=== aaron is now known as Guest30696 === Guest30696 is now known as ahoneybun [03:14] woot well have the clones and checkouts working. now for the push to LP. and learning ruby to boot haha [04:03] woooooooo! Good on you sgclark! [04:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/attica [04:07] push working :) now to unleash on all frameworks [04:11] weeeeeee [04:13] so git is now on LP? [04:14] not just git, but OUR git [04:15] sweet! [04:17] well not quite. it worked on single repo but went boom on list. debugging. [04:17] I am just learning ruby doing this :) [04:17] :) [04:27] sitter and shadeslayer are both ruby lovers [04:37] ok now pushing frameworks including tags [04:38] I will let clivejo clean up as he wanted everything lol [04:39] lol [04:44] XD [04:44] almost 1am here .. [04:50] oh valorie looks like we are in the clear, no walking papers and they were suppose to be notified by today. [04:50] excellent [04:51] pretty bad for 12,000 people though [04:51] no kidding [04:51] very scary [04:51] {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}} [04:51] a little to close for comfort. So I still need to re-evaluate my career lol [04:52] ut hey I now can tack on ruby to my skillset! [04:52] indeed! [04:52] * sgclark pats herself on the back [04:52] * ahoneybun hugs sgclark [04:53] how far does this move get us to our goal of "fix dev"? [04:53] well [04:53] it totally breaks CI [04:53] but [04:54] we break the barrior of entry [04:54] CI will need some magic scripting done [04:54] how hard will it be to fix CI [04:54] ? [04:54] you are the "magic scripting" goddess, I think [04:55] from the sounds of it, it will be nasty. We have to write a script that triggers from some website when a commit is made. Dunno. [04:55] Not really, but it does seem that I can figure it out when I try lol [05:26] yofel: clivejo: assuming my internet does not die everything should be in LP git when you wake up. [05:26] I am off to get sleep unlike last night haha. [05:28] sweet dreams, scarlett [05:28] shadeslayer: thanks for the ruby-git hint, worked like a charm. [05:28] ty valorie [07:48] good morning [13:13] hello [13:18] hiyas [13:32] hi sgclark [13:32] could you pastebin the commands you used for git copy? [13:33] hi BluesKaj [13:33] Hey folks [13:33] hi clivejo [13:34] clivejo: I ended up writing an entire ruby script [13:38] do you have them all locally? [13:43] sgclark: do you reckon its just a case of changing the debian url to lp here - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/conf/git-clone-all.json [13:44] I don't know, it failed on kde-spectacle, and I need to fix that, but I am busy fighting with a bug from hell. I have not used any of the new scripts successfully. [13:56] soee_: hows plasma and apps coming along? [14:03] alright spectacle fixed, rest of apps running now [14:05] clivejo: git.launchpad.net:/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/*.git should do the trick [14:05] but apps still uploading [14:05] it failed when I was asleep. fixed now. [14:06] would it be easier for you to create dev aka yak branches as you have them all local ? [14:06] That was my plan yes [14:07] hi, I found a typo on kde.org: "Delivering an Long-Term Release (LTS) release" should probably be ""Delivering a Long Term Support (LTS) release [14:07] ovidiu-florin: ^^ [14:07] sorry, kubuntu.org: http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-lts-release-anouncement [14:08] yofel: if you could check that my repos are sane and what you expect. [14:09] guess our scripts will all need to be adjusted. Not even sure where to start with CI issues [14:09] sbivol: thank you, will let webteam know [14:23] sgclark: any ETA on when you might have a yakkety branch for all packages on LP? [14:24] Im currently trying to hack the staging script to work with LP [14:35] clivejo: the applications are not even switched yet. Patience. [14:38] just barfed on ktp [14:59] whats it barfing over? [14:59] fixed. It is the packages names that do not match repo name. [15:00] isnt there a json file that defines those? [15:00] ie discover =>plasma-discover [15:00] is there? didn't know [15:00] too late now [15:01] do you never use the staging scripts? [15:02] of course I do... [15:02] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/package-name-list [15:02] "discover": "plasma-discover", [15:02] "spectacle": "kde-spectacle", [15:27] sgclark: ping [15:34] soee_: ping [15:36] clivejo: pong [15:36] clivejo: yes? [15:37] soee_: if you have time and want to help can you compare these two lists of frameworks http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.21/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/16150319/ [15:37] sgclark: Im hacking the KA scripts to use LP [15:37] clivejo: only packges names ? [15:38] clivejo: ok? please commit then. [15:38] Ive cloned frameworks locally and wanted to try adding kubuntu_yakkety_archive branch [15:39] soee_: yes, just make sure they are all there [15:39] oh ffs [15:39] please don't touch my frameworks clivejo [15:39] if you want to work on something do plasma [15:39] I am writing a script to create the branches now [15:39] good grief [15:39] what you mean? you are working on xenial backports, no? [15:40] the same work can be applied to yakkety no? [15:40] frameworks are mine, I already did all the hard work [15:40] * clivejo gulps [15:40] sorry [15:53] clivejo: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/30/Screenshot_20160430_175222.png [15:54] middle top columns shows what 5.21 list has and what the second one does not, and bottom center column shows what more more the second list has comapred to 5.21 [15:55] so in 5.21 we have new: kactivities-stats but it does not contain: kdelibs4support, khtml, kjs,kjsembed, kmediaplayer, kross, krunner [15:57] hi [15:57] hiho renee77 [15:59] do you know how telegram works with irc? [15:59] or how to make it work ;-) [16:00] well we have a bot that sends messages irc <-> telegram [16:00] I found that bot [16:00] <@marcinsagol>: This is me writing on telegram :) [16:01] renee77: you dont have to configure enyting [16:01] you just write here or on Telegram channel and that is all, the bot do the communication automatically [16:02] how to write to kubuntu-devel than? [16:02] write from telegram -> here ? [16:03] yes [16:03] renee77: just join 'kubuntu-devel' channel on telegram [16:03] when you ar eon channels lis in telegram click the search icon and type the channel room and join it [16:06] renee77: yuhave the same nick on telegram no ? [16:06] yes I have [16:06] let me catch you [16:06] thank you [16:09] ahoneybun: ping [16:10] <@marcinsagol>: @ovidiuflorin is an invite required to join here? [16:11] <@marcinsagol>: /invite rene77 [16:12] :) renee77 [16:13] <@marcinsagol>: But still it won't work I think [16:13] * ahoneybun stops messing with kdenlive [16:13] yes soee_ [16:13] ahoneybun: can you invite rene77 on Telegram to Kubuntu-devel chan ? [16:13] *renee77 [16:14] I need her username on telegram [16:14] ahoneybun: as i typed above [16:14] same :) [16:15] @Renee77 was added by: @athoneycutt [16:15] <@athoneycutt>: Done [16:15] <@Renee77>: Nice thank you [16:15] np [16:15] thanks ahoneybun [16:15] np lol [16:15] <@Renee77>: 😊 [16:16] now IRC can be closed and I still receive messages? [16:16] <@athoneycutt>: The bot will send IRC messages, yes [16:17] <@Renee77>: Great I think this is easy-to-use [16:17] that's the plan [16:17] thanks for ovidiu-florin [16:18] soee_ how does Tomb Raider work for you? [16:18] <@Renee77>: 😊 also in here? [16:18] ahoneybun: pretty nice :) i think i finish it tomorrow :D [16:18] kinda crap for me tbh [16:18] why ? [16:19] idk I have a little better card on the laptop then the desktop [16:19] and it works better on the desktop [16:20] did you played with the settings ? [16:20] tons [16:20] as in my post - what setting you have for Laras hair ? :D [16:20] even added that ppa driver [16:20] your post? [16:20] normal [16:20] what option you have for Hair quality set ? [16:21] normal [16:21] ah should be fine than :/ [16:21] normal [16:21] what GPU you have ? [16:21] geforce 750m [16:22] than much better than me [16:22] CPU ? [16:22] intel core i7 4th gen [16:22] 8gb ram [16:22] rofl, than it should work pretty nice [16:22] you tried on Linux? [16:23] that's what I'm running it on [16:23] Kubuntu 16.04 [16:23] Win 10 has much lower CPU but a Geforce 650 [16:23] in System Settings -> Display & Monitor -> Copositor -> Suspend compositor for fullscreen windows is checked ? [16:23] no clur [16:23] *e [16:24] :o [16:24] I'm running it in a window though [16:24] please check and check this checkbox :D [16:24] <@Renee77>: if I am correct you can see my pciture now? [16:25] hmm it works nice in window also [16:25] <@marcinsagol>: @renee77 yes :) [16:25] those videos from Sam's cam get stuck sometimes too [16:25] oO [16:26] very odd [16:26] <@Renee77>: great so now I am someone real :D [16:27] ahoneybun: same if you run on default settings ? [16:28] maybe only be sure you have the same screen resolution set as your display uses [16:28] this game just runs so bad [16:28] on my desktop I can keep 30 or so FPS [16:29] here it gets to 10 with simple things [16:29] ahoneybun: something is wrong it shoudl work smoothly [16:29] shadow of mordor had issues too [16:29] same porter [16:29] also im on latest Nvdia driver [16:29] I'm using that graphics PPA with no real jump [16:29] 364.19 [16:30] no clue what I'm on [16:30] type nvidia-settings in krunner [16:30] and see what is shows :) [16:30] yea i know [16:31] 361.42 [16:31] hmm maybe try to upgrade, not sure though if it will result in huge FPS impact [16:31] but always good to try [16:31] I updated yesterday [16:32] just a bad port in opioion [16:32] updated what ? [16:32] drivers ? but you are not on latest version [16:32] the driver of course [16:32] that is what the PPA game me [16:33] Driver Manager does not work anyway [16:33] well: sudo apt install nvidia-364 [16:34] maybe it does not support Bumblebee [16:34] ahoneybun: well i can't say bad thing about the port as it works nice on my laptop tat has lower specs than yours :D [16:34] that's a pretty bad statement on it's own [16:35] darn my internet is bad [16:37] or LP is bad [16:37] ahoneybun: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/30/Screenshot_20160430_183618.png and http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/30/Screenshot_20160430_183617.png [16:38] the heck [16:38] something is broken [16:38] yep that package is not downloading at all [16:38] :D [16:38] what package ? [16:39] nvidia-364 of course [16:40] mm 1d for 9000kbs [16:40] something is wrong [16:40] odd, using this pap right https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ? [16:40] on the bright side, the steam conroller works [16:40] yea [16:40] :-) [16:50] ahoneybun: recommended GPU and driver: 3GB NVIDIA GeForce 760 (Driver version 364.12) [16:50] https://www.feralinteractive.com/en/news/611/ [16:50] in both specs they mention 364.12 [16:56] mm [16:56] my card has 2gbs [16:56] though that is recommended [16:56] first update driver :) [16:57] if it will download [17:32] clivejo: plasma is ready with yakkety branches if you want to work on plasma 5.6 [17:34] :D [17:38] soee_ 364.19 does not get a huge jump [17:39] pretty sad [17:39] I've even matched your settings [17:39] Sick_rimmit_phon trying Chatter? [17:39] Hey, yes [17:39] Well done [17:39] It is pretty good [17:40] bouncer support would be nice [17:40] ahoneybun: lats thing - arou using soe huybrid gpu laptop and by any chance you are on intel profile not nvidia ? [17:41] I looked and it says Nvidia [17:42] * soee_ thinks we need an exorcist now :) [17:42] ? [17:43] this makes no sense, you have better machine and much worse performance [17:43] yep I know [17:44] very odd [17:46] valorie, sgclark: can we update this page https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs and remove ppas that we dont use? people tend to use weekly ppa that is not updated almost a year now [17:47] we culd completely remove from LP ppas we dont use [17:48] I recall a thread about PPAs. Fine by me. only PPAs I use are staging/landing. Rest can be banished as far as I am concerned. [17:48] at some point those daily/weekly CI ones will ove again, maybe. [17:51] but we can tan easily create them if needed no? And now they just make people confused [17:52] correct, sorry, yes please remove everything but staging/landing. and be clear that staging is generally broken. landing is really where folks need to be unless asked to test staging [17:52] who has powers to remove those we don't need? [17:53] I do but swamped with packaging. maybe valorie can later? [17:53] i'll try to catch her and ask for help, thank you sgclark [17:56] sgclark: has frameworks 5.21 for yakkety been uploaded? [17:56] I just started :( I am only one person lol [17:57] I think plasma 5.6 needs frameworks 5.21 [17:58] clivejo: well can't you still run the script? things will likely need to be fixed anyway. [18:02] I mean you don't have to, just seemed like you were eager to work on something [18:02] yeah, but dont wanna step on your toes [18:03] my toes have frameworks, plasma is open. applications soonish [18:03] Ill need FW 5.21 for yakkety so that 5.6 builds [18:04] how are the new branches working for you? [18:04] exactly the same as the old ones :) [18:05] no timeouts like we used to get on Alioth [18:05] well except no CI which stinks IMO [18:05] no problems yet [18:05] hopefully get CI up and running again :) [18:07] clivejo: so you were probably right saying that broken Activities switcher is due to older Plasma version :) [18:08] well activities was split into different packages in FW5.21 [18:08] and plasma 5.6 uses FW5.21 [18:09] so this is required and lower Frameworks version is not supported in 5.6? [18:10] not sure, we usually bump the versions to the lastest [18:10] so in 5.6 Ill be build dep'ing on 5.21 [18:11] ok [18:11] they usually release frameworks, the plasma, then apps [18:11] and cycle round and round [18:14] well Frameworsk are released each month === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [19:46] <@Renee77>: little little question, does anyone knows a voicechat app for ubuntu tablet? [19:47] <@Renee77>: ☺️ [19:47] don't have one sorry, sick_rimmit perhaps? [19:48] <@Renee77>: I poke him when I do this @Sick_Rimmit [19:54] Telegram has voice mesages not shure about realtme chat [20:10] does Big Blue Box run on the tablet, ahoneybun? [20:10] errr, maybe it's Rick who has one [20:10] Rick [20:10] afaik [20:10] oh hiho valorie, have you read the ppas related conversation ? [20:11] <@Renee77>: lol [20:11] I have, and have the page up [20:12] but removing everything seems drastic [20:12] well the old ppas have nothing but junk in them that if installed will surely break things [20:13] we can always add them back if things change [20:13] imo [20:13] that is the point, we do not use them and they make people confused, i think until they are needed just drop them [20:13] text is easier to fix than broken systems [20:14] certainly, but kubuntu-ppa/backports etc are still used, correct? [20:14] mm yes of course. sorry [20:14] experimental -- certainly should be removed from the wiki page [20:14] dont use that anymore [20:14] and I can remove the diagram with it [20:15] No time to experiment! [20:15] right [20:15] so updates, backports can stay [20:16] beta backports sounds specialized [20:16] valorie: can you remove them on Launchpad also ? [20:16] removed [20:16] no, I'm not a devel [20:16] sgclark: can you hit the magic button on lp ? [20:16] soee_: youo have to take thhat up with yofel [20:16] yofel: is king on those decisions, not I [20:16] i see, yofel you you could, please remove them [20:22] how about the CI stuff? [20:22] remove, or leave? [20:22] well CI is completely broken right now. so remove but save the text for when it gets resurrected. [20:23] the text is always there in previous versions of the page [20:23] alrighty [20:24] sgclark: might be wise to pause CI or something [20:25] oh. yes, no sense building stuff from debian git as we are not using it. [20:25] it will just go crazy if it cant upload to LP PPA [20:25] it's a tiny page now [20:26] and in future I don't think testing PPAs should be added there at all [20:26] if we want a page for testing, it should be separate [20:27] valorie: thank you for taking care of it [20:27] clivejo: it can still upload to LP. But it is building using debian git which is senseless as we are not using that [20:27] would have felt better if yofel was around to give a nod before deleting those [20:28] anyway paused, good idea [20:28] clivejo: no PPAs have been touched. I said yofel needs to do that. [20:28] only text on a wiki [20:28] oh ok [20:28] I feel the same lol [20:29] clivejo: nothing is lost, even on the wiki [20:29] everything is there in the history [20:29] yofel sees the big picture! [20:29] exactly [20:29] but I think the page was much too complex [20:29] I only see the wee bit I understand! [20:30] we'll whip up a tester page when we have something to test [20:30] should have frameworks here shortly [20:31] sgclark: there was only this one package with icons problem with Frameworks [20:31] yofel: said maybe something with missing epoch [20:31] soee_: umm I have no clue what you are talking about sorry [20:31] oh [20:31] oxygen-icons? [20:32] yes the one i mentioned :) but it was tested on Xenial and you probably talks about YY now ? [20:32] yeah, but it would have same issue if it is indeed epoch [20:35] YY = Yucky Yogurt [20:37] yogurt is yummy! [20:37] its rotten milk!! [20:37] yuck! [20:37] not rotten [20:38] you probably wouldn't like the kefir I make every day [20:39] but if yogurt is rotten, then so is cheese [20:39] mmmmm, cheese [20:41] cheese is rotten too [20:42] omg cheese <3 [20:43] sgclark: the only "testing" ppa still on that page is staging [20:43] I'm thinking that should be removed as well? [20:44] since we don't want people using it except when asked [20:44] well we have landing that can possibly be on that page [20:44] but I still don't quite understand landing [20:45] valorie: yeah lets keep that clean of testing cruft. and make a new one for testing [20:45] isn't it like staging -> landing -> archive/backports ? [20:46] yeah [20:46] it is [20:46] but where are langing? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa [20:46] ah yes i see [20:46] now very minimal: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs [20:46] so landing is a place where we test stuff before upload to archive/backports [20:47] and staging where devs build and fix building [20:47] ah. that makes sense [20:47] so staging most likely is often broken, while staging usable [20:47] *landing usable [20:48] yes that sounds right [20:59] sgclark: are we using https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/beta ? [21:00] mm dunno. I honestly have not had tim eto package beta releases in a long time [21:00] but that could change? if we get m.ore packagers [21:00] last package updated there is 44 weeks old [21:01] yep, backc when we had a full team [21:01] with time to package beta releases [21:02] the good ole days [21:03] if we get our dev all spiffed, it will happen [21:04] you found anyone to join the team? [21:07] there are a few wanting to join, but finding it difficult to join in while we're in flux [21:07] so getting our workflow set and documented seems like a good first step [21:09] awww but going in blind is so much more interesting [21:11] indeed [21:11] thrown in at the deep end [21:11] my practice is to walk in blind and just watch and listen for awhile [21:11] either sink or swim! [21:12] Im swimming to the bottom! [21:12]