[03:24] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:26] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: !! Hello .. shift change .
[03:26] <daftykins> >:D
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om & daftykins
[03:30] <Bashing-om> slow on the channel presently ... not much going on .. and it be a Friday .. surprising .
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> 1843 users still pretty good
[03:31] <daftykins> the channel is the most pleasant it's ever been, here's a snippet...
[03:31] <daftykins> Day changed to 13 Apr 2016... Day changed to 30 Apr 2016
[03:31] <daftykins> ;)
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: i helped a user with a forum thread of you Bashing-om
[03:32] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: ... And ... what did I miss ?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> it was about...a user not getting into login anymore
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> had to restart lightdm every boot
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> modprop is not a file or something
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> some weird stuff going on graphics wise on xenial
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> i had another  2 user saying optimus dont work anymore either
[03:35] <Bashing-om> One I recall is asking the poster to verify the DE for the proper command to start the GUI (??) .
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> one got back to bumblebee to make it work oO
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: another case
[03:38] <Bashing-om> There are those times BumbleBee works better ,, did one last night swapping to nvidia-prime from BumbleBee that worked out ( case where the OP had not removed BB ).
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: can you recall wich chipset and nvidia driver version?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> was one of nvidia later cards .. Nvidia recommended the 361 version .. poster had success with 364, - so if works do not fix .
[03:47] <Bashing-om> was on 14.04 amd installed our PPA .
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> ah not on xenial?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> so far I have not seen a problem in xenial with Nvidia . - so far !
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> i did, but many upgrades
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> the one from yesterday couldnt even go back to nouveau
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> so i suggested to compare on a 16.04 live
[03:52] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Working one on the forum now .. will not be suprised if it turns out to be graphics on a upgrade to 16.04 .
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: cool
[03:54] <Bashing-om> and hour to boot . ( not looked at the logs yet, slow getting there ) .
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> wow
[03:55] <dax> !xchat | new factoid
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> tnx dax
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> that will be usefull
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> dax: i reported the !partitoning trigger recently when you wasnt around, not yet changed :p
[03:58] <dax> !partitioning
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> url dead
[04:00]  * dax mutters something about Canonical and mod_rewrite
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> : )
[04:02] <dax> yup, can't figure out where they moved it, and there's robots.txt disallowing archive.org from indexing it so i don't know what used to be on there
[04:02] <dax> fun times
[04:02] <dax> !partitionmanager
[04:03] <dax> !qtparted
[04:03] <dax> !-qtparted
[04:03] <dax> umm, k
[04:04] <dax> !-disks
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes 2014
[04:05] <dax> yeah, that's the plan, fixing some alias mess i caused last month first
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition 2010
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DrivesAndPartitions 2015
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> thats about it what i find
[04:07] <dax> !disks
[04:08] <dax> HowtoPartition links to PartitioningSchemes anyway. DrivesAndPartitions is a bit general
[04:08] <dax> and the two or three copies of !disks are now aliased to it too
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> ah
[04:35] <Rooster> Hi?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> hi!
[04:36] <Rooster> oh wow lol, so where do you learn all this about Linux/Ubuntu?
[04:37] <Rooster> lotuspsychje,
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: we all started experiment at one time
[04:38] <Rooster> lotuspsychje: So, it's just experience from over time?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: my opinion is to experiment yourself is the best learning
[04:38] <Bashing-om> Rooster: You break it , you fix it , you learn not to break it .
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: and the help of the ubuntu community of course
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: welcome
[04:43] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: thanks
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: i understand your point, opensource sharing can lead to solution
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: but in this case, i just pointed rooster to this channel because he had no issue at the time
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: you agree we need to leave space for real issues?
[04:44] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: yes, offcourse, but I think that in #ubuntu there is low treshold for offtopics
[04:44] <Rooster> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the insight, you were extremely helpful
[04:44] <Rooster> and Ben
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: i think with like a crowdy 2000 users, the rules are good to have low treshold
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> to keep an organized support experience
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> LambdaComplex: welcome
[04:46] <LambdaComplex> lotuspsychje: hi
[04:47] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: yes, but i never saw more than 10 users talking at the same time
[04:47] <minitrue> maybe is how i see irc
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> lol we do
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> come back at usa waking times
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> where we have to deal 10 issues at the same time
[04:48] <Rooster> Lucky it's midnight in US lol
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> believe me, you dont want other users 'discussing' or sharing opinions togheter
[04:48] <minitrue> im lurking :P all day in the channel
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: i know its tempting for everyone to share an idea in a corwdy support channel
[04:48] <Rooster> I always hope someone has the same problems because Google hasn't helpd at all altely
[04:49] <Rooster> lately*
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: for problems, its the perfect chanel sint it
[04:49] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: Im not native in english, so probably im not making my point clear
[04:49] <Rooster> Damn right, I got an answer so quick
[04:49] <Rooster> month of googling VS. IRC channel
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: feel free to re explain?
[04:50] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: im traing :P but I dont want to send random words while I  think
[04:50] <minitrue> trying*
[04:52] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: sometimes, when 3 or 4 users are trying to solve a problem the conversation starts to be more disarticulated/casual
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: yes i understand where you heading
[04:52] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: :D
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: and i stronly encourage this way of brainstorm solving
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: if its related to one's issue
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> but not if its unrelated
[04:53] <Rooster> So, how do you find the right channel for your topic of discussion?
[04:54] <minitrue> Rooster: you have like this local chapters
[04:54] <minitrue> for example im from latin america so we have #ubuntu-xx
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Rooster
[04:54] <Rooster> Yeah, but how does that help me?
[04:54] <minitrue> and those are more layback channels with less users and more offtopic friendly
[04:55] <minitrue> Rooster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[04:55] <Rooster> Oh, I see
[04:55] <Rooster> Thanks again!
[04:55] <minitrue> Rooster: no problem :P
[04:55] <Rooster> !alis
[04:56] <Rooster> Wait, can you give an example?
[04:56] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: what i want to say is that sometimes questions as "hey, first time using a GNU/Linux distro? " or "why did you chose this instead of this" can help newcomers
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: /msg alis list cars
[04:56] <Rooster> ok
[04:57] <minitrue> while solving the problem
[04:57] <minitrue> dunno
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: i also understand that mate, if there's someone asking a specific issue
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: but our friend Rooster just shared his experience, without pointing to one issue specificly
[04:59] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: yes i know, Im not talking about Rooster's case, but in general, because  is as i was saying, is quite normal in #ubuntu send users to #ubuntu-discuss
[04:59] <Rooster> So, is there other channels that would be helpful like this and #ubuntu?
[04:59] <minitrue> and i just want to share my opinion :P
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: and you are free to, here :p
[05:00] <Rooster> are there*
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: yes, there are many specific official ubuntu hepp channels
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: the flavors, arm, touch,devel,security etc...
[05:00] <minitrue> \o/
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: the first question to ask oneself, is what is my question about?
[05:01] <Rooster> I know I'm asking a lot, but you seem to know everything I've been asking so far. I guess this might be my last question. Do you know how to create a shell account, so I can secure a connection to IRC
[05:01] <Rooster> ?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: you mean ssh?
[05:02] <Rooster> Yes
[05:02] <Rooster> Apparently I need a shell account for SSH?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: so a question howto ssh on ubuntu fits perfectly in #ubuntu
[05:02] <minitrue> xD
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: or a more specific channel #openssh
[05:02]  * minitrue lol's
[05:02] <Rooster> I didn't think it was specifically Ubuntu
[05:03] <Rooster> I know how to SSH, just not to IRC
[05:03] <Rooster> it's weird
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: if its unrelated to ubuntu, #openssh
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: perhaps you also might wanna look at the manual?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !manual
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: alot of usefull topics for your needs
[05:04] <Rooster> Thanks, for like the 50th time lol
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: set this channel to your favs, we have gathered most active volunteers here to share stuff
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu news topics, and support topics
[05:08] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: :D autoconnect  #irssi-team here
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> great
[05:23] <Bashing-om> Though it has been entertaining .. time for some shut eye ; G nite guys .
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> morning wafflej0ck
[05:57] <wafflej0ck> hiya lotuspsychje actually night here gonna get to bed soon, but just fired up the chat
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> okay mate
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> quick in and out
[14:23] <wafflej0ck> good afternoon (morning for me now) lotuspsychje
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> wafflej0ck: heh good morning have a coffee :p
[14:24] <wafflej0ck> in progress :)
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[18:48] <OerHeks> interesting, if-this-then-that http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/googles-onhub-router-finally-gets-some-smart-home-features-via-ifttt/
[18:57] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: ^, we are quickly approaching the world of tomorrow .
[18:57] <OerHeks> they are just snappy packages, i think
[18:57] <OerHeks> drag & drop
[19:02] <Bashing-om> as you say, going to be interesting .
[22:28] <jeremy31> Anyone understand why the broadcom-sta module has issues in 16.04 with secure boot enabled.  I think it is related to either the kernel taint or lack of signing