[06:00] gmorning guys [06:05] Maaz tell Langjan run sudo update-grub [06:05] Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode [06:05] morning all [06:14] morning superfly i get no reply from maia on email. hope she is alright [06:30] You can see who helped me late last night, logging in late today... [06:30] Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell Langjan run sudo update-grub" 24 minutes and 51 seconds ago [06:31] thks, now you tell me - I have just switched off and packed up for delivery. will do! [06:40] sorry Langjan [06:41] just chatting to debs, will be here soon [06:41] se groete [06:42] sal doen dankie [07:24] Good morning everyone [07:25] morning paddatrapper [07:58] hi paddatrapper mazal Langjan [07:58] langjan [07:59] when you run that command you will see at the end ;; found win10 then you know you can choose on booting which system to go into [07:59] should give a time it gives you to decide on booting [08:00] if you leave it it will go into buntu [08:18] It goes into Ubuntu automatically, but shows "press F12 for boot options" for a few seconds at startup. [08:19] Hi Kilos , sorry [08:19] hi paddatrapper [08:19] and mazal [08:19] ok [08:20] I dont think he will ever use Win, all his emails and docs are on ubuntu [08:20] he just has it 'cause he paid for it [08:20] oh [08:20] or the insurance did [08:20] thats fine then [08:21] i would have wiped win completely then [08:21] well he wanted it so [08:21] thats fine [08:21] he will be back next year [08:22] I did a temporary connection to Susan and her husband's computers this morning, everything is working [08:22] now the cable trench will be dug next Wednesday [08:22] on win 10 when installing you give them permission to monitor your system when you tick i accept in the eula agreemant [08:23] can you skip the agreement [08:23] but I have already done it, so what does that mean? [08:24] nope [08:24] if you skip it doesnt install [08:24] now you tell me! Gonna ask for my money back [08:24] lol [08:24] i sent you that mail [08:25] ok but what does it imply that is sinister? [08:25] oh and how is Debs and Tara? [08:29] Chasing after sheep Kilos? [08:32] they ok ty just stressing with the visa stuff [08:32] the sheep? [08:33] no man the girls [08:33] lmga, good! [08:33] sheep are eating like tomorrow never comes [08:33] It wont if they become chops [08:33] wanneer braai ons? [08:34] lol [08:34] forget your tummy [08:34] nee man mens moet eet, kan dit net sowel ordentlik doen. Skaaptjops, hmmmm... [08:35] lol [08:35] lmga [08:35] ok Kilos will love and leqave you, enjoy a sporting weekend [08:35] ty sir [08:35] glad you won [08:36] look after you [08:36] thks again for the help [08:36] anytime [08:36] sorry I KEPT YOU SO LATE [08:36] thks [08:37] thre wre two messages from maaz, but the second one he seems to have forgotten [08:37] not a prob [08:37] haha [08:37] bots also forget [08:37] lmga [08:38] makes sense, theyre man-made [08:38] take care [08:38] you too [08:38] enjoy your weekend [08:38] ai! [08:43] I hate gravel ! [08:50] lol [08:52] Busy building a subway in mc and the gravel keep falling in everywhere [08:52] lol [08:53] build a retaining wall [08:53] build a proper reinforced tunnel [08:54] same as building under water [08:54] I am. Floors , walls ceilings. Looks nice [08:55] Rails I put in last [09:03] good evening [09:03] mazal: what is mc? [09:03] inetpro, minecraft [09:04] oh my, you've turned to the dark side? [09:04] Uses 4 times less data , and have better gameplay features and content for survival play [09:04] you paid for it? [09:05] Yep [09:05] Legal version [09:05] ai! [09:05] I don't mind paying for something that is a good product [09:07] * inetpro prefers freedom [09:07] which does not mean there's no price to pay [09:08] mc's price is best value for money I have seen in gaming and is nothing. You should see what my console game's in total cost lol [09:09] Those girls hurt you bad ! lol [09:10] hi inetpro [09:11] Sjoe , almost done with backup 360 installs , one game left [09:11] Kilos, no I didn't buy anything today , that is one's I already have that I am installing on backup console [09:11] :P [09:11] ok [09:12] But the day is young still :) [09:14] ai! [09:21] Hehehe , but in all honosty , I won't buy any new stuff easily anymore. Is getting to expensive. I will rather continue to hunt down the old classics of previous gen [09:21] Checked a new release on Thursday. R900 , crazy [09:21] hi bushtech [09:22] morning Kilos [09:22] to spend that on a game is madess mazal [09:22] I agree [09:23] Is why I am hunting the old stuff now. They are around R200 [09:23] you have enough games for a lifetime [09:23] I never had a 360 so all this old classics is new for mew now [09:23] tuen off the buying bug [09:24] inetpro can you find maia and ask her if she is ok firstly then if she can orfer sticks for us please [09:26] order [10:45] hi gremble [10:45] * Kilos watching rugby [10:48] Hey Kilos [10:49] I am trying to install a light fitting. But it was designed by an imbecile, so it is somewhat infuriating. [11:36] lol [11:42] Kilos: you must buy those sticks for yourself man [11:42] you can't have everything for free [11:42] no man im sure you order from canonical same as was with the dvds [11:43] i dont even want one [11:43] you forget why we used to get cds [11:43] inetpro, Hello! [11:43] not all for me [11:43] hi pavlushka [11:43] Kilos: I'm not so sure, talk to your guys in the committee [11:44] Hello Kilos ! [11:44] hi pavlushka [11:44] inetpro, miss you man! [11:45] pavlushka: I'm here [11:45] inetpro see forwarded mail [11:46] :) [11:46] order should be in already [11:48] gremble: hoekom sukkel jy so? [11:48] or am i reading it wrong [11:48] Kilos: talk to superfly and get the order in [11:49] ai! [11:49] just tell me where to find mia [11:49] maia [11:49] or talk to your guys and ask what is the process involved [11:49] you always give me a hard time [11:49] inetpro, the person who designed the light didn't take into consideration that people would need fingers or screwdrivers to attach the fitting to the ceiling and to connect the electricity [11:49] you and others here are my guys [11:50] Kilos: guys in the cape will have to trace her for you [11:50] oh isnt she on other channels [11:50] gremble: they wanted you to pay someone [11:50] Kilos: I have no idea [11:51] what happened [11:51] you normally find peeps quick [11:51] you sick?? [11:51] I don't work for national intelligence [11:52] haha [11:52] ai! [11:52] superfly ping [11:52] Maaz seen superfly [11:52] Kilos: superfly was last seen 22 hours, 8 minutes and 34 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-29 06:43:50 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-29 19:07:40 PDT [11:52] the fly is busy man [11:53] tell me who is not busy? [11:53] you [11:53] sure [11:53] you the findit fixit guy [12:01] inetpro, Hello NSA calling......... [13:18] * mazal scratches head [13:18] What can I dl that's about 2gig [13:18] Need to use data up today [13:19] mazal: Live ISO's should be about that [13:19] paddatrapper, I already have Kubuntu and Ubuntu iso [13:19] Arch :D [13:19] oi [13:19] Jy want to make me sukkel ? [13:20] lol. Arch is maklik man - follow the wiki [13:20] Other than that 2gb of softwre? [13:21] s/softwre/software [13:22] Lemme see what steam library have [13:27] Otherwise Netflix/YouTube, etc [14:02] paddatrapper nuvolari says he will try be here tonight [14:02] he is a freestate child so speaks as it should be spoken hopefully [14:02] hi bushtech you came again back [14:03] Great, I'll try remember to be online [14:03] hehe [14:03] i slept all avy again [14:04] and redshift been off anyway [14:04] must be old age [14:05] I wish I could sleep today. Instead I'm covering a school rugby festival, whcih is fun in its own way [14:05] have you got kids? [14:07] No, covering it for my old High School [14:07] cool [14:07] good lad [14:08] So much headache when I got here. Luckily all sorted now [14:09] eish [15:05] hey Kilos, what ubuntu version was that PC running I used the other day? [15:06] hahahaha [15:06] 14.04 kde [15:06] kubuntu [15:06] did you actually enjoy it [15:07] you were too busy typing to enjoy it [15:16] lol I just need the outdated software [15:16] lol [15:25] its only 2 years old man [15:25] sjoe [15:30] That's just 20 years in IT terms [15:31] hi Kilos [15:31] its me, Langjan [15:38] Kilos, chasing sheep? [15:39] hi kobus [15:39] pumping water this time [15:40] * nuvolari cracks his knukles [15:40] *cough* [15:40] wb nuvolari [15:40] * nuvolari knak sy vingers [15:40] hallo oom Kilos :D [15:40] LTNC :-/ [15:40] sorrie [15:41] many mongths away hey [15:41] months [15:41] jy baie stout [15:41] hoe gaan dit seun [15:41] nee hu uh, dis werk [15:41] nee nee [15:41] dit gaan goed dankie oom, en met oom? [15:41] jy werk nie in die nag nie [15:41] jy jol [15:42] ek lewe nog darem [15:42] ek kyk series en het begin storie boeke lees [15:42] wel, is nou by my 2de boek :P [15:42] haha [15:42] my ingelse lees het bietjie verswak :( [15:42] ek begin nou eers weer opbou aan my 'comprehension' [15:43] moes baie goed oor en oor lees voor ek onthou [15:43] ons het jou dienste nodig in die volgende maande asb [15:43] ek sal jou die lienks gee vir die taak [15:44] wb kobus [15:44] paddatrapper you here [15:44] Hi Kilos sorry lost connection [15:44] aloha [15:44] is dit 'n transifex projek oom Kilos? [15:44] np kobus_ [15:44] ek weet nie man [15:45] Kilos, this system is not openng system settings [15:45] dis n speletjie om kinders te leer lees en skryf [15:45] it worked at home, here its dead [15:45] um [15:46] what does it do kobus_ [15:46] just nothing? [15:46] Kilos: kinda ja [15:46] ok type in konsole [15:46] lol! "Hello, complement of the day, I am Fatima, a kind responsible and humble girl, i saw your profile and like it.Please reply back at..." I didn't take transifex for a meeting site [15:46] the gear works for shut down etc but system settings dooes not react [15:46] sudo touch /forcefsck [15:47] ok lets try [15:47] then close everything and reboot [15:47] that should check you file system for you [15:48] ok going down [15:48] thks [15:48] ok [15:48] nuvolari [15:48] http://raisingphoenicia.com/62 [15:48] first page [15:49] http://www.sitepoint.com/really-good-introduction-xml/ [15:50] http://raisingphoenicia.com/localization [15:51] nuvolari paddatrapper will do the voice recording for us [15:51] the idea is to make the game available to afrikaans speaking kids here [15:51] * nuvolari checks it out [15:51] *kyk dit uit [15:52] :< For a site about reading and writing, they should try to not have spelling errors in their blogs [15:53] haha he is very busy gremble [15:53] so everything is rush rush [15:53] he does lots of the serious work to see we have ubuntu [15:54] Hi Kilos still he same...eish! [15:54] It seems like the translations also build the game. So it's not just translation of the words, but modifying it to work for learning Afrikaans [15:54] I'm not deriding the work. It looks pretty rad [15:54] hmm... [15:55] back to windows... [15:55] lets see what google finds kobus, what else isnt working [15:55] ?lmga [15:55] only settings? [15:55] never back to windows man [15:55] sjoe [15:56] nuvolari ken jy daai xml goed? [15:56] about also dead, help works, restart and shutdown works [15:57] try this [15:57] ok... [15:57] sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop [15:57] it might tell you to install aptitude first [15:58] * nuvolari kyk demo video [15:58] why aptitude and not apt-get? [15:58] nog nie by die XML uitgekom nie oom Kilos, maar ja, ek ken XML [15:58] because aptitude is easier to remember reinstall [15:58] Alright [15:58] command not found [15:58] no aptitude [15:59] command would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall [15:59] extra typing [15:59] old fingers like lass typing gremble [16:00] kobus sudo apt install aptitude [16:00] apt-get install [16:01] apt install [16:01] running on apt-get [16:01] works well [16:01] remble you havent heard [16:01] apt install aptitude [16:02] apt update and apt upgrade is the new way [16:02] My apologies. http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get [16:02] sudo apt install aptitude [16:02] ok running [16:03] apt is an improvement but i still enjoy aptitude [16:03] ok its working, many thanks [16:03] youre a wizard and an angel [16:03] aptitude never gives me a message to run aoturemove [16:03] yay that was a flook [16:03] happy its working kobus [16:04] kobus dont forget [16:04] oh you most likely get updates regularly [16:05] mine are turned off for when data allows [16:05] ok Kilos thks [16:05] you welcome [16:05] shutting down, bye for now [16:05] cheers go well [16:06] thks youalso [16:06] whew im happy that worked [16:26] waar kom ek nou in oom Kilos? [16:27] * nuvolari dink ons moet iemand kry wat weet wat om vir kinnertjies te leer [16:28] hmm, kinder boeke kan dalk help [16:31] nuvolari [16:31] die opneem van woorde [16:31] en letters [16:31] * nuvolari is skaam [16:32] * nuvolari hou nie van sy stem op 'n recording nie [16:32] :P [16:32] nee man jy n vrystater [16:32] dis om n miljoen afrikaners te leer [16:32] juis oom, vrystaters het sulke skurwe stemme. Ek wag nog vir my stem om te breek :'( [16:33] lol [16:33] nou dis net reg [16:33] moenie stry nie [16:33] Ek dink daardie trein het reeds die stasie verlaat [16:33] ek gaan nooit 'n mooi diep stem hê wat 'n girl se bene lam maak nie [16:33] dont look for problems , look for solutions [16:34] * nuvolari sal 'n brandblusser kannetjie saamsleep en dit inasem vir 'n dieper stem [16:34] nee man vir wat [16:34] n stem is n stem [16:35] maar so baie mense stem nie :( [16:35] ek het darm registreer [16:35] dit moenie sexy klink nie dis on kinders te leer praat [16:35] * nuvolari praat met peer oor die reset knoppie [16:36] hoekom moet ek dan van die xml goed weet as ek recordings moet doen oom Kilos ? [16:36] * nuvolari probeer nog die kolletjies verbind [16:36] so dat jy kan sien wat behelps dit [16:36] miskien kan jy paddatrapper help [16:37] hy se hy ken dit ook en kan opnames doen [16:37] maar se hy kilink soos n siek nederlander [16:38] lol! ek klink soos 'n siek nederlander se pa. nie beter nie :P [16:38] Niemand hou van sy eie stem nie [16:39] Op 'n recording [16:39] i like mine [16:39] Nice! I hate mine [16:40] but talking not singing [16:40] nuvolari praat met paddatrapper ek dink hy is naby jou ook [16:41] My problem is I have an English accent, but spent a year in the Netherlands, so that ruined any hope of an Afrikaans accent [16:43] Ek weet net nie waar om te begin nie. Ek reken daar moet 'n plan wees vir wat geleer moet word in watter orde [16:44] a laptop mic is not going to cut it. Bad audio drives me to nuts [16:44] er [16:44] insanity [16:45] I have an interface and mics. I am an sound engineer, so I understand the bad audio pain! [16:46] Cool! You in CT paddatrapper ? [16:47] oor kant die vlei van vlieg [16:47] I'd be happy to help out uttering sounds [16:47] Definitely need to sort a script and anything. The stuff we need to record needs to match what is being typed in the xml, etc [16:47] I'm in Muizenberg [16:47] oh! Bergliet, a stone's throw [16:48] yay [16:48] *Bergvliet [16:48] yeah, I gathered that from all the documentation [16:48] what they did not make very clear is where the locale stuff is supposed to go in the project structure [16:49] is it a different github project? [16:49] make a list of questions and ill ask mhall [16:50] nuvolari ill remember this [16:50] I'd be happy to help out uttering sounds [16:50] dankie seun [16:50] we still have to work out the map part as well [16:51] The locale stuff is what drives the levels - it determines what letters are introduced when and what words the build [16:51] At least that is what I've gathered from playing the game a bit [16:52] yeah, https://youtu.be/OgF-OxpgWYk was quite helpful [16:53] Sorry I'm taking a while to reply - busy packing up after a long day here [16:53] Hi Kilos did the Lions turn up for their game? [16:54] Ooh, I'll ask on the southern suburbs FB group if there's anyone that know someone that knows what path to take (like a primary school/kindergarten teacher) [16:54] no problem paddatrapper [16:55] Sjoe, nuvolari and I thought they were the team to carry the SA flag this year... [16:57] ai! [16:57] 50/17 [16:57] shocking [16:58] Back home, kobus very happy with his new toy, thanks you guys for helping [16:59] lol [16:59] Ja Lions shell-shock [16:59] why did you break it [16:59] komaan [17:00] hoe doen mens dit as jy hom af- en aansit? Dis ubuntu wat so pieperig is [17:00] simple to explain [17:00] unity [17:00] lmga [17:00] Youre like the ANC [17:00] nono better [17:00] alles is apartheid se skuld [17:01] after 22 years [17:01] no i go by experience [17:01] so do they, so they say [17:01] most repairs needed are on unity [17:01] ask mazal [17:02] must be because its so popular [17:02] maybe 16.04 will be better once stable [17:02] hopefully [17:03] mazal was also unity fan but he eventually grew up [17:03] just you i battle with [17:03] but "most repairs" could simply mean many more users on unity [17:04] of course [17:04] because its how ubuntu installs [17:04] but i used unity and needed lts of help [17:04] lots [17:04] yes but you are old, thats why you need help [17:04] like me [17:04] and i didnt get more clever just got a better system [17:05] oumense het meer hulp nodig [17:05] lol [17:06] what time stormers kick-off? [17:06] dunno [17:06] must be soon i think [17:06] and saw something about a game at 11.30pm [17:06] ill be long asleep by then [17:07] Thats Jaguares and Kings, stormers probably 19:10, gotta go eat and watch, [17:07] go well Kilos and guys [17:08] ty Langjan you look after you as well [17:08] ai! [17:14] ack [17:14] still wanted to ask what he meant [17:14] about? [17:15] he has been covering school rugby today nuvolari [17:17] oh, talking about Langjan oom kilos [17:18] 18:55:20 Langjan | Sjoe, nuvolari and I thought they were the team to carry the SA flag this year... [17:18] oh [17:18] haha [17:18] what he meant about what [17:18] exactly, I can't make sense of it [17:18] oh'the lions are second on the za standings [17:19] the they get a hiding like that [17:19] ok, asked for help on the FB page [17:19] hope I get a bite [17:19] ai! you fb peeps [17:20] bah, had to get a tetanus shot today. Never had one before and today I got 2 dog teeth in my knee on the trail against Lions Head [17:20] sjoe [17:21] haha, this morning I tried stuff on a frame that I was last able to do in primary school! [17:21] It felt good :D [17:21] on a frame? [17:21] one of those training structures where you hang onto [17:21] like monkey bars? [17:22] haha [17:22] Don't know what I'm going to feel like tomorrow morning, or whether I'm going to feel anything at all! [17:22] i told you if you want to get fit and strong and have benefits from it go learn karate [17:23] last week sunday morning I could not get out of bed [17:23] Ouch [17:24] I know a couple of primary school teachers who I can ask as well [17:24] cool [17:24] the more the merrier [17:24] * nuvolari moet môre oggend by 'n boekwinkel uitkom [17:25] or a library even [17:25] hmm. [17:25] what books are you reading [17:25] eh? Oh, this is for Phoenicia. [17:26] go look at second hand book shops or at flee markets [17:26] But I am currently reading Lirael, by Garth Nix [17:26] A friend got me interested in reading [17:26] books are too expensive to buy new [17:26] yeah :-/ [17:27] i used to have a full set of wilbur smiths till about ten years ago [17:27] and desmond bagley [17:28] i enjoy adventure srories [17:28] I got a Kindle that I bought from my aggregated eBucks points! :D [17:29] It's rather expensive to buy though [17:29] snows have fallen in eastern cape [17:29] 10°c here tonight [17:29] if it wasn't my ebucks that paid for it, I would just have left it [17:29] ouch [17:30] monday and wendnesday was also 10°C this past week when I went out for training [17:30] I quite like using a 7" tablet for reading - allows me to do more than just read with it [17:30] haha [17:30] they even take pictures [17:31] well, a tablet lasts a couple of days, kindle lasts weeks :P [17:31] but yeah, a tablet does roughly the same thing. kindle feels closer to reading on paper though [17:31] tablets get free books somewhere [17:32] ok, I'm going to be off for now [17:32] my sisters eyes are oblong already [17:32] will check in again sometime soon [17:32] nuvolari dont be scarce [17:32] a daily greeting is good [17:32] I will try oom Kilos :) [17:32] ty for popping in [17:32] that's a fair requirement :) [17:32] 'look after yourself [17:32] I'll come pop in [17:33] ty [17:33] you're welcome oom :) Have a good evening [17:33] ty you too [17:33] ty! [17:34] paddatrapper nuvolari is one of the guys that helped me when i thought pcs were only for clever people [17:35] Oh cool. Haha [17:45] inetpro you here? [17:47] dont say you are always here [17:48] here is if you can answer within a reasonably short period of time [17:48] like -10 mins [17:50] or <10 mins i think it is [18:48] whew stormers playing well with 14 men [18:50] wb gremble [18:50] looks like everyone else is asleep [18:50] Thanks Kilos [18:54] It is late on a Saturday night, they've all probably turned in [18:54] yeah [18:54] or they waiting for me to sleep so they cant get more work [18:55] That is another possibility [18:55] lol [19:20] night all. sleep tight [21:57] What package contains the command strings?