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paddatrapperGood morning everyone04:07
chesedoMorning paddatrapper and others05:09
mazalMornings05:17
Kiloshi mazal and others05:20
Kiloshi  anton_may 05:20
magespawnood morning05:32
magespawnperhaps a good one too05:32
Kiloshi magespawn 05:33
Kilosill be quiet and slow today. kinda bad night with min sleep05:33
magespawndid the meeting keep you up late?05:36
chesedoHi mazal Kilos magespawn 05:43
Kilosnot really magespawn one of those head days05:47
Kiloshi chesedo kmf 05:48
kmfmorning Kilos 05:48
Kilosoops chased him05:56
Kiloshi boy06:06
KilosWolfeyes_is 06:06
anton_mayMorning06:16
Kilosmorning paddatrapper TinuvaMac 07:18
Kilosand theblazehen inetpro dlPhreak nuvolari 07:19
KilosMaaz seen nuvolari 07:19
MaazKilos: nuvolari was last seen 3 months, 3 days, 21 hours, 8 minutes and 36 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-01-25 02:10:54 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-17 01:24:13 PDT07:19
theblazehenhi Kilos07:19
theblazehenwow, long time07:19
Kilosyeah sad07:19
inetprogood mornings07:20
Kilossince he went to capetown he has got more and more corrupt07:20
paddatrapperHey Kilos07:50
paddatrapperAnd inetpro07:51
LangjanG'morning guys08:44
Langjanmagespawn, thanks I am making some progress with my special docs08:45
Langjanhi Kilos 08:45
Kiloshi Langjan 08:51
Langjanhoe gaan dit?08:54
Kilosok dsnkie en self08:54
Kilosdankie08:54
Kilosnet moeg, het min geslaap08:55
LangjanAi, jy het dan vroeg gaan slaap, pla jou gewete jou?08:58
LangjanGoed hier dankie08:58
Kilosnee man die domkop draai en dink oor allerand goed08:58
Kilosto in my skool dae08:59
LangjanSoos ek, moet leer afskakel08:59
Kilosen as ek by pc sit word ek moeg, dan le ek en binne tien minute is ek weer wakker08:59
LangjanKry jy genoeg oefening?09:00
Kilosja ek loop en hol my gaai af agter skape en een tollie09:00
Kilosloop seker 3 ks agter hulle aan in n dag09:01
Langjanharloop vinniger...lmga09:01
Kiloslol09:01
LangjanKilos, jou raad asb09:01
Kiloswaarmee oo09:01
Kilosm09:01
Langjanmy vriend se data op sy stokkie het slotjies op09:01
Langjanen geen toegang om te delete of stokkie te format09:02
Kilosdie data of die stok09:02
Langjandie folders09:02
Langjanfikles09:02
Langjanfiles09:02
Langjanwys 'n slot09:02
Kilosok09:02
Kilosplug it in usb port09:03
Langjanop sy ander stokkie kan hy nie toegang kry om te paste nie09:03
Langjanlyk my hys swaar op stokkies09:03
Kilosthen run sudo fsck -f /media/jan/stick name09:03
Langjanname just like that?09:03
Kilosnee man09:04
Langjanor his name?09:04
Kilosi name mine 16 and 16g etc09:04
Langjanoh just give it a name09:04
Kiloswhen i format them you get the option to name it09:04
Kilosotherwise it becomes fil_system bla bla09:05
Langjanok so that formats it so I must backup first09:05
Langjanwhre possible09:05
Kiloswait09:05
Langjanwhere09:05
Kilosyou can get to see the data on them?09:05
Langjanyes09:06
Kilosca you09:06
Kilosn09:06
Kilosok then easy to copy paste to desktop09:06
Langjanyes on some09:06
Kilosotherwise you can use testdisk to repair it09:07
Langjanok baie dankie09:07
Kiloslike damaged files can be recovered09:07
Kiloslemme see if i can find my data recovery story09:08
LangjanLooks like his grandson played with his computer, dont know how he managed to do that09:10
Kilosai!09:10
Kilosgparted will find its name09:11
Kilosor mountpoint09:11
Kilosmay be /dev/sdc or something09:11
Kilosthen you do sudo fsck -f /dev/sdc or maybe sdc109:12
LangjanHey now I'm getting confused about what to do and what not09:13
Kiloslol09:14
Kilosok 09:14
Kilosplug it in09:14
Kilosdoes pc see it09:14
LangjanIts not here, will come tomorrow09:14
* mazal peeks in09:14
Kilosok save this coming link first09:14
Langjanbut yes, pc sees it09:14
Kilosthen open gparted 09:15
Langjanhi mazal 09:15
mazalHow is everyone09:15
Langjanno link09:15
Kilosdont ask how to fix if thing not in your possesion09:15
Langjanfne thaks mazal 09:15
Kiloshi mazal 09:15
LangjanJy slaap nog as hy kom man09:16
Kiloshoe laat09:16
Kiloshttps://bin.snyman.info/mmmv2bs409:17
Langjan11:23!09:17
Langjanlmga09:17
Kilosthose commands ae for serious data loss09:17
Kilosinnie nag09:17
Kilosai! slaap julle toppies nie09:17
LangjanNee man jy vra hoe laatr dit is...09:17
Langjanlmga 09:17
Kilosnee man09:18
Langjanmore-oggend 08:3009:18
Kilosim here around 7am most days09:18
Langjannot when I need you09:18
Kiloswhen you log off ill leave that link with maaz for you09:18
Kilosbut ill be here tomorrow09:19
Langjanok will save the link on my desktop09:19
Langjanthks09:19
Kilosjust hope i havent forgotten how09:19
Kilosnormally the fsck -f works though09:19
Kilosbut if you can see whats on the stick drag drop it all to a folder on your desktop then format the stick09:20
LangjanOk thks will do09:20
mazalyou have a damaged stick ?09:21
Kilosand name it an easy name09:21
Kilosthen easy to work out the path to it09:21
Langjanno mazal is's a friends stick 09:21
mazalis it damaged ?09:21
Kiloslike mine are /media/miles/16g  and so on09:22
mazalOr what's wrong with it ?09:22
LangjanDont think so, just the files on it 09:22
mazalFiles missing ?09:22
Langjansome open with a lot of repeated letters, whole page full others no access or he cannot paste docs to it, two sticks with probs09:23
mazaloi09:23
Langjanfile shows a little lock and will not delete09:23
mazalThat doesn't sound good09:23
Kilosremember you can also chown them09:23
Kilosthats gives you full read write permissions09:24
Langjandont think my teeth are up to it 09:24
Langjanto chew on them09:24
Kilosnot chew on09:24
Kiloschown09:24
Langjanlmga09:24
mazalLinux or winbloze user ?09:24
LangjanUbuntu 14.0409:25
mazalExt4 or fat32 ? ( the stick's format )09:25
Langjansorry dont know sticks are not here09:25
LangjanI will get them tomorrow morning09:26
mazalIf ext4 it might be as simple as permissions like Kilos say , if fat32 it is something worse as fat32 don't have permissions09:26
Kiloswell see what Langjan s pc sees first09:27
Kilosno good guessing what might be the problem09:27
mazalyeah09:27
LangjanOK thks I will see how far I get tomorrow and perhaps get back to you if necessary09:27
Kilosnono09:27
Kiloscome here before you plug it in09:28
Kilosso we know09:28
LangjanOk thks will do09:28
Kilosanytime my friend09:28
Langjanok have a great day and many thks so far09:28
Kilosyou too ty09:29
Langjanthks09:29
mazalLekker dag oom Jan09:29
Langjanjy ook dankie mazal 09:29
mazalWhy do I always get stuck on the problems that google don't know09:40
mazalStill have the problem of daily update checking not working09:41
mazalWhen I checked manually in cli there was again a bunch of updates that the auto didn't notify me of09:41
TinuvaMacis the auto updates not just set to only do security updates? you need to change it to all updates if that is what you want09:47
mazalhttp://picpaste.com/updates-35BtOejE.png09:47
mazal^^09:47
mazalI can't see what is wrong there09:47
TinuvaMacoh09:48
TinuvaMacgui...09:48
TinuvaMacim stuck dont know :P09:48
mazalI think the doesn't actually run the update check.09:48
mazalCos when I run manual in cli the notifier immediately tells me there is updates09:49
mazalSo the notifier service is running , but the update check itself doesn't run it seems09:49
TinuvaMacdoes the update checker have a pid or lockfile preventing it from running perhaps?09:51
mazalHow would I check for that ?09:52
TinuvaMacno idea. unfortunately i dont use ubuntu enough to really know that09:52
mazalIt won't be apt's locfile cos then the manual wun would also fail and tell me09:52
mazallockfile* and run*09:53
mazalMaybe I must just put a manual command in root's cron if that would be safe to do09:55
mazal0 8 * * * apt update09:56
mazalWould that be safe to do ^^09:56
TinuvaMaci guess09:57
TinuvaMaccant do too much harm09:57
magespawnhalf way through a teamviewer session to sort out a 'urgent' problem, the person on the otherside just starts working again10:13
magespawni do not see a problem with that mazal, might be better to find the solution to the real problem though10:14
Langjanhi Kilos 10:32
Langjando you have a fax machine?10:32
LangjanI just need a fax to be sent to my seldom-used fax facility to keep it active10:33
Langjan086 659 770410:33
LangjanAnybody? 10:33
magespawni'll send one10:36
Kilosnope Langjan 10:36
Kiloslol10:36
* mazal plans10:36
Langjanthks magespawn appreciated10:36
Kilosjust send one yourself with a 30 day loop10:37
Langjancannot send, only hace receive facility10:37
Langjanhave10:37
Kiloslol10:37
Kilosim joking man10:37
Kilosthere is actually fax software in ubuntu10:38
mazalThis reminds me of and old Schuster song 10:38
mazal" Die Lionking-Luyt , hy fax jou sommer uit "10:38
Kiloslol10:38
mazalWho remembers that !10:38
LangjanFax from Ubuntu?10:40
Langjanmust have a look10:40
KilosMaaz google how to send a fax from 14.0410:40
MaazKilos: "Newest 'fax' Questions - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/fax :: "mgetty-fax : Trusty (14.04) : Ubuntu - Launchpad" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/mgetty-fax :: "How to Send a Fax in Ubuntu | Chron.com" http://smallbusiness.chron.com/send-fax-ubuntu-53374.html :: "Sending a fax in ubuntu | Len"10:40
Maazhttps://www.len.ro/work/sending-a-fax-in-ubuntu/ :: "How to fax - General notes | HPLIP Knowledge Base" http://hplipopens…10:40
Langjanthks Maaz 10:41
Kilosthere will be many more if you google with a browser Langjan 10:42
Kilosi use the bot because it always gives the top 410:42
squish102sent fax10:45
Kilosty squish102 10:46
squish102testing if fax would send from usa. use free service hellofax10:46
Langjanmany thks, fax received - Ford.  From magespawn or from squish102 ?  10:49
mazalmaaz seen thatgraemeguy10:53
Maazmazal: thatgraemeguy was last seen 2 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 56 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-25 22:43:55 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-21 10:03:12 PDT10:53
mazalanybody know if thatgraemeguy is ok ?10:54
squish102i sent the ford one10:55
squish102i think, was some random doc on my machine10:55
Langjanthks squish102 11:00
mazaloom Kilos , ek het 'n probleempie11:04
mazalMoet dalk die naweek bietjie winkels toe11:05
Kiloswat nou mazal 11:42
Kilosnee nee11:42
Kilosspeel die speletjies wat jy het11:42
mazaluhm11:43
KilosMaaz tell Langjan https://bin.snyman.info/mmmv2bs411:50
MaazKilos: Sure, I'll tell Langjan on freenode11:50
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KilosMaaz tell NaSb Sorry i missed you, slept the whole afternoon away14:54
MaazKilos: Got it, I'll tell NaSb on freenode14:54
magespawnhome time14:56
Kiloshi NaSb 15:01
NaSbHello Kilos ;)15:18
Kiloshi mazal 15:19
Kilosi slept the day away15:19
mazalHallo oom15:20
Kilosinetpro when you have time shout at me, safer than shouting at the devil15:25
chesedoKilos: for that issue that oom jan has. It sounds like someone went to a guest session (or another user), plugged in the sticks and changed user again...15:42
chesedooh and oom Kilos, read up on how blue lights from screens affects one's sleep...15:43
Kilosso permissions?15:43
* chesedo uses redshift (on lappy) to sleep quicker15:43
Kilosi dont have any blue screens i think15:43
chesedoyes15:43
Kilosglad you could help him ty15:44
mazalI have filters in my glasses to block the blue light15:44
chesedoKilos: no but your screen emits blue light which wakes you as red light (like a sun set) triggers one's sleep 'hormone'15:44
Kiloshow do i find this redshift15:45
chesedomazal: sounds like a benefit of having glasses...15:45
chesedorepo's i think, but read up first so that you understand15:45
Kilosok ty15:46
KilosMaaz google redshift for 14.0415:46
MaazKilos: "software installation - How do I install redshift in Ubuntu? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/482373/how-do-i-install-redshift-in-ubuntu :: "Redshift — Ubuntu Apps Directory" https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/gtk-redshift/ :: "redshift-gtk : amd64 : Trusty (14.04) : Ubuntu - Launchpad" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd6415:46
Maaz/redshift-gtk :: "Protect Your Eyes From Strain With Redshift in Linux" https://www.maketec…15:46
chesedoyip, it is in repo's15:46
Kilosoh but my screen dies after 10 mins15:46
Kilosso no light when i try sleep15:47
chesedobrrr... thats the wrong search... will give you a link soon15:47
paddatrapperKilos: The blue light wakes you while you are working on your pc. This continues long after you've turned it off, hence the poor sleep15:48
Kilosaha ty15:48
Kilosi normally crash at 9pm, and sleep well, odd days here and there i battle15:49
paddatrapperRed light in the evening "tricks" your brain into feeling sleepier and allowing you to sleep more easily when you get to bed15:49
Kilosill install it for sure thanks15:50
Kilosoh15:50
Kilosyou have to have a brain for it to work?15:50
paddatrapperJust the hormones :)15:50
Kiloslol15:50
Kilosai! restart needed for redshift15:53
Kilosshould one use redshift-gtk15:54
Kilosi dunno what the -gtk adds15:56
chesedoKilos: here's a short article - http://www.wavewallcases.com/pages/blue-light-explained15:57
Kilosty15:57
chesedothe gtk one has an frontend (GUI)15:57
chesedos/an/a/15:58
Kilosso not needed?15:58
chesedoi would use it... this is from my start-up apps - redshift-gtk -t 6500:3000 -l -25.7:28.115:59
Kilosty15:59
chesedoyour position will be about the same as mine... and can adjust '3000' to your liking (that is to which kelvin?? it goes down to). 2500 to 3500 is good16:01
Kilosok ill look at it when i reboot16:01
paddatrapperchesedo: Yup, kelvin - measure of colour temperature (low being red, high being blue)16:01
Kilosty for the info you two16:02
chesedoty paddatrapper... it's been a long time since i've had an aquarium...16:02
Kilosso those colours happen no matter screen background?16:02
paddatrapperanytime - works for photography/video too16:02
paddatrapperKilos: It tints the display.. becomes almost unnoticeable after a while16:03
Kilosaha16:03
Kilosdie engelse is slim ne16:04
chesedoKilos: all light emitting colors except for black and blue have blue in them16:04
paddatrapperHaha, ek werk met colour tem al die tyd16:04
paddatrappers/tem/temp16:04
chesedowow paddatrapper, what do you do?16:04
paddatrapperVideo mostly, some visual effects/titling too16:05
chesedooh, using any linux tools?16:05
* chesedo does some amatuer editing from time to time using shotcut (will switch to blender soon)16:06
paddatrapperI'm trying to switch over to lightworks, that way I can get rid of my Windows desktop16:07
paddatrapperBut it's quite a learning curve16:07
chesedolol, looked at it once... spent 5 mins and decided to drop it...16:08
paddatrapperlol16:08
chesedoi've stepped from things like openshot (easiest) to shotcut, now eyeing (well forced to use for a shacky video) blender, and then a step up from that would be lightworks16:10
paddatrapperOk, yeah I'm coming from Adobe Premiere, so similar work flow to shotcut and blender (I think). Still getting used to the floating components in lightworks that you just combine together16:12
chesedoblender being a 3d modeling software has a wacky (and somewhat hidden) video editing workflow16:15
chesedooh Kilos you do not have to restart... can test the command in the terminal... <ctrl> + c to quit again16:18
Kiloscool ty16:18
Kilosai!16:20
Kilos Unable to get location from provider16:20
chesedoKilos: what command did you use?16:21
Kilosredshift and redshift-gtk16:21
Kilosand once with sudo16:21
chesedoai use 'redshift-gtk -t 6500:3000 -l -25.7:28.1' - the l flag gives the location manually16:22
chesedowithout sudo16:22
Kilosoh wow16:23
Kilossjoe you should see the bugs rolling in on #ubuntu-bugs-announce16:25
chesedoKilos: quit red hey16:25
Kilosyeah16:25
chesedoin 30mins you will know why i am so sleepy 'early' in at night16:26
Kiloswow makes a massive diffs16:26
Kiloslol16:27
paddatrapperRight time to go get wet... I'll be back later16:30
Kilosgo safe16:30
Kilosor is it bath time16:31
paddatrapperHockey in the pouring rain, so close enough!16:31
Kiloslol16:32
Kilosenjoy16:32
superflychesedo: I highly recommend blenderguru.com17:22
chesedoty superfly.. remember watching Andrew years ago when i was interested in fluid simulations (and had way to much time on my hands)... his videos has always been out of this world17:29
chesedoblender has really improved with its renders since cycles came out17:30
superflychesedo: cgcookie.com also released a full blender curriculum for 3d animation students (well, their teachers, actually)17:32
superfly(free)17:32
chesedoyip, saw the mail you sent on the list... still considering going through it17:33
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:06
Kilosredshift putting me to sleep18:06
Kiloshehe18:06
inetproMaaz: tell Langjan when you do your monthly payments set one of them to fax you your confirmation of payment once every two or three months to keep your fax facility up and running18:59
Maazinetpro: Righto, I'll tell Langjan on freenode18:59
inetprogood evening everyone19:00
superflygood morning inetpro19:21
inetprosuperfly: oops, that time of day already?19:21
superflyinetpro: indeed19:22
inetprohmm... guess I shall have to wake up and get ready again19:23
inetproready for some work again*19:23
mazalNight everyone , sleep well19:41
pavlushkaHello Wolfeyes !20:35
pavlushkaWolfeyes: How are you?20:35
Wolfeyeshey pavlushka, okay and you20:39
pavlushkaI am sleepy great, thumbs up!20:40
pavlushkaGood night ZA!21:13

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