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* QuinnStorm pokes around "hey, if I want to upgrade wily+kubuntu-ci to xenial, is there a path?"00:03
Defiance_anyone know whats going on with kde.org? it's been down for a couple of days now00:13
goddardDefiance_: its just you dude00:17
Defiance_isitdownrightnow reports it down also for 4 days 9 hours00:17
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valorieDefiance_: a lovely ddos01:54
valoriebut four days? nah01:55
valorieQuinnStorm: just `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`01:56
valoriethen `sudo do-release-upgrade`01:57
valorieall without the ticks01:57
valorieQuinnStorm: you will head off difficulties if you also remove all PPAs and kubuntu-ci (unless you plan and continuing to use that) before upgrading01:58
valorieusually they are removed/disabled automatically, but I noticed a few left around this last upgrade01:59
valorieand I don't think I filed a bug about it01:59
gorgonzolahello all! I got a bit of an emergency: I'm in the middle of upgrading to Xenial, but for some reason plasma became completely unresponsive: I can see the desktop and move the mouse cursor, but neither the keyboard nor mouse clicks have any effect, and the upgrade s stuck waiting for an answer to a conf question. What should i do?02:06
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FlameReaper-PCmorning, I have tried looking into xorg.conf last night for my wacom tablet problems but I can't see a clue02:58
FlameReaper-PCthe problem: the system sees the tablet but does not register strokes and clicks made by it other than inside mypaint02:58
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SergioEDuran1Hi friends03:54
SergioEDuran1somebody know how to install telepathy morse and telegram qt on Kubuntu?03:56
SergioEDuran1I preffer use KTP to the official telegram desktop app because I care a lot the design and look of my OS03:56
valorieSergioEDuran1: please tell me if you figure it out -- last time I tried, morse was installed, but not used03:59
valorieand the telegram client wouldn't connect with my phone, so i'm left using the webclient03:59
SergioEDuran1I see03:59
valoriethe telegram qt is called cutegram I think04:00
valorie!info cutegram04:00
ubottuPackage cutegram does not exist in xenial04:00
valoriehmmm04:00
valorie!info qtgram04:00
ubottuPackage qtgram does not exist in xenial04:00
SergioEDuran1exactly, it has not been updated to xenial04:01
FlameReaper-PChttp://aseman.co/en/products/cutegram/ ?04:01
FlameReaper-PCyeah04:01
SergioEDuran1I will get it; it is the only good looking telegram client on Linux is not it? the official one uses the system titlebar04:02
valorieI'd love to use it in telepathy04:03
SergioEDuran1me too04:03
valoriesomebody needs to join the kde-telepathy team and get it working04:05
valorieall those guys are busy with other things afaik04:05
valoriethe KTp team I mean04:05
FlameReaper-PCvalorie: at the same time I also wish someone picks kde-config-tablet back up :)04:07
valorieFlameReaper-PC: I imagine the team who used to do that would welcome your help04:16
valorie!info kde-config-tablet04:16
ubottuPackage kde-config-tablet does not exist in xenial04:16
derycoAnyone having issues with Discover not finding anything you search for?04:18
derycoKubuntu 16.0404:18
FlameReaper-PCvalorie: I wish I could code, but I'm primarily an artist with little knowledge on program code04:19
valorieFlameReaper-PC: projects need more than coders04:21
valorieespecially they need testers, writers, and sometimes artists too04:21
valoriederyco: discover is an app store04:21
valorieso it finds applications, not packages04:22
valorieif you want a package manager, try Muon, which has been re-released04:22
derycoyeh its nto returning any results when I search04:27
derycoits blank04:28
derycoIm not searxhing for installed packages04:28
valoriewhen I search in Discover, all kinds of stuff shows up04:36
valoriefor instance "mail" gives me over ten choices04:36
valoriethe same search in Muon gives me probably 20004:38
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viewer|86129Hey all just d/l and installed 16.04 to Dell Optiplex 9010 MT with dual monitors via DP. Monitors are going blank for 2 seconds at random intervals, but seems to mainly be when i have Konsole open. Ideas?05:15
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ejayI just updated FF from backports (I'm on 16.04). Is there any way to change icons?08:28
AciD`is there an alternative to plasmashell08:55
AciD`it keeps using between 15 to 40% CPU (and I have a core i5)08:56
AciD`?08:56
hateballAciD`: Is this when idling?08:56
AciD`yep08:56
hateballAciD`: Got a lot of plasmoids or such?08:56
AciD`nop, only the analog clock08:57
AciD`I do have a 2560x1440 resolution08:57
AciD`and before kwin chocked on that08:57
hateballAciD`: long uptime?08:57
AciD`(meaning is was utterly slow)08:57
AciD`1day, 12 hours08:57
AciD`:(08:58
hateballAciD`: you could restart with "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell", see if that helps08:58
hateballAciD`: and have a look in ~/.xsession-errors for anything that looks out of order08:58
AciD`ok, before killing plasmashell : http://imgur.com/Cg4oIN8 and after killing it : http://imgur.com/XGW3epD09:01
AciD`whouch09:02
AciD`I typed kwrite ~/.xsession-errors in krunner09:03
AciD`got a 4.5Gio ram eating kwrite launch09:03
AciD`1.3G Apr 27 23:03 .xsession-errors09:03
AciD`I think something is wrong indeed09:03
hateballyes, usually GPU drivers09:04
AciD`well, I have 20863863 lines of log to read09:04
AciD`see you next week.09:04
hateballBut the log should give some hints. Usually it just repeats the same stuff over and over09:04
hateballjust tail -n 1000 ~/.xsession-errors09:05
hateballshould give you some hint09:05
AciD`this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16092723/09:05
AciD`a truly helping log!09:07
hateballAciD`: that's not really 1000 lines tho09:07
hateballI count 509:07
AciD`well I'm going up in the log, and I only see this09:07
hateballah09:07
AciD`and some 'normal' log09:07
AciD`like kscreen saving stuff, etc09:07
hateballgoogle gives https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-bugs-dist@kde.org/msg27738.html09:08
hateballSo some app is misbehaving09:08
AciD`ah, plasmashell is back to eating 26% of the cpu :(09:09
AciD`I'm not lucky, I don't have kiten installed09:09
hateballAciD`: Try with a new user. If that works properly, you're going to have to nail down which app or plasmoid is causing this09:10
AciD`I'll try to close everything09:10
hateballlooking at your scrot... you have a lot :p09:10
* AciD` <- (annoyed) power-user09:11
AciD`;P09:11
AciD`if only the xsession-log could show the name of the app/module outputing that, like in dmesg...09:11
hateballI'm not sure if you can strace plasmashell or something, this is beyond the scope of my knowledge09:12
hateballAciD`: Someone in #kde may know how to dig deeper into plasmashell troubleshooting09:12
AciD`mgraesslin I guess?09:13
AciD`too bad he's not here09:13
hateballHe's likely to know a bit yes09:13
AciD`at least, I see a log09:13
AciD`it's a start09:13
AciD`in the meantime I could create a cron job to kill plasmashell every 5 minutes09:14
hateballhaha09:15
AciD`weird, I deleted the big .xession-errors file09:15
AciD`and it's not getting recreated09:16
hateballwell the inode is still there, you'll need to restart your session to see it make a new file tho09:18
MaxirideAfter a couple of days using xenial I'm encoutering an error while connecting to a wifi network which used to work before the update.09:36
MaxirideI get: connection gateway ping timeout, can not set guint09:36
Maxiridetype guint is invalid or out of range for property 'gateway-ping-timout' of type 'guint'09:37
MaxirideI'm not finding much infos on the net. however I can connect to the wifi, but I can't browse the internet or ping anything.09:37
AciD`I think I can leave without plasmashell for a while, since I mostly use krunner for launching things..09:49
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BluesKajHowdy all10:13
six86Hello. Since upgrading we have the following problem on multiple notebook: Randomly while working the screen goes black for about a second. This happens only with one of two monitors.10:15
BluesKajsix86, radeon gpu?10:17
six86BluesKaj: Intel OnBoard10:17
BluesKajmultiple monitors isn't my strong suit, especially intel gpus have very few issues10:20
hateballIt doesnt go black for me, but I get random flickering10:20
hateballIn general dual monitors works less great now than they did on 14.04, for me10:20
viewer|43918Hi, I have a serious problem here.10:22
viewer|43918My Kubuntu 14.04.4 has started with some Gnome! And there's no Plasma anymore!10:23
viewer|43918I tried to add repos given in some pages, but it says there's no such repo!10:24
six86On 15.10 already Multi monitor was a pain in the ass here. After undocking/docking usually everything goes south. No output at all, No taskbar/window decorations..We have Notebooks and use them with Docking stations. In 14.04 everything was fine, since 15.10 we are shutting down, pulling the notebook out and booting it again...10:24
six86Now with 16.04 it got a little better, but there is this annoying screen blanking10:24
viewer|43918Here's the repo:10:24
viewer|43918sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon/kf510:24
MaxirideBluesKaj: here we are, I get a popup saying ->https://paste.kde.org/pm22h9q86 when connecting to any wifi network except my phone's hotspot10:25
hateballsix86: as for panels etc disappearing, you could try restarting plasmashell, "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell"10:25
viewer|43918How can I bring back my Plasma?10:26
hateballsix86: and for the blanking, I guess toy around with compositing/rendering options10:26
Maxiridethe effect is that I'm ubale to browse\ping anything even if my credentials are accepted upon the wifi connection BluesKaj10:26
BluesKajMaxiride, yes i got the same popup a whileback, but it was with my wifi. however it still connected ok10:26
hateballviewer|43918: Well, if you're adding PPAs from "some pages" there's really no telling what you might have done to your system10:27
hateball!ppa | viewer|4391810:27
ubottuviewer|43918: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge10:27
MaxirideI've found a bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574826 but still unsolved. Is there any workaround?10:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1574826 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 16.04 LTS network connection (VPN, and WPA2 WLAN) fails: "connection.gateway-ping-timeout: cannot set property: value of "###" of type 'guint' is invalid or out of range for property type 'gateway-ping-timeout' of type 'guint'"" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:27
MaxirideIs there a way to downgrade network manager for a while untile it is fixed? BluesKaj10:27
hateballviewer|43918: That said, try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"10:27
BluesKajMaxiride, this elemntary, but I have to ask anyway, have you updated and upgraded to the latest packages?10:29
viewer|43918Thank you @ubottu and @hateball And how can I remove the ppa I recently added?10:29
hateball!ppa-purge | viewer|4391810:29
ubottuviewer|43918: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html10:29
MaxirideBluesKaj: Yes I'm on Xenial and I did a apt-get update  and upgrade as soon I connected to the hotspot but it didn't solved the isue10:30
Maxiride*issue10:30
viewer|43918Thanks again! @ubottu10:30
BluesKajmauboyyu is a bot, viewer|4391810:30
BluesKajubottu10:31
viewer|43918really @BluesKaj? LOLZ! Thanks! And thank you anyway @ubottu!10:32
BluesKajMaxiride, can you you clarify , your hotspot works but regular wifi doesn't , correct?10:33
MaxirideBluesKaj: yes, My mobile hotsport works fine. When connecting to a PEAP WPA2 with MSCHAPv2 wifi network I have the before mentioned error10:35
florianociao10:44
Maxirideciao floriano10:44
BluesKajMaxiride, I don't have a workaround atm, unless you have access to WEP/WPA  protocol for wifi, that should work10:47
MaxirideBluesKaj: what do you mean by having access to the wep\wpa protocol?10:48
BluesKajMaxiride, normal wifi protocol on laptops for example .. I have noexperience with PEAP WPA2 with MSCHAPv2 wifi networks10:49
MaxirideBluesKaj: ok, thanks anyway =)10:51
BluesKajMaxiride, are you at work or home?10:52
BluesKajjust curious about that wifi protocol you use10:53
MaxirideBluesKaj: at work in the university10:53
MaxirideBluesKaj: it should be a 802.1x wifi network10:54
MaxirideBluesKaj: more info here if you want http://icts.unitn.it/en/unitn-x-wireless-network or let me know your questions10:55
BluesKajyes, most are, but that PEAP WPA2 with MSCHAPv2 wifi network sounds like a WAN with a more secure/complicated setup than I'm used to.10:56
hateballMaxiride: fwiw, we run the same setup here at work and it "just works"10:57
hateballSo I am guessing it's a bug that doesnt affect everyone using 802.1x and mschapv210:57
BluesKajMaxiride, so it's the authentication that is different ..10:58
hateballMaxiride: Do you see any errors in dmesg?10:58
hateballWhenever I've had troubles with this it's always been shoddy firmware/drivers, but they at least tend to spit out something10:59
Maxiridehateball: no I didn't checked dmesg10:59
Maxirideand by the way, how do I do it?10:59
hateballBluesKaj: yeah it's normally used in large deployments, so you use your personal user account rather than a pre-shared key10:59
hateballMaxiride: oh, just run "dmesg" in a terminal11:00
hateballMaxiride: altho now with systemd, it may hide things. So run "journalctl -b" also11:00
Maxiridehateball: woah, hundreds of lines xD11:00
hateballwell, not hide... just... not have things written to it11:00
hateballMaxiride: Well yes, you'll want to try and auth to wifi, then check dmesg after that11:01
Maxirideuploading the outputs11:03
MaxirideHere is the dmesg https://paste.kde.org/p9xdd5gig11:07
Maxirideand the journalctl -b paste gave me a 500 error on paste kde xD11:09
Maxirideshould be this one https://paste.kde.org/p3eoveyfy11:10
hateballMaxiride: is it 2.4ghz or 5ghz ?11:15
hateballheh11:18
haakonnhi, after upgrading to xenial, plasmashell takes up 100% cpu all the time. known problem?11:19
BluesKajhateball, which do you use ? I use both 2.4 and 5 concurrently11:19
hateballBluesKaj: I use both. It's just that some chipsets have issues with 5ghz11:19
hateballSo for troubleshooting one can force to use 2.4ghz only11:20
Ccdc_DuckZhello, what packages do I need to write and run ruby kde plasmoids in ubuntu? I've installed korundum4 as explained here https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma4/Ruby/GettingStarted but I still can't run the sample script from that page, I get a window with a message "Could not create a ruby-script Script Engine for the DeskLight widget"11:20
six86Played aroudn with the compositor settings, so far nothing helped11:46
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six86diasbling compositing also doesn't help11:59
ChrisNLHello Friends! I am looking for some documentation on editing some files in the plasma configuration. Mainly some documentation about the JavaScript files would be very much appreciated! [Trying to edit /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js]12:11
ChrisNLThe only thing I managed to find is the userbase article about 'KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting'. But it leaves out to much about the seemingly global variables.12:12
SpecialistHi! Is there really no upgrade path from Kubuntu 14.04 to 16.04? update-manager only offers to upgrade to 15.10...12:25
acheron88I seems to recall that upgrade via update manager will not be offered until xenial hits it first point release at 16.04.1?12:27
ChrisNLThe point release is more stable ...12:27
Specialistare there upgrade alternatives that allow me to skip 15.10?12:27
hateballNo12:28
hateballSpecialist: At your own peril you can upgrade to 16.04 using do-release-upgrade -d, but really you are better off waiting for the point release12:28
Specialisthm, ok. is there an eta for 16.04.1? upgrading now would fit in quite nicely from my schedule, but if there's no option i'll have to live with it ;-)12:29
acheron88http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2016/04/21/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-released/12:31
Specialistthx!12:31
acheron88"Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st. "12:31
madwizardIs there a way to force Driver Manager to finally collect data on my system?13:50
madwizardI have Xenial kubuntu fresh install since Monday and each time I open Driver Manager, it says it collects infirmation about syste,13:51
soee_madwizard: it is broken13:53
soee_what driver you want to install?13:53
hateballmadwizard: You can use ubuntu-drivers from the cli13:53
soee_CPU microcode and GPU ?13:53
madwizardnvidia proprietary drivers13:55
madwizardI installed via apt-get, but system seems unable to locate the module13:55
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madwizardthere's no nvidia module, just nvidia_36113:57
madwizardAlso, I'm not sure this is proper version13:57
hateballmadwizard: what GPU chipset do you have?13:58
hateballnvidia-361 is the latest included driver in 16.04, so that's quite alright13:58
madwizard08:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)13:59
madwizardIt's notebook13:59
madwizardUsed to work a-okay with Xenial-beta13:59
user|54394Just a quick question -- how might I upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04? Or is a clean install recommended?13:59
user|54394nevermind, I think I found an answer14:00
user|54394sorry, premature14:00
hateballmadwizard: I don't recall in which versions there were issues with hybrid gpus, but I *think* they are fixed in the latest beta 36414:01
madwizardHm14:01
hateballmadwizard: but you'll need to use this unsupported !ppa for that https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa14:01
BluesKajsudo do-release-upgrade, user|5439414:01
user|54394It says no new release found14:02
user|54394but I'm definitely running 15.1014:02
BluesKajuser|54394, but update and upgrade your packages on 15.10 first14:02
user|54394I already did that14:03
user|54394and restarted14:03
user|54394lsb_release -a shows I'm running 15.1014:03
BluesKajmake sure your update manager isn't set to no new release14:03
user|54394I did14:03
user|54394Muon also shows "no update available"14:04
user|54394I do get this message when I run "apt-get update":14:04
user|54394W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:14:04
user|543941397BC53640DB55114:04
BluesKajyou have appa blocking it14:05
user|54394alright I removed all my ppas, but same result14:10
BluesKajuser|54394, pastebin your sources.list14:12
BluesKaj!pastebin14:13
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:13
user|54394I think I'm just going to do a clean install14:14
user|54394something seems broken14:14
user|54394but here it is:14:15
user|54394http://pastebin.com/2nNSLPw014:15
rodolfojcjhello everybody14:17
rodolfojcjlast week I upgraded from Kubuntu 15.10 to Kubuntu 16.04. Overall it's working fine and I like the improvements, thanks to the community for all of that!14:18
BluesKajuser|54394, nothing wrong there ...strange , but i would recheck the update manager agfain just to make sure, otherwise I'm stumped14:20
rodolfojcjnow I would like to get these working: a) enable/have suspend menu option in K Menu, b) enable/have suspend and hibernate buttons in the login screen, c) enable/have telepathy-salut protocol enable to chat with other users in a LAN environment14:20
rodolfojcjdo you have any clues about get those 3 points working??14:21
BluesKajrodolfojcj, my first question is always have  you updated and full-upgraded since your install?14:24
ChrisNL@rodolfojcj: b) enable/have suspend and hibernate buttons in the login screen: this you will likely need to configure in the sddm theme of your choice. See: /usr/share/sddm/themes/14:25
rodolfojcj@BluesKaj, I did one, but I will execute another one just to check again14:26
rodolfojcjIn /usr/share/sddm/themes/ there's only the "breeze" theme. That configuration would be editing .conf and/or .qml files, right?14:28
madwizardIs there a way to download .iso of Xenial beta, still?14:29
BluesKajmadwizard, why?14:40
madwizardBluesKaj: Not sure what changed, but I had Kubuntu Beta2 install working fine with proprietary nvidia drivers14:40
madwizardAlso, Beta 2 had working VPN import, while release throws error14:41
madwizardBluesKaj: I'd like to verify it's reproducible14:42
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BluesKajmadwizard, looked for beta 2 but no luck the links to it have all been updated to the offoical release14:46
madwizardOkay, thank you14:47
madwizardHad the same results14:47
BluesKajmadwizard, I'm testing Yakkety 16.10 already and it's running great so, and no vpn troubles14:49
BluesKajmadwizard, , which nvidia gpu ?14:49
madwizard08:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)14:50
BluesKajoptimus ?14:50
madwizardOkay, ubuntu-drivers autoinstall resulted in nvidia-361 and blank screen14:50
madwizardBluesKaj: No, don't think so14:50
madwizardsddm is up14:50
madwizardXorg process is up14:51
madwizardBack to nouveau at the moment14:51
madwizardI'll try to play around during weekend14:51
madwizardThank you all, guys, for you help14:51
BluesKajmadwizard, try the 358 driver14:52
madwizardNot in my list, probably need from a ppa?14:53
madwizardThe one that hateball pasted?14:53
BluesKajshouldn't no , just install nvidia-35814:54
BluesKajno ppa14:54
madwizardNo package14:54
BluesKajit's a slight regression14:54
BluesKajbummer14:54
ChrisNLAnyone any idea how to add widgets/plasmoids for ALL users?15:06
ZrenChrisNL: Probably copy the plasmoid in ~/.local/share/plasmoids to /usr/share/plasmoids15:16
Zren*/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/15:17
ZrenThere's probably not a ui for it15:17
ChrisNLZren: this folder does not seem to exist on my 16.04 Beta2 VM.15:25
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ChrisNLAnd any non-ui option is very much appreciated =D. I even looked into editing layout.js files.15:26
Zrenhttps://i.imgur.com/uKcc4fs.png15:26
Zren~/.local/share/plasma/plasmoids *15:26
ChrisNLI have a folderview plasmoid added but only have an 'org.kde.resourcesMonitor' dir under ~/.local/share/plasma/plasmoids. Are you running the latest version by chance?15:29
ChrisNL(Running plasma 5.5.4).15:29
viewer|28700hi15:31
viewer|28700i just want to ask how to upgrade KDE Plasma to 5.6.3 thx15:32
ZrenChrisNL: The ones in the home directory are the ones you install from the internet15:32
ZrenThe ones in /usr/share are the preinstalled ones (and probably ones installed from apt get)15:33
viewer|28700ok this is my biggest problem as always when kde plasma is realase15:33
viewer|28700how to do it15:34
ChrisNLAh right. I see.15:34
ChrisNLSorry. My bad. What I meant is not installing but configuring a widget to be on the desktop of all users.15:34
Zrenah15:34
ZrenHmmm.15:34
ChrisNLInstalling is the easy part =P15:34
ZrenI guess you could copy ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc15:35
viewer|28700but how15:35
Zrenbut that's the config data for _all_ config stuff15:35
Zrenall _widget_ config stuff15:36
viewer|28700ok ok how to upgrade kde 5.5 to kde 5.6.315:37
ChrisNLThe plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc seems to be generated at the plasma init.15:37
ChrisNLThe exact script that does this is: /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js15:37
ChrisNLIf you edit this you can get widgets automagically added for all users. But it's preeeeety ugly and there is nearly zero documenation.15:38
acheron88viewer|28700: 5.6 isn't packaged for kubuntu yet.15:38
viewer|28700hmmm how do you now?15:40
viewer|28700How do you know when it will be available15:40
yotuxInstall quesiton in regards to LVM15:40
yotuxDoes 16.04 require a seperate /boot15:41
acheron88viewer|28700: Normally announced on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/15:42
BluesKaj!lvm15:42
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto15:42
BluesKajyotux,^15:43
yotuxthanks15:43
yotuxreading now....15:43
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yotuxSo I did some reading on the referenced artciles and most of the data is 4 years old on LVM16:10
yotuxI created a seperate boot not sure if this is still needed, but it this still okay?16:10
madwizardyotux: Its how installer does it16:10
madwizardSeparate boot partition, the rest on lvm16:11
madwizardIf yoy choose lvm root of courde16:11
madwizardSorry for typos16:11
yotuxNo worries I install a couple of VM's and was running out of space so LVM seemed like a better idea16:12
yotuxmadwizard: thank you for your input found some sites stated grub2 can work with LVM root at boot16:13
ascii-souphi - i've just built konsole from source (on ubuntu 15.10) and changed the 'margin' that gets set - this works in konsole itself, but doesn't seem to be getting picked up in the konsole_part that (I assume) gets used by Kate + Yakuake16:14
ascii-soup pretty much did a cmake/make/make install, but I'm wondering if I need to do anything else in order to get Kate + Yakuake to use the kpart from my newly built version?16:14
yotuxthe new package manager Discover when searching for a package results page is blank16:54
BluesKajyotux, install muon17:02
yotuxBluesKaj:  thank you, thought it was strange it was not installed in 16.0417:10
SergioEDuran1Hello friends17:50
SergioEDuran1wich Qt note taking app do you recommend to me? some alternative to Evernote / OneNote?17:50
SergioEDuran1Klots was amazing but I do not see it on the repos long time ago17:51
BluesKajSergioEDuran1, try noblenote17:55
wxlhey has klipper somehow been rolled into plasma-desktop in xenial?18:23
wxlthat seems to be what's suggested at least18:24
soee_huh ?18:29
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SergioEDuran1Blueskay thank you :)18:52
viewer|78270Hi, I wanted to upgrade to 16.04 LTS from 14.04 LTS, but I guess the packages are not yet available. Is there a plan/date when these become available18:54
soee_viewer|78270: i think you will be informed about update available when 16.04.1 is released18:57
soee_now you can manually upgrade18:57
viewer|78270Okay. When is 16.04.1 expected?18:58
soee_viewer|78270: i think ~ one month after 16.04 was released18:59
soee_!schedule xenial18:59
soee_!schedule18:59
soee_uh sorry: 14.04 LTS to LTS upgrades will be enabled with the 16.04.1 LTS point release, in approximately 3 months time.19:00
soee_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_or_15.1019:00
viewer|78270Hmm, that's sad. I've been waiting sooo long, and now I've either to wait three more months or hassle with manual updates.19:05
soee_well you just have to run one command19:06
viewer|78270Anyway thanks for the info. Maybe I'll even try the one command update. Thanks again.19:07
soee_should work just fine, just run: sudo do-release-upgrade19:07
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viphi ho, do you have problems with (16.04) kmail2 and imap subscriptions? I cannot unsubscribe folders...19:22
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user|36899Hello. I have just installed Kubuntu 16.04 (64 bits) in one of my machines in a partition in the HDD (have windows there too). However, after everything and initiating the installation, the computer freezes on a screen where it says the installation will finish soon, but never finishes. What should be done?20:36
user|13371just loaded 16.2 32bit and now im getting a grub rescure command ??21:28
user|13371help21:29
user|13371sorry 16.421:33
user|13371on my older unit i now get grub error 21???21:39
user|13371great can anyone help21:42
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user|13371i will try again  i have just installed 16.4  32bit on a system and cannot get past grub keep getting grub rescue PLEASE help22:42
viewer|1315hi22:52
soeehiho22:57
Startrek852Hello.23:31
Startrek852So, I have a question. How long would it take to move 48 GBs of data to an NTFS partition using mv?23:33
geniiStartrek852: There is not a good answer, unfortunately. Much depends on the speeds of the devices where the data currently is, where it's going, bus speed, controller speed, etc. Too many variables. The best way is try to move something like maybe a gig in size, note how long then multiply by 4823:36
Startrek852OK, I'll try that. Would mv be the fastest or is there anything faster?23:37
Startrek852I'm using 15.1023:37
geniino, mv is fastest. You could do something like: date +%s && mv /whatever /wherever && date +%s   ...then subtract the first number from the second number and you have how long in seconds it took23:40
Startrek852genii: or just use time23:42
geniiStartrek852: Keep in mind also, if these are linux files currently on a filesystem like ext which uses permissions, rwx and so on, those will not be retained on NTFS23:42
Startrek852OK.23:42
Startrek852So should I make an ext4 partition for these files?23:43
geniiYes, the command "time" also works23:43
Startrek852And would schedtool help mv at all?23:43
geniiStartrek852: Yes, ext2/3/4 is best if you need to keep executable bits, permissions, etc23:44
geniiStartrek852: I'm not familiar with schedtool, so I don't know :)23:45
Startrek852genii: thanks.23:45
Startrek852Anyone here familiar with schedtool?23:45

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