[02:52] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:52] <daftykins> harro \o
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[02:53] <daftykins> much on the cards today for you?
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> in few hours we going to the sauna
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> with arranged breakfast
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> then in the afternoon ill be on irc
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: you got plans?
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/entroware-s-orion-laptops-now-ship-with-ubuntu-mate-16-04-lts-and-skylake-cpus-503499.shtml
[02:56] <daftykins> :D sounds good, not been to a sauna
[02:56] <daftykins> nah not really any work on right now, waiting for this client to be back in-island to finish setting up her new email setup
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: are those still job you got through your uncle's business?
[02:57] <daftykins> nah everything is freelance
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> great
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/franz-messaging-app-linux-slack-whatsapp-telegram
[03:13] <daftykins> hmm
[03:13] <daftykins> WhatsApp touts encryption these days, but makes me wonder about the security from PC to phone
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[03:14] <daftykins> i've never tried it, if i'm honest
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> millions of users use it...
[03:15] <daftykins> amusingly before the encryption thing, i was planning on ARP spoofing my phone to see whether the traffic were in plaintext
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> there was an article of a hacker explaining sniff out phone traafic recently right
[03:18] <daftykins> hmm not sure i saw that one
[03:18] <daftykins> but that's mobile network traffic you mean?
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> well phreaking has been there for ages :p
[03:19] <daftykins> :D
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-605672866
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> mac style :p
[03:42] <daftykins> erk!
[03:43] <daftykins> problem with deviantart is there seems to always be a pervy image one click away
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: you can block adult content at the top :p
[03:43] <daftykins> ah well i clear my browser cache religiously, so that'd require cookies i guess
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> :p
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> anyone know where to find a business that makes a logo + wallpaper + phone wall all the same?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> i find many logo companys, but always lack wallpapers
[03:47] <daftykins> hmm my mate told me about some kind of website where you put up a request and people bid to do it, winner (you choose) taking the money you offer
[03:47] <daftykins> they did it for his girlfriends new business
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> ah
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> interesting
[03:48] <daftykins> i think they presented the idea of their business and then had a whole brand made up by several folks
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> nice
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> well i already know business name and quote and picture
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> but need a company making it all-in-one
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> business cards, usb sticks etc
[03:55] <daftykins> :D
[03:55] <daftykins> hrmm they got some pens made with their logo, i could ask - can't be too useless location wise since you're not far from me :)
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> ill try some local shops
[04:01] <daftykins> hmm Cisco has found a bunch of NTP daemon bugs
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> oO
[04:29] <HickorySmokedBac> How is the gaming scene coming along with Steam and Ubuntu?  Are there still a lot of games that are Windows only ?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> HickorySmokedBac: steam performs well on good hardware
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> HickorySmokedBac: but linux users still low count on gaming
[04:30] <HickorySmokedBac> lotuspsychje: Are we talking about i5 + 950+ things ?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> HickorySmokedBac: depends what your game is of course
[04:30] <daftykins> all you have to do is browse the Steam website to find out what's Linux and what isn't
[04:30] <HickorySmokedBac> lotuspsychje: Borderlands 1/2/pre , Fallout 4
[04:30] <HickorySmokedBac> GTAV..
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> i dont think gta5 can be played on linux
[04:31] <daftykins> yeah those are less likely
[04:31] <HickorySmokedBac> Going to get Mafia 3 later..
[04:31] <HickorySmokedBac> ah
[04:31]  * HickorySmokedBac sighs
[04:31] <daftykins> if you want triple A titles like that, Linux is a mistake
[04:31] <HickorySmokedBac> I guess I better upgrade to 10 then
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> HickorySmokedBac: the real high end gaming is not for linux yet
[04:31] <HickorySmokedBac> Before the free time to do it is up
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> HickorySmokedBac: check the steam database as daftykins suggests
[04:32] <HickorySmokedBac> I don't want to end up with some hardware still working in 4 years and the OS craped out
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> HickorySmokedBac: alot of linux titles out there to play
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> for reasonable prices
[04:32] <daftykins> all you have to do is install it and enter your 7 or 8 key (you don't have to be using it)
[04:33] <daftykins> then you're upgraded and can use 10 anytime
[04:33] <HickorySmokedBac> daftykins: The problem is the ISP rules .
[04:33] <daftykins> how so?
[04:33] <HickorySmokedBac> daftykins: Sat ISP rules are 15 GBs besides 12-5 AM.
[04:33] <daftykins> ask a friend to snag it and throw it on DVD for you
[04:33] <HickorySmokedBac> 12-5 AM is unmetered bandwidth (doesn't count)
[04:33] <HickorySmokedBac> daftykins: I was talking about the updates
[04:33] <daftykins> ah or just leave a download going at midnight then
[04:33] <HickorySmokedBac> I can't just have them willy nilly downloading
[04:33] <daftykins> no you just set it to a metered connection
[04:33] <HickorySmokedBac> which 10 Home does
[04:34] <daftykins> simples.
[04:34] <daftykins> no it doesn't
[04:34] <HickorySmokedBac> daftykins: You can't set wired to metered
[04:34] <daftykins> hmm not on a wired box right now so can't confirm that
[04:35] <daftykins> updates aren't big though so i don't see that being much of a problem
[04:35] <HickorySmokedBac> daftykins: ViaSat-2 is supposed to be up soon.. if SpaceX doesn't blow it up
[04:35] <HickorySmokedBac> And we're supposed to have better rules then
[04:36] <HickorySmokedBac> (With more bandwidth)
[04:36] <HickorySmokedBac> but I aint banking on it
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> welcome drama
[04:38] <drama> hi
[04:40] <daftykins> hrmm
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> morning baizon
[04:43] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[04:47] <HickorySmokedBac> daftykins: I might try this in a virtual machine tonight http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/35656-ethernet-connection-set-metered-unmetered-windows-10-a.html
[04:47] <HickorySmokedBac> Seems to be an easy registry 'hack'
[04:49] <daftykins> mmhmm
[04:49] <daftykins> obviously don't feed a VM your windows key ;) don't need to enter one at all to install
[04:49] <HickorySmokedBac> yeah, I just skipped it
[04:50] <HickorySmokedBac> It probably wont last many days though
[04:50] <HickorySmokedBac> (without starting to complain about needing to register)
[04:51] <daftykins> sure it will
[04:57] <HickorySmokedBac> Close enough to Midnight.. might as well see
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> glooby: morning
[05:16] <glooby> hey
[05:40] <lotuspsychje_> bbl guys have a nice day
[10:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:27] <daftykins> o/
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> re
[11:57] <daftykins> load
[11:57] <daftykins> ;D
[11:57]  * lotuspsychje presses play on tape
[11:58] <daftykins> hehe
[11:59]  * OerHeks presses money on the printer
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNfsY4CnJzA
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: my bank acount is: 127.0.0.1
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> hi pauljw
[12:04] <pauljw> hey lotuspsychje
[12:04] <pauljw> everyone  :)
[12:11] <BluesKaj> bummer. just discovered the laptop doesn't support 5ghz wifi, our neighbourhood wifi is becoming crowded.. 11 possible connections listed in nm...switched to ch 10 instead of the default ch 6 , maybe that will give me fewer dropouts
[12:11] <daftykins> sir \o
[12:12] <daftykins> BluesKaj: only channels 1, 6 and 11 are non overlapping in the 2.4GHz ISM band... you can region hack and use 13, but yeah you might have to just stump up for a dual-band card
[12:12] <daftykins> i looked into it for my last laptop, saw cheap intel 6000 series n and ac cards for <£20
[12:14] <BluesKaj> ok , ch 11 seems like a good choice in the meantime
[12:18] <daftykins> :D
[12:18] <daftykins> i've been in the same boat of late, got my first dual band router when my ISP gave out free newer ones
[12:25] <BluesKaj> my new router is both 2.4 and 5ghz, but the laptop was purchased when I had an isp provided router which was 2.4 only so never botherd to check the laptop's wifi capabilities
[12:26] <daftykins> mmm much the same thoughts here
[12:26] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jg991wtrfg7f2fn/IMG_20160304_104010.jpg?dl=0
[12:27] <daftykins> new laptop came with -ac and dualband so it can push the above :O
[12:42] <OerHeks> yay, 150,1 Gb uploaded \o/
[12:42] <OerHeks> The first 2 days went fast, 50 gb/day
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> oO
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> hey de-facto
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> afternoon
[12:46] <pauljw> OerHeks, that's more than twice my monthly bandwidth cap... :(
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:47]  * lotuspsychje hates caps
[12:47] <pauljw> me too
[12:47] <OerHeks> My ISP starts mailing me when i exceed 1 Tb, FUP
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> lolll
[12:47] <de-facto> greetz guys :)
[12:48] <OerHeks> So i can do radio/tv
[12:48] <OerHeks> hi de-facto
[12:48]  * lotuspsychje sneezes his nose with 1TB
[12:48]  * OerHeks runs for the gateway
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> haha
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> all the irc bandwith we spending :p
[12:50] <pauljw> hi de-facto
[12:52] <pauljw> that's nice OerHeks, i'm on hughesnet and have 60G of which only 10G is anytime with the other 50G for 2-8am use.  we burn thru 10G pretty fast if we're not careful.  so i'm up early to get all updates done prior to 8am.
[12:54] <OerHeks> ah, HughesNet Gen4 satellite internet
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: al you need is one iso 16.04 :p
[12:54] <pauljw> true :D
[12:56] <pauljw> my daughter is of course always messing with videos, but she's getting the idea that she needs to do so in the early mornning too.
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> =p
[12:58] <pauljw> prior to hughenet, the three of us shared a dial-up connection, so bandwidth discipline is ingrained in all of us.
[13:02] <de-facto> out of interesst, how big are ping times over such a satellite connection?
[13:04] <pauljw> de-facto, don't know, let me see.
[13:06] <pauljw> 11 packets transmitted, 10 received, 9% packet loss, time 10009ms; rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 625.188/928.682/1661.651/378.042 ms, pipe 2
[13:07] <pauljw> this is reduced speed as we're long past anytime cap.
[13:07] <de-facto> yeah that makes sence since the distances are so far
[13:08] <OerHeks> that gnome-softwarecenter is a major bug, for this LTS release :-(
[13:08] <OerHeks> worse than ugly, bad
[13:08] <de-facto> yeah
[13:08] <OerHeks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-deb-software-install-error
[13:08] <pauljw> seems to be, first thing i did was use it to install synaptic
[13:10] <de-facto> i still prefer the old way, synaptic and gdebi, apart from them just working fine they also provide a nice interface with a lot of usefull info (like files, dependencies, linter in gdebi and such)
[13:12] <pauljw> :)
[13:14] <OerHeks> ubuntu studio amd64 (ratio 13.2) xubuntu i386 (ratio 9.5) ubuntu-studio i386  (ratio 8.8) ubuntu-gnome amd64 (ratio 8.0)
[13:48] <chrs_> hi is there a channel to discuss the ubuntu userland system on windows 10 "developer"
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> !ubuwin | chrs_
[14:28] <OerHeks> oh nice factoid, i was about to suggest to find kirkland (dustin)
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:28] <OerHeks> now wubi must die!
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> after precise?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> hi frostie
[14:41] <frostie> hi
[14:57]  * lotuspsychje is listening @ http://mixing.dj/2016/livesets/adam-beyer-drumcode-289-live-the-social-uk-13-02-2016/
[15:12] <frostie> i was thinking if  would be possible to add move the  minimize maximize close buttons to the right again in Ubuntu?
[15:13] <OerHeks> frostie, no, that used to be possible, as of 15.04 no longer possible AFAIK
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> frostie: for ubuntu questions you can use #ubuntu
[15:14] <OerHeks> err as of 14.04 ..
[15:15] <frostie> i dont think that worked in 14.04 either...  have to go back as far as 12.04 if i remember it right
[15:15] <OerHeks> jups
[15:15] <OerHeks> The unity-tweak tool had that option in 14.04, but not working at all
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> afternoon baizon
[15:19] <baizon> hi hi lotuspsychje
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> baizon: have an after-work beer :p
[15:19] <baizon> nooo
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> wine?
[15:20] <baizon> noooo
[15:20] <baizon> pepsi
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[15:20] <baizon> ;)
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> ok, im having a fristi with a straw
[15:20] <baizon> ice cold pepsi :)
[15:20] <frostie> pepsi is the best
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> baizon: crowdy support atm, you might wanna jump in :p
[15:21] <frostie> coca cola isnt good anymore
[15:21] <baizon> it never was :D
[15:21] <OerHeks> coca cola and pepsi ruin the taste of bacardi rum
[15:21] <OerHeks> :-D
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:21] <DArqueBishop> No Virgin Cola?
[15:22] <frostie> well i dont drink alcohol at all
[15:22]  * lotuspsychje looks in the mirror..no no virgin
[15:22] <OerHeks> I usually buy homebrand cola, 25 ct/can
[15:22] <DArqueBishop> lotuspsychje: it's an actual cola that Virgin (the megacorp) makes.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> DArqueBishop: i know :p
[15:23] <DArqueBishop> lotuspsychje: heh, sorry. It's unheard of here in Redneckistan.
[15:23] <frostie> finally the software center was replaced in 16.04
[15:23] <baizon> a relaxing cat ... https://i.imgur.com/mYXJCZk.gifv
[15:24] <frostie> has anyone try to install from it yet?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> baizon: is that you?
[15:24] <OerHeks> That is how my chihuahua sits with me after diner too :-D
[15:24] <baizon> lotuspsychje: nope
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[15:24] <OerHeks> belly-up
[15:28] <frostie> whats with ubuntu offtopic channel? says i cant join must register...
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> !register
[15:40] <chrs_> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> hi moonwolf
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> bye
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> anyone took a screenshot on 16.04 (unity) yet?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> screenshot is so fast, takes the window from screenshot app itself also
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> can someone reproduce that?
[17:19] <TJ-> how did you cause it? pressing PrtScrn makes it record the screen, but if I press it again with the snapshot dialog showing it captures that dialog too
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> prtscr makes it right yes
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> but with the app, it snaps the app itself
[17:20] <de-facto> works just fine on ubuntu gnome though
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: bug?
[17:20] <TJ-> if I start 'screenshot' and take the entire screen it doesn't capture the dialog
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> lemme try
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> i got the dialog
[17:22] <TJ-> may be a display-driver issue
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/28/windows_10_live_tv/
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1573910
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> perhaps related?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> and another one
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1574398
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> wb
[19:12] <BluesKaj> thanks
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: your on hexchat?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> konversation
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> ok
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> having this weird bug lol
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> using gnome-screenshot it grabs also the dialog box, but only on hexchat lol
[19:14] <BluesKaj> hexchat is a good client tho , it's my 2nd choice if I konversation screws up
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> but i bet kde doesnt have gnome-screenshot either?
[19:15] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: many of those screenshot issues are going to be due the way the GPU-driver and the opengl layers work. to generate a screen shot you can't simply copy the framebuffer like in the goold old days, now, you've got to re-render the display into a RAM buffer pretending to be the GPU display,
[19:15] <TJ-> ksnapshot in KDE
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but why only on hexchat?
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> screenshots on other parts doesnt do that
[19:16] <TJ-> hexchat? you mean you capture the gnome-screenshot Save dialog when it is rendered on top of the hexchat window?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, it's snapshot in kde
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> yep
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> holdon ill imgur
[19:18] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: well, that tells me that most likely hexchat isn't using openGL rendering - maybe uses SDL - and that causes problems trying to isolate 'layers'
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> http://imgur.com/I63N1T9
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: should i bug or ignore this?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> dialog boxes/context menus aren't picked up by snapshot either, it just won't copy the frame
[19:19] <TJ-> hexchat uses libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 so that'll make sense
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> thats a bug against hexchat then
[19:20] <TJ-> frames are composited by compiz/unity
[19:20] <TJ-> no, its the artifact of using pixbufs and compositing
[19:20] <TJ-> any appllication using pixbufs will likely have the same experience
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but lets say someone on xenial wants to grab a shot on hexchat
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> rather anoying right
[19:23] <BluesKaj> TJ-, suppose kwin has the same behaviour
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> !info kwin
[19:24] <TJ-> it's possible some if it is to do with the gtk3/gdk3 vs older gtk/gdk2 libraries
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> should i bug this or ask to reproduce first?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> no pixbuf dependency in kwin
[19:27] <TJ-> a bug can't hurt, but there are so many critical/high bugs across unity gnome I don't forsee much progress in 16.04; possibly 16.10. There doesn't seem to have been much backporting of fixes to earlier releases so far for desktop
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: against wich file should i bug
[19:28] <TJ-> the 2 programs that demonstrate the error; let the devs dig in, reproduce it, and figure out where the blame lies
[19:28] <TJ-> likely in some underlying libraries anyhow
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> can i ubuntu-bug hexchat gnome-screenshot togheter?
[19:29] <TJ-> I've never tried; don't think so though
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> nop :p
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> ill go for hex
[19:33] <TJ-> grrr, unity so annoys me. What daft bugger thought it a great idea for xfg-open somefile.desktop to open in a text editor!!!
[19:33] <TJ-> xdg-open, sorry
[19:34] <TJ-> and then system settings has no applet for changing it... i remember this from years ago, and its not been fixed!
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hexchat/+bug/1576385
[19:54] <satysin> hey!
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> howdy
[19:54] <satysin> New to Ubuntu
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> welcome to the community
[19:54] <satysin> got redirected here as apparently my new found love isnt really the right topic in #ubuntu :)
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> satysin: for discussion you can sit here
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> satysin: for ubuntu related questions: #ubuntu
[19:55] <satysin> so I can just chat about anything ubuntu related here?
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> yes
[19:55] <satysin> nice :)
[19:55] <satysin> do you mind screenshot sharing?
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> go ahead
[19:55] <satysin> http://i.imgur.com/8L7oL4K.png
[19:55] <satysin> what you think?
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> i love desktop shots
[19:56] <satysin> this is the first time in *years* I have a computer I feel is *mine*
[19:56] <satysin> never felt that with Windows
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> sweet
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> what theme is that
[19:56] <satysin> it isnt perfect but oh man it feels nice
[19:56] <satysin> arc
[19:56] <satysin> well a fork of arc actually
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> check mine
[19:57] <satysin> nice!
[19:58] <satysin> how you like the launcher on the bottom?
[19:58] <Armadillos> I need to find a good conky setup for my desktop
[19:58] <nicomachus> satysin: I like the GTK. kind of has that flat feel like Paper-GTK but a bit darker and more blues.
[19:58] <nicomachus> Armadillos: http://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn
[19:58] <satysin> nicomachus, yes it is a bit of a mix of flatabulous and paper
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> Armadillos: try deviantart, loads of stuff
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/customization/screenshots/nix/?order=5
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> latest linux screenshots
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> satysin: im one of the guys that wanted launcher at bottom from the start:p
[19:59] <satysin> heh
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> i was used to gnome dock at bottom
[20:00] <satysin> yeah for all the freedom of linux it sucked it took so damn long for that to happen
[20:00] <nicomachus> I like the side launcher.
[20:00] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:00] <nicomachus> https://i.imgur.com/3aFrpFZ.jpg
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: sweet
[20:00] <satysin> what cli irc client you use?
[20:01] <nicomachus> irssi
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> hexchat here
[20:01] <satysin> yeah I just use hexchat as I used that elsewhere
[20:01] <satysin> I want to find a nice PS1 now
[20:01] <nicomachus> just realized I didn't get the launcher in that shot: https://i.imgur.com/IyyvGgI.jpg
[20:02] <satysin> I would love a numix icon set that wasn't quite so muted
[20:02] <satysin> same style just with more vibrant colours
[20:02] <BluesKaj> irssi is good for emergencies when i can't get to the desktop, it's been valuable in the past
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah some nice rescue :p
[20:03] <nicomachus> I like it because I can script almost everything, then copy those scripts between machines and use irssi over SSH when needed.
[20:03] <satysin> anyone run Cinnamon on Ubuntu?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> not here
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> mint got latest one i think
[20:04] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, in th eold days when xorg.conf would muck up the gpu driver or some such
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah
[20:13] <BluesKaj> well, stuff to do and dinner soon...take care
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> another crowdy support today
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Ready for another good day .. Been good for you ? lotuspsychje
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> great here
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Good deal .. I get saddled up .. and - ride em cowboy ! - see if I can pick up where I left off early this AM .
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[20:22] <Bashing-om> looks like already, going to be a fun ride .
[20:23] <satysin> anyone here use wine?
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> not me
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys
[20:25] <satysin> night!
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> going to dreamscape
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Gonna go cut grass .. back in a spell .
[21:50] <nicomachus> !ltsupgrade
[21:51] <nicomachus> ugh, july
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Mission accomplished .. done what I had in mind ... Will pick the mowing back up tamale . Back to support .:)