13:30] <dury> jessusss with a GUI
[13:30] <zetheroo> I am following the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/613451/ubuntu-15-04-join-domain-problem-pbis
[13:30] <younder> newman, all you need is a term, a a  htpd server and a plan
[13:30] <de-facto> lol i hate when that happens, just wanted to tell him he could also reach us from within a livecd environment
[13:31] <younder> newman, must be a Windows man to expect all servers to serve a windows environment.
[13:31] <newman> dury, I thought that was a grub issue but if you are able to see the GUI then try pressing alt+F7
[13:31] <dury> wrong person to ask for help
[13:32] <traceur920> anyone here who can help?
[13:33] <younder> indeed alt F1 gives you a tty, and alt-F78 gives you a xscreen in the default dist
[13:33] <effectnet> i cant get the wallch wallpaper to work anymore
[13:33] <dury> newman, you haven't got any idea what I'm talking about fir get it
[13:33] <younder> no the old wallpaper went down
[13:33] <newman> fir?
[13:33] <effectnet> what is 'old wallpaper'?
[13:34] <younder> on the background rightclick and select a new backgroun
[13:34] <dury> newman, fir = for
[13:34] <dury> newman, fir = forget, sorry
[13:35] <vitasoft_> !
[13:35] <an_> .
[13:35] <vitasoft_> ?
[13:35] <vitasoft_> ,
[13:35] <DJones> !bot | vitasoft_
[13:36] <newman> Dury, I have faced an issue as such but that was the problem with grub loader. I need a little elaboration such as a screen shot to assist you further !
[13:37] <DJones> vitasoft_: If you have an Ubuntu support question, just ask it in the channel, general chat in in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:37] <Harry-GAA001> Hi folks, I have an error I could use your expertise on please. I have a website running with 123reg that they screwed up. They say they've sorted it but now when I try to connect I get the following error: Warning: mysqli::mysqli(): (HY000/2002): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in /var/www/vhosts/globalairalliance.com/httpdocs/core/classes/ezdb/ezdb_mysqli.class.php on line 
[13:38] <marianne_> Lidde11!
[13:38] <vitasoft_> !
[13:38] <Harry-GAA001> Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? I have already checked my.cnf and the path is correct. I have also checked that the mysqld.sock is where it should be
[13:39] <Guest68024> ok, trying to create a bootable/live usb for installation and it is erroring out... fails when it gets to the boot loader
[13:39] <Guest68024> any ideas what's wrong?
[13:39] <dury> newman, I told you ... all I want is to load the default Desktop Environment I'm using when I switch on PC, see?
[13:40] <dury> newman, I think it's pretty clear though
[13:41] <gspe> Hi all, what is the best way to cnfigure libinput on Ubuntu 16.04
[13:41] <newman> dury, are you a guy?
[13:42] <vitasoft_> пидарас он )))
[13:42] <dury> newman, forget it
[13:43] <Ccdc_DuckZ> hi, can somebody help me figure out how to build this? https://github.com/realincubus/clang-refactor I have clang-3.8 installed but I'm not sure where I should clone this thing (LLVM_ROOT not set for me)
[13:43] <DJones> !ru | vitasoft_
[13:44] <newman> dury, right now I'm stuck somewhere else, but if you want immediate solution to that, what you can use a live usb for that !
[13:44] <vitasoft_> (.)(.)
[13:44] <newman> * what you can do is
[13:45] <Harry-GAA001> Can anyone help me fix this error on my site please :): Warning: mysqli::mysqli(): (HY000/2002): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in /var/www/vhosts/globalairalliance.com/httpdocs/core/classes/ezdb/ezdb_mysqli.class.php on line 101 Fatal error: Uncaught Last Error
[13:46] <dury> newman, no way to use live usb. it's an old PC though
[13:49] <zetheroo> trying to enable a service with 'systemctl enable lwsmd.service' and getting 'Failed to execute operation: too many levels of symbolic links'
[13:51] <the_ghost> Harry, you should give people a little time to see your questions. Also you may want to try mysql channel. There are a lot of things that can cause you error. You will need to provide a lot more information, but probably none of the causes has anything to do with ubuntu
[13:51] <traceur920> log of the Xorg crash, in case someone whants to help.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16080512/
[13:53] <gps_> anybody there.??
[13:54] <usr13> gps_: Only about 2k
[13:54] <usr13> (1959)
[13:56] <dury> traceur920, I've saw and no idea what's wrong, sorry buddy
[13:56] <Harry-GAA001> Thank you The Ghosts, I will try that channel then. :)
[13:58] <gps_> does somebody actually tals here?
[13:58] <gps_> talk*
[13:58] <dury> traceur920, I've seen... sorry
[13:59] <\9> ?ask | gps_
[13:59] <compdoc> its not really a chat channel
[13:59] <\9> !ask | gps_
[13:59] <traceur920> dury: thanks man for the answer, can help saying that I suspect an interaction with Telegram client ?
[13:59] <DJones> gps_: This is a support channel for ubuntu, if youhave a supprt question, please ask it,general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:59] <gps_> yes i had a problem
[14:00] <dury> traceur920, wish I can solve your issue.... believe me... no idea, buddy :-(
[14:01] <gps_> my pointer becomes invisible after re login
[14:01] <traceur920> dury: no problem, thank you anyway!
[14:01] <gps_> a temp fix ( if it helps )
[14:02] <an_> I ran a "sed -i ... " command in loop to replace text in a file in an ext4 mount and the file got deleted. When I used noauto_da_alloc the error did not happen again. ext4 doc says auto_da_alloc is safer than noauto_da_alloc. What is the possible cause of the error?
[14:02] <gps_> i changed the action to be taken on closing screen lid to just turn off the screen
[14:02] <dury> traceur920, you can't load X, or what?
[14:04] <ikonia> traceur920: change your xorg module to a failsafe one like vesa
[14:04] <ikonia> the intel module is segfaulting, but it also appears to have AIGLX in play
[14:05] <traceur920> dury: I can load X, i use it normally, but randomly at a certain point the session closes itself and kick me back to the loading of lightdm greater. Seems to happen more often (if not exclusively) when running telegram official client
[14:05] <dury> traceur920, follow ikonia
[14:06] <traceur920> ikonia: yes... but I do not know what you are talking about when stating that I have AIGLX in play ^^'
[14:06] <Harry-GAA001> Anyone know why I can't seem to send a comment in other channels such as MySql channel?
[14:07] <OerHeks> some channels need registration, Harry-GAA001, but that should be on your screen too
[14:07] <OerHeks> !register
[14:07] <ikonia> traceur920: swap the moudle out to the vesa one in the xorg config
[14:07] <ikonia> traceur920: it won't be as visually slick, but test it for stability
[14:07] <Harry-GAA001> Thanks guys :)
[14:08] <dury> have to go
[14:09] <dury> catch you all later... take care :-)
[14:10] <gobelin789> Hello! After an update of one of my machines all interfaces to the outside (like usb, ethernet, wlan, card reader, sound) aren't working anymore. lshw -C network says the hardware is unclaimed. it seems like all the drivers are not loaded on startup. what can I do? (Kubuntu)
[14:10] <traceur920> ikonia, be patient, how do I do that? done thousand of times but I can't remember
[14:12] <traceur920> and, anyway, this is a really infrequent problem, so I hardly can replicate it for testing purpose
[14:12] <plytro> does anyone have an issue where the mouse cursor isn't shown after coming out of suspend?
[14:13] <Harry-GAA001>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Harry-GAA001 argxrrjdslmd
[14:13] <newman> hey can anyone help me with this command :- ipsec up hide
[14:16] <newman> Has anyone got any knowledge of the ipsec command :- ipsec up hide ??
[14:19] <jair> hello all, I am trying to get ibus to respond to the [ctrl+spacebar] key combination to change languages... but it is not working for me??
[14:19] <nicomachus> newman: never heard of it.
[14:20] <newman> nicomachus, kind of stuff related to vpn ! Any expert here you know for vpn?
[14:30] <liga> Hi my sound icon is lost. But sound is still working
[14:33] <OerHeks> liga, go into systemsettings > soundsettings, and enable the tray idon again
[14:34] <ducasse> does the mini.iso contain the same installer as the server image?
[14:34] <liga> OerHeks: thanks works
[14:35] <OerHeks> the mini iso can be used for different desktop environments (kde, xfce, etc), a multitude of different servers, multimedia creation tools, media center (mythbuntu), etc. You can also select "Manual package selection" which will take you to aptitude .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:36] <OerHeks> so basicly yes
[14:37] <ducasse> OerHeks: ok, thanks. I just want a minimal install, so I'll try that.
[14:38] <OerHeks> some desktops allow "--no-install-recommends" on the cli, which can give a pretty small system
[14:40] <ducasse> OerHeks: yes, but I don't need X at all, I was just considering the mini.iso as an alternative to debootstrap.
[14:40] <nhocnho> :)
[14:41] <OerHeks> ducasse, sure, that will do
[14:42] <dennisd> hi, since ZFS is supported by default since 16.04 LTS, does that mean that there are plans for a FreeNAS alternative for ubuntu or is that too optimistic?
[14:43] <Bad_Dream> noooo more overclocking
[14:43] <Bad_Dream> overclocking bad
[14:43] <usr13> Bad_Dream: So, how long did it take you to learn that lesson?
[14:44] <Bad_Dream> p95 ran for a split second BAM cpu temp 50c...fan goes fkn wild screens go black and system reboots
[14:44]  * OerHeks loves underclocking
[14:44] <usr13> Bad_Dream: (But, really, it depends on the processor, some stable some not so.)
[14:44] <Bad_Dream> oops wrong channel even
[14:44] <Bad_Dream> was just testing....i put everything back normal now....its plenty fast for me.... its an fx 8350
[14:45] <usr13> Overclocking rarely produces a noticeable difference (you can not overclock enough to make a real difference in performance).
[14:45] <abolfazl123> hi.I have a server on my ubuntu.i conecct my phone to pc but i dont access to the server in my phone.what the problem?
[14:45] <Bad_Dream> ya i agree usr13...its just for geek bragging rights hehehe
[14:46] <usr13> Underclocking sometimes leads to more stability, (but again, it depends on the CPU).
[14:46] <Bad_Dream> well it runs 4.1ghz stock and thats pretty darn fast
[14:47] <Mahaut> Hi everyone! Just updated to 16.04 and have problem with ALC887 integrated sound card, looks like it useing for it wrong module and recorgnizes it as snd_hda_codec_via insteed of snd_hda_codec_realtek.
[14:47] <abolfazl123> hi.I have a server on my ubuntu.i conecct my phone to pc but i dont access to the server in my phone.what the problem?
[14:49] <outside> abolfazl123: If you connrected your phone to server on your ubuntu, and pc don't have access, then who was phone?
[14:50] <usr13> abolfazl123: Android?
[14:50] <abolfazl123> yes
[14:51] <an_> TJ-: I now ran a "sed -i ... " command in an infinite loop(using bash script) to replace text in a file in an ext4 mount The file gets deleted after a while. When I used noauto_da_alloc mount option the error does not happen. ext4 doc says auto_da_alloc is safer than noauto_da_alloc. What is the possible cause of the error?
[14:52] <usr13> !info mtpfs | abolfazl123
[14:53] <tone_2_timez> Hello. Anyone home?
[14:54] <usr13> abolfazl123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/504408/mtp-android-mount
[14:54] <sailendra> hello there
[14:55] <abolfazl123> usr13:thanks
[14:55] <tone_2_timez> Hi. I have a question that hopefully someone can answer...
[14:55] <sailendra> i am trying to mount new hard disk partition to my ubunut system, i add one entry to my fstab in order to mount drive on boot, whenever i reboot my system hard drive partition is not mounted
[14:55] <sailendra> what can reason??
[14:56] <usr13> abolfazl123: Just looked again and that askubuntu link is a bit old, but probably not much has changed.
[14:56] <abolfazl123> usr13:ok man.
[14:56] <usr13> abolfazl123: If you install the mptfs software, it should work ok.
[14:56] <auronandace> sailendra: can you show us the fstab entry?
[14:57] <sailendra> auronandace: yes wait a second
[14:57] <Mahaut> modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek and pulseaudio -k is not working, in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf when I add line options snd_hda_intel=generic is not working, anybody can help?
[14:57] <tone_2_timez> I am using ubuntu 14.04 and I have both playonlinux and wine installed. Whenever I go into files to view pictures, wine opens then rapidly closes. Any idea why?
[14:58] <usr13> sailendra: cat /etc/fstab |nc termbin.com 9999  #Send url
[14:58] <TJ-> an_: it's a lack of using fsync() in the application; see http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/tree/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt#n312
[14:59] <usr13> sailendra: May be that you need to use blkid
[14:59] <sailendra> usr13: i am using blkid
[14:59] <sailendra> let me show you
[14:59] <usr13> sailendra: Ok, well let's have a look
[15:00] <phaze75> hi there, i would like to activate amavisd's "***Spam***" tag for subject lines. I am hassling two days now and still no success. maybe somebody could provide a different view...
[15:03] <sailendra> user123irc: https://gist.github.com/sailendraw/ead572aaa75a8591cc134fd8aeb23a21
[15:03] <sailendra> auronandace: https://gist.github.com/sailendraw/ead572aaa75a8591cc134fd8aeb23a21
[15:03] <sailendra> sorry for using gist as i am using vmware usr13 auronandace
[15:03] <irated> Um.. Everyone is recommending to disable encryption to connect to "Desktop Sharing" from windows.
[15:04] <irated> Is there some better way to do that? Disabling security settings feels like a date rape drug.
[15:05] <usr13> sailendra: ls /home/axonschool/sdcard #Is it just blank?
[15:05] <OerHeks> phaze75, for amavisd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/mail-filtering.html are our wiki pages
[15:05] <usr13> sudo blkid |nc termbin.com 9999
[15:05] <sailendra> yes
[15:05] <usr13> sailendra:  ^^^^^^
[15:05] <tone_2_timez> part
[15:06] <sailendra> usr13: yes its blank i can manually mount it boot not on boot
[15:06] <abolfazl123> if i update my ubuntu to last version.all of my program unistall?
[15:06] <usr13> sailendra: mount /home/axonschool/sdcard
[15:06] <usr13> sailendra: What does that do?  ^^^^
[15:07] <sailendra> usr13: nothing its my local folder
[15:07] <usr13> sailendra: What do you mean nothing?
[15:07] <usr13> sailendra: ls /home/axonschool/sdcard
[15:08] <sailendra> ls /home/axonschool/sdcard gives be null output, if i use mount /dev/sda2 /home/axonschool/sdcard it will show the content
[15:09] <Spr1ng> Does anybody know how to enable the vtop-style graphs in the latest htop release?
[15:09] <usr13> sailendra:  sudo blkid |nc termbin.com 9999
[15:09] <Dumle29> Hi there, I'm having some issues with a fresh ubuntu gnome install on my new laptop, I'm having some problems installing some apps from the software center
[15:09] <sailendra> usr13: ok
[15:09] <Dumle29> I'm using an HP envy 13-d086 with ubuntu gnome 16.01
[15:09] <usr13> sailendra: If you issue command:  "mount /home/axonschool/sdcard" does it mount it?  If you issue command "umount /home/axonschool/sdcard" does it un-mount it?
[15:10] <Dumle29> aditionally, I get an internal error at boot, which seems to be related to plymouth
[15:12] <phaze75> OerHeks: Thanks, I know both pages by heart now. amavis filtering with spamassassin and clamd works perfectly. But: the spammy emails that I would like to check manually do not get the "spam" tag added in the subject field.
[15:12] <usr13> sailendra: When you type "mount -a" will it mount it?  When you type "umount /home/axonschool/sdcard" does it un-mount it?
[15:12] <Dumle29> anyways. The problems I'm getting with installing apps, is that I push install, a bar appears under the install buttons, it never progresses past the start position, then it dissapears leaving me with the install button
[15:12] <sailendra> usr13: yes it does
[15:13] <abolfazl123>  if i update my ubuntu to last version.all of my program unistall?
[15:13] <Dumle29> this is the case for google chrome (a downloaded .deb) and quassel client, an irc client in the store
[15:13] <phaze75> OerHeks: I want them automatically sorted in my email client
[15:13] <KeyboardNotFound> How to see what's happening when I type service start (any service), I need the script and configuration loaded (program parametars)
[15:13] <nak> i'm setting up a new digital ocean droplet with ubuntu and i'm faced with the choice of 14.04 LTS and 16.04 LTS. is there any reason I wouldn't choose the 16.04 ?
[15:13] <KeyboardNotFound> I can't find my service in /etc/init.d
[15:13] <sailendra> usr13: https://gist.github.com/sailendraw/20d5619763fb8f0aca98e3355b718635
[15:14] <usr13> sailendra: Do you want it mounted read only or read/write?
[15:14] <ducasse> Dumle29: try installing with apt-get or dpkg, then post the error-message you get
[15:14] <sailendra> usr13: readonly
[15:15] <irated> rSeriously, This remote desktop issues needs taken care of. Telling people to disable encryption is bad. Thats like saying put a keylogger on the net without detection.
[15:15] <an_> TJ-: It works for noauto_da_alloc and does not work for auto_da_alloc. Not the other way round.
[15:15] <KeyboardNotFound> What's the difference between /etc/init and /etc/init.d ?
[15:16] <usr13> sailendra: Are you Ubuntu 14.04 or ????
[15:16] <an_> TJ-: I just change the mount flag from auto_da_alloc to noauto_da_alloc and the file never gets deleted
[15:17] <sailendra> yes 14.04 server
[15:17] <sailendra> usr13: 14.04 server
[15:17] <Dumle29> https://pastee.org/95w2t
[15:17] <Dumle29> ducasse: ^
[15:18] <usr13> sailendra: Try changing errors=remount-ro to auto,errors=remount-ro
[15:19] <ducasse> Dumle29: that message tells you straight out what you need to do.
[15:19] <Dumle29> well, yeah. I thought -f was force
[15:19] <Dumle29> not fix
[15:19] <sailendra> usr13: ok
[15:19] <TJ-> an_: I was showing you what the option does, not trying to explain the effect you're seeing, but why are you running an endless loop constantly processing the file like that?
[15:21] <an_> TJ-: Ok. I ran into an error where my fstab got deleted while a script was editing it. This was the way I could reproduce it.
[15:22] <ducasse> Dumle29: if you want to install a .deb you have downloaded, use gdebi instead of dpkg - it takes care of dependencies.
[15:22] <Dumle29> thanks :)
[15:23] <Dumle29> I thought the software center would as well.
[15:23] <Dumle29> that's what I originally did
[15:23] <bleki> hi guys. After my Ubuntu frozen and I hard reset it, I can't boot it again. I run now from live USB and tried to use boot repair to fix it, but it doesn't help. Here is a log from boot repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/16082398/ . Can anyone help. I dont care to much about system, I can install it again, but I have there many personal files which I would like to recover
[15:23] <sailendra> usr13: not working,
[15:23] <TJ-> an_: why not use inotify to trap any writes? as in insert a line before your "sed -i ...": "inotifywatch -e close_write /etc/fstab"  - that way the loop will pause at the inotify until some process opens the file for writing and then closes it again
[15:23] <Dumle29> ducasse: I also tried to manually apt-get install that dependency, and failed. But that was before I restarted.
[15:23] <TJ-> !info inotify-tools | an_
[15:24] <wad> WTH? This morning, I log into my Ubuntu machine, and all my environment settings are reset. All the stuff I had locked to the launcher is gone, my display settings all reverted to default..... Any ideas what may have happened??!?
[15:25] <Harry-GAA001> Hi folks, I'm hoping someone can help me with an SQL problem. I would do it in the MySQL room but it won't let me chat in there even though I've registered my nickname etc.
[15:25] <an_> TJ-: Ah! I will try that. Thanks for the help.
[15:25] <usr13> sailendra: did you use command mount -a  and then umount /home/axonschool/sdcard"
[15:26] <usr13> ?
[15:26] <ducasse> Dumle29: the best GUI apps for installing software are synaptic and gdebi-gnome, they're worth checking out if you want to avoid the command line.
[15:26] <usr13> sailendra: ... to test?
[15:26] <sailendra> usr13: yes
[15:26] <Dumle29> ducasse: Thanks. I'll definetly take a look. Or stick to the cli. I dunno. Thanks for the help though :)
[15:27] <Harry-GAA001> I am getting an error Warning: mysqli::mysqli(): (HY000/2002): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[15:27] <wad> Yesterday I was playing with some Ubuntu dev stuff, maybe that messed me up? I did "apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal", would that have messed me all up?
[15:27] <usr13> sailendra: Try changing "auto,errors=remount-ro" to "auto,user,rw"
[15:27] <Guest19867> ok, USB install failed....the netbook was terminal anyway
[15:27] <TJ-> an_: sorry, I mistyped that command, It should be "inotifywait -e close_write /etc/fstab" - there is another related command inotifywatch but it has a different purpose
[15:27] <Harry-GAA001> As I said, I would be asking this in the mysql channel but no matter what I do it won't let me chat in there
[15:27] <sailendra> usr13: hmm let me try that also
[15:27] <ducasse> Harry-GAA001: check that the mysql server process is running.
[15:27] <Guest19867> looking for reviews for the new LTS
[15:27] <TJ-> wad: no
[15:28] <Harry-GAA001> Yep done that ducasse. It's running fine
[15:28] <wad> My ccsm settings are all reset too. >_<
[15:28] <usr13> sailendra: Well, I meant ro not rw
[15:28] <wad> CRAP, I'm gonna have to spend hours this morning reconfiguring the universe! >_<
[15:28] <TJ-> wad: check the last modification times of the ~/.config/ directory tree; try to pinpoint if an wholesale change was made
[15:29] <ducasse> Harry-GAA001: well, try restarting it maybe. for some reason your app can't connect, maybe the socket is stale or using the wrong path.
[15:29] <sailendra> usr13: tell me how do i increase my root partition size, i mean there are two drives sda1 and sda2 if i can merge sda2 to sda1 problem will be solved as i am not able to extend my partition size
[15:29] <TJ-> wad: start with "ls -latr $HOME/" in case something has swapped out the old .config/ to a back-up name
[15:30] <curlyears> why would the bitchX make command fail claiming "/isr/bin/bash" does not exist?  I am running a basic desktopinstall of trusty 14.04.4
[15:30] <usr13> sailendra: Use gparted LiveCD
[15:30] <usr13> sailendra: Wait, is it LVM?
[15:30] <sailendra> usr13: yes, i am in server cli based
[15:30] <Harry-GAA001> Yes, I've stopped it and restarted it a number of times now and I've run updates and even reinstalled, all still getting the same error
[15:30] <TJ-> curlyears: are you mixing architectures, i386 and amd64 for example, and don't have the foreign architecture enabled?
[15:31] <TJ-> Harry-GAA001: does the socket at that path/location exist?
[15:31] <ducasse> Harry-GAA001: then check that the app is trying to use the same socket that the mysql server is using.
[15:31] <sailendra> usr13: i tried using fdsik but not been able to extend my root partition
[15:32] <Harry-GAA001> yes, I have checked the my.cnf file and it's showing the correct path. I've checked the location and file exists too
[15:32] <usr13> sailendra: If what you sent is the complete fstab file, you only have one of them mounted, (sda1 vs sda2)
[15:32] <curlyears> TJ-:   not that I know of.   Am running an 8 core AMD64. and just downoaded "bitchx" from their site.  They didn't say anyyhinh sbout architectures or alernate vesrions\
[15:32] <TJ-> sailendra: can you do "pastebinit <( sudo lsblk )" ?
[15:32] <Harry-GAA001> How do you mean check that the app is trying to use the same socket as mysql?
[15:32] <TJ-> curlyears: it sounds like the bitchx executable is 32-bit. do "file path/to/bitchx" to check
[15:33] <joko> Hello, is it possible to do an Ubuntu 16.04 server installation with zfs as root?
[15:33] <ducasse> Harry-GAA001: then I would ask in #ubuntu-server. better chances of getting an answer there. I meant that the path is the same both for the app and the db.
[15:33] <francoisk> nak,  if you need 5 9's then you should probably go with 14.04. 16.04 is bound to have some problems, still.
[15:34] <sailendra> TJ-: i am in next machine without internet cannot paste error to pastebin, the only thing i can do is tell you the output
[15:34] <ducasse> joko: not straightforward.
[15:34] <francoisk> didn't realise my window was scrolled up
[15:34] <nak> francoisk "5 9's" ?
[15:34] <Harry-GAA001> Yep that's all ok. I will try the ubuntu-server room then. Thanks for trying :)
[15:34] <TJ-> sailendra: OK, is /dev/sda1 an LVM partition?
[15:34] <francoisk> nak, 99.999% uptime
[15:34] <Mahaut> Guys!! Can somebody help me to HDA Realtek sound on 16.04 ?
[15:34] <sailendra> TJ-: yes
[15:34] <green64286> set theme greenbox
[15:34] <Mahaut> *to fix
[15:34] <TJ-> sailendra: and what is sda2 ?
[15:34] <nak> ah ok, i didn't know there was slangs for that
[15:35] <ducasse> joko: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-16.04-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[15:35] <sailendra> TJ-: 65GB
[15:35] <nak> francoisk i don't have unreasonable expectations. thank you
[15:35] <nak> 16.04 it is
[15:35] <TJ-> sailendra: i meant what type is it
[15:35] <francoisk> nak, i was kidding a little; there could be pretty annoying problems, it's so new
[15:36] <francoisk> i don't speak from experience, but that's just my gut feel
[15:36] <sailendra> TJ-: sorry ;) its ext4 partition created with fdisk as primary one
[15:36] <TJ-> sailendra: what is the name of the volume group in sda1 ?
[15:36] <usr13> TJ-: Apparently, he is only using one of the two partitions, (if this is really his complete fstab file):  https://gist.github.com/sailendraw/ead572aaa75a8591cc134fd8aeb23a21
[15:36] <nak> francoisk ok
[15:36] <francoisk> I could very well be totally wrong. fact that DO is offering it probably means they've checked it
[15:37] <bleki> anyone is willing to help with my disc problem?
[15:37] <nak> is there anyone else that can tell me why i wouldn't pick 16.04 over 14.04 ?
[15:37] <curlyears> what file do I issue the 'file' command for?  There is no binary yet
[15:37] <usr13> bleki: Sure
[15:37] <curlyears> nak:   Because it isn't stab.e or ready for release yet?
[15:38] <TJ-> sailendra: assuming that RIGHT NOW sda2 has nothing in it you wish to save, then you can make it belong to the LVM volume group with "pvcreate /dev/sda2; vgextend <VG-NAME> /dev/sda2" - that's all there is to it. To see the disk space is available do "vgdisplay"
[15:38] <sailendra> TJ-: hmm
[15:38] <sailendra> let me install lvm2 to do the work
[15:38] <TJ-> sailendra: as I said, only do that if /dev/sda2 has nothing in it you wish to keep
[15:39] <sailendra> TJ-: yes its empty nothing in it
[15:39] <TJ-> sailendra: it must be installed; you said sda1 is an LVM
[15:39] <sailendra> TJ-: yes its lvm
[15:39] <TJ-> sailendra: so, just those 2 commands I gave you
[15:39] <curlyears> TJ-: what file do I issue the 'file' command for?  There is no binary yet
[15:39] <sailendra> TJ-: ok
[15:39] <bleki> usr13: I posted  above description of my problem, not sure if should do it again?
[15:39] <TJ-> curlyears: "file path/to/bitchx"
[15:40] <usr13> bleki: Let me scroll up and see.
[15:40] <TJ-> curlyears: I don't know where you've put 'bitchx' so you'll have to put the correct path
[15:40] <Pici> TJ-: he hasn't compiled it yet
[15:40] <TJ-> Pici: curlyears oh!
[15:41] <bleki> usr13: I can copy paste, it would be easier
[15:41] <TJ-> curlyears: sorry, I thought you meant you were trying to execute it, not build the executable :)
[15:42] <curlyears> TJ-:  "file file-file-path-to-bitchx" complains there is nno such file or directory
[15:42] <curlyears> no, I am trying to builtit\
[15:43] <curlyears> yeah, I was beginnning to suspect such a confusion
[15:43] <TJ-> curlyears: ahh, I misinterpreted your use of the word "make" - didn't realise you were referring to the 'make' command :)... but same reasoning stands. However... we install "/bin/bash" not "/usr/bin/bash" so it looks like the Makefile has got the incorrect path encoded in it
[15:43] <technomancer21> Ohai
[15:43] <curlyears> Ah, thanks TJ-!
[15:43] <curlyears> that i can fix
[15:43] <TJ-> curlyears: so it is likely there is either some variable you can configure to fix that, or elseyou'll have to search the MAkefile and make a manual fix
[15:44] <usr13> bleki: What happens when you try to boot normally?  (Do you get an error?)
[15:44] <usr13> bleki: Are you running the liveCD now?
[15:44] <TJ-> curlyears: check top of Makefile for something like "SHELL := /usr/bin/bash"
[15:45] <bleki> usr13:  yes it shows grub recover with error: failed reading sector (sector number) from hd0
[15:45] <cherry_lin> does anyone know how does RAID-10 creation works in ubuntu installer's partitioner?
[15:45] <usr13> bleki: Are you on the LiveCD now?
[15:45] <bleki> usr13: yes im on live USB now
[15:45] <cherry_lin> I want to make a RAID-10 of 2x 360GB Seagates + 2x 320GB WDs
[15:45] <usr13> bleki: OK, try this:
[15:46] <cherry_lin> which is better – make mirrors of WD+WD and Seagate+Seagate, and then RAID-0 of these two mirrors, or leave everything to installer's RAID-10 thing?
[15:46] <usr13> bleki: fsck.ext4 -y /dev/sda1
[15:46] <cherry_lin> I'm asking because by default installer's RAID-10 asks for minimum of 2 disks...
[15:47] <cherry_lin> which seems strange to me
[15:47] <TJ-> cherry_lin: why? 2 is required to mirror, but you only need 1 to stripe (same as JBOD)
[15:47] <bleki> usr13: this is what I receive : fsck.ext4: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1 Could this be a zero-length partition?
[15:48] <cherry_lin> TJ-: I mean why 2 in raid-10 creation screen?
[15:48] <TJ-> cherry_lin: I think I'd want to make sure it put the mirrors on the 2 same-sized disks though, I don't know that the installer has that much intelligence encoded
[15:49] <TJ-> cherry_lin: it should be obvious, after you create the mirror (RAID-1) you've now got 1 logical device left, but you can still apply RAID-0 to that logical device
[15:49] <TJ-> cherry_lin: so the minimum is what is required  for the underlying mirror
[15:49] <cherry_lin> TJ-: I see. So two mirrors of matched disks, and RAID-0 of these two mirrors can't be worse in performance in comparison to installer's raid-10 tool?
[15:50] <TJ-> cherry_lin: well, you can't fully mirror a pair of 360G and 320G, you'd lose 40GB
[15:50] <TJ-> cherry_lin: and so I'd want to be sure the 2 360G were paired as a mirror
[15:50] <ducasse> cherry_lin: I'd seriously consider using ZFS instead of mdadm for that setup, put that's just me...
[15:50] <cherry_lin> yeah, I know, I don't want those 40gb
[15:51] <TJ-> cherry you'd then have a final logical device of 360+340 = 700G
[15:51] <Wulf> I just upgraded my desktop from 15.10 to 16.04 and no problems so far!
[15:51] <cherry_lin> hmmmm, ZFS sounds interesting
[15:51] <cherry_lin> I actually have 3x 1TB HDDs more
[15:51] <ducasse> cherry_lin: it's *really* nice when you get used to it.
[15:52] <cherry_lin> I will PM you about ZFS if you don't mind
[15:52] <TJ-> cherry_lin: ZFS is fine... if you're already expert in how to use its tools to recover from disk loss... if not, stick with what you know, or be prepared to do some lab work
[15:52] <ducasse> cherry_lin: sure.
[15:52] <bleki> usr13: any thoughts?
[15:52] <frostschutz> cherry_lin, you can still use those 40GB in a separate RAID-1... if you partition the disks accordingly, with software raid (mdadm) you can do whatever
[15:52] <ptrz> is it a known issue that do-release-upgrade doesn't recognize an available update on 14.04.4 LTS?
[15:53] <Pici> !ltsupgrade | ptrz
[15:53] <Myrtti> ptrz: planned feature.
[15:53] <technomancer21> hey umm, anyone know much about the old wubi installer? does it still work? i dont wanna go messing with partitions just yet and i want to toy around with ubuntu for a bit. i am running an older model lenovo g570 bios based laptop that came with windows 7, recently got the free win 10 update.
[15:53] <Myrtti> "it has always been so"
[15:53] <ptrz> why the delay?
[15:53] <usr13> bleki: It looks to me like you have a failing or failed hard drive.
[15:53] <cherry_lin> frostschutz: frostschutz I hope it doesn't slow down whole raid-10 performance while I'm writing to these two 40gb mirrored chunks lol
[15:53] <cherry_lin> frostschutz: but I guess it does
[15:53] <usr13> Maybe someone else will look.
[15:53] <nacc> ptrz: LTS takes until .1 to stabilize to ensure a smooth LTS->LTS upgrade
[15:53] <TJ-> technomancer21: doess the laptop support virtual machines? that might be a better way to go?
[15:53] <auronandace> technomancer21: wubi is no longer supported and never was a good idea
[15:54] <usr13> bleki:  "/dev/sda1: Input/output error"
[15:54] <nak> curlyears how is it not stable yet ? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[15:54] <Guest18219> hello guys
[15:54] <nak> this links to the 16.04 as teh default download
[15:54] <bleki> usr13: im worried the same, I dont know what is wrong. Since I start use ubuntu on this laptop it is I think 5th disk
[15:54] <Guest18219> i am on ubuntu 14.04 server
[15:54] <technomancer21> yeah well virtual machines tend to lag pretty unholy. i liked the idea of running the os directly without messing with partitions.
[15:54] <usr13> bleki: Something has happened to sda1, which is your main partition that Ubuntu lives on.
[15:55] <TJ-> nak: a .0 point release is always expected to shake out some bugs once it goes on general release, the beta tests onlny catch so much, so generally .1 is when its recommended to expect a release to be stable, which will be sometime in July
[15:55] <bleki> usr13: and this disk is less than a year old
[15:55] <joko> ducasse: so, I have to use a desktop ISO?
[15:55] <TJ-> technomancer21: if the motherboard/CPU support VT-x hardware acceleration and the hypervisor you use also, then there should be little appreciable slowdown
[15:55] <usr13> bleki: Well, you could run a test on the HD. It may be that the first partition has suffered unrecoverable file system errors.  Not sure why but...
[15:55] <Guest18219> i am on ubuntu 14.04 server i have 2 domain names that are configured i need to use 2 projects for every domain how can i do that in ubuntu ?
[15:56] <usr13> bleki: Is this Ubuntu 14.04.4?
[15:56] <technomancer21> and how would i tell if the motherboard and cpu supported VT-x
[15:56] <ducasse> joko: not sure, I haven't actually tried the 16.04 server image yet, but it should have access to the same packages.
[15:56] <Voop10> hey guys. if someone could help me get virtualbox 5.0 installed id be very happy
[15:56] <bleki> usr13: yes
[15:57] <TJ-> technomancer21: There's sometimes a BIOS option to enable virtualization extensions; also, there should be a (Windows) program that'll tell you if the CPU supports VT-x and possibly VT-d
[15:57] <TJ-> technomancer21: VirtualBox is a popular open-source hypervisor, and works on Windows and Linux
[15:57] <joko> ducasse: no parted :S
[15:57] <Voop10> VT-x is a setting in the BIOS
[15:58] <Voop10> And it's usually hidden
[15:58] <joko> So, grub supports booting with zfs as root?
[15:58] <technomancer21> which explains why i've never seen it.
[15:58] <duckducky> hi I'm having a problem when i start a service
[15:58] <joko> It's unclear in that wiki page
[15:58] <usr13> bleki: I usually use the utility on hirens BootCD to test Hard Drives, http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/
[15:58] <curlyears> dummy me:  I have bitchx up and running, but it logged me onto EFnet by default, and I don't remember how to change nets
[15:59] <TJ-> Voop10: depends on the firmware, and it's only hidden on limited consumer systems. AMD based systems have it's equivalent enabled by default in the CPU, but Intel's are the opposite and requiring it to be enabled
[15:59] <duckducky>  odoo.service - Advanced OpenSource ERP and CRM server    Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/odoo.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)    Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2016-04-27 11:54:28 EDT; 10s ago   Process: 1002 ExecStop=/bin/kill $MAINPID (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)   Process: 997 ExecStart=/opt/odoo/openerp-server --pid=/run/odoo/odoo-server.pid --syslog $OPENERP_ARGS (code=exited, status=1/FAILU
[15:59] <TJ-> technomancer21: what is the make/model of the laptop?
[15:59] <usr13> bleki: So fsck will not repair the filesystem, it says there's nothing there.... I don't know.  Maybe someone else has an IDEA?
[15:59] <technomancer21> Lenovo G570
[16:00] <usr13> bleki: Did you by the hard drive new? (Or was it a used one?)
[16:00] <technomancer21> intel, i3, AMD graphics.
[16:00] <duckducky>  odoo.service - Advanced OpenSource ERP and CRM server    Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/odoo.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)    Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2016-04-27 11:54:28 EDT; 10s ago   Process: 1002 ExecStop=/bin/kill $MAINPID (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)   Process: 997 ExecStart=/opt/odoo/openerp-server --pid=/run/odoo/odoo-server.pid --syslog $OPENERP_ARGS (code=exited, status=1/FAILU
[16:00] <Voop10> the bios on my machine is so long and compicated
[16:00] <duckducky> anyone know how fix it
[16:00] <bleki> usr13: it was new, system can see it but can't mount or do anything with it
[16:00] <TJ-> technomancer21: see http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1818824/activate-intel-laptop-lenovo-g570.html
[16:00] <nacc> joko: i think grub might, but it's not supported in ubuntu
[16:01] <frostschutz> cherry_lin, that's how disks work... anything you write to disk slows down everything else that also writes to disk at the same time... it's not a problem, really
[16:01] <usr13> bleki: The utility on hirems boot cd will tell you how many hours or days the hard drive has been powered up and used.  Maybe there is a Ubuntu utility for that. (Maybe on the LiveCD.)  (That's what I'm hoping someone else will tell us here...)
[16:01] <Voop10> hirens boot cd is an amazing utility
[16:01] <cherry_lin> frostschutz: well anyway good idea, thank you
[16:01] <Voop10> well. it has a ton of amazing utilities
[16:02] <cherry_lin> frostschutz: probably can use this 40gb mirror as some kind of rescue OS storage
[16:02] <PhoenixSTF> is there a L2TP client for 16.04?
[16:02] <effectnet> can i use hirens to delete all the partitions off of a drive?
[16:02] <Voop10> even the stripped version of windows xp has helped me fix issues
[16:02] <Myrtti> smartmontools shows that info, IIRC, usr13
[16:02] <Voop10> effectnet: yeah
[16:03] <Voop10> it has a disk utulity
[16:03] <Voop10> utility*
[16:03] <effectnet> cool ok i will try it next time
[16:03] <bleki> usr13: i have no idea, thats why I'm looking for help here. And again it happened in the worse moment, when I had to submitt 3 assignment in next 2 weeks
[16:03] <Voop10> effectnet: what issue are you having? i either missed it or wasnt here
[16:03] <Voop10> just curious
[16:04] <effectnet> i think the hdd went bad on this asus laptop
[16:04] <usr13> bleki: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16082398/ tells us "/dev/sda1: Input/output error"  and at the end, it says to "repair-filesystems"
[16:04] <effectnet> so prolly getting new hdd for it
[16:04] <Voop10> effectnet: will it boot from a thumb drive?
[16:04] <effectnet> yes i got them using it that way now lol
[16:04] <usr13> bleki: fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1   #Try again
[16:05] <TJ-> bleki: give me a moment I'll look at your bootrepair pastebin
[16:05] <technomancer21> much thank TJ! much thank indeed. got everything i need now.
[16:06] <bleki> usr13: ok
[16:06] <Voop10> i had to install a new OS on a notebook once. no optical drive and once you booted from a thumb drive the usb driver would 'shut off' 2 seconds later
[16:06] <dionysus69> I just setup home server using kodibuntu (xfce ubuntu), how do I share dirs on network with nfs or smb ?
[16:06] <Voop10> so i had to boot windows xp from hirens boot cd and 'reboot' the usb driver
[16:06] <bleki> usr13: same result
[16:06] <usr13> bleki: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16082398/ also tells us: "cannot access /home/usr/.config: No such file or directory"  (Looks to me like your data is gone.)  If fsck can not do anything with it, not sure what else we can do.  If anyone else has any idea(s) *please* say so.
[16:07] <TJ-> bleki: can you show us "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log" from the live environment
[16:08] <usr13> TJ-: Looking at http://paste.ubuntu.com/16082398/ and I do not see his fstab file.  (But that may be because it can not read sda1.)  Right?
[16:08] <technomancer21> i'll be damned
[16:08] <technomancer21> VT-x is on already. gotta be by default cuz i never found it in the bios
[16:08] <TJ-> bleki: usr13 this could be a false report from bootrepair... note for sda "Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes" ... if bootrepair tools are assuming an incorrect sector size... it'll report false errors
[16:08] <TJ-> usr13: correct
[16:08] <usr13> yea ok
[16:09] <TJ-> usr13: the "short read" could mean it's tried to read a sector and expected 4096 bytes and only gor 512 (which is what we'd expect for a 512 byte logical translation)
[16:09] <Dumle29> Hey there. any fingerprint support? My sensor has the VID:PID of 138a:0050
[16:09] <bleki> TJ-: sure. http://pastebin.com/0HT8bhLQ but is so long
[16:10] <duckducky> Hello I'm having this issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/16083938/
[16:10] <TJ-> bleki: the longer the better as far as I'm concerned - means more information :)
[16:10] <usr13> TJ-: For sda1 it says, "Boot sector type:  Unknown"
[16:10] <TJ-> usr13: well it would, only old DOS file-systems contain boot sectors
[16:11] <somsip> duckducky: where did you install odoo service from?
[16:11] <TJ-> bleki: that confirms the problem: "Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed" ... you've a total disk failure
[16:11] <mikubuntu> trying to do software updates but the updater is failing, telling me to check internet connection. clearly, i'm connected -- what gives?
[16:11] <duckducky>  /etc/systemd/system
[16:12] <somsip> duckducky: read the question again
[16:12] <tumbler> how to install teamviewer by repos?
[16:12] <duckducky> can you rephrase
[16:12] <somsip> duckducky: where did you download it from to install it
[16:12] <bleki> TJ-: so no hope for me?
[16:12] <philipp_> hi, my clean installation of xubuntu takes very long to boot. I fond https://bpaste.net/show/3a5b464282dc in my dmesg
[16:13] <duckducky> somsip: i dont know. it is relevant?
[16:13] <somsip> duckducky: yes
[16:13] <usr13> TJ-: Boot Info says that sda2 is "Extended Partition"
[16:13] <duckducky> somsip: I dont remember :/
[16:14] <duckducky> somsip: i had the service working and now it is getting this error
[16:14] <usr13> TJ-: bleki And it reports size of sda1 as "690.7G"
[16:14] <tarik> Hi all
[16:15] <wsxws> im runnig ubuntu on a bananapi. connecting via putty (ssh) works fine. when i connect using sftp (filezilla) it also connects but does not login (there is no password sent by the client). looking at netstat at the same time it tells me connected and accepted. any idea abou that issue ?
[16:16] <usr13> TJ-: I'm wondering now if the LiveCD has sda1 mounted?  (For some reason.) And that would be why fsck will not check it?
[16:16] <TJ-> usr13: bleki the partition size information is coming from the partition table... it looks like when the PC crashed the hard disk didn't correctly pull the heads away from the platters, or suffered some other kind of problem, that has caused physical damage to the surface
[16:16] <usr13> I mean LiveUSB
[16:17] <usr13> bleki: Has the laptop been dropped, or fallen to the floor or something like that?
[16:17] <TJ-> usr13: bleki you need to use the smartctl SMART enquiry tool to check the drive's own error logs
[16:17] <ubuntu1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16084111/
[16:17] <ubuntu1> need app?
[16:17] <tarik> I've question, How can'I check if the password in /etc/shadow is strong, there is any way or script ???
[16:18] <mikubuntu> W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 63F7D4AFF6D61D45 W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[16:18] <usr13> TJ-: Is smartctl on the LiveUSB?
[16:18] <bleki> TJ- usr13: one more thing, before I ran boot repair i could see disc from nautilus, but couldnt mount it, now i dont see it
[16:18] <ubuntu1> An error occured when executing: g++
[16:18] <TJ-> bleki: "apt install smartmontools; pastebinit <( sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda )"
[16:18] <bleki> usr13: to be honest. not once
[16:18] <usr13> bleki: That could be because of damage.
[16:18] <TJ-> bleki: prefix apt with 'sudo 'of course
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> tarik  if it's hard to guess, it's strong
[16:19] <usr13> bleki: Try the command TJ-  gave you.
[16:19] <bleki> usr13 TJ-: im doing it now
[16:20] <vcarney> Help! Problem with postgres starting. Ubuntu 14.04 - http://dpaste.com/2W9EQGW
[16:20] <TJ-> bleki: if the disk really is damaged, and you want any chance of recovering any data from it, I'd STRONGLY recommend you power-down and remove the disk from the laptop for now, to prevent further damage by it being powered up
[16:21] <tarik> MonkeyDust : I've mail server  with ore than 100 users, so i want to test if the users using the bad or strong password, actually we hacked tree times.
[16:22] <usr13> bleki: Also, that HD is probably under warranty and you can get it replaced.  (It's Western Digital?)
[16:22] <bleki> usr13 TD-: http://pastebin.com/9mTrEBMg
[16:23] <bleki> usr13: yest wd
[16:24] <bleki> usr13: i will check, I think I bought it on amazon
[16:24] <TJ-> bleki: usr13 "Completed: read failure       90%      1814         2048"
[16:24] <TJ-> bleki: that '2048' is the first sector of /dev/sda1
[16:25] <usr13> bleki: TJ- "the read element of the test failed"
[16:25] <dionysus69> should I use nfs or smb for network sharing ? what are strengths of one over the other?
[16:26] <TJ-> usr13: bleki and "Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   001   001   000    Old_age   Always       -       962" ... 962 uncorrectable sector errors
[16:26] <usr13> TJ-: Oh, so a bunch of the first sectors are bad, so it won't boot any more. Ok
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69  smb is for windorws shares
[16:26] <bleki> TJ-: it sound terrible, but i dont know what it mean
[16:26] <dionysus69> MonkeyDust: so even if there is one windows client involved I am forced into smb ?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> !samba
[16:27] <TJ-> bleki: data recovery may be possible, in a controlled forensics/data recovery environment. You need to power that disk down now before the damage gets worse. If you need to use the laptop from the Live ISO then remove the hard disk from the PC for safety.
[16:27] <usr13> TJ-: Which would mean that it can no longer be used to boot, but could be used for storage (only).  TJ- Correct?
[16:27] <TJ-> usr13: I wouldn't use it for anything now - with that amount of errors something very significant has gone wrong and could get worse quickly
[16:28] <usr13> TJ-: Yea, ok
[16:28] <ducasse> tarik: then you woul need to crack the encryption on each password, that's the only way to check.
[16:28] <dionysus69> ok I ll go nfs way
[16:28] <bleki> TJ-: ok do it now
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:29] <tarik> ducasse: Yes thanks, I'm still looking how can'I do that
[16:29] <TJ-> bleki: in *theory*, a data recovery operation would have another identical or larger sized disk, connect both to the a stable PC, and use "ddrescue" to copy every salvagable sector from the bad disk to the good. Then, on the *good* disk steps can be take to recover data and even possibly the file-system into a state where files can be read off
[16:29] <dionysus69> one more thing, I am using xubuntu and there are no suggestions in gnome terminal, I checked the $PATH and it has all default values. What do I need to add to path in order to get suggestions like apt-get somePackag and where I can get tab suggestions?
[16:29] <dionysus69> thanks MonkeyDust
[16:30] <ducasse> tarik: that can take weeks, months or years.
[16:30] <nacc> dionysus69: probably command-not-found?
[16:30] <nacc> dionysus69: not sure what you mean by tab suggestions, do you mean tab completion?
[16:30] <dionysus69> nacc: no suggestion works except of the current dir suggestions
[16:30] <tarik> ducasse: :( we will try
[16:31] <cheater_no1> guys, what is the difference between buying a Meizu Pro Ubuntu Edition vs Not Ubuntu Edition and putting Ubuntu Touch myself? it is very hard to order the Ubuntu edition to Argentina...
[16:31] <dionysus69> tab completion right
[16:31] <dionysus69> doesnt work
[16:31] <dionysus69> and as I am not a terminal pro, I really need tab completion :D
[16:31] <TJ-> dionysus69: is the shell bash?
[16:31] <ben__> buenos dias
[16:31] <dionysus69> how do i check TJ-
[16:32] <usr13> dionysus69: Until you get to the point that what you have supplied so far, is totally unique, you will need to hit tab at lest twice.
[16:32] <dionysus69> ye I pushed tab million times already since its a reflex and when it doesnt work it sucks
[16:32] <ducasse> tarik: you can force all users to change their password, and set a strict policy for what passwords will be accepted.
[16:33] <OerHeks> cheater_no1, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-touch
[16:33] <TJ-> dionysus69: "echo $SHELL"
[16:33] <dionysus69> ye returns /bin/bash
[16:33] <dionysus69> it is a kodibuntu xubuntu
[16:33] <dionysus69> is that a reason why this is happening?
[16:34] <Seger> how to reomve ubuntu SDK cleanly?
[16:34] <dionysus69> apt-get purge?
[16:34] <nicomachus> ben__: buenos dias, este canal es solamente inglés
[16:34] <TJ-> dionysus69: then type "complete" do you get a list of completions?
[16:34] <cheater_no1> OerHeks, thanks
[16:34] <Seger> i tried
[16:35] <dionysus69> TJ-: it output nothing when I input complete
[16:35] <usr13> dionysus69: apt-get install bash-completion ?
[16:35] <dionysus69> will try that sek
[16:35] <TJ-> dionysus69: then there's no compeletion package installed
[16:35] <usr13> dionysus69: or install --reinstal
[16:36] <usr13> !info bash-completion | dionysus69
[16:37] <TJ-> dionysus69: if that is kodibuntu it's not from Ubuntu, you need to ask the kodibuntu team for support
[16:38] <usr13> TJ-: He said it was xubuntu
[16:38] <usr13> ... but ...
[16:38] <nicomachus> he said it was kodibuntu xubuntu, actually.
[16:38] <usr13> nicomachus: Oh, didn't see that.
[16:38] <hehnope> Is there a known but with 16.04 and systemd ignoring _netdev for NFS shares upon boot?
[16:38] <hehnope> bug*
[16:39] <Bender__> hi
[16:39] <TJ-> hehnope: I seem to recall something along those lines for 15.10, systemd-networkd not honouring the _netdev fstab option?
[16:39] <wyre> hi guys! "pm-hibernate" does not work for me in Ubuntu 16.04
[16:39] <wyre> is there any reported issue?
[16:39] <hehnope> TJ-: yea, long boots for me; I check and it's because of the mount of the nfs share.
[16:40] <usr13> wyre: Try pm-suspend
[16:40] <TJ-> hehnope: there may be a bug report about it, I'll look
[16:40] <nicomachus> hehnope: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=_netdev+NFS&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.h
[16:40] <nicomachus> as_no_package=
[16:40] <nicomachus> sorry, terribly long URL.
[16:41] <nicomachus> perhaps this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1544480
[16:41] <dionysus69> TJ-, usr13: thanks now it worked, !! that package was not installed apparently, never encountered this before, it always came with stock image on both debian I have used and ubuntus
[16:41] <hehnope> not the same, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/763498/systemd-seems-to-ignore-netdev-option-for-nfs-in-ubuntu-16-04 where I posted more info
[16:41] <TJ-> hehnope: can't find anything though I'm sure there was something at one time
[16:42] <usr13> TJ-: Looks like they found it, (scroll up).
[16:42] <x23> \enjoy
[16:43] <hehnope> it's like it's ignoring _netdev completely; I just want to be sure that's a bug and not something I'm doing wrong.
[16:43] <TJ-> nicomachus: good find!
[16:43] <nacc> there's also LP: #1515446
[16:43] <TJ-> hehnope: let me look at the systemd source-code, see what's changed
[16:44] <nacc> but it does seem to be nicomachus'
[16:44] <nicomachus> if there's one thing I'm good at, it's googling.
[16:44] <nacc> heh
[16:44] <usr13> I wonder what NetworkManager would have to do with it?
[16:45] <usr13> hehnope: If you are using NetworkManager, maybe uninstall it and see?
[16:45] <hehnope> i like networkmanager on my laptop though ;)
[16:45] <usr13> hehnope: Well, yea, but it's not essential.  Using WiFi, right?
[16:45] <hehnope> Yep
[16:45] <usr13> hehnope: If so, you could try switching to wicd.
[16:46] <nacc> hehnope: well, and the nm bug should be fixed (was fixed in wily)
[16:46] <TJ-> hehnope: well, mount_is_network() correctly checks for _netdev in the fstab generator, so we need to see the file that the generator generated :)
[16:46] <usr13> hehnope: sudo apt remove networkmanager && sudo apt install wicd ?
[16:46] <hehnope> TJ-: Which file is this?
[16:47] <TJ-> hehnope: good question, I needto check where the generator files are kept... under /var/ I'd guess
[16:47] <usr13> hehnope: It's network-manager
[16:47] <usr13> !info wicd | hehnope
[16:48] <hehnope> TJ-: ./lib/lxcfs/cgroup/name=systemd/system.slice/media-share.mount look right?
[16:48] <TJ-> hehnope: under "/run/systemd/generator/" - see if you can spot the file related to your NFS mount
[16:48] <wyre> usr13, pm-suspend does work
[16:48] <TJ-> hehnope: there'll likely be 2 files, a .requires and a .service
[16:48] <ducasse> hehnope: have you tried creating a mount unit that explicitly depends on networking being up?
[16:48] <wyre> but I need hibernate
[16:49] <hehnope> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/XyvenvGz
[16:49] <usr13> wyre: Ok, well I dono
[16:49] <TJ-> ducasse: that is done automatically by the generator
[16:49] <philipp_> hi, my clean installation of xubuntu takes very long to boot. I fond https://bpaste.net/show/3a5b464282dc in my dmesg
[16:49] <ducasse> TJ-: ah, ok.
[16:49] <nicomachus> wyre: pm-hibernate
[16:49] <TJ-> hehnope: is there a .requires file to match?
[16:49] <nicomachus> wyre: more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[16:50] <hehnope> The only requires files I'm finding:
[16:50] <hehnope> ./remote-fs.target.requires
[16:50] <hehnope> ./swap.target.requires
[16:50] <hehnope> ./local-fs.target.requires
[16:50] <TJ-> hehnope: if not, then what ducasse says is correct - there needs to be a network up
[16:50] <wyre> nicomachus, pm-hibernate does not work
[16:50] <TJ-> hehnope: the remote-fs-target.requires please
[16:50] <wyre> I get a prompt back but does not hibernation
[16:50] <nicomachus> wyre: what version of ubuntu?
[16:50] <wyre> Is what I'm asking for :S
[16:50] <wyre> 16.04
[16:51] <TJ-> wyre: check /var/log/kern.log, or 'dmsg', for clues
[16:51] <hehnope> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/TGB99H4R
[16:51] <TJ-> wyre: possible reasons: insufficient swap size for the RAM, no swap enabled
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> philipp_  in a terminal, type    systemd-analyze blame
[16:52] <dan101> Hi, I'm having a problem with Steam on Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit. First it didn't launch at all. After get rid of some libs (just renamed them) it launched. But now games won't launch.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> philipp_  or this   systemd-analyze critical-chain
[16:52] <dan101> Found on the internet a fix for this too: LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/steam. However I have to do this manually because changing the .desktop file doesn't seem to affect it.
[16:52] <hehnope> So, a quick fix is to make this mount depend on network-manger correct?
[16:52] <frib> Hi.  I tried to compile hello world but i got /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++ .  When I tried to install it I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16084918/  What Can I do?? Thanks
[16:52] <wyre> TJ-, swap is enabled
[16:52] <wyre> and it has 5.6 gb
[16:52] <TJ-> hehnope: are there any other files in remote-fs.target.requires/ ?
[16:52] <hehnope> No just that one
[16:52] <wyre> ubuntu manages it in installation process
[16:52] <usr13> wyre: free
[16:53] <curlyears> hello,hello.  I'm finallly on a real client, not that ridiculous kiwi irc web client
[16:53] <wyre> (I've installed automatically ubuntu only in the HDD)
[16:53] <wyre> as unique system
[16:53] <usr13> wyre: free |nc termbin.com 9999   #Show us
[16:53] <wyre> is there free swap, believe me xD
[16:54] <philipp_> MonkeyDust, https://bpaste.net/show/9cd521e06582
[16:54] <pintman> congrat curlyears.
[16:54] <TJ-> hehnope: fix is to require the networking.service and/or network-manager.service
[16:55] <hehnope> Thought so, so: Require=network-manager.service correct? I cant seem to find the unit file though?
[16:55] <wyre2> usr13: http://termbin.com/rh9q
[16:55] <TJ-> hehnope: in /lib/systemd/system/
[16:56] <TJ-> hehnope: it's /lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> philipp_  try disabling unneeded services
[16:56] <hehnope> yea its not in there
[16:56] <usr13> wyre2: It appears that your swap partition is not enabled.
[16:56] <TJ-> hehnope: is N-M actually installed?!
[16:56] <usr13> wyre2: cat /etc/fstab |nc termbin.com 9999
[16:56] <hehnope> No, I mean the mount unit
[16:56] <wyre2> but system monitor does recognize it
[16:56] <choki> hello is there a mutt ppa? 1.6.?
[16:56] <curlyears> thanks for the  help getting bitchx compiled and installed, TJ-
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> philipp_  network manager takes over 5 secs to load
[16:57] <TJ-> curlyears: glad you sorted it :)
[16:57] <wyre2> usr13: http://termbin.com/3mhs
[16:57] <TJ-> hehnope: the network-manager package installs it: dpkg -S reports: "network-manager: /lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service"
[16:57] <philipp_> MonkeyDust, did you see my dmesg? usb took 40 sek to do someting
[16:57] <curlyears> now if I could just get the newest verson of cura to install.   When I follow the instrucriona on their download page, I get all sors of weird errors
[16:57] <TJ-> hehnope: if you've got the package installed and the service file is missing, then something is up with the system config
[16:57] <hehnope> Yea, but how can I make NFS mount with fstab require network-manager when it's auto generated?
[16:58] <wyre2> usr13: is it here :S
[16:58] <usr13> wyre2: sudo blkid |nc termbin.com 9999
[16:58] <ducasse> hehnope: create  a mount unit by hand.
[16:58] <wyre2> http://termbin.com/k6jo usr13
[16:58] <TJ-> hehnope: you create an over-ride under /etc/systemd/network/ I believe, but you need to check that with systemd docs
[16:58] <rubiksmomo> What's the correct way to update Nvidia driver? Last time I tried from the system settings my X stopped working.
[16:59] <philipp_> MonkeyDust, [   77.430907 <   54,357039>] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 3
[16:59] <usr13> wyre2: fdisk -l |nc termbin.com 9999
[17:00] <wyre2> usr13: http://termbin.com/81i8
[17:00] <TOROSA> Hello ^^
[17:00] <wyre2> u need sudo to use fdisk :D
[17:00] <hehnope> Is there a location where I should put user created units?
[17:01] <TJ-> hehnope: /etc/systemd/{network,system} and so on
[17:01] <usr13> wyre2: swapon
[17:01] <wyre2> http://termbin.com/te2q usr13
[17:01] <usr13> wyre: And then:   free |nc termbin.com 9999
[17:02] <wyre2> http://termbin.com/4not usr13
[17:03] <EarloB> Hello, I just upgraded to 16.04 with the upgrade tool, but after the upgrade I can't login anymore. Not graphically nor in TTY. Any tips?
[17:03] <usr13> TJ-: What would the command "free" not show swap?
[17:03] <usr13> TJ-: See:  http://termbin.com/4not
[17:03] <wyre2> usr13: "interacmbio" means swap
[17:03] <pintman> EarloB, what do you see after startup?
[17:04] <wyre2> http://termbin.com/5mo7 usr13
[17:04] <usr13> wyre2: Ok, well it used to just say  swap  (Still does on mine.)
[17:04] <wyre2> usr13: my locale is Spain xD
[17:04] <wyre2> I'm from Spain ... hehe
[17:04] <usr13> wyre2: Oh, sorry.
[17:04] <wyre2> but any idea about what pm-hibernate does not work?
[17:04] <EarloB> pintman: First there is the normal loading bar with dots, and after that the login screen. I can choose if I want to use Unity or Gnome, and the top bar with volume control and etc.
[17:05] <TJ-> usr13: wyre2 "cat /proc/swaps"
[17:05] <Obiwantje> Good morning guys - I could a little help with a mdadm problem I am having - anyone up to take a peek at my pool that doesn't want to mount? - http://pastie.org/private/uuk6fpcpuwcirtc8faktq
[17:05] <pintman> EarloB, what happens if you try to login?
[17:05] <wyre2> TJ-: http://termbin.com/mi62
[17:06] <curlyears> can someone assist me in installing pastebin so I am prepared for whn i need assistyance?
[17:06] <pintman> curlyears, no need to install. its a webservice
[17:06] <TJ-> wyre2: so it looks correct. We return to examining the kernel log-file when you have attempted a hibernation, to find out if it tries and fails, or never tries at all.
[17:06] <k1l> curlyears: sudo apt install pastebinit
[17:06] <usr13> TJ-: wyre2 Looks normal to me.  I would say that for some reason, hybernate is just broken somehow.  I dono...
[17:06] <EarloB> pintman: screen flashes black for a moment, and I am back to login screen. In TTY it prints one line that flashes too fast for me to read it, resets the log and prompts me for the login name again.
[17:06] <irated> Next questions I want to make the dns timeout shorter in resolv.conff by adding option timeout 1?
[17:06] <irated> can network manager do that?
[17:06] <curlyears> don 't you have to have a locAL CLIENT?  uSED RO
[17:07] <nacc> curlyears: i think you mean pastebinit
[17:07] <pintman> EarloB, try another account.
[17:07] <TJ-> wyre2: try a pm-hibernate now, and then check for any sign the kernel tried with "tail -n 100 /var/log/kern.log"
[17:07] <EarloB> pintman: I tried to login as guest, but it didn't work. I suppose there isn't way to add users if I can't log in?  : /
[17:07] <TJ-> wyre2: it's possible that pm-hibernate's hibernate feature is disabled in its onfig and just needs enabling
[17:07] <pintman> can you login as root?
[17:08] <wyre2> TJ-: where is pm-utils config file?
[17:08] <wyre2> to check that?
[17:08] <k1l> pintman: this is #ubuntu. a login as root is not set up.
[17:08] <nicomachus> wyre2: I posted a link a long time ago that showed exactly how to do it.
[17:08] <wyre2> TJ-: http://termbin.com/6iun (after do sudo pm-hibernate)
[17:08] <nicomachus> wyre2: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[17:08] <EarloB> pintman: I haven't tried that.
[17:08] <nicomachus> under the "enable hibernate" heading.
[17:08] <k1l> EarloB: what video card do you have?
[17:09] <EarloB> k1l: NVIDIA geforce GTX 950m
[17:09] <wyre2> nicomachus: there is no any path to pm-uitils config file there
[17:10] <TJ-> wyre2: judging by those timestamps the only thing that has happened recently is the suspend
[17:10] <k1l> EarloB: what driver was installed before the upgrade?`where was the driver from?
[17:10] <wyre2> TJ-: exactly suspend does work properly
[17:10] <wyre2> hibernation doesn't
[17:10] <nicomachus> wyre2: touch /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla
[17:10] <TJ-> wyre2: when you do "sudo pm-hibernate" do you get any messages in the terminal?
[17:10] <pintman> EarloB, is there an ssh-service running you use to login from another computer?
[17:11] <wyre2> nicomachus: thats to enable the button, but pm-hibernate command should work man
[17:11] <wyre2> TJ-: any, absolutely
[17:11] <EarloB> k1l: I had some trouble with the drivers when using 15.10, I think I ended up just using the default one
[17:11] <rubiksmomo> How can I update my Nvidia driver? If I select "NVIDIA binary driver - version 362.63 from nvidia-352 (proprietary, tested)" from "Additional Drivers", I just get black screen after reboot.
[17:11] <k1l> EarloB: can you use ctrl+alt+f1 on login screen to get to a tty1?
[17:11] <wyre2> TJ-: http://paste.debian.net/442345/
[17:12] <usr13> rubiksmomo: nomodeset?
[17:12] <EarloB> pintman: I don't have set up any SSH system for myself.
[17:12] <usr13> !nomodeset | rubiksmomo
[17:12] <EarloB> k1l: I can get to TTY, but I can't log in there either.
[17:12] <TJ-> wyre2: OK, well the /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate script logs its actions so I'm guessing they'll either be in /var/log/syslog (look for the words "Inhibit" or "performing", or a dedicated pm log under /var/log/
[17:13] <rubiksmomo> thanks
[17:13] <ducasse> EarloB: boot from a live usb, mount the root disk, check /var/log/auth.log
[17:13] <TJ-> wyre2: you can force some info to the terminal by doing: "sudo sh -x /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate"
[17:13] <wyre2> there are pm-suspend.log and pm-powersave.log but there is no any pm-hibernate.log
[17:13] <wyre2> TJ-: :)
[17:13] <TJ-> wyre2: that should show us which command paths the script followed, and therefore what it is doing
[17:13] <ash_workz> what does -E do with sudo?
[17:14] <ash_workz> found it: "preserve environment"
[17:14] <TJ-> ash_workz: "man sudo"
[17:14] <ash_workz> TJ-: I actually did `info sudo`
[17:14] <TJ-> ash_workz: that works too :)
[17:15] <ash_workz> info looks slightly more "help"-ish than man
[17:15] <ash_workz> imo
[17:15] <TJ-> ash_workz: the GNU folks prefer info to man
[17:15] <ash_workz> I always get confused as to what GNU is excatly
[17:15] <TJ-> ash_workz: but generally there are many more man pages than info
[17:15] <ash_workz> TJ-: ^
[17:16] <EarloB> ducasse: Ok, I will try to do that once I am with a working PC that I can make a live USB with.
[17:16] <nicomachus> ash_workz: that's a deep, deep question. for another channel. haha. Ask RJS
[17:16] <nicomachus> s/RJS/RMS/
[17:16] <TJ-> ash_workz: GNU is the organisation/team behind the core libraries and tools which is why we call the operating system GNU/Linux - the GNU core libraries and tools on the Linux kernel
[17:16] <wyre2> TJ-: http://paste.debian.net/442348/
[17:16] <ash_workz> nicomachus: #RMS ?
[17:16] <sv2241> I'm trying to install 16.10 LTS from the ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.iso ISO loaded into a usb stick. Few screens after the installation started, I get an error that the setup cannot detect and mount the CDROM. WTF?!
[17:16] <nicomachus> ash_workz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[17:17] <TJ-> wyre2: great! lots of info... be back soon :)
[17:17] <ash_workz> the other thing I get confused about is POSIX
[17:17] <nicomachus> ash_workz: #linux might be a good place for that discussion.
[17:18] <TJ-> wyre2: according to that one of the pm-*.log files will be saying "log pm-utils does not know how to hibernate on this system."
[17:18] <wyre2> TJ-: this is syslog http://paste.debian.net/442348
[17:18] <wyre2> TJ-: ok I'll check that
[17:19] <usr13> wyre2: ls -l /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate
[17:19] <TJ-> wyre2: what does "cat /sys/power/disk" report?
[17:19] <wyre2> TJ-: that's pm-suspend.log http://termbin.com/gexz
[17:20] <ash_workz> I'll check it nicomachus
[17:20] <wyre2> http://termbin.com/zld3
[17:20] <wyre2> usr13:
[17:21] <wyre2> TJ-: http://termbin.com/azbr
[17:21] <TJ-> wyre2: "[disabled]" ... explains it. The kernel isn't able to support it
[17:22] <wyre2> TJ-: then?
[17:22] <TJ-> wyre2: you'd need to see "disk" there for hibernate to be supported
[17:22] <wyre2> TJ-: and how could I fix that?
[17:22] <wyre2> TJ-: maybe is 16.04 thing?
[17:23] <TJ-> wyre2: hang on, I gave you the wrong file to check! lets do that again... show us "cat /sys/power/state"
[17:23] <wyre2> TJ-: http://termbin.com/wa4e
[17:23] <TJ-> wyre2: On 16.04 here, I see "freeze mem disk"
[17:24] <mmkumr> I am have one problem when ever I am using sudo command it not asking password. Is there any way to solve this problem
[17:24] <TJ-> wyre2: so, as I said, you would need "disk" there too, and your system doesn't have it
[17:24] <wyre2> TJ-: then? what could I do?
[17:26] <ducasse> mmkumr: see if there are any files under /etc/sudoers.d that enable NOPASSWD for your user.
[17:27] <wyre2> TJ-: cannot I write there "disk"? xD
[17:28] <wyre2> maybe coudl be the intel microcode privative?
[17:28] <wyre2> can I install that driver TJ- (priprietary, I mean)
[17:29] <TJ-> wyre2: here's the kernel docs on /sys/power/state: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/tree/Documentation/power/states.txt
[17:29] <mmkumr> ducasse: no
[17:29] <ducasse> mmkumr: what about /etc/sudoers?
[17:30] <usr13> mmkumr: grep -v "#" /etc/sudoers
[17:30] <Budd> I'm having DNS trouble; if I try 'host host1.mydomain.org', I get no record, but if I query my nameserver directly, it's fine.
[17:30] <wyre2> TJ-: but I don't know about kernel parameters :(
[17:30] <effectnet> hmm wally the wallpaper program, stopped working
[17:31] <Budd> Since dnsmasq is taking all queries, /etc/resolv.conf doesn't help. How can I figure out how dnsmasq is failing?
[17:31] <mmkumr> ducasse: yes
[17:31] <mmkumr> ducasse: check out this line 'ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL'
[17:32] <ducasse> mmkumr: then just comment it out.
[17:32] <usr13> mmkumr: Comment that line out and uncomment the lie that just says ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:32] <usr13> *line* not lie
[17:33] <wyre2> TJ-: according to that  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate I should be able to do http://paste.debian.net/442371/
[17:33] <wyre2> but I cannot :S
[17:34] <TJ-> wyre2: the 'state' file is telling you the kernel cannot support disk aka hibernate. you'd need to use a userspace alternative. I don't use hibernate myself (only S3 suspend-to-RAM) so I can't speak from experience *but* I do know that hibneration has always had a poor history on many systems, withou frequent breakages in new releases
[17:34] <nicomachus> just never put it to sleep at all, like me. :D
[17:35] <nicomachus> work that system.
[17:35] <mmkumr> ducasse: Yes it work out thank for your help.
[17:35] <TJ-> wyre2: you can only write 'disk' to that node if it is already there. When you 'cat' it you read it, and it is telling you which options it'll accept. You did use the command wrong though, you need to have root privileges to write to it, as in "echo disk | sudo dd of=/sys/power/state"
[17:35] <TJ-> nicomachus: I only do that with my brain :p
[17:37] <wyre2> TJ-:  I'm only using what is recommended here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate
[17:37] <v4rp1ng> Hi everyone. Just one question is it: Storage > RAID5 > LUKS > LVM     OR    Storage > RAID > LVM > LUKS ? and why?
[17:37] <inocuous> Is there a progression of upgrading ubuntu 14.04 lts that would lead to the most recent lts release? Or would it require a complete new install?
[17:37] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | inocuous
[17:37] <usr13> Same here, I never hibernate, I only sleep about 6 to 7 hours per day
[17:38] <TJ-> v4rp1ng: LUKS > LVM will encrypt ALL your LVs; LVM > LUKS would actually be, for each LV, the need to do LVM > LV > LUKS > FS
[17:38] <inocuous> thanks nacc
[17:38] <vervet> wyre2: if you're on systemd, hybrid-sleep is a good alternative - i've only gotten hibernate working up to 90% of the time, the other 10% the system reboots with an error in the log about not being able to read from the swap partition
[17:38] <inocuous> apparently a common question. great to know
[17:38] <nacc> inocuous: yep, np :)
[17:39] <wyre2> vervet: I don't know if I'm on systemd xD
[17:39] <wyre2> I'm on ubuntu 16.04
[17:39] <v4rp1ng> TJ- is there a performance difference?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> wyre2  type   systemd-analyze
[17:40] <wyre2> http://termbin.com/ln0h
[17:40] <TJ-> v4rp1ng: no, just an admin one... LUKS > LVM is do once. LVM > LUKS needs redoing every time you create new LVs
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> wyre2  cool, that's faster than mine
[17:42] <vervet> wyre2: well yep, you are :)
[17:42] <squinty> Startup finished in 5.406s (kernel) + 10.698s (userspace) = 16.105s   new 128 gig ssd  :P
[17:42] <cristian_c> hi
[17:43] <wyre2> vervet: but systemctl hibernate does not work
[17:43] <cristian_c> I've tried to start my own .service file
[17:43] <wyre2> Failed to hibernate system via logind: Sleep verb not supported
[17:43] <wyre2> vervet, TJ-
[17:44] <cristian_c> but when I use systemctl start myservice.service, I don't see my service in the task manager
[17:44] <usr13> wyre2: compare "ls -l /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate" with "ls -l /usr/sbin/pm-suspend"
[17:45] <nicomachus> cristian_c: any output in the terminal?
[17:45] <usr13> TJ-: They are both symlinks.  Right?
[17:45] <cristian_c> I've also tried systemctl status myservice.service, but I can't figure out what issue
[17:45] <cristian_c> nicomachus: no
[17:45] <cristian_c> *what is the issue
[17:46] <vervet> wyre2: do you have a swap file/partition?
[17:46] <wyre2> usr13: http://paste.debian.net/442374/ with http://paste.debian.net/442375/
[17:46] <cristian_c> I've looked also at syslog, but I can't figure out what is the issue
[17:46] <cristian_c> nicomachus: if you want, I can pastebin the systemctl status command
[17:46] <zne9> hey
[17:46]  * nicomachus wonders if there's a --verbose option to get more info
[17:46] <wyre2> usr13: sorry http://paste.debian.net/442376/
[17:47] <usr13> TJ-: wyre2: If they both point to the same file, how does it do anything different?
[17:48] <usr13> TJ-: wyre2: And why would one work and the other not work?
[17:49] <lugo> can someone point me to a raspberry pi related channel?
[17:49] <v4rp1ng> TJ- okay thanks
[17:49] <lugo> please
[17:49] <TJ-> !info uswqsusp | wyre2 usr13
[17:49] <TJ-> !info uswususp | wyre2 usr13
[17:49] <TJ-> grrrr
[17:50] <k1l> !alis | lugo
[17:50] <TJ-> !info uswsusp | wyre2 usr13
[17:50] <lucas____> oi
[17:50] <rubiksmomo> Whenever I install Nvidia driver, I can no longer login to Ubuntu. When I login I just get thrown back to login screen. I used to get black screen, but "nomodeset" fixed that. How do I install the Nvidia driver so that it actually works?
[17:50] <k1l> lugo: if its about ubuntu on an rpi2/3 then ask in #ubuntu-arm
[17:51] <TJ-> wyre2: usr13 the script pm-action is symlinked, and it reads the name it was called under and deduces the METHOD from that: export METHOD="$(echo ${0##*pm-} |tr - _)"
[17:52] <usr13> lugo: /join #raspberrypi
[17:52] <lugo> thanks
[17:53] <wyre2> http://paste.debian.net/442387/ TJ-
[17:53] <siets> rubiksmomo: when you find out let me know :I
[17:53] <BadCodSmell> If I want to manually install a .deb but still want it to go through normal apt style dependency management how can I accomplish this without building a repository?
[17:53] <dionysus69> how do i start x11vnc at startup with just -usepw parameter?
[17:54] <ducasse> BadCodSmell: gdebi
[17:54] <TuPac^SHaKuR> anyone can help me ?
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> TuPac^SHaKuR  start with a question
[17:55] <usr13> TJ-: Ok, well, if I'd looked at the file pm-action, I would have seen it. Sorry...
[17:55] <usr13> dionysus69: Depends on what DE you use.
[17:56] <TuPac^SHaKuR> i have my pc ubuntu. IT WAS connected with a folder shared from windows 7 using smb://IP/folder it was fine but now i dont know why he ask me for user password. windows 7 is without password
[17:56] <punisher_> who is
[17:56] <punisher_> whois
[17:56] <TuPac^SHaKuR> when i put my ubuntu pc user password he dont accept it
[17:56] <pintman> punisher_, /whois
[17:56] <lugo> dammit, i messed up registration procedure so i cant join raspberrypi; maybe someone here can help, i just wanted to know if it is possible to use Rpi3 bluetooth adapter as an audio interface so i can stream music from the Rpi to an amp suppoerting bluetooth
[17:56] <TuPac^SHaKuR> MonkeyDust *
[17:56] <dionysus69> usr13: I use xubuntu
[17:57] <rubiksmomo> Whenever I install Nvidia driver, I can no longer login to Ubuntu. When I login I just get thrown back to login screen. I used to get black screen, but "nomodeset" fixed that. How do I install the Nvidia driver so that it actually works? siets also wants to know.
[17:57] <dionysus69> should I use rc.local?
[17:57] <lucas__> oi
[17:58] <anujan> Hi, can someone help me with an issue I'm having after updating to 16.04 LTS?
[17:58] <nacc> !ask | anujan
[17:58] <k1l> TuPac^SHaKuR: there were samba updates because of badlock security issue. that forced some changes.
[17:58] <siets> rubiksmomo: i actually had so much trouble with that i ended up disconnecting the graphics card and using the onboard graphics card for ubuntu. still haven't fixed it
[17:59] <huwjr> sorry - completely off topic but need a quick answer, figure someone here may know!! Does anyone know the TTL on A record at 123 reg? Can’t find it listed anywhere…
[17:59] <anujan> I'm unable to get past the splash screen after updating to 16.04 LTS. The error I'm seeing before it freezes is snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: failed to add i915 component master (-19)
[17:59] <rubiksmomo> siets, woah. I've been using the xorg driver on my laptop for weeks.
[18:00] <nacc> anujan: is it related to this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2301908
[18:00] <usr13> anujan: You would create script /lib/systemd/system/x11vnc.service and enable it with sudo systemctl enable x11vnc.service
[18:00] <TuPac^SHaKuR> k1l what to do now? i cant rollback updates for samda
[18:01] <TuPac^SHaKuR> i have 30pc with xubuntu and this problem is just for 1 pc :
[18:02] <usr13> dionysus69: You would create script /lib/systemd/system/x11vnc.service and enable it with sudo systemctl enable x11vnc.service
[18:02] <usr13> anujan: Sorry, wrong nick
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> huwjr  try here https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/contactus/
[18:03] <usr13> dionysus69: You could just put a start command in xubuntu's startup
[18:03] <dionysus69> usr13: how ? where is xubuntu's startup? :S
[18:03] <GeekNerd> Hey y'all its geeknerd here and we gonna format some hard drives
[18:03] <GeekNerd> FORMAT HARD DRIVES
[18:03] <akik> huwjr: you can see it with the dig command
[18:03] <El_Capitano> Hi there
[18:04] <GeekNerd> FORMATTING HARD DRIVES
[18:04] <huwjr> only time remaining on the ttl? i thought
[18:04] <El_Capitano> any Ubuntu-MATE user here?
[18:04] <dionysus69> usr13: is it rc.local?
[18:04] <k1l> GeekNerd: troll somewhere else
[18:04] <GeekNerd> lets sabotage some shit
[18:04] <GeekNerd> k1l: that was spamming
[18:04] <GeekNerd> trolling is more advanced
[18:04] <usr13> dionysus69: Settings -> Session and Startup
[18:04] <GeekNerd> hey
[18:04] <GeekNerd> easy
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> GeekNerd  stop
[18:04] <GeekNerd> okay
[18:05] <usr13> dionysus69: Under "Application Autostart" tab
[18:05] <RebootingServers> Hey y'all, we gonna reboot some servers today
[18:05] <RebootingServers> and create some disruptions
[18:05] <El_Capitano> Otay!
[18:05] <dionysus69> usr13: is there a terminal solution for this? my gui is different, I don't have settings at all
[18:05] <dionysus69> it is a minified xubuntu
[18:06] <TJ-> wyre2: trying to figure out your s2disk right now
[18:06] <anujan> nacc: I tried the solution in that thread by purging nvidia* but the issue still exists
[18:06] <nacc> anujan: ok, you may want to file a bug, i don't know much about what is happening
[18:06] <ph8> hi all, i've just downloaded 16.04 (ubuntu-gnome) and the installer is crashing when i press "plus" on the partitioner page, has anyone encountered this? I've tried in both 'desktop' and 'installer' mode
[18:06] <usr13> dionysus69: You should.  But you can just put a script for it in /usr/dionysus69/bin and point to it.
[18:07] <dionysus69> ok thanks usr13 :)
[18:07] <green64286> DISNEYLAND!!!
[18:08] <usr13> dionysus69: Yea, you can create the files manually.
[18:08] <usr13> dionysus69: Just a minute...
[18:09] <ph8> oh just found out the only drive it can see is the USB drive (for installation) - need to figure out how to get it to recognise my hard drive :-s
[18:13] <TJ-> wyre: I can't test uswsusp/s2disk here since I have full disk encryption and it doesn't look to have correctly detected the swap partition, either (reports a file-system UUID that doesn't exist on the system!)
[18:13] <streulma> the Ubuntu installer wont get to the disks screen to choose what can I do?
[18:13] <ph8> looks like AHCI mode fixed it
[18:14] <green64286> yes
[18:14] <akik> iptraf-ng's terminal is messed up. i don't know the correct TERM variable to use. any ideas?
[18:15] <debug0x1> How is everyone liking the new ubuntu?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> debug0x1  better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:16] <usr13> dionysus69: Do you have xfce4-goodies installed?
[18:16] <usr13> !info xfce4-goodies | dionysus69
[18:17] <green64286> yes
[18:17] <ash_workz> okay, thoroughly confused now
[18:18] <BadCodSmell> thanks ducasse
[18:18] <usr13> dionysus69: I think that if you have xfce4-goodies installed, you will have what I was telling you about.  Settings -> Session and Startup  (In the Applications menu.)
[18:18] <ash_workz> is unity the Desktop Environment for Ubuntu 14.x ?
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  it's the default, install another DE, logout, switch, login
[18:19] <green64286> ubuntu 16.04
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> green64286
[18:20] <dreamcat4> hi. i have upgraded to 16.04 today. and it seems something is different with the locale ?
[18:20] <streulma> I have a Primax Mighty Mouse Apple, why it has no scroll wheel in Ubuntu ?
[18:20] <ash_workz> MonkeyDust: so what is this thing I read about "$DESKTOP_SESSION" = ubuntu & ubuntu = "Gnome 3+Unity DE"
[18:20] <ash_workz> ?
[18:20] <green64286> yes
[18:20] <dreamcat4> they changed it so the old ways seems to have got broken
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  unity is a compiz layer over gnome3
[18:21] <ash_workz> Ubuntu has some base relationship with Gnome?
[18:21] <dreamcat4> i try locale-gen, which says it worked, but no folder /var/lib/locale is created anymore
[18:21] <green64286> yes?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  i guess that qestion is already answered now
[18:22] <TuPac^SHaKuR> what to do for samba asking user password?
[18:22] <green64286> ? did you msg me
[18:22] <BadCodSmell> you messaged me first
 asl?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> green64286  do you have an ubuntu question?
[18:23] <green64286> what is asl ?
[18:23] <BadCodSmell> I think he is confused by his irc client
[18:23] <green64286> srry
[18:23] <green64286> wrong window
[18:23] <wad> Just upgraded to 16.04 LTS desktop. On 14.04, I used xchat as my IRC. I just installed it on this OS, but I'm wondering if there is a better one that you guys recommend. Thanks!
[18:24] <usr13> dionysus69: Was just testing, xfce still honors the "Desktop" files you put in .config/autostart
[18:24] <BadCodSmell> wad there will be a way to search the packages to see
[18:24] <dreamcat4> wad: irssi, or weechat + glowing-bear
[18:24] <BadCodSmell> although a few years ago last time I checked xchat was the most mature graphical linux IRC client
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> wad  these are the most common https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[18:24] <Wreckerbloo> Alrighty, anyone know how to change the password to an administrator account, if the passcode is lost
[18:25] <Wulf> Wreckerbloo: you need to work on your terminology
[18:25] <BadCodSmell> Wreckerbloo if the FS is not encrypted, boot with a live cd and just chroot in
[18:25] <Wulf> Wreckerbloo: search for "recover root access" or similar
[18:25] <wad> Thanks, dreamcat4.
[18:25] <dreamcat4> wad: how about this? ---> https://github.com/dreamcat4/docker-images/tree/master/irc
[18:25] <BadCodSmell> You can probably tell passwd which file to use too
[18:25] <k1l> wad: hexchat is the new xchat
[18:26] <Wreckerbloo> well, my issue is i cant download without it, i cant update anything either
[18:26] <BadCodSmell> is "administrator" your only account?
[18:27] <usr13> dionysus69: So you can create a file something like this in .config/autostart/ (name it x11vnc.service or vnc.service or what ever) See: http://termbin.com/mztd
[18:28] <BadCodSmell> if so probably best to burn a live usb or cd from a friend's PC, or find the installer you used to build the system. Ultimate boot cd might also do password reset for linux but I never checked (very likely to have it though)
[18:28] <usr13> dionysus69: And then put the actual script in /usr/joe/bin/ that has the command to start x11vnc with what ever you need.
[18:29] <Wreckerbloo> if their is a PM please do, i am having issues keeping up
[18:29] <usr13> dionysus69: Now you may only need to put the command in the "Desktop" file.  But if that doesn't work, just use the script in /home/joe/bin  (I said /usr/joe/bin but that was mistake).
[18:31] <BadCodSmell> Wreckerbloo if you can explain your problem in more detail, more specifically, it might be possible to get more specific help, although it is the kind of thing you can google for. Are you sure you don't mean something like root password or sudo password?
[18:31] <usr13> dionysus69: Well, that was a bit hasty, I put "Exec=/home/joe/x11vnc.service" in the "Desktop" file but should be "Exec=/home/joe/bin/x11vnc.service" (where joe is your actual user name).
[18:31] <Wreckerbloo> I can exactly explain it, im new to Ubuntu
[18:31] <OerHeks> !password
[18:32] <Wreckerbloo> thank you!
[18:37] <ilpollo> #ubuntu-es
[18:37] <ilpollo> hi, i need the spanish chanel please
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> !es
[18:39] <ash_workz> do you have to compile from source to install kde on ubuntu?
[18:39] <ash_workz> (and is that a bad idea?)
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  wsimply type   sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> or plasma, even
[18:41] <ash_workz> kde !== kubuntu, though, right? although it comes packaged with kubuntu?... is that why "kubuntu-desktop" ?
[18:41] <ash_workz> MonkeyDust: unable to locate package plasma
[18:42] <dark_elf> where to go get some help with linux mint ? install problems for noobs
[18:43] <anticitizen> dark_elf: what's your problem? many issues are common to mint and ubuntu because mint is ubuntu based (except for the debian edition)
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  it's called plasma-desktop
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> !mint | dark_elf
[18:44] <dark_elf> ant... i got a problem with finding the usb installation with this computer - works on a new'er one :)
[18:44] <ash_workz> ah
[18:44] <ash_workz> I see
[18:44] <ash_workz> perhaps I added a kubuntu ppa for nothing
[18:44] <ash_workz> :P
[18:44] <anticitizen> dark_elf: you mean you can't boot from the USB?
[18:45] <dark_elf> i tryed going to the #mint irc but it didnt log in there.... thats why i ended up here :)
[18:45] <ash_workz> apt-get dist-upgrade does not move you from 14 > latest, right?
[18:45] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues
[18:45] <dark_elf> ant> yes... i can get it to boot with this image on a nother computer but not on this one....
[18:45] <anticitizen> ash_workz: I believe it's sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:45] <mikubuntu> W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 63F7D4AFF6D61D45 W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[18:45] <mikubuntu> trying to do software updates but the updater is failing, telling me to check internet connection. clearly, i'm connected -- what gives?
[18:45] <ash_workz> is there just a "release-upgrade" command as well?
[18:45] <anticitizen> dark_elf: have you checked your BIOS settings to make sure that boot from USB is enabled?
[18:46] <anticitizen> on your computer you may have to kit a key during startup to enable boot from USB as well
[18:46] <genii> !chrome-repo | mikubuntu
[18:46] <anticitizen> something like 'press escape for startup options'
[18:47] <dark_elf> ant>> yes ... moved the usb to start first - the usb gets detected here at the usb port (in the OS here) but not when i restart and wants it to start from the usb
[18:47] <dark_elf> (at the bios)
[18:48] <anticitizen> dark_elf: Does your computer briefly prompt you to press a key to edit startup options? My work laptop (an HP Elitebook) does this. You have about two seconds to hit ESC in order to select boot from USB
[18:49] <dark_elf> ant > i made it to a list where i can choose to start from the usb .... but doing so, still makes it start up from the HDD
[18:49] <ash_workz> bl
[18:49] <ash_workz> bbl
[18:49] <dark_elf> yes it does
[18:49] <dmak1112> join #moc
[18:50] <dark_elf> its F12 to choose what to boot from, and hitting the usb function ... just ends up using the next part
[18:51] <anticitizen> dark_elf: dunno then, sorry. if your usb stick works on another machine, it's obviously not something wrong with the stick
[18:52] <dark_elf> ant>> exactly ... and thats why i'm puzzled as well :)
[18:52] <dark_elf> ant>> thx though :)
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> dark_elf  further support in the !mint channel
[18:53] <dark_elf> i'll try and find the !mint channel thanks :)
[18:53] <dark_elf> monkeyDust :)
[18:53] <anticitizen> doubt the mint channel will be able to help, this obviously isn't a mint specific problem
[18:54] <anticitizen> i mean, someone there might be able to help, but not because it's the mint channel
[18:54] <anticitizen> i'd try ##linux
[18:54] <mikubuntu> genii: thx -- can u clarify that a little for me?
[18:54] <dark_elf> doesnt seem to find the !mint channel .....
[18:55] <dark_elf> but found the linux one thx ant
[18:56] <Guest18219> hello guys
[18:56] <comodin> hi, everyone. anybody can help me? after update to 16.04 mate - tilda's transparency not worked in startup. i need to restart tilda
[18:56] <it> hello
[18:56] <mikubuntu> genii: is THIS the complete command?:   sudo sed -i 's/deb http/deb [arch=amd64] http/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list /opt/google/chrome/cron/google-chrome
[18:57] <genii> mikubuntu: Yes. It makes apt only look for 64 bit files in that PPA
[18:57] <Guest18219> i get out of memory when i run matlab in windows for a big matris can i solve it in ubuntu ?
[18:57] <mikubuntu> genii: thx -- i'll try again
[18:59] <pa> hi
[18:59] <pa> i was searching packages.ubuntu for mplayer. I get: Package: mplayer (2:1.2.1-1)
[18:59] <pa> what does the 2: stand for?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> !info mplayer
[19:00] <pa> you see, version 2:1.2.1
[19:01] <zmon> How do I setup automount into /media/drive instead of /media/username/drive on 14.04  ?
[19:01] <Seveas> pa: that's an epoch. Sometimes upstreams do silly things with their versions (there are other reasons too), and we need to add an epoch to make sure newer versions are installed.
[19:02] <zmon> (for an unknown number of drives, not for a single known drive)
[19:02] <pa> ah okay
[19:02] <pa> thanks :)
[19:02] <pa> yes i guess at somepoint someone clever decided to use mplayer2 as mplayer version 2.0
[19:03] <pa> but that was a fork, and got abandoned
[19:03] <Seveas> pa: for example, when switching from date-based versions (20160427) to semantic versions (2.4.5), then we need to add an epoch to make sure 2.4.5 is installed
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> !info mplayer2
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> hm, indeed
[19:05] <Seveas> !info vim
[19:08] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: check for mplayer ;)
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  ut supra, just did
[19:09] <wad> So, I liked the ring switcher found in Compiz Config Settings Manager, in 14.04. Is that still here in 16.04?
[19:09] <Seveas> !info wodim
[19:09] <Seveas> epoch 9.
[19:09] <Seveas> mostly due to fights between developers
[19:09] <trax> I'm using a USB to try and troubleshoot some memory problems but the corrupted memory is preventing ubuntu 15.10 Desktop from loading. What can I do to make this USB more resilient against corrupted DIMM?
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> wad: 16.04 has still unity7, should be
[19:09] <wad> kk
[19:10] <ap0> Hello. Today I switched from bash to zsh and I am having a little bit of trouble with the prompt which looks as follows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16087446/  Everything works but it does not display the colors.
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> wad: i installed ccsm recently on xenial and working great
[19:10] <wad> Cool, thanks!
[19:11] <OerHeks> trax, remove one of the 2/4 memory dimms, to see which one is the bad boy
[19:11] <trax> Well I'm not trying to find the BAD DIMM now, thats not my goal
[19:12] <OerHeks> trax the only solution that sounds plausible to me, but oke, find a cure for your usb
[19:12] <OerHeks> trax, you try to boot to test memory for bad dimm .. now you don want to test it, strange.
[19:13] <trax> @ap0 does '\033[1;31m' work?
[19:13] <trax> like  BrightRed='\033[1;31m'
[19:14] <ap0> trax, as far as I know zsh handles colors different than bash. But I just solved the issue. I forgot to autoload colors (> autoload -Uz colors)
[19:16] <trax> @OerHeks I want to see if there are boot params or a smarted way of creating a live USB that was more resilient against it
[19:17] <ioria> trax, try this, but is quite old https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BadRAM
[19:17] <jgcampbell300> speech recognition?
[19:18] <trax> I want to create a USB with ubuntu that runs an automated diagnostic script at boot. But if I can't mitigate these memory issues, its kind of pointless
[19:18] <jgcampbell300> wow that was half a thought lol ... Does anyone know if speech recognition has advanced to a usable point for linux?
[19:18] <ahmed> hi
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> jgcampbell300: didnt test myself and use at own risk with ppa adding: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/02/linux-speech-recognition-using-google.html
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> jgcampbell300  i guess the people in #ubuntustudio know that better
[19:21] <trax> That  BadRam doesnt seem to solve it, since you kind of have to know where the bad ram is starting off
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | jgcampbell300
[19:22] <jgcampbell300> ty
[19:22] <ioria> trax, memtest ?
[19:22] <usr13> dionysus69: Still here?
[19:22] <trax> I guess is there a way I could have memtest start first or under a certain condition?
[19:23] <mistralol> trax: whats your problem?
[19:23] <trax> I want to create a USB that automatically troubleshooting a bunch of stuff at boot and creates a report. But it seems very susceptable to memory errors
[19:24] <mistralol> trax: what type of machine is it?
[19:24] <trax> its a server
[19:24] <mistralol> so somebody like dell made it?
[19:24] <trax> ya
[19:24] <mistralol> dell has a suit of tools to do that
[19:25] <trax> well I was hoping to make my own.
[19:25] <mistralol> trax: you have a spare 10,000 hours?
[19:26] <trax> not that much :)
[19:26] <mistralol> then just run memtest86 or something
[19:26] <jgcampbell300> trax: could look into something like tdk
[19:27] <menace> with which license is snapcraft published?
[19:27] <trax> well I suppose i can run memtest, but I still have the problem with my Live USB getting corrupted when I run into memory problems. forcing me to recreate it....
[19:27] <menace> i do not find ANY license, whether on github nor in the src package.
[19:28] <nacc> menace: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/COPYING
[19:28] <ioria> !info memetester
[19:28] <ioria> !info memtester
[19:28] <nownot> any way to take a blu ray folder structure to iso (udf 2.5) ?
[19:28] <mistralol> trax: memtest86 is < 100kb in size
[19:28] <reisio> nownot: what for
[19:29] <nownot> reisio : to have a blu ray iso instead of blu ray folder structure
[19:29] <nownot> not sure how to answer that question lol
[19:29] <menace> ah, cool thanks.
[19:29] <trax> Ok I will use memtest, but is there any boot params or better way of creating a live usb so that my usb doesnt get corrupted when I run into them.
[19:29] <reisio> nownot: what does that get you, in your mind?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> menace  https://launchpad.net/snapcraft GPL v3
[19:30] <nownot> reisio : i like isos more than folders for storage
[19:30] <trax> I don't always know i have corrupted memory until i run the OS and it freezes and corrupts my usb.
[19:30] <reisio> nownot: that's... silly :)
[19:30] <nownot> ok :/
[19:30] <reisio> nownot: you can do it, it's just pointless
[19:30] <mikubuntu> i see on this page http://news.softpedia.com/news/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-lts-trusty-tahr-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-503190.shtml that it's possible with ubuntu to upgrade directly from 1404 to 1604, is this possible with lubuntu as well? i can't seem to find anywhere to set upgrade preferences in lubuntu.
[19:31] <reisio> nownot: how does a directory differ from an image you have to mount and then access as a directory?
[19:32] <nownot> reisio : its just my preferred method. dont really want to argue with you on the benefits of one or the other, just the way I do things
[19:32]  * reisio shrugs
[19:33] <reisio> growisofs supports -udf
[19:33] <reisio> just point it at some data, and bob's your uncle, you'll be wasting your own time in no time
[19:33] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | mikubuntu
[19:33] <nacc> mikubuntu: possible, but not recommended
[19:34] <nownot> reisio : thanks for the direction. please do realize that different people have different ways of doing things, just b/c its not your way doesn't mean its wrong or a waste of time.
[19:34] <nownot> but I do appreciate the suggestion of growisofs
[19:35] <reisio> ways don't factor into it, it's a total waste of time
[19:35] <reisio> it's taking data out of a box and putting it into another box
[19:35] <reisio> all you do is lose time, just sayin'
[19:35] <nownot> noted
[19:38] <francoisk>  
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> someone found a nice GUI systemd services manager yet, would like one?
[19:39] <UserUS> So I discovered it is in fact a bad idea to have windows, ubuntu 14, and 16
[19:39] <ioria> !info systemd-gui
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ioria: tnx lemme try that one
[19:40] <ioria> lotuspsychje, transitional .. mmm
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> UserUS: dont speak general on this, whats your issue?
[19:43] <reisio> UserUS: it's a bad idea to have three things when you need only one
[19:43] <pilne> am I correct in thinking that if I want to make my 16.04 install tick over to 16.10 in the future all i have to do is adjust what kinds of notifications i get in 'software and updates'?
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> ioria: seems like its working
[19:44] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok, good to know
[19:45] <Bashing-om> pilne: Correct .. let the update-manager do it's job .
[19:45] <irated> am I missing responses or are you guys gravefully ignoring me?
[19:46] <pilne> i always try to let the included tools do their job first before going off 1/3 cocked on my own
[19:46] <pilne> :)
[19:46] <anticitizen> irated: i just scrolled up and don't see any previous messages from you
[19:47] <anticitizen> sure it wasn't in another channel?
[19:47] <OerHeks> irated, no question asked, nice attitude
[19:47] <Bashing-om> irated: I just joimed the channel, so can not say .. but ...... what is your issue .. maybe I can help ?
[19:47] <anticitizen> maybe he's having technical difficulties
[19:47] <irated> gisting
[19:47] <bipul> Where i can get the /etc/apt/source.list files data for Xenial?
[19:47] <justinb> hola
[19:47] <anticitizen> poor connection or something
[19:48] <anticitizen> dropping packets like they're hot
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> ioria: it creates the systemadm icon, but cant enable/disable from the gui too bad :p
[19:48] <Bashing-om> !dwetails bipul
[19:48] <Bashing-om> !details | bipul
[19:48] <ioria> lotuspsychje, oh
[19:49] <justinb> did anyone in the channel help put together the automatic nat'ing that ubuntu seems to have when you install lxc?
[19:49] <ioria> lotuspsychje, try systemd-ui
[19:49] <wad> So I just did a fresh install of 16.04 LTS desktop, with full disk encryption. After I switched to the latest tested NVidia proprietary video driver, though, when the box boots it has trouble letting me unlock the disk.
[19:49] <irated> OerHeks: Bashing-om anticitizen https://gist.github.com/pryorda/afb2099b9069a48d19d23bc08de11949
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> justinb  there's also #lxcontainers
[19:50] <wad> Sometimes it shows the dialog asking me to enter the passphrase, but I can't type in it.
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> ioria: it doesnt find
[19:50] <ioria> !info systemd-ui
[19:50] <Bashing-om> irated: I do not open unknown links .. what is that link about ? in reference to what ?
[19:51] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ^
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> ioria: the install of systemd-gui installed it also
[19:51] <irated> that is a gist bruh :)
[19:51] <anticitizen> irated: are those timestamps correct?
[19:51] <irated> they are mt yes
[19:51] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i see
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> ioria: but seems like that doesnt run seperate
[19:51] <anticitizen> what time zone?
[19:51] <irated> Mountain time
[19:51] <irated> its currently 13:52 here
[19:52] <anticitizen> that's hours ago... you're asking now if someone was ignoring you hours ago?
[19:52] <irated> I figured I would give everyone time to repond
[19:52] <irated> respond
[19:53] <irated> I dont see any mentions of irated in any responses, so yes, it would be nice to somekind of a response.
[19:53] <OerHeks> irated, vnc with/without encrypion is not secure, use ssh+vnc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[19:53] <anticitizen> haha okay. well, i don't have answers to your questions unfortunately, and i'm guessing the people that were in the room hours ago didn't either
[19:53] <irated> OerHeks: Thats currently what Im doing
[19:54] <anticitizen> if someone here asks a question and i don't know the answer, i don't respond, i'm sure most people are like that
[19:54] <irated> but there is no mention of how to changge the interface to localhost and maybe the desktop sharing docs should recommend that rather then letting me fight through it.
[19:54] <anticitizen> it's not purposefully ignoring
[19:55] <irated> I figured out how to change the interface via dconf-editor.
[19:55] <irated> anticitizen: understood.
[19:55] <dbz2k> does anyone know where I go to see bug report on unity dash search or is it just regular unity page on launchpad?
[19:56] <ioria> lotuspsychje, take a look maye  ... https://mmstickman.wordpress.com/2016/03/31/systemd-service-manager-running-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:56] <cliffer> whats is the difference between sudo su and sudo -i? apt-get autocompletion works only with the later
[19:56] <mikubuntu> is it possible to upgrade lubuntu directly from 14.04 to 16.04?
[19:56] <irated> Onto my second question: Anyone know how to set dns options in NetworkManager?
[19:56] <akik> cliffer: use sudo su -
[19:56] <EriC^^> cliffer: different environment and sudo -i is a login shell
[19:56] <irated> I have around 8 connection suffixes and having it take 2 seconds to timeout out on every one is slow...
[19:56] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | mikubuntu
[19:56] <cliffer> irated: edit the network and add dns under ip4/ip6
[19:57] <wad> I'm at the grub prompt, I can edit the "Ubuntu' entry by pressing "e". The "linux" line has ..... "quiet splash $vt_handoff". I've tried taking these off, hoping I can see my passphrase prompt, but I'm just getting mostly blank screens. Sometimes I can see text on the screen when I type.
[19:57] <irated> i dont like to type fqdns manually
[19:57] <catbehemoth> is there a vnc server that can work on the login screen like on macs? Ive tried x11vnc (that you start with systemd) and the guide said that it works on login screen but if no user is logged in and I connect with a vnc viewer all i see is a black screen
[19:57] <irated> cliffer: that is the easy part. Looking more for how to add "option timeout 1"
[19:57] <wad> F10 should boot with my changes, right?
[19:57] <wad> I don't see much difference if I edit that grub thing, or not...
[19:57] <nacc> mikubuntu: also, that link you posted earlier is not accurate, afaict, the release notes quite clearly say that 14.04 -> 16.04 is not yet supported (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_or_15.10)
[19:57] <mikubuntu> thx nacc
[19:58] <cliffer> catbehemoth: remmina
[19:58] <nacc> mikubuntu: it is possible, of course (most things are), but for LTS purposes, it's better to just wait til officially offered
[19:58] <zykotick9> cliffer: re sudo - DON'T use "sudo su" or "sudo su -" --- "sudo -i" is better
[19:59] <akik> wad: does it help if you change gfxmode value to text ?
[19:59] <catbehemoth> cliffer: remmina is a client not a server, I am looking for a server that I can connect with remmina and other vnc viewers that will work even on login screen
[19:59] <cliffer> ok and why is "sudo su" bad?
[19:59] <wad> I GOT IN! I tried just typing the passphrase onto a blank screen, then doing CTRL-ALT-F1, doing it again, CTRL-ALT-F2, doing it again, pressing ESC a bunch of times, and it suddenly worked!
[20:00] <reisio> cliffer: the 'su' in 'sudo' is for 'su', it's fairly redundant, but not the end of the world
[20:00] <wad> I can edit my grub config now....
[20:00] <mikubuntu> thx nacc the other thing is i have no clue where to set upgrade preferences in lubuntu
[20:00] <reisio> cliffer: if you like being root all the time, set a password for root, and use 'su' alone
[20:00] <k1l> cliffer: because it breaks the environment variables. which will result in wrong file permissions on stuff that will break programs and xorg then
[20:00] <catbehemoth> cliffer: shouldnt it be sudo -i for root or sudo -u username for another user^
[20:00] <k1l> cliffer: if you need a root shell, then run sudo -i
[20:00] <zykotick9> !noroot | reisio
[20:00] <k1l> !sudo | cliffer
[20:01] <reisio> !spam
[20:01] <reisio> :D
[20:01] <msev-> Does anyone know why apparently espeak isnt compiled with pulseaudio when its packaged for ubuntu
[20:01] <dbz2k> !root
[20:01] <technocf> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu Mate and tried to set an ultrawide wallpaper (2560x1080) as my background but when I do it crops it to the size of my smallest monitor (1920x1080) and centres it.  How do I stop it from cropping on the larger screen?
[20:02] <cliffer> ok sudo -i gives a shell, but what does sudo su give? so why exactly does it break?
[20:02] <k1l> cliffer: see my explanaition
[20:02] <akik> cliffer: you need to use sudo su - if you want to use it that way
[20:02] <reisio> it's just redundant
[20:03] <catbehemoth> anyone successefully joined ubuntu 16.04 to AD with realmd and sssd? when I run realm join ad.domainname.com it hangs on checking for required packages in terminal and I get a popup saying packagekit crashed
[20:03] <cliffer> akik: i dont want, i just ry to understand what sudo su exactly is
[20:03] <akik> cliffer: you ask sudo rights to change your user id
[20:04] <cliffer> which then is changed to 0?
[20:04] <akik> cliffer: you can use su to change into any user
[20:04] <cliffer> so i have my users shell, but my userid is 0?
[20:05] <cliffer> in contrast to a root shell and userid 0 with sudo -i
[20:05] <akik> cliffer: no, you change into root account
[20:05] <wad> Yay! I got it working. Edited /etc/default/grub and removed the "quet splash" stuff, and uncommented the ling "GRUB_TERMINAL=console".
[20:06] <technocf> I solved my issue, kind of.  I created an image that fits over both monitors and pasted the wallpaper in and positioned it for each monitor, applied it and set it to span across all monitors.  Not the best fix but it works.
[20:07] <EriC^^> cliffer: sudo is a setsid program, so it runs stuff with root privileges or whatever user you give it
[20:07] <_44trent3> hello...I installed Ubuntu yesterday, and now whenever I boot my BIOS tells me it cannot find a bootable device...
[20:08] <akik> cliffer: man su: The optional argument - may be used to provide an
[20:08] <akik>        environment similar to what the user would expect had the user logged in directly.
[20:08] <EriC^^> _44trent3: can you boot a live usb?
[20:08] <_44trent3> but the thing is, i'm pretty sure the filesystem ext4 doesn't actually need a bootable flag...
[20:08] <_44trent3> which means my BIOS is being a pile of crud...
[20:08] <EriC^^> _44trent3: is csm legacy enabled?
[20:09] <_44trent3> csm legacy?
[20:09] <EriC^^> it might be installed in uefi mode and needs a workaround
[20:09] <_44trent3> well my bios is UEFI+Legacy
[20:09] <reisio> _44trent3: not to do with the boot flag, indeed
[20:09] <_44trent3> it can do both, at the same time
[20:09] <EriC^^> _44trent3: but in which mode is ubuntu installed?
[20:10] <_44trent3> uh, probably UEFI
[20:10] <_44trent3> i honestly dont know...
[20:10] <_44trent3> how do I check?
[20:10] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok, try to disable secure boot, or "trust" the ubuntu efi file from the boot options or change the boot order of the efi
[20:10] <technocf> Could anyone here help out with the cause of Skype for Linux?  It's be so greatly appreciated.  https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-better-linux-support-for-skype
[20:11] <EriC^^> _44trent3: when you booted the live usb did you get a black and white grub menu?
[20:11] <_44trent3> yep
[20:11] <EriC^^> it's installed in uefi mode then
[20:11] <EriC^^> try the stuff i mentioned above, if it doesn't work boot a live usb to troubleshoot it further
[20:11] <_44trent3> so, do I disable secure boot
[20:11] <_44trent3> kden
[20:11] <anticitizen> technocf: I read somewhere recenty that Microsoft is moving to better support skype in the browser, so the platform won't matter
[20:12] <bipul> Where i can get the /etc/apt/source.list files data for Xenial?
[20:12] <anticitizen> rather than trying to support different platforms
[20:12] <anticitizen> which makes sense to me
[20:12] <technocf> anticitizen: Did Microsoft themselves say that, did they give any dates.
[20:12] <bipul> !xenial
[20:12] <k1l> bipul: why do you need that?
[20:12] <anticitizen> technocf: It was something I read on Reddit the other day. Unfortunately I can't speak to a source
[20:13] <glooby> test
[20:13] <k1l> (maybe there is another solution)
[20:13] <Bashing-om> bipul: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ <-Ubuntu Sources.List Generator ???
[20:13] <Wulf> glooby: fail.
[20:13] <glooby> no!
[20:13] <bipul> k1l, I need it to get the package source code.
[20:13] <technocf> anticitizen: Well, even so this petition could get Microsoft to come out in the open potentially and say what is going on.
[20:13] <uebera||> Hi. Did anyone manage to use postmulti on Xenial? Am I missing a certain package because "postmulti -I <nickname> -G <group> -e create" fails with "postfix/postmulti-script: fatal: Missing main.cf prototype: /etc/postfix/main.cf.proto"?
[20:13] <anticitizen> technocf: here you go, found a source: http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-makes-skype-in-browser-plugin-free-will-bring-it-on-linux-too-503045.shtml
[20:14] <technocf> anticitizen: I'm using Skype for web but it cant call
[20:14] <nacc> bipul: you can get package source code from launchpad directly. are you on xenial now?
[20:14] <anticitizen> "the Redmond-based tech giant says that more browsers will be supported soon, including Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox."
[20:14] <anticitizen> technocf: because its not there yet, this is upcoming
[20:14] <bipul> nacc, Yes, how with bzr?
[20:14] <technocf> anticitizen: Well, they better get it done soon.  </rant>
[20:15] <nacc> bipul: what package?
[20:15] <anticitizen> a web client for a service like skype makes more sense than native applications for every platform
[20:15] <bipul> bc package.
[20:16] <nacc> bipul: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/bc; but pull-lp-source is the easiest way i've found
[20:16] <nacc> bipul: this is also a good URL format to remember: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bc
[20:17] <bipul> nacc, To get from launchpad i guess i need to use dget -x
[20:17] <nacc> bipul: use pull-lp-source
[20:17] <bipul> nacc, Thank you.
[20:19] <Guest18219> i get hello
[20:19] <Guest18219> hello
[20:20] <Bashing-om> Guest18219: I give a hello .
[20:20] <DJ> Greets Peeps! hope everyone is doing well
[20:20] <Guest18219> has linux limitation for giving a determined memory for a program like matlab?
[20:21] <DJ> should
[20:21] <DJ> shoudn't
[20:21] <Guest18219> DJ, are you with me ?
[20:21] <rubiksmomo> Any idea why my framerate on Minecraft dropped dramatically after moving from X.Org to NVIDIA 364.19?
[20:22] <Guest18219> i get out of memory error in windows for my matrix in windows can i solve that in linux?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: What does the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log relate about the driver ?
[20:23] <az> Hi, I'm on 15.10 when I use the following  command the LCD display which is the only activated display get off and the laptop display is switched on. I'm unable to return the the display to LCD after that unless by plugging and unplugging the cable multiple times
[20:23] <az> xrandr --output HDMI1 --brightness 0.5
[20:25] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, Can't find the driver line on that log file
[20:26] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Post it to a pastebin site and I have a look at it .
[20:27] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/16088309/
[20:29] <rubiksmomo> Maybe it's not using the Nvidia driver. Every time it does, I end up in login loop.
[20:30] <LinuxGuy2020> Is there a way to skip the publication part of using snapcraft and just skip directly to installing the created snap for personal use only?
[20:30] <Pici> LinuxGuy2020: you may want to direct that question to #snappy
[20:31] <LinuxGuy2020> ok
[20:31] <spikie> what is snappy?
[20:32] <denis_> привет всем))
[20:32] <Pici> spikie: basically a containerized package format introduced in 16.04. Its current primary use is for mobile platforms.
[20:32] <Pici> !snappy | spikie
[20:33] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: reading.
[20:33] <denis_> hi))
[20:34] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: You are booting with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter . that defeats loading the proprietary driver . recovery mode ?
[20:34] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, Yeah, I have nomodeset. Used to get black screen instead of login loop before I added it.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Lemme read some more . see if a driver is installed .
[20:36] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Hybrid grap[hics ... how are you controlling the graphic's sets ?
[20:36] <rubiksmomo> I'm not
[20:38] <rubiksmomo> Been using X.Org driver for weeks. But it causes some rendering/crashing issues on Minecraft. When I try to install an Nvidia driver I end up in login loop.
[20:38] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: " 45.952] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " . No driver is buildt .. how did you set the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ? .. we will see what there is for the hardware and get a driver/controller installed .
[20:39] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, added it in /etc/default/grub
[20:40] <effectnet> i can't get wally, the wallpaper program to work anymore
[20:40] <Ali2> guys I wanna ask u how important is VT -d feature in laptop?
[20:40] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/16088433/
[20:41] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, HP OMEN 15-5250no 15,6" with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 Gt GDDR5
[20:43] <sunil_> hello
[20:43] <sunil_> how are you guys
[20:43] <rubiksmomo> desperate
[20:43] <sunil_> :)
[20:43] <glooby> i wanna die
[20:44] <sunil_> great
[20:44] <sunil_> but why
[20:44] <DJ> for real though
[20:44] <DJ> why do you want to die?
[20:44] <sunil_> any real tech
[20:45] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: K, prep work . what reurns : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[20:45] <Ali2> guys I wanna ask u how important is VT -d feature in laptop?
[20:46] <_44trent3> i didn't find a secure boot option anywhere in my BIOS...
[20:46] <_44trent3> it's probably under windows 8 features or whatever, but it's disabled
[20:46] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/16088496/
[20:46] <_44trent3> what should I try now?
[20:49] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: I am a bit confused .. Do not see the Intel graphic's hardware - I know it is there - .. what rerurns - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - ?
[20:50] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/16088533/
[20:53] <_44trent3> uh...my PC won't boot unless I can figure this issue out
[20:53] <_44trent3> someone said something about doing something in my /boot directory but I forgot what exactly it was
[20:53] <Ali2> guys I wanna ask u how important is VT -d feature in laptop?
[20:53] <EriC^^> _44trent3: did you try turning off secureboot
[20:54] <_44trent3> yeah, i don't think it's on
[20:54] <_44trent3> It's under the "Enable Windows 8 features" or whatever
[20:54] <_44trent3> it's an msi clickbios
[20:54] <_44trent3> i'm pretty sure the secure boot is only on for Win8
[20:54] <_44trent3> which I've never had
[20:54] <k1l_> Ali2: do you use VMs?
[20:55] <EriC^^> _44trent3: is it off though?
[20:55] <flappynerd> what does CVE mean in the launchpad bug tracker?
[20:55] <_44trent3> yeah it's off
[20:55] <EriC^^> _44trent3: did you check if you can "trust" a certain efi or change the boot order for uefi?
[20:55] <k1l_> flappynerd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures
[20:55] <_44trent3> i tried changing the boot order to UEFI everything first
[20:55] <k1l_> flappynerd: its known security issues, basically
[20:56] <_44trent3> didn't do jack squat
[20:56] <_44trent3> so, what certain efi do you want me to trust...
[20:56] <_44trent3> the /boot/efi folder is completely empty on my HDD btw
[20:56] <flappynerd> k1l_: ah ok thanks
[20:56] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok boot a live usb to troubleshoot
[20:56] <flappynerd> has anyone upgraded to 16.04 yet?
[20:56] <_44trent3> i'm already in liv usb
[20:56] <_44trent3> live usb
[20:56] <flappynerd> how do you like it? stable? issues?
[20:56] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:57] <flappynerd> I'd like to upgrade, but I think I may still wait a couple months to hopefully avoid early adoption issues
[20:57] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Yup .. Intel is seen ! .. OK , run ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . See what the system chooses to install for a proprietary driver . Remove the 'nomodeset' boot parameter and remember to ' sudo update-grub ' to propagate the change . Reboot and let's look at the effect .
[20:57] <glooby> flappynerd: I'm stuck using nomodeset because the amd open drivers have black screen errors for me
[20:57] <_44trent3> alright...
[20:58] <_44trent3> termbin.com/sqlk...
[20:58] <flappynerd> glooby: hmm, ok good to know, thanks
[20:58] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, OK, I hope it won't be another login loop
[20:58] <_44trent3> what does that mean?
[20:58] <flappynerd> glooby: are you on a laptop?
[20:58] <glooby> flappynerd: nope
[20:58] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Well .. if you do, we need to find out the why . Maybe not a driver issue .. we will see .
[20:58] <_44trent3> oh, it shows the information about my disks
[20:59] <lj1102> hey guys, when i hit ctrl+alt+f1 I get a shell, how do i go back to the gnome logon screen ?!
[20:59] <EriC^^> _44trent3: how did you install ubuntu?
[20:59] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, won't happen with X.Org. I'll let you know
[20:59] <_44trent3> i just used the installer on the USB
[20:59] <_44trent3> it was UEFI
[20:59] <flappynerd> lj1102: usually the same key command, but like F7 or F8 I think
[20:59] <EriC^^> _44trent3: erase disk and install?
[20:59] <_44trent3> erased, then allocated all the space except 8GB as ext4
[20:59] <_44trent3> the 8GB was SWAP
[20:59] <Bashing-om> lj1102: alt+F7 .. most likely .
[21:00] <_44trent3> what i were to do the legacy mode install?
[21:00] <_44trent3> i don't have any important data
[21:00] <lj1102> thanks guys :) F7 it is !
[21:00] <EriC^^> _44trent3: so you manually partitioned?
[21:00] <_44trent3> no, i let ubuntu do everything for me...
[21:01] <effectnet> geez i can't even get some wallpaper working
[21:01] <_44trent3> for some reason, now my USB can boot in legacy instead of just UEFI
[21:01] <_44trent3> it wasn't last night, which led me to try and boot the non-UEFI one for like...45 minutes
[21:01] <EriC^^> _44trent3: the efi partition seems to be deleted
[21:01] <_44trent3> that's not good
[21:01] <EriC^^> _44trent3: the stuff start at 538mb
[21:01] <EriC^^> yea
[21:02] <_44trent3> oh [redacted]
[21:02] <_44trent3> i'm pretty sure if i actually swear, i'll get kicked...
[21:02] <_44trent3> I just realized what happend
[21:02] <EriC^^> _44trent3: try to reinstall ubuntu
[21:02] <_44trent3> I deleted the EFI partition last night...mistakenly thinking it was my USB key...
[21:03] <EriC^^> ah
[21:03] <_44trent3> ...i can't believe i'm that stupid
[21:03] <Abe_> I installed ubuntu and installed the kubuntu desktop. I use the kde desktop. but i have unity also (never use it)... Is my ditro supported until 2019 or like kubuntu now until 2017?
[21:03] <EriC^^> _44trent3: type sudo cgdisk /dev/sda
[21:03] <_44trent3> there's 513MB of free space
[21:04] <Abe_> distro*
[21:04] <EriC^^> _44trent3: press create
[21:04] <EriC^^> and press enter for starting sector
[21:04] <EriC^^> keep hitting enter til it asks for hex code, then type ef00
[21:04] <k1l_> Abe_: the packages in main are supported for 5 years. the kde stuff is not in main and only supported for 3 years then.
[21:04] <_44trent3> create is the new button right?
[21:04] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:04] <Rubiksmomo> Black screen on login. What now?
[21:05] <effectnet> what's a good wallpaper?  i can't get any of them to work
[21:05] <_44trent3> "Hec code or GUID" is that where i put the hex?
[21:05] <Abe_> k1l_: so my system is only good for 2017 then?
[21:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:05] <effectnet> geez i would have liked a simple wallpaper program
[21:05] <k1l_> Abe_: yes.
[21:05] <_44trent3> done
[21:06] <_44trent3> it still says the partition type is "free space" though
[21:06] <EriC^^> _44trent3: press write
[21:06] <_44trent3> it still is free space
[21:06] <_44trent3> is that supossed to be right?
[21:06] <EriC^^> _44trent3: exit and type sudo partprobe
[21:06] <EriC^^> i dunno
[21:06] <_44trent3> oh wait, that's another one
[21:06] <_44trent3> oops
[21:07] <_44trent3> i have an EFI partition now
[21:07] <EriC^^> the idea is that if you recreate the partition in the same place, the filesystem will still be there
[21:07] <_44trent3> i put in sudo partprobe
[21:07] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[21:07] <TomLee> Greetings! Was wondering if anyone knew what kind of keyboard is displayed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet
[21:08] <Abe_> k1l_: I know you are right... but I just use the kde desktop. I didn't install kubuntu why wouldn't it be able to get the regular ubuntu updates anymore?
[21:08] <_44trent3> sda2 is my normal linux filesystem
[21:08] <_44trent3> am i supossed to mount that one?
[21:08] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:08] <EriC^^> _44trent3: yeah, type from for i in ... til done
[21:08] <k1l_> Abe_: it gets teh regular updates for every package that is in the main repo. but your whole kde stuff might not get any updates after that timeframe anymore.
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo: A new paste of the xorg log file ... see what took place . From the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 ro gain a console interface .
[21:09] <_44trent3> it's mounted, what was i supossed to do again?
[21:09] <ukernyanz> Hi everybody, I have some problem under ubuntu. I upgraded to 16.04, and now I am obliged to click two times (from the top right menu) to log session out or to click and wait about 1minute for the system to actually log out
[21:09] <EriC^^> _44trent3: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:09] <ukernyanz> can you help me?
[21:09] <Abe_> would that be bad in any way. so I would still get all the security updates
[21:10] <Rubiksmomo_> Who was helping me earlier? I ended up with black screen on login.
[21:10] <k1l_> Abe_: Kubuntu is ubuntu+kde. but the kde packages are maintained by the kubuntu team/community and are not put into "main" repo. ubuntu/canonical only guarantees support for stuff in "main" repo. that is the difference
[21:10] <_44trent3> it's giving me a syntax error when i try sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:10] <EriC^^> _44trent3: type the whole line
[21:10] <EriC^^> _44trent3: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:11] <EriC^^> for i in ...
[21:11] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Do you see my XX:09 entry ?
[21:11] <k1l_> Abe_: you would still get updates for ssh-server, kernel, xorg etc..... all that is installed in your system from the main repo. but not guaranteed for the stuff outside the main repo, like the kde stuff.
[21:11] <Abe_> k1l_: ok would you recommend upgrading to me as an lts user, as soon as the point release is out?
[21:11] <_44trent3> gotcha
[21:11] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Sorry, no. Could you please copy-paste?
[21:11] <_44trent3> there, i did it
[21:12] <EriC^^> _44trent3: type sudo chroot /mnt
[21:12] <Abe_> k1l_: or make a fresh install and backup all my stuff
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: 16:09 < Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo: A new paste of the xorg log file ... see what took place . From the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 ro gain a console interface .
[21:12] <_44trent3> alright, i did it
[21:12] <EriC^^> _44trent3: mount -a
[21:12] <_44trent3> done
[21:12] <k1l_> Abe_: i suggest to make backups anyway. and then use the LTS-upgrade. it will be opened in july.
[21:12] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: But I can't access browser to paste it?
[21:12] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ls /boot/efi/EFI
[21:13] <_44trent3> it outputted ubuntu
[21:13] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok, efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:13] <_44trent3> http://termbin.com/k31b
[21:13] <Abe_> I know it's an kde thing but will QtCurve work with 16.04? I probably need to go to #kubuntu
[21:13] <Rubiksmomo_> I think there was some command to create a paste URL from terminal
[21:14] <Abe_> k1l_: thank you
[21:14] <EriC^^> _44trent3: grub-install
[21:14] <_44trent3> installation finished. no error reported
[21:15] <EriC^^> _44trent3: update-grub
[21:15] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' will do nicely .
[21:15] <_44trent3> https://paste.ubuntu.com/16088746/
[21:15] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Umm, this time ctrl+alt+F1 isn't working either. It's just black screen. I could hear the login sound, but nothing on screen.
[21:16] <Abe_> k1l_: you already on 16.04?
[21:16] <Abe_> k1l_: or do you also wait for the point release then?
[21:16] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok, type ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Ouch ! .. what release is this ? we come up wuth an alternative to gain a interface .
[21:17] <_44trent3> http://termbin.com/txv9
[21:17] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. And it seems I can't connect WiFi without X
[21:18] <EriC^^> _44trent3: ok, mkdir /boot/efi/EFI/Boot
[21:18] <EriC^^> _44trent3: mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[21:18] <_44trent3> done
[21:18] <Rubiksmomo_> First time ctrl+alt+F1 fails on me
[21:19] <EriC^^> _44trent3: cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: ... Yuk .. I am helpless in WIFI ... we can try to boot to terminal from grub .
[21:19] <EriC^^> _44trent3: cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:20] <_44trent3> done
[21:20] <EriC^^> _44trent3: type exit
[21:20] <EriC^^> and try rebooting
[21:20] <_44trent3> alright
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: A thought ! 14.04 ??? are you sure ?? as thoose later drivers for Ncidia are not in the 14.04 repo last I was aware .
[21:23] <bleb> I just installed 9base; is there an easy way to make awk be /usr/lib/plan9/bin/awk and make man awk find /usr/share/man/man1/awk.1plan9.gz ? I am thining maybe apt-get update-alternatives but plan9 awk doesn't show up in that list.
[21:24] <robnono> Hello, There are French ?
[21:24] <EriC^^> !fr | robnono
[21:25] <_44trent3> problem solved it appears
[21:25] <EriC^^> great
[21:27] <Rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Sorry. What did I miss?
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo: 16:22 < Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: A thought ! 14.04 ??? are you sure ?? as thoose later drivers for Ncidia are not in the 14.04 repo last I was aware .
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo: What returns ' cat /etc/issue ' ?
[21:30] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Can't access terminal. Ctrl+alt+F1 isn't working. :<
[21:31] <_44trent3> why is youtube lagging so bad? does it have something to do with my amd driver?
[21:31] <tsaavik> Hey all, did gnome-terminal loose the ability to set the title of the tabs in xenial?
[21:31] <_44trent3> i mean, i'm kind of stuck on the open source one, obviously
[21:32] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Just black screen with the login sound. Ctrl+alt+F1 isn't working this time.
[21:33] <hinderaker> How good is the do-release-upgrade command? I have no access to the server and it is hosting a couple of important websites. Simple setup with apache2, php5-fpm and mySQL. What are the chances of shit going bad or is there any upside to doing a fresh install instead of upgrade?
[21:33] <hinderaker> Running 14.04 LTS atm.
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: Something deeper than a GUI driver going on here . Try'n to come up with a means to "know" what release we are dealing with .
[21:34] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | hinderaker
[21:34] <\9> hinderaker: 14.04 LTS won't be issued an update until later this year
[21:35] <Bashing-om> hinderaker: There are issues with mysql upgrading to 16.04 . read the release notes carefully .
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: When you boot, can you get the grub boot menu ? and from that menu can you  boot a "recovery" kernel ?
[21:36] <hinderaker> Ah, thanks. I didn't know. Well, then I don't have to decide on this yet :) Thanks again m8s.
[21:37] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: last time it went straight to login screen even I was holding shift, lemme try again
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: L .. mystified presently on what is not taking place .
[21:38] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: I'll try to hold shift after unlocking disk
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: EFI system it is the escape key that grub looks for .
[21:39] <TomLee> anyone knows what kind of keyboard is displayed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet ??
[21:39] <Nitrigaur> I'm running 14.04, have LTS updates enabled, but my update manager does not show the option to upgrade to 16.04 > My language is Dutch, might that have something to do with it?
[21:39] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: tried holding shift after unlocking disk, it just went to black login screen
[21:40] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrades | Nitrigaur
[21:40] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrade | Nitrigaur
[21:40] <_28_ria> hello, how do you restart graphical desktop without restarting the whole computer? I have ubuntu 15.10. In earlier versions I used to be able to do: sudo service gdm restart. Now it doesn't work.
[21:40] <Nitrigaur> Ah, so upgrade is now only possible via indirect route, through 15.10?
[21:41] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: EFI system ?
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> _28_ria  it's now lightdm, not gdm
[21:41] <EriC^^> _28_ria: sudo service lightdm restart restarts the whole desktop, it'll log you out though
[21:41] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: you can force an upgrade early
[21:42] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, what are the known downsides of that?
[21:42] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: maybe less stable
[21:42] <mercutio> people who are on lts versions may want smoething that's been verified fine over a period oftime
[21:42] <mercutio> of time
[21:42] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: I don't know, but it doesn't react to shift
[21:42] <mircx1> how i check my version from Terminal?
[21:42] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, is your nick based off VTM Bloodlines?
[21:42] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: no
[21:42] <mercutio> it's from romeo and juliet forever ago :)
[21:43] <k1l_> mircx1: "lsb_release -d"
[21:43] <_28_ria> EriC^^: MonkeyDust: so, sudo service lightdm restart works in 15.10?, hm, I thought, that nothing with sudo service works anymore and I have to use sudo systemctl
[21:43] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, Ah yes of course, how silly of me :-)
[21:43] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: OK, got GRUB now. I hold shift between BIOS and before unlocking disk
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: In that case .. try spamming the escape key as soon as the firmware screen clears .. do you now get the grub boot menu ?
[21:43] <EriC^^> _28_ria: it translates stuff into systemctl commands
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: K.. and recovery kernel boots ?
[21:44] <_28_ria> EriC^^: I see, ok, thanx
[21:44] <EriC^^> _28_ria: no problem
[21:44] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, it's quite tempting to go to 16.04 and finally have a working Sigil (ePub authoring and a spanking new version of LibreOffice cdemu and wibom without ppa's)
[21:45] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: just do it then :)
[21:45] <mercutio> but then i use arch linux for desktop
[21:45] <mercutio> and only use ubuntu for servers
[21:45] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Seems to get stuck in "[2.648861] clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc".
[21:45] <mercutio> ubuntu tends to have old package versions
[21:45] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Ah, when I press a button it requests the unlocking key
[21:46] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: We are in territory I know nothing avout .. encryption !
[21:46] <wad_> WTH? With Ubuntu 16.04, I can no longer rename tabs in gnome-terminal. >_<
[21:46] <tsaavik> Yes, having same issue
[21:47] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary
[21:47] <wad_> That's an epic fail! Usually I have a dozen tabs open at once, and a REALLY REALLY REALLY need to label them!
[21:47] <tsaavik> switching back to xfce4-terminal, which sucks because it has no profile support :(
[21:47] <mercutio> wad_: does the shell labeling them work?
[21:47] <Nitrigaur> Any success story on installing Ubuntu 16.04 on a Sony Vaio Pro 13? It has a nasty crippled UEFI without any boot menu and a hardcoded link to start the Win64 (Win8.1) shim...
[21:48] <wad_> In the old version, I could rename a tab in a tenth of a second: "ALT-t s name"
[21:48] <mercutio> i just use urxvtd/urvxtc
[21:48] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: i dont know of any personally but you could be able to trick the uefi into booting ubuntu
[21:48] <mercutio> and all my terminals get labeled by the shell
[21:48] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, any hints on that?
[21:49] <mercutio> but then i use ion, so it naturally tabs all of my terminals
[21:49] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, I don't want to end up with a really expensive, but lightweight brick ;-)
[21:49] <tsaavik> I have a command that opens 10 windows, sshs to a jump server and connects to 10 tmux sessions. the --terminal="blah" option was VERY nice :\
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: For our present purpose .. "root shell" will serve . - what returns ' cat /etcx/issue ' ? a one liner .
[21:50] <effectnet> woo!
[21:50] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: boot a live usb, mount the filesystem, mount bind the virtual filesystems, chroot, mount -a, then cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[21:50] <mercutio> tsaavik: that sounds pretty nifty
[21:50] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup
[21:51] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: then cp the ubuntu file over them, cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:52] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: and cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:52] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: then change the middle line in /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft from bootmgfw.efi to bootmgfw.efi.backup so grub knows what to look for and update-grub
[21:53] <EriC^^> it should work, if it doesn't you can just switch the files back by copying bootx64.efi.backup over bootx64.efi and the same for bootmgfw.efi.backup
[21:54] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: sometimes just disabling the uefi entry for windows lets ubuntu work ( sudo efibootmgr -A -b <hex number> )
[21:55] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: sudo efibootmgr -v to get the number, and sudo efibootmgr -a -b <hex number> to make it active again if it doesn't work
[21:55] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, Thank you so much! It has been ages ago since I've used bind mounts, so it's time for me to look up the proper syntax and order of actions. But your hints will get me there.
[21:56] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: no problem
[21:56] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: OK, managed to boot the recovery mode image normally. I'm in login loop, but could access the terminal. What command should I type? There was some command to make a paste?
[21:56] <ArabicSoap> People. I am trying to install the latest Ubuntu on a Mac, but I cannot get both Ubuntu and Mac together. How should I partition the sus
[21:57] <ArabicSoap> The system?
[21:57] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, I have been quite mad at Sony for having the nerve of crippling the UEFI of such an expensive machine, but I will relax once a proper OS runs on it.
[21:57]  * Elektrode 
[21:58] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: yeah, some uefi implementations can be quite a mess, hp are notorious for it too
[21:58] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: "cat /etc/issue" says: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[21:58] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, I might try Arch again, the documentation is amazing and since I don't use that laptop for gaming, it might be a very good fit for that machine.
[21:58] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: what version of OSX are you running?
[21:59] <curlyears> how do IJ post something to pastebin?
[21:59] <mercutio> well for desktops i prefer arch
[21:59] <k1l_> !pastebinit | curlyears
[21:59] <mercutio> ubuntu is ok for servers
[21:59] <mercutio> once you remove networkmanager and all that other crap
[21:59] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: I want to install Mac OS X 10.10, but at the moment I only have Ubuntu 15.10
[21:59] <k1l_> mercutio: its even ok for desktops.
[22:00] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, yes, indeed, you can even run an OpenStack. That's quite something.
[22:00] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: ok, so you have ubuntu installed but want to add osx?
[22:00] <k1l_> mercutio: arch linux got a totally different scope than ubuntu. (but this is something for #ubuntu-offtopic )
[22:00] <ArabicSoap> Well I want to format everything and install both Ubuntu and Mac OS X cgunders1on
[22:01] <Nitrigaur> k1l_, don't blame him/ her, it was me who got back on Arch as topic. mercutio just casually made a remark
[22:01] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: ok, i'd recommend just installing osx first on the entire drive. then use the diskutility to shrink the partition
[22:01] <cgunders1on> then you can install ubuntu after that
[22:01] <cgunders1on> probably the easiest way
[22:01] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Outstanding .. so as you are at a terminal .. we can run ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' let's see what X is doing .
[22:02] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16089080/
[22:02] <Rubiksmomo_> used that "pastebinit" command
[22:03] <mercutio> this termbin thing seems nifty
[22:03] <effectnet> geez it's 86f here
[22:03] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, mercutio, thanks again for all the help. I need to get some sleep now Zzzzzz
[22:03] <Rubiksmomo_> There are 5 lines with "(EE)"
[22:04] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: laters
[22:04] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: I tried that, my question is: what option should I use when installing Ubuntu after Mac? Because when I do it ends up formatting the entire system and installing only itself
[22:05] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: K .. " 73.080] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  364.19  " How in the world did you install this driver in 14.04 ?
[22:06] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Not sure, I tried all kinds of things =D
[22:06] <curlyears> OK, here's my pastebin.   How do I resolve this?  if I try apt-get install python it tells me that the most recent version of python is already intalled.    I don't get it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16089102/
[22:06] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: I think that's from ppa:graphics-drivers, the newest one
[22:06] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: you need to manually place the ubuntu partition on the disk during installation. i believe it's the 'other' option.
[22:06] <dannymichel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322266 any ideas?
[22:07] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Installed from the settings > additional drivers after adding the repo
[22:07] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: i'm not super sure about how it looks, maybe someone else can fill you in
[22:07] <genii> Bashing-om: Yes, this user installed the PPA at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa recently, they wanted to experiment with the Vulcan stuff of NVidia drivers
[22:07] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Maybe a good thing .. but Nvidia recommends the 361 version for your card . .. show us ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and let's verify a good source for getting the 364 driver .
[22:07] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: the "something else" option opens a partition table and I don't know what to do with.
[22:08] <curlyears> what is "ppa"?
[22:08] <Bashing-om> genii: Thanks for that .. helps bunches .. Great PPA as far as I am concerned .
[22:08] <k1l_> !ppa | curlyears
[22:09] <curlyears> OK, here's my pastebin.   How do I resolve this?  if I try apt-get install python it tells me that the most recent version of python is already intalled.    I don't get it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16089102/
[22:10] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: hold on and i'll try and find the guide for that
[22:10] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: 1/2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/16089219/
[22:10] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: ok thanks.
[22:10] <dannymichel> I've noticed that minimizing Wine applications makes them disappear. They don't stay in the 'dock(for lack of a better known word)'
[22:10] <k1l_> curlyears: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: :) so far so fine ... stock sources list .. so far .
[22:11] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: 2/2 termbin.com/1mdgc
[22:12] <daniel__> hi
[22:12] <dionysus69> usr13: yep still here
[22:13] <curlyears> k1l_:   Description:      ubuntu  14.04.4 LTS
[22:13] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: you can read about partitioning here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch06s03.html#di-partition
[22:14] <dionysus69> usr13: the thing is that I am using kodibuntu and its a minified version of xfce, it is missing stuff obviously so it's not ubuntu's fault
[22:14] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: thank you very much. I hope it works :-)
[22:14] <dionysus69> usr13: going to sleep btw
[22:14] <k1l_> curlyears: there is no python-wxgtk3.0 in 14.04. so whatever you installed there (from a 3rd party repo or 3rd party package) is not meant for 14.04
[22:14] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: you'll need two partitions, one with mountpoint '/' and filesystem ext4
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Great ! .. I see what might be going on too ! " /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bumblebee-stable-trusty.list " . Show now ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' Let's make sure there is no conflict .
[22:14] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: and one swap file system
[22:15] <curlyears> k1l_:  nastywords.  That is the most recent versioon  of the gcode translator/control program for my 3-D printer.  )-:
[22:15] <ArabicSoap> Ok got it. Will try that now. :-)
[22:15] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: there are a lot of different options for different needs but that will get you up and running
[22:15] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/nb7t
[22:15] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: good luck :)
[22:15] <ArabicSoap> Brilliant.
[22:16] <mercutio> wow ubuntu upgraded nginx from 1.9 to 1.10
[22:16] <mercutio> in xenial
[22:17] <curlyears> one thing I wish I could change in bitchx:  on a busy channel, it helps tremendously if private messages are highlighted on the screen
[22:17] <teward> mercutio: if you read the Xenial release notes you'd have noticed that
[22:17] <teward> mercutio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Server - "Ubuntu 16.04 includes version 1.9.15 of the Nginx web server, with an expectation to provide the next stable release of Nginx, 1.10.0, as an SRU after release (which will be virtually identical to 1.9.15)."
[22:17] <mercutio> oh interesting
[22:17] <teward> mercutio: also, unless you have a support question, discussion on this is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Uh huh ... " ii  bumblebee " . Depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime .. only one or the other can be installed . ' sudo apt purge bumble* ' as the source has been removed, - I hope this will suffice .
[22:19] <mercutio> teward: ahh i didn't realise that would be considered offtopic
[22:20] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: OK, still in login loop. Reboot?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: No, not yet .. show anew ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' Need to make sure "primus" was also removed . .. concerned that "nvidia-prime" is not installed .
[22:23] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/lpik
[22:24] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: K .. looking promising .. what now with ' sudo apt install nvidia-prime ' ?
[22:25] <Rubiksmomo_> black login screen or login loop ^_^ Let's try
[22:26] <Rubiksmomo_> I should do "apt-get autoremove"
[22:26] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/44ym
[22:27] <i-make-robots> hi!  I accidentally reset the owners on /var/log.  I need to reconfirm the correct owner to fix this mistake.
[22:27] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Look'n .
[22:28] <i-make-robots> who should own /var/log/apport.log?
[22:28] <i-make-robots> (i've already fixed a bunch, but several i have no comparisson and no google help)
[22:29] <Rubiksmomo_> i-make-robots: Mine should be original: termbin.com/kqdf & termbin.com/tja3
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: What now when you reboot without the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ? ... maybe all is good, maybe purge again and re-install ??? But, making progress !
[22:30] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: let's see ^_^
[22:30] <Bashing-om> i-make-robots: sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /var/log/apport.log >> -rw-r----- 1 root adm 0 Apr 20  2014 /var/log/apport.log
[22:31] <i-make-robots> thank you, Bashing-om
[22:31] <i-make-robots> how about /var/log/systat/ ?  the folder, not the contents
[22:32] <Bashing-om> i-make-robots: Nope :  /var/log/systat/: No such file or directory .
[22:32] <i-make-robots> i also need exim4, landscape, and holland.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> i-make-robots: None ^^ are on my sustem .. can not advise .
[22:35] <i-make-robots> ok, thanks.  last one: /var/log/apache2, are all contents owned by the same user/group?
[22:35] <i-make-robots> i have root:adm for everything in /var/log/apache2 atm.
[22:37] <rubiksmomo_> baserunner_: Black login screen, but I can access terminal
[22:37] <rubiksmomo_> Hope it will connect to WiFi
[22:38] <Slade> did CUDA support die at 14.10 ?
[22:38] <de-facto> Rubiksmomo for some nvidia-current wouldnt work correctly on xenial, those needed at least nvidia-340
[22:39] <de-facto> rubiksmomo_  ^^
[22:39] <rubiksmomo_> 14.04.4 LTS
[22:41] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Black login screen, but I can access terminal
[22:41] <rubiksmomo_> Oh, there's a login screen now, that took a while
[22:42] <leonarth> is it normal to see a process: ./x86_64 running?
[22:43] <Wulf> leonarth: no
[22:43] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: I think it's fixed somehow. Thank you for your effort! :o
[22:43] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Now that BumbleeBee is no longer in the picture, how about we purge and re-install ... I am torn as Nvidia recommends 361 but the system recommends 364 .. What do you think ?
[22:43] <leonarth> Wulf when I try to kill it, says that the process doesn't exist
[22:44] <Wulf> leonarth: how do you kill i?
[22:44] <leonarth> killall -9 x86_64
[22:44] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Better not to touch anything right now as it works? =D Dunno why the login screen kept me waiting so long though.
[22:44] <i-make-robots> Bashing-om thank you, probably human thing!
[22:44] <Wulf> leonarth: try using the pid. Or first check what that is, ls -l /proc/<...>/exe
[22:44] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Yeah fixed >>> cleanup ? How stable was your system before the driver issue ?
[22:44] <leonarth> Wulf I tried that, says it doesn't exist
[22:45] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Minecraft crashed a lot when using the X.Org
[22:46] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: So how should I clean it up?
[22:46] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Try Minecraft now .. cleanup can be risky on an unstable system !
[22:47] <leonarth> Wulf https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fu2lqdhs8n644j/Screenshot%202016-04-28%2000.47.30.png?dl=0
[22:49] <Wulf> leonarth: doesn't work
[22:49] <leonarth> Wulf what, the link?
[22:49] <Wulf> why on earth is it so hard to upload stuff to a simple http server?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: I like to keep things clean behind me .. in ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' see all those packages marked 'rc' .. be good to get rid of the cruft .. but there is no way to be specific about it .
[22:50] <leonarth> Wulf because that way it's automatic, you just screenshot and you insta get the link
[22:50] <leonarth> uploading to imgur
[22:50] <Wulf> leonarth: imgur would work
[22:51] <leonarth> Wulf http://imgur.com/1p5bmGE
[22:51] <Wulf> leonarth: https://i.imgur.com/1p5bmGE.png
[22:51] <leonarth> :)
[22:52] <Wulf> leonarth: so it does exist. ls -lL
[22:53] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, Definite FPS boost. Not sure about the stability, but looking good so far. Do you think I should still play with the drivers or something?
[22:53] <Wulf> leonarth: and ls -l /proc/2657/root
[22:53] <Wulf> leonarth: maybe cat /proc/2657/exe > ~/strangeprogram
[22:54] <leonarth> what what do I do with that output saved?
[22:54] <Wulf> leonarth: upload the file somewhere
[22:55] <Wulf> (not dropbox)
[22:55] <leonarth> can't the VM has been disconnected from the network :)
[22:55] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: If it ain't broke, let's not fix it . If you think the system is stable ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' to remove ALL pieces that the system "thinks" is orphaned .
[22:56] <Wulf> leonarth: did you even get the file?
[22:56] <leonarth> only console access
[22:56] <squinty> wput
[22:56] <Wulf> leonarth: maybe you can access the file from the host
[22:56] <rubiksmomo> Let's see if I can break something
[22:57] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Fingers crossed .
[22:57] <rubiksmomo> ^_^
[22:57] <TomLee> anyone knows what kind of keyboard is displayed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet ??
[22:57] <Wulf> TomLee: no
[22:57] <leonarth> need to ask digitalocean to put the server in quarantine and from there mount the disk via NFS
[22:58] <rizi> so my vlc just stoped renderding video properly meaning it cant do hardware assceleration, i was working fine before.
[22:59] <krambiorix> hi, when i run /etc/init.d/sendmail restart  i get "Failed!"
[22:59] <rizi> initally it was not even playing any video but then after some trubleshoot i figure out it cant do hardware assceleration
[23:00] <krambiorix> then i run systemctl status sendmail.service and i get    Failed to start LSB: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent.
[23:00] <krambiorix> what can i do?
[23:01] <rubiksmomo> OK, let's try to reboot
[23:02] <carlf> Anyone have any idea how an apt-get install would cause a package to uninstall? Log here: http://pastebin.com/4gbWCnKV
[23:02] <rubiksmomo> maybe first: apt-get autoremove
[23:02] <nolsen> carlf: Are you using -proposed packages?
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Let's hold off on 'autoremove' .. one thing at a time . see how the 'rc' removal went .
[23:04] <krambiorix> sendmail -v hangs...
[23:05] <carlf> nolsen: We're not using any -proposed packages.
[23:06] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Black login screen again. Last time I it started to work after waiting.
[23:07] <sine0> I have had a browser issue in 15.10 since i installed... ive tried so many things. its as if the browser traffic is going through a proxy which causes a bottle kneck, restarting the browser and pasting the link it gets the site straight away
[23:07] <sine0> Im using firefox
[23:07] <krambiorix> anyone?
[23:08] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Maybe I should boot recovery again and do something?
[23:09] <MoPac> Hello. I'm experiencing a somewhat debilitating GPU hang in i915 / drm [Ubuntu 16.04] (makes LibreOffice unusable - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1575301) .I'm wondering if there is anything practical I can do to gather additional information or get eyes on it beyond what's on Launchpad.
[23:09] <MoPac> 've assumed filing a duplicate report upstream might create inconvenience / confusion. I assume it would be a further mistake to do that without building the upstream stack from source. And I'm not entirely confident that I know what I'm doing in terms of building/installing all those packages and then knowing how to purge them after testing (checkinstall...?) Any advice would be very welcome.
[23:10] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: I think reinstall the driver and nvida-prime . Will have to remount the file system if from recovery .
[23:12] <thinksecret> ...
[23:13] <de-facto> leonarth you can copy base64 from the console and reconstruct the binary on another machine: cat strangefile | base64   copy that paste it into a file and then cat strangefile.base64  |  base64 --decode > strangefile
[23:13] <rubiksmomo> login loop @ recovery mode
[23:13] <Edgan> MoPac: what generation of processor?
[23:13] <de-facto> leonarth but dont "infect" other machines if its malicious :Ü
[23:14] <leonarth> de-facto can't copy from a web console window :(
[23:14] <leonarth> but even if I get that file, what do you do with it?
[23:14] <de-facto> analyze what bad things it was capable of doing?
[23:14] <leonarth> ooo, sounds very cool :)
[23:14] <de-facto> some files only exist in ram
[23:14] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: If you do not flag me with my nick a great chance I will not see you . did you de-crupt the disk ?
[23:15] <MoPac> Edgan: It's an  i7-4510U (  Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller)
[23:15] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Yeah, I'm in recovery mode & terminal
[23:15] <Apachez> so noob question... how do I find out which apt repo is it thats causing this when I run "apt-get update" on 15.10 today?   There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551
[23:15] <bekks> Apachez: So show us the entire output in a pastebin.
[23:15] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia*" ?
[23:16] <OerHeks> Apachez, most of the times that error occurs when the mirror is out of sync, wait a few minutes or change mirror in softwaresources
[23:16] <Apachez> the thing is, I dont know which mirror
[23:16] <Apachez> there are plenty of repos being checked
[23:16] <qu3n3l> hi
[23:17] <Apachez> bekks: http://pastebin.com/ahRFYAXj
[23:17] <leonarth> de-facto seems that I got exploited via Postgres, ubuntu package comes with version 9.3
[23:18] <leonarth> which has a remote code execution vulnerability
[23:18] <glooby> Hey guys, can I update the kernel to 4.4.8 in Xenial?
[23:18] <de-facto> leonarth hmm how did they got in postgres? was it reachable via network? injected into php?
[23:19] <bekks> Apachez: Wow.
[23:19] <debrisrat> Hi!!
[23:19] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: ' mount -o remount,rw / ' . ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sydo apt install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ; sudo nvidia-xconfig ' .
[23:19] <de-facto> leonarth you need to find out what happened and fix that otherwise they just repeat it and have your server again
[23:19] <leonarth> yeah it was reachable for a few hours as I forgot to turn on `ufw`
[23:19] <qu3n3l> wassup
[23:20] <de-facto> leonarth dont use firewalls, rather config it so it only listend on localhost
[23:20] <leonarth> I blocked all ports via ufw, changes all passwords allowed access only via RSA key
[23:20] <de-facto> use nmap to see what ports are open
[23:20] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: sydo/sudo **
[23:20] <Apachez> bekks: sooo?
[23:20] <leonarth> will update psql as soon as I get network access again
[23:20] <rubiksmomo> ^_^
[23:20] <de-facto> leonarth if they were on the server and had some remote access they could have altered everything...
[23:21] <Edgan> Bashing-om: where is nvidia-364 coming from?
[23:21] <bekks> Apachez: You are experiencing a warning. You are using a lot of PPA. Whats the issue? :)
[23:21] <docktard> hey everyone...is there a more suitable channel for newbs to ask stuff or is it ok here?
[23:21] <Bashing-om> Edgan: Our trusted PPA .
[23:22] <Bashing-om> docktard: Ask here ,, we are not partial .
[23:22] <leonarth> de-facto if they got in through the postgres, they had only posgres user access not root
[23:22] <docktard> I am having a brainlock regarding putting folders in docky
[23:22] <Apachez> bekks: the last line
[23:22] <Edgan> Bashing-om: link?
[23:22] <docktard> I have a xubuntu laptop I havent turned on in a while...and I can't recall how I got it set up
[23:22] <carlf> It seems like we updated openjdk, which mesos depends on. Mesos was uninstalled at the same time. This is unexpected as mesos was explicitly installed.
[23:22] <Apachez> "There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551"
[23:22] <Apachez> searching on google give me 0 results
[23:22] <Apachez> not every day you see that on google nowadays =)
[23:23] <de-facto> leonarth hmm if that process did run as postgres user, but maybe they could have used another exploit to escalate privs? who knows what 0days are on the marked right now
[23:23] <docktard> I have tried to replicate how I had docky set up but keep screwing it up in the same way I screwed it up the first time...only now I cant remember how I fixed it
[23:23] <leonarth> de-facto finally got remote access to the server! where do I put that file?
[23:23] <NoahRDR> Hey all! I'm currently a tech manager at a college radio station, and I need some help troubleshooting some shit with crontab if anyone's down.
[23:23] <bekks> Apachez: It is a warning, not an error.
[23:24] <de-facto> leonarth how big is it?
[23:24] <docktard> I am trying to put a documents folder in the dock..when I drag and drop it from home it moves it rather than links a shortcut...if I duplicate the documents folder and do the sme it doesn't work either
[23:24] <Bashing-om> Edgan: Use with caution ... https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . Have a reason to go there .
[23:24] <docktard> the fix was simple but like an idiot I didnt write it down
[23:24] <tables> what cflags are used in ubuntu binaries?
[23:25] <leonarth> 44K	strangeprogram
[23:25] <leonarth> and yeah de-facto the /root/.ssh/authorized_keys file was a mess, so they managed to escalate to root
[23:25] <docktard> can anyone help walk me through it?
[23:25] <de-facto> aaaw
[23:26] <leonarth> had to delete it, was full of garbage
[23:26] <de-facto> leonarth i hate to say it, but you cant trust your server anymore i guess. need a clean reinstall
[23:26] <Edgan> Bashing-om: 364.12 release notes: Support for DRM KMS   this means Intel style graphical console support?
[23:26] <leonarth> de-facto can't I just scan it with some tools?
[23:27] <de-facto> leonarth nope because they could have done anything, how can a tool find that?
[23:27] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: OK, did all that. Still in login loop. Should I reboot?
[23:27] <de-facto> leonarth you can use debsums but that does not guarantee anything really
[23:27] <leonarth> hmm, verify the md5 hash of all binaries against ubuntu packages?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> Edgan: No .. the 364 driver is a Nvidia graphic's card thing .
[23:28] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Yeah .. reboot to see the effect .
[23:28] <de-facto> leonarth out of interest can you upload that file somewhere?
[23:28] <jajaja> to install gnome on ubuntu.. its just apt-get install gnome?
[23:28] <Edgan> Bashing-om: I know 364 is nvidia. I have been running nvidia cards for 10+ years.
[23:28] <leonarth> de-facto sure
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Edgan: Sorry, then I do not comprehend what you lasr ask of me .
[23:29] <Bashing-om> last*
[23:30] <docktard> can anyone help me with docky/xfce?
[23:30] <docktard> or suggest a channel for such things?
[23:30] <de-facto> leonarth also before you delete anything, you should try to understand what happened and how to prevent it. not sure if a forensic backup could help with any legal issues, just a heads up
[23:30] <bekks> docktard: How do we know without a specific issue?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> !patience | docktard
[23:30] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: still black login screen with normal boot and unresponsive to ctrl+alt+F1
[23:31] <docktard> ubottu I have googled for hours...can't find the solution..I didn't want to spam it over and over
[23:31] <docktard> lol
[23:31] <docktard> i am an idiot
[23:31] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: 361 version driver ? BUT was working once on 364 ??
[23:32] <leonarth> de-facto debsums --change shows nothing and --all shows everything as OK
[23:32] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Yeah, it was weird. It was like this for a minute maybe and then started to work.
[23:32] <de-facto> leonarth but it does not cover all files, they messed with configs and such, really unfortunately you cant trust that system anymore, sorry.
[23:32] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Something else is going on .. have a long read in the system logs ?
[23:33] <de-facto> leonarth if you are sure they messed with root privelegues on your box, everything is possible
[23:33] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Could you copy-paste those commands again and maybe I'll try 361?
[23:33] <leonarth> ./etc/sudoers                                                              FAILED
[23:33] <bekks> leonarth: I've not read the entire backlog - why do you thing you've been exploited?
[23:33] <docktard> Bashing I am new to IRC as well as Linux...how to best ask the questions since it's not a single ling question?
[23:33] <docktard> I don't want to spam it over and over
[23:33] <leonarth> yes bekks through postgres 9.3 remote code execution vuln
[23:33] <bekks> docktard: Question are one sentence, ended by a question mark. No word limit :)
[23:34] <docktard> Well I mean it's more than one question...and don't want to type it over and over and over
[23:34] <bekks> leonarth: Thats not an answer to me. Which signs of being exploited did you notice?
[23:34] <Vonologic> Can someone tell me how I can go about getting proper Bluetooth drivers
[23:35] <Bashing-om> docktard: Protocal is if no response in 20 minutes .. ask again , there is also a decicated channel for xfce .. #xfce .
[23:35] <leonarth> bekks there was this weird ./x86_64 program running
[23:35] <bekks> leonarth: Define "weird".
[23:35] <docktard> ok...thanks. if I recall it's not an xfce specific problem...but I will try there too
[23:35] <leonarth> bekks and CloudOcean disconnected my server from the network due to high traffic
[23:36] <jeremy31> Vonologic: Please ask a question at ubuntuforums.org in the hardware forum as it may take some time
[23:36] <bekks> leonarth: Define "weird".
[23:37] <de-facto> leonarth are you 100% sure there is no other explanation (as another "legal" user who could have caused this, or yourself): <leonarth> and yeah de-facto the /root/.ssh/authorized_keys file was a mess, so they managed to escalate to root
[23:37] <bekks> leonarth: And in case you were exploited, I am wondering why you a) did not shutdown that box already, b) took an entire backup for investigation before, c) did not reinstall that box already.
[23:38] <leonarth> because I'd like to try and recover it :)
[23:38] <metabsd> Ubuntu 16.04 is stable ?
[23:38] <bekks> metabsd: Yes.
[23:39] <bekks> leonarth: you can recover from b)
[23:39] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Yeah .. lemme scroll up and find them .
[23:39] <anticitizen> define stable
[23:39] <bekks> anticitizen: released.
[23:39] <anticitizen> ehh.
[23:39] <metabsd> If I want to use it I will have some stability problem ? I heard some instability on some forum etc..
[23:40] <bekks> metabsd: It is released and supported for 5 years.
[23:40] <anticitizen> i'd argue that no distro is ever purely 'stable', otherwise we'd only update to get new features
[23:40] <Bashing-om>  Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: ' mount -o remount,rw / ' . ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sydo apt install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ; sudo
[23:40] <Bashing-om>                     nvidia-xconfig '
[23:40] <bekks> metabsd: if unsure, use 14.04, which is supported until 2019.
[23:40] <SegFaultAX> Anyone know how I can find the source repository for the openjdk-r ppa? (https://launchpad.net/~openjdk-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa)
[23:40] <bekks> anticitizen: I am not taking that discussion, since released version are considered being stable.
[23:41] <anticitizen> fair enough. but I wouldn't update to 16.04 if I had an AMD graphics card...
[23:41] <anticitizen> but that's AMD's fault, not Ubuntu
[23:42] <Bashing-om> ATI is working real hard to give us what we asked for .. inkernel driver like Intel provides to us .
[23:42] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Why is /etc/X11/xorg.conf missing? I created it before reboot...
[23:42] <de-facto> SegFaultAX "apt-get source <package>" if you use that ppa otherwise use View Package Details and the arrow before your package on the website
[23:42] <OerHeks> SegFaultAX, i think that restricted team uses the normal sourcecode > http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk8/
[23:42] <leonarth> de-facto as per your request: https://www.sendspace.com/file/irarqi
[23:43] <OerHeks> SegFaultAX, else contact the maintainer of that ppa
[23:43] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Hummm ... a good question ,, the config file gets replaced when switching to Intel .
[23:43] <SegFaultAX> Well I want to look at recent changes in how they're managing packaging.
[23:44] <SegFaultAX> So I need the source *and* the commit history
[23:44] <de-facto> leonarth thanks :) really you should follow what bekks (and i said it too, maybe not that clearly) suggested
[23:47] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Right, it only disappears when I do a normal boot
[23:47] <de-facto> leonarth yup thats a backdoor: https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/deefe93405d5dc62b8b8844981b9c2a4e8ab51614f930729f4830c7248c92d97/analysis/1461800781/
[23:47] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: are you presently booting wuth Nvidia ? If we were to re-generate the xorg.conf file .. recon it will persist a reboot ?
[23:48] <leonarth> 25 backdoors? :)
[23:48] <leonarth> seems that Gafgyt is the most common name
[23:49] <de-facto> leonarth a) shutdown b) full backup c) clean install (avoiding what caused them to get into your box this time)
[23:49] <leonarth> between AVs
[23:51] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: yeah, xorg.conf persists if I reboot to recovery mode but disappears if I do a normal boot
[23:51] <dannymichel> I've noticed that minimizing Wine applications makes them disappear. They don't stay in the 'dock(for lack of a better known word)'
[23:51] <dannymichel> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/ubuntu-11-04-fix-show-all-iconsindicators-in-unity-panels-notification-area/ that doesnt work anymore
[23:52] <leonarth> de-facto shouldn't they update the postgres package to v9.4 now that the 9.3 remote code execution vulnerability is out?
[23:52] <docktard> ok sorted some of the problem
[23:52] <docktard> still need help getting an applications folder to work properly
[23:52] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: That is way above ny skill level ,, Something is removing it ! not ubuntu ... Minecraft ?
[23:53] <effectnet> hello what do you use for wallpaper desktop slideshow?
[23:53] <bekks> leonarth: Did you notice ANY signs of that vuln actually being used to intrude your box?
[23:53] <h3ctic> anyone here successfully configure nginx1.10, php7.0-fpm on ubuntu 16.04? please pm.. I need some help :)
[23:53] <bekks> leonarth: And who is "they"?
[23:53] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Not Minecraft, I'm not even getting through the login screen as it's just black screen
[23:53] <rubiksmomo> the black screen eats the xorg.confg
[23:53] <bekks> leonarth: And why is your postgres reachable from the internet?
[23:53] <leonarth> bekks I don't know where to look but that's what digitalocean security staff told me it most probably is
[23:54] <leonarth> bekks it was reachable for an hour or so, forgot to turn on ufw to restrict access only for certain IPs
[23:54] <bekks> leonarth: So carry out a), b) and c).
[23:54] <leonarth> devs need to reach it remotely
[23:54] <bekks> leonarth: you misconfigured your postgres.
[23:54] <ilpollo> hi, i need the spanish chanel , thanks
[23:55] <docktard> I also have two "software & update" icons in /usr/share/applications...different sizes so not exact duplicates...does anyone know what that's about?
[23:55] <bekks> !es | ilpollo
[23:55] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Above my skill level .. But that config file existing is a must .
[23:55] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: OK, thanks for your help
[23:55] <bekks> leonarth: And having a dev pulling a "select * from ..." will cause high traffic, too.
[23:56] <userone> hi
[23:56] <hinderaker> hi
[23:56] <de-facto> leonarth if you are sure they had root please dont think you can fix your box, rather do what bekks suggested
[23:57] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: I would like to keep involved . I do want to know . I jyst do not have the skills to find out . If it is even in a log file "somewhere" .
[23:57] <leonarth> alright guys, you've convinced me, thanks for the help de-facto and bekks
[23:57] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: right
[23:58] <rubiksmomo> Anyone knows what causes my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to disappear on normal boot (I get black login screen). It does remain in safe mode (I get login loop).
[23:58] <leonarth> bekks one thing though, if I backup and restore the postgres DB on a new box, could I move over the vulnerability with me?
[23:58] <_44trent3> how do I mark my USB as bootable in gparted?
[23:58] <de-facto> leonarth also you need to understand how they got in prevent it from happening again on a clean install
[23:58] <bekks> leonarth: Sure, by using a vulnerable postgres version.
[23:59] <bekks> _44trent3: you dont need to. It is up to your BIOS to boot it.
[23:59] <_44trent3> well, wouldn't it need a bootable flag? i'm going to burn a windows 7 iso on to it
[23:59] <anticitizen> rubiksmomo: check this out, might help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1310489
[23:59] <bekks> _44trent3: a bootable flag was needed 20 years ago.
[23:59] <leonarth> so I'll just make sure on the new box, 9.4 is installed manually instead of letting Ubuntu pkg manager put the vuln 9.3 by default
[23:59] <_44trent3> but...windows 7 isn't UEFI or something...
[23:59] <anticitizen> beat you by one second ubottu :)