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pittiGood morning06:18
seb128good morning desktopers!07:27
pittibonjour seb128 ! ça va ?07:27
seb128hey pitti! ça va bien ! et toi ?07:27
pittiseb128: moi aussi, merci !07:27
seb128c'est vendredi !07:28
RAOFAloha robert_ancell!07:28
pittiseb128: can you approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-y-replace-upstart for yakkety ?07:29
robert_ancellRAOF, heyho07:29
seb128pitti, done07:29
seb128hey RAOF07:29
RAOFYo seb128!07:30
pittiseb128: merci07:36
seb128attente, Laney, 77c2347dde65c62336b612d91a32b9cf06cf66a708:12
Laneycan you share the command plz?08:13
seb128$ git log --full-history src/gs-app.c08:13
seb128and looked at commits around the date you had earlier08:13
qenghopopey: How are you downloading snap packages every day? I overheard, but didn't get the details. wget?08:47
popeya magical script08:48
popeywhich just hits the store API and yanks everything it sees08:49
popeyits a shame the snaps don't have sane names for the .snap files :(08:49
popey"AXQwkeqxpsWVOF2kUsgT6zJKVW8H9NIm_14.snap"08:50
qenghopopey: right. What agent downloads? curl? wget? python?08:50
popeya shonky python script08:50
qenghopopey: thank!08:51
qenghos08:51
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16124050/08:51
dufluSounds in keeping "with snaps are very different to debs"08:52
qenghopopey: I don't know the word "shonky", but I shall interpret it as "pretty good" because that program is. Thanks.08:59
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* willcooke -> airport09:40
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Guest22848Hej gdzie moge znalezc katalog w ktorym domyslnie zostal zmontowany telefon (ubuntu 15.10)10:30
seb128robert_ancell, http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html11:37
chrisccoulsonhey seb12811:37
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?11:38
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, not bad thanks11:38
chrisccoulsonI see you've had a lot of fun this week ;)11:38
seb128we had some11:39
seb128but yeah, team dinner was great11:39
seb128we had plenty to eat and drink (even too much) and we just hit the per-diem11:39
chrisccoulsonNice :)11:40
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seb128Laney, bug #1576539 ... that's what I was mentioning with upgrades issues with gconf12:01
ubot5bug 1576539 in gconf (Ubuntu) "package gconf2 3.2.6-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157653912:01
seb128Laney, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 has sort others12:02
FJKong_seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16125148/12:03
seb128FJKong_, happyaron, it's bug #157081712:10
ubot5bug 1570817 in libjpeg9 (Ubuntu) "package libjpeg-progs (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: Versuch, »/usr/bin/rdjpgcom« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket libjpeg-turbo-progs 1.3.0-0ubuntu2 ist" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157081712:10
happyaronI see12:16
seb128happyaron, want to do a SRU for it? I can sponsor it12:17
happyaronsure, will do12:17
seb128just makes libjpeg-progs Conflicts on libjpeg-turbo-progs12:17
seb128the conflicts was added the other way around12:18
seb128but it only works if the later is updated first12:18
happyaronseb128: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257060860/libjpeg9_9b-1ubuntu1.debdiff12:27
seb128happyaron, should be a Conflicts and not a Breaks12:30
seb128also I'm unsure the Replaces is needed in those case?12:31
seb128(doesn't hurt though)12:31
happyaronseb128: following https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package it should be Breaks not Conflicts (was informed quite some time ago saying that would help apt to solve deps..)12:31
happyaronbut if you think Conflicts is better I can change that12:32
seb128you are not renaming a package12:32
happyaronok12:32
seb128happyaron, https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-conflicts12:33
seb128 Conflicts should be used12:33
seb128    when two packages provide the same file and will continue to do so,12:33
happyaronok12:33
seb128thanks :-)12:33
happyaronseb128: updated https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257062842/libjpeg9_9b-1ubuntu1.debdiff12:34
seb128happyaron, looks good, thanks12:34
seb128:-)12:34
seb128happyaron, uploaded13:14
GunnarHjseb128: Hi Sebastien! How important is ISO size these days? Asking because of bug #1575555, comment #10.13:14
ubot5bug 1575555 in fonts-noto-cjk (Ubuntu) "Chrome/Chromium use "Thin" as default font weight" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157555513:14
happyaronseb128: thanks!13:15
seb128happyaron, thank you for providing the diff ;-)13:15
GunnarHjhappyaron: Any thoughts on that bug ^ ?13:16
seb128GunnarHj, it's a cost/benefit balance, we don't have strict limit but making them bigger has an impact on mirrors, downloads, install time, etc13:16
happyaronGunnarHj: for me it would be nice to include all of them, but as you are asking, the size could be a problem13:16
seb128GunnarHj, the 372mb deb is not something we want13:17
happyaronGunnarHj: we might rebuild the fonts from scratch, like what Fedora is doing13:17
GunnarHjhappyaron: Would that make them smaller?13:18
seb128GunnarHj, why did you had a policykit-desktop-privileges part to the hibernate bug?13:18
happyaronnope, but seems they did some trick to make the individual files work better for them13:19
GunnarHjseb128: Because of your comment. ;) Did I misunderstand?13:19
seb128GunnarHj, I pointed as the diff for reference, I think the documentation just need to update the list of actions to be the same that is used there13:19
seb128GunnarHj, yeah, I was pointing to the change done in the profile for reference, I don't think anything more need changing on that side13:19
seb128GunnarHj, you need to update the documentation to include the other actions13:19
GunnarHjseb128: Are you saying that both files need to be changed? Also the one outside of /etc?13:20
seb128GunnarHj, no, I'm saying that /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla on https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html should have a13:21
seb128- Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate;org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-multiple-sessions13:21
GunnarHjhappyaron: The individual files seem to work fine already. The size is the problem.13:21
seb128+ Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate;org.freedesktop.login1.handle-hibernate-key;org.freedesktop.login1;org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-multiple-sessions;org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-ignore-inhibit13:21
seb128GunnarHj, can you try to have that actions list ^ in /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla and see if it works?13:22
GunnarHjseb128: Unfortunately not - hibernation doesn't work on my box. But I can ask the bug reporter.13:23
seb128GunnarHj, well no need of working hibernation to see if the menu item is there?13:24
GunnarHjseb128: True. Will try later. Thanks!13:25
GunnarHjseb128: Are those 300 MiB a definitive no-go? (It would be possible to drop Korean in 16.04, but it would still be a 200+ MiB addition.13:26
seb128GunnarHj, yes, I don't think that's reasonable13:27
seb128we can make language selector pull those at installation time though if you are online13:27
GunnarHjseb128: Ok, that's what I exepected. Well, the problem is that the package is already seeded in all flavors,.13:28
seb128we can split it?13:28
GunnarHjseb128: It's needed on the installer too. (But not for Chrome OTOH hand...)13:29
seb128I don't have a good answer to that13:29
seb128sorry :-/13:29
GunnarHjseb128: I think a split is worth considering. happyaron?13:29
seb128seems like yes13:30
happyaronagrees13:30
GunnarHjhappyaron: Could we stick with e.g. "Regular", "Light" and "Bold" for JP, SC and TC on the installer?13:32
seb128tjaalton, hey, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1551028 still on your todolist/something you plan to look at?13:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1551028 in cairo (Ubuntu) "glGenFramebuffers fails when linked with OSMesa AND X11" [High,New]13:40
seb128seems concerning if it's a LTS SRU regression13:40
seb128we should at least try to understand it13:40
tjaaltonseb128: i haven't had time14:01
seb128tjaalton, k :-(14:14
tjaaltonthere should be nothing special in the lts stack itself that would make it crash14:18
tjaaltonworks in xenial fwiw14:18
seb128yeah, maybe it's a local problem/specific to the config14:20
seb128mdeslaur, thanks for the comment on that accountsservice bug14:20
mdeslaurseb128: np14:22
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happyaronseb128: mind sponsor this? the failure could be a problem of my running kernel, rebooting solved the problem. https://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/6379161/+listing-archive-extra14:32
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happyaron(and in that link the red cross is just fail to upload)14:33
seb128right, I saw that14:33
seb128wonder why14:33
happyaronI deleted the previous test build, but probably not completed yet14:34
seb128happyaron, unsure also if we need to update the plugins at the same time14:34
happyaronguess we need14:34
happyaronanyway looking at that already14:35
seb128yeah14:35
seb128I wonder if we should change the version14:35
seb128ubuntu16.04.1  to ubuntu0.16.04.114:36
seb128to be < ubuntu114:36
happyaronok14:36
happyaronyep14:36
seb128I can do that14:36
seb128no need to reupload14:36
happyaronty!14:36
seb128oh14:36
seb128you need a SRU bug14:37
happyaronwhat about y series14:37
happyarondoing14:37
seb128I can upload that as 0ubuntu114:37
happyaronok14:37
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happyaronseb128: bug #157672614:42
ubot5bug 1576726 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[SRU]network-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157672614:42
happyaronseb128: shall we use the same bug for the applet package?14:43
a1fadoes anyone have issues with ALT+TAB, selecting a window, and that window not being pulled to the front? it alwasy almost happens with GNOME TERMINAL :)14:44
seb128happyaron, yes14:47
qengho_a1fa: I have seen it when typing right before or right after, not sure which. What environment do you use?  ubuntu (unity)? gnome3?14:48
a1faUnity 7.4, this bug has been around for a while14:48
a1faits so hard to reproduce, but i think it only affets gnome terminal afaik14:48
seb128happyaron, you need a testcase in the description14:50
seb128happyaron, nothing specific to test there but maybe mention to test connecting to eth, wifi, vpn and see if things work normally14:50
happyaronty, was wondering about what to write when seeing the template..14:51
happyaronupdated14:53
seb128thanks14:53
seb128uploaded to yakkety14:53
happyaronthanks14:53
GunnarHjseb128, happyaron: Back to fonts-noto-cjk: Would it be possible to let fonts-noto-cjk *depend* on e.g. fonts-noto-cjk-extra, even if the latter is not included on the ISO?14:55
seb128GunnarHj, well, is the former included on the cd?14:55
GunnarHjseb128: Yes. Actually I meant recommend.14:55
seb128no14:56
seb128we install recommends by default14:56
happyaronGunnarHj: Recommends + l-s14:56
seb128so it would get pulled on the iso14:56
happyaronwe can filter that out I guess14:56
happyaron* (fonts-noto-cjk)14:56
happyaronat least we can include it in pkg_depends first, what do you think?14:57
GunnarHjhappyaron: pkg_depends is of course not a problem. But all users don't start l-s the first thing they do after install.14:58
GunnarHjhappyaron: But do you have an idea about which font files would be required in fonts-noto-cjk?14:59
happyaronGunnarHj: what do you mean by that15:00
GunnarHjhappyaron: We want Chinese (and Japanese) be visible at installation, right?15:01
GunnarHjhappyaron: Repeating my above question: Could we stick with e.g. "Regular", "Light" and "Bold" for JP, SC and TC on the installer?15:02
happyaronguess we want every language we support to be visible at installation... fonts-noto is now the only font on CD that supports every language...15:02
GunnarHjhappyaron: Right. But we probably don't need all the font weights. Hence my question.15:03
happyaronah understand now15:04
happyaronI think what you proposed would be enough15:04
GunnarHjhappyaron: Ok, so should I proceed along those lines? fonts-noto-cjk installes that reduced list of fonts, and the rest in fonts-noto-cjk-extra. The latter is suggested by fonts-noto-cjk and pulled by pkg_depends.15:06
happyaronI'm fine with it. what do you think seb128?15:07
seb128works for me as well15:08
GunnarHjseb128, happyaron: Getting back with a proposal, then.15:09
happyaronseb128: the applet: https://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/6379293/+listing-archive-extra15:11
seb128happyaron, thanks15:13
happyaronwell I'm also maintaining ocserv, the server implementation of cisco anyconnect protocol. looks openconnect is on my plate as well?15:14
seb128yes15:15
seb128happyaron, ideally you would update n-m-*15:15
happyaronok15:15
seb128openconnect/openvpn/pptp/vpnc15:15
seb128but probably for next week15:15
seb128we should wrap that week/sprint now ;-)15:16
happyaronyep15:16
Laneyseb128 is going to give a motivational speech15:17
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a1fais unity8 package a rolling update in 16.04?19:20
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