pitti | Good morning | 06:18 |
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seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 07:27 |
pitti | bonjour seb128 ! ça va ? | 07:27 |
seb128 | hey pitti! ça va bien ! et toi ? | 07:27 |
pitti | seb128: moi aussi, merci ! | 07:27 |
seb128 | c'est vendredi ! | 07:28 |
RAOF | Aloha robert_ancell! | 07:28 |
pitti | seb128: can you approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-y-replace-upstart for yakkety ? | 07:29 |
robert_ancell | RAOF, heyho | 07:29 |
seb128 | pitti, done | 07:29 |
seb128 | hey RAOF | 07:29 |
RAOF | Yo seb128! | 07:30 |
pitti | seb128: merci | 07:36 |
seb128 | attente, Laney, 77c2347dde65c62336b612d91a32b9cf06cf66a7 | 08:12 |
Laney | can you share the command plz? | 08:13 |
seb128 | $ git log --full-history src/gs-app.c | 08:13 |
seb128 | and looked at commits around the date you had earlier | 08:13 |
qengho | popey: How are you downloading snap packages every day? I overheard, but didn't get the details. wget? | 08:47 |
popey | a magical script | 08:48 |
popey | which just hits the store API and yanks everything it sees | 08:49 |
popey | its a shame the snaps don't have sane names for the .snap files :( | 08:49 |
popey | "AXQwkeqxpsWVOF2kUsgT6zJKVW8H9NIm_14.snap" | 08:50 |
qengho | popey: right. What agent downloads? curl? wget? python? | 08:50 |
popey | a shonky python script | 08:50 |
qengho | popey: thank! | 08:51 |
qengho | s | 08:51 |
popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/16124050/ | 08:51 |
duflu | Sounds in keeping "with snaps are very different to debs" | 08:52 |
qengho | popey: I don't know the word "shonky", but I shall interpret it as "pretty good" because that program is. Thanks. | 08:59 |
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Guest22848 | Hej gdzie moge znalezc katalog w ktorym domyslnie zostal zmontowany telefon (ubuntu 15.10) | 10:30 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html | 11:37 |
chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 11:37 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? | 11:38 |
chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, not bad thanks | 11:38 |
chrisccoulson | I see you've had a lot of fun this week ;) | 11:38 |
seb128 | we had some | 11:39 |
seb128 | but yeah, team dinner was great | 11:39 |
seb128 | we had plenty to eat and drink (even too much) and we just hit the per-diem | 11:39 |
chrisccoulson | Nice :) | 11:40 |
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seb128 | Laney, bug #1576539 ... that's what I was mentioning with upgrades issues with gconf | 12:01 |
ubot5 | bug 1576539 in gconf (Ubuntu) "package gconf2 3.2.6-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576539 | 12:01 |
seb128 | Laney, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 has sort others | 12:02 |
FJKong_ | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16125148/ | 12:03 |
seb128 | FJKong_, happyaron, it's bug #1570817 | 12:10 |
ubot5 | bug 1570817 in libjpeg9 (Ubuntu) "package libjpeg-progs (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: Versuch, »/usr/bin/rdjpgcom« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket libjpeg-turbo-progs 1.3.0-0ubuntu2 ist" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570817 | 12:10 |
happyaron | I see | 12:16 |
seb128 | happyaron, want to do a SRU for it? I can sponsor it | 12:17 |
happyaron | sure, will do | 12:17 |
seb128 | just makes libjpeg-progs Conflicts on libjpeg-turbo-progs | 12:17 |
seb128 | the conflicts was added the other way around | 12:18 |
seb128 | but it only works if the later is updated first | 12:18 |
happyaron | seb128: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257060860/libjpeg9_9b-1ubuntu1.debdiff | 12:27 |
seb128 | happyaron, should be a Conflicts and not a Breaks | 12:30 |
seb128 | also I'm unsure the Replaces is needed in those case? | 12:31 |
seb128 | (doesn't hurt though) | 12:31 |
happyaron | seb128: following https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package it should be Breaks not Conflicts (was informed quite some time ago saying that would help apt to solve deps..) | 12:31 |
happyaron | but if you think Conflicts is better I can change that | 12:32 |
seb128 | you are not renaming a package | 12:32 |
happyaron | ok | 12:32 |
seb128 | happyaron, https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-conflicts | 12:33 |
seb128 | Conflicts should be used | 12:33 |
seb128 | when two packages provide the same file and will continue to do so, | 12:33 |
happyaron | ok | 12:33 |
seb128 | thanks :-) | 12:33 |
happyaron | seb128: updated https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257062842/libjpeg9_9b-1ubuntu1.debdiff | 12:34 |
seb128 | happyaron, looks good, thanks | 12:34 |
seb128 | :-) | 12:34 |
seb128 | happyaron, uploaded | 13:14 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Hi Sebastien! How important is ISO size these days? Asking because of bug #1575555, comment #10. | 13:14 |
ubot5 | bug 1575555 in fonts-noto-cjk (Ubuntu) "Chrome/Chromium use "Thin" as default font weight" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575555 | 13:14 |
happyaron | seb128: thanks! | 13:15 |
seb128 | happyaron, thank you for providing the diff ;-) | 13:15 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: Any thoughts on that bug ^ ? | 13:16 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, it's a cost/benefit balance, we don't have strict limit but making them bigger has an impact on mirrors, downloads, install time, etc | 13:16 |
happyaron | GunnarHj: for me it would be nice to include all of them, but as you are asking, the size could be a problem | 13:16 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, the 372mb deb is not something we want | 13:17 |
happyaron | GunnarHj: we might rebuild the fonts from scratch, like what Fedora is doing | 13:17 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: Would that make them smaller? | 13:18 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, why did you had a policykit-desktop-privileges part to the hibernate bug? | 13:18 |
happyaron | nope, but seems they did some trick to make the individual files work better for them | 13:19 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Because of your comment. ;) Did I misunderstand? | 13:19 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, I pointed as the diff for reference, I think the documentation just need to update the list of actions to be the same that is used there | 13:19 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, yeah, I was pointing to the change done in the profile for reference, I don't think anything more need changing on that side | 13:19 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, you need to update the documentation to include the other actions | 13:19 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Are you saying that both files need to be changed? Also the one outside of /etc? | 13:20 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, no, I'm saying that /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla on https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html should have a | 13:21 |
seb128 | - Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate;org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-multiple-sessions | 13:21 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: The individual files seem to work fine already. The size is the problem. | 13:21 |
seb128 | + Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate;org.freedesktop.login1.handle-hibernate-key;org.freedesktop.login1;org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-multiple-sessions;org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-ignore-inhibit | 13:21 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, can you try to have that actions list ^ in /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla and see if it works? | 13:22 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Unfortunately not - hibernation doesn't work on my box. But I can ask the bug reporter. | 13:23 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, well no need of working hibernation to see if the menu item is there? | 13:24 |
GunnarHj | seb128: True. Will try later. Thanks! | 13:25 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Are those 300 MiB a definitive no-go? (It would be possible to drop Korean in 16.04, but it would still be a 200+ MiB addition. | 13:26 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, yes, I don't think that's reasonable | 13:27 |
seb128 | we can make language selector pull those at installation time though if you are online | 13:27 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, that's what I exepected. Well, the problem is that the package is already seeded in all flavors,. | 13:28 |
seb128 | we can split it? | 13:28 |
GunnarHj | seb128: It's needed on the installer too. (But not for Chrome OTOH hand...) | 13:29 |
seb128 | I don't have a good answer to that | 13:29 |
seb128 | sorry :-/ | 13:29 |
GunnarHj | seb128: I think a split is worth considering. happyaron? | 13:29 |
seb128 | seems like yes | 13:30 |
happyaron | agrees | 13:30 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: Could we stick with e.g. "Regular", "Light" and "Bold" for JP, SC and TC on the installer? | 13:32 |
seb128 | tjaalton, hey, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1551028 still on your todolist/something you plan to look at? | 13:40 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1551028 in cairo (Ubuntu) "glGenFramebuffers fails when linked with OSMesa AND X11" [High,New] | 13:40 |
seb128 | seems concerning if it's a LTS SRU regression | 13:40 |
seb128 | we should at least try to understand it | 13:40 |
tjaalton | seb128: i haven't had time | 14:01 |
seb128 | tjaalton, k :-( | 14:14 |
tjaalton | there should be nothing special in the lts stack itself that would make it crash | 14:18 |
tjaalton | works in xenial fwiw | 14:18 |
seb128 | yeah, maybe it's a local problem/specific to the config | 14:20 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks for the comment on that accountsservice bug | 14:20 |
mdeslaur | seb128: np | 14:22 |
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happyaron | seb128: mind sponsor this? the failure could be a problem of my running kernel, rebooting solved the problem. https://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/6379161/+listing-archive-extra | 14:32 |
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happyaron | (and in that link the red cross is just fail to upload) | 14:33 |
seb128 | right, I saw that | 14:33 |
seb128 | wonder why | 14:33 |
happyaron | I deleted the previous test build, but probably not completed yet | 14:34 |
seb128 | happyaron, unsure also if we need to update the plugins at the same time | 14:34 |
happyaron | guess we need | 14:34 |
happyaron | anyway looking at that already | 14:35 |
seb128 | yeah | 14:35 |
seb128 | I wonder if we should change the version | 14:35 |
seb128 | ubuntu16.04.1 to ubuntu0.16.04.1 | 14:36 |
seb128 | to be < ubuntu1 | 14:36 |
happyaron | ok | 14:36 |
happyaron | yep | 14:36 |
seb128 | I can do that | 14:36 |
seb128 | no need to reupload | 14:36 |
happyaron | ty! | 14:36 |
seb128 | oh | 14:36 |
seb128 | you need a SRU bug | 14:37 |
happyaron | what about y series | 14:37 |
happyaron | doing | 14:37 |
seb128 | I can upload that as 0ubuntu1 | 14:37 |
happyaron | ok | 14:37 |
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happyaron | seb128: bug #1576726 | 14:42 |
ubot5 | bug 1576726 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[SRU]network-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576726 | 14:42 |
happyaron | seb128: shall we use the same bug for the applet package? | 14:43 |
a1fa | does anyone have issues with ALT+TAB, selecting a window, and that window not being pulled to the front? it alwasy almost happens with GNOME TERMINAL :) | 14:44 |
seb128 | happyaron, yes | 14:47 |
qengho_ | a1fa: I have seen it when typing right before or right after, not sure which. What environment do you use? ubuntu (unity)? gnome3? | 14:48 |
a1fa | Unity 7.4, this bug has been around for a while | 14:48 |
a1fa | its so hard to reproduce, but i think it only affets gnome terminal afaik | 14:48 |
seb128 | happyaron, you need a testcase in the description | 14:50 |
seb128 | happyaron, nothing specific to test there but maybe mention to test connecting to eth, wifi, vpn and see if things work normally | 14:50 |
happyaron | ty, was wondering about what to write when seeing the template.. | 14:51 |
happyaron | updated | 14:53 |
seb128 | thanks | 14:53 |
seb128 | uploaded to yakkety | 14:53 |
happyaron | thanks | 14:53 |
GunnarHj | seb128, happyaron: Back to fonts-noto-cjk: Would it be possible to let fonts-noto-cjk *depend* on e.g. fonts-noto-cjk-extra, even if the latter is not included on the ISO? | 14:55 |
seb128 | GunnarHj, well, is the former included on the cd? | 14:55 |
GunnarHj | seb128: Yes. Actually I meant recommend. | 14:55 |
seb128 | no | 14:56 |
seb128 | we install recommends by default | 14:56 |
happyaron | GunnarHj: Recommends + l-s | 14:56 |
seb128 | so it would get pulled on the iso | 14:56 |
happyaron | we can filter that out I guess | 14:56 |
happyaron | * (fonts-noto-cjk) | 14:56 |
happyaron | at least we can include it in pkg_depends first, what do you think? | 14:57 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: pkg_depends is of course not a problem. But all users don't start l-s the first thing they do after install. | 14:58 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: But do you have an idea about which font files would be required in fonts-noto-cjk? | 14:59 |
happyaron | GunnarHj: what do you mean by that | 15:00 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: We want Chinese (and Japanese) be visible at installation, right? | 15:01 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: Repeating my above question: Could we stick with e.g. "Regular", "Light" and "Bold" for JP, SC and TC on the installer? | 15:02 |
happyaron | guess we want every language we support to be visible at installation... fonts-noto is now the only font on CD that supports every language... | 15:02 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: Right. But we probably don't need all the font weights. Hence my question. | 15:03 |
happyaron | ah understand now | 15:04 |
happyaron | I think what you proposed would be enough | 15:04 |
GunnarHj | happyaron: Ok, so should I proceed along those lines? fonts-noto-cjk installes that reduced list of fonts, and the rest in fonts-noto-cjk-extra. The latter is suggested by fonts-noto-cjk and pulled by pkg_depends. | 15:06 |
happyaron | I'm fine with it. what do you think seb128? | 15:07 |
seb128 | works for me as well | 15:08 |
GunnarHj | seb128, happyaron: Getting back with a proposal, then. | 15:09 |
happyaron | seb128: the applet: https://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/6379293/+listing-archive-extra | 15:11 |
seb128 | happyaron, thanks | 15:13 |
happyaron | well I'm also maintaining ocserv, the server implementation of cisco anyconnect protocol. looks openconnect is on my plate as well? | 15:14 |
seb128 | yes | 15:15 |
seb128 | happyaron, ideally you would update n-m-* | 15:15 |
happyaron | ok | 15:15 |
seb128 | openconnect/openvpn/pptp/vpnc | 15:15 |
seb128 | but probably for next week | 15:15 |
seb128 | we should wrap that week/sprint now ;-) | 15:16 |
happyaron | yep | 15:16 |
Laney | seb128 is going to give a motivational speech | 15:17 |
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a1fa | is unity8 package a rolling update in 16.04? | 19:20 |
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