[00:03]  * QuinnStorm pokes around "hey, if I want to upgrade wily+kubuntu-ci to xenial, is there a path?"
[00:13] <Defiance_> anyone know whats going on with kde.org? it's been down for a couple of days now
[00:17] <goddard> Defiance_: its just you dude
[00:17] <Defiance_> isitdownrightnow reports it down also for 4 days 9 hours
[01:54] <valorie> Defiance_: a lovely ddos
[01:55] <valorie> but four days? nah
[01:56] <valorie> QuinnStorm: just `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[01:57] <valorie> then `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[01:57] <valorie> all without the ticks
[01:58] <valorie> QuinnStorm: you will head off difficulties if you also remove all PPAs and kubuntu-ci (unless you plan and continuing to use that) before upgrading
[01:59] <valorie> usually they are removed/disabled automatically, but I noticed a few left around this last upgrade
[01:59] <valorie> and I don't think I filed a bug about it
[02:06] <gorgonzola> hello all! I got a bit of an emergency: I'm in the middle of upgrading to Xenial, but for some reason plasma became completely unresponsive: I can see the desktop and move the mouse cursor, but neither the keyboard nor mouse clicks have any effect, and the upgrade s stuck waiting for an answer to a conf question. What should i do?
[02:58] <FlameReaper-PC> morning, I have tried looking into xorg.conf last night for my wacom tablet problems but I can't see a clue
[02:58] <FlameReaper-PC> the problem: the system sees the tablet but does not register strokes and clicks made by it other than inside mypaint
[03:54] <SergioEDuran1> Hi friends
[03:56] <SergioEDuran1> somebody know how to install telepathy morse and telegram qt on Kubuntu?
[03:56] <SergioEDuran1> I preffer use KTP to the official telegram desktop app because I care a lot the design and look of my OS
[03:59] <valorie> SergioEDuran1: please tell me if you figure it out -- last time I tried, morse was installed, but not used
[03:59] <valorie> and the telegram client wouldn't connect with my phone, so i'm left using the webclient
[03:59] <SergioEDuran1> I see
[04:00] <valorie> the telegram qt is called cutegram I think
[04:00] <valorie> !info cutegram
[04:00] <valorie> hmmm
[04:00] <valorie> !info qtgram
[04:01] <SergioEDuran1> exactly, it has not been updated to xenial
[04:01] <FlameReaper-PC> http://aseman.co/en/products/cutegram/ ?
[04:01] <FlameReaper-PC> yeah
[04:02] <SergioEDuran1> I will get it; it is the only good looking telegram client on Linux is not it? the official one uses the system titlebar
[04:03] <valorie> I'd love to use it in telepathy
[04:03] <SergioEDuran1> me too
[04:05] <valorie> somebody needs to join the kde-telepathy team and get it working
[04:05] <valorie> all those guys are busy with other things afaik
[04:05] <valorie> the KTp team I mean
[04:07] <FlameReaper-PC> valorie: at the same time I also wish someone picks kde-config-tablet back up :)
[04:16] <valorie> FlameReaper-PC: I imagine the team who used to do that would welcome your help
[04:16] <valorie> !info kde-config-tablet
[04:18] <deryco> Anyone having issues with Discover not finding anything you search for?
[04:18] <deryco> Kubuntu 16.04
[04:19] <FlameReaper-PC> valorie: I wish I could code, but I'm primarily an artist with little knowledge on program code
[04:21] <valorie> FlameReaper-PC: projects need more than coders
[04:21] <valorie> especially they need testers, writers, and sometimes artists too
[04:21] <valorie> deryco: discover is an app store
[04:22] <valorie> so it finds applications, not packages
[04:22] <valorie> if you want a package manager, try Muon, which has been re-released
[04:27] <deryco> yeh its nto returning any results when I search
[04:28] <deryco> its blank
[04:28] <deryco> Im not searxhing for installed packages
[04:36] <valorie> when I search in Discover, all kinds of stuff shows up
[04:36] <valorie> for instance "mail" gives me over ten choices
[04:38] <valorie> the same search in Muon gives me probably 200
[05:15] <viewer|86129> Hey all just d/l and installed 16.04 to Dell Optiplex 9010 MT with dual monitors via DP. Monitors are going blank for 2 seconds at random intervals, but seems to mainly be when i have Konsole open. Ideas?
[08:28] <ejay> I just updated FF from backports (I'm on 16.04). Is there any way to change icons?
[08:55] <AciD`> is there an alternative to plasmashell
[08:56] <AciD`> it keeps using between 15 to 40% CPU (and I have a core i5)
[08:56] <AciD`> ?
[08:56] <hateball> AciD`: Is this when idling?
[08:56] <AciD`> yep
[08:56] <hateball> AciD`: Got a lot of plasmoids or such?
[08:57] <AciD`> nop, only the analog clock
[08:57] <AciD`> I do have a 2560x1440 resolution
[08:57] <AciD`> and before kwin chocked on that
[08:57] <hateball> AciD`: long uptime?
[08:57] <AciD`> (meaning is was utterly slow)
[08:57] <AciD`> 1day, 12 hours
[08:58] <AciD`> :(
[08:58] <hateball> AciD`: you could restart with "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell", see if that helps
[08:58] <hateball> AciD`: and have a look in ~/.xsession-errors for anything that looks out of order
[09:01] <AciD`> ok, before killing plasmashell : http://imgur.com/Cg4oIN8 and after killing it : http://imgur.com/XGW3epD
[09:02] <AciD`> whouch
[09:03] <AciD`> I typed kwrite ~/.xsession-errors in krunner
[09:03] <AciD`> got a 4.5Gio ram eating kwrite launch
[09:03] <AciD`> 1.3G Apr 27 23:03 .xsession-errors
[09:03] <AciD`> I think something is wrong indeed
[09:04] <hateball> yes, usually GPU drivers
[09:04] <AciD`> well, I have 20863863 lines of log to read
[09:04] <AciD`> see you next week.
[09:04] <hateball> But the log should give some hints. Usually it just repeats the same stuff over and over
[09:05] <hateball> just tail -n 1000 ~/.xsession-errors
[09:05] <hateball> should give you some hint
[09:05] <AciD`> this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16092723/
[09:07] <AciD`> a truly helping log!
[09:07] <hateball> AciD`: that's not really 1000 lines tho
[09:07] <hateball> I count 5
[09:07] <AciD`> well I'm going up in the log, and I only see this
[09:07] <hateball> ah
[09:07] <AciD`> and some 'normal' log
[09:07] <AciD`> like kscreen saving stuff, etc
[09:08] <hateball> google gives https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-bugs-dist@kde.org/msg27738.html
[09:08] <hateball> So some app is misbehaving
[09:09] <AciD`> ah, plasmashell is back to eating 26% of the cpu :(
[09:09] <AciD`> I'm not lucky, I don't have kiten installed
[09:10] <hateball> AciD`: Try with a new user. If that works properly, you're going to have to nail down which app or plasmoid is causing this
[09:10] <AciD`> I'll try to close everything
[09:10] <hateball> looking at your scrot... you have a lot :p
[09:11]  * AciD` <- (annoyed) power-user
[09:11] <AciD`> ;P
[09:11] <AciD`> if only the xsession-log could show the name of the app/module outputing that, like in dmesg...
[09:12] <hateball> I'm not sure if you can strace plasmashell or something, this is beyond the scope of my knowledge
[09:12] <hateball> AciD`: Someone in #kde may know how to dig deeper into plasmashell troubleshooting
[09:13] <AciD`> mgraesslin I guess?
[09:13] <AciD`> too bad he's not here
[09:13] <hateball> He's likely to know a bit yes
[09:13] <AciD`> at least, I see a log
[09:13] <AciD`> it's a start
[09:14] <AciD`> in the meantime I could create a cron job to kill plasmashell every 5 minutes
[09:15] <hateball> haha
[09:15] <AciD`> weird, I deleted the big .xession-errors file
[09:16] <AciD`> and it's not getting recreated
[09:18] <hateball> well the inode is still there, you'll need to restart your session to see it make a new file tho
[09:36] <Maxiride> After a couple of days using xenial I'm encoutering an error while connecting to a wifi network which used to work before the update.
[09:36] <Maxiride> I get: connection gateway ping timeout, can not set guint
[09:37] <Maxiride> type guint is invalid or out of range for property 'gateway-ping-timout' of type 'guint'
[09:37] <Maxiride> I'm not finding much infos on the net. however I can connect to the wifi, but I can't browse the internet or ping anything.
[09:49] <AciD`> I think I can leave without plasmashell for a while, since I mostly use krunner for launching things..
[10:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:15] <six86> Hello. Since upgrading we have the following problem on multiple notebook: Randomly while working the screen goes black for about a second. This happens only with one of two monitors.
[10:17] <BluesKaj> six86, radeon gpu?
[10:17] <six86> BluesKaj: Intel OnBoard
[10:20] <BluesKaj> multiple monitors isn't my strong suit, especially intel gpus have very few issues
[10:20] <hateball> It doesnt go black for me, but I get random flickering
[10:20] <hateball> In general dual monitors works less great now than they did on 14.04, for me
[10:22] <viewer|43918> Hi, I have a serious problem here.
[10:23] <viewer|43918> My Kubuntu 14.04.4 has started with some Gnome! And there's no Plasma anymore!
[10:24] <viewer|43918> I tried to add repos given in some pages, but it says there's no such repo!
[10:24] <six86> On 15.10 already Multi monitor was a pain in the ass here. After undocking/docking usually everything goes south. No output at all, No taskbar/window decorations..We have Notebooks and use them with Docking stations. In 14.04 everything was fine, since 15.10 we are shutting down, pulling the notebook out and booting it again...
[10:24] <six86> Now with 16.04 it got a little better, but there is this annoying screen blanking
[10:24] <viewer|43918> Here's the repo:
[10:24] <viewer|43918> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon/kf5
[10:25] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: here we are, I get a popup saying ->https://paste.kde.org/pm22h9q86 when connecting to any wifi network except my phone's hotspot
[10:25] <hateball> six86: as for panels etc disappearing, you could try restarting plasmashell, "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell"
[10:26] <viewer|43918> How can I bring back my Plasma?
[10:26] <hateball> six86: and for the blanking, I guess toy around with compositing/rendering options
[10:26] <Maxiride> the effect is that I'm ubale to browse\ping anything even if my credentials are accepted upon the wifi connection BluesKaj
[10:26] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, yes i got the same popup a whileback, but it was with my wifi. however it still connected ok
[10:27] <hateball> viewer|43918: Well, if you're adding PPAs from "some pages" there's really no telling what you might have done to your system
[10:27] <hateball> !ppa | viewer|43918
[10:27] <Maxiride> I've found a bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574826 but still unsolved. Is there any workaround?
[10:27] <Maxiride> Is there a way to downgrade network manager for a while untile it is fixed? BluesKaj
[10:27] <hateball> viewer|43918: That said, try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"
[10:29] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, this elemntary, but I have to ask anyway, have you updated and upgraded to the latest packages?
[10:29] <viewer|43918> Thank you @ubottu and @hateball And how can I remove the ppa I recently added?
[10:29] <hateball> !ppa-purge | viewer|43918
[10:30] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: Yes I'm on Xenial and I did a apt-get update  and upgrade as soon I connected to the hotspot but it didn't solved the isue
[10:30] <Maxiride> *issue
[10:30] <viewer|43918> Thanks again! @ubottu
[10:30] <BluesKaj> mauboyyu is a bot, viewer|43918
[10:31] <BluesKaj> ubottu
[10:32] <viewer|43918> really @BluesKaj? LOLZ! Thanks! And thank you anyway @ubottu!
[10:33] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, can you you clarify , your hotspot works but regular wifi doesn't , correct?
[10:35] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: yes, My mobile hotsport works fine. When connecting to a PEAP WPA2 with MSCHAPv2 wifi network I have the before mentioned error
[10:44] <floriano> ciao
[10:44] <Maxiride> ciao floriano
[10:47] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, I don't have a workaround atm, unless you have access to WEP/WPA  protocol for wifi, that should work
[10:48] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: what do you mean by having access to the wep\wpa protocol?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, normal wifi protocol on laptops for example .. I have noexperience with PEAP WPA2 with MSCHAPv2 wifi networks
[10:51] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: ok, thanks anyway =)
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, are you at work or home?
[10:53] <BluesKaj> just curious about that wifi protocol you use
[10:53] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: at work in the university
[10:54] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: it should be a 802.1x wifi network
[10:55] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: more info here if you want http://icts.unitn.it/en/unitn-x-wireless-network or let me know your questions
[10:56] <BluesKaj> yes, most are, but that PEAP WPA2 with MSCHAPv2 wifi network sounds like a WAN with a more secure/complicated setup than I'm used to.
[10:57] <hateball> Maxiride: fwiw, we run the same setup here at work and it "just works"
[10:57] <hateball> So I am guessing it's a bug that doesnt affect everyone using 802.1x and mschapv2
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, so it's the authentication that is different ..
[10:58] <hateball> Maxiride: Do you see any errors in dmesg?
[10:59] <hateball> Whenever I've had troubles with this it's always been shoddy firmware/drivers, but they at least tend to spit out something
[10:59] <Maxiride> hateball: no I didn't checked dmesg
[10:59] <Maxiride> and by the way, how do I do it?
[10:59] <hateball> BluesKaj: yeah it's normally used in large deployments, so you use your personal user account rather than a pre-shared key
[11:00] <hateball> Maxiride: oh, just run "dmesg" in a terminal
[11:00] <hateball> Maxiride: altho now with systemd, it may hide things. So run "journalctl -b" also
[11:00] <Maxiride> hateball: woah, hundreds of lines xD
[11:00] <hateball> well, not hide... just... not have things written to it
[11:01] <hateball> Maxiride: Well yes, you'll want to try and auth to wifi, then check dmesg after that
[11:03] <Maxiride> uploading the outputs
[11:07] <Maxiride> Here is the dmesg https://paste.kde.org/p9xdd5gig
[11:09] <Maxiride> and the journalctl -b paste gave me a 500 error on paste kde xD
[11:10] <Maxiride> should be this one https://paste.kde.org/p3eoveyfy
[11:15] <hateball> Maxiride: is it 2.4ghz or 5ghz ?
[11:18] <hateball> heh
[11:19] <haakonn> hi, after upgrading to xenial, plasmashell takes up 100% cpu all the time. known problem?
[11:19] <BluesKaj> hateball, which do you use ? I use both 2.4 and 5 concurrently
[11:19] <hateball> BluesKaj: I use both. It's just that some chipsets have issues with 5ghz
[11:20] <hateball> So for troubleshooting one can force to use 2.4ghz only
[11:20] <Ccdc_DuckZ> hello, what packages do I need to write and run ruby kde plasmoids in ubuntu? I've installed korundum4 as explained here https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma4/Ruby/GettingStarted but I still can't run the sample script from that page, I get a window with a message "Could not create a ruby-script Script Engine for the DeskLight widget"
[11:46] <six86> Played aroudn with the compositor settings, so far nothing helped
[11:59] <six86> diasbling compositing also doesn't help
[12:11] <ChrisNL> Hello Friends! I am looking for some documentation on editing some files in the plasma configuration. Mainly some documentation about the JavaScript files would be very much appreciated! [Trying to edit /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js]
[12:12] <ChrisNL> The only thing I managed to find is the userbase article about 'KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting'. But it leaves out to much about the seemingly global variables.
[12:25] <Specialist> Hi! Is there really no upgrade path from Kubuntu 14.04 to 16.04? update-manager only offers to upgrade to 15.10...
[12:27] <acheron88> I seems to recall that upgrade via update manager will not be offered until xenial hits it first point release at 16.04.1?
[12:27] <ChrisNL> The point release is more stable ...
[12:27] <Specialist> are there upgrade alternatives that allow me to skip 15.10?
[12:28] <hateball> No
[12:28] <hateball> Specialist: At your own peril you can upgrade to 16.04 using do-release-upgrade -d, but really you are better off waiting for the point release
[12:29] <Specialist> hm, ok. is there an eta for 16.04.1? upgrading now would fit in quite nicely from my schedule, but if there's no option i'll have to live with it ;-)
[12:31] <acheron88> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2016/04/21/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-released/
[12:31] <Specialist> thx!
[12:31] <acheron88> "Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st. "
[13:50] <madwizard> Is there a way to force Driver Manager to finally collect data on my system?
[13:51] <madwizard> I have Xenial kubuntu fresh install since Monday and each time I open Driver Manager, it says it collects infirmation about syste,
[13:53] <soee_> madwizard: it is broken
[13:53] <soee_> what driver you want to install?
[13:53] <hateball> madwizard: You can use ubuntu-drivers from the cli
[13:53] <soee_> CPU microcode and GPU ?
[13:55] <madwizard> nvidia proprietary drivers
[13:55] <madwizard> I installed via apt-get, but system seems unable to locate the module
[13:57] <madwizard> there's no nvidia module, just nvidia_361
[13:57] <madwizard> Also, I'm not sure this is proper version
[13:58] <hateball> madwizard: what GPU chipset do you have?
[13:58] <hateball> nvidia-361 is the latest included driver in 16.04, so that's quite alright
[13:59] <madwizard> 08:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)
[13:59] <madwizard> It's notebook
[13:59] <madwizard> Used to work a-okay with Xenial-beta
[13:59] <user|54394> Just a quick question -- how might I upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04? Or is a clean install recommended?
[14:00] <user|54394> nevermind, I think I found an answer
[14:00] <user|54394> sorry, premature
[14:01] <hateball> madwizard: I don't recall in which versions there were issues with hybrid gpus, but I *think* they are fixed in the latest beta 364
[14:01] <madwizard> Hm
[14:01] <hateball> madwizard: but you'll need to use this unsupported !ppa for that https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:01] <BluesKaj> sudo do-release-upgrade, user|54394
[14:02] <user|54394> It says no new release found
[14:02] <user|54394> but I'm definitely running 15.10
[14:02] <BluesKaj> user|54394, but update and upgrade your packages on 15.10 first
[14:03] <user|54394> I already did that
[14:03] <user|54394> and restarted
[14:03] <user|54394> lsb_release -a shows I'm running 15.10
[14:03] <BluesKaj> make sure your update manager isn't set to no new release
[14:03] <user|54394> I did
[14:04] <user|54394> Muon also shows "no update available"
[14:04] <user|54394> I do get this message when I run "apt-get update":
[14:04] <user|54394> W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
[14:04] <user|54394> 1397BC53640DB551
[14:05] <BluesKaj> you have appa blocking it
[14:10] <user|54394> alright I removed all my ppas, but same result
[14:12] <BluesKaj> user|54394, pastebin your sources.list
[14:13] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[14:14] <user|54394> I think I'm just going to do a clean install
[14:14] <user|54394> something seems broken
[14:15] <user|54394> but here it is:
[14:15] <user|54394> http://pastebin.com/2nNSLPw0
[14:17] <rodolfojcj> hello everybody
[14:18] <rodolfojcj> last week I upgraded from Kubuntu 15.10 to Kubuntu 16.04. Overall it's working fine and I like the improvements, thanks to the community for all of that!
[14:20] <BluesKaj> user|54394, nothing wrong there ...strange , but i would recheck the update manager agfain just to make sure, otherwise I'm stumped
[14:20] <rodolfojcj> now I would like to get these working: a) enable/have suspend menu option in K Menu, b) enable/have suspend and hibernate buttons in the login screen, c) enable/have telepathy-salut protocol enable to chat with other users in a LAN environment
[14:21] <rodolfojcj> do you have any clues about get those 3 points working??
[14:24] <BluesKaj> rodolfojcj, my first question is always have  you updated and full-upgraded since your install?
[14:25] <ChrisNL> @rodolfojcj: b) enable/have suspend and hibernate buttons in the login screen: this you will likely need to configure in the sddm theme of your choice. See: /usr/share/sddm/themes/
[14:26] <rodolfojcj> @BluesKaj, I did one, but I will execute another one just to check again
[14:28] <rodolfojcj> In /usr/share/sddm/themes/ there's only the "breeze" theme. That configuration would be editing .conf and/or .qml files, right?
[14:29] <madwizard> Is there a way to download .iso of Xenial beta, still?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> madwizard, why?
[14:40] <madwizard> BluesKaj: Not sure what changed, but I had Kubuntu Beta2 install working fine with proprietary nvidia drivers
[14:41] <madwizard> Also, Beta 2 had working VPN import, while release throws error
[14:42] <madwizard> BluesKaj: I'd like to verify it's reproducible
[14:46] <BluesKaj> madwizard, looked for beta 2 but no luck the links to it have all been updated to the offoical release
[14:47] <madwizard> Okay, thank you
[14:47] <madwizard> Had the same results
[14:49] <BluesKaj> madwizard, I'm testing Yakkety 16.10 already and it's running great so, and no vpn troubles
[14:49] <BluesKaj> madwizard, , which nvidia gpu ?
[14:50] <madwizard> 08:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)
[14:50] <BluesKaj> optimus ?
[14:50] <madwizard> Okay, ubuntu-drivers autoinstall resulted in nvidia-361 and blank screen
[14:50] <madwizard> BluesKaj: No, don't think so
[14:50] <madwizard> sddm is up
[14:51] <madwizard> Xorg process is up
[14:51] <madwizard> Back to nouveau at the moment
[14:51] <madwizard> I'll try to play around during weekend
[14:51] <madwizard> Thank you all, guys, for you help
[14:52] <BluesKaj> madwizard, try the 358 driver
[14:53] <madwizard> Not in my list, probably need from a ppa?
[14:53] <madwizard> The one that hateball pasted?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> shouldn't no , just install nvidia-358
[14:54] <BluesKaj> no ppa
[14:54] <madwizard> No package
[14:54] <BluesKaj> it's a slight regression
[14:54] <BluesKaj> bummer
[15:06] <ChrisNL> Anyone any idea how to add widgets/plasmoids for ALL users?
[15:16] <Zren> ChrisNL: Probably copy the plasmoid in ~/.local/share/plasmoids to /usr/share/plasmoids
[15:17] <Zren> */usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/
[15:17] <Zren> There's probably not a ui for it
[15:25] <ChrisNL> Zren: this folder does not seem to exist on my 16.04 Beta2 VM.
[15:26] <ChrisNL> And any non-ui option is very much appreciated =D. I even looked into editing layout.js files.
[15:26] <Zren> https://i.imgur.com/uKcc4fs.png
[15:26] <Zren> ~/.local/share/plasma/plasmoids *
[15:29] <ChrisNL> I have a folderview plasmoid added but only have an 'org.kde.resourcesMonitor' dir under ~/.local/share/plasma/plasmoids. Are you running the latest version by chance?
[15:29] <ChrisNL> (Running plasma 5.5.4).
[15:31] <viewer|28700> hi
[15:32] <viewer|28700> i just want to ask how to upgrade KDE Plasma to 5.6.3 thx
[15:32] <Zren> ChrisNL: The ones in the home directory are the ones you install from the internet
[15:33] <Zren> The ones in /usr/share are the preinstalled ones (and probably ones installed from apt get)
[15:33] <viewer|28700> ok this is my biggest problem as always when kde plasma is realase
[15:34] <viewer|28700> how to do it
[15:34] <ChrisNL> Ah right. I see.
[15:34] <ChrisNL> Sorry. My bad. What I meant is not installing but configuring a widget to be on the desktop of all users.
[15:34] <Zren> ah
[15:34] <Zren> Hmmm.
[15:34] <ChrisNL> Installing is the easy part =P
[15:35] <Zren> I guess you could copy ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
[15:35] <viewer|28700> but how
[15:35] <Zren> but that's the config data for _all_ config stuff
[15:36] <Zren> all _widget_ config stuff
[15:37] <viewer|28700> ok ok how to upgrade kde 5.5 to kde 5.6.3
[15:37] <ChrisNL> The plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc seems to be generated at the plasma init.
[15:37] <ChrisNL> The exact script that does this is: /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js
[15:38] <ChrisNL> If you edit this you can get widgets automagically added for all users. But it's preeeeety ugly and there is nearly zero documenation.
[15:38] <acheron88> viewer|28700: 5.6 isn't packaged for kubuntu yet.
[15:40] <viewer|28700> hmmm how do you now?
[15:40] <viewer|28700> How do you know when it will be available
[15:40] <yotux> Install quesiton in regards to LVM
[15:41] <yotux> Does 16.04 require a seperate /boot
[15:42] <acheron88> viewer|28700: Normally announced on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/
[15:42] <BluesKaj> !lvm
[15:43] <BluesKaj> yotux,^
[15:43] <yotux> thanks
[15:43] <yotux> reading now....
[16:10] <yotux> So I did some reading on the referenced artciles and most of the data is 4 years old on LVM
[16:10] <yotux> I created a seperate boot not sure if this is still needed, but it this still okay?
[16:10] <madwizard> yotux: Its how installer does it
[16:11] <madwizard> Separate boot partition, the rest on lvm
[16:11] <madwizard> If yoy choose lvm root of courde
[16:11] <madwizard> Sorry for typos
[16:12] <yotux> No worries I install a couple of VM's and was running out of space so LVM seemed like a better idea
[16:13] <yotux> madwizard: thank you for your input found some sites stated grub2 can work with LVM root at boot
[16:14] <ascii-soup> hi - i've just built konsole from source (on ubuntu 15.10) and changed the 'margin' that gets set - this works in konsole itself, but doesn't seem to be getting picked up in the konsole_part that (I assume) gets used by Kate + Yakuake
[16:14] <ascii-soup>  pretty much did a cmake/make/make install, but I'm wondering if I need to do anything else in order to get Kate + Yakuake to use the kpart from my newly built version?
[16:54] <yotux> the new package manager Discover when searching for a package results page is blank
[17:02] <BluesKaj> yotux, install muon
[17:10] <yotux> BluesKaj:  thank you, thought it was strange it was not installed in 16.04
[17:50] <SergioEDuran1> Hello friends
[17:50] <SergioEDuran1> wich Qt note taking app do you recommend to me? some alternative to Evernote / OneNote?
[17:51] <SergioEDuran1> Klots was amazing but I do not see it on the repos long time ago
[17:55] <BluesKaj> SergioEDuran1, try noblenote
[18:23] <wxl> hey has klipper somehow been rolled into plasma-desktop in xenial?
[18:24] <wxl> that seems to be what's suggested at least
[18:29] <soee_> huh ?
[18:52] <SergioEDuran1> Blueskay thank you :)
[18:54] <viewer|78270> Hi, I wanted to upgrade to 16.04 LTS from 14.04 LTS, but I guess the packages are not yet available. Is there a plan/date when these become available
[18:57] <soee_> viewer|78270: i think you will be informed about update available when 16.04.1 is released
[18:57] <soee_> now you can manually upgrade
[18:58] <viewer|78270> Okay. When is 16.04.1 expected?
[18:59] <soee_> viewer|78270: i think ~ one month after 16.04 was released
[18:59] <soee_> !schedule xenial
[18:59] <soee_> !schedule
[19:00] <soee_> uh sorry: 14.04 LTS to LTS upgrades will be enabled with the 16.04.1 LTS point release, in approximately 3 months time.
[19:00] <soee_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_or_15.10
[19:05] <viewer|78270> Hmm, that's sad. I've been waiting sooo long, and now I've either to wait three more months or hassle with manual updates.
[19:06] <soee_> well you just have to run one command
[19:07] <viewer|78270> Anyway thanks for the info. Maybe I'll even try the one command update. Thanks again.
[19:07] <soee_> should work just fine, just run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:22] <vip> hi ho, do you have problems with (16.04) kmail2 and imap subscriptions? I cannot unsubscribe folders...
[20:36] <user|36899> Hello. I have just installed Kubuntu 16.04 (64 bits) in one of my machines in a partition in the HDD (have windows there too). However, after everything and initiating the installation, the computer freezes on a screen where it says the installation will finish soon, but never finishes. What should be done?
[21:28] <user|13371> just loaded 16.2 32bit and now im getting a grub rescure command ??
[21:29] <user|13371> help
[21:33] <user|13371> sorry 16.4
[21:39] <user|13371> on my older unit i now get grub error 21???
[21:42] <user|13371> great can anyone help
[22:42] <user|13371> i will try again  i have just installed 16.4  32bit on a system and cannot get past grub keep getting grub rescue PLEASE help
[22:52] <viewer|1315> hi
[22:57] <soee> hiho
[23:31] <Startrek852> Hello.
[23:33] <Startrek852> So, I have a question. How long would it take to move 48 GBs of data to an NTFS partition using mv?
[23:36] <genii> Startrek852: There is not a good answer, unfortunately. Much depends on the speeds of the devices where the data currently is, where it's going, bus speed, controller speed, etc. Too many variables. The best way is try to move something like maybe a gig in size, note how long then multiply by 48
[23:37] <Startrek852> OK, I'll try that. Would mv be the fastest or is there anything faster?
[23:37] <Startrek852> I'm using 15.10
[23:40] <genii> no, mv is fastest. You could do something like: date +%s && mv /whatever /wherever && date +%s   ...then subtract the first number from the second number and you have how long in seconds it took
[23:42] <Startrek852> genii: or just use time
[23:42] <genii> Startrek852: Keep in mind also, if these are linux files currently on a filesystem like ext which uses permissions, rwx and so on, those will not be retained on NTFS
[23:42] <Startrek852> OK.
[23:43] <Startrek852> So should I make an ext4 partition for these files?
[23:43] <genii> Yes, the command "time" also works
[23:43] <Startrek852> And would schedtool help mv at all?
[23:44] <genii> Startrek852: Yes, ext2/3/4 is best if you need to keep executable bits, permissions, etc
[23:45] <genii> Startrek852: I'm not familiar with schedtool, so I don't know :)
[23:45] <Startrek852> genii: thanks.
[23:45] <Startrek852> Anyone here familiar with schedtool?