[03:24] good morning to all [03:26] lotuspsychje: !! Hello .. shift change . [03:26] >:D [03:28] hey Bashing-om & daftykins [03:30] slow on the channel presently ... not much going on .. and it be a Friday .. surprising . [03:30] 1843 users still pretty good [03:31] the channel is the most pleasant it's ever been, here's a snippet... [03:31] Day changed to 13 Apr 2016... Day changed to 30 Apr 2016 [03:31] ;) [03:31] Bashing-om: i helped a user with a forum thread of you Bashing-om [03:32] lotuspsychje: ... And ... what did I miss ? [03:32] it was about...a user not getting into login anymore [03:32] had to restart lightdm every boot [03:33] modprop is not a file or something [03:34] some weird stuff going on graphics wise on xenial [03:35] i had another 2 user saying optimus dont work anymore either [03:35] One I recall is asking the poster to verify the DE for the proper command to start the GUI (??) . [03:35] one got back to bumblebee to make it work oO [03:35] Bashing-om: another case [03:38] There are those times BumbleBee works better ,, did one last night swapping to nvidia-prime from BumbleBee that worked out ( case where the OP had not removed BB ). [03:40] Bashing-om: can you recall wich chipset and nvidia driver version? [03:46] was one of nvidia later cards .. Nvidia recommended the 361 version .. poster had success with 364, - so if works do not fix . [03:47] was on 14.04 amd installed our PPA . [03:47] ah not on xenial? [03:48] so far I have not seen a problem in xenial with Nvidia . - so far ! [03:49] i did, but many upgrades [03:50] the one from yesterday couldnt even go back to nouveau [03:50] so i suggested to compare on a 16.04 live [03:52] lotuspsychje: Working one on the forum now .. will not be suprised if it turns out to be graphics on a upgrade to 16.04 . [03:53] Bashing-om: cool [03:54] and hour to boot . ( not looked at the logs yet, slow getting there ) . [03:54] wow [03:55] !xchat | new factoid [03:55] new factoid: xchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards. [03:57] tnx dax [03:57] that will be usefull [03:58] dax: i reported the !partitoning trigger recently when you wasnt around, not yet changed :p [03:58] !partitioning [03:58] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [03:58] url dead [04:00] * dax mutters something about Canonical and mod_rewrite [04:00] : ) [04:02] yup, can't figure out where they moved it, and there's robots.txt disallowing archive.org from indexing it so i don't know what used to be on there [04:02] fun times [04:02] !partitionmanager [04:02] PartitionManager is a !KDE !GUI partitioning program. Use !Muon or !Synaptic to install or type « sudo apt-get install partitionmanager » in a !terminal [04:03] !qtparted [04:03] !-qtparted [04:03] umm, k [04:04] !-disks [04:04] disks aliases: formatting, format, partitions, mounting, disk, harddrive - added by LjL on 2006-07-20 23:35:02 - last edited by IdleOne on 2012-10-13 23:17:35 [04:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes 2014 [04:05] yeah, that's the plan, fixing some alias mess i caused last month first [04:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition 2010 [04:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DrivesAndPartitions 2015 [04:07] thats about it what i find [04:07] !disks [04:07] For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap [04:08] HowtoPartition links to PartitioningSchemes anyway. DrivesAndPartitions is a bit general [04:08] and the two or three copies of !disks are now aliased to it too [04:08] ah === kisb_ is now known as kisb [04:35] Hi? [04:35] hi! [04:36] oh wow lol, so where do you learn all this about Linux/Ubuntu? [04:37] lotuspsychje, [04:37] Rooster: we all started experiment at one time [04:38] lotuspsychje: So, it's just experience from over time? [04:38] Rooster: my opinion is to experiment yourself is the best learning [04:38] Rooster: You break it , you fix it , you learn not to break it . [04:38] Rooster: and the help of the ubuntu community of course [04:42] minitrue: welcome [04:43] lotuspsychje: thanks [04:43] minitrue: i understand your point, opensource sharing can lead to solution [04:43] minitrue: but in this case, i just pointed rooster to this channel because he had no issue at the time [04:44] minitrue: you agree we need to leave space for real issues? [04:44] lotuspsychje: yes, offcourse, but I think that in #ubuntu there is low treshold for offtopics [04:44] lotuspsychje: Thanks for the insight, you were extremely helpful [04:44] and Ben [04:45] minitrue: i think with like a crowdy 2000 users, the rules are good to have low treshold [04:45] to keep an organized support experience [04:45] LambdaComplex: welcome [04:46] lotuspsychje: hi [04:47] lotuspsychje: yes, but i never saw more than 10 users talking at the same time [04:47] maybe is how i see irc [04:47] lol we do [04:47] come back at usa waking times [04:47] where we have to deal 10 issues at the same time [04:48] Lucky it's midnight in US lol [04:48] believe me, you dont want other users 'discussing' or sharing opinions togheter [04:48] im lurking :P all day in the channel [04:48] minitrue: i know its tempting for everyone to share an idea in a corwdy support channel [04:48] I always hope someone has the same problems because Google hasn't helpd at all altely [04:49] lately* [04:49] Rooster: for problems, its the perfect chanel sint it [04:49] lotuspsychje: Im not native in english, so probably im not making my point clear [04:49] Damn right, I got an answer so quick [04:49] month of googling VS. IRC channel [04:49] minitrue: feel free to re explain? [04:50] lotuspsychje: im traing :P but I dont want to send random words while I think [04:50] trying* [04:52] lotuspsychje: sometimes, when 3 or 4 users are trying to solve a problem the conversation starts to be more disarticulated/casual [04:52] minitrue: yes i understand where you heading [04:52] lotuspsychje: :D [04:52] minitrue: and i stronly encourage this way of brainstorm solving [04:53] minitrue: if its related to one's issue [04:53] but not if its unrelated [04:53] So, how do you find the right channel for your topic of discussion? [04:54] Rooster: you have like this local chapters [04:54] for example im from latin america so we have #ubuntu-xx [04:54] !alis | Rooster [04:54] Rooster: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http [04:54] Yeah, but how does that help me? [04:54] and those are more layback channels with less users and more offtopic friendly [04:55] Rooster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [04:55] Oh, I see [04:55] Thanks again! [04:55] Rooster: no problem :P [04:55] !alis [04:55] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http [04:56] Wait, can you give an example? [04:56] lotuspsychje: what i want to say is that sometimes questions as "hey, first time using a GNU/Linux distro? " or "why did you chose this instead of this" can help newcomers [04:56] Rooster: /msg alis list cars [04:56] ok [04:57] while solving the problem [04:57] dunno [04:57] minitrue: i also understand that mate, if there's someone asking a specific issue [04:58] minitrue: but our friend Rooster just shared his experience, without pointing to one issue specificly [04:59] lotuspsychje: yes i know, Im not talking about Rooster's case, but in general, because is as i was saying, is quite normal in #ubuntu send users to #ubuntu-discuss [04:59] So, is there other channels that would be helpful like this and #ubuntu? [04:59] and i just want to share my opinion :P [04:59] minitrue: and you are free to, here :p [05:00] are there* [05:00] Rooster: yes, there are many specific official ubuntu hepp channels [05:00] Rooster: the flavors, arm, touch,devel,security etc... [05:00] \o/ [05:01] Rooster: the first question to ask oneself, is what is my question about? [05:01] I know I'm asking a lot, but you seem to know everything I've been asking so far. I guess this might be my last question. Do you know how to create a shell account, so I can secure a connection to IRC [05:01] ? [05:01] Rooster: you mean ssh? [05:02] Yes [05:02] Apparently I need a shell account for SSH? [05:02] Rooster: so a question howto ssh on ubuntu fits perfectly in #ubuntu [05:02] xD [05:02] Rooster: or a more specific channel #openssh [05:02] * minitrue lol's [05:02] I didn't think it was specifically Ubuntu [05:03] I know how to SSH, just not to IRC [05:03] it's weird [05:03] Rooster: if its unrelated to ubuntu, #openssh [05:04] Rooster: perhaps you also might wanna look at the manual? [05:04] !manual [05:04] The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [05:04] Rooster: alot of usefull topics for your needs [05:04] Thanks, for like the 50th time lol [05:07] minitrue: set this channel to your favs, we have gathered most active volunteers here to share stuff [05:08] ubuntu news topics, and support topics [05:08] lotuspsychje: :D autoconnect #irssi-team here [05:08] great [05:23] Though it has been entertaining .. time for some shut eye ; G nite guys . [05:56] morning wafflej0ck [05:57] hiya lotuspsychje actually night here gonna get to bed soon, but just fired up the chat [05:57] okay mate [13:33] Hey folks [14:17] good afternoon to all [14:17] quick in and out [14:23] good afternoon (morning for me now) lotuspsychje [14:23] wafflej0ck: heh good morning have a coffee :p [14:24] in progress :) [14:57] bbl === DJones_ is now known as DJones [18:48] interesting, if-this-then-that http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/googles-onhub-router-finally-gets-some-smart-home-features-via-ifttt/ [18:57] OerHeks: ^, we are quickly approaching the world of tomorrow . [18:57] they are just snappy packages, i think [18:57] drag & drop [19:02] as you say, going to be interesting . === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [22:28] Anyone understand why the broadcom-sta module has issues in 16.04 with secure boot enabled. I think it is related to either the kernel taint or lack of signing