/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/29/#ubuntu-ops.txt

bazhang<NIX> where would you go to talk to canonical employees?00:13
bazhang#HURD00:13
IdleOneThe tavern00:15
IdleOne/bar/pub00:15
geniiheh, bazhang00:17
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ubottutotem called the ops in #ubuntu (allahuakbar)04:12
ubottusomsip called the ops in #ubuntu ()04:12
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dax07:05 < dchapman> dax: Ah, I was using the -d switch. Mystery solved.07:06
daxugh07:06
daxcan they just, like, rename -d to --devel and add a --i-dont-want-devel-i-just-want-the-latest-lts option07:07
daxi am so tired of people not knowing what -d does07:07
daxevery. single. release.07:07
daxyet another reason update-manager is ridiculous and Debian does this better07:07
Unit193update-manager cleans up after upgrade.07:08
daxi could go with "maybe people shouldn't break crap in the first place", but then we'll end up disagreeing about PPAs or something07:08
daxor about how ridiculous metapackage behavior is by default these days, since it messes with that too07:09
Unit193Eh, I'm not the most fond of metapackages, they do weird things.  I like tasks.  I didn't disagree about update-manager, though yes I do (most of the time) use it to release jump. :P07:11
daxthey used to be significantly less weird before some dingus decided that removing them should mark their dependants as manually installed07:11
daxanyway07:11
daxit's bed time07:11
* dax flies away07:11
Unit193I looked to file a bug for lts-to-lts jumping, there were already some related that could likely have been co-opted.07:12
k1lwhen did #ubuntu turn into ##windows with everyone just telling to reinstall?09:46
hep7hello11:14
ubottuIn #ubuntu, kalamsa said: ubottu you think prayer is a joke?11:44
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k1l[zrkadlo] (~zrkadlo@185.25.248.171): realname  and [mohg] (~mohg@185.25.248.171): realname  both doing the "yo guys, what is grub" game18:45
bazhangsockenpupets?18:46
bazhangor just classmates18:47
k1lsomething is dubious18:48

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