[11:38] <de-facto> Hey guys, any idea where i can disable that annoying "welcome, first steps" greeter? it shows up everytime i login and its kinda annoying me now...
[11:42] <de-facto> would i need to uninstall gnome help or something to get rid of it?
[12:43] <de-facto> Hey guys, i want to connect my android 6 phone to gnome notifications and sync clipboard. Back in the days there was DeskCon, but that doesnt work anymore, what is the best way to do this nowerdays? any ideas/suggestions?
[12:53] <georgeowell_> I haven't tested it but I've heard good things about KDE connect
[12:53] <georgeowell_> de-facto: It runs on non KDE desktops too
[12:53] <de-facto> yeah i heard that too, but im not sure how to pair it with gnome
[12:54] <de-facto> it does not list my gnome box as available device
[12:56] <de-facto> i guess on the gnome side there is no counterpart for it maybe?
[12:58] <de-facto> i wish he did not die, his DeskCon was awesome for this https://github.com/screenfreeze
[13:04] <georgeowell_> not to my knowledge
[13:04] <georgeowell_> haven't looked into it
[13:04] <georgeowell_> have you looked on F-Droid?
[13:05] <de-facto> yeah its on fdroid, but i think the extension for gnome does not work in 3.18 anymore
[13:07] <de-facto> there is also Nuntius but that seems to only sync Notifications and is not near the functionality DeskCon provided back in the days
[13:08] <de-facto> id like to share links and clipboard, e.g. if i found a nice link on android open it on desktop for further investigations and such
[13:09] <de-facto> DeskCon did that over a encrypted (certs) link via the share menu
[13:20] <georgeowell_> Yeh, the link thing is a super drag for me right now.
[13:20] <georgeowell_> not so bothered about notifications
[13:24] <georgeowell_> KDE connect is deffo what you need to get working
[13:24] <georgeowell_> I've seen people using it on gnome
[13:42] <de-facto> hmmm it seems that would require to install half of a kde desktop environment alongside with it, then i also could just go ahead and use Kubuntu instead :-(
[13:44] <de-facto> i cant believe there is no more native gnome way to do this since the gnome desktop is popular as well as android
[14:42] <LinDol> hi all
[14:42] <LinDol> i was home now. hahaha after working.
[16:09] <Olotila> I cannot right-click and "open in terminal", because folder is full of files
[16:10] <Olotila> so how do I easily get to terminal in that (Nautilus) folder?
[16:24] <de-facto> Olotila why cant you click "open in terminal" on that folder? can you be more specific?
[16:24] <Olotila> it is full of files
[16:25] <Olotila> my click "hits" a file, and gives a different menu
[16:25] <de-facto> you need to right click that on the folder itself
[16:25] <de-facto> not on file
[16:25] <Olotila> the Open in terminal appears, if I click in empty part of the folder
[16:25] <de-facto> no one level above the content of the folder
[16:26] <de-facto> so if you want a terminal on /path/to/folder you need to be in /path/to and right click on "folder"
[16:26] <Olotila> clicking folder gives "open in new window", new tab, properties
[16:27] <de-facto> in nautilus?
[16:27] <Olotila> yes
[16:27] <Olotila> on top
[16:27] <Olotila> on left open folder is not visible
[16:27] <Olotila> only default folders Recent, Home, Documents ...
[16:28] <de-facto> on the folder itself or even on background in symbol view
[16:28] <de-facto> works on 16.04 for me
[16:29] <Olotila> I think  I have the list view
[16:29] <de-facto> then use the symbol view (that matrix dots)
[16:29] <de-facto> there you can click on background for example inside that folder, or click on folder directly (one level above)
[16:30] <de-facto> ofc it would not work if you click on a file instead
[16:30] <de-facto> right click that is always
[16:31] <Olotila> ok so there actually is no way to click Open in terminal, if I am in listview and seeing only files?
[16:31] <Olotila> the Files -menu above (Gnome 3.20) gives no Open in terminal either
[16:31] <de-facto> you can do that in list view too, but you have to right click on that folder
[16:32] <de-facto> Gnome 3.20?
[16:32] <Olotila> yeah
[16:33] <de-facto> on 16.04 its nautilus 3.14.3
[16:33] <de-facto> how come you are on Gnome 3.20?
[16:33] <Olotila> so I have to change view or go up one folder?
[16:33] <Olotila> I updated it via their own PPA
[16:33] <de-facto> yeah or find a empty space where you can right click on background on folder (also in list view)
[16:34] <Olotila> where in list view?
[16:34] <de-facto> under the list (where the empty bg is)
[16:34] <Olotila> the file "bar" fills the space
[16:34] <Olotila> full rectangle, from left to right
[16:35] <de-facto> yeah i guess if you have that many files then you have to either change in symbol view or go one level above
[16:35] <Olotila> empty "bg"?
[16:35] <Olotila> ok
[16:35] <de-facto> background
[16:35] <Olotila> yeah
[16:35] <Olotila> so also, can I drag with mouse to select multiple items?
[16:36] <Olotila> I bet not
[16:37] <de-facto> holding Ctrl and left click you can select multiple (but not drag i guess)
[16:37] <Olotila> yeah
[16:38] <de-facto> ctrl shift I "inverts" your selection
[16:38] <de-facto> so if you want almost all files you could do "ctrl + A" then hold Ctrl and deselect
[16:38] <Olotila> yeah
[16:38] <de-facto> for example
[16:39] <Olotila> other "file explorer" gui's available?
[16:39] <Olotila> other than Nautilus?
[16:40] <de-facto> yeah many i guess, but Nautilus is pretty powerfull once you got used to it
[16:40] <Olotila> well, it is, but it could be even better
[16:40] <de-facto> you can even use it for remote file systems with "smb://windows/share" or "ssh://linux/share" and such
[16:40] <Olotila> like backspace for "folder up"
[16:41] <Olotila> mouse drag for selecting
[16:41] <de-facto> or connect an android phone to it and get its internal storage via MTP
[16:41] <Olotila> easy way to get path as text, to be copied
[16:41] <de-facto> yeah you can do custom key bindings of course
[16:41] <de-facto> ctrl + L
[16:41] <de-facto> that shows you the path in text mode in the address bar of nautilus
[16:42] <Olotila> it has improvet, I think, like previously it changed the timestamp of photos to time of the copying
[16:42] <Olotila> messed up lots of my photos
[16:42] <Olotila> thanks, I'll remember Ctrl L
[16:42] <Olotila> for List, or what could it be?
[16:44] <de-facto> there are many keyboard shortcuts for example Alt + Up for going one level upwards
[16:45] <Olotila> Alt Up needs two hands
[16:45] <de-facto> Ctrl +1  and Ctrl + 2 for the views
[16:45] <Olotila> I usually have one hand in mouse and other in kb
[16:45] <Olotila> Backspace is way easier
[16:45] <Olotila> how can I change the bindings?
[16:46] <de-facto> you can mess with it maybe in  ~/.config/nautilus/accels
[16:46] <de-facto> but make a backup before and be carefull
[16:49] <de-facto> i guess you have to killall nautilus and reopen it when you changed something in there
[16:49] <de-facto> never tried it myself
[17:05] <Olotila> how do I install programs from git?
[17:06] <Olotila> https://github.com/vitaut/captain-nemo
[17:43] <de-facto> i dont think that would work on 3.20
[18:58] <Olotila> ok, but how do you install programs from git in general?
[18:58] <Olotila> Google only gives guides how to install git to ubuntu
[18:58] <Olotila> when I search:
[18:58] <Olotila> install git programs in ubuntu
[18:59] <Olotila> all I get is how to install git itself to ubuntu
[18:59] <Olotila> or search ... to ubuntu
[19:19] <shubham_> is g++ installed in ubuntu gnome 16.04>
[19:19] <shubham_> ?
[19:20] <shubham_> kipd: is g++ installed in ubuntu gnome 16.04?
[19:22] <shubham_> ?
[19:22] <shubham_> ?
[19:22] <shubham_> ?
[19:23] <kipd> I personally don't recall if g++ is installed by default in 16.04, but it's just a short package install away.
[19:23] <shubham_> i was trying without installing and found that gcc is installed but g++ is not
[19:23] <shubham_> though it was preinstalled in ubuntu 14.04
[19:24] <shubham_> i want to switch to ubuntu gnome 16.04 but just want to be sure that all the softwares that i need is present there
[19:25] <kipd> Whatever software isn't present can usually being installed with apt-get on the command line or Synaptic/Software Center in the Gnome Desktop
[19:27] <shubham_> ok thanks. i did install g++ just now and it's working.
[19:27] <kipd> Excellent, enjoy your day.
[19:27] <shubham_> what's your opinion- should i switch to 16.04?
[19:27] <shubham_> i am not a seasoned linux user. been using it only for the last 4 months.
[19:28] <shubham_> am an undergraduate student studying computer science engineering in my university
[19:29] <kipd> It's up to you.  14.04 isn't that old and came with Gnome by default.  16.04 comes with Unity instead.
[19:30] <shubham_> yeah, but i really like the gnome look in 16.04.
[19:30] <kipd> Sounds like you have your answer then.
[19:30] <kipd> There's really no drawback to using the more current 16.04 for you then.
[19:30] <shubham_> Plus i have been using unity for 4 months now, and gnome looks like a fresh change.
[19:30] <shubham_> thanks for the advice.
[19:31] <kipd> Cheers
[19:43] <de-facto> Olotila well it depends on how you want to maintain your system i guess: you can install git then "git clone ..." but then you would need a "debian" directory with the package files inside that for backing a .deb out of it (and install that with gdebi or such). I mean you also can do "sudo make install" but then the package manager would not keep track of the files it spreads on your system (wich i really dont like).
[19:44] <de-facto> if you have a "debian" directory for a project you can go inside your project folder (which contains that "debian" folder) and to "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us" to build a deb package one level above
[19:45] <de-facto> the nice thing about ubuntu is that you can find many, really many software with a debian folder on some PPAs
[19:47] <de-facto> without it the usual way would be "./configure --prefix=/opt" "make" and "sudo make install" or such (depends on what make system the developer prefered)
[20:13] <Olotila> yeah, git seems like a mess from users point of view
[20:13] <Olotila> more folders to back up
[23:44] <LinDol> hi all
[23:45] <georgeowell> heya
[23:49] <LinDol> georgeowell, hi :)