[01:07] <tonito> Hello, Please someone can tell about USB 3.0 in Ubunto Studio 14.04?
[01:09] <tonito> hello ?
[12:11] <NoobieZA> Hi. I need help with mysql please. I'm trying to set up zoneminder and when I get to this stage I just get "unable to locate package"
[12:14] <sakrecoer> NoobieZA: you wont find any help here for that. try #mysql or #zoneminder
[12:14] <NoobieZA> thanks
[12:15] <sakrecoer> using zoneminder to set up a music video, NoobieZA ?
[13:08] <kiasdaddy> 'ello
[16:57] <clearwood> Hi I have just installed ubuntu studio and I am trying to install mathbuntu on top via the script.  It does not work.  Is there someone here who have done this ?
[17:00] <clearwood> is there any one here ?
[17:01] <sakrecoer> hi clearwood :) i think everyone is busy today.
[17:01] <sirriffsalot_> clearwood, fraid I can't help, hence quiet :)
[17:02] <clearwood> ok thanks for your reply :)
[17:02] <sakrecoer> i've never used mathbuntu, but ubuntu studio is really just ubuntu..
[17:02] <sakrecoer> so apt-get should install most things you want
[17:02] <clearwood> but it uses xfce doesnt it ?
[17:02] <sakrecoer> clearwood: yes
[17:04] <sakrecoer> oh but, mathbuntu is a nother flavour of ubuntu
[17:04] <sakrecoer> clearwood: to run mathbuntu within ubuntustudio, you need to set up a virtual machine
[17:05] <sakrecoer> clearwood: or you install it on another partition of your HD
[17:05] <clearwood> mathbuntu has this install script that I have run on another pc and it worked.  But when I try to run it on ubuntu studio I get som strange messages
[17:06] <sakrecoer> i found this on their website: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm_ygkKNJko
[17:06] <clearwood> is another ubunt install on another machine
[17:06] <clearwood> yes I saw it
[17:07] <clearwood> but its fore some old distro version
[17:07] <sakrecoer> from the website it looks like mathbunut hasn't been updated since 2014
[17:07] <sakrecoer> but i had never heard about it before...
[17:08] <clearwood> maybe its because of this xfce
[17:09] <sakrecoer> if it was made specifically for another DE, maybe..
[17:09] <sakrecoer> clearwood: you could make a bootable USB stick, and boot mathbuntu from it
[17:09] <clearwood> what is DE
[17:09] <sakrecoer> Desktop Environment
[17:12] <clearwood> done the stidk thing  before but the stick, does leaves out a few things.  Prefer prober install, via the script
[17:13] <sakrecoer> the documentation is a bit obscure, but from the list of included software here http://www.mathbuntu.org/index.html?open=howto under "LEArn More"
[17:13] <sakrecoer> i think could apt-get install all of them, except that "R" you would have find its name in the repository
[17:14] <sakrecoer> but i'm really affraid it is out of the scope of ubuntu studio, that is to say: you wont find much help about it here
[17:15] <clearwood> yes.  I would love to have both thing ie. studio and math
[17:15] <sakrecoer> http://www.mathbuntu.org/index.html?open=information
[17:16] <clearwood> yes I guess I can do the long walk and install it all one by one
[17:17] <clearwood> I the 14.4 so that I possibly could use the install script.
[17:18] <sakrecoer> maybe.
[17:18] <sakrecoer> if it is important to you to have both, i would try that.
[17:19] <sakrecoer> or boot mathbuntu in a virtual machine, but that isn't much easier...
[17:20] <clearwood> The install script is a bit strange I dont understand it
[17:20] <clearwood> [Desktop Entry] Categories=Education;Math; Comment[en_US]= Comment= Exec=xterm -e "`dirname %k`/.files/setup" GenericName[en_US]=Install Mathematical Software GenericName=Install Mathematical Software Icon=ubiquity MimeType= Name[en_US]=MathUbuntu Set Up Name=MathUbuntu Set Up Path= StartupNotify=false Terminal=true TerminalOptions= Type=Application
[17:20] <sakrecoer> please don't paste it here
[17:20] <clearwood> I just thought I could use parts of it
[17:21] <sakrecoer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:21] <sakrecoer> but tbh, that will not empower me to help you :(
[17:21] <clearwood> ok sorry
[17:21] <sakrecoer> try to see if they have an email list, or a IRC chanel maybe. I mean the mathbuntu guys
[17:22] <sakrecoer> good luck clearwood !
[17:22] <clearwood> yes and thanks for your attention
[17:22] <clearwood> much appreciated :)
[17:33] <sirriffsalot_> zequence, yo!
[17:41] <clearwood> just i little question.   is it possible to define shortcuts like for instance the windows key for the menu (topleft)
[17:41] <clearwood> in studio that is :)
[17:42] <sirriffsalot_> clearwood, in ardour you mean? Sure
[17:42] <olinuxx> hi sakrecoer I've read a discussion on an ubuntustudio ML lastly about screencasters. Within this discussion, someone mentionned that simplescreenrecorder isn't packaged in debian/ubuntu. I've got a package of it in my LibraZiK repos (debian jessie). I'm not sure how it is in regards of DFSG but : it works. Just mentionning it here if you guys want to start from something already done. Be aware that my package is done with a 0.3.3 version o
[17:42] <olinuxx> f SSR which is quite outdated but, once again, it works and it works with JACK for audio. HTH
[17:43] <zequence> olinuxx: Best would be to get the package into Debian, and we get it automatically from there
[17:43] <clearwood> sirriffsalot: no just in the DE
[17:43] <zequence> sirriffsalot_: Hello there
[17:44] <olinuxx> zequence, I know, I've just proposed that to the debian-multimedia team
[17:44] <sirriffsalot_> zequence, have you been kicking some serious drum asses? :D
[17:45] <zequence> sirriffsalot_: Not yet, still stuck at home, but tomorrow, for sure!
[17:45] <olinuxx> zequence, I was just mentionning for whatever it worth
[17:45] <sirriffsalot_> zequence, cool, just curious :)
[17:45] <sirriffsalot_> zequence, actually gonna head to the rehearsal room alone tomorrow for the first time, drummer's off to denmark to see Adele and vocalist is busy working so, gonna try rigging for drum recording and shit
[17:45] <zequence> olinuxx: Yes, unfortunately we would not package anything for Ubuntu unless it was totally impossible to get into Debian, and there were no serious licensing issues (and still, it would be only if someone is interested in doing it)
[17:46] <sirriffsalot_> zequence, I actually intuitively get drums more so than I thought, with some practice I could maybe pull off the basics
[17:46] <zequence> sirriffsalot_: Cool
[17:46] <zequence> sirriffsalot_: Like most things, simple when you know it
[17:46] <olinuxx> up to you guys :)
[17:49] <zequence> Always better to package for Debian so it gets spread out to as many Debian based as possible
[17:49] <zequence> So, no use in packaging for Ubuntu only, without special reasons
[17:50] <sakrecoer> cool olinuxx, nice thought! but yeah, i think the debian way is pretty nice on a larger scale :)
[17:51] <olinuxx> as said : it's been proposed to debian multimedia as well, wait'n'see then :)
[17:51] <zequence> olinuxx: I'm sure they could use a hand. YOu did the packaging yourself?
[17:53] <olinuxx> I started from a package of 0.3.1 from TangoStudio, then updated it to build on debian jessie (tangostudio was based on jessie), then updated to a 0.3.3+git version
[17:53] <olinuxx> oups
[17:53] <olinuxx> tangostudio was based on wheezy
[17:56] <zequence> olinuxx: If there are no problems with the packaging, should be no biggie. But, of course, maintaining packages for Debian has its own workflows and problems, so it can get a bit overwhelming - but there are people willing to help
[17:56] <zequence> olinuxx: First thing to do is create a bug for it
[17:57] <olinuxx> yep, I might do that
[17:57] <olinuxx> never did before, so I'll check it
[17:57] <olinuxx> thanks for the hint zequence
[17:58] <zequence> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#How_do_I_add_a_new_package_to_the_archive.3F
[17:58] <zequence> olinuxx: ^
[17:59] <olinuxx> will have a look to it, thanks.
[19:11] <galatheas> hi... anyone there?
[19:13] <olinuxx> galatheas, a few people yes, please feel free to ask your question, then wait for an answer :)
[19:13] <galatheas> thx olinuxx ;)
[19:14] <sirriffsalot_> *sneers*
[19:15] <galatheas> so, i got some problems to get jack run with my audio interface... i use the Native Instruments Guitar Rig Kontrol 2 (usb) ... if i try to select the interface as input and ouput device, jackd dont satrts...
[19:16] <galatheas> i got the follow error messages...
[19:16] <galatheas> Thu Apr 28 21:07:56 2016: ERROR: cannot register object path "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio2": A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio2 Thu Apr 28 21:07:56 2016: ERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio2 error : A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio2 Thu Apr 28 21:07:56 2016: ERROR: Audio device hw:RigKontrol3,0 cannot be acquired... Thu Apr 28 2
[19:16] <galatheas> Thu Apr 28 21:07:56 2016: ERROR: Cannot initialize driver Thu Apr 28 21:07:56 2016: ERROR: JackServer::Open failed with -1 Thu Apr 28 21:07:56 2016: ERROR: Failed to open server
[19:17] <olinuxx> you're welcome galatheas , are you new with using IRC ?
[19:18] <galatheas> not at all.. just used it to chat... not to solve any problems ;)
[19:19] <olinuxx> galatheas, ok. Just be aware than on a help channel like this one, sometimes it can take a bit before getting an answer, so a "hi", then a question, then patience :)
[19:20] <olinuxx> I'm sure someone is going to answer you soon (I can't unfortunately)
[19:21] <galatheas> ok ;) thank you olinuxx
[19:21] <olinuxx> welcome :)
[19:40] <sakrecoer> galatheas: for apsting logs, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ when it is quiet like this nobody get hurt, but if serveal people are helping each other you will get in trouble with them :)
[19:40] <sakrecoer> *pasting
[19:40] <sakrecoer> galatheas: i'm affraid your logs aren't telling me much, but could you paste a screen shot of your settings in qjackctl here for me: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/
[19:41] <zequence> sakrecoer: galatheas: My suspicion is that jackd1 is installed
[19:42] <zequence> Sounds like the audio card is already use and jack can't grab it
[19:43] <zequence> Already forgotten if jackd1 is able to do that. jackd2 will do it
[19:43] <galatheas> well zequence i use an ubuntu studio 16.04 installation.... so jackd is installed ;) @ sakrecoer ... screenshot in a few... ^^
[19:43] <zequence> galatheas: jackd, yes, but that is just a meta
[19:43] <zequence> Which is why I*m asking jackd1, or jackd2
[19:44] <zequence> If you for example decided to build something from source which deals with jack libs, then you would have removed jackd2 and installed jackd1 instead
[19:45] <zequence> Our default is jackd2
[19:45] <zequence> Under normal circumstances, it will just work - if you select a good device to start jack with
[19:45] <galatheas> no it is an fresh installation, without install anything else....
[19:46] <zequence> galatheas: No need to select input and output separately, btw. It's best to not do that
[19:47] <galatheas> sakrecoer: screen1 http://www.pasteall.org/pic/102513 and screen2 http://www.pasteall.org/pic/102514
[19:48] <galatheas> well... i think i set up the rig kontroll device correctly as default device....
[19:48] <zequence> galatheas: It is not the default device
[19:48] <galatheas> .... ehm... as system default ^
[19:48] <zequence> hw:0 is the default device
[19:48] <zequence> galatheas: Try removing settings for input/output and making those default, then in the first page, select your device instead of "default"
[19:49] <galatheas> hm if i start an mp3 or youtube video, i only listen on the output of the rig kontroll o0
[19:49] <galatheas> well... jackd starts then, but i dont have any peak on the inputs or outputs...
[19:50] <zequence> You can see inputs and outputs in "Connect"
[19:50] <zequence> If you want to monitor volume, you need to use some kind of software for that. Most recording software has monitoring built in
[19:50] <zequence> IF that is what you meant by peak
[19:51] <sakrecoer> thanks zequence, sorry galatheas i have some afk things that came up inbetween. good luck!
[19:51] <galatheas> ... i got an other message... Jack Server is started not by ladish daemon and there is no loaded studio, so a new studio is created and marked as started....
[19:52] <zequence> ladish is a separate application, so any problem with that is not totally linked to jack
[19:53] <zequence> Anyway, seems like it is working now
[19:53] <galatheas> well... jackd is started.. but it looks like that jackd is using the wrong device... (internal soundcard and not the usb interface)
[20:02] <zequence> galatheas: That is why you need to select it in the first window
[20:03] <zequence> qjackctl -> Setup -> Interface
[20:03] <zequence> Not In and Out separately in Advanced
[20:03] <zequence> "default" always means the first device in order
[20:04] <zequence> The USB device is hw:0, but your device is hw:3
[20:04] <zequence> you can see this by doing 'cat /proc/asound/cards'
[20:04] <zequence> So, "default" is always the first one - "0"
[20:05] <zequence> Sorry, the default device is hw:0, but your USB device is hw:3
[20:05] <galatheas> well... i change "default" to hw:rig_kontroll3 and i got the same error message...
[20:06] <zequence> galatheas: Maybe you have some stuff running in the background from starting ladish or something
[20:06] <zequence> galatheas: Let's try and kill that
[20:06] <galatheas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16119277/
[20:06] <zequence> galatheas: 'killall jackd jackdbus pulseaudio'
[20:07] <galatheas> all killed...
[20:07] <zequence> Also, make sure to close all applications that deal with jac
[20:07] <zequence> jack*
[20:07] <galatheas> yep... all are closed...
[20:07] <zequence> Then, open qjackctl, and try starting jack. Always do that first
[20:08] <galatheas> driver Alsa and device: hw:RigKontrol3,0 ?
[20:08] <zequence> yes
[20:08] <zequence> galatheas: I'm assuming it has both stereo input and output?
[20:09] <zequence> More is ok too
[20:09] <galatheas> left and right channel... yes... for both...
[20:09] <zequence> not starting now?
[20:10] <galatheas> nope.. same error
[20:10] <zequence> sure all jacks were killed before, maybe something hung?
[20:10] <zequence> killall -9 jackd jackdbus
[20:10] <zequence> Do it a couple of times, if it says no processes found they are killed
[20:10] <galatheas> jackd - no process found ;)
[20:11] <zequence> Only for that one?
[20:11] <zequence> also 'killall jackdbus'
[20:11] <galatheas> yep
[20:11] <galatheas> now both
[20:11] <zequence> retry qjackctl
[20:12] <galatheas> runs... but a lot of xrun errors ;)
[20:12] <zequence> ok, then it's running now
[20:12] <zequence> I would use 3 periods for buffer instead of two
[20:12] <zequence> I hear it is better for USB
[20:13] <zequence> Also, USB is not the most reliable for low latency, so you may have to settle for fairly high latency
[20:13] <zequence> For that a realtime kernel could help
[20:13] <zequence> But, Ubuntu doesn't have one
[20:14] <zequence> galatheas: Probably you were opening different applications in different order, and because there are like 2-3 different kinds of jack, one can get stuck and stop the others
[20:14] <galatheas> frames ... 32? ok?
[20:14] <zequence> galatheas: No, that's very, very low
[20:14] <olinuxx> :)
[20:14] <galatheas> 128? ^^ or more?
[20:14] <zequence> galatheas: Yes, I would say so
[20:15] <zequence> For some PCI cards on some systems, even 16 may work
[20:15] <zequence> But, I would not think so for USB
[20:15] <olinuxx> I was just at the point of mentionning that :)
[20:15] <galatheas> ok... looks good... no xrun errors...
[20:20] <zequence> I typically use around 128/256 for live processing, but in the studio where I do all my monitoring through hardware, I keep it up at at least 1024
[20:20] <zequence> It's a world of difference when you are mixing something and need a lot of plugins
[20:20] <zequence> I might even have it at 2048 for that reason
[20:28] <galatheas> ok... just tested a bit... 128 runs pretty good... ^^ now just need some nice guitar amp plugins for ardour xD
[20:29] <galatheas> thanks zequence for your help.... :)
[20:29] <zequence> galatheas: Good to hear
[20:33] <olinuxx> galatheas, you might want to have a look to guitarix then
[20:33] <zequence> Also rakkarack
[20:33] <zequence> Or, what was the name now again :)
[20:34] <olinuxx> ahahah :)
[20:34] <olinuxx> something around those lines ;)
[20:35] <zequence> rakarrack, that was it
[20:37] <galatheas> currently playing arround with it... need more... DRIVE xD
[20:38] <olinuxx> :)
[21:27] <jbermudes> Anyone use Ubuntu Studio with a 4k monitor?
[22:09] <zequence> jbermudes: Nope. You?
[22:24] <jbermudes> zequence: Yeah, I just got a 4k laptop and everything's so tiny. I've been slowly making adjustments based on random stack overflow recommendations but overall it seems like maybe xfce isn't as easy to scale things for hidpi screens
[22:52] <studio-user348> ?
[22:53] <studio-user348> il y a quelqu'un ?
[22:53] <olinuxx> oui
[22:53] <olinuxx> studio-user348, c'est un canal anglophone ici, tu peux utiliser l'anglais ?
[22:53] <studio-user348> pas vraiment ah ah ah !
[22:53] <olinuxx> (asking studio-user348 if he can use english)
[22:54] <studio-user348> un canal Français ?
[22:54] <olinuxx> pour ubuntu-studio spécifiquement, je ne crois pas. Attends, je demande.
[22:54] <olinuxx> Is there a dedicated ubuntu-studio FR channel zequence / sakrecoer  ?
[22:55] <olinuxx> I bet no but better asking before answering :)
[22:55] <olinuxx> studio-user348, "pas vraiment" ou "un peu quand même" ?
[22:55] <studio-user348> mais toi, tu t'exprimes en français sinon seulement en terme technique pour l'anglais et crois que , c'est une galère
[22:55] <olinuxx> studio-user348, oui, mais moi, je n'utilise pas vraiment ubuntustudio
[22:56] <olinuxx> studio-user348, tu as peut être une question précise ?
[22:56] <studio-user348> peu ou alors avec un traducteur , si tu savais combien en France, cela agace de voit tout en anglais malheuseusement
[22:56] <olinuxx> studio-user348, je sais, et c'est de pire en pire
[22:57] <olinuxx> ceci dit, ubuntustudio est une (relativement) petite communauté, donc y'a pas les moyens humains pour avoir des canaux d'entre-aide spécifique à chaque langue
[22:57] <studio-user348> je réinstalle, j'ai eu un problème avec le serveur pusleaudio, je n'ai pas trouvé après plusieurs tentatives, la bonne démarche !
[22:57] <olinuxx> studio-user348, je ne peux pas t'aider pour ça, navré
[22:57] <olinuxx> studio-user348, par contre, ce que je sais, c'est que sakrecoer est francophone
[22:58] <olinuxx> studio-user348, et sakrecoer est le nouveau "chef de projet" pour ubuntustudio
[22:58] <olinuxx> studio-user348, donc, si tu patientes, peut être pourra-t'il t'aider
[22:58] <studio-user348> sinon j'ai trouvé sur ubuntu studio, ce je n'ai pas jamais vraiment réussit à trouver sur windows !
[22:58] <olinuxx> studio-user348, ceci dit, il est 1h du mat' donc ... :)
[22:58] <olinuxx> super :)
[22:59] <studio-user348> ah ah ah ! c'est vrai je n'ai pas vu l'heure
[22:59] <olinuxx> studio-user348, is saying that he founds in ubuntustudio something he never really findes on windows :)
[22:59] <studio-user348> yes
[22:59] <olinuxx> s/findes/finds
[22:59] <studio-user348> je me régale pour le son
[23:00] <olinuxx> studio-user348, tu connais linuxmao ? Y'a pas mal d'utilisateur d'ubuntustudio là bas
[23:00] <olinuxx> et ils sont tous francophones
[23:01] <olinuxx> sakrecoer, I hope it's ok to send him to linuxmao to get answered by french speakers, if it's not, please tell me (and forgives me)
[23:01] <studio-user348> c'est un chat ? il y en a un ?
[23:01] <studio-user348> je trouverai bien ...
[23:02] <olinuxx> studio-user348, il y a un chat oui, et linuxmao.org qui est un wiki + un forum (principalement), le tout en langue de molière :)
[23:02] <studio-user348> je dois faire un " redémarrage" , je termine l'installation !merci pour l'info olinux je te souhaite le reste ! )
[23:03] <olinuxx> de rien, content d'avoir pu aider studio-user348
[23:03] <olinuxx> bon redémarrage :)
[23:03] <studio-user348> merci )