| trebmuh | hi sakrecoer | 17:56 |
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| trebmuh | hi zequence | 17:56 |
| trebmuh | (olinuxx here) | 17:56 |
| sakrecoer | hi! | 17:56 |
| trebmuh | o/ | 17:57 |
| sakrecoer | :) its better to speak about packaging in here, or stuff from the devel mailing list :) | 17:57 |
| sakrecoer | so we don't scare the artists off with funky computer words :D | 17:58 |
| trebmuh | make sense :) sorry for the mess then ;) | 17:58 |
| sakrecoer | nothing to be sorry about!! | 17:58 |
| sakrecoer | on the contrary! nice with a little action boost :D | 17:58 |
| sakrecoer | but then again, this channel exists, so lets take advantage of it! | 17:59 |
| trebmuh | yep' | 18:00 |
| sakrecoer | trebmuh aka olinuxx is the mastermind behind our french counterpart librazik | 18:00 |
| zequence | Is that a continuation of Tango Studio? | 18:02 |
| zequence | I remember I tried that distro, ardound 2008-2009 or something like that | 18:03 |
| zequence | Maybe a little later, don't remember | 18:03 |
| zequence | Was Ubuntu based at the time, I believe | 18:03 |
| trebmuh | zequence, not officialy, but I did participate to tango a bit before being unable to continue participation due to a relocation in Australia for 3 years and a half (and a job, and so on) | 18:04 |
| trebmuh | zequence, the first tangostudio was based on ubuntu yes, then the 2nd version switched to debian wheezy | 18:04 |
| trebmuh | So LibraZiK is not a continuation (from my POV) but, it can be viewed as one (as a user POV) | 18:05 |
| trebmuh | I'm focussing on imroving usability for francophone users ie : frenchised menu items, frenchised GUI (when I can) and french support through a IRC chan + forum on linuxmao.org (which I'm main admin of) | 18:06 |
| zequence | trebmuh: Why not help Ubuntu Studio have that dimension as well? | 18:07 |
| zequence | Mostly about translations and communication channels, like a french IRC, french mail list, french forum, etc. | 18:08 |
| zequence | Changes to packages are either done in Debian, or if they are original Ubuntu Studio source - here | 18:08 |
| zequence | We have had one or two being interested in doing something for Spanish speaking, but no one has ever done anything concrete for that | 18:09 |
| trebmuh | I much prefer to make my own and collaborate when that make sense (like SSR maybe) since, I'm not stuck with bureaucraty :) | 18:09 |
| trebmuh | same with debian :) | 18:09 |
| zequence | Well, duplication of work | 18:09 |
| trebmuh | not really | 18:09 |
| zequence | But, your choice :) | 18:09 |
| zequence | Why not do the work at the root instead? | 18:10 |
| trebmuh | I'm sending patches upstream when that make sense | 18:10 |
| zequence | ok | 18:10 |
| trebmuh | both in debian and/or upstream project | 18:10 |
| trebmuh | then it sailing back to ubuntu as well :) | 18:10 |
| zequence | Yep | 18:11 |
| trebmuh | in fact, I'm certainly already participating to ubuntu with this POV :) | 18:11 |
| zequence | Sure. But, you are repackaging or doing new packages, so that is duplication of work | 18:11 |
| zequence | trebmuh: How about licenses. Do you have anything non-free included? | 18:11 |
| trebmuh | not really non-free stuff | 18:12 |
| zequence | So, no linuxsampler, no flashplayer? | 18:12 |
| trebmuh | no | 18:12 |
| trebmuh | only stuff like madfuload / alsa firmware | 18:12 |
| trebmuh | and wifi stuff on my live | 18:12 |
| zequence | Ok, so it's not strictly free, in other words | 18:13 |
| zequence | ..which makes it similar to Ubuntu | 18:13 |
| trebmuh | but I much prefer spending my free time on free software | 18:13 |
| trebmuh | well more or less :) | 18:13 |
| trebmuh | I'm planning to make totally free live as well on a next release | 18:14 |
| zequence | Ok, that's something that we can't offer for sure | 18:14 |
| zequence | Well, at least not with current selection of packages | 18:14 |
| trebmuh | what do you have as non-free in US ? | 18:14 |
| zequence | There are some blobs in the kernel, such as wifi drivers | 18:15 |
| zequence | And, we include the alsa firmware stuff as well | 18:15 |
| trebmuh | "in the kernel" or as "external modules of the kernel" ? | 18:15 |
| zequence | During installation you can add stuff like nvidia drivers and flashplayer, but, it's a choice | 18:15 |
| zequence | Ubuntu packages the kernel a bit differently from Debian | 18:16 |
| trebmuh | mmm ok | 18:16 |
| zequence | It has never been fully free, I think. Debians didn't used to be either, in the past | 18:16 |
| trebmuh | I'm packaging my kernel from the debian one + some improvements if I can | 18:16 |
| trebmuh | I think the debian kernel are 100% since 2.6.x | 18:16 |
| zequence | No, I think it was after that | 18:17 |
| zequence | But, I could be wrong | 18:17 |
| trebmuh | http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Debian | 18:17 |
| zequence | Anyway, nice chatting! Need to do some work :) | 18:17 |
| trebmuh | from squeez in feb 2011 | 18:18 |
| zequence | Right, yep | 18:18 |
| trebmuh | yep no worries, always happy to share knowledge and work :) | 18:18 |
| trebmuh | I'll be sticking around if you're fine with it | 18:18 |
| zequence | Of course! :) | 18:18 |
| trebmuh | sweat | 18:18 |
| sakrecoer | please do so trebmuh ! :) | 18:18 |
| trebmuh | :) | 18:19 |
| autumna | hi trebmuh! (waves hi to also sakrecoer and zequence before vanishing right back) | 20:20 |
| zequence | autumna: Hellp | 20:21 |
| zequence | :) same error as before | 20:21 |
| autumna | zequence that particular typo cracks me up every time. :D | 20:21 |
| zequence | lol | 20:21 |
| autumna | by the way I didn't forget the website discussion or any of the other stuff. got thrown an unexpected real life curveball, should be back sometime this weekend latest. | 20:21 |
| autumna | is curveball the correct term? | 20:22 |
| zequence | Well, I would assume everyone understood, so correct enough | 20:23 |
| trebmuh | hi autumna | 20:26 |
| trebmuh | zequence, you're really good at user&jack troubleshooting, congrats :) | 20:26 |
| autumna | :) | 20:26 |
| zequence | trebmuh: I'm working on making ubuntustudio-controls take care of that in the future. Takes too long time for quite simple problems | 20:28 |
| zequence | Most of it is in the slowness in information exchange | 20:28 |
| trebmuh | I definitely do agree ! | 20:28 |
| trebmuh | zequence, so you're a coder ? | 20:28 |
| zequence | trebmuh: I do some python. The current -controls was rewritten from scratch by me | 20:28 |
| zequence | I have rewritten it again, but not finished. Doing the GTK without Glade this time | 20:29 |
| trebmuh | great | 20:29 |
| trebmuh | I hope that one day we will have a soft like this one, distro-agnostic | 20:29 |
| trebmuh | It'd serve so much new-comers | 20:30 |
| zequence | I'm planning on making an unbranded version of -controls | 20:30 |
| trebmuh | but I remember using ubuntustudio control back on 10.04 or earlier and it was so good | 20:30 |
| trebmuh | sweat ! great news ! | 20:30 |
| zequence | It's Debian based, currently, but it could do other distros too | 20:30 |
| zequence | Yes, at the time it solved some problems | 20:31 |
| trebmuh | zequence, if you would enjoy a debian tester for it, please let me know | 20:31 |
| zequence | Now, it only adds realtime privilege, which is a problem on non audio distros | 20:31 |
| trebmuh | yep | 20:31 |
| zequence | trebmuh: I think you should be able to install it as is. Just get the deb and try it out | 20:31 |
| trebmuh | will do, but what are the current feature ? only PAM configuration ? | 20:32 |
| trebmuh | s/feature/features | 20:32 |
| zequence | Yes, but it will detect if you are using something else - in which case it will not allow you to make changes to PAM | 20:32 |
| zequence | Actually, that and adding/removing users from audio group | 20:32 |
| trebmuh | ok | 20:33 |
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