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* slangasek waves15:00
* infinity grunts15:00
slangasekclose enough15:00
* barry coughs15:01
* pitti clears his throat15:01
slangasek#startmeeting15:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Apr 28 15:01:56 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:01
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slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:03
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)15:03
slangaseksil2100 xnox chiluk slangasek doko cyphermox pitti robru infinity caribou bdmurray tdaitx barry15:03
slangasekno sil2100 at the moment, so xnox ?15:03
slangasekhah, no, xnox is off today15:04
slangasekchiluk:15:04
chilukSorry I worked on no "user" issues this week resulted in valid public launchpad case work this week.15:04
chiluk-done-15:04
chilukit was a depressing week15:04
slangasekchiluk: do we need to send you more users that file valid bugs?15:05
pittiI think we have two left15:05
cyphermoxslangasek: I think chiluk is looking for stuff to do, he could do the debian-installer merge?15:05
pitti(per minute or so)15:05
chiluklol..15:05
slangasekheh15:05
cyphermox:)15:05
dokoflash-kernel is another good one15:06
slangasek * release week, congrats on 16.04!15:06
slangasek * tried to SRU a pre-dependency into sysv-rc for xenial to remove some conffile prompting, got LP: #1573240 for my trouble15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1573240 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "package initscripts 2.88dsf-59.2ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: pre-dependency problem - not installing initscripts" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157324015:06
slangasek * triaged some incoming reports of upgrade failures against shim-signed, so far none of them appear to be (fixable) bugs in the SecureBoot stack15:06
cyphermoxdoko: flash-kernel is next on my list.15:06
slangasek * merges for yakkety15:06
slangasek  * taking a few minutes every day to try to absorb the name 'yakkety'15:06
slangasek * sprint prep15:06
slangasekI'm TIL on flash-kernel, how is it on any of your lists? :)15:06
slangasek(done)15:06
cyphermoxslangasek: if you want to do it I won't complain :)15:07
doko- archive opening15:07
doko- icu, libpng, boost transitions15:07
doko- more transitions, ftbfs fixes, merges, ...15:07
doko- GCC 6.1 rc2 and GCC 6.1 release15:07
doko- openjdk-8 updates15:07
doko(done)15:07
cyphermox- console-setup merge15:07
cyphermox- trivial watchdog service fix (bug LP: #1559468)15:07
cyphermox- fix ltrace on ppc64el (bug LP: #1398143)15:07
cyphermox- debugging NM wifi issues15:07
cyphermox- fixing klibc ipconfig DHCPREQUEST calls (bug LP: #1327412)15:07
cyphermox- all the SRUs for Secure Boot15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1559468 in watchdog (Ubuntu Wily) "Missing single-quote in watchdog.service prevents service from working correctly" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155946815:07
cyphermox- porting mokutil and efivar to precise & trusty15:07
cyphermox(done)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1398143 in ltrace (Ubuntu Trusty) "Ltrace is broken on ppc64el" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139814315:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1327412 in klibc (Debian) "Delay during PXE Boot, IP-Config gives up" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132741215:07
pittiautopkgtest:15:08
pitti - Add option to set more appropriate parallel= build option in LXC (#1569750)15:08
pitti - Add workaround for broken PTMU in Canonical's network (#1572026)15:08
pitti - Make "git clone" more robust against temporary network glitches (#1571979)15:08
pitti - Automate setup of armf LXD test controller and slaves in Scalingstack; now running, but failing an awful lot due to kernel bug (#1531768)15:08
slangasekoh, forgot to list that I've also been working to clean up the 'unsubscribed' package list on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/m-r-package-team-mapping.html#unsubscribed by finding people to blame for these15:08
pitti - create watchdog for auto-hard-rebooting arm64 instances, as a bandaid for the above15:08
pitti - various bug fixes in adt-run15:08
pitti - Merge debci with upstream git15:08
pitti - Set up configs, cloud images, and LXC containers for yakkety, some more intense maintenance during the yakkety opening flood15:08
pittiFTBFS fixes: dict-moby-thesaurus, grep, libvigraimpex, mako, python-configglue, ros-robot-model, ubuntu-drivers-common15:08
pittiapport: Fix invalid key name generation in hookutils (#1566975)15:08
pittiapt: fix bad pre-depends handling, breaks upgrades a lot (#1560797)15:08
pitticasper: Suppress auto-activation of swap partitons in live session (#1552539)15:08
pittiubiquity: Fix ubiquity-dm startup failure (#1570901)15:08
pittijuju-core: Investigate test failure with mwhudson, propose fixes (#1571082)15:08
pittiDebug installer swap space creation failure, come up with bandaid in casper (#1552539)15:08
pittilxc: Debug autopkgtest failure and recommend simple fix (#1572188)15:08
pittilxd: Investigate/fix looping startup failure (#1569698)15:08
pittisystemd: Fix enabling of linked units (#1563590), fix lightdm flakiness in boot-smoke test (#1571673), fix wrong device naming with ibmveth (#1561096), fix USB network device names with randomized MACs (#1574483)15:08
pittiInvestigate ssh installation failure in QA desktop tests, fixed in UTAH now (#1554266)15:08
pittiReview proposed openssl FIPS change, landed right before Xenial release (#1553309)15:08
pittimerges: systemd, init-system-helpers, debhelper, gnome-color-manager15:08
pittiSet up apport retracers and ddebs for yakkety15:08
pittitons of bug triage from incoming bug flood after xenial release15:08
pitti~ end ~15:08
infinityrobru?15:09
pittiI'd say timeout and infinity goes on?15:11
slangasekoh yes, robru is out, sorry15:11
infinity - Released xenial15:11
infinity - Opened yakkety15:11
infinity - Lots of work related to opening yakkety (LP, chroots, snakefruit, etc)15:11
infinity - Start on yakkety merges15:11
infinity - Upgrade buildds to xenial final (s390x) and trusty+lts-xenial (ppc/arm64)15:11
infinity - Fix some FTBFS fallout from the -fPIE switch15:11
infinity - Upgrade-related SRU work for trusty->xenial15:12
infinity(done)15:12
slangasekcaribou:15:12
cariboushortr week (one day off) :15:12
caribouBugfix :15:12
caribou- multipath coredumps15:12
caribou- Hash mismatch issues with debian archives when using mirror:15:12
caribou- network kdump bugfix15:12
caribou(done)15:12
chilukpitti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtTC3pGBjs415:13
infinitypitti: Did you ever figure out how you accidentally deleted ddebs and get switched over to the new key?15:14
tdaitxbdmurray: is out as well... he sent his status to the ML15:14
tdaitx= Security update for OpenJDK 715:14
tdaitx* Compared my broken hotspot patch to IcedTea's working one to understand what I missed15:14
tdaitx* Packaged IcedTea 2.6.6, updating OpenJDK 7 to 7u101-2.6.6; had to disable arm32 jit as hotspot security update broke it15:14
tdaitx* Backported OpenJDK 7u101 from Wily to Trusty and Precise; provided the packages to the security team15:14
tdaitx* Investigated arm32 jit to understand why it broke and - hopefully - how to fix it; the hotspot security update introduced a new bytecode into the Bytecode enum, but the arm32 jit uses hardcoded bytecode values and addresses all over the place15:14
tdaitx= TCK15:14
tdaitx* Back to testing on Xenial; testing scripts on a clean environment (newly deployed lxc agents and hosts)15:14
tdaitx   - Kerberos setup was broken, fixed so it works on both Xenial and Trusty15:14
tdaitx   - Pulseaudio was not starting up; fixed that; unable to load/change modules; fixed15:14
tdaitx   - investigating why a bunch tests are now failing15:14
tdaitx* Once more going through TCK docs to ensure that both scripts and environment are in compliance with the requirements15:14
tdaitx* Tidying up JIT/configuration template15:14
pittiinfinity: yes I did, and that's fixed now15:14
tdaitx= Other15:14
tdaitx* Tried my hand again at backporting OpenJDK 9 HiDPI fix to OpenJDK 8, still not clear how to backport some changesets (LP: #1497816); kind of a personal issue to me as I have a HiDPI display15:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1497816 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "No support for HDPI/retina displays in Java 7/8" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149781615:14
tdaitx* Upgraded to Xenial; planning move to ZFS15:14
tdaitx* Getting used to loud noises after neighbors decided to renovate the whole apartment15:14
tdaitx* Went through a few bugs15:14
infinitypitti: \o/15:14
barrytdaitx: done?15:15
tdaitx(done)15:16
tdaitxsorry =)15:16
barryshaving the yak15:16
barrydirtbike 0.3-2; python-pip 8.1.1-2 (debian bug #821014 and debian bug #814292); debian bug #821223 (virtualenv _markerlib); debian bug #821442 (schroot broken);15:16
ubottuDebian bug 821014 in src:python-pip "Recent versions of setuptools no longer has or needs _markerlib" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/82101415:16
ubottuDebian bug 814292 in python-pip "Missing python-setuptools dependency" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/81429215:16
barryvarious other archivy things for 16.0415:16
ubottuDebian bug 821223 in virtualenv "Unable to create a virtualenv: invalid requirement: '_markerlib'" [Grave,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/82122315:16
ubottuDebian bug 821442 in src:linux "overlay fs: chmod fails (Operation not permitted) on chowned files" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/82144215:16
barrylots of playing (read: bug reports :) around w/juju 2 and charms; si-server charm15:16
barrypycon 2016 language summit planning15:16
barryLP: #1572416 verification-done15:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1572416 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Xenial) "do-release-upgrade crashes in Greek locale" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157241615:16
barrysyncpackage bzr-fastimport back into ubuntu15:16
barrydebian bug #822750 (unreproducible)15:16
ubottuDebian bug 822750 in python3-pip "python3-pip: Missing deps on packaging, distlib, ..." [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/82275015:16
barry--done--15:16
slangasekok, any questions?15:18
slangaseksounds like there aren't :)15:20
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:20
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekanything else today?15:20
slangasekanyone have topics for UOS that they need help getting scheduled?15:21
pittiI filed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-y-replace-upstart today15:21
slangasekor topics for next week's sprint that they need help getting scheduled? :)15:21
pittiapparently the first-ever blueprint for that uos15:21
slangasekhah15:21
slangasekpitti: you've invited appropriately desktoppy people to the session?15:21
pittislangasek: seb128 and xnox so far, I think I'll grab Laney too15:21
slangaseksounds good15:22
slangasekmaybe invite willcooke also?15:22
pittisure, I'll mark him as non-essential15:22
pitti(done)15:22
pittibut that's just boring tech debt, nothing new an exciting really15:23
infinityThat's pretty exciting, IMO.15:23
infinityGiven that upstart is actively bitrotting.15:23
* infinity glares at the build failures.15:24
pittianother topic that I have on the shelf somewhere is to enable DNSSEC early in the cycle and get some experience with it15:24
pitti(we'd disable it for the release as there's still some known-broken issues)15:24
slangasekDNSSEC by default?15:24
pittiinfinity: yeah, that's my main concern15:24
slangasekyes, we also have to get the phone off of upstart at some point15:24
pittiyes; there was some heavy work in resolvd recently to do that, and get along with the common quirks of routers, etc.15:24
slangasekdoesn't seem like that's happening as part of the phone move to 16.0415:25
barrydoko: we probably *won't* do a 3.6 transition this cycle i'm thinking15:25
slangasek(could be done with updates to their packages in the overlay ppa, but I don't think it's going to fit in scope)15:25
pittithis wouldn't be a released feature for now, and I don't know much about it, but if there's interest we can discuss this15:25
cyphermoxpitti: DNSSEC> should be doable to play with it some more, we already have dnsmasq on the desktop...15:25
dokobarry, looks a bit early15:25
barrydoko: let's leave it for zesty zebra15:26
slangasekpitti: interesting.  DNSSEC by default is a big change, so I'd hope to see a lot of eyeballs on this15:26
slangasekzippy zebra15:26
slangaseknext cycle is going to be focused on benchmarks15:26
slangasek;)15:26
pittiooh, bootspeed again? :)15:26
infinityAhh, bootspeed, the most useless benchmark ever.15:26
slangasekbootspeed matters for client UX15:27
infinity"My computer was up for 3 weeks, but thank god you saved me 5 seconds on reboot with the last kernel upgrade."15:27
slangasekand though we haven't paid attention to it on the desktop, it has mattered on the phone15:28
infinityslangasek: Oh, I understand all sorts of reasons why it's "important", but I still have opinions. ;)15:28
cyphermoxwhat about reviewing what logs, how verbosely, etc. ?15:28
slangasekit's a "benchmark" in the same sense that mouse cursor responsiveness is a "benchmark"15:28
pittialso, booting containers, VMs etc. is actually quite common15:28
slangasekcyphermox: are you suggesting a UOS session?15:28
cyphermoxslangasek: that too15:29
cyphermoxalso, crap, I think I just volunteered :)15:29
dokospeed matters? lets turn off pie again15:29
infinityPie also matters.  Because I'm hungry.15:30
pittino, pie is good!15:30
pittiturn off the broccoli instead15:30
dokono pie is good?15:30
pittiand commas matter too, FWIW :)15:30
slangasekright then ;)15:30
slangasek#endmeeting15:30
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Apr 28 15:30:54 2016 UTC.15:30
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-04-28-15.01.moin.txt15:30
slangasekthanks, all!15:31
pittithanks everyone, see you next week!15:31
caribouslangasek: thanks!15:31
tdaitxthanks all!15:31
barrythanks!15:31
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