[06:00] <Langjan> gmorning guys
[06:05] <Kilos> Maaz  tell Langjan run sudo update-grub 
[06:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[06:05] <Kilos> morning all
[06:14] <Kilos> morning superfly i get no reply from maia on email. hope she is alright
[06:30] <Langjan> You can see who helped me late last night, logging in late today...
[06:30] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell Langjan run sudo update-grub" 24 minutes and 51 seconds ago
[06:31] <Langjan> thks, now you tell me - I have just switched off and packed up for delivery. will do!
[06:40] <Kilos> sorry Langjan 
[06:41] <Kilos> just chatting to debs, will be here soon
[06:41] <Langjan> se groete
[06:42] <Kilos> sal doen dankie
[07:24] <paddatrapper> Good morning everyone
[07:25] <mazal> morning paddatrapper
[07:58] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper mazal Langjan 
[07:58] <Kilos> langjan
[07:59] <Kilos> when you run that command you will see at the end ;; found win10 then you know you can choose on booting which system to go into
[07:59] <Kilos> should give a time it gives you to decide on booting
[08:00] <Kilos> if you leave it it will go into buntu
[08:18] <Langjan> It goes into Ubuntu automatically, but shows "press F12 for boot options" for a few seconds at startup. 
[08:19] <Langjan> Hi Kilos , sorry
[08:19] <Langjan> hi paddatrapper 
[08:19] <Langjan> and mazal 
[08:19] <Kilos> ok
[08:20] <Langjan> I dont think he will ever use Win, all his emails and docs are on ubuntu
[08:20] <Langjan> he just has it 'cause he paid for it
[08:20] <Kilos> oh
[08:20] <Langjan> or the insurance did
[08:20] <Kilos> thats fine then
[08:21] <Kilos> i would have wiped win completely then
[08:21] <Langjan> well he wanted it so
[08:21] <Kilos> thats fine
[08:21] <Kilos> he will be back next year
[08:22] <Langjan> I did a temporary connection to Susan and her husband's computers this morning, everything is working
[08:22] <Langjan> now the cable trench will be dug next Wednesday
[08:22] <Kilos> on win 10 when installing you give them permission to monitor your system when you tick i accept in the eula agreemant
[08:23] <Langjan> can you skip the agreement
[08:23] <Langjan> but I have already done it, so what does that mean?
[08:24] <Kilos> nope
[08:24] <Kilos> if you skip it doesnt install
[08:24] <Langjan> now you tell me! Gonna ask for my money back
[08:24] <Kilos> lol
[08:24] <Kilos> i sent you that mail
[08:25] <Langjan> ok but what does it imply that is sinister? 
[08:25] <Langjan> oh and how is Debs and Tara?
[08:29] <Langjan> Chasing after sheep Kilos?
[08:32] <Kilos> they ok ty just stressing with the visa stuff
[08:32] <Langjan> the sheep?
[08:33] <Kilos> no man the girls
[08:33] <Langjan> lmga, good!
[08:33] <Kilos> sheep are eating like tomorrow never comes
[08:33] <Langjan> It wont if they become chops
[08:33] <Langjan> wanneer braai ons?
[08:34] <Kilos> lol
[08:34] <Kilos> forget your tummy
[08:34] <Langjan> nee man mens moet eet, kan dit net sowel ordentlik doen. Skaaptjops, hmmmm...
[08:35] <Kilos> lol
[08:35] <Langjan> lmga
[08:35] <Langjan>  ok Kilos  will love and leqave you, enjoy a sporting weekend
[08:35] <Kilos> ty sir
[08:35] <Kilos> glad you won
[08:36] <Kilos> look after you
[08:36] <Langjan> thks again for the help
[08:36] <Kilos> anytime
[08:36] <Langjan> sorry I KEPT YOU SO LATE
[08:36] <Langjan> thks
[08:37] <Langjan> thre wre two messages from maaz, but the second one he seems to have forgotten
[08:37] <Kilos> not a prob
[08:37] <Kilos> haha
[08:37] <Langjan> bots also forget
[08:37] <Langjan> lmga
[08:38] <Langjan> makes sense, theyre man-made
[08:38] <Langjan> take care
[08:38] <Kilos> you too
[08:38] <Kilos> enjoy your weekend
[08:38] <Kilos> ai!
[08:43] <mazal> I hate gravel !
[08:50] <Kilos> lol
[08:52] <mazal> Busy building a subway in mc and the gravel keep falling in everywhere
[08:52] <Kilos> lol
[08:53] <Kilos> build a retaining wall
[08:53] <Kilos> build a proper reinforced tunnel
[08:54] <Kilos> same as building under water
[08:54] <mazal> I am. Floors , walls ceilings. Looks nice
[08:55] <mazal> Rails I put in last
[09:03] <inetpro> good evening
[09:03] <inetpro> mazal: what is mc?
[09:03] <mazal> inetpro, minecraft
[09:04] <inetpro> oh my, you've turned to the dark side?
[09:04] <mazal> Uses 4 times less data , and have better gameplay features and content for survival play
[09:04] <inetpro> you paid for it?
[09:05] <mazal> Yep
[09:05] <mazal> Legal version
[09:05] <inetpro> ai!
[09:05] <mazal> I don't mind paying for something that is a good product
[09:07]  * inetpro prefers freedom
[09:07] <inetpro> which does not mean there's no price to pay
[09:08] <mazal> mc's price is best value for money I have seen in gaming and is nothing. You should see what my console game's in total cost lol
[09:09] <mazal> Those girls hurt you bad ! lol
[09:10] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[09:11] <mazal> Sjoe , almost done with backup 360 installs , one game left
[09:11] <mazal> Kilos, no I didn't buy anything today , that is one's I already have that I am installing on backup console
[09:11] <mazal> :P
[09:11] <Kilos> ok
[09:12] <mazal> But the day is young still :)
[09:14] <Kilos> ai!
[09:21] <mazal> Hehehe , but in all honosty , I won't buy any new stuff easily anymore. Is getting to expensive. I will rather continue to hunt down the old classics of previous gen
[09:21] <mazal> Checked a new release on Thursday. R900 , crazy
[09:21] <Kilos> hi bushtech 
[09:22] <bushtech> morning Kilos
[09:22] <Kilos> to spend that on a game is madess mazal 
[09:22] <mazal> I agree
[09:23] <mazal> Is why I am hunting the old stuff now. They are around R200
[09:23] <Kilos> you have enough games for a lifetime
[09:23] <mazal> I never had a 360 so all this old classics is new for mew now 
[09:23] <Kilos> tuen off the buying bug
[09:24] <Kilos> inetpro can you find maia and ask her if she is ok firstly then if she can orfer sticks for us please
[09:26] <Kilos> order
[10:45] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[10:45]  * Kilos watching rugby
[10:48] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[10:49] <gremble> I am trying to install a light fitting. But it was designed by an imbecile, so it is somewhat infuriating. 
[11:36] <Kilos> lol
[11:42] <inetpro> Kilos: you must buy those sticks for yourself man
[11:42] <inetpro> you can't have everything for free
[11:42] <Kilos>  no man im sure you order from canonical same as was with the dvds
[11:43] <Kilos> i dont even want one
[11:43] <Kilos> you forget why we used to get cds
[11:43] <pavlushka> inetpro, Hello!
[11:43] <Kilos> not all for me
[11:43] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[11:43] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm not so sure, talk to your guys in the committee
[11:44] <pavlushka> Hello Kilos !
[11:44] <inetpro> hi pavlushka
[11:44] <pavlushka> inetpro, miss you man!
[11:45] <inetpro> pavlushka: I'm here
[11:45] <Kilos> inetpro see forwarded mail
[11:46] <pavlushka> :)
[11:46] <Kilos> order should be in already
[11:48] <inetpro> gremble: hoekom sukkel jy so?
[11:48] <Kilos> or am i reading it wrong
[11:48] <inetpro> Kilos: talk to superfly and get the order in
[11:49] <Kilos> ai!
[11:49] <Kilos> just tell me where to find mia
[11:49] <Kilos> maia
[11:49] <inetpro> or talk to your guys and ask what is the process involved
[11:49] <Kilos> you always give me a hard time
[11:49] <gremble> inetpro, the person who designed the light didn't take into consideration that people would need fingers or screwdrivers to attach the fitting to the ceiling and to connect the electricity
[11:49] <Kilos> you and others here are my guys
[11:50] <inetpro> Kilos: guys in the cape will have to trace her for you
[11:50] <Kilos> oh isnt she on other channels
[11:50] <inetpro> gremble: they wanted you to pay someone
[11:50] <inetpro> Kilos: I have no idea
[11:51] <Kilos> what happened
[11:51] <Kilos> you normally find peeps quick
[11:51] <Kilos> you sick??
[11:51] <inetpro> I don't work for national intelligence
[11:52] <Kilos> haha
[11:52] <Kilos> ai!
[11:52] <Kilos> superfly ping
[11:52] <Kilos> Maaz seen superfly 
[11:52] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 22 hours, 8 minutes and 34 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-29 06:43:50 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-29 19:07:40 PDT
[11:52] <Kilos> the fly is busy man
[11:53] <inetpro> tell me who is not busy?
[11:53] <Kilos> you
[11:53] <inetpro> sure
[11:53] <Kilos> you the findit fixit guy
[12:01] <pavlushka> inetpro, Hello NSA calling.........
[13:18]  * mazal scratches head
[13:18] <mazal> What can I dl that's about 2gig
[13:18] <mazal> Need to use data up today
[13:19] <paddatrapper> mazal: Live ISO's should be about that
[13:19] <mazal> paddatrapper, I already have Kubuntu and Ubuntu iso
[13:19] <paddatrapper> Arch :D
[13:19] <mazal> oi
[13:19] <mazal> Jy want to make me sukkel ?
[13:20] <paddatrapper> lol. Arch is maklik man - follow the wiki
[13:20] <paddatrapper> Other than that 2gb of softwre?
[13:21] <paddatrapper> s/softwre/software
[13:22] <mazal> Lemme see what steam library have
[13:27] <paddatrapper> Otherwise Netflix/YouTube, etc
[14:02] <Kilos> paddatrapper nuvolari says he will try be here tonight
[14:02] <Kilos> he is a freestate child so speaks as it should be spoken hopefully
[14:02] <Kilos> hi bushtech you came again  back
[14:03] <paddatrapper> Great, I'll try remember to be online
[14:03] <Kilos> hehe
[14:03] <Kilos> i slept all avy again
[14:04] <Kilos> and redshift been off anyway
[14:04] <Kilos> must be old age
[14:05] <paddatrapper> I wish I could sleep today. Instead I'm covering a school rugby festival, whcih is fun in its own way
[14:05] <Kilos> have you got kids?
[14:07] <paddatrapper> No, covering it for my old High School
[14:07] <Kilos> cool
[14:07] <Kilos> good lad
[14:08] <paddatrapper> So much headache when I got here. Luckily all sorted now
[14:09] <Kilos> eish
[15:05] <skokkk> hey Kilos, what ubuntu version was that PC running I used the other day?
[15:06] <Kilos> hahahaha
[15:06] <Kilos> 14.04 kde
[15:06] <Kilos> kubuntu
[15:06] <Kilos> did you actually enjoy it
[15:07] <Kilos> you were too busy typing to enjoy it
[15:16] <skokkk> lol I just need the outdated software
[15:16] <Kilos> lol
[15:25] <Kilos> its only 2 years old man
[15:25] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:30] <mazal> That's just 20 years in IT terms
[15:31] <kobus> hi Kilos 
[15:31] <kobus> its me, Langjan
[15:38] <kobus> Kilos, chasing sheep?
[15:39] <Kilos> hi kobus 
[15:39] <Kilos> pumping water this time
[15:40]  * nuvolari cracks his knukles
[15:40] <nuvolari> *cough*
[15:40] <Kilos> wb nuvolari 
[15:40]  * nuvolari knak sy vingers
[15:40] <nuvolari> hallo oom Kilos :D
[15:40] <nuvolari> LTNC :-/
[15:40] <nuvolari> sorrie
[15:41] <Kilos> many mongths away hey
[15:41] <Kilos> months
[15:41] <Kilos> jy baie stout
[15:41] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit seun
[15:41] <nuvolari> nee hu uh, dis werk
[15:41] <Kilos> nee nee
[15:41] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom, en met oom?
[15:41] <Kilos> jy werk nie in die nag nie
[15:41] <Kilos> jy jol
[15:42] <Kilos> ek lewe nog darem
[15:42] <nuvolari> ek kyk series en het begin storie boeke lees
[15:42] <nuvolari> wel, is nou by my 2de boek :P
[15:42] <Kilos> haha
[15:42] <nuvolari> my ingelse lees het bietjie verswak :(
[15:42] <nuvolari> ek begin nou eers weer opbou aan my 'comprehension'
[15:43] <nuvolari> moes baie goed oor en oor lees voor ek onthou
[15:43] <Kilos> ons het jou dienste nodig in die volgende maande asb
[15:43] <Kilos> ek sal jou die lienks gee vir die taak
[15:44] <Kilos> wb kobus
[15:44] <Kilos> paddatrapper you here
[15:44] <kobus_> Hi Kilos sorry lost connection
[15:44] <nuvolari> aloha
[15:44] <nuvolari> is dit 'n transifex projek oom Kilos?
[15:44] <Kilos> np kobus_ 
[15:44] <Kilos> ek weet nie man
[15:45] <kobus_> Kilos, this system is not openng system settings
[15:45] <Kilos> dis n speletjie om kinders te leer lees en skryf
[15:45] <kobus_> it worked at home, here its dead
[15:45] <Kilos> um
[15:46] <Kilos> what does it do kobus_ 
[15:46] <Kilos> just nothing?
[15:46] <paddatrapper> Kilos: kinda ja
[15:46] <Kilos> ok type in konsole
[15:46] <nuvolari> lol! "Hello, complement of the day, I am Fatima, a kind responsible and humble girl, i saw your profile and like it.Please reply back at..." I didn't take transifex for a meeting site
[15:46] <kobus_> the gear works for shut down etc but system settings dooes not react
[15:46] <Kilos> sudo touch /forcefsck
[15:47] <kobus_> ok lets try
[15:47] <Kilos> then close everything and reboot
[15:47] <Kilos> that should check you file system for you
[15:48] <kobus_> ok going down
[15:48] <kobus_> thks
[15:48] <Kilos> ok
[15:48] <Kilos> nuvolari 
[15:48] <Kilos> http://raisingphoenicia.com/62
[15:48] <Kilos> first page
[15:49] <Kilos> http://www.sitepoint.com/really-good-introduction-xml/
[15:50] <Kilos> http://raisingphoenicia.com/localization
[15:51] <Kilos> nuvolari paddatrapper will do the voice recording for us
[15:51] <Kilos> the idea is to make the game available to afrikaans speaking kids here
[15:51]  * nuvolari checks it out
[15:51] <nuvolari> *kyk dit uit
[15:52] <gremble> :< For a site about reading and writing, they should try to not have spelling errors in their blogs
[15:53] <Kilos> haha he is very busy gremble 
[15:53] <Kilos> so everything is rush rush
[15:53] <Kilos> he does lots of the serious work to see we have ubuntu
[15:54] <kobus> Hi Kilos  still he same...eish!
[15:54] <paddatrapper> It seems like the translations also build the game. So it's not just translation of the words, but modifying it to work for learning Afrikaans
[15:54] <gremble> I'm not deriding the work. It looks pretty rad
[15:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:55] <kobus> back to windows...
[15:55] <Kilos> lets see what google finds kobus, what else isnt working
[15:55] <kobus> ?lmga
[15:55] <Kilos> only settings?
[15:55] <Kilos> never back to windows man
[15:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:56] <Kilos> nuvolari ken jy daai xml goed?
[15:56] <kobus> about also dead, help works, restart and shutdown works
[15:57] <Kilos> try this 
[15:57] <kobus> ok...
[15:57] <Kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[15:57] <Kilos> it might tell you to install aptitude first
[15:58]  * nuvolari kyk demo video
[15:58] <gremble> why aptitude and not apt-get?
[15:58] <nuvolari> nog nie by die XML uitgekom nie oom Kilos, maar ja, ek ken XML
[15:58] <Kilos>  because aptitude is easier to remember reinstall
[15:58] <gremble> Alright
[15:58] <kobus> command not found
[15:58] <kobus> no aptitude
[15:59] <Kilos> command would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[15:59] <Kilos> extra typing
[15:59] <Kilos> old fingers like lass typing gremble
[16:00] <Kilos> kobus sudo apt install aptitude
[16:00] <gremble> apt-get install
[16:01] <Kilos> apt install
[16:01] <kobus> running on apt-get
[16:01] <Kilos> works well
[16:01] <Kilos> remble you havent heard
[16:01] <kobus> apt install aptitude
[16:02] <Kilos> apt update and apt upgrade is the new way
[16:02] <gremble> My apologies. http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[16:02] <Kilos> sudo apt install aptitude
[16:02] <kobus> ok running
[16:03] <Kilos> apt is an improvement but i still enjoy aptitude
[16:03] <kobus> ok its working, many thanks
[16:03] <kobus> youre a wizard and an angel
[16:03] <Kilos> aptitude never gives me a message to run aoturemove
[16:03] <Kilos> yay that was a flook
[16:03] <Kilos> happy its working kobus 
[16:04] <Kilos> kobus dont forget
[16:04] <Kilos> oh you most likely get updates regularly
[16:05] <Kilos> mine are turned off for when data allows
[16:05] <kobus> ok Kilos thks
[16:05] <Kilos> you welcome
[16:05] <kobus> shutting down, bye for now
[16:05] <Kilos> cheers go well
[16:06] <kobus> thks youalso
[16:06] <Kilos> whew im happy that worked
[16:26] <nuvolari> waar kom ek nou in oom Kilos?
[16:27]  * nuvolari dink ons moet iemand kry wat weet wat om vir kinnertjies te leer
[16:28] <nuvolari> hmm, kinder boeke kan dalk help
[16:31] <Kilos> nuvolari 
[16:31] <Kilos> die opneem van woorde
[16:31] <Kilos> en letters
[16:31]  * nuvolari is skaam
[16:32]  * nuvolari hou nie van sy stem op 'n recording nie
[16:32] <nuvolari> :P
[16:32] <Kilos> nee man jy n vrystater
[16:32] <Kilos> dis om n miljoen afrikaners te leer
[16:32] <nuvolari> juis oom, vrystaters het sulke skurwe stemme. Ek wag nog vir my stem om te breek :'(
[16:33] <Kilos> lol
[16:33] <Kilos> nou dis net reg
[16:33] <Kilos> moenie stry nie
[16:33] <nuvolari> Ek dink daardie trein het reeds die stasie verlaat
[16:33] <nuvolari> ek gaan nooit 'n mooi diep stem hê wat 'n girl se bene lam maak nie
[16:33] <Kilos> dont look for problems , look for solutions
[16:34]  * nuvolari sal 'n brandblusser kannetjie saamsleep en dit inasem vir 'n dieper stem
[16:34] <Kilos> nee man vir wat
[16:34] <Kilos> n stem is n stem
[16:35] <nuvolari> maar so baie mense stem nie :(
[16:35] <nuvolari> ek het darm registreer
[16:35] <Kilos> dit moenie sexy klink nie dis on kinders te leer praat
[16:35]  * nuvolari praat met peer oor die reset knoppie
[16:36] <nuvolari> hoekom moet ek dan van die xml goed weet as ek recordings moet doen oom Kilos ?
[16:36]  * nuvolari probeer nog die kolletjies verbind
[16:36] <Kilos> so dat jy kan sien wat behelps dit
[16:36] <Kilos> miskien kan jy paddatrapper help
[16:37] <Kilos> hy se hy ken dit ook en kan opnames doen
[16:37] <Kilos> maar se hy kilink soos n siek nederlander
[16:38] <nuvolari> lol! ek klink soos 'n siek nederlander se pa. nie beter nie :P 
[16:38] <paddatrapper> Niemand hou van sy eie stem nie
[16:39] <paddatrapper> Op 'n recording
[16:39] <Kilos> i like mine
[16:39] <paddatrapper> Nice! I hate mine
[16:40] <Kilos> but talking not singing
[16:40] <Kilos> nuvolari praat met paddatrapper ek dink hy is naby jou ook
[16:41] <paddatrapper> My problem is I have an English accent, but spent a year in the Netherlands, so that ruined any hope of an Afrikaans accent
[16:43] <nuvolari> Ek weet net nie waar om te begin nie. Ek reken daar moet 'n plan wees vir wat geleer moet word in watter orde
[16:44] <nuvolari> a laptop mic is not going to cut it. Bad audio drives me to nuts
[16:44] <nuvolari> er
[16:44] <nuvolari> insanity
[16:45] <paddatrapper> I have an interface and mics. I am an sound engineer, so I understand the bad audio pain!
[16:46] <nuvolari> Cool! You in CT paddatrapper ?
[16:47] <Kilos> oor kant die vlei van vlieg
[16:47] <nuvolari> I'd be happy to help out uttering sounds 
[16:47] <paddatrapper> Definitely need to sort a script and anything. The stuff we need to record needs to match what is being typed in the xml, etc
[16:47] <paddatrapper> I'm in Muizenberg
[16:47] <nuvolari> oh! Bergliet, a stone's throw
[16:48] <Kilos> yay
[16:48] <nuvolari> *Bergvliet
[16:48] <nuvolari> yeah, I gathered that from all the documentation
[16:48] <nuvolari> what they did not make very clear is where the locale stuff is supposed to go in the project structure
[16:49] <nuvolari> is it a different github project?
[16:49] <Kilos>  make a list of questions and ill ask mhall
[16:50] <Kilos> nuvolari ill remember this
 I'd be happy to help out uttering sounds
[16:50] <Kilos> dankie seun
[16:50] <Kilos> we still have to work out the map part as well
[16:51] <paddatrapper> The locale stuff is what drives the levels - it determines what letters are introduced when and what words the build
[16:51] <paddatrapper> At least that is what I've gathered from playing the game a bit
[16:52] <nuvolari> yeah, https://youtu.be/OgF-OxpgWYk was quite helpful
[16:53] <paddatrapper> Sorry I'm taking a while to reply - busy packing up after a long day here
[16:53] <Langjan> Hi Kilos did the Lions turn up for their game?
[16:54] <nuvolari> Ooh, I'll ask on the southern suburbs FB group if there's anyone that know someone that knows what path to take (like a primary school/kindergarten teacher)
[16:54] <nuvolari> no problem paddatrapper 
[16:55] <Langjan> Sjoe, nuvolari and I thought they were the team to carry the SA flag this year...
[16:57] <Kilos> ai!
[16:57] <Kilos> 50/17
[16:57] <Kilos> shocking
[16:58] <Langjan> Back home, kobus very happy with his new toy, thanks you guys for helping 
[16:59] <Kilos> lol
[16:59] <Langjan> Ja Lions shell-shock
[16:59] <Kilos> why did you break it
[16:59] <Langjan> komaan
[17:00] <Langjan> hoe doen mens dit as jy hom af- en aansit? Dis ubuntu wat so pieperig is
[17:00] <Kilos> simple to explain
[17:00] <Kilos> unity
[17:00] <Langjan> lmga
[17:00] <Langjan> Youre like the ANC
[17:00] <Kilos> nono better
[17:00] <Langjan> alles is apartheid se skuld
[17:01] <Langjan> after 22 years
[17:01] <Kilos> no i go by experience
[17:01] <Langjan> so do they, so they say
[17:01] <Kilos> most repairs needed are on unity
[17:01] <Kilos> ask mazal
[17:02] <Langjan> must be because its so popular
[17:02] <Kilos> maybe 16.04 will be better once stable
[17:02] <Langjan> hopefully
[17:03] <Kilos> mazal was also unity fan but he eventually grew up
[17:03] <Kilos> just you i battle with
[17:03] <Langjan> but "most repairs" could simply mean many more users on unity 
[17:04] <Kilos> of course
[17:04] <Langjan> because its how ubuntu installs
[17:04] <Kilos> but i used unity and needed lts of help
[17:04] <Kilos> lots
[17:04] <Langjan> yes but you are old, thats why you need help 
[17:04] <Langjan> like me
[17:04] <Kilos> and i didnt get more clever just got a better system
[17:05] <Langjan> oumense het meer hulp nodig
[17:05] <Kilos> lol
[17:06] <Langjan> what time stormers kick-off?
[17:06] <Kilos> dunno
[17:06] <Kilos> must be soon i think
[17:06] <Kilos> and saw something about a game at 11.30pm
[17:06] <Kilos> ill be long asleep by then
[17:07] <Langjan> Thats Jaguares and Kings, stormers probably 19:10, gotta go eat and watch, 
[17:07] <Langjan> go well Kilos  and guys
[17:08] <Kilos> ty Langjan you look after you as well
[17:08] <Kilos> ai!
[17:14] <nuvolari> ack
[17:14] <nuvolari> still wanted to ask what he meant
[17:14] <Kilos> about?
[17:15] <Kilos> he has been covering school rugby today nuvolari 
[17:17] <nuvolari> oh, talking about Langjan oom kilos
[17:18] <nuvolari> 18:55:20         Langjan | Sjoe, nuvolari and I thought they were the team to carry the SA flag this year... 
[17:18] <Kilos> oh
[17:18] <Kilos> haha
[17:18] <Kilos> what he meant about what
[17:18] <nuvolari> exactly, I can't make sense of it
[17:18] <Kilos> oh'the lions are second on the za standings
[17:19] <Kilos> the they get a hiding like that
[17:19] <nuvolari> ok, asked for help on the FB page
[17:19] <nuvolari> hope I get a bite
[17:19] <Kilos> ai! you fb peeps
[17:20] <nuvolari> bah, had to get a tetanus shot today. Never had one before and today I got 2 dog teeth in my knee on the trail against Lions Head
[17:20] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:21] <nuvolari> haha, this morning I tried stuff on a frame that I was last able to do in primary school!
[17:21] <nuvolari> It felt good :D
[17:21] <Kilos> on a frame?
[17:21] <nuvolari> one of those training structures where you hang onto
[17:21] <nuvolari> like monkey bars?
[17:22] <Kilos> haha
[17:22] <nuvolari> Don't know what I'm going to feel like tomorrow morning, or whether I'm going to feel anything at all!
[17:22] <Kilos> i told you if you want to get fit and strong and have benefits from it go learn karate
[17:23] <nuvolari> last week sunday morning I could not get out of bed 
[17:23] <paddatrapper> Ouch
[17:24] <paddatrapper> I know a couple of primary school teachers who I can ask as well
[17:24] <Kilos> cool
[17:24] <Kilos> the more the merrier
[17:24]  * nuvolari moet môre oggend by 'n boekwinkel uitkom
[17:25] <nuvolari> or a library even
[17:25] <nuvolari> hmm.
[17:25] <Kilos> what books are you reading
[17:25] <nuvolari> eh? Oh, this is for Phoenicia.
[17:26] <Kilos> go look at second hand book shops or at flee markets
[17:26] <nuvolari> But I am currently reading Lirael, by Garth Nix
[17:26] <nuvolari> A friend got me interested in reading
[17:26] <Kilos> books are too expensive to buy new
[17:26] <nuvolari> yeah :-/
[17:27] <Kilos> i used to have a full set of wilbur smiths till about ten years ago
[17:27] <Kilos> and desmond bagley
[17:28] <Kilos> i enjoy adventure srories
[17:28] <nuvolari> I got a Kindle that I bought from my aggregated eBucks points! :D
[17:29] <nuvolari> It's rather expensive to buy though
[17:29] <Kilos> snows have fallen in eastern cape
[17:29] <Kilos> 10°c here tonight
[17:29] <nuvolari> if it wasn't my ebucks that paid for it, I would just have left it
[17:29] <nuvolari> ouch
[17:30] <nuvolari> monday and wendnesday was also 10°C this past week when I went out for training 
[17:30] <paddatrapper> I quite like using a 7" tablet for reading - allows me to do more than just read with it
[17:30] <Kilos> haha
[17:30] <Kilos> they even take pictures
[17:31] <nuvolari> well, a tablet lasts a couple of days, kindle lasts weeks :P
[17:31] <nuvolari> but yeah, a tablet does roughly the same thing. kindle feels closer to reading on paper though
[17:31] <Kilos> tablets get free books somewhere
[17:32] <nuvolari> ok, I'm going to be off for now
[17:32] <Kilos> my sisters eyes are oblong already
[17:32] <nuvolari> will check in again sometime soon
[17:32] <Kilos> nuvolari dont be scarce
[17:32] <Kilos> a daily greeting is good
[17:32] <nuvolari> I will try oom Kilos :)
[17:32] <Kilos> ty for popping in
[17:32] <nuvolari> that's a fair requirement :)
[17:32] <Kilos> 'look after yourself
[17:32] <nuvolari> I'll come pop in
[17:33] <Kilos> ty
[17:33] <nuvolari> you're welcome oom :) Have a good evening
[17:33] <Kilos> ty you too
[17:33] <nuvolari> ty!
[17:34] <Kilos> paddatrapper nuvolari is one of the guys that helped me when i thought pcs were only for clever people
[17:35] <paddatrapper> Oh cool. Haha
[17:45] <Kilos> inetpro you here?
[17:47] <Kilos> dont say you are always here
[17:48] <Kilos> here is if you can answer within a reasonably short period of time 
[17:48] <Kilos> like -10 mins
[17:50] <Kilos> or <10 mins i think it is
[18:48] <Kilos> whew stormers playing well with 14 men
[18:50] <Kilos> wb gremble 
[18:50] <Kilos> looks like everyone else is asleep
[18:50] <gremble> Thanks Kilos 
[18:54] <gremble> It is late on a Saturday night, they've all probably turned in
[18:54] <Kilos> yeah
[18:54] <Kilos> or they waiting for me to sleep so they cant get more work
[18:55] <gremble> That is another possibility
[18:55] <Kilos> lol
[19:20] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:57] <skokkk> What package contains the command strings?