[00:17] <muka> Would Meizu PRO 5 work on Tmobile US 3G or 4G network?
[00:19] <muka> and is it available in black or silver. I do not like gold color.
[00:21] <troyready> muka: I heard that the band support is not great for us t-mobile folks but I don't know specifics
[00:49] <swalladge> is it possible to change the keyboard layout to dvorak on ubuntu touch?
[02:03] <dobey> mariogrip: neat
[02:55] <troyready> swalladge:
[02:55] <troyready> swalladge: I don't think so
[02:55] <semajnz> You can for external keyboards
[02:55] <semajnz> Not the on-screen one
[03:46] <swalladge> semajnz: oh where would i look for settings on external keyboards?
[03:47] <semajnz> Uhh
[03:47] <swalladge> i couldn't find anything about changing layouts
[03:47] <swalladge> aha found it
[03:47] <swalladge> sorry
[03:48] <semajnz> System Settings -> Language & Text -> External Keyboard
[03:48] <semajnz> Only appears when you have an external keyboard connected
[03:53] <swalladge> hmm it doesn't seem to be changing the keymap on something like libreoffice
[03:54] <duflu> swalladge: Keymap changes for Xmir is something being fixed in OTA-11
[03:54] <duflu> coming soon
[03:54] <swalladge> ah cool
[03:56] <duflu> swalladge: I'm not too familiar with the subject myself. Can you confirm Touch's native apps handle it better?
[03:57] <swalladge> yep
[03:57] <duflu> swalladge: Cool thanks. You can track the issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1566487
[03:58] <swalladge> first time using a ubuntu touch device by the way - just got a M10 today :D
[03:58] <duflu> swalladge: I haven't tried the M10 myself but have been told OTA-11 will noticeably improve its performance too
[03:58] <duflu> I have seen the code changes, but not been able to try it for myself
[03:59] <swalladge> nice
[03:59] <swalladge> is there a roadmap or rss feed or something i can follow for info?
[04:00] <duflu> Let me see
[04:01] <duflu> swalladge: I can only recommend browse through: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[04:03] <swalladge> ok thanks :)
[04:04] <duflu> swalladge: There is also a public mailing list. You might have to join this team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
[04:05] <duflu> Which is just a group for users. Not developers
[06:52] <swalladge> what exactly is developer mode on ubuntu touch? it has a pretty scary warning..
[06:55] <duflu> swalladge: Developer mode allows any computer with a USB connection to be used to log in and change things
[06:55] <duflu> via Android's 'adb' tool
[06:55] <duflu> Normally that's not allowed
[07:25] <ShR3K> Hi ! Is it possible to do this on ubuntu touch : https://thepcspy.com/read/converting-ubuntu-desktop-to-kiosk/
[07:26] <Oneuser> Hi all i need to change the sms center number on my e4.5 is there a way to do that on ubuntu phone?
[08:33] <zzarr> hello!
[08:33] <zzarr> will there be support for widgets on Ubuntu-Touch?
[08:34] <zzarr> I just thought of how nice it would be with a widget scope
[08:35] <zzarr> having a Dekko widget with mail, calendar widget and g+/fb/twitter or something
[08:39] <davmor2> zzarr: there already kinda is, on the today scope you can already see twitter feed, news, weather, upcoming event, last calls texts and telegrams etc
[08:39] <zzarr> okey, didn't know that
[08:49] <AuroraAvenue> mariogrip: ping
[09:25] <yang> what is the feedback on aquaris m10 ? is the interface working ?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> yang: there are youtube reviews and unpacking video's to watch already
[09:38] <yang> ok i am gonna check those
[09:52] <jgdx> seb128, hey, did you see my email?
[09:52] <seb128> hey jgdx
[09:52] <seb128> jgdx, yeah, I just have that open in firefox
[09:52] <jgdx> cool
[09:53] <seb128> it doesn't make any sense to me why allowing the inactive session would lead to more auth to be requested
[09:53] <seb128> is that a regression?
[09:53] <seb128> in what serie?
[10:02] <jgdx> seb128, OTA10.1 so vivid+overlay which is probably the same as xenial
[10:12] <voobscout> Greetings, gentle beings! Can someone tell me how to modify fstab inside lxc-android container? I would like to mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /userdata, instead of the internal storage
[10:35] <mardy> tvoss: I resurrected https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/old-location-1551686/+merge/293075 , for when you have some time :-)
[11:05] <melvster> did someone say they ssh'd to their touch device?  if so, any hints on how?
[11:05] <melvster> (as opposed to adb)
[11:07] <melvster> oh sudo service start ssh ... that was easy! :)
[11:07] <melvster> and I just log in as phablet?
[11:09] <davmor2> melvster: it is better if you plug it into you ubuntu pc and type phablet-shell that will enable ssh and setup key exchanges and then you can just ssh to it's ip address from that machine
[11:11] <melvster> davmor2: thanks! I was using adb shell before but it sometimes gives me terminal problems, so I wanted to switch to ssh
[11:12] <melvster> getting more and more excited about ubuntu touch, just ordered my slimport hdmi adaptor and bluetooth keyboard to try out convergence
[11:15] <davmor2> melvster: what device do you have?
[11:15] <melvster> davmor2: nexus4 but i almost ordered an m10 ... however 10 day delivery to where I am and I may be on holiday by then
[11:16] <seb128> jgdx, sorry, was distracted by other work
[11:16] <davmor2> melvster: I was just checking that the slimport would work or not :) it does on the n4 :)
[11:16] <seb128> jgdx, did that ever work on the phone?
[11:16] <melvster> phew, yeah I watched a video and it said it the product description too ... but you never know till you try ...
[11:18] <ogra_> melvster, if you want it permanent: android-gadget-service enable ssh ... sudo service start ssh  is a one time thing (gone after reboot)
[11:18] <jgdx> seb128, yes
[11:27] <seb128> jgdx, how do you start it? my understanding is that it should work if you start it from the shell but not if you do it from adb/gdb
[11:27] <seb128> gdb->ssh
[11:29] <jgdx> seb128, the user reported seeing the auth failure in the system settings log, so that's the accountsservice plugin which uses dbus
[11:30] <seb128> jgdx, does he start settings from the dash?
[11:32] <seb128> jgdx, do you see the error on your device?
[11:36] <melvster> ogra_: thanks!
[11:36] <jgdx> seb128, no, and I think that clears it up
[11:36] <jgdx> I'll ask him how he starts system settings
[11:37] <seb128> k, keep me updated
[11:38] <jgdx> seb128, thx for clearing that up
[11:38] <seb128> yw!
[11:56] <matv1> kyleN ping
[12:35] <kyleN> hi matv1
[12:38] <matv1> oh hi kyleN
[12:38] <matv1> kyleN you may remember ogra_ and dobey pointed you out ysterday as the man to see about the songkick source code
[12:39] <matv1> the scope I mean
[12:39] <kyleN> matv1, well I may be able to help find it :)
[12:39] <kyleN> matv1, what is your interest?
[12:41] <matv1> disregarding the current problems with scopes and location, I love the concept of the songkick scope. But I thought it would be much more usefull when one is able to add locations manually instead of just your current physical location
[12:41] <matv1> I would thank that shouldnt be that heard to add
[12:44] <matv1> usecase: I am in my home in nymegen (netherlands) right now. But I know i am going to be in amsterdam tonight and want to see about gigs there. With the current scope, I cant do that until I actualy get there
[12:46] <matv1> thats about it. I was thinking If the scope wont allow user input that way (because of being scopey) I could maybe reuse most of the code to do an app that did have that feature
[12:52] <kyleN> matv1, just a minute
[12:53] <matv1> kyleN no rush at all :)
[12:54] <matv1> kyleN oh now I notice that the Scope is published as propriatery. What does that mean wrt community(which I guess is me) colaboration?
[12:56] <kyleN> matv1, the concept of picking and using a location to run a scope may have more general applicability. I was thinking for example about the timeout scope. of the Yelp scope.
[12:57] <matv1> kyleN ah well. that would make it even easier :)
[12:57] <kyleN> maybe we need a premade location-picker filter widget tha any scope can use
[12:58] <kyleN> matv1, the properiary thing is really just an artifact of history. let me explain.
[12:58] <kyleN> most scopes started in a  private launchpad project that was created very early on
[12:58] <kyleN> we are trying to move them into public projects though.
[12:59] <matv1> kyleN I see that is great to hear. As well as your idea of a general purpose location picker
[13:00] <kyleN> matv1, in order to raise this issue, perhaps I can ask your help.
[13:00] <matv1> I am not sure I could be of much help in that regard though. I assume it would it means developing a component right?
[13:00] <kyleN> matv1, can you file a bug against canonical-scopes-project that lists a few scopes that would benefit from a location picker
[13:01] <matv1> kyleN That I can certainly do yes
[13:01] <kyleN> I'll comment and add a task for design review
[13:02] <matv1> i will ping you when the lp bug is there. So no need to also do a bug against UX or UI ?
[13:02] <kyleN> you can add UX too if you want. if you don't I will
[13:03] <matv1> kyleN cool. I will notify you soon. Thanks a lot!
[13:04] <kyleN> awesome
[14:10] <EdwardMorbius> hello. I have a quick question about bluetooth file sharing with other phones, is that planned anytime soon?
[14:18] <pmcgowan> EdwardMorbius, we are working on it yes, not this next update but hopefully soon
[14:19] <ogra_> pmcgowan, didnt we have that working once ?
[14:19] <EdwardMorbius> pmcgowan so OTA-12 or beyond
[14:19] <pmcgowan> ogra_, from command line prolly
[14:19]  * ogra_ remembers rsalveti had ... when we seeded obex to the images ... must be ages ago though+
[14:19] <pmcgowan> yes
[14:19] <ogra_> ah, yeah, that could be
[14:20] <pmcgowan> the daemon is in there now
[14:20] <pmcgowan> we use it for car phonebook
[14:20] <pmcgowan> just need ui now
[14:20] <ogra_> ah
[14:20] <rsalveti> yeah, it was working, just not exposed in the ui
[14:20] <pmcgowan> hey a voice from the past
[14:20]  * ogra_ finally ordered a turbo ... 
[14:20] <EdwardMorbius> thanks for the information :)
[14:20] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: o/
[14:21] <ogra_> only took three days :P
[14:21] <ogra_> silly broken store
[14:22] <matv1> ogra_ is there a choice of color now?
[14:22] <ogra_> gold, gold and .... gold
[14:22] <ogra_> :(
[14:23] <ogra_> but at least ordering from germany finally works
[14:23] <ogra_> without "the store is busy now" messages
[14:25] <matv1> ogra_ cool i am still thinking about it. golden doesnt increase attractivity for me
[14:25] <matv1> the days when i thought a gold phone would turn me into james  bond are well behind me now :)
[14:25] <ogra_> you could get some rainbow earrings and a scarf along with it ... then it doesnt stand out so much :P
[14:25] <matv1> hahaha
[14:26] <matv1> but my second nexus 4 is also on its last legs so i need something
[14:27] <ogra_> i'm pretty sure it is an awesome device ... perhaps one can paint it or some such
[14:28] <matv1> ogra_ yes i just have some doubts about miracast. even if it does materialize. wont it always be soemwhat laggy :( ??
[14:28] <ogra_> i dont plan to use it
[14:28] <ogra_> i got an M10 for such stuff
[14:28] <matv1> ogra_ aarrrgh
[14:29] <matv1> you dont carry your m10 around all the time do you?
[14:29]  * ogra_ cant belive that "painting cellphone" only revelas DYI guides 
[14:29] <ogra_> there must be companies that offer this
[14:30] <ogra_> *DIY
[14:30] <dobey> heh
[14:30] <matv1> i am going to set one up. just for meizu pro 5 and just orange
[14:30] <matv1> i will be rich!
[14:30] <dobey> "you can have any color phone you like, so long as you like gold"
[14:31] <matv1> question: could anyone imagine going back to android ? i cant really. i keep making so many geasture mistakes when i use android lately
[14:32] <ogra_> i havent touched android in over a year now
[14:32] <dobey> android 6 totally killed contacts privacy
[14:33] <Smurphy> I'll be receiving one for work. We need OTP generator for work. Won't run on ubuntu-touch :(
[14:33] <dobey> Smurphy: google authenticator?
[14:33] <Smurphy> dobey: No. Company own stuff. They have it foir Android, IOS and Windows phone :(
[14:33] <Smurphy> Hate it.
[14:34] <dobey> oh
[14:34] <dobey> write an app for ubuntu for it :)
[14:34] <Smurphy> I'll see if I can install at least cyanogen-mod on the Galaxy S7 - if not, there will be only work stuff on it.
[14:34] <dobey> or submit a patch to the authenticator app
[14:34] <Smurphy> I'm not that good at writing OO code. I am good with C or PHP scripting, but all the OO stuff - I simply never understood the advantage of it.
[14:35] <Smurphy> It makes code unreadable and complex - best part for security issues and code injections no one will ever find out but looking at the code.
[14:35] <dobey> not really, but *shrug*
[14:36] <Smurphy> yeah *shrug*
[14:36] <Smurphy> I got a BQ 4.5 - and use it work work and private use (2 SIM Cards). Will have to change that.
[14:37] <matv1> Smurphy thats a drag. going  back to carying around 2 phones
[14:37] <Smurphy> matv1: Well - I look at it from the bright side. I work almost all the time from home. So it's fine. I just leave the work-phone here.
[14:38] <Smurphy> Or - anyone here thought about porting ubunt-touch to the Samsung Galaxy 7S ? :D
[14:43] <matv1> at least the  Samsung Galaxy 7S is available gold AND pink-gold.. AWSUMM
[14:44] <Smurphy> I have no idea which version they ordered me.
[14:44] <Smurphy> But I bet if I receive the PInk version, my daughters will fight for it *rofl*
[14:44] <matv1> heh
[15:02] <linmob> EdwardMorbius: There is an app for bluetooth file sharing in OpenStore
[15:35] <bluenemo> hi guys. I bought a aquaris e5 with ubuntu some time ago. When I receive SMS, the display starts turning on and off making it impossible to read the sms. It is not possible to reliably interrupt the flashing. How do I disable flashing screen on new messages
[16:27] <johnthedoe> Hi there, I have a problem with the music app
[16:28] <johnthedoe> it crashes right after I open it, and I can't find any log file for it
[16:28] <ogra_> logs should be in ~/.cache/upstart/
[16:30] <johnthedoe> ls ~/.cache/upstart | grep music outputs nothing
[16:30] <johnthedoe> ota 10.1, bq e4.5
[16:32] <johnthedoe> any clue ogra_?
[16:33] <ogra_> not really, no
[16:37] <dobey> johnthedoe: is there a crash file in /var/crash/ for it?
[16:37] <johnthedoe> checking
[16:38] <johnthedoe> that directory is empty
[16:40] <johnthedoe> dobey ^
[16:47] <dobey> ah, doh
[16:52] <bluenemo> nobody got an idea how to disable the flashing screen on new messages?
[16:52] <ogra_> sounds like a bug ... are you up to date with the latest OTA ?
[21:45] <saavento> Working on the road just with the M10
[21:45] <saavento> let's see!
[22:06] <ogra_> brave :)
[22:09] <dan_> hello?
[22:10] <dan_> does ubuntu touch work for nexus 7 tablet?
[22:22] <dobey> Guest61720: which nexus 7 tablet?
[22:30] <Guest61720> private msg me dobey.
[22:30] <Guest61720> :)
[22:30] <dobey> no :)
[22:31] <dobey> nexus 7 2012 (grouper) is not supported. nexus 7 2013 wifi (flo) has images available on the official image server, and nexus 7 2013 lte (deb) has images available on ubports server
[23:21] <mariogrip> arrr, code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com is down....