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OerHeksksft, did you try logout/login again or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data ?? >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions?action=show&redirect=Howto%3A+Custom+keyboard+layout+definitions#How_to_load_changes00:00
lynx.net00:00
ksftOerHeks: I tried restarting00:01
ksftOerHeks: just ran `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data100:02
ksft`sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data`*00:02
ksftno output00:02
ksftstill not working00:02
derbieAnyone familiar with libGL error: failed to open drm device: No such file or directory libGL error: failed to load driver: vboxvideo00:06
de-factoderbie usually VirtualBox ships with a guest additions iso (must be the correct version), you mount that as a cd in your virtual machine (e.g. ubuntu.iso pri master, guest-additions.iso pri slave), boot, mount that and sudo ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.sh (or such) to compile the guest additions. then you can "lsmod | grep vbox" and "modinfo vboxvideo". if everything went smooth you can set a "passwd", log out of your live session, log in again (with00:24
de-factoyour password) and are all set00:24
jinjonboohey guys, anybody here can give me a tip in ripping audio CD's using LAME? need VBR presets etc, thx00:24
scrollbarhello, how do you increase the width of the gnome scrollbars in 16.0400:25
scrollbari upgraded from 14.04 using overlay scrollbars which i preferred00:25
scrollbarall documentation i can find is for outdated ubuntu releases00:26
de-facto!info abcde | jinjonboo00:26
ubottujinjonboo: abcde (source: abcde): A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.1-1 (xenial), package size 90 kB, installed size 303 kB00:26
derbiede-facto: thank you00:26
de-factoderbie there is also #vbox on freenode :)00:27
jinjonboothanks de-facto and ubottu :)00:27
goddardhi everyone00:29
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phchey hey00:44
andrilhey phc00:50
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Hydr0p0nXcan anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf blurays report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount01:03
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hfpHi all, I have a machine with two drives. One is for the OS and one is for storage. I guess I forgot about an old install or something but both drives have a bootable OS and partition. I updated the kernel and it added entries for both OSes on GRUB. Both OSes are Debian. How can I safely delete the system I dont use and reclaim the space on the storage drive? I'd rather not lose the data on the storage drive01:15
hfp(I dont care about the OS on that drive though). Can I just delete the partition as I would any other one? How do I know which partition has GRUB installed?01:15
bazhanghfp, is ubuntu in there somewhere01:16
fishbowlkraken__hey, I'm getting some stuttering and other problems with audio after upgrading to Xenial.01:17
fishbowlkraken__I know I'd fixed it somehow in Wily, but I can't for the life of me remember how.01:18
fishbowlkraken__I have that weird AMD Azalia card that causes so many problems01:18
bazhangfishbowlkraken__, in which instances, youtube, rhythmbox or what01:18
fishbowlkraken__yes.01:18
fishbowlkraken__I've tried Banshee, Youtube, even system sounds from time to time01:19
bazhangthat was multiple choice01:19
fishbowlkraken__yes it was, and I chose "all of the above"01:19
bazhangwhat is PCM set to in alsamixer01:19
fishbowlkraken__ooh, hey, in alsamixer it's showing something interesting.01:20
bazhangand how have you set things in pavucontrol and padevchooser01:20
fishbowlkraken__ooh, okay, that's a cool part.01:20
fishbowlkraken__and by cool I mean "ridiculous"01:21
fishbowlkraken__so if you have it set to be analog stereo output, which is what it is01:21
hfpbazhang: Ha sorry, I thought I was on #debian not #ubuntu... My bad01:21
fishbowlkraken__it randomly switches back and forth rapidly from headphone to line out settings01:21
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fishbowlkraken__and an additional stutter is added as it switches back and forth01:21
fishbowlkraken__despite the fact that the only audio device present is a single 3.5mm jack01:22
bazhangfishbowlkraken__, its nigh impossible to get your full output with so much enter01:22
fishbowlkraken__Right. Sorry, I've been using phone chat clients for too long. Lemme just go for all of it at once. Okay, If you have it set to analog stereo sound, it flips back and forth from headphone to line out settings. Despite there being only one audio out, totally static, the whole time. It's running through a jack that plugs into my keyboard, allowing my headphones to plug into that, but I tried plugging the headphones in di01:24
fishbowlkraken__rectly and the problem persists.01:24
precise_Hey guys, any idea why my 14.04 install USB will only boot in UEFI mode, I have would like to use the legacy option. Then when I boot into UEFI mode to install, I get to GRUB, I select the install option, then I get a blank screen. Any ideas why? I don't know what is going on because I have installed ubuntu on this laptop before.01:24
fishbowlkraken__It also has the occasional crackling and popping, which I'd had issues with before as well, and somehow I fixed them before. I've tried setting tsched = 0 in the pulse config, which apparently fixes some of this for some people, but to no avail. The other workaround is to set it to analog 4.0 sound, which used to work at the expense of some bass being lost, but that's not working now either for some reason01:28
Qasker-question: why were the bans and quiets removed for the spammers?01:28
Qasker-after they left, all ranges were removed01:28
Qasker-free to spam again01:28
Qasker-whomever controls  Drone` screwed up and removed spammer ranges01:31
hartsI have two VMs, and I'm trying to use one (which is running dnsmasq) as a dns server for the other. On the dns client VM, if I `dig some_domain @$OTHER_VM` it just hangs, but my networking settings allow this. I believe I need to modify my dnsmasq.conf to allow it to serve requests from the other VM, but does anyone know what?01:32
Qasker-ffs the list is infinite, no need to remove. its a database01:32
fishbowlkraken__I really wish I had the ability to just kill pulse and use ALSA. Why did we need Pulse, again?01:32
Qasker-bc alsa does not allow the same granular control01:33
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fishbowlkraken__like what?01:35
fishbowlkraken__I mean, what do I really miss by just having ALSA?01:35
Qaskeri may be totally wrong, and since no one is manning up to admit they fucked up removing ranges, it is unlikely someone will manup to correct me01:36
Qaskerthe driver is different01:36
fishbowlkraken__why can't Pulse be optional for people that do want those features, or at least something you can remove without having to dismantle your whole OS01:36
Qaskerwith pulse you can adjust volume of each speaker in the set. ALSA not possible01:36
fishbowlkraken__Alsamixer lets me do that, though.01:37
Qaskeralsamixer does not, for me01:37
Qaskeri need to use Pulse Audio mixer01:37
Qaskerwhich is sep install, not default ubuntu01:37
fishbowlkraken__http://i.imgur.com/tkCXL2O.png01:38
fishbowlkraken__pavucontrol is part of Ubuntu01:38
fishbowlkraken__but there's Alsa, letting me mess with whatever speakers I want01:38
fishbowlkraken__But anyway, bazhang, you still here?01:38
Qaskerthat looked like command line01:39
Qaskerpulse audio control01:39
Qaskerits a separate program from software center01:39
Qaskernot default on any flavor01:39
fishbowlkraken__oh, yeah iunno what that is. But why is that a super important feature?01:40
Qasker...unless 16.04 added it default, which is unlikely01:40
QaskerI use it for granular control of my sound system01:40
Qaskeri dont have such a tool with ALSA01:40
Qaskerafaik01:40
Qaskerbass, treble, independant speaker control, independant program control01:41
Qaskerlike i can make chromes default volume lower than my system volume01:41
grizzlymobileI love Ubuntu 16.04 sooooo awesome!!!!01:41
Qaskernice grizz. wlecome to the fam01:42
chinesesausageprefer Peach OSI myself01:42
chinesesausagebased on Ubuntu01:42
grizzlymobileElementary IO is a good one too01:42
fishbowlkraken__Pretty sure Chrome has its own volume controls that can be used by it, but whatever. Anyway, is there anyway I could disable Pulse without just destroying my OS?01:42
AndyWojois there a repo for openstack and 16.04 yet???01:42
Qaskerlol, you like the "popular" stuff01:42
grizzlymobileNot  fan of chrome. privacytools.io01:42
fishbowlkraken__because I don't care about precise bass, I care about it not popping and being a turd.01:43
grizzlymobilehaah @fiskbowlkraken__01:43
Qaskeri dont have an answer for you clambakeinacar01:43
fishbowlkraken__???01:43
Qaskerbesides pulse is better than alsa01:43
fishbowlkraken__that's great that you think that01:44
Qaskerfishbowl = clam bake in a car with all windows closed01:44
fishbowlkraken__but it's causing my sound card to be a crackly, popping mess.01:44
Qaskergrizzlymobile that is great site01:44
grizzlymobile@Qasker thanks.. Yeah I'm huge into privacy.01:44
grizzlymobileI like that Ubuntu decided to have a Security distro.01:44
Qaskerhmm. crackle, pop, and hiss. check grounding01:45
fishbowlkraken__I'm glad that you like all the special minutiae Pulse has to offer, but I'm not a fan. And again, It's only happening when Pulse is running.01:45
fishbowlkraken__Dude, this is a documented bug.01:45
Qaskerbesides that i dont have an answer. maybe someone is here does or maybe there is a specialized place with answers, like a pulse or alsa channel01:45
fishbowlkraken__Popping and crackling from pulse on certain soundcards, not related to electrical interference.01:45
Qaskeroh its only certain cards?01:46
Qaskerthats a driver issue01:46
Qaskerunless the cards are made shitty, which is unlikely in major market cards01:46
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Qaskerback in the day when i started w linux, the response was "go write your own driver" which was a really crappy response for a kid to hear01:48
Qaskerslackware 3.2 i think01:48
fishbowlkraken__It's an AMD card, and there are workarounds, but I've been trying them and they haven't been working01:49
fishbowlkraken__When I started out that was what I was told in regards to WLAN drivers, in 0701:49
Qaskerhaha. that was true back then. even if they were written it was mostly source you had to compile on your own01:50
fishbowlkraken__I had a shortcut to a shell script on the desktop I'd run to recompile it every time I rebooted01:51
fishbowlkraken__and lucky me, I had an atheros card. in 07/8, those were just greaaaaaaat01:52
Qaskershouldnt need to re-compile each time, just once01:52
Qaskeroh those were the cats ass back then01:52
fishbowlkraken__sorry. every time I rebooted after a kernel update01:53
fishbowlkraken__then I'd reboot again01:53
Qaskerkinda like orninoco chipset cards back in 04-0501:53
DHowettif i'm moving between LTS releases, is it better to go step-by-step (12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04) or is it safe to do all four years at once (12.04 -> 16.04)01:55
Qaskerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORiNOCO01:55
QaskerDHowett, other may have different opinion, but i would do a fresh install, after backup of data01:55
DHowettQasker: yeah, you're not wrong ;)01:55
DHowettQasker: my eventual goal is to completely repave the machine and part it out into smaller VMs01:56
DHowettit's a kitchen sink machine right now, and it's providing too many disparate services01:56
Qaskerthen you are best starting "fresh"01:56
fishbowlkraken__heh01:56
fishbowlkraken__okay, my lights flickered, so I'mma disconnect, because I have a bad feeling in regards to my power's stability01:57
Qaskerstill waiting for Drone` owner or person responsible for removing spammer ranges to explain why they un-did the work to prevent spammers01:58
Qaskerthis is #ubuntu, one of the largest channels here, PLEASE, tell me the ops here know how to use the network01:59
imthenachomanhey guys. i have a i5 system with 16 gb of ddr4 ram and a 128 m2 ssd with 2 tb hd for storage. gonna be used as a file server (with owncloud). any benefit to having 16 gb swap or is 8 gb enough?01:59
yoelishi everybody01:59
Qaskerbc that removing ranges was bullshit. they never should have been added. use akick01:59
Qaskerwhat size files will it be serving?01:59
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Qaskerimthenachoman: what size files will it be serving?02:00
imthenachomanmusic, pictures, maybe some 8 gb hd movies02:00
imthenachomanQasker: music, pictures, data files, maybe some 8 gb hd movies.02:00
Qaskerswap should be larger than the largest file you intend to write to it02:00
yoelisdouble of your ram memory02:01
imthenachomanscrew it, i have enough space. i'll leave it at 1602:01
imthenachomanthe default ubuntu sued02:01
imthenachomanused02:01
Qaskeryoelis when we have 32gb ram, a 64gb swap is not necessary02:01
Qaskerthose are old rules02:01
DHowettvery old, i reckon02:01
yoelisha ok thanks02:02
Qaskerimthenachoman 16 won't "hurt" you, unless you need the space for something else. prob wise to leave plenty of spwap space02:03
Qaskeralthough with 32gb ram, the times you will write something to swap will be rare02:03
imthenachomanQasker: i only have 16 gb ram02:03
yoelisbut normally when do you install ubuntu that do the swap partition02:04
yoelisor manually02:04
Qaskermake sure you optimize the ssd, turn off swapiness, use the parameters in fstab, etc02:04
imthenachomanyeah. i need to see how to do that. not sure how02:04
Qaskeryoelis i think default is now 1.5x ram size. not sure if it adjusts for high ram amounts02:05
imthenachomani think there are articles online but i'll have to find em. if you have any good tutorials on it i'm all years02:05
daxhaven't bothered with swap since the 4GB days. if something's using 4GB of RAM, the OOM killer is quite welcome to have its way with it02:05
DHowettdax++02:05
yoelisha ok thanks02:05
daxdifferent story if you need hibernate, but I don't and fileservers don't02:05
imthenachomandax: agreed02:05
imthenachomaneh. my main OS is on a 128 gb SSD which will ONLY have the OS on it. 2 TB for everything else02:06
imthenachomanthe few apps i'll install wont take space like owncloud02:06
Qaskerhttps://www.leaseweb.com/labs/2013/07/5-crucial-optimizations-for-ssd-usage-in-ubuntu-linux/02:06
Qaskerhttps://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization02:06
Qaskerhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/solid-state-drives-get-one-already02:06
Qaskerlove the journal02:06
gbellAnybody else had a Win10 upgrade kill of their linux partitions?02:07
Qaskergbell isnt that expected?02:07
gbellWin7 and before never did.02:08
Qaskersure they do. they overwrite MBR02:08
DHowettQasker: i've never seen that02:08
Qaskerthey dont kill the linux system, just remove access to it02:08
DHowettin attended setup they only touch the partitions you specify02:08
DHowettand stomp the bootloader02:08
DHowettbut with UEFI, you're generally safe02:08
gbellNaw, they just changed the boot loader, not the MBR.  I got complacent and didn't read up.  "That hasn't happened in 15 years" thought brain.  Luckily it was just my laptop.02:08
yoeliswhere i can fine medical applications02:09
yoelisi am physical therapist and i need that in linux02:10
Qaskeryeah MBR on old versions, UEFI on newer versions. doesn't matter, winblows overwrites. best to install or upgrade winblows, then fix wioth linux02:11
gbellIt didn't used to kill other partitions, is what I'm saying.  Win10 does.02:11
Qaskeryoelis looking for practice management along with HIPPA-compliant "notes" system02:11
pringles5I put my Ubuntu on an external hard drive to avoid all that02:12
reisioHIPAA* :)02:12
akikgbell: have you checked in a live session that the linux partition is gone?02:12
gbellyes.02:12
Qaskeroh, i just assumed all windows kill eveything. that has always been my assumption and it has not been wrong yet. winblows sucks. we cant expect it to keep our data or other OS' safe02:12
akikdamn02:12
QaskerHITECH is more precise02:13
Qaskerive read both laws02:13
gbellAnd this was on an upgrade.  There was already an NTFS partition for it to use...02:13
DHowettI can't say I agree, having spent a lot of time happily using both platforms. It's got its place, and its benefits, and while it was heavyhanded before it seems to take a more genial approach now02:13
pringles5Microsoft has been very aggressive about forcing people to upgrade to Win 10 so it doesn't surprise me to hear that it might wipe other OS partitions02:13
DHowettgbell: was it an automatic upgrade from 7?02:13
DHowettit just reallocated the full space ( - ~400MB ) for itself?02:14
gbell@DHowett yep to both.02:14
DHowettinteresting02:14
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gbellAnd making a backup of the partition table doesn't help if WIn10 overwrites the table and then writes to a new whole-disk partition.02:15
DHowettright. that sucks02:16
DHowetti can't speak for the automatic upgrade process, but i've never seen it do that in manual installs02:16
gbellSame.02:17
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DHowettsorry man02:17
gbellThis guy seems to think that, even if it wipes the partition table, it somehow won't write to the parts of the disk the old partitions referred to. http://askubuntu.com/a/662714/30068502:17
gbell@DHowett : Thanks, but it was a lightly used laptop.  Just trying to figure out how to upgrade my main machine's Win7 partition without killing my daily workhorse linux partitions.  Don't really like having to buy a new disk every upgrade!02:18
DHowettgbell: might be worth it to back up the main and then try a manual win10 upgrade now that you have a safety net02:20
gbellYeah.  I never like to have to rely on my backups like that.  Ah well, new drive not that expensive.02:21
gbellWait, one's an SSD!02:21
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QaskerI would describe it as intrusive and unnecessarily aggressive. "genial" would not enter the discussion02:25
akikgbell: according to those comments, it's possible to rescue the partition table with testdisk02:29
gbell@akik: It's unclear how testdisk would do that... they all get marked as NTFS partitions (that *may* have been what happened to me, but what I recall is that it killed them off completely and left one big NTFS partition).02:30
akikbut i'm sure if would also have one of those wtf moments02:30
akiki would02:30
akikacer's recovery environment software warned that it would remove the partitions of the flash device that was used. i had a 2 terabyte hard disk that i wanted to use so i prepared one ntfs partition on it. after the creation of the rescue environment there was one 32 gigabyte partition on that big disk02:35
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* reisio wouldn't run acer software02:37
reisioyou can backup a Windows install with sfdisk/sgdisk & ntfsclone, and dd for the boot loader if you want02:38
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rsully16.04 ships with zfs? is it available during install process?02:42
akikhere http://askubuntu.com/questions/665445/upgraded-to-windows-10-on-dual-boot-and-cant-boot-to-ubuntu-partition?lq=1 kvangent had success using parted rescue02:42
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Abe_am I in offtopic?02:49
sansayHey guys does anyone know the command to enter the varnish terminal on my server?02:50
Abe_this is offtopic right?02:50
akikAbe_: no02:50
daxAbe_: this is #ubuntu. for -offtopic, /join #ubuntu-offtopic02:50
Abe_lol I was pretty sure i'm in offtopic02:51
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Dougie187How do I move a LUKS header from one drive to another?02:53
zproc_Hello02:55
zproc_my Ubuntu 15.10 suddenly boots to busybox... i don't know what happened... is there anything i can do to save the install?02:56
snoppenh02:58
zproc_weird thing but i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox03:03
Bashing-omzproc_: There is also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594052 .03:05
Finetundraevening folks, every time I try to run apt-get install I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) in return03:06
robotdevil1EriC^^: ha finally03:06
FinetundraCan someone help me resolve this?03:06
robotdevil1EriC^^: thanks for your help03:06
robotdevil1EriC^^: hard for me wrap m head around something I think is so stupid lol03:07
robotdevil1linuxmodder: also thanks to you too03:07
Bashing-omFinetundra: Post the command and the full output in a pastebin so we get all in context .03:08
FinetundraBashing-om: erm nevermind that. It seems to have magically resolved its issues03:12
Bashing-omFinetundra: Love it when the system heals it's self :)03:12
FinetundraIt annoys me03:13
FinetundraCause every time it does that it's after I've asked you guys a question03:13
snapsnailI'm really struggling with a IPTables issues. I posted it in AskUbuntu and I'm not getting any bites. Can anyone help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/764101/iptables-config-to-passthrough-internet-16-0403:13
FinetundraAnd then I feel like I've needlessly bothered you guys03:13
Bashing-omFinetundra: Inquiring minds want to know .. read the logs :)03:13
FinetundraBashing-om: which particular log do you want?03:16
zproc_Yep, choosing another superblock fixed the boot to busybox/initramfs03:16
wellytomhi guys03:16
wellytomwassup03:16
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Bashing-omFinetundra: Oj .. I do not want .. but you might find /var/log/dpkg.log ; dpkg.log.1 of interest .03:17
wellytomguys, i have windows 10 on my PC and after a lot of shits i decided to try linux system03:18
flapjackstop swearing, my moms watching!!!03:18
Bashing-om! cookie | zproc_03:18
ubottuzproc_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:18
wellytomi downloaded this new version of ubuntu but i can't boot the system to install this :(03:18
prestonwellytom: what is it saying03:19
zproc_Bashing-om well, thanks? I helped myself, yes.. well...03:19
prestondoes it boot to grub03:19
Bashing-om!uefi | wellytom03:19
ubottuwellytom: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI03:19
wellytomhmm i'll check this, thx guys03:20
Bashing-omzproc_: cookie cause I can not get !Yah to work for me .03:20
prestonlegacy bios is cooler03:20
prestonim tired as shit goodnight03:24
flapjackstop swearing, my moms watching!!!03:24
* dax sighs03:24
dax~help03:25
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RoosterHello?03:26
Sebastienhi03:27
RoosterI don't think this is Ubuntuprelated, but does anyone know how I can create a shell account?03:27
RoosterUbuntu-related*03:27
LambdaComplexshell account?03:28
zproc_new user on your system or...?03:28
RoosterAn account I can usr to create a secure connection to IRC?03:28
Roosteruse*03:28
daxprobably better off asking #freenode03:29
RoosterThanks, didn't know where to ask03:29
drew__hello03:30
vijuIt's taking forever to install some softwares, I am using ubuntu software.03:38
vijuIt's stuck there. What can be done?03:39
lotuspsychjeviju: what software are we talking about?03:41
Qaskeris another process interrupting?03:42
criptomanohi! i have installed ubuntu on a LVM volume which its physical volume is encrypted with cryptsetup. I'm trying to configure grub2 to boot this installation but it doesn't ask me to type the disk password and throws an error saying no such device. Did anybody do something like this?03:45
criptomanoi am using the grub configuration of arch linux (it is also installed on an encrypted lvm volume) and it does ask for disk password03:46
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RoosterDoes anyone use irssi? or XChat?03:48
RoosterI don't know what to choose for IRC03:48
kisbhexchat03:49
smatichello all03:49
Roosterkisb, is that run from the terminal like irssi?03:49
Roosterran*03:49
kisbRooster, no its gui for big boys03:49
nchambersDon't use xchat. Its dead03:50
RoosterThanks, I guess it's time to become a big boy. I'm new to IRC.03:50
daxuse weechat or hexchat.03:50
wasleywhy its dead, I'm use the xchat now03:51
daxfirst is command-line, second is graphical03:51
daxwasley: unmaintained upstream, switch to hexchat03:51
daxit's like xchat except not abandoned03:51
RoosterSorry to sound dumb, but what do you mean upstream?03:51
daxRooster: upstream = the people who actually make the software03:51
daxas opposed to e.g. Ubuntu that just packages it up03:51
RoosterS it's unsupported?03:51
RoosterSo*03:51
daxxchat development is dead03:52
RoosterOkay, gotcha03:52
vijulotuspsychje, I am installing open arena and supertux racing03:53
RoosterUbuntu isn't on the server list for Hexchat?03:53
nolsenIs amd64-microcode needed? does it make any improvements?03:53
vijuAnd it's stuck there for last half an hour.03:54
lotuspsychjeviju: abort, reboot and start again perhaps from terminal to see whats going on?03:54
smaticas I can Decrypt an encrypted drive :(03:54
daxRooster: Ubuntu IRC = freenode03:55
daxRooster: irc.ubuntu.com just aliases to chat.freenode.net03:55
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Rookief03:55
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Roosterr03:56
RoosterWhat's so special about Hexchat, it has the exact same gui as XChat?03:57
daxit's been updated in the last 5 years, unlike xchat03:58
daxread: it gets security and bugfix updates, unlike xchat03:58
RoosterI see03:58
reisioxchat is dead03:59
LambdaComplexwhy do people still use xchat03:59
reisiothey're using old installs04:00
RoosterBecause they don't know it's dead, like me lol04:00
reisiolike "LTS" :p04:00
reisiothey've opted to avoid updating, on purpose... :p04:00
RoosterI still use LTS, is that bad?04:00
reisioRooster: it's not bad, but it's silly, if you think it's getting you anything worth having04:00
denysoniqueWell04:00
LambdaComplex"maybe"04:00
denysoniqueI just learned now from you about Hexchat04:00
denysoniqueright now I am on XChat04:00
reisioright, and you're using old Ubuntu04:00
RoosterSo, what you're telling me is I should just do a fresh install over it with 16?04:01
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reisioRooster: nope04:01
smaticfucushu45604:01
vijuHow do I stop the installation then?04:01
reisioviju: of what?04:01
denysonique14.04LTS04:01
RoosterI can't upgrade versions anyway, so I'm stuck here because I don't know why I can't.04:01
denysoniquebut I guess there must be a ppa for hexchat04:02
RoosterIt kinda pisses me off04:02
vijureisio, I am installing some games, but it's stuck for a while now.04:02
reisiodenysonique: right, really, really old04:02
reisioviju: killing the process /should/ have no ill effects04:02
reisioRooster: that'd be annoying04:03
denysoniquereisio, I used to run a Gentoo install that was rebuilding everything from git everyday04:03
denysoniquebleeding edge04:03
smatichow to access my home enriptada from another user or a live cd?04:03
RoosterDoes anyone else have problems upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 through update manager?04:03
vijureisio, how?04:03
reisiodenysonique: sounds excessive04:04
reisioviju: this the 'Software' gui?04:04
vijuyes04:04
reisioviju: you can run 'xkill', then click on the window04:04
vijureisio, the window is already closed.04:05
reisioviju: so what's the problem?04:05
vijuThe process is running in the background that's stopping me from using the command line apt-get04:06
Ben64Rooster: why would you upgrade not to 16.0404:06
RoosterBecause I can't do it through the update manager and to upgrade straight 16.04 I would have to install it over 14.04 and I have a bunch of stuff I want to save.04:06
vijureisio, I was installing some games. And then it stuck for an hour now. The Ubuntu Software is as unstable as before and I have no idea how to find it's pid and kill it.04:07
denysonique14.04 LTS is until 2019, I personally don't see a valid reason to upgrade04:07
vijuI just want those games installed.04:07
RoosterI just like having the latest version04:07
Ben64Rooster: no, you can upgrade straight to 16.04, it's just not offered until 16.04.104:07
denysoniqueI prefer to not spend time on upgrading/installing stuff04:07
vijudenysonique, yes there shouldnt be any reason. It's like we are forced to upgrade.04:08
reisioviju: what makes you think it's running?04:08
RoosterBen64, care to enlighten me? I have no idea how to go straight to 16.0404:08
kisbupgrade keeps your files04:08
denysoniqueThe reason I switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu on my desktop is to have a peace of mind04:08
vijureisio, because I tried apt-get and there's a lock04:08
Ben64Rooster: did you change anything04:08
denysoniquehence I am reluctant to upgrades and so on04:08
RoosterBen64, I think I may have third-party repositories that stop me?04:09
denysoniquebtw, I thought there was going to be some sort of rolling-release Ubuntu?04:09
Ben64Rooster: i mean did you change the upgrade thing from LTS to something else04:10
RoosterBen64, No04:10
Ben64Rooster: then 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' should start the process, but be aware, it's not recommended to upgrade from 14.04 until 16.04.104:11
daxdenysonique: nope04:11
daxdenysonique: it gets considered every so often, but nobody wants to maintain it04:11
dax!info hexchat trusty04:12
ubottuhexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.6.1-2ubuntu0.1 (trusty), package size 317 kB, installed size 1024 kB04:12
daxthought so.04:12
RoosterBen64, yes, but it takes me to 15.10 before 16.0404:12
denysoniqueWhy Ubuntu has not sorted out single init scripts by 16.04 yet?04:12
daxdenysonique: elaborate on "single init scripts"04:12
denysoniqueSome are in /etc/init and some in /etc/init.d/04:12
denysoniqueand there is no single tool to manage them all04:13
denysoniqueDon't you think that is a mess?04:13
RoosterBen64, it says "404 Not Found".04:13
Ben64Rooster: what is the output of "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | grep Prompt"04:13
d4rl3n3#04:13
daxdenysonique: the default init daemon on a given Ubuntu version manages both its scripts and legacy sysvinit scripts just fine04:13
RoosterBen64: "Prompt=normal"04:14
daxRooster: change that to Prompt=lts, then do the -d command again04:14
Ben64Rooster: so you did change it....04:14
denysoniquedax, I am talking about a userspace program for adding/removing them04:14
RoosterHow do I change the Prompt?04:14
denysoniqueactually, enabling/disabling them04:14
RoosterI haven't done anything, honestly.04:14
Ben64Rooster: sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades04:15
smatichow to access my home encrypt from live cd?04:15
daxdenysonique: no idea how to do it on old Ubuntu that still uses upstart, but on modern systemd Ubuntus, sudo systemctl servicenamehere disable works fine for both04:16
dax(note: this is because i haven't used upstart in years, not because it's not possible, i assume)04:16
RoosterBen64: Alright, I changed it. Should I try running the update command again?04:16
daxanyways, going afk04:17
Ben64Rooster: yeah it should work, might need a "sudo apt-get update" first04:17
RoosterAlready did04:17
snapsnailHello04:17
denysoniquedax, thats nice, you are right, I just checked it out, and systemd successfully can manage an apache2 /etc/init.d/ script04:18
denysoniqueon 16.0404:18
snapsnailAre there any IPTables wizards out there?04:18
reisiosnapsnail: #netfilter04:18
RoosterIT WORKED04:19
snapsnailSweet, I'll check over there.04:19
RoosterBen64: Thank you! How do you know this?04:19
RoosterI've been googling for the past month and can't get any answers.04:19
Bashing-omRooster: Ben64 has a smart bump .. he rubs as required .04:23
RoosterI'm assuming that means he's intelligent, but the analogy weird lol04:24
RoosterI'm so damn happy right now04:25
reisiogj04:26
Guest73494Not sure if I should be asking this in #windows or #ubuntu; the answer to that question has gotten a lot more vague ever since MSOFT brought Bash to their OS.04:27
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EmberCrestAlways forget to do that.04:27
reisioEmberCrest: do what, ask a question? :p04:27
RoosterLol, what's the question?04:27
EmberCrestHaha no, change my nick after I Identify.04:27
lotuspsychje!ubuwin | EmberCrest04:27
ubottuEmberCrest: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.04:27
reisioyay spam...04:27
EmberCrestOh okay04:28
EmberCrestthat actually makes things a lot easier, but this could actually apply well to my Ubuntu box too04:28
* reisio headdesks04:28
reisio'this' is a real problem these days04:28
reisioseems like it's affecting everyone04:28
EmberCrestIf I'm running an older version of Ubuntu, is there any way to force apt-get to download the latest version of a package?04:29
RoosterSpam where?04:29
reisioRooster: exactly04:29
EmberCrestSeems as though the version that gets downloaded is dependent on how compatible it is with the OS release.04:29
lotuspsychjeEmberCrest: lets hope not an EOL version...04:29
Roosteroh lol04:30
reisioEmberCrest: there is no straightforward, simple way that I know of; technically possible, yes04:30
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EmberCresthm ok. I have irssi 0.8.15 and I want 0.8.18, but ubuntu-on-win is only in version 14.0.404:30
lotuspsychjeEmberCrest: and your versions is...?04:31
reisioEmberCrest: why do you want .18?04:31
reisiolotuspsychje: nice04:31
EmberCrestlotus: of ubuntu? 14.0404:31
EmberCrestreisio: SASL is incorporated by default; no need for a perl script.04:31
lotuspsychje!latest | EmberCrest04:31
ubottuEmberCrest: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.04:31
EmberCrest!backports04:32
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging04:32
RoosterHow do you guys know about all this?04:32
EmberCrest^^04:32
EmberCrestVeteran Linux users I guess.04:32
LearnerHi guys, I have some questions about python in ubuntu04:32
LambdaComplexthen ask them04:33
RoosterI've been using linux for about 3 years now and I have not even half the knowledge they have right now04:33
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EmberCrestWell Linux has been around for far longer than 3 years.04:33
RoosterI know that but seriously, I feel 'noobish'.04:33
LearnerOK, I am using ubuntu and kivy to convert an app in .py into .apk, but I think some of the extensions are not in the python-to-android recipes04:33
lotuspsychje!discuss | Rooster04:34
ubottuRooster: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!04:34
Roosterlotuspsychje: what?04:34
Bashing-omEmberCrest: " #irssi: Latest version: 0.8.19 " join #irssi for details .04:34
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EmberCrestBashing-om: doesnt really help but thanks.04:34
EmberCrestactually04:34
minitruelotuspsychje: sometimes communication is a little bit more complex than an answer in stackoverflow04:34
EmberCrestit might never mind.04:34
lotuspsychjeRooster: it means, if you dont have an ubuntu question plz use the other chat channels04:34
Roosteroh sorry, thanks!04:35
lotuspsychjeminitrue: meaning?04:35
Learneryes my question is about ubuntu04:35
LearnerI have two versions of python in my ubuntu: one at /usr/lib/python2.7 and another at /usr/local/lib/python2.704:36
minitruelotuspsychje: I understand that sometimes the out of topic conversations can be counterproductive04:36
lotuspsychjeminitrue: they surely can, if its related to a specific issue..wich was not this case04:37
Learnerif you guys don't think it's a ubuntu question, I will leave, is it more appropriate to be at python or kivy?04:37
minitruelotuspsychje: yes, but sometimes even a small shift is condemned04:37
cfhowlettLearner, that is normal04:37
Learnerthe problem is in terminal, i can pip install modules, but after going into 'python', I get an error message saying I don't have that package. Is that a problem of not putting both paths as PYTHONPATH?04:39
minitrueI remember someone trying to fix a problem and he said that it all started with systemd that he was frustrated, and someone send him to #ubuntu-discuss04:39
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lotuspsychjeminitrue: thats not what i did...and lets dicuss this not here but in #ubuntu-discuss plz04:40
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Roosterlotuspsychje: So, the upgrade is asking me if it should auto-restart the libraries instead of my manually checking each one. Should I do auto?04:52
lotuspsychjeRooster: i wasnt following your issue with Ben64 sorry04:53
wellytomYo guys04:54
wellytomi'm back04:54
wellytomwell, i installed ubuntu o//04:54
wellytomthx for the help, again04:54
lotuspsychjewellytom: you remember who helped you?04:55
Roosterlotuspsychje, nvm I got it04:55
Bashing-omwellytom: gj .. glad you made it .04:55
wellytomi dont :( it was really fast haha04:55
wellytombtw, i saw on videos that the programs for ubuntu is easily found on ubuntu "store"04:56
wellytombut it seems to have a REALLY feel programs there04:56
wellytomits cuz the developers do not update to this new version of ubuntu?04:57
kisbthe programs are there04:58
Solarbabywellytom: you could install the Ubuntu-Mate-welcome, which is another Ubuntu store that I'd say is much more helpful04:58
Bashing-omwellytom: What release did you install ?.. 16.04 in in the midst of re-organizing .04:59
wellytomUbuntu 16.04 LTS05:00
wellytomthe first one I saw on the website xD05:00
wellytommaybe i should install some older version?05:01
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wellytomand Solarbaby , i'll check this ubuntu-mate-welcome . Thx for the suggestion05:03
Solarbabywellytom: anytime!05:03
wellytomsolarbaby , i read in somewhere that exist channels from local communites05:06
minitrueRooster: why do you want to use ssh to connect to irc?  if you want to have the content encrypted you can use ssl, how to do that depends on your irc cliente.05:06
Roosterminitrue: Well, not necessarily SSH, but I just want a secure connection to IRC05:07
minitrueRooster: you should be able to configure that in your irc cliente, for example in irc you usr -ssl and port 6697 for freenode05:09
minitrue* in irssi05:10
Roosterminitrue: I stopped using irssi because Hexchat seemed to be a more supported program05:10
Roosterminitrue: and irssi is run from the terminal and I have no idea how to SSL with it05:11
mohsen-rashidiHi. I want to connect to my Ubuntu box through my phone but the phone shows an error. I can ssh to my computer but not sftp. what am I doing wrong?05:11
Zennhi guys, I know this has been asked almost most of the time, but should I switch to Ubuntu, coming from Windows 7 as Im gotten sick of the speed and security of windows, I downgraded from Windows 10 btw.05:14
lotuspsychjeZenn: do you want single boot or dualboot?05:14
ZennI have no reason to let windows run on my system, maybe the need of microsoft office etc05:15
Zennbut I think there is a open source one which is better.05:15
lotuspsychjeZenn: libreoffice is installed by default on ubuntu05:15
lotuspsychjeZenn: so we surely recommend installing ubuntu :p05:15
Roosterminitrue: so I just run ssl by command and put a server and port number?05:15
Zenncan we run office excel on it etc and vice versa05:15
lotuspsychje!download | Zenn05:15
ubottuZenn: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Xenial, and help keeping the servers' load low!05:15
Zennso when I open it on a windows com it will work just fine.05:16
lotuspsychjeZenn: the libreoffice documents can be stored as .doc .docx etc also yes05:16
Zennno formatting issues?05:16
lotuspsychjeZenn: the ubuntu install is pretty intuitive and will guide you through the process05:16
lotuspsychjeZenn: is your system uefi?05:16
ZennI meant opening excel file vice versa etc on windows and ubuntu05:17
Zennwont it messed anything up?05:17
lotuspsychjeZenn: the documents exchange well in between ms office and libreoffice05:17
Zennuh that's nice.05:18
Zennseems like ubuntu has the others covered.05:18
lotuspsychjeZenn: and there is a #libreoffice help channel, if needed05:18
Zennanother thing I have a intel 4000 gfx card with Nvidia 710m dual graphic card05:19
Zennwill Ubuntu install it?05:19
ZennClient: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.60GHz) • Memory: 3.8 GiB Total (1.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 93.6 GiB / 465.4 GiB (371.8 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA GeForce 710M • Uptime: 36m 52s05:19
lotuspsychjeZenn: you can test ubuntu in a liveusb, check features for yourself might also be handy05:19
Zenncurrent specs05:19
Bashing-omRooster: See: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup for SSL .05:20
Zennok need to install it on my USB?05:20
lotuspsychjeZenn: if you enable internet/cable, enable updates during setup and 3rd party software ubuntu will try to choose best drivers for you05:20
lotuspsychje!usb | Zenn yes05:20
ubottuZenn yes: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent05:20
Zennwow this is awesome05:21
lotuspsychjeZenn: universal usb installer is pretty neat from windows05:21
lotuspsychjeZenn: perhaps also choose an LTS version05:21
Zennwell I have windows now05:21
Zenno.o so how do I install it into my usb drive05:21
lotuspsychjeZenn: choose the right ubuntu .iso at ubuntu.com and let the program burn it on stick05:22
Zennyes the program ? any recommandation ?05:22
lotuspsychjeZenn: universal usb installer (from windows)05:22
RoosterBashing-om: I don't see anything about securing the shell.05:23
lotuspsychjeZenn: other things to choose: your ubuntu flavor, your architecture and LTS or non-LTS05:23
Zennthe newest one is 13.04?05:24
Zennx64?05:24
lotuspsychjeZenn: no, 16.0405:24
Zennhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ ?05:25
lotuspsychjeZenn: yes thats the one05:25
lotuspsychje!flavors | Zenn05:26
ubottuZenn: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE05:26
Zennany reason to use Others?05:26
lotuspsychjeZenn: well that is the users choice really05:26
Zennwell I will just use Ubuntu05:26
lotuspsychjeZenn: there are likes/dislikes for everyone05:27
lotuspsychjeZenn: if you like unity, ubuntu-desktop 14.04 or 16.04 will do fine05:27
Zennuh http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ which one should I choose?05:27
Zenn32 or 64 bit?05:27
lotuspsychjeZenn: if your cpu is 64bit capable, choose ubuntu 64bit05:28
Roostermy question remains unanswered...05:28
Zennyes 64 bit capable05:28
lotuspsychjeRooster: its wise to re-ask once in a while, so other helpers can try to solve05:28
Zennwhat is i386?05:28
lotuspsychjeZenn: 32bit05:28
lotuspsychjeZenn: x86_64 the 6'bit05:29
lotuspsychje6405:29
ubuntu-matehello, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu, the installer gives me an error 5... says that my hardware is faulty, although it is working gine05:30
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ubuntu-mate*fine05:32
ubuntu-mateany help or advice? I have not found the solution to the problem05:37
Zennlotuspsychje, Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2).05:38
ZennI have a 64 bit05:38
ZennClient: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.60GHz) • Memory: 3.8 GiB Total (1.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 95.9 GiB / 467.4 GiB (371.5 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA GeForce 710M • Uptime: 55m 47s05:38
Zennbut It isnt amd05:38
lotuspsychjeZenn: yes, but amd64 is the general name for 64bit05:38
Zennso it should work fine on install?05:39
ubuntu-mateyes05:39
lotuspsychjeZenn: if your cpu is 64bit capable yes05:39
Zennit is 64 bit capable.05:39
Zennoh alright thanks.05:39
Zenn:)05:39
lotuspsychjeZenn: ok good luck mate05:39
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: ubuntu version? uefi?05:39
ubuntu-mate64 bit my computer is in bios mode05:40
Zennis ubuntu open source? o.o by canonical?05:40
Zennis there a place where I can see the source code?05:40
lotuspsychjeZenn: and welcome to the ubuntu community, if you need anything after install come back here05:40
ubuntu-mateI removed everything from the drive I tried installing the grub and it failed.05:40
ubuntu-mateI also tried installing arch and it failed too05:40
lotuspsychje!gnu | Zenn05:41
ubottuZenn: G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org05:41
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: you sure you disabled fastboot and secureboot?05:41
ubuntu-mateyes, I have it all disabled05:41
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mohsen-rashidiI can`t connect to my computer through sftp but i can ssh to it. what`s the problem?05:42
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: at wich step exactly the setup fail?05:42
ubuntu-mategenerating the fstab thingy,05:42
ubuntu-mateand the installing bootloader05:42
ubuntu-mateleme get you the error from the ubuntu installer05:42
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: are you manually partitoning?05:42
ubuntu-mateit is only one partition and one drive.05:43
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: so ubuntu setup automatic partitioning?05:43
ubuntu-mateyes05:43
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: wich ubuntu iso did you download exactly?05:44
ubuntu-mate64bit 16.04LTS05:44
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: not alpha or daily or so right?05:44
ubuntu-mateyes, the normal one05:45
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: did you md5 after iso download?05:45
ubuntu-matethe installer is now quiting when I select install05:45
ubuntu-mateno05:45
clear`im also having an install problem with 16.04, but im trying a few different things first05:46
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: so the setup never reaches your harddisk?05:46
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: what kind of harddisk do you have?05:47
ubuntu-mateit was going through the installation till the part of copying files and then quits midway with the error saying my hard disk is faulty05:47
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: harddisk brand please? type?05:48
clear`is it a new or old drive? ssd?05:49
ubuntu-matean old drive that came with the computer acer aspire 772005:49
ubuntu-mateI cannot find the brand name or anything of that nature05:49
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: hitachi perhaps05:49
Xarkubuntu-mate: Can you have windows do a scan of the drive perhaps?  Perhaps it is bad?05:49
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: in your bios, you can also see the brand of hd05:50
ubuntu-mateI don't have anything installed on it. I'm currently using a live usb05:50
ubuntu-mateno, I cannot find the brand name05:50
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: can you reach to the ubuntu live desktop?05:50
ubuntu-mateyes, it is the one I'm using rightnow05:51
clear`ffs, im about to give up05:52
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: hdparm -i /dev/sdX05:52
lotuspsychjeclear`: whats going on?05:52
clear`ill let you finish with Ubuntu-mate first05:52
clear`well he is gone05:52
lotuspsychjeclear`: he left05:52
clear`fresh install, 16.04, getting reboot and select proper boot device05:52
clear`did boot repair05:52
clear`still getting it05:53
clear`http://paste.ubuntu.com/16139550/05:53
clear`thats the boot repair log05:53
ubuntuuserIn 16.04 my wifi doesn't work in network manager properly05:54
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ubuntuuserI connect via wifi and it give me an ethernet symbol in the panel.  Is there a known fix for broken wifi in 16.04?05:54
lotuspsychjeubuntuuser: try a: sudo service network-manager restart05:54
lotuspsychjeubuntuuser: your on a broadcom chipset?05:54
ubuntuuserlotuspsychje, is that a permanent solution?05:54
ubuntuuserlotuspsychje, i'm on intel wifi05:54
lotuspsychjeubuntuuser: well i also had it a few times already, think its a known bug05:55
lotuspsychjeclear`: explain the full story plz?05:55
lotuspsychjeubuntuuser: if you file a new bug, ill mark me as affected if you like05:56
Rhorsecould be old config. See if you can clear your config and start fresh.05:56
clear`well, wanted a larger ssd, going from 120gb to 240gb, i tried clonezilla, got the reboot and select proper device message, figured the clone didnt work right05:56
clear`so went through the installation of a fresh copy, getting the same error, tried boot repair as well05:56
lotuspsychjeRhorse: i got the same on fresh install05:56
lotuspsychjeclear`: fres install on the new sdd fails at wich point?05:57
clear`its not the install that fails, its the restart after the install is completed05:57
lotuspsychjeclear`: what happens exactly on restart?05:57
clear`black screen, reboot and select proper device05:58
inocuousgrub prompt?05:58
lotuspsychjeclear`: secureboot and fastboot disabled? IDE to AHCI changed in bios?05:58
clear`tried both of those disabled, not sure how to change ide to ahci, i didnt see that option in bios05:59
lotuspsychjeclear`: but you had an ssd before right?05:59
clear`yes05:59
clear`that ssd still works fine06:00
lotuspsychjeclear`: so must be set to ahci already to work06:00
clear`k06:00
lotuspsychjeclear`: but check anyway if you find in bios06:00
clear`doing another boot repair, will reboot in a second and look06:00
lotuspsychjeclear`: did you switch ssd positions?06:00
lotuspsychjeclear`: perhaps priority isnt good?06:01
clear`laptop, only one spot06:01
lotuspsychjekk06:01
lotuspsychjeclear`: wich new ssd brand?06:01
clear`intel, same brand as the other06:01
lotuspsychjeweird06:02
clear`tell me about it :(06:02
lotuspsychjeclear`: can you doublecheck uefi settings06:02
lotuspsychjeclear`: its about the only that would make sense here06:03
clear`yea, using boot repair to purge and reinstall grub06:03
clear`maybe grub is acting up for some unknown reason06:03
lotuspsychjeclear`: when not disabled, it can result in black screen with blink _ at corner06:03
lotuspsychje!uefi | clear`06:04
ubottuclear`: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI06:04
clear`http://paste.ubuntu.com/16139615/06:04
lotuspsychjeclear`: im almost on breakfast, if you cant get it right ping EriC^^ he's our uefi specialist06:05
clear`that didnt work ffs06:05
clear`ok in bios06:05
lotuspsychjeclear`: did you manually partition?06:05
clear`secure boot off06:06
clear`boot mode uefi boot06:06
clear`i did not lotuspsychje06:06
Rooster 06:06
lotuspsychjeclear`: try legacy06:06
clear`!legacy06:06
lotuspsychjeclear`: probably its blocking your ubuntu install06:07
clear`thats over my head06:07
lotuspsychjeclear`: you will need a reinstall if uefi settings changed06:07
lotuspsychjeclear`: normally you can choose uefi boot or legacy boot06:07
clear`oh, i didnt see legacy in there06:08
reisiosometimes we don't see things we aren't looking for06:08
clear`it was uefi and csm boot06:08
XxNemoxXHello06:08
clear`lol im looking right at it ;)06:08
lotuspsychjeclear`: reinstall quick :p06:08
XxNemoxXare you on a kano06:09
clear`another reinstall?!06:09
lotuspsychjeclear`: yes06:09
clear`glad it only takes 20 minutes06:09
lotuspsychjeclear`: 10min on my new 850 pro here06:10
XxNemoxXAre you on a Kano06:10
lotuspsychjeXxNemoxX: can we help you?06:10
clear`was just guestimating06:10
clear`but yea its pretty fast06:10
clear`compared to the 2 hours of win10 install and updating06:10
lotuspsychjelol06:10
XxNemoxXno i was just asking are you on a kano or rasberry p06:11
clear`bought new work laptops for employees, did a fresh install because of all the bloatware installed06:11
XxNemoxXpi06:11
lotuspsychje!arm | XxNemoxX06:11
ubottuXxNemoxX: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.06:11
lotuspsychjeclear`: great idea!06:11
clear`i no longer use my pi06:11
clear`i bought 2 mini-pc's06:11
reisioSBC named after a rapper? :P06:11
XxNemoxXlotuspsychje did u say arm to me06:12
reisiointeresting way to profit off rpis... bundle them with really expensive shiny peripherals06:12
lotuspsychjeXxNemoxX: yes06:12
XxNemoxXok06:13
reisioand then charge more :p06:13
XxNemoxXhello06:14
clear`lotuspsychje: installation type, if i select erase disk and install xubuntu, that will erase everything and do the partitions for me right06:14
clear`it should handle everything, or should i do "something else"06:14
XxNemoxXare u on a raspberry pi or laptop or pc06:15
XxNemoxXor a kano06:15
reisiokano is a raspberry pi, no?06:15
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XxNemoxXit is but its mainly for kids06:15
reisiokids whose parents haven't taught them about frugality06:16
reisioor sensibility06:16
reisioyou can get a full blown x86 laptop for the same price06:16
reisiothat comes with a screen...06:16
reisioand the ability to be more than useless06:17
XxNemoxXNO Kids who want to have fun and are good at codeing06:17
reisio...06:17
reisiothink you're confusing wasting money and having fun06:17
XxNemoxXIts not wasting money Kano was built to educate06:18
reisiocan't believe they sunk $1.5 million dollars on a way to assist children in overpaying for inferior computers06:18
reisioI mean I can believe it, but I don't want to06:18
cfhowlettXxNemoxX, let's move on.  the topic in this channel is ubuntu support.  other discussions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic06:19
XxNemoxXwait are you from usa06:19
XxNemoxXOk06:19
XxNemoxXbye06:19
reisioadios06:19
cfhowlettXxNemoxX, irrelevant.  stay on topic06:20
XxNemoxXOk06:20
Zennhi guys06:42
Zennlotuspsychje, you there?06:42
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Guest84102It seems like ubuntu dont recongised where I am from timezone06:43
Guest84102o.o06:43
lotuspsychjeGuest84102: did you enable internet?06:43
Guest84102yeah I did06:43
Guest84102http://i.imgur.com/bn8vkZG.png06:43
clear`just check manual06:44
clear`and put in new york06:44
Guest84102Im from Singapore o.o and not from new York06:44
clear`lotuspsychje: i grabbed an older hard drive, going to see if the install works on that06:44
clear`oh, then just put in singapore06:44
clear`more than likely your ip is why it doesnt know, could be detected as proxy or something06:45
reisiono, new york!06:45
reisiono merlions here!06:45
Guest84102does not work.06:45
Guest84102my ip?06:45
reisioGuest84102: /nick merlion06:45
Guest84102lol06:46
Guest84102well some help would be nice.06:46
clear`Guest84102: you cant select singapore?06:46
squintyB06:46
clear`or hit manual and put it in?06:46
reisionot having to type SHIFT+G, u, e, s, t, 8, 4, TAB would be nice06:46
Guest84102there isnt Singapore at all06:46
clear`reisio: you shouldnt have to, tab should pick the last Guest84102 that has spoken in the channel06:47
clear`mine does atleast06:47
clear`konversation ftw06:47
squintyGuest84102,  you can use your mouse to click on the appropriate area on the displayed atlas06:47
reisio'guest8' works, it's still annoying06:47
lotuspsychjeclear`: to avoid the reinstalling gonna test another hd on legacy?06:48
Guest84102done thanks use the click appropriate method06:48
clear`lotuspsychje: already tried another reinstall06:48
clear`same thing06:48
lotuspsychjeweird06:49
clear`i have that hard drive hooked up into a usb adapter, it works just fine06:50
lotuspsychjeanyway breakfast here06:50
lotuspsychjebbl06:50
clear`and i see the OS06:50
clear`have a good one, thanks06:50
wonka_hii^06:52
clear`hi06:53
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wonka_where you from06:54
wonka_chow la06:54
cfhowlettwonka_, ubuntu support question?06:57
auronandacecfhowlett: he left06:57
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Zenn3 HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-21-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.29GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.7GiB, 58.6% free ** Disk: Total: 454.6GiB, 93.9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet **07:00
Zenn3Uptime: 32m 11s **07:00
reisioneeds more asterisks07:00
Zenn3lol07:00
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ubuntu_wtfI tried to install Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 using encryption and btrfs and it failed misserably, has anyone figured out how to do this?07:04
inocuoushttps://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable07:04
ubuntu_wtfI tried to make /boot ext4, a root (32GB) of btrfs, and a home (1.8TB) btrfs07:04
ubuntu_wtfDoes anyone have a recipe for btrfs+luks in an EFI/GPT environment to install 16.04 GNOME?07:05
nolsenFor some reason libstdc++.so.6 doesn't exist in /usr/lib, but the libstdc++.so.6 package is installed.07:07
akiknolsen: it's in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu07:09
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reisioubuntu_wtf: needs more complication07:10
akiknolsen: you can use dpkg -L libstdc++607:10
TheOneLawX07:11
Olotilahow do I run a program in terminal and continue working in terminal?07:12
AciD`use &07:13
AciD`at the end07:13
Olotilalike command &07:13
Olotila?07:13
Olotiladoesnt work, my terminal gets flooded with error and I do not get cursor back07:13
akikOlotila: yes but it's usually more useful to open a new tab since the output from command is shown in the same terminal07:14
Olotilaoh wait, It did work :)07:14
Olotilanew tab?07:14
Olotilahow do I do that?07:14
akikOlotila: oh you're not running xorg?07:15
akikOlotila: then there's the screen terminal multiplexer which enables you to have terminal sessions on top of each other07:16
OlotilaI just use different windows07:17
Olotilahow do I get that?07:17
akikOlotila: sudo apt install screen07:17
Olotilaah ok07:18
lundmarOlotila: sudo apt-get install tmux07:23
lundmarmuch better ^^07:23
akiknot this tired subject again07:24
lundmaralways that subject :P07:24
akikyou can do everything with screen that you do with tmux07:24
TinoDidriksenAfter an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 (I needed the newer packages), I'm getting tons of "can't fork" and "fork: Resource temporarily unavailable" from cron and postfix, even immediately after a reboot. How do I debug that?07:24
linuxhello07:43
linuxsafsfsfsdfsf07:43
linuxsdfsa07:43
linuxfsdfadf07:43
linuxsdf07:44
IeePcHi there, i got some trouble with updated 16.04 (from 14.04) it stops booting with console login. After login, it tells me the file system is read only? As if i start up with the second choose in gruub-menue, "(upstart)" stand there, i get a normal desktop. Wnats wrong?07:47
inocuousI did a forced upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04. When I did, it booted to a grub prompt. Since I was using a USB memory stick I was able to just pull out the memory stick and reboot, and then everything worked normally.07:52
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mirrithey guys08:01
TinoDidriksenWell, I'm betting my fork issue had to do with TasksMax. Raised it from 512 to a million. Time will tell.08:01
mirrithey guys i have just installed lubuntu 16 and my audio isnt working i cant hear anything08:02
alfatauhello all. is it possible to delete a btrfs snapshot without specifying the path but specifying the ID?08:02
crestcoreHi can any help with socat port forwarding issues08:10
\9!ask08:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:12
crestcoreroot@nuc:~# socat /dev/ttyUSB0,raw,b19200 stdout AT^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAA^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAT^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAA^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAT^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAA^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAT ERROR:0C08:23
crestcoreThis is the error we get when using socat.08:24
decciI installed check_openmanage plugin with nagios. Is it possible to see the plugin output under UI08:24
OlotilaI put a shortcut Ctrl + Alt + M to command gnome-open ~/Documents/Muista/muista.odt but it does not work08:30
Olotilashould I use " " around command or bash in front or sh in front or something?08:31
OlotilaI tried something, but no effect08:31
bqwhat is the command for release upgrade?08:32
inocuoussudu update-manager08:33
inocuoussudo* sorry08:33
bumbleheadi'm trying to understand ubuntu snap by running one of the example snaps08:34
inocuousyou can force a devel upgrade but that appears to not to be recommended08:34
bumbleheadI downloaded the webchat files08:35
bumbleheadhttps://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/tree/master/examples/webchat08:35
bumbleheadand I was able to build a *.snap package but am unable to run the package08:35
bumbleheadI installed the *.snap package with this command $ sudo snap install webchat_0.0.1_amd64.snap08:36
bumbleheadhow can I run this webchat snap locally to see the result?08:36
bumbleheadI see webchat when I run `$ snap list`08:37
bumbleheadbut webchat does not appear in the unity search08:38
hackeronhi there, I'm trying to upgarde from 15.10 to 16.04, I tried running do-release-upgrade with and without -d (after apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade) and I'm still getting "No new release found" - any ideas?08:38
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bumbleheadcalling `$ webchat` results in command not found08:38
inocuous ./webchat ?08:39
bumbleheadno such file or directory found08:39
inocuousI had a similar problem with another app, but at the moment, I'm not remembering how I overcame it.08:41
bumbleheadsnapcraft documentation should include details for testing running packages locally08:42
bumbleheadbuilding a snap is not so useful if the result can't be verified or tested in some way08:42
vbotkahackeron, you might want to review the content of the files cat /etc/lsb-release and /etc/apt/sources.list respectively.08:42
Thomas131Hello! Can someone help me getting knockd run with just one knock-port? When I use at least two ports it works fine, but with one ...08:44
hackeronvbotka: /etc/lsb-release has DISTRIB_RELEASE=15.10 etc and sources.list is using standard official ubuntu repos with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in each line08:44
freezerhi08:46
freezercan someone tell me why iscsid is running @ Ubuntu 16.04?08:46
freezeri only have local drives08:46
bumbleheadhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/745897/snappy-webchat-example-not-working08:47
bumbleheadlooks like snapcraft needs to snapbake in the oven a bit longer08:48
vbotkahackeron, have you tried "sudo update-manager -d" ?08:50
hackeronvbotka: yes08:50
bekksvbotka: you dont want to upgrade to development releases, usually.08:51
hackeronvbotka: managed to get it to start, if I edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and I change Prompt=lts to Prompt=normal, then it upgrades. Thought this was a lts release though08:51
hackeronvbotka: I guess maybe if you are not curently on lts, you need to set that to normal? - maybe it's a bug08:52
AscavasaionI am running 14.04.4  all the howtos online say that grub config file is in /etc/default/grub.  I do not have that folder.  Can someone please tell me where else it can be found?08:52
Ben64hackeron: did you not read the file you edited08:52
bekksAscavasaion: Then you arent using grub2, but grub1.08:52
tothbbalintHello to everybody! I am new to Ubuntu, I have just installed 15.10 on my machine. I would like to ask, if I run sudo apt-get update, will it update my Ubuntu to 16.04? Because I would not like that to happen08:54
bekkstothbbalint: No, it will not.08:54
bekkstothbbalint: You need to use do-release-upgrade for upgrading.08:55
tothbbalintbekks, thank you very much!08:55
Ben64tothbbalint: 15.10 has ~3 months left of support though, why not install 16.04?08:55
hackeronBen64: no, lol - but ah, that makes sense!08:56
tothbbalintI am using some specific apache/mysql/caching setup, the sys admin said our setup is not yet fully working on 16.0408:56
hackeronBen64: thank you :)08:56
bekkstothbbalint: So he has 3 months left for fixing it :)08:57
vbotkabekks, yes, you are right08:57
tothbbalintbekks, yes, I know, but that is his problem, not mine :)09:00
tothbbalintI would like to ask something else, maybe it is a silly question, but I am new to Linux09:00
tothbbalintCan you please explain how can I use effectively the multiple workspaces?09:00
bekkstothbbalint: you can use them as having multiple screens, with different programs running on each workspace.09:01
Olotilahow do I put shortcut key to command "gnome-open /path/to/file" ?09:03
inocuousIt's hard to beat having two screens but workspace is the next best thing09:03
tothbbalintbut for example, if I am doing some programming, and I would like to switch back and forth between 2 projects, can I run the same program independently on 2 different workspaces? like Firefox, my IDE, text editors, and so on09:03
Ascavasaionbekks: Grub 1?  how do I change to grub 2?09:04
bekksAscavasaion: By installing it, most likely.09:04
bekks!grub2 | Ascavasaion09:04
ubottuAscavasaion: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub209:04
computerhey ubuntu people, i need stupid flash in my firfox to view content can i install it through sudo apt-get?09:04
bekks!flash | computer09:05
ubottucomputer: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash09:05
computerbekks: i cannot through sudo apt-get?09:05
bekkscomputer: no, you cannot read that article through apt-get. You need a browser for reading it.09:05
rud0lf:]09:06
computerbekks: thanks, why do people still use flash? wasn't it replaced with HTML5?09:06
bekkscomputer: Ask the people building websites using flash.09:07
computerbekks: haha09:07
Aussie_mattanyone using the asus X205TA or intel atom chips????09:08
MonkeyDust20 odd years now, waiting for the flash ... (silence)09:08
AVPпривет всем09:08
MonkeyDust!ru09:08
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:08
computerbekks: what is up with the software centre in ubuntu 16.04? many things are missing09:09
AVPghbdtn09:10
AVPпривет09:10
vbotkaAussie_matt, I do. product: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525   @ 1.80GHz09:11
Aussie_mattvbotka: hi! is that one of the 64bit cpus with 32bit uefi?09:11
vbotkaAussie_matt, yes it's 64bit, but I dont't know bout uefi09:14
computerbekks: the page you sent me says to install flashplugin-installer from the ubuntu software centre, but it is not listed09:14
Aussie_mattvbotka: ok. you're running ubuntu?09:14
vbotkaAussie_matt, yes. 14.04 on this particular device09:15
varaindemianafter "$ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS" I got gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>"09:15
Aussie_mattwas it a nightmare to install, or you could use the normal canonical ubuntu image09:15
vbotkaAussie_matt, IIRC it was straightforward.09:16
vbotkaAussie_matt, from the DVD image09:16
Aussie_mattok, that means it's not 32bit efi lol...09:16
vbotkaAussie_matt, very probably isn't, for the record http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support09:21
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computerpeople i cannot find flashplugin-installer in the ubuntu 16.04 software centre to install flash, what is the problem with the software centre? there are many programs missing09:23
Aussie_mattvbotka: theres a massive thread on the x205ta, just be nice to talk with someone whos got one09:23
EriC^^computer: is the multiverse repo enabled?09:24
computerEriC^^: i am not sure what is that? how can i enable it?09:24
EriC^^computer: open the dash and type software09:24
computerEriC^^: ok09:25
EriC^^click on software & updates and enable it09:25
swenzelsince I upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04 on my laptop the power saving mode doesn't work anymore. First time after boot everything is fine when I close it. When I wake it up and close it again I can hear the Drive being shut down but fan and led stay on. Opening again shows a black screen, guess it froze during initialization of power save mode.09:26
computerEriC^^: seems enabled09:26
computerEriC^^: checks updates daily09:26
computerEriC^^: multiverse enabled09:27
computerEriC^^: it is already enabled09:27
varaindemianafter "$ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS" I got gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>"09:27
Sl4ck.09:27
EriC^^computer: ok, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras09:27
kisbinstall chrome and pepperflash09:29
bekksChrome comes with pepperflash, already.09:30
computerEriC^^: done09:30
varaindemiananyone?09:30
computerEriC^^: i get a package configuration09:30
guest-1ahh6bI am an idiot. Why doesn't my Hp printer just scan when i push the scan button? Why do I need apple or microsoft only software to scan? Why isn't it just push and scan, like the pdf button on libre office?09:31
phaze75Good morning, I have a dns resolving issue concerning hosts of my local intarnet doamin09:31
EriC^^computer: ok, configure it09:31
phaze75dns-search is set to "example.local"09:31
computerEriC^^: it broke, the ok button has diassapeared09:32
kisbfor use in firefox09:32
computerEriC^^: its back again now but i cannot click it09:33
phaze75dns-nameserver is set to the dns ip09:33
EriC^^computer: try pressing tab09:33
phaze75hosts contains the hostname and the intranet fqdn09:33
computerEriC^^: ok09:33
bekksphaze75: And whats the issue?09:33
phaze75bekks: i cannot resolve other hosts within the intranet based on their intranet fqdn. e.g. if i try to ping them i get a "ping: unknown host oracle.suit.local"09:36
miklccthave you set up dns server properly?09:36
bekksphaze75: So does the nameserver know about that host? Does it have a record for it?09:36
phaze75bekks, miklcct: yes, all the host entries are made09:37
phaze75actually it is a windows server dns09:37
miklccttry typing `host oracle.suit.local` in the terminal09:38
phaze75and i use a dns forwareder via pfsense09:38
bekksphaze75: On that DNS server, does resolving a fqdn work?09:38
Kartagishello09:38
Sl4ckDoes anyone know which one is the file I can monitor with tail command to see if I am tracked in  the network?09:38
Kartagisubuntu 14.0409:38
bekksSl4ck: there is no such facility.09:38
Kartagis no videos09:38
phaze75miklcct: that works09:38
bekksSl4ck: You cannot detect wether you are tracked.09:38
Kartagishelp?09:38
mirritaudio works within a game and it wont work on fifrefox :/09:39
miklcctphaze75: how about `dig oracle.suit.local` ?09:39
Sl4ckbekks: what Linux distro you use?09:40
phaze75miklcct: works09:40
bekksSl4ck: How does that matter?09:40
Sl4ckbekks: just asking09:40
miklcctphaze75: Do you have an DNS resolver cache? If so clear it09:41
bekksSl4ck: Guess which one, being in an Ubuntu channel.09:41
Kartagisubuntu 14.04, chrome, no video youtube or otherwise. help?09:41
Kartagisbekks: uhm, Fedora?09:41
alkisgKartagis: enable the "partner" repository and install "adobe-flashplugin"09:41
Kartagishth09:41
computerEriC^^: ok it finished installing, what now?09:42
bekksalkisg: Pepperflash is already shipped with Chrome.09:42
phaze75miklcct: i already cleared the cache of the windows dns server. do I have caches also in the ubuntu client and the pfsense dns forwarder?09:42
miklcctcomputer: open chrome09:42
miklcctphaze75: yes, clear all caches in your network09:42
alkisgbekks: ah sorry I don't use chrome and I'm always reading that as "chromium", Kartagis sorry ignore my remark09:42
computeri dont have chrome just fire fox, will it work with fire fox?09:42
bekkscomputer: if you installed the pepperflash plugin, it will.09:43
miklcctcomputer: enable partner repository and install adobe-flashplugin09:43
miklcctthe pepper flash does not work with firefox09:43
bekksIt does.09:43
kisbit does09:43
* alkisg doesn't think so09:43
alkisgUnless you use the wrapper09:43
computerEriC^^: ok it works09:44
bekksalkisg: Which makes it work in firefox. QED.09:44
Sl4ckbekks: Than if you use ubuntu you need to know as where is a shell there is a way. you should get dipper onto the linux mistery and you gonna find out how many incredible things you can do with Linux command line. Even other doesn't belive there is no facility to monitor via shell to see if you are tracked... Belive me always there is a way on linux, and I recomend you when you to get to the next level and use Slackware. Slackware will help you to have a better 09:44
alkisgbekks: it's an experimental plugin and only works in limited scenarios09:44
alkisgIt's not a recommented way to use flash09:44
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bekksSl4ck: There is no way to see it. Seems like you arent using Linux that long, dont you?09:44
computerEriC^^: so what is the issue with the software centre? there are many applications that are missing09:44
alkisgpepper is for chrom*, npapi for firefox09:44
Kartagisby the way, videos work in firefox (not 1:1 though)09:44
kisblol its recommended NOT to use flash anyways09:45
bekksalkisg: Adobe Flash is not developed anymore. So Pepperflash is your only way to go.09:45
alkisgfirefox doesn't support pepper09:45
alkisgA third party developer has an experimental wrapper for firefox to use pepper, not many people use that one09:46
kisbhttp://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/10/ipepper-flash-for-firefox-ubuntu-15-10/09:46
Kartagisbekks: should I install pepper too? chrome://plugins report Adobe Flash Player09:46
Kartagisreports*09:46
bekksKartagis: I'd not use Adbobe Flash anymore.09:46
computerbekks: i hate flash, it is so stupid, i people who use it are more stupid09:47
EriC^^computer: no idea09:47
miklcctbut it is a necessity to play flash games09:47
bekkscomputer: Take your rants elsewhere. Offline preferably.09:47
phaze75miklcct: done in ubuntu and pfsense. no effect.09:48
phaze75miklcct: btw: windows clients are doing fine09:48
kisband watch illegal videos09:48
miklcctphaze75: that means you can 'host', 'dig' but not 'ping' it?09:48
miklcctphase75: how about traceroute?09:48
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bekksphaze75: If you cannot "ping" it, enable ICMP responses.09:49
bekksphaze75: Thats not a DNS issue then.09:49
phaze75miklcct: tracerout does not work09:50
bekksphaze75: because it is named traceroute09:51
miklcctcan you paste the output of traceroute?09:51
phaze75bekks: i can ping oracel.suit.local from my xen host09:51
bekksphaze75: So DNS is working.09:51
alkisg.local might be provided by avahi09:51
phaze75bekks: yes09:52
bekksphaze75: No fix your ICMP settings :)09:52
phaze75bekks: oracle cannot be resolved, not by ping and not by e.g. w3m. see w3m: "w3m: Can't load oracle.suit.local.09:57
phaze75", ping: "ping: unknown host oracle.suit.local"09:57
bekksphaze75: unknown host means your DNS is NOT working.09:58
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bekksphaze75: Did you try from a host next to your DNS server, without using your DNS forwarder?09:58
phaze75bekks: the dns server (windows) and the dns forwarder (pfsense) are working with my xen und windows hosts. but not with ubuntu. so it is a dns problem with ubuntu.09:59
bekksphaze75: Do you have the same problem when using Ubuntu next to your DNS server, without your forwarder?10:00
deccinrpe dead but subsys locked10:03
phaze75bekks: bypassing the dns forwarder does not solve the problem for ubuntu10:03
alkisgphaze75: .local is a special name for ubuntu, it's used by avahi for local multicast dns, did you try other addresses than .local?10:05
phaze75bekks: nsswitch.conf is standard: "hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns"10:05
bekksphaze75: so you are using avahi, which catched .local already.10:06
phaze75alkisg, bekks: resolving external hosts works, also static entries of the dns forwarder10:08
bekksphaze75: And you are still using Avahi, which catches .local10:08
phaze75bekks: obviously10:08
phaze75bekks: what can i do?10:09
bekksphaze75: "< alkisg> phaze75: .local is a special name for ubuntu, it's used by avahi for local multicast dns, did you try other addresses than .local?".10:09
bekksphaze75: Basically, use another TLD, rather than .local10:09
phaze75bekks: impossible, this the windows domain since 10 years. I never had issues with redhat, fedora, centos...10:12
bekksphaze75: Because redhat, fedora, centos, ... dont use avahi.10:13
bekksphaze75: All you could do is disabling avahi, and running into other issues, likely.10:13
alkisgThere's a note for .local domains in the avahi documentation10:13
alkisgman avahi or somewhere10:13
alkisgIt mentions what to do if you're running a .local domain locally, so as not to conflict with avahi10:14
phaze75alkisg: thanks, I see10:16
phaze75bekks, alkisg: thanks for pointing me to avahi. it took me hours of troubleshooting already.10:18
troulouliou_div2hi is there an official repo for openjdk 7 on 16.04 ; it seems it is missing in the official 16.0410:33
alkisgphaze75: the documentation about .local is at http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal10:37
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bekks!info openjdk-7 xenial10:44
ubottuPackage openjdk-7 does not exist in xenial10:44
bekkstroulouliou_div2: openjdk-7 does not exist anymore, in xenial, there is only -8 and -910:45
XLRAndroidHello there guys. I am running Ubuntu 16.04 using the open source AMD drivers that come with pre-installed. I have Team installed and whenever I run DoTa, it says running but I do not see any windows displaying the game, nor do I see a new icon on my left hand dock/taskbar. ANy help would be extrememly appreciated and would help me out a lot.10:45
michiel_hi Folks10:50
michiel_I can't install Chrome on 16.04.10:50
michiel_Install button does nothing...10:50
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EriC^^michael_mbp: go to google.com and download the latest chrome10:51
bekksmichiel: So got to https://www.google.com/intl/en-US/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html and download/install10:51
Guest29742It doesn't work...10:51
Guest29742the install button doesn't work.10:52
EriC^^Guest29742: download it and double click it10:52
Guest29742it's a serious bug in 16.04 if i can't install chrome10:52
bekksThere is not bug.10:52
bekksDownload and doubleclick.10:52
EriC^^Guest29742: try to open a terminal and type sudo dpkg -i ~/google-chrome...deb or ~/Downloads/google-chrome-...deb10:52
Guest29742npacking google-chrome-stable (50.0.2661.94-1) ...10:54
Guest29742dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of google-chrome-stable:10:54
Guest29742 google-chrome-stable depends on libappindicator1; however:10:54
Guest29742  Package libappindicator1 is not installed.10:54
Guest29742dpkg: error processing package google-chrome-stable (--install):10:54
Guest29742 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured10:54
EriC^^!paste | Guest2974210:54
ubottuGuest29742: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:54
EriC^^Guest29742: try sudo apt-get install libappindicator110:54
EriC^^!info libappindicator110:54
ubottulibappindicator1 (source: libappindicator): Application Indicators. In component main, is optional. Version 12.10.1+15.04.20141110-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 19 kB, installed size 102 kB10:54
ducasseGuest29742: use gdebi to install, it will fulfill dependencies10:54
Guest29742that doesn't work for me either10:55
EriC^^Guest29742: sudo apt-get install libappindicator1 ?10:55
alkisgGuest29742: do you have 32bit or 64bit ubuntu installation?10:55
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Guest29742well i fixed it, stupid bgs10:56
Guest29742it should just work out of the box , by clicking the "install" button...10:57
Guest29742sudo apt-get -f install10:57
hem0..10:58
Guest29742I'm an experienced user, image a noob trying linux..11:00
Guest29742http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-deb-software-install-error11:01
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Guest29742how this can slip into an LTS release is beyond imagining....11:06
alkisgGuest29742: google chrome is *not* part of ubuntu11:07
alkisgIt's a product of google...11:07
Guest29742But installing third party apps is part of Ubuntu11:07
alkisgAnd?11:07
Guest29742And that feature is broken.11:07
alkisgRight, so report it to google11:07
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Guest29742*NO* third party apps can be installed through the software installer. That is not Google's fault.11:08
Guest29742Rather, a bug in Ubuntu.11:08
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Guest29742One that has been reported in the media at least 2 days ago, and still no fix available.11:08
kisbuse gdebi11:09
kisbreally most long time ubuntu users aren't using the software center11:09
alkisgThe media isn't where bugs are filed... there are bug trackers for this11:09
jeffreyhello room11:10
Guest29742If it reaches the media, you can be sure Canonical does something wrong in their testing..11:10
jeffreyis there a way to change the background color of an application in linux11:10
keenorDear ubuntu people, I need some real help. I have an Issue where my web browser firefox/chrome/chromium is very slow... it lags loading a page and resolving and searching, YET: when I close browser and reload it is fine! 15.10 x6411:10
Guest29742keenor, do you have enough memory?11:11
alkisgGuest29742: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573408 ==> fix released11:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1573408 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "GNOME Software does not install third-party .deb packages" [High,Fix released]11:11
kisbjeffrey, you can customize in preferences11:12
keenorGuest29742: I have 32GB11:12
jeffreykisb, do I have to running debian linux straight11:13
jeffrey I am using linux mint11:13
keenorI have read that sometimes its an error with ubuntu search addon, which I turned off11:13
keenorI also read that it could be to do with dnsmasq11:13
jeffreyif I have to get debian, I will11:14
Guest29742I recommend to install something stable like RHEL.11:15
ldshHi, I've made the upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, and now have the new software manager. I'm a bit surprised to see on it an update (1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1) that I don't see in the update manager. How comes? Should I use the new software manager to do the updates instead? Can I safely uninstall the previous software manager?11:15
kisbjeffrey, am on ubuntu mate so am not sure what its called in mint but its a gtk thing. just right click on desktop where theres backgrounds and other settings11:16
ldshForget to precise, I'm using ubuntu gnome (official variant)11:16
kisbchange is for all apps11:16
jeffreythere is settings, kisb11:17
lionelmessi5102Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 but when I try to boot it stuck on a black screen with: /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks11:17
jeffreyand I have gone there and tried everything11:17
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lionelmessi5102Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 but when I try to boot it stuck on a black screen with: /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks11:20
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xcellhi11:22
xcellexit11:23
kisbits /part11:24
lionelmessi5102Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 but when I try to boot it stuck on a black screen with: /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks11:24
ldshAnd "apt upgrade" show me 10 package to upgrade.11:29
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GarethpHey all, I'm having a weird problem with my mouse over two installs (Ubuntu 15.10 and Ubuntu 16.04) and two different mice that work on different computers and the same computer with a different OS (Windows 10 as Dual Boot). The closest I can describe is... Unity doesn't release the mouse focus?11:31
GarethpOn boot, if I open chrome or any other application, my mouse doesn't want to interact with it. Mouse clicks don't work, scroll doesn't work, hovering over links doesn't change the icon11:31
GarethpBut I can interact with the main OS. I can click on the power button, I can click on the menu or open other applications11:32
GarethpWhen I click on the power button, then click in to Chrome it'll work11:32
Guest71434te11:32
de-factoare you using nvidia drivers?11:32
GarethpI am11:32
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de-factowhich ones?11:32
Garethp361 it looks like11:33
GarethpShould I swap to xserver?11:33
de-factowhat you mean, arent you using XServer?11:33
GarethpIn aditional drivers, it says I can choose between Nvidia 361 drivers (which is selected), OR X Server Drivers11:34
Garethpxserver-xorg-video-nouveau11:34
de-factoi heard of some mouse problems with nvidia-304 solution was to use nvidia-340 on that device11:34
Dev__Hi, is there some gui utility to disable or edit mouse acceleration in Ubuntu 16.04? (The setting doesnt exists)11:34
GarethpI'll give 340 a shot11:35
de-factoGarethp the nouveau are the open source drivers, if they work fine for you, congratz, if you need gaming grade performance you probably want the proprietary ones11:35
de-factoit always depends on your gfx chip though11:35
pedrocrfor some reason 14.04 isn't offering me a 16.04 upgrade11:36
GarethpI'm not sure if they work for me, they're just there. I'm not here for gaming grade, just for faster C++ and PHP performance while devving at home11:36
pedrocrdoing a slow migration?11:36
de-facto!ltsupgrade | pedrocr11:36
ubottupedrocr: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.11:36
pedrocrubottu: is it possible to force it now?11:36
ubottupedrocr: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:36
GarethpI'll install nvidia-340, then play around with which is best and report back11:37
GarethpThanks11:37
de-factogood luck11:37
GarethpI hadn't considered that prop graphics drivers would cause mouse issues11:37
de-factoGarethp you might want to play with "xev" to watch mouse events11:38
GarethpWill give it a shot after reboot11:39
ubuntu146hello İ computer error boot (/dev/sda1: clean, 121563/920272 files, 701079/3680256 blocks)11:43
de-factoubuntu146 yeah but we need more info for helping you11:45
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durgeoblehi11:50
Dev_Hi, is there any app with gui to disable or edit mouse acceleration in Ubuntu 16.04?11:51
GarethpWell, that didn't work. Tried rebooting with open source drivers, remembered why I'm using Nvidia ones. Black screen11:54
GarethpTried a nomodeset boot, which got me to login screen then went black screen after login11:54
vkrHi All11:55
durgeoblehi, i want to put lubuntu in a bootable USB key and at the same time virtualice in any other pc the system so i can access anywhere, tried lili usb creator, works on windows, but dont boot and dont know how to virtualice in other linux or mac11:57
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blissi!ops12:01
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang12:01
kevin123Dev_ you can disable it in xorg.conf12:01
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Dev_kevin123 thanks! how?12:14
devocan someone help me installing packages on ubuntu 16.04?12:14
kevin123<Dev_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#Disabling_mouse_acceleration12:15
Dev_devo sudo apt-get install package_name12:15
devoim getting too many errors i know the command DEV12:15
devoim getting version errors12:15
devotrying to downgrade12:15
devothen I get new error12:15
Dev_kevin123 thank you!12:15
kevin123np12:15
Dev_devo what error do you get?12:16
devodependency errors,  let me tell you one12:16
devoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:12:16
devoI try to install that the dependent package gives another dependency error12:17
kevin123did you add a external repository?12:17
devoI did12:17
kevin123it might have too old or too new packages which is causing the issue12:18
devowhat should I do now :)12:19
devoI removed some of the packages and now I don't know which are missing12:19
devoI need these packages " apt-get install lzop bison gperf build-essential zlib1g-dev zlib1g-dev:i386 g++-multilib libxml2-utils  bzip2 libbz2-dev libbz2-1.0 libghc-bzlib-dev libsepol1-dev dpkg-dev make libncurses5-dev ccache"12:20
kevin123I'm not sure, sorry, I had similar issues when adding the mariadb repository, was too much time lost so I wiped the VM12:20
devodamn thats why I dont like linux12:20
kevin123it's more of an issue with the package manager in ubuntu than linux12:21
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kappauniFala ae12:29
kappauniTudo bem ?12:29
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jp_Computer crashed using Ubuntu 16.04.  Computer issue not Operating system.  Now on Lubuntu but my memory stick has lost+found about 4k, with 38 megs info not accesible12:38
jophishhow can I check how a hostname is being looked up?12:39
Whirjophish: tracerout12:39
Whir*traceroute12:39
sidudcan we install ubuntu through a USB with ISO file12:40
sidudhey guys can we install ubuntu through a USB with ISO file??????12:41
jophishWhir: that was the first thing I tried however traceroute6 is unable to resolve the hostname12:41
pintmanWhen considering DNS, you can use 'dig +trace google.com'12:41
jophishping *can* however12:41
rdarkAny idea why apt-cache policy $package is not showing a version that is actually in the repository?12:41
kappauniHI12:43
kappaunimy mouse has been stoped.12:43
rdark(I'm trying to downgrade a package that someone mistakenly upgraded via apt-get dist-upgrade, and whoever installed that specific version of the package didn't pin it..)12:43
kappauniPlease help me12:43
kappauniMy mouse is microsoft 200012:43
devoclear12:45
jp_somebody please tell me where to go to get help on issue I listed12:49
QuellelSziasztok, egy drupal modul teszteléshez egy hétre ki tudna adni drupal hosztingot?12:51
jp_thanks12:54
lionelmessi5102Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04, but after I boot it stuck on black screen with /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks12:56
ksftcan someone help me get my custom keyboard configuration to work?13:04
albyqq13:08
MonkeyDustksft  define 'custom keyboard'13:10
ksftMonkeyDust: custom keyboard configuration13:10
ksftlayout13:10
ksftI put a file in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, and I edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml13:11
ksftI can add it to the list in the system settings thing, but when I select it, it doesn't actually change keyboard layouts13:11
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MonkeyDustksft  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions?action=show&redirect=Howto%3A+Custom+keyboard+layout+definitions13:13
marius_good day MATE!13:13
ksftMonkeyDust: I've seen that13:13
marius_ubuntu mate is my current distro13:13
ksftI created the layout a different way, but that isn't relevant13:14
marius_comment to the start screen downloading thingy... should get a full list that patiently downloads everything13:14
MonkeyDustksft  then you should start from the beginning, what have you tried so far and what goes wrong13:14
firmanhay, anybody know how to rename and re-configure encfs folder? i missing some config at first time13:14
ksftMonkeyDust: I have the file in xkb/symbols/13:14
ksftit just doesn't work when I try to select it13:14
grobda24Hi, I thought I'd completely removed Pulseaudio but something still seems to be in there and I've had problems with defaulkt audio devices. For example "mpg123" still selects Pulse as the default (even though "mpv" does not but it might check then skip it). Also things like "pacmd list-cards" still work which is a PA command. How do I completely remove and block PA. I do not want it !13:15
jophishI can send mail to a user on localhost, but I'm unable to send mail to a VM which I share a network with13:17
jophishwhat must I do to enable this?13:17
ksftMonkeyDust: can you help?13:18
MonkeyDustgrobda24  use synaptic to look for everything you want to remove, some packages point to each other13:18
MonkeyDustksft  i'm not familiar with it, address the channel13:18
ksftokay, can anyone else help me?13:18
MonkeyDustksft  that's not the correct way ... repeat your question every 15 minutes, until someone enters who can help13:19
ksftokay13:19
ksftit's been about fifteen minutes since last time I asked it13:20
ksftcan someone help me get my custom keyboard configuration to work?13:20
marius_yeeeeeez... im having the same problem.. lets see13:21
ksftmarius_: as me?13:22
marius_aye13:22
marius_what language_13:22
marius_?13:22
ksftLojban13:22
marius_hold on im waiting for spotify to install so i can root13:22
marius_ok13:24
marius_æøå13:24
marius_there13:24
marius_just add your keyboard all over13:24
ksftall over?13:24
ksftwhat?13:24
marius_system -> hardware -> keyboard13:25
marius_you see your language there13:25
marius_right?13:25
ksft"hardware"?13:25
ksftI'm using Unity, btw13:25
marius_yeah.. i use norwegian13:25
marius_ahh.. i have mate13:25
ksftoh, it's in the "Hardware" section13:25
ksftit should work either way13:25
ksftI see the keyboard in the list there13:26
ksftI added it to the list of selected keyboards13:26
marius_right... anyway you should see your keyboard setting there.. add your correct keyboard (language) over again, and delete the old one.. then test it13:26
ksftokay...13:26
marius_should work now13:26
ksftI can't do that13:26
ksftit doesn't show up in the list if I've already added that13:26
ksfts/that/it13:26
marius_hmmm13:27
marius_thing here i noticed is its a bug13:28
marius_when you install keyboard at setup, it still will go english on me13:28
marius_so i have to re-do it after install13:28
marius_but then it works13:28
ksftafter installing whaT?13:28
marius_after installing linux13:28
ksftwhat?*13:28
ksfthuh?13:29
marius_you talk about keyboard as in æøå right.. not midi keyboard you play music on?13:29
ksftyeah'13:29
ksftyeah*13:29
ksftit's not a new physical keyboard13:29
marius_right.. so you have english keyboard layout?13:29
ksftit's a keyboard layout13:29
ksftyeah13:29
ksftthat's the default13:29
marius_exactly13:29
ksftso what do I do?13:29
marius_so the problem is you cant find your language?13:29
ksftI made a custom keyboard layout for it13:30
marius_there is keyboard settings somewhere in your menus .. if you had mate it would be easier13:30
ksftwhen I select it, it still uses the English layout13:30
ksftI understand that13:30
ksftI found the keyboard settings13:30
marius_yeah when you installed ubuntu?13:30
marius_ok13:30
ksftI selected the custom keyboad layout13:30
marius_and saved it?13:30
ksftsure, yeah13:30
bodomdoes anybody know a way to create a filesystem in a dynamic size file?13:30
marius_delete the old layout thats there13:31
marius_re-add the custom layout13:31
ksftthere isn't anything to save, but I closed the settings window13:31
ksftyou can't remove a layout if there's only one13:31
marius_it says you have a custom layout, like mine said i had norwegian keyboard, but i still had english keyboard13:31
marius_add another... delete the one thats there13:31
marius_random one13:31
marius_or make a custom one, so you have 2 keyboard layouts13:31
marius_then delete the one on the bottom13:31
marius_sucks but this is a bug13:31
ksftI can select ones that come with it13:32
ksftlike Norwegian13:32
ksftææøø--.,å¨13:32
marius_yep.. but your language was something else.. la.. something13:32
sarbojitHi guys anyone knows the ubuntu kernel team's IRC channel ?13:32
ksftI can't use my custom layout, though13:32
ksftLojban13:32
sarbojitthanks in advance for you help...13:32
marius_what country is that?13:32
ksft...Lojbanistan?13:32
ksftit's a constructed language13:32
MonkeyDustsarbojit  #ubuntu-kernel13:33
marius_uhm.. ok13:33
ksftdon't worry about it13:33
sarbojitthanks a bunch MonkeyDust13:33
grobda24MonkeyDust: yes, http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/pulseaudio ... tried removing "libpulse0" but that tries to remove everything, desktop environments and a lot more. I'll try others.13:33
BluesKajHey folks13:33
BuDyhi13:35
zykotick9grobda24: are you _sure_ you want to remove pulse?  note, gnome depdends on it (i'm not sure about kde/xfce, they also might?)13:36
grobda24MonkeyDust: seems to have got everything else apart fomr that library. I wonder if there are some package errors not resetting things back to what they should be. Somewhere the audio default is still set to pulse <releases sniffer dog>13:36
BuDydo you know a french chat13:38
zykotick9!fr | BuDy13:38
ubottuBuDy: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:38
BuDythank13:38
ubuntu892Hey there, anyone has installed Ubuntu 16.04 Dual Boot with Windows 10?13:39
BuDyjoin #ubuntu - fr13:40
zykotick9grobda24: i'd strongly suggest running "apt-cache rdepends libpulse0" and check if you can really live without all those programs!  i don't run pulse, but i've not libpulse0 installed!13:40
zykotick9s/i've not/i've got/13:41
ksfthah!13:41
ksftI DID IT13:41
ksftI made a mistake and had two characters in a row for one of the keys13:42
ksftapparently that isn't allowed, but I just got the super helpful message "Error loading new keyboard description"13:42
lernersudo iftop -F wlan0 should show in and outcomming traffic for wlan0, correct?13:50
* grobda24 <sniffer dog returns>13:51
Hydr0p0nXcan anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf dvds report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount, unless I manually mount it13:51
grobda24MonkeyDust: Hah ! Found it: "$ cat /etc/libao.conf ... default_driver=pulse ... quiet". Change "pulse" to "default" and the sound then plays.13:52
lianwhat is here?13:57
akiklian: ubuntu support by volunteers13:59
mark999When I try to uninstall firefox or thunderbird I get a message that Mate desktop will be uninstalled.  Can I not uninstall these?13:59
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baizonmark999: this are meta packages14:00
baizonmark999: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages14:00
Myrttimark999: you can, they're only meta-packages. Just keep in mind that when you want to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu, it will be a good idea to install those in before doing an upgrade.14:00
mark999OK, thank you.  I'll research MetaPackages but will leave them if they're important.14:01
zykotick9mark999: and _never_ run "sudo apt-get autoremove" after, or your DE will be removed :|14:01
mark999zykotick9:  OK, good to know.  I will make a note of that.  Thanks!14:03
tambuHey folks, I installed Kubuntu to try it out.. but I think I'd like to switch back to Ubuntu.. can I just remove the kubuntu packages and install some sort of ubuntu packages to make the switch or is it more complicated?14:04
zykotick9mark999: probably after every apt run, you get a list of things apt wants to remove, and will suggest the autoremove...  "breaking" meta packages isn't the greatest idea, why do you want to remove firefox/thunderbird?  do you _really_ need the space?14:04
EriC^^tambu: if you just installed, i'd just fresh install ubuntu14:05
tambuEriC^^ :( I'd prefer to avoid that if possible.. I have it setup as a server with a lot of configuration.. multi-nic/webserver/nzb etc14:05
mark999zykotick9: I won't use them but got a message that updates needed to be downloaded.14:05
grobda24tambu: you should be able to swtich to normal Ubuntu at the login screen.14:06
EriC^^tambu14:06
zykotick9mark999: well, it's certainly "up to you", but leaving them might be the easiest... ymmv.14:06
mark999zykotick9: Yes, I am going to leave them now.  Thank you.14:06
EriC^^tambu: yeah you can remove them14:06
EriC^^i thought you meant you just installed kubuntu iso14:07
FinetundraAnyone know if I'd be able to get KDE 5 on ubuntu 14.04?14:07
tambugrobda24: I don't see any options to switch from KDE at the GUI login14:07
EriC^^tambu: it should be to the right somewhere i think14:07
zykotick9tambu: have you installed the ubuntu-desktop package?14:08
deadmundI have found this displaylink driver for my usb monitor: http://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu   and I had it working on 14.04 (which is supported).  Anybody willing to help be get it working in ubuntu 16.04?14:08
deadmundIt isntalls fine but complains about the kernel version.14:08
tambuzykotick9: no I installed Kubuntu as the system install so I was hoping there was a way to "switch" to using" Gnome KDE isn't for me.. I'd like to remove KDE if it can be done safely too.14:09
MonkeyDustFinetundra  with a ppa, several howto's can be found, here's one http://askubuntu.com/questions/492599/how-to-install-and-test-kde-plasma-5-on-ubuntu-14-0414:09
tambuperhaps I should upgrade to 16.04 first14:10
zykotick9tambu: i'd suggest installing the "ubuntu-desktop" meta-package, which will install everything that comes with default "ubuntu"... then switch to it from the login screen.14:10
tambuzykotick9: hrm ok thank u I will give that a go14:10
vijuWhy can't I hibernate?14:11
vijuUbuntu 16 here.14:11
MonkeyDustviju  use pm-hibernate14:11
wafflej0cktambu, Ubuntu uses Unity for the DE by default now too but there is an Ubuntu Gnome version if you want Gnome 3 or ubuntu-mate but believe ubuntu-mate has it's own support channel14:12
vijuMonkeyDust: I want some kind of button that'd allow me to hibernate.14:12
zykotick9viju: "sudo systemctl hibernate" is the systemd based version, have you tried that?  hibernate on ubuntu are sketchy sometimes - good luck.14:12
vijuI had done it in ubuntu 12.04, just not sure how.14:12
MonkeyDustviju  use a custom keyboard shortcut, that executes pm-hibernate ... use visudo to override root permission14:13
zykotick9MonkeyDust: do you happen to know, does "systemctl hibernate" work on ubuntu without sudo?14:13
FinetundraMonkeyDust:14:14
FinetundraCannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next'.14:14
FinetundraPlease check that the PPA name or format is correct.14:14
MonkeyDustFinetundra  better contact the ppa maintainer14:14
vijuI guess this is the one I used http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/14:16
vijuWhat do you think about the last part zykotick914:16
MonkeyDustzykotick9  it asked the passowrd, just tried14:16
zykotick9MonkeyDust: thanks, good to know.  /me used an arch-based distro where it wasn't required, it shocked me..14:17
zykotick9viju: sorry, as far as enabling "hibernate" in the menu, i have NO idea....  best of luck.14:19
aguitelhow to convert dvd files to mkv ?14:30
MonkeyDustaguitel  try winff14:31
MonkeyDustaguitel  or devede14:31
aguitelok14:31
shioriaguitel, i think handbrake can do this14:31
MonkeyDustthat makes three options14:32
aguiteli have the dvd files in my hd14:32
aguitelno dvd with me14:32
Defiance_aguitel: have you tried handbrake?14:33
aguitelnever14:33
destinyhello14:33
aguiteli will try14:33
gruppo1Ciao!14:35
lotuspsychje!it | gruppo114:35
ubottugruppo1: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:35
KeyboardNotFoundCan I upgrade to 16.04 without reinstalling OS ?14:36
lotuspsychjeKeyboardNotFound: from wich version?14:36
KeyboardNotFound15.1014:36
lotuspsychjeKeyboardNotFound: you can upgrade yes, but always make a backup first14:37
lotuspsychjeKeyboardNotFound: what graphics card chipset do you have?14:37
vijuLast time it was Empathy, before that it was Pidgin, which multiprotocol supporting IM is good?14:38
KeyboardNotFoundlotuspsychje, AMD Radeon14:38
lotuspsychjeKeyboardNotFound: you have the radeon driver active or fglrx?14:38
KeyboardNotFoundlotuspsychje, I'm using integrated graphics card14:39
Harrishi14:39
lotuspsychjeKeyboardNotFound: is it hybrid?14:39
HarrisI'm having an issue with login14:40
Harriscan anyone help14:40
lotuspsychje!ask | Harris14:40
ubottuHarris: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:40
Harrisok so I'm trying to login on ubuntuforums. I already have an ubuntuone account, to which I'm already logged in. After I click " complete registration " it says " Your username cannot be longer than 25 characters." but my username isn't longer than 25 characters ... I can't find a contact link or something to get it sorted.14:41
wafflej0ckHarris, see the contact an admin section here most likely someone there can help http://ubuntuforums.org/faq.php?faq=vb3_reading_posting#faq_vb3_contact_admin14:43
Harrisok, is this the adress? ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com14:44
ProficientWombatSo I heard that you can finally move the Unity launcher to the bottom of the display in 16.04.14:47
wafflej0ckHarris, yeah appears so apparently trying to avoid bots scraping for e-mails there's also the link there for Ubuntu One single sign on support, not sure anyone in the chat here admins or works directly on the forum (maybe but haven't seen much chat about it)14:47
MonkeyDustProficientWombat  in 16.04 ... gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom14:48
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neyder1hello14:49
neyder1xchat isn't available in 16.04, can you recommend a new irc client? pidgin isn't good enpugh14:49
MonkeyDust!irc | neyder114:50
ubottuneyder1: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines14:50
squintyhexchat14:50
lotuspsychje!xchat | neyder114:50
ubottuneyder1: xchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.14:50
Harrisicechat14:50
neyder1i'll try hexchat14:51
curlyearsgreets14:52
HarrisI think I'm going to install ubuntu or something14:53
Harrisbeen having issues with lubuntu :(14:54
neyder_Thanks bros14:54
HarrisI can't install a language pack " Check your internet connection "14:54
MonkeyDustHarris  great, you're already in the correct channel14:54
lotuspsychje!flavors | Harris have a pick14:54
ubottuHarris have a pick: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE14:54
jeffoso many! hard to pick one without trying them all14:55
HarrisI've used Ubuntu before, I just thought of trying something new and maybe more lightweight14:55
lotuspsychjejeffo: check the website first14:55
curlyearsjeffo: so many what?14:55
curlyearsah14:55
jeffoflavors of ubuntu, i'd like to try running it but don't know where to start14:56
MonkeyDustjeffo  Harris http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM14:56
EriC^^jeffo: install unity, then use virtualbox to test out other desktops14:56
curlyearsI can't say I've heard anything against any of the distros, but ubuntu seems to be a popular favorite14:56
rsullyHas anyone here gotten 16.04 fresh install done with ZFS root? I tried last night but started running into errors and the guide I was using is only like 10% finished I'd guess.14:56
jeffognome looks good14:57
daum_hey guys i have a ubuntu 14.04 server which has two interfaces one public and one private, both are static ips configured like this: http://pastebin.com/h1Zx0QJ0 .  when i try to ping outside networks it seems to be going over only the internal one, so the destination is unreachable.  Any ideas how to fix that?14:57
jeffoEriC^^, thank you!14:57
curlyearsjeffo:  I would recommend starting with the plain-vanilla canonical distro.14:57
HarrisI've been pleased with Lubuntu so far, but some things still need work. It kinda feels unfinished14:57
EriC^^jeffo: no problem!14:57
curlyearsjeffo:  the one from www.ubuntu.com14:57
onanoHarris, if you have a low spec'd system Lubuntu is good14:58
onanobut if you need more finish try xubuntu14:58
onanoit's more polished in terms of UX14:58
HarrisI know, but I'm having trouble getting the German language pack :314:58
curlyearsonano:  may I request a clarification of the term "finish?"14:58
Harrisit says " check your internet connection " .. but I'm already connected to the internet14:58
jeffoso, i'm sorry to be so noob but i am going to install this as a second OS that i boot to right?14:59
curlyearsjeffo:  that is up to you, usually14:59
onanocurlyears, Sorry, Poor choice of words polished user interface is what i meant there.15:00
jeffoi'm also not opposed to just getting rid of windows totally, so could boot right to unity or xubuntu. Never done a dual boot system15:00
curlyearsonano:  s'ok.  thanks15:00
curlyearsjeffo:  persoally, I would shhit-can Winblows.  (disclaimer:  I am a rabid Microsoft/Bill Gates hater)15:01
onanoHarris, try rebooting and then install sometimes this trick works15:01
curlyearswhat can I do under 14.04.4 with a .deb file?15:01
deadmundIs there a standard python module to move the mouse around / get mouse position / click and get clicks?15:02
jeffocurlyears, the crap with Win 10 has really pushed me over the edge15:03
onanodeadmund, #python is the better place to ask python specific questions15:03
deadmundoh, haha, wrong channel15:03
deadmundsorry!15:03
onanonp15:03
curlyearsI have never seen nor used any Winblows past 715:03
akikdeadmund: https://github.com/rshk/python-libxdo15:04
onanocurlyears, damn! /me looks at my Windows xp past15:04
deadmundakik: thanks15:04
curlyearsi don't bel;ieve anyone has solved the problem of how to move a mouse under software control (barring the use of a robot)15:04
akikcurlyears: xdotool15:05
curlyearsonano:  I didn't use XP or 7 to any great degree, merely had exposure to them15:05
curlyearsakik:  what is xdotool/15:06
curlyears?15:06
Harrissame thing15:06
akikcurlyears: it let's you move the mouse programmatically15:06
HarrisI guess I'll download Ubuntu15:06
Harrisor maybe try a new distro15:06
curlyearsakik:  given that mice don't include any form of propulsion, much less software enabled propulsion, hohw do they accomplish this amazing feat?15:07
akikcurlyears: coding. it's some kind of black magic15:08
curlyearsakik:  I am pretty sure you mean movement of the CURSOR.15:08
curlyears, not the MOOUSE15:08
sarbojitI tried sabayon for a while....15:08
Samureusthere's a pesky little nag with nm-applet, you have to get the interface name from "nmcli d" in order for the network monitor applet to work15:08
sarbojitdidn't find it charming enough ... !! :(15:09
akikthere's some kind of sarcasm going on. luckily english is not my first language :)15:09
curlyearsthe cursor is on the screen and an indicatr of mouse positiion.  The mouse sits on the tabletop, and is mechanically and manually positioned to conntrol the cursor.15:09
sarbojitakik, what's your first language15:09
akiksarbojit: it's off topic for the channel but finnish15:10
sarbojithey sorry akik, just was curious!15:10
sarbojitat my wits end setting up my wifi card in 16.0415:10
sarbojitit works sometimes and then just goes dead..15:11
faultoverrideHello,  I am trying to forward X11 through ssh.  Everything appears to be working until a program tries use opengl.  glxgears fails with Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual. glxinfo says it can't find GLX.  I can post more logs to pastebin if any one is willing to help.15:11
sarbojittill next reboot.15:11
zykotick9faultoverride: i rather doubt you can do 3d with X11-ssh-forwarding...15:12
curlyearssarbojit:  seen lots of people in your posaitioon.  I am guessing wireless sup[port is one of the areas of remaining instability, abd among reasons canonical does NOT recommend upgrading at this time15:12
Smatic_1find : file system loop detectd; '/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl' ispart of the same system loop as15:12
Smatic_1?15:12
sarbojitcurlyears, thanks but I just switched from sabayon to 16.04 cause I wanted a decent distro to support my new skylake laptop15:13
fkmdnhelp! i installed a jawa app and it looks like c..p! what should i do?15:13
sarbojitI am fed up switching distros :-(15:13
onanosarbojit, skylake support is still pretty much WIP atm if i recall correctly15:14
fkmdnmenus and buttons are barely legible15:14
faultoverridezykotick9 , that was my fear. I wanted to compare the performance to streaming games with the steam app.  Thanks for the input.15:14
Smatic_1to run ecryptfs-recover-private I get  find : file system loop detectd; '/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl' ispart of the same system loop as15:14
Smatic_1help\15:14
sarbojit:-( but does it justify that I will not get a good support for the *this* NW card:? 0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter15:14
sarbojitAs you can clearly see curlyears, Realtek 8723BE should be well supported.15:15
fkmdnnot only fonts are terrible but dialogs are opened completely offscreen15:15
sarbojitSadly it works but after a period of inactvity, it just goes dead.15:16
sarbojitUntil I reboot again.15:16
sarbojit:-(15:16
curlyearssaboyon:  I think you'd be better off with 14.04.4 LTS15:16
sarbojitand why do you say so?15:17
sarbojitActually you're telling me to downgrade to 14.04.415:17
Samureusubuntu studio is nice, just sayin...15:18
curlyearssarbojit:  because the developers of 16.04 will tell you flat out it is NOT stable15:18
OlotilaHow do I make Nautilus go UP one folder with Backspace?15:18
sarbojitI see.15:18
akiksarbojit: there's newer kernels through kernel mainline15:18
sarbojitWill 14.04.4 support my skylake ?15:18
sarbojitI guess -no-15:18
MonkeyDustin 16.04.1 maybe15:18
curlyearssarbojit:   define "support"15:19
sarbojitin that case I need to do an *extra* work setting it up. -15:19
akiksarbojit: i have a skylake in acer f5-572g. power management seems to be quite bad15:19
tme5does anyone actually get better performance with the X intel module?15:19
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onanosarbojit, you have to understand "skylake" : "pretty new" so, support (acc. to you) can be a bit of a issue15:19
tme5people are saying that it's not good except on very old hardware15:20
sarbojitcurlyears, by *support* I meant things should *just work* out of box. I was an ARCH linux guy once but nowadays I really do not have time setting up the system for couple of hours that's all. I may be able to figure out the problem but that will demand time.15:20
tme5the sid package says it's discouraged https://packages.debian.org/sid/xserver-xorg-video-intel15:21
curlyearssarbojit:  translation:   until someone with the right com,bination of the skills, the motivation , and a skylake in hand undertakes to makew it fully functional for the skylakw,, probably not15:21
fkmdnany help with jawa app?15:21
sarbojitSo I wanted get it up and running as soon as possible without me sitting with it through the night.15:21
firmanexcuse me, can I rename or re-configure the encfs folder?15:21
sarbojitcurlyears, I understand.15:21
tme5and yet it is installed by default on ubuntu. maybe there should be a more thorough h/w check?15:21
sarbojitI think may be I can have a deeper look at the wifi card.15:22
tme5firman, yep15:22
firmanhow to do that?15:22
firmantme515:22
sarbojitalso kernel spams PCIE error a lot. I had to put pcie_aspm=off in kernel command line to shut it off. May be an issue with power management.15:22
sarbojitThe device might not be able to wake up after driver suspends it.15:23
tme5firman, man encfsctl15:23
OerHeksfkmdn, jawa ? or java?\15:23
effectneti am having that error again, dunno what to do.  'maximum number of clients reached, cannot open display'15:23
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curlyearsagain, sarbokit:  16.04 is officially in an "unstable" state at this time15:23
sarbojithmmm ... I see15:23
fkmdnjava no matter15:24
tme5firman, renaming the folder is done as normal. but encfsctl will let you configure it15:24
OerHeksfkmdn, try #java15:24
sarbojitthank you for you patience curlyears :-) Much appreciated.15:24
akikcurlyears: what do you mean by officially?15:24
fkmdni wont it's ubuntu which acts up15:24
firmantme5, okay got it! I'll try15:24
sarbojitakik, he meant that devs are still testing the distro... it might give you a few bumpy rides15:24
sarbojitknow what I mean?15:24
curlyearssarbojit:  ok...not complely sure I wqas "patient" with you, but you're welcome anyway15:25
nebganyone here knows of any free vps server ?  i don't need performance i just want to learn something about server management for linux, like setting up an email server etc...15:25
sarbojitcurlyears, that was being patient. I had seen worse.15:25
sarbojithave*15:25
OerHeksfkmdn,  then give us some details, what ubuntu version, what java app, what java version, and your issue?15:25
curlyearsakik: Canonical Inc. has officially labelled 16.04 an unstable release CANDIDATE.  Not ready for primte time15:26
OerHeksnebg, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only15:26
akikcurlyears: wow is it mentioned at ubuntu.com ?15:26
curlyearssarbojit:  *grin*15:26
rsullycurlyears wat? source?15:26
zykotick9curlyears: what are you talking about?  16.04 is ubuntu's current stable release?15:27
nebgOerHeks, i'm on ubuntu15:27
curlyearsakik:   try looking at canonical.com15:27
fkmdn12.04, omegat, have no idea, fonts are unreadable and dialogs open offscreen15:27
akik!fud15:28
ubottuPlease do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt15:28
curlyearszykotick9:  canonical recommends upgrading to it until the official July release15:28
rsullycurlyears I'm not seeing *anything* that supports this15:28
sarbojitanyone knows ubuntu's kernel team channel ?15:28
zykotick9curlyears: that's just LTS->LTS upgrades... it's always like that15:28
Myrtticurlyears: if you have the LTS version. If you don't, you're perfectly fine updating now.15:29
Abhijithi15:29
sarbojitI tried ubuntu-kernel but its getting spammed15:29
curlyearscanonical is who officially supports and manages the development of ubuntu\15:29
rsullycurlyears no one is arguing with that, but you're not backing up what you said15:29
curlyearsthen why the warning that it isn't recommended for production servers?15:29
rsullyagain, provide a link15:30
Abhijitwill kubunut 16.04 get all official security + other updates? or only ubuntu gets it? shall i get kubuntu or get ubunutu and then install kde?15:30
fkmdnAbhijit, they use the same repos so yes15:30
curlyearsgo look at canonicak.com's announcements re: 16.0415:30
akikcurlyears: please provide a link to that information. otherwise you're spreading fud15:30
curlyearsakik:  I don't have the link immediate;y to hand, but I DID read it.  I will go look for it, and bring in a linbk.  sowwy15:31
Abhijitfkmdn, ok. will get kubuntu then15:32
* curlyears will hopefully be runnning 16.04 on a 64bit Pi3 creditcard sized computer15:32
rsullycurlyears this is the only announcement I can find http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/20/canonical-unveils-6th-lts-release-of-ubuntu-with-16-04/15:33
rsullycurlyears canonical.com does not have any info, it links to ubuntu.com and insight.ubuntu.com for news/press15:33
effectnetam i using compiz on my 16.04?15:33
rsullyinsights*15:33
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fosseldoes anyone know why 16.04 out of the box makes a connection to an ip address in virginia usa as soon as you enable wifi?15:34
fossela quick search shows there's a dozen websites using that ip address, many detected on virustotal serving windows malware, domain name resolution is https://secure-lvfs.rhcloud.com which apparently has something to do with updating firmware on Linux15:34
curlyearsrsully:  OK, I clcicked a link on canonical.com and found the page I am referncing.  I didn't ntice it had changed sites15:34
Hydr0p0nXcan anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf dvds report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount, unless I manually mount it15:35
curlyearsrsully:  and though I admit it isn't my resposibilty to police the channel, we don't support 16.04 in here\15:36
rsullycurlyears LOL look at the topic - such lies15:36
autechycurlyears: man, you need some reality checks15:36
curlyearsah, the topic has been changed.  I sit corrected.15:36
curlyearswhat, you thikk i STAND while IRCing?15:37
curlyears*blush*15:37
fkmdnmy java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??15:37
OerHeksfossel, seems a legal linux update site for firmware, when your system boots, it looks for updates, also there15:38
Myrtticurlyears: we do support 16.04 here, it says so in the topic.15:38
Myrtticurlyears: so please, stop.15:38
curlyearswhen I join this channel, there areso many usernames being scroled that the topic scrolls off the screen way to fast to be read15:38
Myrtticurlyears: try /topic15:38
curlyearsMyrtti:  I just did\15:38
Abhijitcurlyears, you can turn off the join leave message in your irc software15:39
curlyearsAbhijit:   using BitchX out of the box, as it were15:39
soilentgreenHi! I just upgraded my ASUS ROG G751 to Ubuntu 16.04, seeing some weird issues with the trackpad. The only way that the click buttons work is if I have one finger on the touchpad, then click. Only the main button works. Any ideas?15:40
Abhijitcurlyears, go to its settings and turn it off15:40
fosselOerHeks: yeah it looks like this is was it is > https://github.com/hughsie/fwupd15:40
curlyearsAbhijit:  yeah, whenn I get around to custumizing my install, i will.  I have much larger problems to think about right now )-:15:41
TheMariusvery nice job ubuntu! now my mate's set up allmost like i want it.. just gui tweaks left :D15:41
Abhijitcurlyears, ok. was just telling you15:42
curlyearsthanks. Abhijit15:42
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curlyearsonce again:  how do I install a .deb?  I use spt-get on thisa sstem,15:43
curlyearsapt-get15:43
Abhijitcurlyears, 1. you dont. use package manager. 2. if you must double click on it or go to terminal and do dpkg -i packagenam.deb15:43
soilentgreendkpg -i15:43
jonatanto install a .deb you use ubuntu sofware center/mintinstall or apt-get15:44
curlyearsaah, dpkg.  THAT is where I misunderstood.  I thought I saw smeone say apt-get -i <packagename>15:44
curlyearsjonatan:  apt-get failed spectaculary.  It dummped a listing of every line in the .deb, with the message "not found" after every one\15:45
jonatansorry i can't help you whit that (i have never used apt-get to install a .deb)15:47
soilentgreenYeah, you use dpkg. Unless you have dependancies... I believe then you would do just apt. Normally on Debian based systems, I'm using a GUI. If you were using a redhat derivative, I could easily tell you how to do it via cmdline.15:47
curlyearsfor the record;  I am a retired software engineer, and used to use ubuntu everyday in my work.  I am newly returned to using it after a 3.5 year absence, and I don't remember a lot of stuff.15:47
curlyearsI  probably come off as if I thinkI am an expert, for which I apologize15:48
soilentgreenUbuntu makes it easy to not remember. I don't think I've ever needed a man page on Ubuntu, unless I was using the server edition.15:48
curlyearsby the by:  don't get old.  It SUCKS15:48
Abhijitcurlyears.age -+ 5015:49
Abhijit-=15:49
soilentgreenIts all good. I just reject Windows and use Linux everywhere, even at work.15:49
soilentgreenYeah, I'm trying not to get old. It's not working.15:49
* curlyears <--- 64 in July15:49
akiki learned something new a couple of days ago. if you install a .deb which wants some extra packages for dependencies you can just use apt-get -f install15:49
soilentgreencool15:49
soilentgreenThat's definitely useful.15:50
Abhijitnot cool. its fixing things. not a recommended way of doing things.15:50
curlyearsapt-get -f install <.deb-package-name>   ??15:50
Abhijituse apt-get or software center.15:50
akikcurlyears: just apt-get -f install15:50
Abhijitcurlyears, no15:50
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akikin my case chrome and virtualbox15:51
curlyearssomeone in here recommended apt-get install <.deb-package-name>  the otherday.  Failed spectacularly, as Ijust explainf a few lines ago\15:51
Harristhis is weird, I just updated Lubuntu and it says that I can upgrade to Ubuntu15:51
Harrisdoesn't Lubuntu have its own upgrades?15:52
Harristhat's not an upgrade, it's a switch15:52
Abhijitakik, those are exceptions. and the provides who provide them are aware of it and take care of them15:52
inocuousI have to say, my firefox is behaving very well under 16.0415:52
curlyearscan't use Software Center for this install  )-:15:52
curlyearswish I could15:52
soilentgreenTo some of us who love Unity and really don't like LXDE, It could be considered an upgrade.15:53
soilentgreen;-)15:53
curlyearsinocuous:  mine isn't )-:  no one see,ms to be abe to assist me in finding out why.15:53
curlyearsmy thunderbird was misperforming aimilarly, but I noticed this morning that it is perfprming correctly again15:54
lernerwhat file manager should I use? thunar crashes quite often15:54
lerner16.0415:54
jonatanlerner: bash15:54
inocuouswhat kinds of issues were you having curlyears ?15:54
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curlyearsinocuouss;  on pages which arelonger than one screenful, the scroll bar on the left is not performing as it "should"15:55
InocuousI'll have to look at that. I usually mouse wheel to scroll15:56
B0g4r7_So I'm using gnome-session-flashback on 16.04, and I find that my Nautilus file manager windows, I'm not able to grab them by the edges and resize them.  They're instantiated at one size and that's what they stay.15:56
lernercommand bash does nothing jonatan15:57
curlyears1) no litlle up&down arrows boxes at the top&bottom, 2)  if you clicked anywhereon the scroll bar below the "button" the screen jumps to the very bttomof the page, if you click above the "button" it jumps to the very top  3)15:57
B0g4r7_Some other program windows are affected like this also, but not all windows.15:57
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InocuousI'm gonna try it.15:57
curlyearsthe only way to see content between the top & bottom is to "grab" the "button" and drag it (slowly) to where you want to view.   )-:15:58
jonatanlerner: bash is not a command15:58
curlyearsit wasn't doing this at the beginnning of the week, just started appearing this way about mid-week.  Very irritating15:59
zykotick9jonatan: ahhh "bash" is a command, just see "which bash"...  i think your joke fell flat with lerner, and technically, you should have said "core-utils" ;)16:00
KoshAfternoon all, anyone else having issues with thier bluetooth speakers not showing as an output option in Ubuntu 16.04 Gnome 3.18?16:00
soilentgreenactually, it is.. you run it to open a bash shell. If you are already in bash, it's going to open up a bash shell in the bash shell that you're already using.16:00
fkmdnmy java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??16:00
B0g4r7_I like running bash within bash sometimes.16:00
soilentgreenJust like you can run ksh, if you have Korn shell, or csh for cshell... etc..16:01
lernerzykotick9, is that an app?16:01
curlyearsI've een many people coming in and complaining about very wireless issues unnder 16.04this week16:01
B0g4r7_If I wanna break off from the task I'm doing and go do some subtask, I can just "exit" and be back in the original context with its working directory and command history and such.16:01
KoshThe bluetooth speaker connects fine, just doesnt show under the gnome menu as an output option..16:02
zykotick9lerner: NO.  jonatan was suggesting you use the terminal instead of a file-manager...  core-utils is the package that has a bunch of the core-GNU stuff, cp/mv/etc...16:02
born7hi16:02
born7i am Johnv from holland16:02
lernerzykotick9, using cli to copy and create new directories is gonna be awfully slow16:02
born7how are you16:02
curlyearsB0g4r7_:  you coud also open some virtual windows and then use the <function> keys to switch back and forth between them.16:02
born7hello world16:03
Guest27552hello16:03
tothbbalinthello to everybody!16:03
curlyearslerner:  I have seldom found that to be true\16:03
akiklerner: for the terminal usage, there's a file manager called mc16:03
Guest27552can anybody help me with a problemwith the greeter?16:03
curlyearstothbbalint!16:03
zykotick9lerner: well, perhaps for you... i find it MUCH faster than a GUI file-manager (BUT that's just my preference)... sorry i don't have any GUI file-manager suggestions for you, but there are several available...16:03
B0g4r7_curlyears, sure, or use screen or splitvt or some other solution.16:03
tothbbalintcurlyears, hello :)16:04
lernercurlyears, do you write a command every time you want to create a new directory?16:04
curlyearsApparently I manage to some up with some really strange peoblems, as seldom can any of the very knowledgable, people in here can assist e in resolving them16:05
tothbbalintI have an issue with my Asus laptop running Ubuntu 15.10. The mouse touchpad works only limitedly, I can move my mouse and click with it, but scrolling, two finger scrolling is not working. Any thoughts what could I try?16:05
akikcurlyears: i feel the same way sometimes :)16:07
B0g4r7_lerner, see, you need to learn to use the cli precisely because it's seen as obtuse and difficult.  Then you can be seen as 1337 for having mastered such a fickle beast.16:07
B0g4r7_To say nothing of having another set of tools in your bad, if you will, which you may find are better suited for use on some problems than the gui-based toolset.16:07
B0g4r7_bag16:07
alunohi16:07
thownisup16:08
lernermc = the bash that was mentioned before?16:08
AbhijitGuest27552, just ask16:08
alunobrs??????16:08
curlyearsakik:  in Dec, I received an automatic "software update" screen from canonical.  I OKed it, and it SAID it completed without any errors, and that I needed to reboot my system, to continue16:08
akiklerner: mc is the file manager which you start from bash16:08
Abhijitmidnight commander16:09
akikcurlyears: there's something seriously wrong with 16.04 software center16:09
curlyearsthat was that.  The system would NOT reboot.  Booted live DVD version, came on here, and asked fr help.  A) no one else had reported similar issues, and B) every suggestion from here I tried just made things worse.  THEN my live DVD stoppped booting.16:10
lernerif bash = cli, how did a language became synonymous with it?16:10
B0g4r7_Heh, I can't even find Software Center on 16.04.  Not in gnone-session-flashback anyway.16:10
akikB0g4r7_: i think the name on unity is ubuntu-software16:10
curlyearsafter 4 months of total frutration, I wen t ta local computrer shop and paid thgem to D/L ans burn a 16.04.4 DVD for m. e16:10
zykotick9lerner: bash is ONE shell, zsh is another...  it's not "cli" really16:11
B0g4r7_akik, yeah, I'm not using unity...16:11
Guest27552does anybody also got problems with the greeter not shown when booting with 2 monitors?16:11
curlyearssince then, I am unable to install the required new version of the gcode translator/contoller package for 3D printer, and just this morning, a pushed auto-update failed.  Didn't dsay why, just that it failed16:12
akikB0g4r7_: i'm using kubuntu and on it, it's called plasma-discover. that doesn't work either so i had to install muon16:12
curlyearsGuest27552:  "greeting?"   Do you mean the splash page"?16:13
Guest27552hey, i mean the login where you enter the pw16:13
Guest27552it is not displayed when i boot with 2 monitors16:14
curlyearsoh, the initial login screen...OK.  No, I have no multi-monitor experience, sorry16:14
akikGuest27552: i had problems with lightdm and the login screen16:16
curlyearsthe only problem I have with thhis 27" widescreen display is that I have only one good eye, and I keeep "losing" the cursor on the large screen  *heh*16:16
akikGuest27552: but this was on 14.04. there are scripts in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ which could help you16:16
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lernerlink to a mc wiki please16:17
emitattuocurlyears, mouse trails on?  Large cursor?16:17
Abhijitcurlyears, increase cursor size?16:17
Abhijitlerner, press F1 after launching mc16:17
zykotick9lerner: be aware mc is a terminal based file-manger, not gui!16:17
akiklerner: https://www.midnight-commander.org/16:17
B0g4r7_curlyears, you know compiz has a "show mouse" effect and some other similar things availavle in ccsm.16:18
Abhijitlerner, and https://www.midnight-commander.org/16:18
curlyearsemitattuo:  how do I select a l;arge cursor?  I'd LOVE that!16:18
curlyearsI do nnot know what ccsm, or compiz ARE16:19
lernerpressing f1 asks me if I want to read the xfce manual16:19
lernerf2 opens an user menu16:20
fkmdnmy java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??16:20
emitattuocurlyears, it would be in the mouse settings.  Do you know which desktop you use (Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, etc)?16:20
akiklerner: you can use esc+number to access those options at the bottom. esc+9 to access the top menu16:21
B0g4r7_curlyears, you can "apt install compizconfig-settings-manager", then run "ccsm", and you'll see some options to change the GUI behavior, including one called "show mouse" for making the mouse cursomr more visible.16:21
curlyearsI think  I am in gnome. Isn't that the default for 14.04.4?16:21
emitattuocurlyears, compiz is used for visual effects and doing fancy things with windows.16:22
MonkeyDustcurlyears  the default is unity, with the bar on the left and a symbol on top, you have to click16:22
Guest27552brb16:23
curlyearsweird.  Alll of a sudden, by term screen filled the entire screen of my  monnitor, and I can't access the control bar at the top, or they susyem bar at the side.  What happened?16:23
emitattuocurlyears, there are many options, so if you don't like the way one works, it isn't that hard to switch.16:23
lernermanpages are activated with: mc manpages <?16:23
fkmdni remember how unity developer was insulting people and saying unity launcher will only be on the left16:23
fkmdnthen chinese ordered it on the bottom and here we are16:23
MonkeyDustlerner  the man pages use 'less' in the terminal16:23
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Abhijitlerner, man mc16:24
zykotick9lerner: to open a man page use "man WHATYOUWANT"16:24
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B0g4r7_curlyears, maybe you pressed f11?16:24
emitattuolerner, though you don't have to shout at it :)16:24
xanguaMan iwantrice16:24
MonkeyDustlerner  try   man firefox, to see what it does16:25
zykotick9emitattuo: ;)16:25
curlyearsB0g4r7_:  possibly, but not on purpose.  How do I get out of it?16:25
B0g4r7_f11 again?16:25
nchambersMonkeyDust, well, it actually uses the PAGER env variable, but that it typically set to less16:25
curlyearsahh, thanks B0g4r7_16:26
lernerthats a big manpages16:26
curlyearsyeah, the menu in Mouse & Touchpad under System Settings only has an option for "primary key" and "mouse speed"  nnothing else16:27
MonkeyDustlerner  q to quit the man page16:28
emitattuocurlyears, sorry, I don't use Unity.  Try the settings under Accessability16:28
emitattuolerner, info is also a good command to know to get help with things.  It is used in a similar way.16:29
lernerinfo mc?16:29
MonkeyDustlerner  yes, info mc is a good example16:30
emitattuoI just upgraded to 15.04 from 14.10 (x64) and now have an issue starting X.  I have failures during system startup starting Simple Desktop Display Manager and at the end it throws me to a console login.  I can log in OK, but running startx gives me an error: parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/vtty0 (No such file or directory)16:31
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curlyearsnaw, I've scanned through all reasonable possibilities under System Settings and there is nothing the offers an option fo cursor size (or any other cursor attribute)16:31
curlyears*grrr*16:32
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curlyearsbe back in a while.  Thank you, all16:32
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ShowMeTheFunnyHi16:33
Solarbab1Just read that I should be able to access snappy apps from the software center now.  Opening up the Ubuntu Software center I didn't see anything that looked different though16:33
emitattuohi ShowMeTheFunny16:34
emitattuocurlyears, I just found something..16:34
ShowMeTheFunnyHowdy emitattuo16:34
aagam349Can anyone help for the Ubutnu 16.04 ethernet issues its not connecting to the internet16:35
ShowMeTheFunnyaagam349, describe the symptoms.16:35
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aagam349acutuall I have a ethernet lan in which I have to make a DSL connetion and enter USERname and password provided by the ISP. it was working fine on 15.10 but now its not working and getting disconneted every time.16:37
aagam349and my interface names are also changed after the update like eth0 is now elsp70 that16:38
MonkeyDustaagam349  yes, the names have changed, new conventions16:39
akikaagam349: you can get the old interface names back by adding a kernel  parameter net.ifnames=016:39
kelalakaselam16:40
aagam349Ya ok but the main issue is with the internet is not conneted through ethernet.16:40
HarrisI am somehow upgrading my Lubuntu to Ubuntu16:41
fkmdn!id16:41
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia16:41
fkmdnmy java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??16:42
onanofkmdn, it's your developed app? if yes? ##java is best place to ask your question16:43
fkmdnno its from repo!!16:43
onanoname of app16:43
fkmdnomegaT16:43
MonkeyDust!find omega16:44
ubottuFound: golang-gomega-dev, omega-rpg, omegat, omegat-plugin-tokenizer, r-cran-rggobi, r-omegahat-xmlrpc, texlive-omega, xapian-omega, W:, W: (and 19 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=omega&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all16:44
onanofkmdn, what java version you have?16:44
MonkeyDust!info omegat16:44
ubottuomegat (source: omegat): Computer Assisted Translation (CAT) tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.0.1+dfsg-4 (xenial), package size 8458 kB, installed size 19705 kB16:44
onanois it openjdk or oracle one?16:44
fkmdndefault ubuntu java... openjdk?16:45
onanofkmdn, omegaT site suggests to use oracle jdk16:45
_vincenz_!lista16:45
ubottu_vincenz_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:45
_vincenz_|ciao16:45
onano!es16:46
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:46
_vincenz_!lista16:46
ubottu_vincenz_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:46
fkmdnit's it16:46
onanofkmdn, sorry16:46
onanopardon16:46
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curlyears*sigh*16:48
curlyearsso,meome ,ake me feel better:  ask a question I know the answer to16:49
curlyears*heh*16:49
onanocurlyears, any nice themes for lubuntu16:49
emitattuooh, welcome back, curlyears16:50
emitattuocurlyears, still looking at staying with Unity?16:50
curlyearsthanks, emitattuo16:50
curlyearsemitattuo :  I know of no other options.16:50
MonkeyDust!themes | onano16:50
ubottuonano: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy16:50
faultoverridecurlyears , How can I get an X server to start without  the '-nolisten tcp' flag?16:51
curlyearssorry, fau;ltoverride, I am X ignorant16:51
curlyearsbut thanks for trying, *heh*16:52
MonkeyDustfaultoverride  this channel is ubuntu specific, better ask in ##linux16:52
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curlyearsI once used bc to calculate The NUmber of the Beast.  6^6^6.  the result iin base 10 is ovr 27000 digits, took 8 hours on a 6 Mhz MC68000 under Xenix16:53
curlyearswith no other user processed running16:53
curlyearsprocesses16:54
MonkeyDustcurlyears  great, but that's not for this channel16:54
curlyearsI wish I culd remember how I did that.  6^6 was too big an argument for the exponent of the calc  6^(^6)16:55
curlyears(6^6)16:55
aquilesHii16:56
curlyearsdamned sticky keyboard16:56
faultoverrideMonkeyDust : My mistake. I was asking here because I am unable to find the config file that enables that flag. I will try asking in the linux channel. Thank you for the help.16:56
emitattuocurlyears, I think MonkeyDust is referring to this being a support channel, not as much a social channel.  There's an off-topic channel, though we could join for interesting dicussion.16:57
aquilesSomeone16:57
curlyearsif I could remember how to factor it correctly, I'd run it on this 3.6Ghz 8 core AMD64.  Bet it wouldn't take long16:57
lernerdoes mc have a channel?16:58
emitattuohi Aquiles16:58
curlyearsmc?16:58
emitattuomidnight commander = mc16:58
aquilesHii thanks :)16:58
MonkeyDustlerner  not every single program has it own channel ... type /msg alis list [blah]16:58
Guest91327hey16:59
aquilesI'm new16:59
aquilesI'm using Ubuntu phone and I install chatter irc to test16:59
curlyearsask your question, aquiles16:59
Guest91327i have played around a bit with the position of the greeter and it helped once16:59
emitattuocurlyears, it's #ubuntu-offtopic if you haven't seen it yet.16:59
curlyearsdo we support uubuntu phone/16:59
MonkeyDust!phone17:00
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch17:00
Guest91327and the greeter is displayed when both screens show the same17:00
shekharis there a link to install ubuntu on my pc through a USB ???17:00
shekhar* link with instructions i mean17:00
Guest91327but the greeter is gone when i switch dual screen17:00
aquilesBefore I'm using ubuntu phone I have been a android user17:00
MonkeyDustshekhar  insert usb stick in the pc, boot from the usb stick, follow instructions17:00
curlyearsMonkeyDust: assuming your hardware supports USB boot17:01
fkmdnok how can I remove openjdk?17:01
bekksfkmdn: apt uninstall ...17:02
aquilesI have been able to configure and use owncloud in my phone17:02
bekkserrr, apt remove17:02
TheMariusubuntu mate should be ubuntus main distro :/17:02
fkmdni cannot it wants remove applications17:02
aquilesWith some help offcourse17:02
MonkeyDustshekhar  scroll down http://www.tecmint.com/ubuntu-16-04-installation-guide/17:02
bekksfkmdn: because thos applications require it.17:02
fkmdni need to keep apps, remove openjdk17:02
bekks*those17:02
bekksfkmdn: That will break apps.17:02
fkmdnno17:03
bekksOf course.17:03
fkmdni have normal java17:03
curlyearswhy is that TheMarius?17:03
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bekksfkmdn: openjdk IS normal java.17:03
fkmdnnow i don' t need openjdk17:03
de-factofkmdn why do you want to remove it? if you have apps requiring java you woudl neet do install an alternative to it (you can switch alternatives for java with "sudo update-alternatives --config java")17:04
aquilesI'm able to do everything with my Ubuntu phone17:04
aagam349MSG dholbach Sir,I am getting some ethernet isssues in Ubuntu 16.04 can you help me out17:04
aquilesI want to know if unity 8 will have a option to put the launcher on bottom ?17:05
fkmdnomegat is bitch and use explicitly an openjdk java, not one from alternatives17:05
xanguaaquiles: try asking again in a year17:05
bekks!info omegat17:05
ubottuomegat (source: omegat): Computer Assisted Translation (CAT) tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.0.1+dfsg-4 (xenial), package size 8458 kB, installed size 19705 kB17:05
tambudoing an Ubuntu 16.10 upgrade.. when it asks about replacing configs like say dhcpd.conf  and i pick "Y" for install maintainer version.. I'm assuming my original copy gets moved do dhcpd.conf.old or something right??17:05
tambu*16.04 rather.. coming from 15.1017:06
bekkstambu: No. IT will be replaced. If you want a backup, take a backup - before.17:06
TheMariuscurlyears, it super fast and looks nice17:06
halakar_hey guys.  I slapped up Ubuntu 16.04LTS in a virtual machine under hyper-v.  All is well, but damn - the mouse integration doesn't seem to work.  It's slow and choppy.  Anyone know the fix?17:06
bekkshalakar_: Sounds like a hypev issue.17:07
bekks*hyperv17:07
halakar_i installed the hyper-v daemons or whatever using  apt-get install --install-recommends linux-tools-virtual-lts-xenial linux-cloud-tools-virtual-lts-xenial17:07
curlyearsdagnab it17:07
fkmdnand I don't need useless java1.6 lying around17:07
soilentgreenSo, I had rebooted my system and attempted a clean install. Same problem was in installer disc with my trackpad.17:08
halakar_I also installed the virtual kernel using apt-get install --install-recommends linux-virtual-lts-xenial17:08
soilentgreenHere is my output from xinput.17:08
soilentgreen⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2[master pointer (3)]17:08
soilentgreen⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4[slave pointer (2)]17:08
soilentgreen⎜ ↳ Sunrex/JME Ghost Key Elimiantion Keyboardid=10[slave pointer (2)]17:08
soilentgreen⎜ ↳ ASUS Tech Inc. ASUS HID Device id=12[slave pointer (2)]17:08
soilentgreen⎜ ↳ ASUS Tech Inc. ASUS HID Device id=13[slave pointer (2)]17:08
halakar_but,  uh, how the hell to tell if the damn thing is USING that kernel?  uname-a?17:08
fkmdnis there some package that satisfy java dependency without  files?17:08
bekksfkmdn: No.17:08
aquilesXangua: It will be nice if canonical make it possible to us17:08
fkmdnthen how am I supposed to use the real java in ubuntu?17:09
bekksfkmdn: Use update-alternatives as you have been told already.17:09
xanguafkmdn: follow Oracle's install instructions17:09
curlyearsaquiles: go to www.canonical.com and suggest that17:09
halakar_anyone?17:09
bekksfkmdn: And what is "real java"?17:09
soilentgreenfkmdn: You could download the tarball from the Oracle website, then set your alternatives to point to your version.17:09
aquilesI cant addapt my self to use the launche on left side17:09
halakar_is there a way to tweak the kernel options?  I mean, if I installed the virtual kernel, does it automatically set it or what?17:09
gorgioa17:09
soilentgreenReal Java is from the Oracle website. OpenJDK is the open Java.17:10
fkmdnas I said, omegat doesn't use /usr/bin/java if there is openjdk installed17:10
kiidbrianinteresting17:10
aquilesAnd whatsapp client will be nice too17:10
bekkssoilentgreen: You mean "Oracle Java". OpenJDK is the current reference implementation, so opnejdk is "the real java".17:10
fkmdnhalakar_, there is no virtual kernel17:10
kisbno its called oracle-java not real java17:10
soilentgreenRight, you need to set your alternatives.17:10
halakar_https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn531029.aspx17:10
bekksfkmdn: And if omegat is freaking out, you need to file a bug against omegat.17:10
emitattuoYou asked earlier about other options to Unity:  Some of the main ones are Gnome, KDE, Mate, and Cinnamon, and lighter-weight options like XFCE, LXDE, and many others.17:10
halakar_To install the virtual kernel on 16.04, run the following commands as root (or sudo):17:11
halakar_apt-get install --install-recommends linux-virtual-lts-xenial17:11
soilentgreenAhh.. Ok. So, that's changed. I thought Oracle Java had a lot of the closed source items that OpenJDK did have.17:11
fkmdnalternatives link /usr/bin/java to stuff17:11
kiidbrianTake note of enlightenment too17:11
halakar_Basically I think I  need to install something similar to Integration Services on a windows guest17:11
fkmdnomegat reject that and uses openjdk with the real path17:12
halakar_So uh, is there a way to boot that kernel to see if it helps?17:12
v4rp1ngHi everyone, short question: is it possible to force ext4lazyinit? I know about mkfs.ext4 lazy_itable_init & lazy_journal_init but I had to resize a volumegroup with resize2fs and now lazyinit takes hours to complete.17:12
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halakar_the mouse is really jittery when connected to the VM via hyper-v manager.17:12
fkmdn/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java17:12
soilentgreendo a command.. update-alternatives show java.17:13
emitattuocurlyears, Personally, I can't stand Unity, as I think it is very unintuitive for both new and old users.  I prefer Mate or Cinnamon, or XFCE on a lower-spec machine.17:13
fkmdnsoilentgreen, unknown argument show17:14
aquilesI heard a client. Name is loqui im17:14
soilentgreensorry... update-alternatives --display java17:14
aquilesFor firefox os17:14
soilentgreenI'm thinking an older version.17:14
halakar_anyone got any ideas?  I can't be the only one on Earth running ubuntu in a VM under hyper-v17:14
aquilesIts makes whatsapp work17:14
TheMariusi dont have a particulary low spec machine but mate seems least plagued with bugs quick and responsive and the most usable of them all17:15
fkmdnjava - manual mode the link points at /opt/jre1.8blahblah/java17:15
TheMariusmate has an efficient layout17:15
curlyearswell, I don't think my machine would qualify as "lower-spec" *GRIN*  8 core AMD64 TX @ 3,6Ghz, 24gB RAM, 3.5 TB hdd17:15
de-factofkmdn omegat requires default-jre wich is just fine u guess17:15
MonkeyDusti use mate too, very convenient17:15
curlyearshow do I get mate?~17:15
fkmdnwhat is default-jre?17:15
emitattuocurlyears, Some of the desktop environments emulate or model themselves after Windows or Mac or have a similar efficiency and style, if that's what you're used to and want to use.17:16
TheMariusi have a amd x4 3.2 ghz with 8 gb ram and 6 TB hdd ... not low spec either17:16
de-facto!info default-jre | fkmdn17:16
ubottufkmdn: default-jre (source: java-common (0.56ubuntu2)): Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.8-56ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 0 kB, installed size 6 kB17:16
fkmdncurlyears, install mate-session17:16
soilentgreenIf you want the "easy way", you could always use the webup2date PPA: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java17:16
MonkeyDustcurlyears  sudo apt install mate ... logout, switch, login17:16
lerner.... how do I open a video file with a specific media player (smplayer) from mc?17:16
kisbcurlyears, https://ubuntu-mate.org/17:17
curlyearsemitattuo:  Great Ghu!  Why would I want to emulate a Wibblows environment?17:17
de-factobehind default-jre is openjdk-8 et al which probably is the best choice on xenial anyways17:17
Inocuouscurlyears, I didn't notice any issues with the scrollbar17:17
kisbcurlyears, you can get the iso17:17
halakar_This would probably be why Windows runs the entire world17:17
fkmdni have default-jre installed17:17
halakar_bekks, thanks for your response17:17
curlyearskisb:   from?17:17
bekksfkmdn: openjdk is the default.17:18
fkmdnoh screw that i edited omegat file and put there my path, threw out all f---ed logic17:18
bekksfkmdn: "default-jre" is just a meta package pulling in the openjdk jre.17:18
de-factofkmdn  you can see it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/omegat  http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/default-jre17:18
curlyearswhy does "pastebin sudo apt-get install gnome"  fail?17:18
bekksfkmdn: So file a bug against omegat.17:19
bekkscurlyears: how does it fail?17:19
fkmdnok it's seem to working with oracle java17:19
aagam349how to fix ethernet error in ubutnu 16.04 ??17:19
curlyearsbekks:  says "sudo" is not a command17:19
zykotick9curlyears: try "sudo apt-get install gnome | pastebinit"  or just put pastebinit in your initial command perhaps?17:19
bekkscurlyears: you cannot pastebin like that. you need to run sudo .... | pastebinit17:20
aquilesUnav will have offline maps???17:20
kisbhttps://ubuntu-mate.org/17:20
fkmdncurlyears, don't install "gnome" there's many unneeded stuff there17:21
fkmdngnome-session should be enough17:22
zykotick9curlyears: fyi you can just install "mate-desktop" and try mate out on your current install...17:22
curlyearshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16153409/  < results of sudo apt-get install gnome | pastebinit17:22
aibHi, I downloaded an image (ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso) over Torrent and the checksums are different than those listed on the official website and of the files I downloaded directly. (77bd261ad57b1f045f34ccb6fd6b9c79, md5) What's going on?17:22
bekkscurlyears: So install inkscape.17:22
bekksAfforess: You downloaded a corrupt image.17:22
bekksaib: ^17:23
curlyearsbekks:  what is inkscape?17:23
bekks!info inkscape | curlyears17:23
ubottucurlyears: inkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.91-7ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 12378 kB, installed size 80552 kB17:23
\9curlyears: svg editor17:23
zykotick9curlyears: i'd try installing a LARGE gnome metapackage... ubuntu-gnome-desktop will give you all of it i think17:23
zykotick9s/LARGE/LARGE/17:23
zykotick9ahhh,  LARGER17:23
aibbekks: Isn't the Torrent protocol supposed to guard against that? I got the torrent link through the official website. It had quite many peers, too.17:24
TheMariusubuntu mate even has a good scheduler! wow17:24
curlyearsOK.  wait aminute17:24
TheMariuslacks month though! add that please :D17:24
bekksaib: The torrent protocol cant save you from transmission errors.17:24
fkmdngood scheduler?17:24
nashantHey, I'm trying to ssh in to a new install and it's failing. auth.log says authentication failure and failed password. The password is correct and ssh works fine from localhost17:24
nashantAny ideas?17:24
fkmdnehm it can17:24
bekksTheMarius: Ubuntu Mate uses the same scheduler as the ones ;)17:24
TheMariusfkmdn: scheduler so you can run tasks automatically at spec times17:25
bekks*other ones17:25
TheMariuslinux mints system sucked17:25
TheMariusreason is i had to install a gtk frontend17:25
bekksTheMarius: Mint uses cron as well, as Ubuntu does.17:25
TheMariusyes ... in the background.. with no gtk frontend17:25
TheMariusi went from manjaro to mint to ubuntu mate17:26
TheMariusit became better and better, sort of17:26
bekksTheMarius: No frontend needed, entirely. "crontab" is enough.17:26
TheMariusfor a new user, frontend is def needed17:26
bekksTheMarius: Definitily not.17:26
TheMariusdef yes17:26
bekksA new user doesnt need to alter the crontab, at all.17:26
fkmdnmate has no developers who can handle a big project such as gnome17:27
TheMariusa new user wants to take backup of his documents and photos17:27
warkosignhi, since I upgraded to 16.04 cinnamon panel and menu don't respond to mouse, only to keyboard. Any idea what to check/try ?17:27
emitattuocurlyears, here's an idea of what Mate looks like http://mate-desktop.org/17:27
fkmdni cannot see it being developed in the future17:27
bekksTheMarius: And no crontab is needed for that, for a new user.17:27
TheMariusreally?17:27
TheMariusi mean automatic backups weekly17:27
scurlyear*sigh*17:27
scurlyearhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16153568/17:28
derbinatorHi! I ran the additions .sh and still getting: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/vboxvideo_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/vboxvideo_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)17:28
LazikTheMarius 1, rest 017:28
bekksTheMarius: crontab -l, crontab -e17:28
emitattuofkmdn, it looks like they just had a new release on April 8, this year.17:28
bekksTheMarius: No gtk frontend needed for a oneliner.17:28
scurlyearthat's the result of attempting to install inkscape17:28
TheMariusyes ... but in ubuntu you dont have to sit on google typing this into the terminal.. there you have a frontend doing it for you17:28
nashantHey, I'm trying to ssh in to a new install and it's failing. auth.log says authentication failure and failed password. The password is correct and ssh works fine from localhost17:29
nashantAny ideas?17:29
derbinatorde-facto: :) ?17:29
uRockHow do I install 16.04 without it installing grub?17:29
effectnetwoo!  saturday night!!!17:30
emitattuouRock, you have an alternative boot loader that you use?17:30
uRockemitattuo, I already have 14.04 installed. Looking to install 16.04 in a testing partition. I don't wanna over write the current grub.17:31
TheMariusbekks: linux loonies dont get how much it suck to sit in the termnial and on google searching for getting basic stuff like this to work17:31
effectnetso i look at that xrestop command.  i do see alot of entries that say unknown.  im having that 'maximum number of clients reached' x problem.17:31
TheMariuscron was new to me17:31
fkmdnuRock, install it on the 16.04 partition, then uninstall17:32
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TheMariussame go for getting the printers working.. linux did it automatically... i just had to add.. no install of drivers, editing various files etc like i had to on manjaro17:32
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bekksTheMarius: So you havent found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto17:32
TheMariusi didnt have to17:33
emitattuouRock, what about backing up the current grub config?  Then it wouldn't matter if it was overwritten as you could easily replace it with the backup.17:33
TheMariusits set up for me in ubuntu mate17:33
uRockemitattuo, will give that a go. Thanks17:33
bekksTheMarius: cron is setup in every ubuntu flavor...17:33
TheMariusthats the nice part about ubuntu mate.. software in the welcome screen the same, allthough wish they had a download manager for the software there so you get it into a list17:34
fkmdnscurlyear, where did you get that inkscape from?17:35
scurlyearI missed some stuff, someone came to the door.   Did anyone make any comment about my attempted inkscape install17:35
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halakar_completely worthless if the mouse won't work smoothly under a hyper-v guest17:36
nashantHey, I'm trying to ssh in to a new install and it's failing. auth.log says authentication failure and failed password. The password is correct and ssh works fine from localhost17:36
nashantAny ideas?17:36
halakar_virtualizing the guest under windows server 2012r2 hyper-v with 4 vCPU 4096MB RAM and a fixed-size disk17:36
halakar_need to change the kernel methinks, but no idea how17:36
uRocknashant, did you install openssh-server?17:37
TheMariusnashant: router or firewall issues?17:37
warkosignhihahi, since I upgraded to 16.04 window manager doesn't repsond to mouse, only to keyboard. It doesn't seem to matter which session I'm using. Any ideas ?17:37
scurlyearhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16153568/17:37
nashantuRock, TheMarius: I think I just remembered the problem17:37
nashanta password containing + and #17:38
scurlyear  <--  result of an attempt to install inkscape17:38
fkmdnscurlyear, where did you get that inkscape from?17:38
TheMariusscurlyear, if you had ubuntu mate you'd just click "install" on it from the startup welcome screen17:38
uRocknashant, my passwords contain # and work fine. Not sure if the + would be an issue or not.17:38
yogeshhi guys NEw here!!17:39
bekksscurlyear: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please.17:39
scurlyearfkmdn:  dunno...wherever apt-get looks\17:39
nashantuRock: yeah, that was the problem17:39
yogeshwhat is this CHANNEL about like engineers? or ?17:39
baizonyogesh: read topic please17:40
scurlyearTheMariusL  well, I am trying to install gnome, which failed due to an unresolved dependency on inkscape17:40
yogeshwhere is TOPIC?17:40
bekksscurlyear: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please.17:40
halakar_zero support17:40
fkmdnyogesh, //topic17:40
yogesh/topic17:40
yogesh/topic17:40
yogeshyogesh,//topic17:41
yogeshcant see....17:41
bekksyogesh: only one /17:41
baizonyogesh: http://richard.esplins.org/siwi/2011/07/08/getting-started-freenode-irc/17:41
LazikThis is for unicorn training17:41
yogeshty for help17:41
yogeshbut what is unicorn17:42
yogesh?17:42
vijuj #ubuntu-offtopic17:42
yogeshcan anyone tell what is unicorn?17:42
Guest65196Hello,i'm running Ubuntu 16 LIVE CD with ecryptfs. Everything works fine; however as i would like to do a backup, i'm trying to mount the encrypted home I do have the password and passphrase, i am able to see the .private folders.When i connect the HDD and run the ecryptfs-recover command, i get the following error: INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...find: File system loop detected; `/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl'17:43
Guest65196 is part of the same file system loop as `/sys/kernel/debug'.17:43
Lazikyogesh: it's a beautiful woman that cooks and clean17:43
scurlyeardamn it.  I've run it severall times, bekk, and it keeps telling me I should run apt-get update to correct a range of duplicate files17:43
gpantherhello all17:43
yogeshoh! is it ..?17:43
gpantheranyone else having issues with filing bugs on launchpad?17:43
bekksscurlyear: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please. Finally.17:43
gpantherI tried it multiple times and when I click the final "Submit bug report" nothing happens17:44
scurlyearand i just got prompted for an auto-update, said yes, and it failed "The installation or removal of a package failed"17:44
yogeshhey i having problem too in ubuntu...17:44
gpantherI also checked the developer console in firefox but see no errors there...17:44
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smatic11hello17:44
yogeshMY FLash player not updating how to update????17:44
bekksscurlyear: Ok, so you dont want my help, since you are actively refusing to provide the information requested. Maybe someone else will help you. Good luck.17:44
yogeshhelp plss17:44
yogeshMY FLash player not updating how to update????17:44
dannymichelLinks from outside applications don't open in Chromium. I click them from the application(such as IRC clinet), and it opens a new Chromium window, but does not open the URL. If i repeat the clicking, it will continue opening new blank Chromium windows.17:45
halakar_welp, f this channel17:45
gpantherwhere would I report a bug with launchpad if launchpad is not working? :p17:45
yogeshBEkks: PLZZ (-_-)17:45
scurlyearbekks:  I just started the pasteinit, hang on\17:45
bekksscurlyear: Too late.17:45
bekks!flash | yogesh17:45
ubottuyogesh: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash17:45
scurlyearhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16154233/17:45
fkmdnwhat's with trolls in this channel?17:45
yogeshi have installed latest version but it  still  shows error17:46
yogeshon the browser17:46
scurlyearfkddn:  trolls will troll, regardless of channel17:47
B0g4r7_I don't always install flash player, but when I do I install pepperflashplugin-nonfree17:47
yogeshpepperflashplugin-nonfree " i tried this too17:47
smatic11?17:47
yogeshbut not helping17:47
smatic11?17:47
OerHeksonly on chrome flash works fine17:48
yogeshno i  tried chrome too17:48
OerHekselse question the site you want to watch17:48
yogeshshows update flash player....17:49
emitattuoI just upgraded to 15.04 from 14.10 (x64) and now have an issue starting X.  I have failures during system startup starting Simple Desktop Display Manager and at the end it throws me to a console login.  I can log in OK, but running startx gives me an error: parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/vtty0 (No such file or directory).  Essentially, I'm trying to get X to start on something other than the non-existent vtty0 and instead use the current17:49
emitattuovirtual terminal.  I'm perfectly fine with it booting to console, in fact, I prefer it.17:49
Qaskerchrome has updated flash built-in17:49
bekks!15.04 | emitattuo17:49
ubottuemitattuo: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid17:49
Qaskerif site cant use chrome, its the site17:49
OerHeksfake message, even on windows that button contains malware17:49
compdocbooting to console is fast17:49
emitattuobekks, my mistake.  16.0417:49
scurlyearI am beinbg asked to install flash player as well, but when I click on thebutton that says "install flash" is alwys blows up17:49
bekksemitattuo: you cannot update from 14.10 to 16.04 directly.17:50
yogeshHow to change channel?17:50
squintyyogesh, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html17:50
emitattuobekks: Forgot what year it was, it seems.  Add a year to both of those.  I was using 15.10 and upgraded to 16.0417:50
uRockIf I go to a site and get a popup to install something, then I move on to another site and never look back.17:50
B0g4r7_emitattuo, you just want to boot into console mode always and remove the gui?17:50
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emitattuoB0g4r7_, yes, but I'd also like X to run with I use startx.17:51
emitattuocurrently it does not.17:51
OerHekssudo service lightdm start17:51
bekksemitattuo: Normally, X is started by lightdm.17:51
scurlyearbekks:  any thoughts on the screen shot?\17:51
B0g4r7_mmm, yeah I don't know much about fixing X myself.  Whenever mine breaks I somehow stumble through fixing it and learn nothing about how it works in the process.17:51
bekksscurlyear: I'm out of that issue, as I told you.17:52
scurlyearbekks;  I wasn't ignoring you, honest17:52
OerHeksif you are not sure if you run lightdm, dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'17:52
emitattuobekks, what do you know.  That started X just fine!17:53
emitattuoB0g4r7_, which is why I'm used to apparently very outdated instructions on how to start X.17:53
curlyears*geez*17:54
curlyearsI was being heavily distracted locally17:55
LazikB0g4r7_ : lolol17:55
curlyearsI have to admit, bitchx has an excellent set of logoff messages17:55
XxNemoxXHow do i install ubuntu17:57
yogeshCOLD FEVER17:57
xcellexit17:58
\9!install | XxNemoxX17:58
ubottuXxNemoxX: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate17:58
yogeshI Having "COLD" what do i install???17:58
emitattuoB0g4r7_, so then all I have to do is set it up to boot directly into console without GUI.  I remember doing it in Mandrake years ago, but I'll look into how to do it now.17:59
fkmdnhow can I tell the apt that I have an oracle java installed and that openjdk can go straight to trashcan?17:59
emitattuoyogesh, to join another channel, type /join #channel17:59
fkmdni am not feeling safe about java 1.618:00
yogeshWhich channel is for friendly chat???18:00
B0g4r7_Used to be I'd just change the system to boot into runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5, but I think it's different these days on ubuntu.18:00
k1l_!ot | yogesh18:00
ubottuyogesh: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:00
emitattuoyogesh, one moment.18:00
emitattuoB0g4r7_, exactly what I was thinking.18:01
yogeshB0g4r7_,18:01
B0g4r7_These days I just remove ubuntu-desktop and install ubuntu-server, but then I can't run X at all.18:01
yogeshwhat type to join channel?18:02
LazikB0g4r7_ yep did that too. Did not end well18:02
fkmdnit's weird i was been in that channel before around ubuntu 13.10 and there was much more people and they were actually helping what's happened18:02
k1l_B0g4r7_: the 80s called, they want their runlevels back :)18:02
yogeshtell me command pls18:02
B0g4r7_k1l_, :)18:03
yogeshjoin B0g4r7_18:03
k1l_yogesh: /join #chanelname18:03
emitattuoyogesh, /join #ubuntu-offtopic18:03
yogeshthx dears18:03
fkmdnis there a package for oracle java that provides all needed dependencies?18:03
dreamaddicthey guys...I'd like to make a little shell extension, but I have no idea if it exists (or if there is just another clever command that I don't know about that does what I want)18:03
yogeshlol there is no oneEEEEEEE18:03
yogesh(-_-)18:03
akikemitattuo: i just tested on kubuntu 16.04. stopped sddm and ran startx -> segementation fault. looks like it doesn't work any more18:04
yogeshi am alone...18:04
dreamaddictyogesh: me too18:04
emitattuoyogesh, channelname is just an example of a channel.  #ubuntu-offtopic has people in it.18:04
dreamaddictI'd like, for example, if I am doing "cat <file> | grep <expression", not to have to type the cat command every time18:04
emitattuoyogesh, /join #ubuntu-offtopic18:05
dreamaddictto just type "cat <file>" and make it part of like a context, so that I can just type a bunch of greps and play around with it18:05
zykotick9dreamaddict: ;)  "grep expression file"18:05
dreamaddictno more than that18:05
zykotick9dreamaddict: don't use cat when you don't need to...18:05
dreamaddictok this pipe redirect command line system has me in a knot right now I guess18:05
B0g4r7_fkmdn, to remove openjdk, I'd do something like 'apt remove openjdk-9-jre'18:05
dreamaddictit's new18:05
dreamaddictto me18:05
fkmdnbut it will remove omegat18:06
ioriaakik, doing the same tests with startx and xinit on lubuntu and mini-install with fluxbox ....  the first  not working, the second yes18:06
dreamaddictok but let's say I am doing env | grep <expression>18:06
fkmdnand all other java software18:06
dreamaddictwhat I want is to just open a little window that shows only the output of env18:06
B0g4r7_mmm, well I'd leave it installed then.18:06
dreamaddictand then type expressions in for grep and the window changes, kind of pipe them both together into one piece and have the terminal operate on that piece18:06
dreamaddictuntil I "back out"...I'll code it if it doesn't exist but I suspect it does18:07
fkmdnjava 1.6 is evil18:07
Hydr0p0nXAs someone that makes a living off Java, yes it is18:08
ksftanyone know if there's a way to have a keyboard layout make a single key type multiple characters?18:08
B0g4r7_fkmdn, I guess you could go behind the package manager's back and manually zap all the package's files while letting apt think it's still installed.18:08
B0g4r7_dpkg -L openjdk-9-jre18:08
vijuIs there any advantage to using 64 bit app over 32 bit?18:09
B0g4r7_That's not a nice thing to do.  You might make it angry.18:09
Fuchsksft: technically you could do that with xmodmap, but I discourage it a bit18:09
Fuchsksft: the compose key is probably the better solution here18:09
ksftwhy do you discourage it?18:09
ksftalso, how do you customize the compose key?18:09
B0g4r7_viju, often there is a slight performance advantage.  Sometimes there is a large performance gain or other advantage.18:09
Fuchsor xbindkey or autokey, that also works18:10
ksftlike which keys type which characters with it18:10
Fuchsksft: in the .XCompose file in your home folder18:10
ksftyeah, I was thinking I might have it type an unused unicode character, then have AutoKey or something turn that into multiple characters18:10
dreamaddictis there a non-alphanumeric key on the keyboard that isn't already designated by terminal/linux as a well-recognized command?18:10
jo__hi18:10
jo__ji18:10
effectnetwoo18:11
ksftFuchs: I have tried editing that, but it hasn't changed how the compose key works18:11
emitattuodreamaddict, I guess it would depend on your keyboard.18:11
dreamaddictI guess I have this windows button on my keyboard, that does I-don't-know-what on linux18:11
Fuchsksft: it should. Anyway, you could xbindkey or autokey or xmodmap it, but imo that's dangerous, as various programs might not work as epxected afterwards if you use keys they have bound to something18:11
pauljwdreamaddict, that's the super key, i'd leave it alone18:12
dreamaddictok see that's what I am asking about :)18:12
dreamaddictis there a key that I can "not leave alone"?18:12
dreamaddictor are they allll taken up already?18:12
emitattuoscroll lock?18:12
ksftFuchs: do I need to do something after I change .XCompose?18:13
dreamaddictmaybe18:13
dreamaddictI actually don't see scroll lock on this keyboard18:13
Fuchsksft: I think it should be read automatically18:13
ksftit isn't working18:13
dreamaddictit apparently though, like many new keyboards, defaults to something other than the actual function key for F1-F1218:13
emitattuoIt's on there, maybe as a modified key.18:14
emitattuodreamaddict, that is a very annoying trend.18:14
dreamaddictwhich have these little derpy icons, so what are those keycodes I wonder18:14
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dreamaddictI know, but in this case if Linux doesn't care about derpy icons, then I will jack a few of them for my own purposes18:14
ksftFuchs: I added another line to ~/.XCompose, but it isn't working18:15
Fuchsksft: can I have a look at that file, and what does it (not) do?18:15
emitattuodreamaddict, if those derpy keycodes are read by Linux, then you could certainly assign them.  Though you may want to try and reverse the defaults to F1-F12 and leave the derpy ones as secondary.18:15
ksftI added this to the end:18:15
ksft<Multi_key> <A> <A>                             : "∀"   U220018:15
ksftI can't type the for all symbol18:16
dreamaddictturns out they are already defaulted :)18:16
pauljwdreamaddict, if you go to system setting; keyboard; shortcuts and look for disabled keyboard shortcuts, you might find some you can use.18:17
dreamaddictbut...yeah, there are very particular keycodes for the icons18:17
ksftFuchs: ^18:17
Fuchsksft: that should work, note that the U2200 is optional18:17
Fuchslet me try that18:17
dreamaddictI just used xev right now to look, they have these big symbols and names for some fancy OS where the dude using it doesn't even know or care about it18:17
de-facto!info xdotool | ksft if you want to script keyboard input18:18
ubottuksft if you want to script keyboard input: xdotool (source: xdotool): simulate (generate) X11 keyboard/mouse input events. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.20150503.1-2 (xenial), package size 39 kB, installed size 114 kB18:18
curlyearsOK, well, thanks for all the help, especially to you bekks. SOrry about the confusion18:18
smatic11Live CD method of opening a encrypted home directory?18:19
de-factoksft you also can input unicode with press and hold Ctrl + Shift + u release type the hexcode, press enter18:19
de-factoor space18:19
ksftde-facto: oh, that's useful18:20
ksftI would like to be able to customize the compose key, though18:20
de-factobe carefull compose key might have other functionality which modifying it woudl be shadowed then18:21
Fuchshm, okay, odd. That doesn't work indeed, and no log entries indicating why18:21
BotaniCar_hi, how can i see ATI R9290 temperature readings on ubuntu 16 ? "sensors" didn't detect it, and i use default driver.18:21
ksftde-facto: what other functionality?18:21
emitattuocompose and super are both modifier keys like alt and ctrl, ksft.18:21
de-factodepends on your system18:21
de-factoksft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input18:22
emitattuoThey're not used nearly as much as alt and control, but certainly with inputting unicode and sometimes with certain programs.18:23
emitattuoksft, if you were dead-set on using those keys, then I'd recommend setting it to activate on release instead of key press18:25
B0g4r7_Sometimes to manipulate a gnome panel I have to hold ctrl-alt-shift-super-compose-tab-unicorn18:25
ksftI'm not "dead=set on using those keys"; I just want to know how to customize the compose key.18:25
ksft"dead-set"*18:25
ksftdead-set**18:25
emitattuoksft, I guess the question would be then in what way would you like to modify it?  Does it need to be modified throughout the system, so if you were in the virtual console it would work the same way, only using the graphical inteface, or just within a certain program, or just as needed?18:27
cpinedhello, please help.  After upgrading 14.10 to 15.10 I'm not able to stay logged in I automatically get logged off, but if I enter ctrl+alt+f2 I'm able to login.18:27
ksftemitattuo: I guess it doesn't matter much18:28
emitattuoksft, if you only need it for a specific program, there are simple macro programs/applets that would do he trick.18:30
emitattuoActually, those would work for everything but the console.18:31
emitattuo(and the login screen)18:31
ksftI would like to be able to use it in terminals18:31
ksftmostly for IRC18:31
jo__how we can meet ?18:32
jo__mit18:32
emitattuoIf you're mostly using it for IRC, it might be easiest and cause the least disruption throughout the rest of the system if you used the IRC client's built-in macro function.18:32
hammerhey, i just ran ubuntu 14.04 from a live usb, and i couldnt connect to the wife. why is the mac address different from the one i have one win 10?18:32
hammerwifi*18:33
jo__hów we can mit ?18:33
jo__hogyan talalkozhatunk ?18:33
akik!hu18:34
ubottuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál18:34
hammeranyone?18:35
emitattuohammer, the MAC address shouldn't change, I don't believe.  It wouldn't automatically know the password for the wifi, though.18:35
akikhammer: check out your mac addresses with "ifconfig -a | grep HW"18:35
yogeshanybody tell me Friendly CHat Channel?18:35
jinettehello everyone, is there by any chance someone here from Shuttleworth Foundation?18:36
hammeremitattuo: I ran ifconfig, and it's definitely different than windows 10. It's showing me the wlan0 address18:36
emitattuoyogesh: /join ##socialize18:36
emitattuoyogesh: /join ##chat18:36
hammerany ideas why it would be different?18:37
akikhammer: gather your info from windows and ubuntu and pastebin them18:38
ksftemitattuo: what if I would rather do it through the system?18:38
hammerakik: what kind of info do i need?18:38
emitattuoksft, I'm sure it's possible, but I'm not familiar how.18:38
RoosterDoes anyone know how I can SSH into Ubuntu while I'm away?18:38
emitattuohammer: do you know how to get to a command prompt in windows?18:38
hammeryes18:38
emitattuoget into an administrator command prompt (right click and run as administrator), then type ipconfig /all and look for MAC address.18:39
emitattuo!ssh Rooster18:39
yogeshhow to register your self18:40
emitattuo!ssh18:40
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)18:40
yogeshin channel18:40
akikhammer: get the mac addresses from windows and ubuntu and put them into pastebin18:40
Roosteremitattuo: I wasn't specific, I mean if I wanted to access Ubuntu from my phone (Android)18:40
RoosterAnd I was away from home18:40
de-factoyogesh read this, then ask in #freenode https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration18:41
phgsoutoRooster use juicessh18:41
Rooster#freenode has to authorize voice, which is dumb18:41
emitattuoRooster, the process is similar.  You'd need a SSH client for the phone.18:41
phgsoutois available in play store18:41
nchambersRooster, its not at all18:41
hammerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16155846/18:41
jinetteok solved, thank you :)18:42
RoosterI don't like it being recommended because if I have to wait for voice permission then I'll never get an issue solved.18:42
nchambersRooster, you're always welcome to PM staff18:43
emitattuoyogesh appears to be a beginner.18:43
Roosternchambers: True18:43
hammerakik: i put the paste in the above18:44
akikhammer: you only have one interface (wlan) in your machine?18:44
de-factohammer thats a bit weird, what vendor is your wifi? the win does not appear in databases, the lnx is "epigram, inc."?18:45
mansubwho are you18:45
hammerakik: running ifconfig shows lo and wlan0, thats it18:45
mansubhow to install vlc18:45
akikhammer: try ifconfig -a18:45
emitattuoyogesh: Replace "password" with the password you want to use and replace "youremail@example.com" with your email address.  /msg Nick­Serv REG­IS­TER pass­word youre­mail@ex­am­ple.com18:45
hammerde-facto: my laptop is a dell xps 15 955018:45
emitattuoThen check your email and click the link.18:46
mansubhello18:46
emitattuohello mansub18:46
reisiomansub: it's in the 'universe' repo18:46
reisiohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu18:46
de-factohammer dell uses a load of different hardware vendors afaik even in one product like18:47
mansubi am telling you how to install vlc media player in this os18:47
emitattuoIs the software center still in 16.04?18:47
imryes18:47
reisioit's just called 'software' or something now, though18:48
Guido1I can't acces folders which are on an windows XP home computer.18:48
emitattuothat's nice and confusing.18:48
reisioGuido1: why can't you18:48
de-factohammer you might find out something with    lshw -C network18:48
hammerde-facto: now ubuntu isnt even booting....18:49
Guido1reisio: The message I get is that I'm not autorised.18:49
reisioGuido1: the message you get from what18:49
emitattuode-facto, yes, they use whatever is cheapest at the time.18:49
yogeshh18:49
yogeshhi18:49
Guido1reisio: from Linux using the explorer18:49
jo__j18:49
jo__ji18:49
mansubyiygy18:50
de-factohammer hmm what did you change, what do you mean by not booting? im gonna get afk, brb later18:50
reisioGuido1: you might find the line/s for the FSes in /etc/fstab and comment them out18:50
reisiothen umount them, or reboot; then mount them from the file manager only18:50
hammerde-facto: i didnt change anything. i selected try ubuntu without installing like i did last time, its stuck on the splash screen18:51
hammerde-facto: I've had trouble before, this is actually the first time KVM has worked, but it stopped after a few minutes and i had to restart18:51
Guido1reisio: what are the commands?18:51
mansubhow to make partition in ubuntu 16.0418:51
de-factohammer gonna have to leave for now, i will be back later, maybe some other guys can help18:52
hammerde-facto: ok, thank you for your time18:52
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kareeoleezmy /dev/root       7.2G  7.2G     0 100% / is full and I can't apt-get remove packages, any ideas ?18:53
Guido1reisio: (windows XP can acces the files on the linux laptop.)18:56
BluesKajkareeoleez, sudo apt-autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean18:56
akikkareeoleez: you can drill down to the usage with "du -sk /*" then go from there and see what filled your hd18:56
OerHekssudo apt-get autoremove --purge , to remove old kernels18:56
BluesKajkareeoleezcorrectio: , sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean18:57
Guido1I can't acces folders which are on an windows XP home computer. (windows XP can acces the files on the linux laptop. I also can't print using the printer on the same XP - Need some username and pasword)18:57
InocuousI like that Ubuntu cleans up after itself really well.18:57
hammeranyone have any ideas why windows 10 and ubuntu are showing two different mac addresses?18:58
hammerfuck it, i can't even get the fucking mouse to work for more than 2 minutes18:59
kfahello together there is also a german caht her18:59
kfasorry chat18:59
kareeoleezthank you all, it seems 60MB were freed but the apt-get goes on18:59
Bashing-omkareeoleez: " 0 100% / is ful " There is doubt that the package manager has the operating head room . If 'autoremove' fails there is manual intervention with 'dpkg' that operates at a lower level .18:59
geralt2testing18:59
geralt2\0/ hi guys19:00
Fuchskfa: #ubuntu-de for German support, yes19:00
fortean_dadhammer: just out of interest, how are you running ubuntu? is it a liveusb booted fresh, or other?19:00
Fuchskfa: if you are for looking something else: alis might be able to help,  /msg alis help list19:00
kfathanks19:00
hammerfortean_dad: live usb19:00
yogeshwhat is logg in command for any channel19:00
deniljosephI have xp installed in my pc and i have a partition of 10gb completely free can i install ubuntu in there ??19:00
OerHekshammer, question windows 10, why they change the mac, it can be done software-wise in windows/linux so check their settings, is there a manual mac adress set?19:01
Fuchsyogesh: for your account here?  /msg nickserv help identify19:01
Fuchsyogesh: I recommend you set up SASL though19:01
Bashing-omdeniljoseph: While yes .. a minimum of 30 Gigs is recommended for long term .19:01
jonatandeniljoseph: probubly but you will not have mutch space for programs19:01
akikhammer: do you have a ethernet interface in your machine? it would be interesting to see if that interface's mac address also changes19:01
hammerakik: i do not, just wireless19:01
deniljosephIts k i just want to browse internet thats all19:01
deniljosephNothing much19:02
hammeroerheks: how do i check that?19:02
fortean_dadhammer: odd one isn't it?19:02
deniljosephInternet browsing experience in xp is really weired19:02
hammerfortean_dad: what do you mean?19:02
akikhammer: the fact is that you can change the mac address with software. but i haven't heard why ubuntu would do it19:02
OerHekshammer network settings, try to edit the current19:02
geralt2guys, can anyone please help me? i am on a laptop inspiron 7520, with 2 video cards, tryed to switch to fglrx video drivers from GUI, but they had same problem - didnt worked properly with 2 monitors, they tried to switch to xrog throu GUI again, its ended up with my drivers couldnt load at all =( i am not so good with ubuntu, what should i do? (ubuntu 14.04)19:03
deniljosephSo i have iso of ubuntu 10.4 can some one assist me for getting the task done19:03
Bashing-omdannymichel: Install away ! When you are comfortable with ubuntu .. will have the experience to know what you want to change/expand .19:03
fortean_dadhammer: that 2 OSes show different mac addresses. can't find any info on the windows one, maybe the os is playing around with it?19:04
vamadirProblem with iptables. ubuntu14.04 LTS on virtualbox internal network. Can not open ports. Already maked flush rules iptables -X, -t nat -F, nat -X, mangle -F, mangle -X,-P INPUT ACCEPT, -P FORWARD ACCEPT, -P OUTPUT ACCEPT. Nothing. Just only one listen ssh at netstat19:04
Bashing-om!10.04 | deniljoseph19:05
ubottudeniljoseph: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support ended on April 30 2015. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.19:05
dannymichelexcuse me Bashing-om ?19:05
geralt2so anyone can help me with starting xorg drivers?19:06
deniljosephOoops i don't have a good data plan to download 15 or 1619:06
derbieI've installed the latest vbox and additions. Can't figure out a solution for this error. Anyone familiar please? http://codepad.org/ekUQgSF619:06
Bashing-omdannymichel: Sorry .. slip of the autocomplete .. deniljoseph ^^.19:07
geralt2ok, ill try to do something on my own and will return if will not be able to fix this19:07
geralt2quit19:07
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yogeshi have register my account but cant logged in plases tell me login command19:09
akikhammer: on kubuntu 14.04 network manager there's a place in the connections settings "cloned mac address"19:09
Bashing-omdeniljoseph: The changes from 10.04 to 14.04 are great .. A very high degree of uncertanity that the upgrade would have success .. and a LOT of time and bandwidth involved .. not worth the effort to attempt the release upgrade .19:09
akikhammer: sorry, kubuntu 16.0419:09
marianoI am unable to install thrid party applications like chrome. Can someone help me out?19:10
hammerakik: so my wireless card is supposedly a Dell Wireless 1830, but ubuntu sees it as a BCM4360219:10
akikhammer: i'm pretty sure dell doesn't make their own wireless chips19:11
hammerakik: so the 1830 is what dell calls the BCM43602?19:11
akikhammer: i don't know more than BCM means broadcom19:12
unitypunkhello everyboody19:12
deniljoseph@bashing-om but i cant afford to download the latest one :(19:12
deniljosephBashing-om19:12
unitypunki am having boot trouble19:13
akikhammer: do you need to change the mac address on ubuntu side? did you check your wireless settings for "cloned mac address" ?19:13
Bashing-omdeniljoseph: 10.04 has NO support . To go from 10.04 to current release is 100 times the bandwidth to download 14.04 .19:14
unitypunkmy pc runs windows 10, i unplugged the drive, installed ubuntu on another drive, but now when i plug both in, t boots straight to windows 10, and doesnt give me options to boot to ubuntu19:14
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hammerakik: it's all kind of moot at this point, see as i can't get my keyboard or mouse input to function for more than a few minutes19:14
marianoBy the way, I'm on 16.04.19:14
deniljosephBashing-om actually i already have the iso file with me so downloading 14 again would be a great task for me in my locality19:15
akikhammer: there's a linux kernel parameter called acpi_osi which changes some hardware operations19:15
akikhammer: you could try if changing that parameter makes any change19:16
zykotick9mariano: are you using a 32bit version of ubuntu?  what does "uname -m" return? <- from a terminal19:16
hammerakik: how would i change that param?19:16
marianozykotick9 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:16
yogeshhi pls tell me command to loggin in to any channel?19:16
marianoOh I mean it returns x86-6419:16
akikhammer: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows19:17
marianox86_6419:17
zykotick9mariano: ok, just checking, google dropped 32bit chrome... but that's not your issue.19:17
Bashing-omdeniljoseph: The only best practice advise I can offer is download 14.04 .iso ( older hardware here ) .19:17
akikhammer: then make note of the values (maybe the latest?) and then edit /etc/default/grub and add it there19:17
\9deniljoseph: if you install 10.04, you'll need to upgrade at least two releases up anyway19:18
flickwitwhorehttp://pastebin.com/gRpDddFF19:18
hammerakik: /etc/default/grub being a file path, right?19:18
\9so you'll wind up using up more bandwidth with the updates19:18
\9that is if the upgrades even work since the task is so massive19:18
deniljosephSo you can't help me install 10 in my PC currently? Bashing-om19:18
akikhammer: yes19:18
marianoI also tried installing dropbox from the dropbox website and I couldn't install that either. The software app opens up, but when I click install nothing happens. I just read that it is a bug.19:18
yogesh hi pls tell me command to loggin in to any channel?19:19
\9yogesh: /join #channel19:19
deniljoseph\9 without update i can't even use it?19:19
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\9deniljoseph: you technically can. but it is completely unsupported and your computer is wide open for attack19:19
Inocuousyogesh, /join #Channelname19:19
hammerakik: ok, thanks, i'll try that. i'm like 90% sure the windows 10 mac address is the original one, ubuntu must be changing it for some reason19:19
yogeshnot that to chat19:19
Bashing-omdeniljoseph: While possible .. can you not accept that doing so is not in your best interest ? We do have some experience here . 10.04 has NO support .19:19
\9deniljoseph: 10.04 hasn't seen security updates for the past 3 years19:19
akikhammer: you need to use e.g. sudo nano /etc/default/grub, go to line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add there the following acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"19:19
yogeshto chat into channel19:19
akikhammer: after saving the file you need to run sudo update-grub19:20
\9deniljoseph: using the internet with 10.04 is a recipe for disaster19:20
hammerakik: what does sudo nano do?19:21
akikhammer: it will open the file in an editor as root19:21
deniljoseph\9 all i want is copy files and lill internet and security just forget it i dont mind but could you plz help me set up my pc19:21
\9hammer: sudo runs a command as root. nano is a simple command-line text editor19:21
deniljoseph10.419:21
hammerakik: i see19:21
\9deniljoseph: 10.04 is off topic here19:22
deniljosephOh19:22
\9the keyword here is unsupported19:23
marianoSince I can't install third party apps with the gnome software center is gdebi a safe alternative?19:23
\9and this is the support channel19:23
deniljosephSo no help for me to set it up19:23
\9i'm afraid you either need to get a supported version or you're on your own19:23
derbieI've installed the latest vbox and additions. Can't figure out a solution for this error. Anyone familiar please? http://codepad.org/ekUQgSF619:23
deniljosephMay i know a channel to get help to set up 10.419:23
deniljosephHmm k19:23
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fosselmariano: definitely19:24
\9deniljoseph: any channel here will likely just tell you the same we have been, to get an up to date version19:24
marianoDoes anyone know if they are working on this bug? Sorry I'm relatively new to linux.19:24
bleezyI'm having trouble with ubuntu running really slow and if i open the browser my screen tweaks out and freezes.19:24
Bashing-omdeniljoseph: We will not help you cut your throat . 10.04 is un-supported . take the effort to get 14.04 and then we can/will help .19:24
deniljosephActually can you please try to understand my current situation19:25
\9anyway I got laundry to deal with now, afk19:25
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unitypunkcan anyone lend me a hand with some boot issues? 3 hard drives, all with different operating systems ( wind10, xp and ubuntu)  all three boot fine independantly, but when all are plugged in, it boots straight to win 10 giving me no options.19:25
deniljosephIn my locality the maximum speed that i get is 50-60kbps then how could i download a 1gb file19:25
deniljoseph\919:26
lars22Have somebody streamed development through livecoding.tv?19:26
\9when i had 50-60kbps i downloaded isos overnight19:27
\9anyway really afk now19:27
fosselmariano: i've personally gone back to 14.04 because 16.04 is too buggy. do you have synaptic installed, it works flawlessly unlike gnome software (aka ubuntu software)19:27
unitypunkyup19:27
deniljosephAfk?19:27
unitypunkdo it over night.19:27
marianofossel, I tjust downloaded it. Yea, I got all sorts of problems. Dropbox icon indicator is also not working and my laptop's fan is all over the place lol19:28
fosselmariano: lol my fan was going bezerk all the time!19:29
TheMariusactually my system runs fine now but theres a few crashes19:29
TheMariusi send in bug reports though19:29
marianoI'll try to reinstall 16.04 and see if that fixes things. Otherwise, I'm back to 14.0419:30
TheMariusubuntu mate?19:31
Dannni am having some small issues with 16.04 too19:31
TheMariusubuntu mate runs fairly well maybe try that one19:31
TheMariusno worse than say linux mint19:31
marianoI will, I'm on xubuntu, but I'll give mate a try.19:31
bleezyI'm having trouble with ubuntu running really slow and if i open the browser my screen tweaks out and freezes.19:32
TheMariusumm... yes a bit with the crashes .. but its ok19:32
Evan__How long should Lubuntu install take?19:32
B0g4r7_I still have an 11.04 vm running.  I really need to get it upgraded.19:32
unitypunkcan anyone lend me a hand with some boot issues? 3 hard drives, all with different operating systems ( wind10, xp and ubuntu)  all three boot fine independantly, but when all are plugged in, it boots straight to win 10 giving me no options.19:33
B0g4r7_Evan__, that varies a lot depending on hardware.19:34
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google111hi19:34
B0g4r7_On a fast system with an SSD, installing from fast source media, I could see an install getting done inside of 10 minutes.19:34
google111okay19:35
alkisgunitypunk: most BIOSes have options to select which disk to boot from, select the one with ubuntu when you have all 3 disks connected19:35
unitypunkit took me hours on a 1.8ghz 1gb ram..19:35
Evan__To unitypunk: when you boot your computer, hit f10 or f12, that will get you to your bios. Select your drive there.19:35
unitypunkalkisg, MY BIOS ONLY LETS ME CHOOSE TO BOOT TO "HDD" BUT NOT WHICH HDD :(19:35
unitypunkwhoops sorry.19:35
alkisgunitypunk: did you (1) enter bios with Del, and/or (2) find the f11/f12 boot menu?19:36
B0g4r7_Sounds like some uefi vs legacy boot kinda thing.19:36
unitypunkboth19:36
unitypunkmy boot options with f12 are usb, floppy, hdd, network19:36
Evan__Darn19:36
unitypunkin bios i dont have any way to choose which drive boots.19:37
alkisgunitypunk: can you connect them with different sata order, sata 1/2/3 in the motherboard?19:37
Evan__Go into HDD and find the right HDD19:37
ioriaunusual for an efi bios19:37
unitypunkyes, but then itll only boot to xp or ubuntu19:37
B0g4r7_You may also find that it makes a difference...yeah, what alkisg said.19:37
unitypunkwith no options to get to the other drives.19:37
Bashing-ombleezy: Pops to mind is ram,/swap . How much ram does the box have .. and how much swap ? ' free -m ' to know .19:38
B0g4r7_You need to get grub onto onto one of those MBRs.19:38
alkisgunitypunk: if all else fails, you'll need to boot with live cd and grub-install to all your disk drivers, but leave that one as the last resort19:38
alkisgHaha B0g4r7_ you were faster on that one :)19:38
unitypunkB0g4r7_, it should be on the ubuntu install right?19:38
ioriaunitypunk, a sudo parted -l | pastebinit could help19:38
B0g4r7_unitypunk, should be19:38
unitypunkioria, dos doesnt like it when you tlak dirty like that.. if there is any doss on windows 10 :-p19:39
unitypunkB0g4r7_, hmm ill give that a shot but i have a feeling its just gonna boot to linux with no options for xp or win1019:40
B0g4r7_unitypunk, try holding shift as it boots into ubuntu, see if a grub menu comes up.19:40
ioriaunitypunk, to display linux partitions and infos about them ? don't think so19:40
B0g4r7_(as it begins to boot.  very early in the process.)19:41
unitypunkok boog. bbiab maybe19:41
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Inocuouscatpoop, dude, that's original.19:47
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unitypunkB0g4r7_, well, i hit the bootloader19:57
unitypunkbut it didnt have the two drives for xp and win 1019:57
B0g4r7_There you go.  Now you just gotta configure grub to add them boot options, and maybe to show the boot menu by default.19:58
unitypunkis there a way i can add them from here, or do i need to boot to live usb to add them to the list?19:58
B0g4r7_Should be able to add in this context.19:58
Bashing-omunitypunk: B0g4r7_ While booted into ubuntu - ' sudo update-grub ' to pick up the other installs and chaninload to ubuntu's boot menu ??20:00
B0g4r7_I'm not sure exactly how, but there's config files in /etc/grub, /boot/grub, and in /etc/default/grub*20:01
unitypunkohhh20:01
B0g4r7_What Bashing-om said might do the trick.20:01
unitypunkthanks Bashing-om!20:01
unitypunkFound Windows 10 (loader) on /dev/sdb120:01
unitypunkFound Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sdc20:01
B0g4r7_Sounds promising.20:02
unitypunkvery20:02
Bashing-omunitypunk: Should do the trick , and will not effect the boot code on the other 2 drives .20:02
unitypunkdo i need to edit the grub config manually to add the wait time?20:02
unitypunkor time to select20:02
Bashing-omunitypunk: Maybe ,,, the default is 10 seconds .20:02
unitypunkoh, that works fine.20:02
unitypunkhow about default os to boot?20:03
unitypunkwait20:03
unitypunkthis is too easy20:03
unitypunki can probably just figure that one out with google haha20:03
B0g4r7_;)20:03
Bashing-omunitypunk: " ubuntu, if it is hard - you are doing something wrong " .20:03
unitypunkhaha20:04
recon_lapso, adding propriety nvida driver and intel mini code driver and now can only get black screen on boot or root cmd line :( xubuntu 16.0420:06
luvenfuhello folks! i have a problem with ethernet interface in ubuntu 14.04, that's weird because i had wifi problems instead, but here is the error: http://paste.debian.net/448213/20:06
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unitypunkcrap. how do i know which entry is which20:07
luvenfuunitypunk: ?20:08
Bashing-omrecon_lap: How did you install the Nvidia proprietary driver ?20:09
unitypunktrying to change default boot os in grub, but i dont know which one is 0 and theres 7 entries20:09
unitypunkor 5..20:09
yogeshhi20:09
Bashing-omunitypunk: 0 is the 1st entry .20:09
unitypunkis it just top to bottom 0-920:09
recon_lapBashing-om: using the additional drivers tab in software manager20:09
recon_lapupdate-manager?20:09
unitypunkso i gotta reboot to figure out which one i want to be default.20:10
luvenfueth0 not working after ubuntu update after installation, reporting to ubuntu.20:10
unitypunkehehe20:10
luvenfuversion 14.0420:10
VinceNHey Everyone!  Was hoping someone could help me solve a minor mystery with SSH and KeyPair Authentication20:10
recon_lapBashing-om: in "software and updates"20:10
Bashing-omrecon_lap: Ouch . Additional drivers rarely makes a mistake . what returns - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - to see what the hardware is .20:11
VinceNI used PuttyGen to create a keypair and saved the Public Key to the Server and set Putty to authenticate using the keypair.  When I connect however it says that the server refused the key.  I've doublechecked the guides i'm using and can't seem to figure out what i'm screwing up.20:11
recon_lapBashing-om: still having difficulty getting the system to boot20:13
Bashing-omrecon_lap: On this instance .. try at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console interface .20:14
VinceNany idea's on where to start?  I've made sure the public key is one line.  Putty is using the private key saved from PuttyGen.  I've added the key locations ot the authorized keyfiles option in sshd_config and the permissions seem right to me20:14
tambuUsing Cinnamon, where are the settings to turn the display off after 10 mins? I found some settings in the control panel and set them to 10 min but the screen never turns off the screensaver stays on20:14
yeddersonI don't have boot.log in my logs folder how do I enable boot logging in xubuntu 16.04 ?20:15
recon_laphell, just did look back at the root cmd's and sure as hell looks like someone been through my system from root account.20:16
reisiolooks in what way20:16
recon_lapthere is a 'cat passwd' in my root cmd log. wtf20:17
curlyearsOK..I can't seem to download and install gnome, for some srange reason.  Anyone that can tellme where to find 'mate"?20:18
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: what's wrong with running 'cat passwd'?20:18
reisiocurlyears: why can't you?20:19
reisionot remembering having run such a thing, for starters20:19
curlyearsLambdaComplex:  there is no valid reason for anyone but the system adminstrator to be trying to look at the passwd file20:19
reisiothere a valid reason for the sysadmin to? :p20:20
LambdaComplexcurlyears: absolute statements are generally false, you know20:20
recon_lapBashing-om: think I'm going to have to wipe this system, it auto reboot after a couple of min at root console20:21
curlyearsreisio: it fails on a dependency on something called "inkscape."  When I try to apt-get inkscape, it faisl with erros about many (about 15) failed dendencies from various thiings inluding various .lib files20:21
LambdaComplexcurlyears: and he said "root cmd log," anyways20:21
curlyearsI tried the -f flag on apt-get with no  luck.20:21
LambdaComplexreisio: getting a list of users is a pretty good reason, i'd say20:22
curlyearson a related note, I have ben receiving prompts about availabel system updates, but when I RUN THEM, THEY FAIL.20:22
curlyearsLambdaComplex:  He also says he doesn;t recall issuing those copmmands20:23
LambdaComplexcurlyears: maybe he has sshd running on port 22 with root login via password enabled20:24
* LambdaComplex shrugs20:24
recon_lapthere appears to be a boot script on my system that is reading all my security files and ending with a reboot cmd when i boot to root cmd line recovery mode.20:24
prometHeya, I installed wasteland 2 from gog.com and I seem to get a core dump while it's looking for libs, core dumps at line #94 in the games config file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16158153/20:24
curlyearsagain, there is no valid reason for anyone bu the system, adminstrator to be attempting to view the passwd file.  It suggests someone  is trying to hack the system20:25
reisiowell, not remembering commands in history might anyway20:25
curlyearsof course, if they accessed it as 'root' it would seem they had alreadh successfully hacked the sysem20:25
prometI tried doing a symbolic link from my system lib folder in the game's directory, replacing it's own lib folder. No dice though same error; line #9420:25
LambdaComplexuh, is there even any useful information in passwd as far as hacking is concerned?20:26
LambdaComplexoh wow, now i have the uids and gids of the users. big deal20:26
curlyearsreisio:  woould you like to see pastebins of the attemps?20:26
reisiocurlyears: of the attempts of what?20:27
recon_lapcurlyears: looks very much like something got onto my system anyway, those commands are totally not right.20:27
prometI am on trusty, 64bit, btw...20:27
curlyearsLambdaComplex:  you're missing the point.  Whether they cn successfully glean any useful informatioin from passwd, it stil suggests someone is trying to hack his system20:28
prometalso, nvidia gtx 750 gfx20:28
curlyearsreisio:  trying to install gnome and inkscape20:28
reisiorecon_lap: if you're waiting for someone to say "no, they are fine", don't20:28
reisiocurlyears: oh, sure20:28
recon_laplooks to me like all my security system files have been rifled through, sudoer's ect20:29
curlyearshang on. i'll go generate them20:29
LambdaComplex"doing something that isn't useful at all when trying to hack suggests someone is trying to hack"20:29
LambdaComplexok den20:29
recon_lapit's a script running at boot, so I suspect I just installed it with some software and it's sending the info off to some hacker.20:30
reisiomildly interested in seeing how long recon_lap can keep this exposition up20:30
LambdaComplexreisio: whatcha mean by "exposition?"20:30
LambdaComplexalso shouldn't apt have a way to tell package installed a file?20:30
curlyearshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16158350/  <---gnome attempt20:31
reisiohttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/exposition#Noun20:31
recon_lapbooted to a live usb, where would I find startup scripts20:31
LambdaComplexi'll be surprised if it doesn't, but i don't know the command20:31
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: you said you're on 16.04, right?20:31
recon_lapLambdaComplex: yes. 16.0420:31
LambdaComplexwouldn't that (probably) be a systemd service then?20:31
reisiothat's odd, inkscape is not part of gnome20:31
reisiocurlyears: what version of ubuntu is this?20:31
trismpromet: what's the output for ldd on the 64bit binary?20:32
recon_lapactualy, where would I find the previous root cmd list on the system ?20:32
reisioroot's 'history', root's ~/.bash_history20:32
reisioand sudo might have its own logs20:32
reisiokind of a pointless exercise, though20:32
curlyearshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16158385/  <-- attempt to install inkscape20:33
reisiothe only way this ends in you feel secure about your system again, without reinstalling, is if you realize your memory is /awful/20:33
k1l_curlyears: "apt-cache policy inkscape | nc termbin.com 9999"20:33
reisioyou feeling*20:33
curlyearsreisio:  14.04.4 LTS20:33
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reisio14.04.4 is a version :p20:33
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: so did you actually find the script that's doing this?20:33
curlyearsk1l_:  http://termbin.com/va9t20:34
k1l_curlyears: your 3rd party repo is causing trouble20:35
k1l_curlyears: run "sudo apt install inkscape" to see what the issue with inkscape is20:36
recon_lapLambdaComplex: no, just see the cmd's in the root terminal after a rescue reboot when I tab back, can't really do much as the last cmd is a reboot, which reboots the system after about a min20:36
curlyearsk1l_:  my "3rd part repo?"  I am using apt-get as installed, without anyy chcnages made by me.  what "3rd party repo?"20:36
k1l_curlyears: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"20:36
curlyearsk1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16158385/20:37
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: perhaps `systemctl list-units` would help?20:37
recon_laplet me get networking going on the usb boot, things should go quicker then20:38
curlyearsk1l_: http://termbin.com/r72520:38
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: so i take it you've installed stuff from PPAs?20:38
k1l_curlyears: howly cow20:39
recon_lapLambdaComplex: I'd just installed a game from GOG, think that was it20:39
curlyearsk1l_:  ??20:39
k1l_curlyears: you manually added "http://download.alephobjects.com/ao/aodeb" as 3rd party repo for debian jessy and debian wheezy to your sources.list20:40
mbullingtonHello! I tried upgrading from Ubuntu 16.04 beta to the final version with apt-get dist-upgrade20:40
k1l_curlyears: and that is shipping another inkscape version, that now breaks your ubuntu package system.20:40
curlyearsk1l_:  no, *I* didnd't.  I did try to apt-get a package from alephobjects, though20:41
mbullingtonBut I managed to really break things, dpkg won't install acpid, cups-daemon, or dbus.20:41
mbullingtonNo error or anything, they just indefinitely hang for hours20:41
recon_lapLambdaComplex: Ran the game once and it ran like a dog, so went to try the nvida drivers, then the boot issues. think the driver update not related to boot issues now.20:41
k1l_curlyears: i am pretty sure you added that. or you ran scripts with sudo that added that20:41
curlyearsgreat.  I need the alephobjects stuff to properly control my 3D printer )-:20:41
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: hm, where'd it install to? maybe check there20:41
mbullingtonIs there anyway to fix this? Thanks20:41
k1l_curlyears: dont use their repos that are meant for debian. you dont run a debian, you are aware of that?20:42
curlyearsprobably ran a script that did it. I don't know how to add such things20:42
curlyearsk1l_:  that was the dowload lulzbot offered for ubuntu 1420:42
curlyearsyes, i am awsare i asm runnning ubuntu, but since they recommended that, and ubuntu is defrived from debian, I guessed (apparently incorrectly) that it would be OK )-:20:44
LambdaComplexsomething something frankendebian20:44
recon_lapLambdaComplex: bit of a problem, it installed to my users home folder, which is encrypted.20:44
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: can you decrypt it?20:45
k1l_curlyears: ubuntu and debian share different package versions and form that different depencies. that doesnt work20:45
curlyearsk1l_:  there is a command suggested in their dowload webpage for "trusty debian and ubuntu" which contained several oioed commands.  That insertion must have been among them20:45
LambdaComplex"trusty debian"20:46
LambdaComplexyeah, i don't think that's a thing20:46
recon_lapLambdaComplex: I've got the decryption key around somewhere, but this is new territory for me. so this going to take a while. I think I'll spend the time though as I do want to see wtf happened.20:46
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: you said it's in your user's folder, but those commands were run by root....that sounds odd20:47
curlyearsOK, They changed their webpage sometime in the past 2 days.  Now they have a seperate button just for ubuntu (previously, it ws listed as "if you have debian or ubuntu" trusy copy and paste this command"20:48
curlyearsand it still blows up on install, demanding inkscape.20:49
curlyearsso what is my solution?20:49
recon_lapLambdaComplex: it is, but the cmds I saw I can think of no reason for them to show up other than a hack. till I can get a copy and show everyone I'm working on a lot of conjecture.20:49
k1l_curlyears: i said that already20:50
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: alright, do you have any "server" things running, like sshd or apache? things that could allow a remote attacker to gain entry20:50
curlyearsk1l_  I must have missed it in the scroll, sorry20:50
k1l_curlyears: that crappy debian repos (you added like 10 times for 2 different debian versions) are ruining the package system20:50
curlyearshow do I remove them?20:50
LambdaComplexwith a text editor20:51
curlyearsI ran the attempted install numerous times, not realizing it was corrupting the repo list20:51
k1l_curlyears: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"   go down to that lines, remove all that lines, press ctrl+o, then ctrl+x, then run "sudo apt update"20:51
recon_lapLambdaComplex: yes, several. SQL server, apache. but system should have been fully firewalled.20:51
curlyearsis it safe to manually edit that file?20:52
LambdaComplexyes20:52
k1l_curlyears: you need to do now.20:52
k1l_curlyears: you could ask "is it safe to manually sort the mess you already did"20:52
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: i honestly don't know much about how attacks using those services are performed, but i do know they can be attack vectors, so it's worth looking into20:53
* LambdaComplex likes this k1l_ person20:53
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: do you have sshd running?20:53
recon_lapLambdaComplex: never set it up as far as i know, but maybe something else might have enabled it. I was doing some remote server related stuff recently.20:56
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: `systemctl status sshd`20:56
LambdaComplex(also check sshd.socket)20:56
recon_lapLambdaComplex: I cannot access the system reliably, when I boot to root console it reboot automaticly after 2 min or so.20:57
LambdaComplexrecon_lap: what if you just boot it regularly?20:57
k1l_curlyears: when that is done, run "sudo apt update" to read in the new clean repos. then the install should work.20:57
recon_lapLambdaComplex: black screen20:57
* k1l_ is away now, so ask the channel if something still doesnt work20:58
curlyearsOK...it isnow successfukky busy installing gnome and making it my default file manage.   THATNK you k1b_!!!!21:04
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reisiocurlyears: k, 1, TAB21:07
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vijuWhat do I if I have to get regular updates of oracle Java?21:18
vijudo*21:18
promettrism, high, thanks for the replay, and apologies for the delay; ldd result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16159173/21:19
prometlol, high = "hi"21:19
reisioviju: what makes you think you have to21:19
vijureisio: what do you mean?21:19
vijuThere are regular updates to it. What if I want to have to those updates?21:20
Bray90820Upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 would anything samba related change?21:20
vijuI don't want to use openjdk at the moment21:20
dannymichelI can't delete this trash-1000 folder on my external https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QZMleIuD/21:21
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reisiodannymichel: why not21:22
dannymichelAs the pastebin shows "permission denied21:22
reisioBray90820: yes, but not likely any features21:22
reisioBray90820: or how you use it21:22
lernersound controls just disappeared21:22
lernerhow do I get em back?21:22
lernerneither audio or video are being played...21:23
Bray90820reisio: So I would still have all my shares and stuff setup the same as before I updated?21:23
reisioBray90820: yes, that's all personal configuration in /etc/ and ~/21:23
reisioshould be untouched21:23
reisioif you're incredibly paranoid, just backup /etc/21:23
Bray90820Good because I have a really custom setup to work with time machine on OS X and don't want that to change21:24
reisioand in general, backup things you care about :)21:24
reisioBray90820: you could also boot the 16.04 live image and feed it your configs to see if it works 100% the same21:24
Bray90820reisio: Yea I guess I could21:24
reisioshould just work, though21:25
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trismpromet: looks fine, I'm looking through some threads, seems lots of people are having this issue, if you add the switch: -screen-fullscreen 0  does it start successfully in windowed mode?21:25
reisioconfigs shouldn't be touched; and samba hasn't changed much21:25
RiPerI have a dell inspiron 11 2-in-1, the touchpad is very picky. if i try to move the mouse too early or late, it wont respond and I have to reboot.21:25
reisioRiPer: hrmm?21:26
RiPeri have tried different drivers, but it seems to be buggy at best. any one have any ideas on this one?21:26
RiPerwhen i start (either from sleep or cold), the touchpad requires you to move it at exactly the right time or it doesnt work21:26
Bray90820reisio: Thanks21:28
reisioRiPer: what's xinput --list say about it?21:28
^peter^RiPer  How do you determine, and how did you find the "correct time" ?21:28
dannymichelI can't delete this trash-1000 folder on my external https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QZMleIuD/21:31
trismpromet: most of the stuff I'm seeing is about (lack of) pulseaudio causing the crash, you didn't disable it did you?21:32
reisiodannymichel: why not21:32
dannymichelAs the pastebin shows "permission denied21:32
recon_lapright, so I've managed to get it to stop rebooting and can use root cmd line21:32
riqjhello everyone, I'd like to use wget to download the contents of particular links on a page. how can I figure what extension to use? the links lead to pages that do not end with htm or html21:32
RiPerxinput is SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad, id = 13, slave pointer (2)21:32
filifunkHi all!21:32
RiPerthe correct time was complete trial and error21:32
riqjtheir endings seem like obfuscated mix of letters and numbers21:33
filifunkI have been using ubuntu for a while but still very unskilled.  Could someone help me with a problem I'm having?21:33
reisiodannymichel: unmount it, run file manager as root (gksu/pkexec), mount it, remove as root/with sudo21:33
reisiofilifunk: someone could21:33
riqjfilifunk, if you're kind of beginner, maybe I can.21:33
dannymichelthanks you21:33
filifunkok thanks, and no worries if you can't figure it out.  Appreciate the help!21:33
filifunkso I have been messing around with mysql.  I created some databases.21:34
filifunkI then updated to the newest ubuntu 16.0421:34
filifunknow I can't get to my databases21:34
filifunkI used to log on without a password as root21:35
riqjoh, that's beyond me21:35
filifunkok, no prob21:35
filifunkthanks anyways21:35
filifunk!21:35
reisiofilifunk: why can't you21:35
riqjsure21:35
filifunkit tells me access denied21:36
filifunkI've looked at a few solutions online but can't get them to work for me, or I don't understand how to use the solutions correctly21:36
filifunka lot of them say I should use "sudo service mysql start"21:36
filifunkto maybe just get it going, but then I get this problem21:37
riqjcan anyone give me a hint with my wget question?21:37
filifunk"Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code.  See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details21:37
filifunkwhen i type in mysql -u root I get this error21:38
filifunk"Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'21:39
wafflej0ckfilifunk, did you try running the status command?21:39
filifunkwafflej0ck, no I have not21:39
filifunkhow do I do that?21:39
wafflej0ckfilifunk, just as it says there, systemctl status mysql.service21:39
wafflej0ckfilifunk, it should show active (running) if the mysql daemon is running21:40
wafflej0ckfilifunk, if the service/daemon isn't running then you won't be able to connect and there will be no unix socket21:40
filifunkahh21:41
filifunkso I get this error21:41
filifunkmysql.service - MySQL Community Server21:42
filifunk   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mysql.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)21:42
filifunk   Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2016-04-30 17:41:18 EDT; 77ms ago21:42
filifunk  Process: 10377 ExecStartPost=/usr/share/mysql/mysql-systemd-start post (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)21:42
filifunk  Process: 10376 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)21:42
filifunk  Process: 10372 ExecStartPre=/usr/share/mysql/mysql-systemd-start pre (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)21:42
rpinahi21:43
riqjI presume wget doesnt download https addresses?21:43
filifunkwhoops I tried to paste and I think it got blocked21:44
wafflej0ckfilifunk, you probably want to run the, journalctl -xe, command to see the end of the systemd journal and can try restarting the service with, systemctl restart mysql21:44
wafflej0ckfilifunk, yeah can use paste.ubuntu.com for multi-line21:44
reisioriqj: sure it can21:44
recon_lapso, this is what i found in my root .bash_history http://pastebin.com/MGL6uSeA21:44
filifunkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16159522/plain/21:46
filifunkok, that's what I got.  I will try the journal command21:47
recon_lapsure look like some hack script to me, anyone care to comment on it ? http://pastebin.com/MGL6uSeA21:47
lubanhi everyone, i have a question. when I shut down from lubuntu and turn my laptop back on I get a black screen with fans whirring. i have to power down from the button and then turn it back on again in order to see grub. i'm on windows 7/lubuntu dual boot. any ideas? same thing doesn't happen when I shutdown from windows 721:47
reisioluban: sounds like your suspend/hibernation settings aren't properly configured21:49
reisioluban: check your power manager prefs / try different settings21:49
filifunkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16159562/plain/21:49
filifunkok, so could you walk me through what you look for in these pastes?21:50
lubanthanks reisio i'll have a look21:50
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filifunkfrom the last pace, it seems like this is interesting:  error getting signal strength: no such device.  but that also seems unrelated?21:51
filifunk*paste21:51
wafflej0ckfilifunk, yeah last paste was mostly just other things in the system log didn't look related21:52
wafflej0ckfilifunk, the status one just shows the mysql.service file has a pre-startup script that ran fine but starting the mysqld process itself failed for some reason, but we do want to get at that reason if possible21:53
wafflej0ckfilifunk, try to run, systemctl restart mysql, then immediately do the journalctl -xe, command21:53
wafflej0ckfilifunk, you can also scroll up in the journal but might be hard to find the mysql related parts21:54
filifunkwafflej0ck, so when I type in mysql -u root I get this error " Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'"21:54
filifunkok will try that now21:54
recon_lapLambdaComplex: http://pastebin.com/MGL6uSeA contents of root/.21:54
wafflej0ckfilifunk, yeah don't worry about that part yet, we need the service/daemon running then can see if the client connection is working21:54
recon_lap.bash_history after booting to root console21:55
filifunkjournalctl -xe21:55
filifunkoh sorry, meant to type in terminal21:56
riqjI cant download the links..what can be wrong here: 'wget -A html -m -p -E -k -K -np https://path/to/page' ?21:56
filifunkOk, here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16159678/plain/21:57
reisioriqj: ...what's wget say is wrong?21:57
riqjreisio, it downloads only a single empty page in an 'about' folder21:58
reisioriqj: is it a site you have to log into?21:58
reisionot a trick question21:58
riqjreisio, no, it is a publicly visible page21:59
filifunkThe "Failed to start MySQL Community Server" is in red font fwiw21:59
wafflej0ckfilifunk, never seen this problem in particular but looks like apparmour is stopping the mysql daemon from doing some things will google and see if I can give some things to try21:59
reisioriqj: try with -U ''21:59
reisioriqj: if that doesn't work, try with -U 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/41.0.2228.0 Safari/537.36'21:59
filifunkwafflej0ck, so I had just installed that today because I saw someone else had tried that and it helped21:59
filifunkI have no known use for it, so it can be removed if needed22:00
riqjreisio, adding -U alongside other parameters?22:00
imrektHi there, I'm using Ubuntu Server with XFCE 4.22:00
imrektWhen using the DE over VNC, I get this:22:00
imrekthttp://i.imgur.com/x4apvT2.png22:00
wafflej0ckfilifunk, hmm I think apparmour is included by default which package did you install?22:01
reisioriqj: yes22:01
filifunkwafflej0ck, I don't know I remember I just entered a simple "sudo apt-get apparmor" type entry22:02
stan44i am having an issue with getting a ssh pubkey to work. i've followed the instructions on ubuntu's site as well as https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys--2  and the server will give me permission denied (publickey)22:02
stan44i am running ubuntu version 16.04 lts22:02
stan44the server is also running 16.0422:03
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riqjreisio, what was the last command with browser names for?22:04
piuser8Hi22:04
piuser8Im with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS :D22:05
wafflej0ckfilifunk, okay it should just say nothing was installed if the package was already there but looks like you can modify the apparmor conditions/permissions relatively easily http://askubuntu.com/questions/172030/how-to-allow-bind-in-app-armor22:05
wafflej0ckfilifunk, the particulars of the errors are closer to what's here http://tanghus.net/2012/03/yet-another-mysql-vs-apparmor-barf/ but ultimately seems like mysqld is trying to access some things on the system that apparmor isn't allowing22:05
daxstan44: check that: 1) the server has a directory ~/.ssh 2) that directory has rwx permissions for your user and no permissions for group/other. 3) the directory contains authorized_keys 4) that file has rw permissions for your user and no permissions for group/other 5) that file contains a line starting with a bit that contains rsa or ecdsa or something, then a bunch of nonsense ending in =, then an22:06
daxidentifier for the key (e.g. your local computer name)22:06
reisioriqj: same as the previous22:06
daxstan44: half the time, it's permissions, so (2) or (4), but check it all22:06
wafflej0ckfilifunk, details on AppArmor itself here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/apparmor.html don't think you really want to turn that off though just tweak it to allow mysqld to read what it needs to22:06
riqjreisio, asking because the terminal switched to some kind of editor or program, the line starting with >22:07
filifunkwafflej0ck, so I was looking at that link and was looking for the apparmor in the etc folder, I have two folders for apparmor, is that unusual?  "apparmor" and "apparmor.d"22:07
wafflej0ckfilifunk, yeah not too unusual I'm not very familiar with the details of apparmor itself but lots of services have a .d version of the folder where they break up the config and the main config file typically loads all the .d files22:08
wafflej0ckfilifunk, I have the same here22:09
ouroumovHey, small problem here: I've two machines where "apt-get source <package>" doesn't work anymore, is that a new thing?22:09
ouroumov(On 16.04)22:09
EriC^^ouroumov: deb-src enabled in the sources.list?22:10
Yehaibazhang_ is faggot22:10
daxouroumov: make sure there are deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list corresponding to the repositories you want source packages from. if they're missing, you can copypaste the existing lines and change the deb at the start to deb-src22:10
daxouroumov: then sudo apt-get update, then try source again22:10
ouroumovEriC^^, dax: thanks, I had only the restricted deb-src uncommented for some reason.22:11
effectnetwell i think i found out that this wallpaper app, wally, is causing my 'maximum number of clients reached' xorg problem22:11
filifunkwafflej0ck, ok.  so here is where I really let my noobie-ness shine.  I went to that apparmor guide and I take it I should use the part about re-enabling a disabled profile?  presumably the profile is not allowing mysql to do its thing?22:11
ouroumovEhr, the partner *22:12
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wafflej0ckfilifunk, it's possible but really blind leading the blind on that one, it just appears from the journal log that apparmor is what's blocking mysql from accessing certain resources and it's failing to start, but beyond that your guess is as good as mine22:13
wafflej0ckfilifunk, I have mysql running on 16.04 and upgraded from 14.04 but I didn't run into this particular issue22:13
wafflej0ckfilifunk, I can help to confirm or deny things but apparmor is something I haven't dug into22:13
filifunkOk, well thanks for getting me this far!22:14
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wafflej0ckfilifunk, yup np let me know if there's anything you want me to check or if you manage to get the service itself up and running22:16
fabio_Can someone help me with the software sources to install firefox 31 on ubuntu 16.04? On xenial sources I can find only 45 and 46. Do I need to download old sources and compile myself or there is a workaround?22:16
filifunkwafflej0ck, thanks will try and throw the kitchen sink at this thing haha.  Will keep you updated.22:16
stan44dax, i've used chmod the file contains the keys and file contains proper lines. the server has the directory and the file is in the folder as well with the pubkey still unable too22:19
Geo_hey all has anyone had luck installing Pronterface on ubuntu 16?22:25
stan44dax, i got it working! i had to use ssh -i ~/.ssh/)rsa-id user@address22:25
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stan44dax, is there away to make it where i do not have to type ssh -i ~/.ssh/keyfile user@address ?22:28
daxstan44: rename the keyfile to id_rsa and it'll get picked up automatically, or investigate the IdentityFile option to ~/.ssh/config (see man ssh_config)22:29
Petrushkai'm trying to run a script every day at 17:49 that toggles the wifi22:30
Petrushkai wrote the script and made an entry in crontab22:30
Petrushkathat look like this:22:30
Petrushkahttps://paste.ubuntu.com/16160182/22:31
Petrushkabut it doesn't work22:31
Petrushkaanybody know what i'm doing wrong?22:31
Petrushkaif i run the script from the command line it works22:32
stan44dax, thank you so much you was a big help. added the needed line to my config now i can just login like i should be able too. you just made my life and the others who help manage our community easier. thank you.22:32
daxstan44: :)22:32
Hydr0p0nXcan anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf dvds report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount until I manually mount it22:33
filifunkwafflej0ck, so I from working on this some more, I think my problem is that in var/lib/ there are mysql files there that has all my data but I don't have permission for them.  I am tempted to type in the terminal what is here in this solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/364426/this-location-could-not-be-displayed-you-do-not-the-permissions-necessary-to-vie22:34
stan44well i gotta go. gotta go to other machines and config them to access the server properly and remove password auth. already had multiple attempts from china to get ssh access22:34
filifunkwafflej0ck, would what I type go like this: "chmod /var/lib/myssql read by owner"22:34
InocuousI'm going to be running a php bot locally and creating a database using mysql, is this the right package to install: mysql-client22:35
Petrushkaanybody know the answer to my wifi toggle question?22:36
daxInocuous: if you're running the database locally too, you need mysql-server22:36
Petrushkai can't figure out what i'm doing wrong22:36
daxInocuous: mysql-client is for accessing existing database servers22:37
recon_lapInocuous: think you'll need the sql server to be local, mysql-server22:37
dax(via the command-line)22:37
turinghi guys22:38
recon_lapgtg, g'night22:38
lucas-arghey guys, one litle question, why ubuntu generates so many languages with locale.gen?? i only have es_AR in locale.gen22:38
InocuousOk. thanks.22:38
turingi made a DIY HTML page server.. but it can literally host anything that an apache web server can host22:39
turinghttp://128.199.151.66/22:39
jeremy31Petrushka: have you tried rfkill block wifi && sleep 20 && rfkill unblock wifi22:40
Petrushkajeremy31: the problem doesn't seem to be with the command i'm using to start/stop wifi, it seems to be with getting it to execute from crontab22:40
Hydr0p0nXPetrushka: try redirecting the output to a log file22:41
InocuousIt looks like it's loading all the dependencies automatically. thanks dax22:41
PetrushkaHydr0p0nX: how do i do that?22:42
Hydr0p0nXPetrushka: add something like " >>/var/log/cronrun" after the script name22:43
Hydr0p0nXw/o quotes22:43
vivek__hello all22:43
Petrushkaok, one second22:43
vivek__i am new to xubuntu22:43
filifunkHi everyone, how do I change the permissions so i can view a folder?  I have a folder called /var/lib/mysql that I can't access for some reason.  What should I type in?  "chmod /var/lib/mysql read by owner does not work22:44
vivek__chmod a+rwx /var/lib/mysql22:46
vivek__i hop ei am rgt22:46
theShirbinythat's not a good idea22:46
Hydr0p0nXno, it's not22:46
vivek__oh sorry !22:46
filifunkhmmm22:46
Petrushkai went and looked in /var/run/cronrun and there's no file there22:47
vivek__i thought a means all and the + means to add the permission ?22:47
Hydr0p0nXfilifunk: is the problem that you don't have access or that mysql is failing to start due to lack of permissions ?22:49
theShirbinyfilifunk, it would be easier if you tell us why do you want to change the permissions on the first place22:49
B0g4r7_To list the contents of a directory, +x is required.22:49
filifunkIt is failing to start I believe because I am lacking permissions.  So i figured if I give myself permission I could try and start it again.22:50
theShirbinywhat command are you using and what's the error?22:50
B0g4r7_Often daemons like mysql are run as root.  Maybe you be using sudo.22:50
B0g4r7_Or run as their own user.22:51
theShirbinyB0bsF1sh, you can list the directory with -x, you need +x to cd into the directory22:51
filifunkwell I was talking with wafflej0ck and we determined that apparmor is denying me mysql for some reason22:52
B0g4r7_theShirbiny, for reals?22:52
theShirbinyyes, try it yourself :)22:52
filifunkand through some tinkering around with solutions that I see online, I think not having permission to that folder may be my issue22:52
sony_hi22:53
B0bsF1shWho, waa? Oh woke me up22:53
B0g4r7_theShirbiny, interesting.  I can't view the attributes of any of the contained files, but I can see a list of filenames.22:53
B0bsF1shBut you were talking to B0g4r7_ :)22:53
theShirbinyyes22:54
theShirbinyoh, oops22:54
theShirbinysorry for that22:54
filifunkB0g4r7 when I type mysql -u root I get this error:  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'22:54
theShirbinyfilifunk, is the mysql daemon running?22:54
theShirbinyservice mysql status22:55
filifunkwhen I type in service mysql status I get this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160430/plain/22:56
theShirbinyI can't view that22:56
B0g4r7_filifunk, I can't view your paste.  The site asks me to login.22:56
theShirbinydo you get start/running? or stop/waiting?22:57
filifunkok, well I get mysql.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE22:58
B0g4r7_I'd say the daemon is not running.22:58
filifunkand when I check the journal I get a bunch of apparmor=denied messages22:58
tambuupdated to 16.04 but now my ubuntu desktop is blank just the background.. it "appears" the unity plugin is disabled if I enable through compwiz it comes to life but it's not sticking?22:58
filifunkI mean journalctl -xe22:59
B0g4r7_What is apparmor for?23:00
theShirbinyMAC system, just like SELinux, but I haven't used it before.23:01
reisioB0g4r7_: generic security improvements23:01
reisiosimilar to selinux, I would say, not just like23:01
reisioselinux really needs to be manually configured, IMO23:01
B0g4r7_Sounds distasteful.23:01
B0g4r7_I'd tend to uninstall it if I encountered it.23:01
reisioapparmor?23:02
B0g4r7_and selinux.23:02
reisioyou don't really need either for a desktop23:02
reisiofor a server, there's so much more you'd be configuring, it'd be a drop in the bucket23:02
filifunkI'm not sure, I think it comes with ubuntu23:02
theShirbinyB0g4r7_, so you disable everything in your system you don't know or can't use?23:03
Hydr0p0nXfilifunk: try running sudo aa-complain /usr/sbin/mysqld then starting the service23:03
filifunkI looked at the mysql file in the apparmor folder and it has a destination that I don't have access to: /var/lib/mysql...so I figured if I could get that permission I might be able to move forward23:04
B0g4r7_For a server that needs "security hardening", you're not likely to be running anything very close to vanilla ubuntu.23:05
filifunkI tried that I get sudo: aa-complain: command not found23:05
Hydr0p0nXfilifunk: what does sudo apparmor_status return?23:06
theShirbinyfilifunk,  apt-get install apparmor-utils23:06
theShirbinythen try what Hydr0p0nX said23:06
filifunkI get a bunch of profiles23:06
filifunkone of them being usr/sbin/mysqld23:06
tonioHello23:08
filifunktheShirbiny, ok, I installed that23:08
dramahi23:08
filifunkI just ran aa-complain...23:08
B0g4r7_I think this "bolt-on security" approach like ASLR and whatnot is only OK if it can be done transparently.  The minute it starts to get in the way, it's crap.23:08
filifunkand it worked23:08
tonioanyone got ubuntu with skylake cpu?23:09
B0g4r7_tonio, I wish.23:09
filifunkam now doing service mysql start23:09
theShirbinyB0g4r7_, SELinux gives you exactly what to run when you encounter any issues23:09
theShirbinytonio, me23:09
wafflej0ckfilifunk, just got back and saw your questions see you got some direction here too though23:10
toniotheShirbiny, u got any flickering problem with display?23:10
B0g4r7_theShirbiny, my issue was random kernel panics when under heavy IO load.  Removing selinux entirely (including from the kernel) solved the issue.23:10
wafflej0ckfilifunk, believe with 16.04 you typically want to use systemctl restart mysql, (or start) instead of using the service command23:10
daxwafflej0ck: they do the same thing underneath, shouldn't matter23:10
theShirbinynope, using 4.2.0-35-generic23:11
wafflej0ckdax, ah wasn't sure if the older service command would use the new .service files from systemd23:11
filifunkwafflej0ck, hi!23:11
tonioi use 4.4.0.21-generic23:11
tonioand i have some flickering23:11
theShirbinyB0g4r7_, haven't heard of this one before23:11
filifunkok, I tried both and got "Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code...."23:11
filifunkI will enter journalctl -xe and see what I get23:12
theShirbinysystemctl status -l mysql23:12
B0g4r7_It's old.  I encountered it around 2004.23:12
toniotheShirbiny, did you install any particular driver after Ubuntu install for you CPU?23:13
theShirbiny12 years man23:13
filifunkit certainly looks different.  instead of apparmor=denied that I used to get, I now get apparmor=allowed23:13
filifunkbut obv still not working23:13
theShirbinynope, intel drivers are included in the kernel i believe.23:13
filifunktheShirbiny, I typed that in and still get: mysql.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE23:14
toniotheShirbiny, flickering isn't always there, just when i scroll. I should mention that i installed with nomodese option. But not booting with it, since i install NVIDIA drivers ( laptop has 2 gpu )23:15
B0g4r7_I feel like ubuntu is becoming what drove me away from redhat.23:15
wafflej0ck!pastebinit | filifunk23:15
ubottufilifunk: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com23:15
reisioB0g4r7_: nah, it was always like that :p23:16
B0g4r7_heh23:16
theShirbinytonio, with nomodeset you're not using any hardware driver, you're using software rendering23:16
theShirbinyfilifunk, I had some issues with docker and selinux 3 months ago, but I can remember how I resolved it :(23:18
toniotheShirbiny, ok, nice to know that. As i mentioned i had to use nomodeset in order to install the OS. But when i managed to install the OS and NVIDIA driver, i don't have to boot with nomodeset. But i get that flickering some times.23:18
wafflej0ckfilifunk, you can, sudo apt install pastebinit, then run, systemctl status -l mysql | pastebinit, that will give you a url you can paste here to share what you're seeing more easily23:18
theShirbinyoh, I'm not using the nvidia driver, i'm using the intel one23:19
TheMariusthis is going over all expectations.. ubuntu MATE 16.04 will be my main desktop next 5 years :D23:19
theShirbinyfile a bug maybe?23:19
toniotheShirbiny, ill search a bit more in the web, trying to find something that would make it go away23:20
filifunkwafflej0ck, well that's easier!  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160661/23:20
filifunkwafflej0ck, you can see how things have changed in my journalctl output http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160669/23:21
filifunkI still think if I knew how to change the permissions on var/lib/mysql that may work23:22
theShirbinyif it's an apparmor problem, changing the unix permissions won't help you23:23
eelstrebori'm getting a lot of weak key messages for google chrome under ubuntu 16.04 - they are sha1 hashes - anyone else experiencing this issue?23:24
reisiouse chromium23:24
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filifunkok, well here is another way of looking at the problem, when I enter mysql -u root I get this error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'23:26
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tambuAnyone know why my ubuntu desktop is blank after upgrade to 16.04? I think the unity plugin isn't starting correctly if I enable by ccsm it appears to start up23:27
filifunkso through going through some solutions online I went to my.cnf and am supposed to see some socket there.  There was none.23:27
theShirbinyfilifunk, mysql is not running, that's the problem. you can't connect to it if it's not running23:27
Hydr0p0nXfilifunk: you can't connect to a port if it's not listeing, that's more a symptom than problem23:27
filifunkok, makes sense23:28
wafflej0ckfilifunk, yeah once the service is running it can either use a unix socket "file" or a TCP connection23:29
theShirbinyfilifunk, this might seem stupid an random but can you reboot your system and try starting the service again?23:29
wafflej0ckfilifunk, I don't see anything in the log now that's standing out though23:29
wafflej0ckfilifunk, can try checking in /var/log/mysql to see if there's anything extra in there23:29
filifunktheShirbiny, not stupid or random...nothing is at this point haha.  But I have tried that many times and haven't seen any success23:30
kevin123are you sure mysql is running?23:31
wafflej0ckfilifunk, are you concerned with preserving the data you've worked on so far?23:31
wafflej0ckkevin123, no that's the problem23:31
wafflej0ckkevin123, it's not running23:31
filifunkwafflej0ck, yes, unfortunately23:31
promettrism, if you replied it scrolled off, I've increased my scrolled lines if you did reply and could repeat ;), apologies; cooking =D23:31
theShirbinyno, i mean now23:31
wafflej0ckfilifunk, okay you may want to make a copy of the data somewhere but you can typically safely reinstall packages without it touching the config or data23:31
wafflej0ckfilifunk, but doesn't hurt to have a copy23:32
kevin123filifunk> did you change the mysql.cnf file ? when you change the innodb buffer pool size, mysql won't start until you remove the 2 files23:32
filifunkok, but I think I don't have permission to copy that data23:32
filifunkkevin123, I did change them by copying what a solution online said needs to be there, a socket and some other line23:33
filifunki will check23:33
wafflej0ckfilifunk, you can use sudo to do some process as root so long as you have your password and your account has sudoers permission23:33
kevin123filifunk> you should turn on the mysql error log in my.cnf and check what it says23:33
filifunkI just realized that I don't have access to my root folder on nautilus23:34
filifunkreally noobness here - but when I want to make a copy, I opened up nautilus and tried to copy the mysql files and paste it onto my other hard drive and it won't let me because I don't have permissions to read it.  How do I do this as sudo?23:37
Hydr0p0nXsudo cp /path/to/src /path/to/destination23:38
Hydr0p0nXcp -R to copy recursively23:38
filifunkah ok23:38
wafflej0ckfilifunk, you typically just want to do it at the command line or at least be very careful if you're running nautilus as root/admin since you can destroy your system or accidentally save files as root and then your regular user account (or processes launched by it) can't read them23:38
wafflej0ckfilifunk, what Hydr0p0nX wrote is typical way to go23:39
wafflej0ckfilifunk, what kevin123 suggested to modify my.cnf to make sure the logs are on and see where they're at is a good call too, best to see what the actual error is before trying anything else23:40
theShirbinythe process is getting killed by apparmor, it's an apparmor configuration issue, not mysql23:41
wafflej0cktheShirbiny, you still see something about apparmor blocking it in the new logs? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160669/23:44
filifunkwhew, sorry took a while, had to do that copying for the first time via terminal.  Did it! haha23:45
filifunkwafflej0ck and kevin123 ok, I will try to put some sort of log in there23:45
theShirbinywafflej0ck, ah, nope, maybe check mysql error_log23:46
filifunkmy mysql error log has this stuff http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160918/plain/23:47
theShirbinyagain, we can't see the logs23:48
filifunkwait is what is in that error.log the same thing as putting in an error log in my.cnf?23:48
wafflej0ckfilifunk, ah okay see in there it says run mysql_upgrade it needs some new tables23:48
theShirbinyI'm getting Invalid OpenID transaction :(23:48
wafflej0cktheShirbiny, ah I signed in there and it let me in23:48
wafflej0ckdunno :shrugs:23:48
filifunkoh so I should upgrade mysql?23:49
Hydr0p0nXtheShirbiny: just drop the /plain/ off the end23:49
Hydr0p0nXfilifunk: just run mysql_upgrade23:49
filifunkmysql_upgrade: Got error: 2013: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 104 while connecting to the MySQL server Upgrade process encountered error and will not continue.23:50
filifunkle sigh23:50
theShirbinyhuh, ubuntu one is still around?23:50
starcrasherHi! I'm looking for an easy way encrypt a large number of files on an NTFS filesystem(all of my document storage is on NTFS for dual boot compatibility) and be able to decrypt them inside an ubuntu virtualbox VM which reads them from a VB shared folder.  The tricky part is that I want to be able to sync them with rsync on the host machine without decrypting them, so a LUKS file container is not a viable option.  I'm looking into ecryptfs, but my first at23:50
starcrasherIt's important to note that the host machine will never decrypt the files, but two different virtual machines on separate hosts must be able to open them in the same manner with the same password.23:53
\9starcrasher: your first message was too long and was cut short23:53
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\9"I'm looking into ecryptfs, but my first at"23:53
starcrasherI'm looking into ecryptfs, but my first attempt by moving the encrypted home directory into the shared folder and adding it to fstab failed(probably because some of the encrypted filenames were too long for NTFS). Is there any way around this? Will I encounter other problems if I do work around that? Is there a better way to accomplish my task?23:54
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Hydr0p0nXfilifunk - see if you can run /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=mysql &23:54
Hydr0p0nXthen run mysql_upgrade23:54
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filifunkI did that and got this still: mysql_upgrade: Got error: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) while connecting to the MySQL server Upgrade process encountered error and will not continue.[1]+  Exit 1                  /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=mysql23:55
Hydr0p0nXfilifunk: did you include sudo when running mysqld ?23:56
Hydr0p0nXyou may need to include it for the mysql_upgrade script too, not sure23:57
filifunkHydr0p0nx no, but I just tried those two things again with sudo and same errors23:58
Hydr0p0nXwhat's the mysql err log show ?23:58
filifunkI tried to start mysql with sudo too23:58
filifunkok, will paste it23:59
filifunkit says run mysql_upgrade23:59

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