[15:03] <arrrghhh> oh hey there is a room for mythbuntu.  So I installed 14.04 a while ago and never managed to get it setup.  So I wiped the zotac box today I am planning on deploying as a FE only, and after installation I can't configure anything
[15:03] <arrrghhh> the wizard just crashes over and over.  it was a bit of a pain to get at the logs, but I eventually found that it's trying to connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 as the BE.  I never configured the BE, never even got the chance... shouldn't that initial wizard allow me to fill that out?
[15:04] <tgm4883> arrrghhh: IIRC, there is a bug in 0.28 for that
[15:04] <arrrghhh> I select language and region, hit save, and it crashes/restarts
[15:04] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, so what do I need to do to get this thing configured?  is there a config file somewhere to modify?
[15:04] <tgm4883> arrrghhh: yea, this is just a standard mythbuntu FE install?
[15:04] <arrrghhh> I installed 16.04 just realized I didn't mention that
[15:04] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, yep.  completely vanilla FE only
[15:05] <tgm4883> arrrghhh: so you should just need to edit /etc/mythtv/config.xml and fill in teh connection credentials
[15:05] <arrrghhh> lol ok
[15:05] <tgm4883> technically, it's ~/.mythtv/config.xml but that should be symlinked back to /etc/mythtv/config.xml
[15:05] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, should this have been obvious to me, or is the system just setup to assume the BE is on the same box as the FE?
[15:06] <tgm4883> arrrghhh: well no, the frontend should let you put in the credentials
[15:06] <tgm4883> but like I said, some upstream bug
[15:07] <tgm4883> Most users do have a single FE/BE box, so it's only seen by a fraction of users
[15:09] <arrrghhh> oh really
[15:09] <arrrghhh> I didn't realize the fe/be in the same box was the norm
[15:09] <arrrghhh> I guess I could set that up, but the FE doesn't have much HP or storage (on purpose)
[15:09] <tgm4883> yep
[15:09] <tgm4883> no, it's a perfectly valid configuration
[15:10] <tgm4883> it's how I'm setup
[15:10] <tgm4883> it's just most users only have a single mythtv box
[15:10] <arrrghhh> yea makes sense you build the system geared towards the majority
[15:10] <tgm4883> 68% have a single box
[15:11] <arrrghhh> lol nice
[15:11] <arrrghhh> I like the exact percentage of the userbase ;)
[15:11] <tgm4883> I grab stats when I can :)
[15:12] <tgm4883> 29.9% have 2 boxes
[15:12] <arrrghhh> haha
[15:13] <tgm4883> so yea, it makes sense to gear it toward a single system setup, but it still should be asking you for credentials and backend location
[15:14] <tgm4883> also, 100% not kidding on those stats
[15:18] <arrrghhh> I know you're not
[15:18] <arrrghhh> and yea makes sense but also agreed there needs to be a way to enter that stuff in the wizard
[15:18] <arrrghhh> alright haxed config file.  now let's see what we get
[15:19] <arrrghhh> s/we/me/
[15:19] <arrrghhh> hm.  still crashes, let's peek at the log
[15:19] <arrrghhh> ssh makes this way easier
[15:20] <arrrghhh> hm still trying to connect to localhost... let me look at the config file in home
[15:21] <arrrghhh> the plot thickens
[15:22] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, config file looks right in both places, but the FE logs still indicate it's connecting to localhost...
[15:23] <tgm4883> hmm
[15:23] <arrrghhh>  mythtv-settings does not contain the proper IP address
[15:23] <arrrghhh> do I need to run that from the cli?
[15:23] <tgm4883> mythtv-setup?
[15:23] <arrrghhh> that's on the BE tho
[15:23] <tgm4883> yea
[15:23] <tgm4883> that is the backend
[15:23] <arrrghhh> I just copied that line out of the FE log
[15:24] <tgm4883> on your backend, what IP address is it using?
[15:24] <arrrghhh> mythtv-settings doesn't seem to be valid
[15:24] <tgm4883> 127.0.0.1?
[15:24] <arrrghhh> 192.168.0.99
[15:24] <arrrghhh> no that didn't work
[15:24] <arrrghhh> I have other FE's connecting in just fine
[15:24] <arrrghhh> they are running Kodi, but should be the same concept I think
[15:25] <tgm4883> yea they should be the same
[15:25] <tgm4883> so FE problem it sounds like
[15:25] <tgm4883> can you post your ~/.mythtv/config.xml file?
[15:25] <tgm4883> you can blank out the password if you want
[15:25] <arrrghhh> sure 1 sec
[15:26] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, http://hastebin.com/ribovagiko.xml
[15:26] <arrrghhh> I can ping 192.168.0.99 as well haha
[15:27] <tgm4883> wait is your username really root on the DB?
[15:27] <arrrghhh> yea
[15:27] <tgm4883> from your frontend, does 'mysql -u root -p mythconverg' work?
[15:28] <arrrghhh> looks like it's trying to connect to the local mysql
[15:28] <arrrghhh> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[15:28] <tgm4883> bah hold one
[15:28] <tgm4883> from your frontend, does 'mysql -h 192.168.0.99 -u root -p mythconverg' work?
[15:29] <arrrghhh> oops helps if I use the right psw
[15:29] <arrrghhh> hm.  still getting access denied
[15:29] <arrrghhh> let me doublecheck that user/pass on the BE itself...
[15:31] <arrrghhh> works locally
[15:31] <arrrghhh> I am not blocking 3306...... the heck
[15:31] <arrrghhh> is there something within mysql that would prevent remote connections?
[15:31] <arrrghhh> GRANT ALL ON hmmm
[15:32] <arrrghhh> let me try this
[15:33] <arrrghhh> ah
[15:33] <arrrghhh> now workie
[15:33] <arrrghhh> let me try the FE
[15:36] <arrrghhh> fffff
[15:38] <arrrghhh> oh crap.
[15:38] <arrrghhh> Protocol version or token mismatch
[15:38] <arrrghhh> I think my BE is too old for this FE :(
[15:39] <tgm4883> they both need to be 0.28
[15:39] <arrrghhh> yea... I had issues with the .28 web ui
[15:39] <arrrghhh> so I went back to .27
[15:40] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, is there anyway to get this FE to .27?  I want a stable mythtv setup, .28 was not that unfortunately (I assume it's still the case too)
[15:43] <Shadow__X> i upgraded from .27 to .28 through mythbuntu repo and it was stable
[15:43] <Shadow__X> not sure what you were seeing
[15:43] <arrrghhh> Shadow__X, I originally deployed .28 to my BE a while ago
[15:43] <arrrghhh> had some issues with commflag, and the webui was really broken.  It was suggested I use .27 as .28 was not stable yet
[15:44] <Shadow__X> whats a while ago? it was just recently released, sounds like you were running the beta
[15:44] <arrrghhh> I was
[15:44] <arrrghhh> I didn't realize it at first... lol.  But I was.
[15:45] <arrrghhh> so the webUI and commflag works now?
[15:49] <tgm4883> commflag works for me
[15:49] <tgm4883> The web frontend isn't complete, but mythweb is still available
[15:49] <arrrghhh> ah maybe that was my issue
[15:50] <arrrghhh> I was trying to use the 'new' webui, I didn't realize I could add mythweb ontop of .28
[15:51] <arrrghhh> alright updating the BE to .28
[16:04] <arrrghhh> chit
[16:04] <arrrghhh> I wonder if i have to purge .27 first... ugh
[16:04] <arrrghhh> I just wanted to use an official myth FE to see if commercial skipping worked better lol
[16:15] <arrrghhh> ok I am having a serious case of the dumb
[16:15] <arrrghhh> I have the FE working now...
[16:15] <arrrghhh> but there's no audio.  I can't even find where to configure it?  Pulse/alsa/nothing...?
[16:17] <arrrghhh> I found alsamixer... hm.  this zotac box may be an issue
[16:22] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, how do I configure audio?!
[16:23] <tgm4883> in the mythfrontend there is an audio section that lets you scan for devices
[16:23] <arrrghhh> ohhh ok
[16:31] <arrrghhh> damn there's a lot of devices.
[16:38] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, so what is required to setup mythmote?  I installed the app and pointed it to the IP... there shouldn't be any firewalls here...?
[16:38] <arrrghhh> ufw status says inactive
[16:38] <tgm4883> IDK, I don't use mythmote. Do you have a PIN setup?
[16:39] <arrrghhh> well I'd love to use my harmony, but I figured that would be more involved
[16:39] <arrrghhh> I'll get to that in due time haha
[16:39] <arrrghhh> there's no PIN in the app that I can see...
[16:40] <arrrghhh> just name, IP, port and MAC
[16:40] <arrrghhh> I hope MAC isn't required
[16:40] <arrrghhh> I guess I can grab that...
[16:40] <arrrghhh> netstat -al |grep 6546 shows nothing on the FE so I think there is something else needed to enable that
[16:41] <tgm4883> PIN would be set in the frontend I think
[16:41] <tgm4883> or maybe the backend
[16:41] <tgm4883> IDK
[16:46] <arrrghhh> ugh
[16:46] <arrrghhh> this zotac is proving to be more involved than I had hoped
[16:46] <arrrghhh> we had audio, but not surround.  now I can't get anything out of it lol
[16:49] <arrrghhh> yay audio with surround!
[16:49] <arrrghhh> alright now time to figure out the remote situation.  thanks for the help tgm4883 I think it's all config from here on out
[18:00] <arrrghhh> tgm4883, question... about video library?  https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_Library - it talks about using storage groups which do not require nfs/samba mounts... it doesn't make a difference to me, which is preferred now?
[18:01] <tgm4883> storage groups
[18:01] <arrrghhh> so that's configured on the BE right?
[18:01] <tgm4883> yea
[18:02] <arrrghhh> ah yea I should read down
[18:02] <arrrghhh> lol
[18:02] <arrrghhh> thanks...
[18:29] <arrrghhh> so this might be sacrilege to ask in here... but can I run Kodi in parallel?  I like its interface better for managing files... or maybe I'm missing something with the storage group setup haha
[18:43] <bonelifer> arrrghhh: sure
[18:49] <bonelifer> arrrghhh: I have a system Xubuntu system, I've installed and setup like that. I just use it mythjobqueue for metadata. The frontend isn't set to run automatically. Besides, when you install Kodi via it's PPA, it'll create an account of it's own seperate from your current one, called kodi. So logout of kodi and you're at a login screen. where you can select your regular session and then login.  use method 6 on this page to autostart into
[18:49] <bonelifer>  Kodi, http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Autostart_Kodi_for_Linux#Use_autologin_feature_of_lightdm  just make sure to disable autostart in myth-control-centre for mythfrontend.
[19:32] <arrrghhh> bonelifer, so you don't use the myth FE?
[19:32] <arrrghhh> I was using a plugin for kodi to connect to the myth BE
[21:27] <bonelifer> arrrghhh: no. I only use it to manually edit commercials. then use a userjob to send the file through handbrakecli
[21:28] <bonelifer> I watch livetv, using the DLNA streams from my HDHomeRun Connect in Kodi with a EPG plugin.