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lotuspsychjegood morning to all03:24
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: !! Hello .. shift change .03:26
daftykins>:D03:26
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om & daftykins03:28
Bashing-omslow on the channel presently ... not much going on .. and it be a Friday .. surprising .03:30
lotuspsychje1843 users still pretty good03:30
daftykinsthe channel is the most pleasant it's ever been, here's a snippet...03:31
daftykinsDay changed to 13 Apr 2016... Day changed to 30 Apr 201603:31
daftykins;)03:31
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: i helped a user with a forum thread of you Bashing-om03:31
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: ... And ... what did I miss ?03:32
lotuspsychjeit was about...a user not getting into login anymore03:32
lotuspsychjehad to restart lightdm every boot03:32
lotuspsychjemodprop is not a file or something03:33
lotuspsychjesome weird stuff going on graphics wise on xenial03:34
lotuspsychjei had another  2 user saying optimus dont work anymore either03:35
Bashing-omOne I recall is asking the poster to verify the DE for the proper command to start the GUI (??) .03:35
lotuspsychjeone got back to bumblebee to make it work oO03:35
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: another case03:35
Bashing-omThere are those times BumbleBee works better ,, did one last night swapping to nvidia-prime from BumbleBee that worked out ( case where the OP had not removed BB ).03:38
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: can you recall wich chipset and nvidia driver version?03:40
Bashing-omwas one of nvidia later cards .. Nvidia recommended the 361 version .. poster had success with 364, - so if works do not fix .03:46
Bashing-omwas on 14.04 amd installed our PPA .03:47
lotuspsychjeah not on xenial?03:47
Bashing-omso far I have not seen a problem in xenial with Nvidia . - so far !03:48
lotuspsychjei did, but many upgrades03:49
lotuspsychjethe one from yesterday couldnt even go back to nouveau03:50
lotuspsychjeso i suggested to compare on a 16.04 live03:50
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Working one on the forum now .. will not be suprised if it turns out to be graphics on a upgrade to 16.04 .03:52
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: cool03:53
Bashing-omand hour to boot . ( not looked at the logs yet, slow getting there ) .03:54
lotuspsychjewow03:54
dax!xchat | new factoid03:55
ubot5new factoid: xchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.03:55
lotuspsychjetnx dax03:57
lotuspsychjethat will be usefull03:57
lotuspsychjedax: i reported the !partitoning trigger recently when you wasnt around, not yet changed :p03:58
dax!partitioning03:58
ubot5For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap03:58
lotuspsychjeurl dead03:58
* dax mutters something about Canonical and mod_rewrite04:00
lotuspsychje: )04:00
daxyup, can't figure out where they moved it, and there's robots.txt disallowing archive.org from indexing it so i don't know what used to be on there04:02
daxfun times04:02
dax!partitionmanager04:02
ubot5PartitionManager is a !KDE !GUI partitioning program. Use !Muon or !Synaptic to install or type « sudo apt-get install partitionmanager » in a !terminal04:02
dax!qtparted04:03
dax!-qtparted04:03
daxumm, k04:03
dax!-disks04:04
ubot5disks aliases: formatting, format, partitions, mounting, disk, harddrive - added by LjL on 2006-07-20 23:35:02 - last edited by IdleOne on 2012-10-13 23:17:3504:04
lotuspsychjehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes 201404:04
daxyeah, that's the plan, fixing some alias mess i caused last month first04:05
lotuspsychjehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition 201004:05
lotuspsychjehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DrivesAndPartitions 201504:06
lotuspsychjethats about it what i find04:07
dax!disks04:07
ubot5For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap04:07
daxHowtoPartition links to PartitioningSchemes anyway. DrivesAndPartitions is a bit general04:08
daxand the two or three copies of !disks are now aliased to it too04:08
lotuspsychjeah04:08
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RoosterHi?04:35
lotuspsychjehi!04:35
Roosteroh wow lol, so where do you learn all this about Linux/Ubuntu?04:36
Roosterlotuspsychje,04:37
lotuspsychjeRooster: we all started experiment at one time04:37
Roosterlotuspsychje: So, it's just experience from over time?04:38
lotuspsychjeRooster: my opinion is to experiment yourself is the best learning04:38
Bashing-omRooster: You break it , you fix it , you learn not to break it .04:38
lotuspsychjeRooster: and the help of the ubuntu community of course04:38
lotuspsychjeminitrue: welcome04:42
minitruelotuspsychje: thanks04:43
lotuspsychjeminitrue: i understand your point, opensource sharing can lead to solution04:43
lotuspsychjeminitrue: but in this case, i just pointed rooster to this channel because he had no issue at the time04:43
lotuspsychjeminitrue: you agree we need to leave space for real issues?04:44
minitruelotuspsychje: yes, offcourse, but I think that in #ubuntu there is low treshold for offtopics04:44
Roosterlotuspsychje: Thanks for the insight, you were extremely helpful04:44
Roosterand Ben04:44
lotuspsychjeminitrue: i think with like a crowdy 2000 users, the rules are good to have low treshold04:45
lotuspsychjeto keep an organized support experience04:45
lotuspsychjeLambdaComplex: welcome04:45
LambdaComplexlotuspsychje: hi04:46
minitruelotuspsychje: yes, but i never saw more than 10 users talking at the same time04:47
minitruemaybe is how i see irc04:47
lotuspsychjelol we do04:47
lotuspsychjecome back at usa waking times04:47
lotuspsychjewhere we have to deal 10 issues at the same time04:47
RoosterLucky it's midnight in US lol04:48
lotuspsychjebelieve me, you dont want other users 'discussing' or sharing opinions togheter04:48
minitrueim lurking :P all day in the channel04:48
lotuspsychjeminitrue: i know its tempting for everyone to share an idea in a corwdy support channel04:48
RoosterI always hope someone has the same problems because Google hasn't helpd at all altely04:48
Roosterlately*04:49
lotuspsychjeRooster: for problems, its the perfect chanel sint it04:49
minitruelotuspsychje: Im not native in english, so probably im not making my point clear04:49
RoosterDamn right, I got an answer so quick04:49
Roostermonth of googling VS. IRC channel04:49
lotuspsychjeminitrue: feel free to re explain?04:49
minitruelotuspsychje: im traing :P but I dont want to send random words while I  think04:50
minitruetrying*04:50
minitruelotuspsychje: sometimes, when 3 or 4 users are trying to solve a problem the conversation starts to be more disarticulated/casual04:52
lotuspsychjeminitrue: yes i understand where you heading04:52
minitruelotuspsychje: :D04:52
lotuspsychjeminitrue: and i stronly encourage this way of brainstorm solving04:52
lotuspsychjeminitrue: if its related to one's issue04:53
lotuspsychjebut not if its unrelated04:53
RoosterSo, how do you find the right channel for your topic of discussion?04:53
minitrueRooster: you have like this local chapters04:54
minitruefor example im from latin america so we have #ubuntu-xx04:54
lotuspsychje!alis | Rooster04:54
ubot5Rooster: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http04:54
RoosterYeah, but how does that help me?04:54
minitrueand those are more layback channels with less users and more offtopic friendly04:54
minitrueRooster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList04:55
RoosterOh, I see04:55
RoosterThanks again!04:55
minitrueRooster: no problem :P04:55
Rooster!alis04:55
ubot5alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http04:55
RoosterWait, can you give an example?04:56
minitruelotuspsychje: what i want to say is that sometimes questions as "hey, first time using a GNU/Linux distro? " or "why did you chose this instead of this" can help newcomers04:56
lotuspsychjeRooster: /msg alis list cars04:56
Roosterok04:56
minitruewhile solving the problem04:57
minitruedunno04:57
lotuspsychjeminitrue: i also understand that mate, if there's someone asking a specific issue04:57
lotuspsychjeminitrue: but our friend Rooster just shared his experience, without pointing to one issue specificly04:58
minitruelotuspsychje: yes i know, Im not talking about Rooster's case, but in general, because  is as i was saying, is quite normal in #ubuntu send users to #ubuntu-discuss04:59
RoosterSo, is there other channels that would be helpful like this and #ubuntu?04:59
minitrueand i just want to share my opinion :P04:59
lotuspsychjeminitrue: and you are free to, here :p04:59
Roosterare there*05:00
lotuspsychjeRooster: yes, there are many specific official ubuntu hepp channels05:00
lotuspsychjeRooster: the flavors, arm, touch,devel,security etc...05:00
minitrue\o/05:00
lotuspsychjeRooster: the first question to ask oneself, is what is my question about?05:01
RoosterI know I'm asking a lot, but you seem to know everything I've been asking so far. I guess this might be my last question. Do you know how to create a shell account, so I can secure a connection to IRC05:01
Rooster?05:01
lotuspsychjeRooster: you mean ssh?05:01
RoosterYes05:02
RoosterApparently I need a shell account for SSH?05:02
lotuspsychjeRooster: so a question howto ssh on ubuntu fits perfectly in #ubuntu05:02
minitruexD05:02
lotuspsychjeRooster: or a more specific channel #openssh05:02
* minitrue lol's05:02
RoosterI didn't think it was specifically Ubuntu05:02
RoosterI know how to SSH, just not to IRC05:03
Roosterit's weird05:03
lotuspsychjeRooster: if its unrelated to ubuntu, #openssh05:03
lotuspsychjeRooster: perhaps you also might wanna look at the manual?05:04
lotuspsychje!manual05:04
ubot5The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:04
lotuspsychjeRooster: alot of usefull topics for your needs05:04
RoosterThanks, for like the 50th time lol05:04
lotuspsychjeminitrue: set this channel to your favs, we have gathered most active volunteers here to share stuff05:07
lotuspsychjeubuntu news topics, and support topics05:08
minitruelotuspsychje: :D autoconnect  #irssi-team here05:08
lotuspsychjegreat05:08
Bashing-omThough it has been entertaining .. time for some shut eye ; G nite guys .05:23
lotuspsychjemorning wafflej0ck05:56
wafflej0ckhiya lotuspsychje actually night here gonna get to bed soon, but just fired up the chat05:57
lotuspsychjeokay mate05:57
BluesKajHey folks13:33
lotuspsychjegood afternoon to all14:17
lotuspsychjequick in and out14:17
wafflej0ckgood afternoon (morning for me now) lotuspsychje14:23
lotuspsychjewafflej0ck: heh good morning have a coffee :p14:23
wafflej0ckin progress :)14:24
lotuspsychjebbl14:57
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OerHeksinteresting, if-this-then-that http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/googles-onhub-router-finally-gets-some-smart-home-features-via-ifttt/18:48
Bashing-omOerHeks: ^, we are quickly approaching the world of tomorrow .18:57
OerHeksthey are just snappy packages, i think18:57
OerHeksdrag & drop18:57
Bashing-omas you say, going to be interesting .19:02
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jeremy31Anyone understand why the broadcom-sta module has issues in 16.04 with secure boot enabled.  I think it is related to either the kernel taint or lack of signing22:28

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