[00:24] <Marc-An> I have this error when using do-update-manager
[00:24] <Marc-An> The required dependency 'apt (>= 1.0.10.2ubuntu2)' is not installed.
[00:24] <Marc-An> anyone else has this happening ?
[12:31] <rbasak> bdmurray: I've written a bunch of bugpatterns and tested them carefully with test-local. AFAICT they match only what they're supposed to match, don't accidentally match everything, etc. Are you happy for me to just push or should I request a review first?
[12:32] <rbasak> (these are for mysql-5.7 in Xenial - a bunch of people are reporting upgrade issues so I want to save myself having to wade through all the bugs)
[13:42]  * rbasak JFDI
[17:25] <hggdh> grep teo
[20:28] <teward> i need a second set of eyes - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1576329 - can't find any usable debug data here, as nginx is 'running'
[20:28] <teward> so...
[20:29] <teward> if anyone wants to poke it and suggest if I'm missing something, feel free.
[21:39] <hggdh> teward: actually, the DpkgTerminalLog shows nginx being installed and failing to start
[21:40] <teward> hggdh: check the journalctl output and the systemctl output
[21:40] <teward> it's 'running'
[21:40] <hggdh> yes
[21:40] <hggdh> but there *was* a failure
[21:40] <teward> hggdh: a nondeterministic one
[21:40] <hggdh> I wonder what apt-get -f install would do
[21:42] <hggdh> teward: to boot you have an apport failure there :-)
[21:42] <hggdh> (which has nothing to do with nginx, but might have contributed to some missing logs, perhaps?)
[21:43] <teward> E: Broken VPN Pipe = Broken
[21:43] <teward> hggdh: my apport hooks ran
[21:43] <teward> which pull in the error logs that the dpkg fail suggests
[21:43] <teward> that apport hook as been there since Vivid
[21:43] <teward> and it did run
[21:43] <teward> so...
[21:43] <teward> if something's missing from the main apport runs, that's outside my control - hence the 'Incomplete' status
[21:43] <teward> and I think pitti needs to retool apport given this, anything that uses any extra characters outside of pure ascii has broken
[21:43] <teward> (Russian, German, Spanish, etc.)
[21:43] <hggdh> teward: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/256929148/HookError_ubuntu.txt
[21:44] <teward> hggdh: yes, I know
[21:44] <teward> as i said
[21:44] <hggdh> oh
[21:44] <hggdh> now I read your entries
[21:44] <teward> hggdh: /usr/share/apport/general-hooks/ubuntu.py
[21:44] <teward> ^ that's 'apport' general
[21:44] <teward> which is I think pitti's realm
[21:44] <teward> hggdh: to be honest, though, it got everything except maybe some syslog data
[21:45] <hggdh> indeed. I just wonder about what might have been missed
[21:45] <teward> before my apport hooks, there was *nothing* to debug since the systemd transition
[21:45] <teward> because Debian upstream coded their thing to just absorb error codes
[21:45] <teward> I had to hack my way in the init scripts to make things work :/
[21:45] <teward> (to get error output)
[21:45] <hggdh> also, this OP is probably running with -proposed
[21:46] <teward> hggdh: how so?
[21:46] <teward> (1.10.0-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 is in -updates)
[21:47] <hggdh> the dpkg log shows kernel 4.4.0-22 being installed, and this one is still in tests
[21:48] <hggdh> 4.4.0-21 is still the official kernel for xenial
[21:53] <hggdh> teward: I also wonder what 'dpkg -l nginx\*' would show as the current status for the packages
[21:55] <hggdh> teward: but, so far, I agree with you that this sounds like cosmic rays
[22:07] <teward> hggdh: i see at least one 'cosmic rays' like one every version
[22:07] <teward> some are because Russian fubars the apport hooks
[22:07] <teward> and they get back info indicating that it's 'cause somehting is bound to port 80 already
[22:07] <teward> others are just broken configs
[22:08] <teward> some are just oddball setups
[22:10] <hggdh> aye
[22:11] <teward> hggdh: i'm just glad I was able to get help to set up dupe detection filters - i haven't seen a Port 80 bind failure since we added a duplicate detection filter heh
[22:26] <teward> hggdh: if you'd like to request more information from the user, by the way, feel free
[22:26] <teward> i came here to get general triage assist 'cause i thought I was just losing my mind with no data there
[23:15] <pyrite> Could someone add a Xenial task for https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-software/+bug/1573408 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1559284
[23:16] <pyrite> The fixes are in -proposed and there is a lot of interest in them, so it would be good to be able to track them properly.
[23:48] <hggdh> teward: will do