[00:00] <OerHeks> ksft, did you try logout/login again or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data ?? >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions?action=show&redirect=Howto%3A+Custom+keyboard+layout+definitions#How_to_load_changes
[00:00] <lynx> .net
[00:01] <ksft> OerHeks: I tried restarting
[00:02] <ksft> OerHeks: just ran `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data1
[00:02] <ksft> `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data`*
[00:02] <ksft> no output
[00:02] <ksft> still not working
[00:06] <derbie> Anyone familiar with libGL error: failed to open drm device: No such file or directory libGL error: failed to load driver: vboxvideo
[00:24] <de-facto> derbie usually VirtualBox ships with a guest additions iso (must be the correct version), you mount that as a cd in your virtual machine (e.g. ubuntu.iso pri master, guest-additions.iso pri slave), boot, mount that and sudo ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.sh (or such) to compile the guest additions. then you can "lsmod | grep vbox" and "modinfo vboxvideo". if everything went smooth you can set a "passwd", log out of your live session, log in again (with
[00:24] <de-facto> your password) and are all set
[00:24] <jinjonboo> hey guys, anybody here can give me a tip in ripping audio CD's using LAME? need VBR presets etc, thx
[00:25] <scrollbar> hello, how do you increase the width of the gnome scrollbars in 16.04
[00:25] <scrollbar> i upgraded from 14.04 using overlay scrollbars which i preferred
[00:26] <scrollbar> all documentation i can find is for outdated ubuntu releases
[00:26] <de-facto> !info abcde | jinjonboo
[00:26] <derbie> de-facto: thank you
[00:27] <de-facto> derbie there is also #vbox on freenode :)
[00:27] <jinjonboo> thanks de-facto and ubottu :)
[00:29] <goddard> hi everyone
[00:44] <phc> hey hey
[00:50] <andril> hey phc
[01:03] <Hydr0p0nX> can anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf blurays report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount
[01:15] <hfp> Hi all, I have a machine with two drives. One is for the OS and one is for storage. I guess I forgot about an old install or something but both drives have a bootable OS and partition. I updated the kernel and it added entries for both OSes on GRUB. Both OSes are Debian. How can I safely delete the system I dont use and reclaim the space on the storage drive? I'd rather not lose the data on the storage drive
[01:15] <hfp> (I dont care about the OS on that drive though). Can I just delete the partition as I would any other one? How do I know which partition has GRUB installed?
[01:16] <bazhang> hfp, is ubuntu in there somewhere
[01:17] <fishbowlkraken__> hey, I'm getting some stuttering and other problems with audio after upgrading to Xenial.
[01:18] <fishbowlkraken__> I know I'd fixed it somehow in Wily, but I can't for the life of me remember how.
[01:18] <fishbowlkraken__> I have that weird AMD Azalia card that causes so many problems
[01:18] <bazhang> fishbowlkraken__, in which instances, youtube, rhythmbox or what
[01:18] <fishbowlkraken__> yes.
[01:19] <fishbowlkraken__> I've tried Banshee, Youtube, even system sounds from time to time
[01:19] <bazhang> that was multiple choice
[01:19] <fishbowlkraken__> yes it was, and I chose "all of the above"
[01:19] <bazhang> what is PCM set to in alsamixer
[01:20] <fishbowlkraken__> ooh, hey, in alsamixer it's showing something interesting.
[01:20] <bazhang> and how have you set things in pavucontrol and padevchooser
[01:20] <fishbowlkraken__> ooh, okay, that's a cool part.
[01:21] <fishbowlkraken__> and by cool I mean "ridiculous"
[01:21] <fishbowlkraken__> so if you have it set to be analog stereo output, which is what it is
[01:21] <hfp> bazhang: Ha sorry, I thought I was on #debian not #ubuntu... My bad
[01:21] <fishbowlkraken__> it randomly switches back and forth rapidly from headphone to line out settings
[01:21] <fishbowlkraken__> and an additional stutter is added as it switches back and forth
[01:22] <fishbowlkraken__> despite the fact that the only audio device present is a single 3.5mm jack
[01:22] <bazhang> fishbowlkraken__, its nigh impossible to get your full output with so much enter
[01:24] <fishbowlkraken__> Right. Sorry, I've been using phone chat clients for too long. Lemme just go for all of it at once. Okay, If you have it set to analog stereo sound, it flips back and forth from headphone to line out settings. Despite there being only one audio out, totally static, the whole time. It's running through a jack that plugs into my keyboard, allowing my headphones to plug into that, but I tried plugging the headphones in di
[01:24] <fishbowlkraken__> rectly and the problem persists.
[01:24] <precise_> Hey guys, any idea why my 14.04 install USB will only boot in UEFI mode, I have would like to use the legacy option. Then when I boot into UEFI mode to install, I get to GRUB, I select the install option, then I get a blank screen. Any ideas why? I don't know what is going on because I have installed ubuntu on this laptop before.
[01:28] <fishbowlkraken__> It also has the occasional crackling and popping, which I'd had issues with before as well, and somehow I fixed them before. I've tried setting tsched = 0 in the pulse config, which apparently fixes some of this for some people, but to no avail. The other workaround is to set it to analog 4.0 sound, which used to work at the expense of some bass being lost, but that's not working now either for some reason
[01:28] <Qasker-> question: why were the bans and quiets removed for the spammers?
[01:28] <Qasker-> after they left, all ranges were removed
[01:28] <Qasker-> free to spam again
[01:31] <Qasker-> whomever controls  Drone` screwed up and removed spammer ranges
[01:32] <harts> I have two VMs, and I'm trying to use one (which is running dnsmasq) as a dns server for the other. On the dns client VM, if I `dig some_domain @$OTHER_VM` it just hangs, but my networking settings allow this. I believe I need to modify my dnsmasq.conf to allow it to serve requests from the other VM, but does anyone know what?
[01:32] <Qasker-> ffs the list is infinite, no need to remove. its a database
[01:32] <fishbowlkraken__> I really wish I had the ability to just kill pulse and use ALSA. Why did we need Pulse, again?
[01:33] <Qasker-> bc alsa does not allow the same granular control
[01:35] <fishbowlkraken__> like what?
[01:35] <fishbowlkraken__> I mean, what do I really miss by just having ALSA?
[01:36] <Qasker> i may be totally wrong, and since no one is manning up to admit they fucked up removing ranges, it is unlikely someone will manup to correct me
[01:36] <Qasker> the driver is different
[01:36] <fishbowlkraken__> why can't Pulse be optional for people that do want those features, or at least something you can remove without having to dismantle your whole OS
[01:36] <Qasker> with pulse you can adjust volume of each speaker in the set. ALSA not possible
[01:37] <fishbowlkraken__> Alsamixer lets me do that, though.
[01:37] <Qasker> alsamixer does not, for me
[01:37] <Qasker> i need to use Pulse Audio mixer
[01:37] <Qasker> which is sep install, not default ubuntu
[01:38] <fishbowlkraken__> http://i.imgur.com/tkCXL2O.png
[01:38] <fishbowlkraken__> pavucontrol is part of Ubuntu
[01:38] <fishbowlkraken__> but there's Alsa, letting me mess with whatever speakers I want
[01:38] <fishbowlkraken__> But anyway, bazhang, you still here?
[01:39] <Qasker> that looked like command line
[01:39] <Qasker> pulse audio control
[01:39] <Qasker> its a separate program from software center
[01:39] <Qasker> not default on any flavor
[01:40] <fishbowlkraken__> oh, yeah iunno what that is. But why is that a super important feature?
[01:40] <Qasker> ...unless 16.04 added it default, which is unlikely
[01:40] <Qasker> I use it for granular control of my sound system
[01:40] <Qasker> i dont have such a tool with ALSA
[01:40] <Qasker> afaik
[01:41] <Qasker> bass, treble, independant speaker control, independant program control
[01:41] <Qasker> like i can make chromes default volume lower than my system volume
[01:41] <grizzlymobile> I love Ubuntu 16.04 sooooo awesome!!!!
[01:42] <Qasker> nice grizz. wlecome to the fam
[01:42] <chinesesausage> prefer Peach OSI myself
[01:42] <chinesesausage> based on Ubuntu
[01:42] <grizzlymobile> Elementary IO is a good one too
[01:42] <fishbowlkraken__> Pretty sure Chrome has its own volume controls that can be used by it, but whatever. Anyway, is there anyway I could disable Pulse without just destroying my OS?
[01:42] <AndyWojo> is there a repo for openstack and 16.04 yet???
[01:42] <Qasker> lol, you like the "popular" stuff
[01:42] <grizzlymobile> Not  fan of chrome. privacytools.io
[01:43] <fishbowlkraken__> because I don't care about precise bass, I care about it not popping and being a turd.
[01:43] <grizzlymobile> haah @fiskbowlkraken__
[01:43] <Qasker> i dont have an answer for you clambakeinacar
[01:43] <fishbowlkraken__> ???
[01:43] <Qasker> besides pulse is better than alsa
[01:44] <fishbowlkraken__> that's great that you think that
[01:44] <Qasker> fishbowl = clam bake in a car with all windows closed
[01:44] <fishbowlkraken__> but it's causing my sound card to be a crackly, popping mess.
[01:44] <Qasker> grizzlymobile that is great site
[01:44] <grizzlymobile> @Qasker thanks.. Yeah I'm huge into privacy.
[01:44] <grizzlymobile> I like that Ubuntu decided to have a Security distro.
[01:45] <Qasker> hmm. crackle, pop, and hiss. check grounding
[01:45] <fishbowlkraken__> I'm glad that you like all the special minutiae Pulse has to offer, but I'm not a fan. And again, It's only happening when Pulse is running.
[01:45] <fishbowlkraken__> Dude, this is a documented bug.
[01:45] <Qasker> besides that i dont have an answer. maybe someone is here does or maybe there is a specialized place with answers, like a pulse or alsa channel
[01:45] <fishbowlkraken__> Popping and crackling from pulse on certain soundcards, not related to electrical interference.
[01:46] <Qasker> oh its only certain cards?
[01:46] <Qasker> thats a driver issue
[01:46] <Qasker> unless the cards are made shitty, which is unlikely in major market cards
[01:48] <Qasker> back in the day when i started w linux, the response was "go write your own driver" which was a really crappy response for a kid to hear
[01:48] <Qasker> slackware 3.2 i think
[01:49] <fishbowlkraken__> It's an AMD card, and there are workarounds, but I've been trying them and they haven't been working
[01:49] <fishbowlkraken__> When I started out that was what I was told in regards to WLAN drivers, in 07
[01:50] <Qasker> haha. that was true back then. even if they were written it was mostly source you had to compile on your own
[01:51] <fishbowlkraken__> I had a shortcut to a shell script on the desktop I'd run to recompile it every time I rebooted
[01:52] <fishbowlkraken__> and lucky me, I had an atheros card. in 07/8, those were just greaaaaaaat
[01:52] <Qasker> shouldnt need to re-compile each time, just once
[01:52] <Qasker> oh those were the cats ass back then
[01:53] <fishbowlkraken__> sorry. every time I rebooted after a kernel update
[01:53] <fishbowlkraken__> then I'd reboot again
[01:53] <Qasker> kinda like orninoco chipset cards back in 04-05
[01:55] <DHowett> if i'm moving between LTS releases, is it better to go step-by-step (12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04) or is it safe to do all four years at once (12.04 -> 16.04)
[01:55] <Qasker> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORiNOCO
[01:55] <Qasker> DHowett, other may have different opinion, but i would do a fresh install, after backup of data
[01:55] <DHowett> Qasker: yeah, you're not wrong ;)
[01:56] <DHowett> Qasker: my eventual goal is to completely repave the machine and part it out into smaller VMs
[01:56] <DHowett> it's a kitchen sink machine right now, and it's providing too many disparate services
[01:56] <Qasker> then you are best starting "fresh"
[01:56] <fishbowlkraken__> heh
[01:57] <fishbowlkraken__> okay, my lights flickered, so I'mma disconnect, because I have a bad feeling in regards to my power's stability
[01:58] <Qasker> still waiting for Drone` owner or person responsible for removing spammer ranges to explain why they un-did the work to prevent spammers
[01:59] <Qasker> this is #ubuntu, one of the largest channels here, PLEASE, tell me the ops here know how to use the network
[01:59] <imthenachoman> hey guys. i have a i5 system with 16 gb of ddr4 ram and a 128 m2 ssd with 2 tb hd for storage. gonna be used as a file server (with owncloud). any benefit to having 16 gb swap or is 8 gb enough?
[01:59] <yoelis> hi everybody
[01:59] <Qasker> bc that removing ranges was bullshit. they never should have been added. use akick
[01:59] <Qasker> what size files will it be serving?
[02:00] <Qasker> imthenachoman: what size files will it be serving?
[02:00] <imthenachoman> music, pictures, maybe some 8 gb hd movies
[02:00] <imthenachoman> Qasker: music, pictures, data files, maybe some 8 gb hd movies.
[02:00] <Qasker> swap should be larger than the largest file you intend to write to it
[02:01] <yoelis> double of your ram memory
[02:01] <imthenachoman> screw it, i have enough space. i'll leave it at 16
[02:01] <imthenachoman> the default ubuntu sued
[02:01] <imthenachoman> used
[02:01] <Qasker> yoelis when we have 32gb ram, a 64gb swap is not necessary
[02:01] <Qasker> those are old rules
[02:01] <DHowett> very old, i reckon
[02:02] <yoelis> ha ok thanks
[02:03] <Qasker> imthenachoman 16 won't "hurt" you, unless you need the space for something else. prob wise to leave plenty of spwap space
[02:03] <Qasker> although with 32gb ram, the times you will write something to swap will be rare
[02:03] <imthenachoman> Qasker: i only have 16 gb ram
[02:04] <yoelis> but normally when do you install ubuntu that do the swap partition
[02:04] <yoelis> or manually
[02:04] <Qasker> make sure you optimize the ssd, turn off swapiness, use the parameters in fstab, etc
[02:04] <imthenachoman> yeah. i need to see how to do that. not sure how
[02:05] <Qasker> yoelis i think default is now 1.5x ram size. not sure if it adjusts for high ram amounts
[02:05] <imthenachoman> i think there are articles online but i'll have to find em. if you have any good tutorials on it i'm all years
[02:05] <dax> haven't bothered with swap since the 4GB days. if something's using 4GB of RAM, the OOM killer is quite welcome to have its way with it
[02:05] <DHowett> dax++
[02:05] <yoelis> ha ok thanks
[02:05] <dax> different story if you need hibernate, but I don't and fileservers don't
[02:05] <imthenachoman> dax: agreed
[02:06] <imthenachoman> eh. my main OS is on a 128 gb SSD which will ONLY have the OS on it. 2 TB for everything else
[02:06] <imthenachoman> the few apps i'll install wont take space like owncloud
[02:06] <Qasker> https://www.leaseweb.com/labs/2013/07/5-crucial-optimizations-for-ssd-usage-in-ubuntu-linux/
[02:06] <Qasker> https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization
[02:06] <Qasker> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/solid-state-drives-get-one-already
[02:06] <Qasker> love the journal
[02:07] <gbell> Anybody else had a Win10 upgrade kill of their linux partitions?
[02:07] <Qasker> gbell isnt that expected?
[02:08] <gbell> Win7 and before never did.
[02:08] <Qasker> sure they do. they overwrite MBR
[02:08] <DHowett> Qasker: i've never seen that
[02:08] <Qasker> they dont kill the linux system, just remove access to it
[02:08] <DHowett> in attended setup they only touch the partitions you specify
[02:08] <DHowett> and stomp the bootloader
[02:08] <DHowett> but with UEFI, you're generally safe
[02:08] <gbell> Naw, they just changed the boot loader, not the MBR.  I got complacent and didn't read up.  "That hasn't happened in 15 years" thought brain.  Luckily it was just my laptop.
[02:09] <yoelis> where i can fine medical applications
[02:10] <yoelis> i am physical therapist and i need that in linux
[02:11] <Qasker> yeah MBR on old versions, UEFI on newer versions. doesn't matter, winblows overwrites. best to install or upgrade winblows, then fix wioth linux
[02:11] <gbell> It didn't used to kill other partitions, is what I'm saying.  Win10 does.
[02:11] <Qasker> yoelis looking for practice management along with HIPPA-compliant "notes" system
[02:12] <pringles5> I put my Ubuntu on an external hard drive to avoid all that
[02:12] <reisio> HIPAA* :)
[02:12] <akik> gbell: have you checked in a live session that the linux partition is gone?
[02:12] <gbell> yes.
[02:12] <Qasker> oh, i just assumed all windows kill eveything. that has always been my assumption and it has not been wrong yet. winblows sucks. we cant expect it to keep our data or other OS' safe
[02:12] <akik> damn
[02:13] <Qasker> HITECH is more precise
[02:13] <Qasker> ive read both laws
[02:13] <gbell> And this was on an upgrade.  There was already an NTFS partition for it to use...
[02:13] <DHowett> I can't say I agree, having spent a lot of time happily using both platforms. It's got its place, and its benefits, and while it was heavyhanded before it seems to take a more genial approach now
[02:13] <pringles5> Microsoft has been very aggressive about forcing people to upgrade to Win 10 so it doesn't surprise me to hear that it might wipe other OS partitions
[02:13] <DHowett> gbell: was it an automatic upgrade from 7?
[02:14] <DHowett> it just reallocated the full space ( - ~400MB ) for itself?
[02:14] <gbell> @DHowett yep to both.
[02:14] <DHowett> interesting
[02:15] <gbell> And making a backup of the partition table doesn't help if WIn10 overwrites the table and then writes to a new whole-disk partition.
[02:16] <DHowett> right. that sucks
[02:16] <DHowett> i can't speak for the automatic upgrade process, but i've never seen it do that in manual installs
[02:17] <gbell> Same.
[02:17] <DHowett> sorry man
[02:17] <gbell> This guy seems to think that, even if it wipes the partition table, it somehow won't write to the parts of the disk the old partitions referred to. http://askubuntu.com/a/662714/300685
[02:18] <gbell> @DHowett : Thanks, but it was a lightly used laptop.  Just trying to figure out how to upgrade my main machine's Win7 partition without killing my daily workhorse linux partitions.  Don't really like having to buy a new disk every upgrade!
[02:20] <DHowett> gbell: might be worth it to back up the main and then try a manual win10 upgrade now that you have a safety net
[02:21] <gbell> Yeah.  I never like to have to rely on my backups like that.  Ah well, new drive not that expensive.
[02:21] <gbell> Wait, one's an SSD!
[02:25] <Qasker> I would describe it as intrusive and unnecessarily aggressive. "genial" would not enter the discussion
[02:29] <akik> gbell: according to those comments, it's possible to rescue the partition table with testdisk
[02:30] <gbell> @akik: It's unclear how testdisk would do that... they all get marked as NTFS partitions (that *may* have been what happened to me, but what I recall is that it killed them off completely and left one big NTFS partition).
[02:30] <akik> but i'm sure if would also have one of those wtf moments
[02:30] <akik> i would
[02:35] <akik> acer's recovery environment software warned that it would remove the partitions of the flash device that was used. i had a 2 terabyte hard disk that i wanted to use so i prepared one ntfs partition on it. after the creation of the rescue environment there was one 32 gigabyte partition on that big disk
[02:37]  * reisio wouldn't run acer software
[02:38] <reisio> you can backup a Windows install with sfdisk/sgdisk & ntfsclone, and dd for the boot loader if you want
[02:42] <rsully> 16.04 ships with zfs? is it available during install process?
[02:42] <akik> here http://askubuntu.com/questions/665445/upgraded-to-windows-10-on-dual-boot-and-cant-boot-to-ubuntu-partition?lq=1 kvangent had success using parted rescue
[02:49] <Abe_> am I in offtopic?
[02:50] <sansay> Hey guys does anyone know the command to enter the varnish terminal on my server?
[02:50] <Abe_> this is offtopic right?
[02:50] <akik> Abe_: no
[02:50] <dax> Abe_: this is #ubuntu. for -offtopic, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <Abe_> lol I was pretty sure i'm in offtopic
[02:53] <Dougie187> How do I move a LUKS header from one drive to another?
[02:55] <zproc_> Hello
[02:56] <zproc_> my Ubuntu 15.10 suddenly boots to busybox... i don't know what happened... is there anything i can do to save the install?
[02:58] <snoppen> h
[03:03] <zproc_> weird thing but i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[03:05] <Bashing-om> zproc_: There is also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594052 .
[03:06] <Finetundra> evening folks, every time I try to run apt-get install I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) in return
[03:06] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: ha finally
[03:06] <Finetundra> Can someone help me resolve this?
[03:06] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: thanks for your help
[03:07] <robotdevil1> EriC^^: hard for me wrap m head around something I think is so stupid lol
[03:07] <robotdevil1> linuxmodder: also thanks to you too
[03:08] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: Post the command and the full output in a pastebin so we get all in context .
[03:12] <Finetundra> Bashing-om: erm nevermind that. It seems to have magically resolved its issues
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: Love it when the system heals it's self :)
[03:13] <Finetundra> It annoys me
[03:13] <Finetundra> Cause every time it does that it's after I've asked you guys a question
[03:13] <snapsnail> I'm really struggling with a IPTables issues. I posted it in AskUbuntu and I'm not getting any bites. Can anyone help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/764101/iptables-config-to-passthrough-internet-16-04
[03:13] <Finetundra> And then I feel like I've needlessly bothered you guys
[03:13] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: Inquiring minds want to know .. read the logs :)
[03:16] <Finetundra> Bashing-om: which particular log do you want?
[03:16] <zproc_> Yep, choosing another superblock fixed the boot to busybox/initramfs
[03:16] <wellytom> hi guys
[03:16] <wellytom> wassup
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: Oj .. I do not want .. but you might find /var/log/dpkg.log ; dpkg.log.1 of interest .
[03:18] <wellytom> guys, i have windows 10 on my PC and after a lot of shits i decided to try linux system
[03:18] <flapjack> stop swearing, my moms watching!!!
[03:18] <Bashing-om> ! cookie | zproc_
[03:18] <wellytom> i downloaded this new version of ubuntu but i can't boot the system to install this :(
[03:19] <preston> wellytom: what is it saying
[03:19] <zproc_> Bashing-om well, thanks? I helped myself, yes.. well...
[03:19] <preston> does it boot to grub
[03:19] <Bashing-om> !uefi | wellytom
[03:20] <wellytom> hmm i'll check this, thx guys
[03:20] <Bashing-om> zproc_: cookie cause I can not get !Yah to work for me .
[03:20] <preston> legacy bios is cooler
[03:24] <preston> im tired as shit goodnight
[03:24] <flapjack> stop swearing, my moms watching!!!
[03:24]  * dax sighs
[03:25] <dax> ~help
[03:26] <Rooster> Hello?
[03:27] <Sebastien> hi
[03:27] <Rooster> I don't think this is Ubuntuprelated, but does anyone know how I can create a shell account?
[03:27] <Rooster> Ubuntu-related*
[03:28] <LambdaComplex> shell account?
[03:28] <zproc_> new user on your system or...?
[03:28] <Rooster> An account I can usr to create a secure connection to IRC?
[03:28] <Rooster> use*
[03:29] <dax> probably better off asking #freenode
[03:29] <Rooster> Thanks, didn't know where to ask
[03:30] <drew__> hello
[03:38] <viju> It's taking forever to install some softwares, I am using ubuntu software.
[03:39] <viju> It's stuck there. What can be done?
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> viju: what software are we talking about?
[03:42] <Qasker> is another process interrupting?
[03:45] <criptomano> hi! i have installed ubuntu on a LVM volume which its physical volume is encrypted with cryptsetup. I'm trying to configure grub2 to boot this installation but it doesn't ask me to type the disk password and throws an error saying no such device. Did anybody do something like this?
[03:46] <criptomano> i am using the grub configuration of arch linux (it is also installed on an encrypted lvm volume) and it does ask for disk password
[03:48] <Rooster> Does anyone use irssi? or XChat?
[03:48] <Rooster> I don't know what to choose for IRC
[03:49] <kisb> hexchat
[03:49] <smatic> hello all
[03:49] <Rooster> kisb, is that run from the terminal like irssi?
[03:49] <Rooster> ran*
[03:49] <kisb> Rooster, no its gui for big boys
[03:50] <nchambers> Don't use xchat. Its dead
[03:50] <Rooster> Thanks, I guess it's time to become a big boy. I'm new to IRC.
[03:50] <dax> use weechat or hexchat.
[03:51] <wasley> why its dead, I'm use the xchat now
[03:51] <dax> first is command-line, second is graphical
[03:51] <dax> wasley: unmaintained upstream, switch to hexchat
[03:51] <dax> it's like xchat except not abandoned
[03:51] <Rooster> Sorry to sound dumb, but what do you mean upstream?
[03:51] <dax> Rooster: upstream = the people who actually make the software
[03:51] <dax> as opposed to e.g. Ubuntu that just packages it up
[03:51] <Rooster> S it's unsupported?
[03:51] <Rooster> So*
[03:52] <dax> xchat development is dead
[03:52] <Rooster> Okay, gotcha
[03:53] <viju> lotuspsychje, I am installing open arena and supertux racing
[03:53] <Rooster> Ubuntu isn't on the server list for Hexchat?
[03:53] <nolsen> Is amd64-microcode needed? does it make any improvements?
[03:54] <viju> And it's stuck there for last half an hour.
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> viju: abort, reboot and start again perhaps from terminal to see whats going on?
[03:54] <smatic> as I can Decrypt an encrypted drive :(
[03:55] <dax> Rooster: Ubuntu IRC = freenode
[03:55] <dax> Rooster: irc.ubuntu.com just aliases to chat.freenode.net
[03:55] <Rookie> f
[03:56] <Rooster> r
[03:57] <Rooster> What's so special about Hexchat, it has the exact same gui as XChat?
[03:58] <dax> it's been updated in the last 5 years, unlike xchat
[03:58] <dax> read: it gets security and bugfix updates, unlike xchat
[03:58] <Rooster> I see
[03:59] <reisio> xchat is dead
[03:59] <LambdaComplex> why do people still use xchat
[04:00] <reisio> they're using old installs
[04:00] <Rooster> Because they don't know it's dead, like me lol
[04:00] <reisio> like "LTS" :p
[04:00] <reisio> they've opted to avoid updating, on purpose... :p
[04:00] <Rooster> I still use LTS, is that bad?
[04:00] <reisio> Rooster: it's not bad, but it's silly, if you think it's getting you anything worth having
[04:00] <denysonique> Well
[04:00] <LambdaComplex> "maybe"
[04:00] <denysonique> I just learned now from you about Hexchat
[04:00] <denysonique> right now I am on XChat
[04:00] <reisio> right, and you're using old Ubuntu
[04:01] <Rooster> So, what you're telling me is I should just do a fresh install over it with 16?
[04:01] <reisio> Rooster: nope
[04:01] <smatic> fucushu456
[04:01] <viju> How do I stop the installation then?
[04:01] <reisio> viju: of what?
[04:01] <denysonique> 14.04LTS
[04:01] <Rooster> I can't upgrade versions anyway, so I'm stuck here because I don't know why I can't.
[04:02] <denysonique> but I guess there must be a ppa for hexchat
[04:02] <Rooster> It kinda pisses me off
[04:02] <viju> reisio, I am installing some games, but it's stuck for a while now.
[04:02] <reisio> denysonique: right, really, really old
[04:02] <reisio> viju: killing the process /should/ have no ill effects
[04:03] <reisio> Rooster: that'd be annoying
[04:03] <denysonique> reisio, I used to run a Gentoo install that was rebuilding everything from git everyday
[04:03] <denysonique> bleeding edge
[04:03] <smatic> how to access my home enriptada from another user or a live cd?
[04:03] <Rooster> Does anyone else have problems upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 through update manager?
[04:03] <viju> reisio, how?
[04:04] <reisio> denysonique: sounds excessive
[04:04] <reisio> viju: this the 'Software' gui?
[04:04] <viju> yes
[04:04] <reisio> viju: you can run 'xkill', then click on the window
[04:05] <viju> reisio, the window is already closed.
[04:05] <reisio> viju: so what's the problem?
[04:06] <viju> The process is running in the background that's stopping me from using the command line apt-get
[04:06] <Ben64> Rooster: why would you upgrade not to 16.04
[04:06] <Rooster> Because I can't do it through the update manager and to upgrade straight 16.04 I would have to install it over 14.04 and I have a bunch of stuff I want to save.
[04:07] <viju> reisio, I was installing some games. And then it stuck for an hour now. The Ubuntu Software is as unstable as before and I have no idea how to find it's pid and kill it.
[04:07] <denysonique> 14.04 LTS is until 2019, I personally don't see a valid reason to upgrade
[04:07] <viju> I just want those games installed.
[04:07] <Rooster> I just like having the latest version
[04:07] <Ben64> Rooster: no, you can upgrade straight to 16.04, it's just not offered until 16.04.1
[04:07] <denysonique> I prefer to not spend time on upgrading/installing stuff
[04:08] <viju> denysonique, yes there shouldnt be any reason. It's like we are forced to upgrade.
[04:08] <reisio> viju: what makes you think it's running?
[04:08] <Rooster> Ben64, care to enlighten me? I have no idea how to go straight to 16.04
[04:08] <kisb> upgrade keeps your files
[04:08] <denysonique> The reason I switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu on my desktop is to have a peace of mind
[04:08] <viju> reisio, because I tried apt-get and there's a lock
[04:08] <Ben64> Rooster: did you change anything
[04:08] <denysonique> hence I am reluctant to upgrades and so on
[04:09] <Rooster> Ben64, I think I may have third-party repositories that stop me?
[04:09] <denysonique> btw, I thought there was going to be some sort of rolling-release Ubuntu?
[04:10] <Ben64> Rooster: i mean did you change the upgrade thing from LTS to something else
[04:10] <Rooster> Ben64, No
[04:11] <Ben64> Rooster: then 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' should start the process, but be aware, it's not recommended to upgrade from 14.04 until 16.04.1
[04:11] <dax> denysonique: nope
[04:11] <dax> denysonique: it gets considered every so often, but nobody wants to maintain it
[04:12] <dax> !info hexchat trusty
[04:12] <dax> thought so.
[04:12] <Rooster> Ben64, yes, but it takes me to 15.10 before 16.04
[04:12] <denysonique> Why Ubuntu has not sorted out single init scripts by 16.04 yet?
[04:12] <dax> denysonique: elaborate on "single init scripts"
[04:12] <denysonique> Some are in /etc/init and some in /etc/init.d/
[04:13] <denysonique> and there is no single tool to manage them all
[04:13] <denysonique> Don't you think that is a mess?
[04:13] <Rooster> Ben64, it says "404 Not Found".
[04:13] <Ben64> Rooster: what is the output of "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | grep Prompt"
[04:13] <d4rl3n3> #
[04:13] <dax> denysonique: the default init daemon on a given Ubuntu version manages both its scripts and legacy sysvinit scripts just fine
[04:14] <Rooster> Ben64: "Prompt=normal"
[04:14] <dax> Rooster: change that to Prompt=lts, then do the -d command again
[04:14] <Ben64> Rooster: so you did change it....
[04:14] <denysonique> dax, I am talking about a userspace program for adding/removing them
[04:14] <Rooster> How do I change the Prompt?
[04:14] <denysonique> actually, enabling/disabling them
[04:14] <Rooster> I haven't done anything, honestly.
[04:15] <Ben64> Rooster: sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[04:15] <smatic> how to access my home encrypt from live cd?
[04:16] <dax> denysonique: no idea how to do it on old Ubuntu that still uses upstart, but on modern systemd Ubuntus, sudo systemctl servicenamehere disable works fine for both
[04:16] <dax> (note: this is because i haven't used upstart in years, not because it's not possible, i assume)
[04:16] <Rooster> Ben64: Alright, I changed it. Should I try running the update command again?
[04:17] <dax> anyways, going afk
[04:17] <Ben64> Rooster: yeah it should work, might need a "sudo apt-get update" first
[04:17] <Rooster> Already did
[04:17] <snapsnail> Hello
[04:18] <denysonique> dax, thats nice, you are right, I just checked it out, and systemd successfully can manage an apache2 /etc/init.d/ script
[04:18] <denysonique> on 16.04
[04:18] <snapsnail> Are there any IPTables wizards out there?
[04:18] <reisio> snapsnail: #netfilter
[04:19] <Rooster> IT WORKED
[04:19] <snapsnail> Sweet, I'll check over there.
[04:19] <Rooster> Ben64: Thank you! How do you know this?
[04:19] <Rooster> I've been googling for the past month and can't get any answers.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Rooster: Ben64 has a smart bump .. he rubs as required .
[04:24] <Rooster> I'm assuming that means he's intelligent, but the analogy weird lol
[04:25] <Rooster> I'm so damn happy right now
[04:26] <reisio> gj
[04:27] <Guest73494> Not sure if I should be asking this in #windows or #ubuntu; the answer to that question has gotten a lot more vague ever since MSOFT brought Bash to their OS.
[04:27] <EmberCrest> Always forget to do that.
[04:27] <reisio> EmberCrest: do what, ask a question? :p
[04:27] <Rooster> Lol, what's the question?
[04:27] <EmberCrest> Haha no, change my nick after I Identify.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !ubuwin | EmberCrest
[04:27] <reisio> yay spam...
[04:28] <EmberCrest> Oh okay
[04:28] <EmberCrest> that actually makes things a lot easier, but this could actually apply well to my Ubuntu box too
[04:28]  * reisio headdesks
[04:28] <reisio> 'this' is a real problem these days
[04:28] <reisio> seems like it's affecting everyone
[04:29] <EmberCrest> If I'm running an older version of Ubuntu, is there any way to force apt-get to download the latest version of a package?
[04:29] <Rooster> Spam where?
[04:29] <reisio> Rooster: exactly
[04:29] <EmberCrest> Seems as though the version that gets downloaded is dependent on how compatible it is with the OS release.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> EmberCrest: lets hope not an EOL version...
[04:30] <Rooster> oh lol
[04:30] <reisio> EmberCrest: there is no straightforward, simple way that I know of; technically possible, yes
[04:30] <EmberCrest> hm ok. I have irssi 0.8.15 and I want 0.8.18, but ubuntu-on-win is only in version 14.0.4
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> EmberCrest: and your versions is...?
[04:31] <reisio> EmberCrest: why do you want .18?
[04:31] <reisio> lotuspsychje: nice
[04:31] <EmberCrest> lotus: of ubuntu? 14.04
[04:31] <EmberCrest> reisio: SASL is incorporated by default; no need for a perl script.
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !latest | EmberCrest
[04:32] <EmberCrest> !backports
[04:32] <Rooster> How do you guys know about all this?
[04:32] <EmberCrest> ^^
[04:32] <EmberCrest> Veteran Linux users I guess.
[04:32] <Learner> Hi guys, I have some questions about python in ubuntu
[04:33] <LambdaComplex> then ask them
[04:33] <Rooster> I've been using linux for about 3 years now and I have not even half the knowledge they have right now
[04:33] <EmberCrest> Well Linux has been around for far longer than 3 years.
[04:33] <Rooster> I know that but seriously, I feel 'noobish'.
[04:33] <Learner> OK, I am using ubuntu and kivy to convert an app in .py into .apk, but I think some of the extensions are not in the python-to-android recipes
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Rooster
[04:34] <Rooster> lotuspsychje: what?
[04:34] <Bashing-om> EmberCrest: " #irssi: Latest version: 0.8.19 " join #irssi for details .
[04:34] <EmberCrest> Bashing-om: doesnt really help but thanks.
[04:34] <EmberCrest> actually
[04:34] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: sometimes communication is a little bit more complex than an answer in stackoverflow
[04:34] <EmberCrest> it might never mind.
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: it means, if you dont have an ubuntu question plz use the other chat channels
[04:35] <Rooster> oh sorry, thanks!
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: meaning?
[04:35] <Learner> yes my question is about ubuntu
[04:36] <Learner> I have two versions of python in my ubuntu: one at /usr/lib/python2.7 and another at /usr/local/lib/python2.7
[04:36] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: I understand that sometimes the out of topic conversations can be counterproductive
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: they surely can, if its related to a specific issue..wich was not this case
[04:37] <Learner> if you guys don't think it's a ubuntu question, I will leave, is it more appropriate to be at python or kivy?
[04:37] <minitrue> lotuspsychje: yes, but sometimes even a small shift is condemned
[04:37] <cfhowlett> Learner, that is normal
[04:39] <Learner> the problem is in terminal, i can pip install modules, but after going into 'python', I get an error message saying I don't have that package. Is that a problem of not putting both paths as PYTHONPATH?
[04:39] <minitrue> I remember someone trying to fix a problem and he said that it all started with systemd that he was frustrated, and someone send him to #ubuntu-discuss
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> minitrue: thats not what i did...and lets dicuss this not here but in #ubuntu-discuss plz
[04:52] <Rooster> lotuspsychje: So, the upgrade is asking me if it should auto-restart the libraries instead of my manually checking each one. Should I do auto?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: i wasnt following your issue with Ben64 sorry
[04:54] <wellytom> Yo guys
[04:54] <wellytom> i'm back
[04:54] <wellytom> well, i installed ubuntu o//
[04:54] <wellytom> thx for the help, again
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> wellytom: you remember who helped you?
[04:55] <Rooster> lotuspsychje, nvm I got it
[04:55] <Bashing-om> wellytom: gj .. glad you made it .
[04:55] <wellytom> i dont :( it was really fast haha
[04:56] <wellytom> btw, i saw on videos that the programs for ubuntu is easily found on ubuntu "store"
[04:56] <wellytom> but it seems to have a REALLY feel programs there
[04:57] <wellytom> its cuz the developers do not update to this new version of ubuntu?
[04:58] <kisb> the programs are there
[04:58] <Solarbaby> wellytom: you could install the Ubuntu-Mate-welcome, which is another Ubuntu store that I'd say is much more helpful
[04:59] <Bashing-om> wellytom: What release did you install ?.. 16.04 in in the midst of re-organizing .
[05:00] <wellytom> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[05:00] <wellytom> the first one I saw on the website xD
[05:01] <wellytom> maybe i should install some older version?
[05:03] <wellytom> and Solarbaby , i'll check this ubuntu-mate-welcome . Thx for the suggestion
[05:03] <Solarbaby> wellytom: anytime!
[05:06] <wellytom> solarbaby , i read in somewhere that exist channels from local communites
[05:06] <minitrue> Rooster: why do you want to use ssh to connect to irc?  if you want to have the content encrypted you can use ssl, how to do that depends on your irc cliente.
[05:07] <Rooster> minitrue: Well, not necessarily SSH, but I just want a secure connection to IRC
[05:09] <minitrue> Rooster: you should be able to configure that in your irc cliente, for example in irc you usr -ssl and port 6697 for freenode
[05:10] <minitrue> * in irssi
[05:10] <Rooster> minitrue: I stopped using irssi because Hexchat seemed to be a more supported program
[05:11] <Rooster> minitrue: and irssi is run from the terminal and I have no idea how to SSL with it
[05:11] <mohsen-rashidi> Hi. I want to connect to my Ubuntu box through my phone but the phone shows an error. I can ssh to my computer but not sftp. what am I doing wrong?
[05:14] <Zenn> hi guys, I know this has been asked almost most of the time, but should I switch to Ubuntu, coming from Windows 7 as Im gotten sick of the speed and security of windows, I downgraded from Windows 10 btw.
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: do you want single boot or dualboot?
[05:15] <Zenn> I have no reason to let windows run on my system, maybe the need of microsoft office etc
[05:15] <Zenn> but I think there is a open source one which is better.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: libreoffice is installed by default on ubuntu
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: so we surely recommend installing ubuntu :p
[05:15] <Rooster> minitrue: so I just run ssl by command and put a server and port number?
[05:15] <Zenn> can we run office excel on it etc and vice versa
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !download | Zenn
[05:16] <Zenn> so when I open it on a windows com it will work just fine.
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: the libreoffice documents can be stored as .doc .docx etc also yes
[05:16] <Zenn> no formatting issues?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: the ubuntu install is pretty intuitive and will guide you through the process
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: is your system uefi?
[05:17] <Zenn> I meant opening excel file vice versa etc on windows and ubuntu
[05:17] <Zenn> wont it messed anything up?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: the documents exchange well in between ms office and libreoffice
[05:18] <Zenn> uh that's nice.
[05:18] <Zenn> seems like ubuntu has the others covered.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: and there is a #libreoffice help channel, if needed
[05:19] <Zenn> another thing I have a intel 4000 gfx card with Nvidia 710m dual graphic card
[05:19] <Zenn> will Ubuntu install it?
[05:19] <Zenn> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.60GHz) • Memory: 3.8 GiB Total (1.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 93.6 GiB / 465.4 GiB (371.8 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA GeForce 710M • Uptime: 36m 52s
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: you can test ubuntu in a liveusb, check features for yourself might also be handy
[05:19] <Zenn> current specs
[05:20] <Bashing-om> Rooster: See: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup for SSL .
[05:20] <Zenn> ok need to install it on my USB?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: if you enable internet/cable, enable updates during setup and 3rd party software ubuntu will try to choose best drivers for you
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Zenn yes
[05:21] <Zenn> wow this is awesome
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: universal usb installer is pretty neat from windows
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: perhaps also choose an LTS version
[05:21] <Zenn> well I have windows now
[05:21] <Zenn> o.o so how do I install it into my usb drive
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: choose the right ubuntu .iso at ubuntu.com and let the program burn it on stick
[05:22] <Zenn> yes the program ? any recommandation ?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: universal usb installer (from windows)
[05:23] <Rooster> Bashing-om: I don't see anything about securing the shell.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: other things to choose: your ubuntu flavor, your architecture and LTS or non-LTS
[05:24] <Zenn> the newest one is 13.04?
[05:24] <Zenn> x64?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: no, 16.04
[05:25] <Zenn> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ ?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: yes thats the one
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | Zenn
[05:26] <Zenn> any reason to use Others?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: well that is the users choice really
[05:26] <Zenn> well I will just use Ubuntu
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: there are likes/dislikes for everyone
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: if you like unity, ubuntu-desktop 14.04 or 16.04 will do fine
[05:27] <Zenn> uh http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ which one should I choose?
[05:27] <Zenn> 32 or 64 bit?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: if your cpu is 64bit capable, choose ubuntu 64bit
[05:28] <Rooster> my question remains unanswered...
[05:28] <Zenn> yes 64 bit capable
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Rooster: its wise to re-ask once in a while, so other helpers can try to solve
[05:28] <Zenn> what is i386?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: 32bit
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: x86_64 the 6'bit
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> 64
[05:30] <ubuntu-mate> hello, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu, the installer gives me an error 5... says that my hardware is faulty, although it is working gine
[05:32] <ubuntu-mate> *fine
[05:37] <ubuntu-mate> any help or advice? I have not found the solution to the problem
[05:38] <Zenn> lotuspsychje, Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2).
[05:38] <Zenn> I have a 64 bit
[05:38] <Zenn> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.60GHz) • Memory: 3.8 GiB Total (1.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 95.9 GiB / 467.4 GiB (371.5 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA GeForce 710M • Uptime: 55m 47s
[05:38] <Zenn> but It isnt amd
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: yes, but amd64 is the general name for 64bit
[05:39] <Zenn> so it should work fine on install?
[05:39] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: if your cpu is 64bit capable yes
[05:39] <Zenn> it is 64 bit capable.
[05:39] <Zenn> oh alright thanks.
[05:39] <Zenn> :)
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: ok good luck mate
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: ubuntu version? uefi?
[05:40] <ubuntu-mate> 64 bit my computer is in bios mode
[05:40] <Zenn> is ubuntu open source? o.o by canonical?
[05:40] <Zenn> is there a place where I can see the source code?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Zenn: and welcome to the ubuntu community, if you need anything after install come back here
[05:40] <ubuntu-mate> I removed everything from the drive I tried installing the grub and it failed.
[05:40] <ubuntu-mate> I also tried installing arch and it failed too
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !gnu | Zenn
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: you sure you disabled fastboot and secureboot?
[05:41] <ubuntu-mate> yes, I have it all disabled
[05:42] <mohsen-rashidi> I can`t connect to my computer through sftp but i can ssh to it. what`s the problem?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: at wich step exactly the setup fail?
[05:42] <ubuntu-mate> generating the fstab thingy,
[05:42] <ubuntu-mate> and the installing bootloader
[05:42] <ubuntu-mate> leme get you the error from the ubuntu installer
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: are you manually partitoning?
[05:43] <ubuntu-mate> it is only one partition and one drive.
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: so ubuntu setup automatic partitioning?
[05:43] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: wich ubuntu iso did you download exactly?
[05:44] <ubuntu-mate> 64bit 16.04LTS
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: not alpha or daily or so right?
[05:45] <ubuntu-mate> yes, the normal one
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: did you md5 after iso download?
[05:45] <ubuntu-mate> the installer is now quiting when I select install
[05:45] <ubuntu-mate> no
[05:46] <clear`> im also having an install problem with 16.04, but im trying a few different things first
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: so the setup never reaches your harddisk?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: what kind of harddisk do you have?
[05:47] <ubuntu-mate> it was going through the installation till the part of copying files and then quits midway with the error saying my hard disk is faulty
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: harddisk brand please? type?
[05:49] <clear`> is it a new or old drive? ssd?
[05:49] <ubuntu-mate> an old drive that came with the computer acer aspire 7720
[05:49] <ubuntu-mate> I cannot find the brand name or anything of that nature
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: hitachi perhaps
[05:49] <Xark> ubuntu-mate: Can you have windows do a scan of the drive perhaps?  Perhaps it is bad?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: in your bios, you can also see the brand of hd
[05:50] <ubuntu-mate> I don't have anything installed on it. I'm currently using a live usb
[05:50] <ubuntu-mate> no, I cannot find the brand name
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: can you reach to the ubuntu live desktop?
[05:51] <ubuntu-mate> yes, it is the one I'm using rightnow
[05:52] <clear`> ffs, im about to give up
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: hdparm -i /dev/sdX
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> clear`: whats going on?
[05:52] <clear`> ill let you finish with Ubuntu-mate first
[05:52] <clear`> well he is gone
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> clear`: he left
[05:52] <clear`> fresh install, 16.04, getting reboot and select proper boot device
[05:52] <clear`> did boot repair
[05:53] <clear`> still getting it
[05:53] <clear`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16139550/
[05:53] <clear`> thats the boot repair log
[05:54] <ubuntuuser> In 16.04 my wifi doesn't work in network manager properly
[05:54] <ubuntuuser> I connect via wifi and it give me an ethernet symbol in the panel.  Is there a known fix for broken wifi in 16.04?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuuser: try a: sudo service network-manager restart
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuuser: your on a broadcom chipset?
[05:54] <ubuntuuser> lotuspsychje, is that a permanent solution?
[05:54] <ubuntuuser> lotuspsychje, i'm on intel wifi
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuuser: well i also had it a few times already, think its a known bug
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> clear`: explain the full story plz?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuuser: if you file a new bug, ill mark me as affected if you like
[05:56] <Rhorse> could be old config. See if you can clear your config and start fresh.
[05:56] <clear`> well, wanted a larger ssd, going from 120gb to 240gb, i tried clonezilla, got the reboot and select proper device message, figured the clone didnt work right
[05:56] <clear`> so went through the installation of a fresh copy, getting the same error, tried boot repair as well
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Rhorse: i got the same on fresh install
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> clear`: fres install on the new sdd fails at wich point?
[05:57] <clear`> its not the install that fails, its the restart after the install is completed
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> clear`: what happens exactly on restart?
[05:58] <clear`> black screen, reboot and select proper device
[05:58] <inocuous> grub prompt?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> clear`: secureboot and fastboot disabled? IDE to AHCI changed in bios?
[05:59] <clear`> tried both of those disabled, not sure how to change ide to ahci, i didnt see that option in bios
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> clear`: but you had an ssd before right?
[05:59] <clear`> yes
[06:00] <clear`> that ssd still works fine
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> clear`: so must be set to ahci already to work
[06:00] <clear`> k
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> clear`: but check anyway if you find in bios
[06:00] <clear`> doing another boot repair, will reboot in a second and look
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> clear`: did you switch ssd positions?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> clear`: perhaps priority isnt good?
[06:01] <clear`> laptop, only one spot
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> clear`: wich new ssd brand?
[06:01] <clear`> intel, same brand as the other
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> weird
[06:02] <clear`> tell me about it :(
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> clear`: can you doublecheck uefi settings
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> clear`: its about the only that would make sense here
[06:03] <clear`> yea, using boot repair to purge and reinstall grub
[06:03] <clear`> maybe grub is acting up for some unknown reason
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> clear`: when not disabled, it can result in black screen with blink _ at corner
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | clear`
[06:04] <clear`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16139615/
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> clear`: im almost on breakfast, if you cant get it right ping EriC^^ he's our uefi specialist
[06:05] <clear`> that didnt work ffs
[06:05] <clear`> ok in bios
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> clear`: did you manually partition?
[06:06] <clear`> secure boot off
[06:06] <clear`> boot mode uefi boot
[06:06] <clear`> i did not lotuspsychje
[06:06] <Rooster>  
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> clear`: try legacy
[06:06] <clear`> !legacy
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> clear`: probably its blocking your ubuntu install
[06:07] <clear`> thats over my head
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> clear`: you will need a reinstall if uefi settings changed
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> clear`: normally you can choose uefi boot or legacy boot
[06:08] <clear`> oh, i didnt see legacy in there
[06:08] <reisio> sometimes we don't see things we aren't looking for
[06:08] <clear`> it was uefi and csm boot
[06:08] <XxNemoxX> Hello
[06:08] <clear`> lol im looking right at it ;)
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> clear`: reinstall quick :p
[06:09] <XxNemoxX> are you on a kano
[06:09] <clear`> another reinstall?!
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> clear`: yes
[06:09] <clear`> glad it only takes 20 minutes
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> clear`: 10min on my new 850 pro here
[06:10] <XxNemoxX> Are you on a Kano
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> XxNemoxX: can we help you?
[06:10] <clear`> was just guestimating
[06:10] <clear`> but yea its pretty fast
[06:10] <clear`> compared to the 2 hours of win10 install and updating
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:11] <XxNemoxX> no i was just asking are you on a kano or rasberry p
[06:11] <clear`> bought new work laptops for employees, did a fresh install because of all the bloatware installed
[06:11] <XxNemoxX> pi
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !arm | XxNemoxX
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> clear`: great idea!
[06:11] <clear`> i no longer use my pi
[06:11] <clear`> i bought 2 mini-pc's
[06:11] <reisio> SBC named after a rapper? :P
[06:12] <XxNemoxX> lotuspsychje did u say arm to me
[06:12] <reisio> interesting way to profit off rpis... bundle them with really expensive shiny peripherals
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> XxNemoxX: yes
[06:13] <XxNemoxX> ok
[06:13] <reisio> and then charge more :p
[06:14] <XxNemoxX> hello
[06:14] <clear`> lotuspsychje: installation type, if i select erase disk and install xubuntu, that will erase everything and do the partitions for me right
[06:14] <clear`> it should handle everything, or should i do "something else"
[06:15] <XxNemoxX> are u on a raspberry pi or laptop or pc
[06:15] <XxNemoxX> or a kano
[06:15] <reisio> kano is a raspberry pi, no?
[06:15] <XxNemoxX> it is but its mainly for kids
[06:16] <reisio> kids whose parents haven't taught them about frugality
[06:16] <reisio> or sensibility
[06:16] <reisio> you can get a full blown x86 laptop for the same price
[06:16] <reisio> that comes with a screen...
[06:17] <reisio> and the ability to be more than useless
[06:17] <XxNemoxX> NO Kids who want to have fun and are good at codeing
[06:17] <reisio> ...
[06:17] <reisio> think you're confusing wasting money and having fun
[06:18] <XxNemoxX> Its not wasting money Kano was built to educate
[06:18] <reisio> can't believe they sunk $1.5 million dollars on a way to assist children in overpaying for inferior computers
[06:18] <reisio> I mean I can believe it, but I don't want to
[06:19] <cfhowlett> XxNemoxX, let's move on.  the topic in this channel is ubuntu support.  other discussions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <XxNemoxX> wait are you from usa
[06:19] <XxNemoxX> Ok
[06:19] <XxNemoxX> bye
[06:19] <reisio> adios
[06:20] <cfhowlett> XxNemoxX, irrelevant.  stay on topic
[06:20] <XxNemoxX> Ok
[06:42] <Zenn> hi guys
[06:42] <Zenn> lotuspsychje, you there?
[06:43] <Guest84102> It seems like ubuntu dont recongised where I am from timezone
[06:43] <Guest84102> o.o
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest84102: did you enable internet?
[06:43] <Guest84102> yeah I did
[06:43] <Guest84102> http://i.imgur.com/bn8vkZG.png
[06:44] <clear`> just check manual
[06:44] <clear`> and put in new york
[06:44] <Guest84102> Im from Singapore o.o and not from new York
[06:44] <clear`> lotuspsychje: i grabbed an older hard drive, going to see if the install works on that
[06:44] <clear`> oh, then just put in singapore
[06:45] <clear`> more than likely your ip is why it doesnt know, could be detected as proxy or something
[06:45] <reisio> no, new york!
[06:45] <reisio> no merlions here!
[06:45] <Guest84102> does not work.
[06:45] <Guest84102> my ip?
[06:45] <reisio> Guest84102: /nick merlion
[06:46] <Guest84102> lol
[06:46] <Guest84102> well some help would be nice.
[06:46] <clear`> Guest84102: you cant select singapore?
[06:46] <squinty> B
[06:46] <clear`> or hit manual and put it in?
[06:46] <reisio> not having to type SHIFT+G, u, e, s, t, 8, 4, TAB would be nice
[06:46] <Guest84102> there isnt Singapore at all
[06:47] <clear`> reisio: you shouldnt have to, tab should pick the last Guest84102 that has spoken in the channel
[06:47] <clear`> mine does atleast
[06:47] <clear`> konversation ftw
[06:47] <squinty> Guest84102,  you can use your mouse to click on the appropriate area on the displayed atlas
[06:47] <reisio> 'guest8' works, it's still annoying
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> clear`: to avoid the reinstalling gonna test another hd on legacy?
[06:48] <Guest84102> done thanks use the click appropriate method
[06:48] <clear`> lotuspsychje: already tried another reinstall
[06:48] <clear`> same thing
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> weird
[06:50] <clear`> i have that hard drive hooked up into a usb adapter, it works just fine
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> anyway breakfast here
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:50] <clear`> and i see the OS
[06:50] <clear`> have a good one, thanks
[06:52] <wonka_> hii^
[06:53] <clear`> hi
[06:54] <wonka_> where you from
[06:54] <wonka_> chow la
[06:57] <cfhowlett> wonka_, ubuntu support question?
[06:57] <auronandace> cfhowlett: he left
[07:00] <Zenn3>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-21-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.29GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.7GiB, 58.6% free ** Disk: Total: 454.6GiB, 93.9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet **
[07:00] <Zenn3> Uptime: 32m 11s **
[07:00] <reisio> needs more asterisks
[07:00] <Zenn3> lol
[07:04] <ubuntu_wtf> I tried to install Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 using encryption and btrfs and it failed misserably, has anyone figured out how to do this?
[07:04] <inocuous> https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable
[07:04] <ubuntu_wtf> I tried to make /boot ext4, a root (32GB) of btrfs, and a home (1.8TB) btrfs
[07:05] <ubuntu_wtf> Does anyone have a recipe for btrfs+luks in an EFI/GPT environment to install 16.04 GNOME?
[07:07] <nolsen> For some reason libstdc++.so.6 doesn't exist in /usr/lib, but the libstdc++.so.6 package is installed.
[07:09] <akik> nolsen: it's in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[07:10] <reisio> ubuntu_wtf: needs more complication
[07:10] <akik> nolsen: you can use dpkg -L libstdc++6
[07:11] <TheOneLaw> X
[07:12] <Olotila> how do I run a program in terminal and continue working in terminal?
[07:13] <AciD`> use &
[07:13] <AciD`> at the end
[07:13] <Olotila> like command &
[07:13] <Olotila> ?
[07:13] <Olotila> doesnt work, my terminal gets flooded with error and I do not get cursor back
[07:14] <akik> Olotila: yes but it's usually more useful to open a new tab since the output from command is shown in the same terminal
[07:14] <Olotila> oh wait, It did work :)
[07:14] <Olotila> new tab?
[07:14] <Olotila> how do I do that?
[07:15] <akik> Olotila: oh you're not running xorg?
[07:16] <akik> Olotila: then there's the screen terminal multiplexer which enables you to have terminal sessions on top of each other
[07:17] <Olotila> I just use different windows
[07:17] <Olotila> how do I get that?
[07:17] <akik> Olotila: sudo apt install screen
[07:18] <Olotila> ah ok
[07:23] <lundmar> Olotila: sudo apt-get install tmux
[07:23] <lundmar> much better ^^
[07:24] <akik> not this tired subject again
[07:24] <lundmar> always that subject :P
[07:24] <akik> you can do everything with screen that you do with tmux
[07:24] <TinoDidriksen> After an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 (I needed the newer packages), I'm getting tons of "can't fork" and "fork: Resource temporarily unavailable" from cron and postfix, even immediately after a reboot. How do I debug that?
[07:43] <linux> hello
[07:43] <linux> safsfsfsdfsf
[07:43] <linux> sdfsa
[07:43] <linux> fsdfadf
[07:44] <linux> sdf
[07:47] <IeePc> Hi there, i got some trouble with updated 16.04 (from 14.04) it stops booting with console login. After login, it tells me the file system is read only? As if i start up with the second choose in gruub-menue, "(upstart)" stand there, i get a normal desktop. Wnats wrong?
[07:52] <inocuous> I did a forced upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04. When I did, it booted to a grub prompt. Since I was using a USB memory stick I was able to just pull out the memory stick and reboot, and then everything worked normally.
[08:01] <mirrit> hey guys
[08:01] <TinoDidriksen> Well, I'm betting my fork issue had to do with TasksMax. Raised it from 512 to a million. Time will tell.
[08:02] <mirrit> hey guys i have just installed lubuntu 16 and my audio isnt working i cant hear anything
[08:02] <alfatau> hello all. is it possible to delete a btrfs snapshot without specifying the path but specifying the ID?
[08:10] <crestcore> Hi can any help with socat port forwarding issues
[08:12] <\9> !ask
[08:23] <crestcore> root@nuc:~# socat /dev/ttyUSB0,raw,b19200 stdout AT^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAA^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAT^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAA^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAT^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAA^M^JERROR:0C^M^JAT ERROR:0C
[08:24] <crestcore> This is the error we get when using socat.
[08:24] <decci> I installed check_openmanage plugin with nagios. Is it possible to see the plugin output under UI
[08:30] <Olotila> I put a shortcut Ctrl + Alt + M to command gnome-open ~/Documents/Muista/muista.odt but it does not work
[08:31] <Olotila> should I use " " around command or bash in front or sh in front or something?
[08:31] <Olotila> I tried something, but no effect
[08:32] <bq> what is the command for release upgrade?
[08:33] <inocuous> sudu update-manager
[08:33] <inocuous> sudo* sorry
[08:34] <bumblehead> i'm trying to understand ubuntu snap by running one of the example snaps
[08:34] <inocuous> you can force a devel upgrade but that appears to not to be recommended
[08:35] <bumblehead> I downloaded the webchat files
[08:35] <bumblehead> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/tree/master/examples/webchat
[08:35] <bumblehead> and I was able to build a *.snap package but am unable to run the package
[08:36] <bumblehead> I installed the *.snap package with this command $ sudo snap install webchat_0.0.1_amd64.snap
[08:36] <bumblehead> how can I run this webchat snap locally to see the result?
[08:37] <bumblehead> I see webchat when I run `$ snap list`
[08:38] <bumblehead> but webchat does not appear in the unity search
[08:38] <hackeron> hi there, I'm trying to upgarde from 15.10 to 16.04, I tried running do-release-upgrade with and without -d (after apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade) and I'm still getting "No new release found" - any ideas?
[08:38] <bumblehead> calling `$ webchat` results in command not found
[08:39] <inocuous>  ./webchat ?
[08:39] <bumblehead> no such file or directory found
[08:41] <inocuous> I had a similar problem with another app, but at the moment, I'm not remembering how I overcame it.
[08:42] <bumblehead> snapcraft documentation should include details for testing running packages locally
[08:42] <bumblehead> building a snap is not so useful if the result can't be verified or tested in some way
[08:42] <vbotka> hackeron, you might want to review the content of the files cat /etc/lsb-release and /etc/apt/sources.list respectively.
[08:44] <Thomas131> Hello! Can someone help me getting knockd run with just one knock-port? When I use at least two ports it works fine, but with one ...
[08:44] <hackeron> vbotka: /etc/lsb-release has DISTRIB_RELEASE=15.10 etc and sources.list is using standard official ubuntu repos with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in each line
[08:46] <freezer> hi
[08:46] <freezer> can someone tell me why iscsid is running @ Ubuntu 16.04?
[08:46] <freezer> i only have local drives
[08:47] <bumblehead> http://askubuntu.com/questions/745897/snappy-webchat-example-not-working
[08:48] <bumblehead> looks like snapcraft needs to snapbake in the oven a bit longer
[08:50] <vbotka> hackeron, have you tried "sudo update-manager -d" ?
[08:50] <hackeron> vbotka: yes
[08:51] <bekks> vbotka: you dont want to upgrade to development releases, usually.
[08:51] <hackeron> vbotka: managed to get it to start, if I edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and I change Prompt=lts to Prompt=normal, then it upgrades. Thought this was a lts release though
[08:52] <hackeron> vbotka: I guess maybe if you are not curently on lts, you need to set that to normal? - maybe it's a bug
[08:52] <Ascavasaion> I am running 14.04.4  all the howtos online say that grub config file is in /etc/default/grub.  I do not have that folder.  Can someone please tell me where else it can be found?
[08:52] <Ben64> hackeron: did you not read the file you edited
[08:52] <bekks> Ascavasaion: Then you arent using grub2, but grub1.
[08:54] <tothbbalint> Hello to everybody! I am new to Ubuntu, I have just installed 15.10 on my machine. I would like to ask, if I run sudo apt-get update, will it update my Ubuntu to 16.04? Because I would not like that to happen
[08:54] <bekks> tothbbalint: No, it will not.
[08:55] <bekks> tothbbalint: You need to use do-release-upgrade for upgrading.
[08:55] <tothbbalint> bekks, thank you very much!
[08:55] <Ben64> tothbbalint: 15.10 has ~3 months left of support though, why not install 16.04?
[08:56] <hackeron> Ben64: no, lol - but ah, that makes sense!
[08:56] <tothbbalint> I am using some specific apache/mysql/caching setup, the sys admin said our setup is not yet fully working on 16.04
[08:56] <hackeron> Ben64: thank you :)
[08:57] <bekks> tothbbalint: So he has 3 months left for fixing it :)
[08:57] <vbotka> bekks, yes, you are right
[09:00] <tothbbalint> bekks, yes, I know, but that is his problem, not mine :)
[09:00] <tothbbalint> I would like to ask something else, maybe it is a silly question, but I am new to Linux
[09:00] <tothbbalint> Can you please explain how can I use effectively the multiple workspaces?
[09:01] <bekks> tothbbalint: you can use them as having multiple screens, with different programs running on each workspace.
[09:03] <Olotila> how do I put shortcut key to command "gnome-open /path/to/file" ?
[09:03] <inocuous> It's hard to beat having two screens but workspace is the next best thing
[09:03] <tothbbalint> but for example, if I am doing some programming, and I would like to switch back and forth between 2 projects, can I run the same program independently on 2 different workspaces? like Firefox, my IDE, text editors, and so on
[09:04] <Ascavasaion> bekks: Grub 1?  how do I change to grub 2?
[09:04] <bekks> Ascavasaion: By installing it, most likely.
[09:04] <bekks> !grub2 | Ascavasaion
[09:04] <computer> hey ubuntu people, i need stupid flash in my firfox to view content can i install it through sudo apt-get?
[09:05] <bekks> !flash | computer
[09:05] <computer> bekks: i cannot through sudo apt-get?
[09:05] <bekks> computer: no, you cannot read that article through apt-get. You need a browser for reading it.
[09:06] <rud0lf> :]
[09:06] <computer> bekks: thanks, why do people still use flash? wasn't it replaced with HTML5?
[09:07] <bekks> computer: Ask the people building websites using flash.
[09:07] <computer> bekks: haha
[09:08] <Aussie_matt> anyone using the asus X205TA or intel atom chips????
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> 20 odd years now, waiting for the flash ... (silence)
[09:08] <AVP> привет всем
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[09:09] <computer> bekks: what is up with the software centre in ubuntu 16.04? many things are missing
[09:10] <AVP> ghbdtn
[09:10] <AVP> привет
[09:11] <vbotka> Aussie_matt, I do. product: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525   @ 1.80GHz
[09:11] <Aussie_matt> vbotka: hi! is that one of the 64bit cpus with 32bit uefi?
[09:14] <vbotka> Aussie_matt, yes it's 64bit, but I dont't know bout uefi
[09:14] <computer> bekks: the page you sent me says to install flashplugin-installer from the ubuntu software centre, but it is not listed
[09:14] <Aussie_matt> vbotka: ok. you're running ubuntu?
[09:15] <vbotka> Aussie_matt, yes. 14.04 on this particular device
[09:15] <varaindemian> after "$ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS" I got gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>"
[09:15] <Aussie_matt> was it a nightmare to install, or you could use the normal canonical ubuntu image
[09:16] <vbotka> Aussie_matt, IIRC it was straightforward.
[09:16] <vbotka> Aussie_matt, from the DVD image
[09:16] <Aussie_matt> ok, that means it's not 32bit efi lol...
[09:21] <vbotka> Aussie_matt, very probably isn't, for the record http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[09:23] <computer> people i cannot find flashplugin-installer in the ubuntu 16.04 software centre to install flash, what is the problem with the software centre? there are many programs missing
[09:23] <Aussie_matt> vbotka: theres a massive thread on the x205ta, just be nice to talk with someone whos got one
[09:24] <EriC^^> computer: is the multiverse repo enabled?
[09:24] <computer> EriC^^: i am not sure what is that? how can i enable it?
[09:24] <EriC^^> computer: open the dash and type software
[09:25] <computer> EriC^^: ok
[09:25] <EriC^^> click on software & updates and enable it
[09:26] <swenzel> since I upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04 on my laptop the power saving mode doesn't work anymore. First time after boot everything is fine when I close it. When I wake it up and close it again I can hear the Drive being shut down but fan and led stay on. Opening again shows a black screen, guess it froze during initialization of power save mode.
[09:26] <computer> EriC^^: seems enabled
[09:26] <computer> EriC^^: checks updates daily
[09:27] <computer> EriC^^: multiverse enabled
[09:27] <computer> EriC^^: it is already enabled
[09:27] <varaindemian> after "$ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS" I got gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>"
[09:27] <Sl4ck> .
[09:27] <EriC^^> computer: ok, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:29] <kisb> install chrome and pepperflash
[09:30] <bekks> Chrome comes with pepperflash, already.
[09:30] <computer> EriC^^: done
[09:30] <varaindemian> anyone?
[09:30] <computer> EriC^^: i get a package configuration
[09:31] <guest-1ahh6b> I am an idiot. Why doesn't my Hp printer just scan when i push the scan button? Why do I need apple or microsoft only software to scan? Why isn't it just push and scan, like the pdf button on libre office?
[09:31] <phaze75> Good morning, I have a dns resolving issue concerning hosts of my local intarnet doamin
[09:31] <EriC^^> computer: ok, configure it
[09:31] <phaze75> dns-search is set to "example.local"
[09:32] <computer> EriC^^: it broke, the ok button has diassapeared
[09:32] <kisb> for use in firefox
[09:33] <computer> EriC^^: its back again now but i cannot click it
[09:33] <phaze75> dns-nameserver is set to the dns ip
[09:33] <EriC^^> computer: try pressing tab
[09:33] <phaze75> hosts contains the hostname and the intranet fqdn
[09:33] <computer> EriC^^: ok
[09:33] <bekks> phaze75: And whats the issue?
[09:36] <phaze75> bekks: i cannot resolve other hosts within the intranet based on their intranet fqdn. e.g. if i try to ping them i get a "ping: unknown host oracle.suit.local"
[09:36] <miklcct> have you set up dns server properly?
[09:36] <bekks> phaze75: So does the nameserver know about that host? Does it have a record for it?
[09:37] <phaze75> bekks, miklcct: yes, all the host entries are made
[09:37] <phaze75> actually it is a windows server dns
[09:38] <miklcct> try typing `host oracle.suit.local` in the terminal
[09:38] <phaze75> and i use a dns forwareder via pfsense
[09:38] <bekks> phaze75: On that DNS server, does resolving a fqdn work?
[09:38] <Kartagis> hello
[09:38] <Sl4ck> Does anyone know which one is the file I can monitor with tail command to see if I am tracked in  the network?
[09:38] <Kartagis> ubuntu 14.04
[09:38] <bekks> Sl4ck: there is no such facility.
[09:38] <Kartagis>  no videos
[09:38] <phaze75> miklcct: that works
[09:38] <bekks> Sl4ck: You cannot detect wether you are tracked.
[09:38] <Kartagis> help?
[09:39] <mirrit> audio works within a game and it wont work on fifrefox :/
[09:39] <miklcct> phaze75: how about `dig oracle.suit.local` ?
[09:40] <Sl4ck> bekks: what Linux distro you use?
[09:40] <phaze75> miklcct: works
[09:40] <bekks> Sl4ck: How does that matter?
[09:40] <Sl4ck> bekks: just asking
[09:41] <miklcct> phaze75: Do you have an DNS resolver cache? If so clear it
[09:41] <bekks> Sl4ck: Guess which one, being in an Ubuntu channel.
[09:41] <Kartagis> ubuntu 14.04, chrome, no video youtube or otherwise. help?
[09:41] <Kartagis> bekks: uhm, Fedora?
[09:41] <alkisg> Kartagis: enable the "partner" repository and install "adobe-flashplugin"
[09:41] <Kartagis> hth
[09:42] <computer> EriC^^: ok it finished installing, what now?
[09:42] <bekks> alkisg: Pepperflash is already shipped with Chrome.
[09:42] <phaze75> miklcct: i already cleared the cache of the windows dns server. do I have caches also in the ubuntu client and the pfsense dns forwarder?
[09:42] <miklcct> computer: open chrome
[09:42] <miklcct> phaze75: yes, clear all caches in your network
[09:42] <alkisg> bekks: ah sorry I don't use chrome and I'm always reading that as "chromium", Kartagis sorry ignore my remark
[09:42] <computer> i dont have chrome just fire fox, will it work with fire fox?
[09:43] <bekks> computer: if you installed the pepperflash plugin, it will.
[09:43] <miklcct> computer: enable partner repository and install adobe-flashplugin
[09:43] <miklcct> the pepper flash does not work with firefox
[09:43] <bekks> It does.
[09:43] <kisb> it does
[09:43]  * alkisg doesn't think so
[09:43] <alkisg> Unless you use the wrapper
[09:44] <computer> EriC^^: ok it works
[09:44] <bekks> alkisg: Which makes it work in firefox. QED.
[09:44] <Sl4ck> bekks: Than if you use ubuntu you need to know as where is a shell there is a way. you should get dipper onto the linux mistery and you gonna find out how many incredible things you can do with Linux command line. Even other doesn't belive there is no facility to monitor via shell to see if you are tracked... Belive me always there is a way on linux, and I recomend you when you to get to the next level and use Slackware. Slackware will help you to have a better 
[09:44] <alkisg> bekks: it's an experimental plugin and only works in limited scenarios
[09:44] <alkisg> It's not a recommented way to use flash
[09:44] <bekks> Sl4ck: There is no way to see it. Seems like you arent using Linux that long, dont you?
[09:44] <computer> EriC^^: so what is the issue with the software centre? there are many applications that are missing
[09:44] <alkisg> pepper is for chrom*, npapi for firefox
[09:44] <Kartagis> by the way, videos work in firefox (not 1:1 though)
[09:45] <kisb> lol its recommended NOT to use flash anyways
[09:45] <bekks> alkisg: Adobe Flash is not developed anymore. So Pepperflash is your only way to go.
[09:45] <alkisg> firefox doesn't support pepper
[09:46] <alkisg> A third party developer has an experimental wrapper for firefox to use pepper, not many people use that one
[09:46] <kisb> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/10/ipepper-flash-for-firefox-ubuntu-15-10/
[09:46] <Kartagis> bekks: should I install pepper too? chrome://plugins report Adobe Flash Player
[09:46] <Kartagis> reports*
[09:46] <bekks> Kartagis: I'd not use Adbobe Flash anymore.
[09:47] <computer> bekks: i hate flash, it is so stupid, i people who use it are more stupid
[09:47] <EriC^^> computer: no idea
[09:47] <miklcct> but it is a necessity to play flash games
[09:47] <bekks> computer: Take your rants elsewhere. Offline preferably.
[09:48] <phaze75> miklcct: done in ubuntu and pfsense. no effect.
[09:48] <phaze75> miklcct: btw: windows clients are doing fine
[09:48] <kisb> and watch illegal videos
[09:48] <miklcct> phaze75: that means you can 'host', 'dig' but not 'ping' it?
[09:48] <miklcct> phase75: how about traceroute?
[09:49] <bekks> phaze75: If you cannot "ping" it, enable ICMP responses.
[09:49] <bekks> phaze75: Thats not a DNS issue then.
[09:50] <phaze75> miklcct: tracerout does not work
[09:51] <bekks> phaze75: because it is named traceroute
[09:51] <miklcct> can you paste the output of traceroute?
[09:51] <phaze75> bekks: i can ping oracel.suit.local from my xen host
[09:51] <bekks> phaze75: So DNS is working.
[09:51] <alkisg> .local might be provided by avahi
[09:52] <phaze75> bekks: yes
[09:52] <bekks> phaze75: No fix your ICMP settings :)
[09:57] <phaze75> bekks: oracle cannot be resolved, not by ping and not by e.g. w3m. see w3m: "w3m: Can't load oracle.suit.local.
[09:57] <phaze75> ", ping: "ping: unknown host oracle.suit.local"
[09:58] <bekks> phaze75: unknown host means your DNS is NOT working.
[09:58] <bekks> phaze75: Did you try from a host next to your DNS server, without using your DNS forwarder?
[09:59] <phaze75> bekks: the dns server (windows) and the dns forwarder (pfsense) are working with my xen und windows hosts. but not with ubuntu. so it is a dns problem with ubuntu.
[10:00] <bekks> phaze75: Do you have the same problem when using Ubuntu next to your DNS server, without your forwarder?
[10:03] <decci> nrpe dead but subsys locked
[10:03] <phaze75> bekks: bypassing the dns forwarder does not solve the problem for ubuntu
[10:05] <alkisg> phaze75: .local is a special name for ubuntu, it's used by avahi for local multicast dns, did you try other addresses than .local?
[10:05] <phaze75> bekks: nsswitch.conf is standard: "hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns"
[10:06] <bekks> phaze75: so you are using avahi, which catched .local already.
[10:08] <phaze75> alkisg, bekks: resolving external hosts works, also static entries of the dns forwarder
[10:08] <bekks> phaze75: And you are still using Avahi, which catches .local
[10:08] <phaze75> bekks: obviously
[10:09] <phaze75> bekks: what can i do?
[10:09] <bekks> phaze75: "< alkisg> phaze75: .local is a special name for ubuntu, it's used by avahi for local multicast dns, did you try other addresses than .local?".
[10:09] <bekks> phaze75: Basically, use another TLD, rather than .local
[10:12] <phaze75> bekks: impossible, this the windows domain since 10 years. I never had issues with redhat, fedora, centos...
[10:13] <bekks> phaze75: Because redhat, fedora, centos, ... dont use avahi.
[10:13] <bekks> phaze75: All you could do is disabling avahi, and running into other issues, likely.
[10:13] <alkisg> There's a note for .local domains in the avahi documentation
[10:13] <alkisg> man avahi or somewhere
[10:14] <alkisg> It mentions what to do if you're running a .local domain locally, so as not to conflict with avahi
[10:16] <phaze75> alkisg: thanks, I see
[10:18] <phaze75> bekks, alkisg: thanks for pointing me to avahi. it took me hours of troubleshooting already.
[10:33] <troulouliou_div2> hi is there an official repo for openjdk 7 on 16.04 ; it seems it is missing in the official 16.04
[10:37] <alkisg> phaze75: the documentation about .local is at http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal
[10:44] <bekks> !info openjdk-7 xenial
[10:45] <bekks> troulouliou_div2: openjdk-7 does not exist anymore, in xenial, there is only -8 and -9
[10:45] <XLRAndroid> Hello there guys. I am running Ubuntu 16.04 using the open source AMD drivers that come with pre-installed. I have Team installed and whenever I run DoTa, it says running but I do not see any windows displaying the game, nor do I see a new icon on my left hand dock/taskbar. ANy help would be extrememly appreciated and would help me out a lot.
[10:50] <michiel_> hi Folks
[10:50] <michiel_> I can't install Chrome on 16.04.
[10:50] <michiel_> Install button does nothing...
[10:51] <EriC^^> michael_mbp: go to google.com and download the latest chrome
[10:51] <bekks> michiel: So got to https://www.google.com/intl/en-US/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html and download/install
[10:51] <Guest29742> It doesn't work...
[10:52] <Guest29742> the install button doesn't work.
[10:52] <EriC^^> Guest29742: download it and double click it
[10:52] <Guest29742> it's a serious bug in 16.04 if i can't install chrome
[10:52] <bekks> There is not bug.
[10:52] <bekks> Download and doubleclick.
[10:52] <EriC^^> Guest29742: try to open a terminal and type sudo dpkg -i ~/google-chrome...deb or ~/Downloads/google-chrome-...deb
[10:54] <Guest29742> npacking google-chrome-stable (50.0.2661.94-1) ...
[10:54] <Guest29742> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of google-chrome-stable:
[10:54] <Guest29742>  google-chrome-stable depends on libappindicator1; however:
[10:54] <Guest29742>   Package libappindicator1 is not installed.
[10:54] <Guest29742> dpkg: error processing package google-chrome-stable (--install):
[10:54] <Guest29742>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:54] <EriC^^> !paste | Guest29742
[10:54] <EriC^^> Guest29742: try sudo apt-get install libappindicator1
[10:54] <EriC^^> !info libappindicator1
[10:54] <ducasse> Guest29742: use gdebi to install, it will fulfill dependencies
[10:55] <Guest29742> that doesn't work for me either
[10:55] <EriC^^> Guest29742: sudo apt-get install libappindicator1 ?
[10:55] <alkisg> Guest29742: do you have 32bit or 64bit ubuntu installation?
[10:56] <Guest29742> well i fixed it, stupid bgs
[10:57] <Guest29742> it should just work out of the box , by clicking the "install" button...
[10:57] <Guest29742> sudo apt-get -f install
[10:58] <hem0> ..
[11:00] <Guest29742> I'm an experienced user, image a noob trying linux..
[11:01] <Guest29742> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-deb-software-install-error
[11:06] <Guest29742> how this can slip into an LTS release is beyond imagining....
[11:07] <alkisg> Guest29742: google chrome is *not* part of ubuntu
[11:07] <alkisg> It's a product of google...
[11:07] <Guest29742> But installing third party apps is part of Ubuntu
[11:07] <alkisg> And?
[11:07] <Guest29742> And that feature is broken.
[11:07] <alkisg> Right, so report it to google
[11:08] <Guest29742> *NO* third party apps can be installed through the software installer. That is not Google's fault.
[11:08] <Guest29742> Rather, a bug in Ubuntu.
[11:08] <Guest29742> One that has been reported in the media at least 2 days ago, and still no fix available.
[11:09] <kisb> use gdebi
[11:09] <kisb> really most long time ubuntu users aren't using the software center
[11:09] <alkisg> The media isn't where bugs are filed... there are bug trackers for this
[11:10] <jeffrey> hello room
[11:10] <Guest29742> If it reaches the media, you can be sure Canonical does something wrong in their testing..
[11:10] <jeffrey> is there a way to change the background color of an application in linux
[11:10] <keenor> Dear ubuntu people, I need some real help. I have an Issue where my web browser firefox/chrome/chromium is very slow... it lags loading a page and resolving and searching, YET: when I close browser and reload it is fine! 15.10 x64
[11:11] <Guest29742> keenor, do you have enough memory?
[11:11] <alkisg> Guest29742: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573408 ==> fix released
[11:12] <kisb> jeffrey, you can customize in preferences
[11:12] <keenor> Guest29742: I have 32GB
[11:13] <jeffrey> kisb, do I have to running debian linux straight
[11:13] <jeffrey>  I am using linux mint
[11:13] <keenor> I have read that sometimes its an error with ubuntu search addon, which I turned off
[11:13] <keenor> I also read that it could be to do with dnsmasq
[11:14] <jeffrey> if I have to get debian, I will
[11:15] <Guest29742> I recommend to install something stable like RHEL.
[11:15] <ldsh> Hi, I've made the upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, and now have the new software manager. I'm a bit surprised to see on it an update (1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1) that I don't see in the update manager. How comes? Should I use the new software manager to do the updates instead? Can I safely uninstall the previous software manager?
[11:16] <kisb> jeffrey, am on ubuntu mate so am not sure what its called in mint but its a gtk thing. just right click on desktop where theres backgrounds and other settings
[11:16] <ldsh> Forget to precise, I'm using ubuntu gnome (official variant)
[11:16] <kisb> change is for all apps
[11:17] <jeffrey> there is settings, kisb
[11:17] <lionelmessi5102> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 but when I try to boot it stuck on a black screen with: /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks
[11:17] <jeffrey> and I have gone there and tried everything
[11:20] <lionelmessi5102> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 but when I try to boot it stuck on a black screen with: /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks
[11:22] <xcell> hi
[11:23] <xcell> exit
[11:24] <kisb> its /part
[11:24] <lionelmessi5102> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 but when I try to boot it stuck on a black screen with: /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks
[11:29] <ldsh> And "apt upgrade" show me 10 package to upgrade.
[11:31] <Garethp> Hey all, I'm having a weird problem with my mouse over two installs (Ubuntu 15.10 and Ubuntu 16.04) and two different mice that work on different computers and the same computer with a different OS (Windows 10 as Dual Boot). The closest I can describe is... Unity doesn't release the mouse focus?
[11:31] <Garethp> On boot, if I open chrome or any other application, my mouse doesn't want to interact with it. Mouse clicks don't work, scroll doesn't work, hovering over links doesn't change the icon
[11:32] <Garethp> But I can interact with the main OS. I can click on the power button, I can click on the menu or open other applications
[11:32] <Garethp> When I click on the power button, then click in to Chrome it'll work
[11:32] <Guest71434> te
[11:32] <de-facto> are you using nvidia drivers?
[11:32] <Garethp> I am
[11:32] <de-facto> which ones?
[11:33] <Garethp> 361 it looks like
[11:33] <Garethp> Should I swap to xserver?
[11:33] <de-facto> what you mean, arent you using XServer?
[11:34] <Garethp> In aditional drivers, it says I can choose between Nvidia 361 drivers (which is selected), OR X Server Drivers
[11:34] <Garethp> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[11:34] <de-facto> i heard of some mouse problems with nvidia-304 solution was to use nvidia-340 on that device
[11:34] <Dev__> Hi, is there some gui utility to disable or edit mouse acceleration in Ubuntu 16.04? (The setting doesnt exists)
[11:35] <Garethp> I'll give 340 a shot
[11:35] <de-facto> Garethp the nouveau are the open source drivers, if they work fine for you, congratz, if you need gaming grade performance you probably want the proprietary ones
[11:35] <de-facto> it always depends on your gfx chip though
[11:36] <pedrocr> for some reason 14.04 isn't offering me a 16.04 upgrade
[11:36] <Garethp> I'm not sure if they work for me, they're just there. I'm not here for gaming grade, just for faster C++ and PHP performance while devving at home
[11:36] <pedrocr> doing a slow migration?
[11:36] <de-facto> !ltsupgrade | pedrocr
[11:36] <pedrocr> ubottu: is it possible to force it now?
[11:37] <Garethp> I'll install nvidia-340, then play around with which is best and report back
[11:37] <Garethp> Thanks
[11:37] <de-facto> good luck
[11:37] <Garethp> I hadn't considered that prop graphics drivers would cause mouse issues
[11:38] <de-facto> Garethp you might want to play with "xev" to watch mouse events
[11:39] <Garethp> Will give it a shot after reboot
[11:43] <ubuntu146> hello İ computer error boot (/dev/sda1: clean, 121563/920272 files, 701079/3680256 blocks)
[11:45] <de-facto> ubuntu146 yeah but we need more info for helping you
[11:50] <durgeoble> hi
[11:51] <Dev_> Hi, is there any app with gui to disable or edit mouse acceleration in Ubuntu 16.04?
[11:54] <Garethp> Well, that didn't work. Tried rebooting with open source drivers, remembered why I'm using Nvidia ones. Black screen
[11:54] <Garethp> Tried a nomodeset boot, which got me to login screen then went black screen after login
[11:55] <vkr> Hi All
[11:57] <durgeoble> hi, i want to put lubuntu in a bootable USB key and at the same time virtualice in any other pc the system so i can access anywhere, tried lili usb creator, works on windows, but dont boot and dont know how to virtualice in other linux or mac
[12:01] <blissi> !ops
[12:01] <kevin123> Dev_ you can disable it in xorg.conf
[12:14] <Dev_> kevin123 thanks! how?
[12:14] <devo> can someone help me installing packages on ubuntu 16.04?
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[12:15] <Dev_> devo sudo apt-get install package_name
[12:15] <devo> im getting too many errors i know the command DEV
[12:15] <devo> im getting version errors
[12:15] <devo> trying to downgrade
[12:15] <devo> then I get new error
[12:15] <Dev_> kevin123 thank you!
[12:15] <kevin123> np
[12:16] <Dev_> devo what error do you get?
[12:16] <devo> dependency errors,  let me tell you one
[12:16] <devo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:17] <devo> I try to install that the dependent package gives another dependency error
[12:17] <kevin123> did you add a external repository?
[12:17] <devo> I did
[12:18] <kevin123> it might have too old or too new packages which is causing the issue
[12:19] <devo> what should I do now :)
[12:19] <devo> I removed some of the packages and now I don't know which are missing
[12:20] <devo> I need these packages " apt-get install lzop bison gperf build-essential zlib1g-dev zlib1g-dev:i386 g++-multilib libxml2-utils  bzip2 libbz2-dev libbz2-1.0 libghc-bzlib-dev libsepol1-dev dpkg-dev make libncurses5-dev ccache"
[12:20] <kevin123> I'm not sure, sorry, I had similar issues when adding the mariadb repository, was too much time lost so I wiped the VM
[12:20] <devo> damn thats why I dont like linux
[12:21] <kevin123> it's more of an issue with the package manager in ubuntu than linux
[12:29] <kappauni> Fala ae
[12:29] <kappauni> Tudo bem ?
[12:38] <jp_> Computer crashed using Ubuntu 16.04.  Computer issue not Operating system.  Now on Lubuntu but my memory stick has lost+found about 4k, with 38 megs info not accesible
[12:39] <jophish> how can I check how a hostname is being looked up?
[12:39] <Whir> jophish: tracerout
[12:39] <Whir> *traceroute
[12:40] <sidud> can we install ubuntu through a USB with ISO file
[12:41] <sidud> hey guys can we install ubuntu through a USB with ISO file??????
[12:41] <jophish> Whir: that was the first thing I tried however traceroute6 is unable to resolve the hostname
[12:41] <pintman> When considering DNS, you can use 'dig +trace google.com'
[12:41] <jophish> ping *can* however
[12:41] <rdark> Any idea why apt-cache policy $package is not showing a version that is actually in the repository?
[12:43] <kappauni> HI
[12:43] <kappauni> my mouse has been stoped.
[12:43] <rdark> (I'm trying to downgrade a package that someone mistakenly upgraded via apt-get dist-upgrade, and whoever installed that specific version of the package didn't pin it..)
[12:43] <kappauni> Please help me
[12:43] <kappauni> My mouse is microsoft 2000
[12:45] <devo> clear
[12:49] <jp_> somebody please tell me where to go to get help on issue I listed
[12:51] <Quellel> Sziasztok, egy drupal modul teszteléshez egy hétre ki tudna adni drupal hosztingot?
[12:54] <jp_> thanks
[12:56] <lionelmessi5102> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 16.04, but after I boot it stuck on black screen with /dev/sda1: clean, 122846/2383872 files, 883865/9526016 blocks
[13:04] <ksft> can someone help me get my custom keyboard configuration to work?
[13:08] <alby> qq
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> ksft  define 'custom keyboard'
[13:10] <ksft> MonkeyDust: custom keyboard configuration
[13:10] <ksft> layout
[13:11] <ksft> I put a file in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, and I edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml
[13:11] <ksft> I can add it to the list in the system settings thing, but when I select it, it doesn't actually change keyboard layouts
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> ksft  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions?action=show&redirect=Howto%3A+Custom+keyboard+layout+definitions
[13:13] <marius_> good day MATE!
[13:13] <ksft> MonkeyDust: I've seen that
[13:13] <marius_> ubuntu mate is my current distro
[13:14] <ksft> I created the layout a different way, but that isn't relevant
[13:14] <marius_> comment to the start screen downloading thingy... should get a full list that patiently downloads everything
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> ksft  then you should start from the beginning, what have you tried so far and what goes wrong
[13:14] <firman> hay, anybody know how to rename and re-configure encfs folder? i missing some config at first time
[13:14] <ksft> MonkeyDust: I have the file in xkb/symbols/
[13:14] <ksft> it just doesn't work when I try to select it
[13:15] <grobda24> Hi, I thought I'd completely removed Pulseaudio but something still seems to be in there and I've had problems with defaulkt audio devices. For example "mpg123" still selects Pulse as the default (even though "mpv" does not but it might check then skip it). Also things like "pacmd list-cards" still work which is a PA command. How do I completely remove and block PA. I do not want it !
[13:17] <jophish> I can send mail to a user on localhost, but I'm unable to send mail to a VM which I share a network with
[13:17] <jophish> what must I do to enable this?
[13:18] <ksft> MonkeyDust: can you help?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> grobda24  use synaptic to look for everything you want to remove, some packages point to each other
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> ksft  i'm not familiar with it, address the channel
[13:18] <ksft> okay, can anyone else help me?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> ksft  that's not the correct way ... repeat your question every 15 minutes, until someone enters who can help
[13:19] <ksft> okay
[13:20] <ksft> it's been about fifteen minutes since last time I asked it
[13:20] <ksft> can someone help me get my custom keyboard configuration to work?
[13:21] <marius_> yeeeeeez... im having the same problem.. lets see
[13:22] <ksft> marius_: as me?
[13:22] <marius_> aye
[13:22] <marius_> what language_
[13:22] <marius_> ?
[13:22] <ksft> Lojban
[13:22] <marius_> hold on im waiting for spotify to install so i can root
[13:24] <marius_> ok
[13:24] <marius_> æøå
[13:24] <marius_> there
[13:24] <marius_> just add your keyboard all over
[13:24] <ksft> all over?
[13:24] <ksft> what?
[13:25] <marius_> system -> hardware -> keyboard
[13:25] <marius_> you see your language there
[13:25] <marius_> right?
[13:25] <ksft> "hardware"?
[13:25] <ksft> I'm using Unity, btw
[13:25] <marius_> yeah.. i use norwegian
[13:25] <marius_> ahh.. i have mate
[13:25] <ksft> oh, it's in the "Hardware" section
[13:25] <ksft> it should work either way
[13:26] <ksft> I see the keyboard in the list there
[13:26] <ksft> I added it to the list of selected keyboards
[13:26] <marius_> right... anyway you should see your keyboard setting there.. add your correct keyboard (language) over again, and delete the old one.. then test it
[13:26] <ksft> okay...
[13:26] <marius_> should work now
[13:26] <ksft> I can't do that
[13:26] <ksft> it doesn't show up in the list if I've already added that
[13:26] <ksft> s/that/it
[13:27] <marius_> hmmm
[13:28] <marius_> thing here i noticed is its a bug
[13:28] <marius_> when you install keyboard at setup, it still will go english on me
[13:28] <marius_> so i have to re-do it after install
[13:28] <marius_> but then it works
[13:28] <ksft> after installing whaT?
[13:28] <marius_> after installing linux
[13:28] <ksft> what?*
[13:29] <ksft> huh?
[13:29] <marius_> you talk about keyboard as in æøå right.. not midi keyboard you play music on?
[13:29] <ksft> yeah'
[13:29] <ksft> yeah*
[13:29] <ksft> it's not a new physical keyboard
[13:29] <marius_> right.. so you have english keyboard layout?
[13:29] <ksft> it's a keyboard layout
[13:29] <ksft> yeah
[13:29] <ksft> that's the default
[13:29] <marius_> exactly
[13:29] <ksft> so what do I do?
[13:29] <marius_> so the problem is you cant find your language?
[13:30] <ksft> I made a custom keyboard layout for it
[13:30] <marius_> there is keyboard settings somewhere in your menus .. if you had mate it would be easier
[13:30] <ksft> when I select it, it still uses the English layout
[13:30] <ksft> I understand that
[13:30] <ksft> I found the keyboard settings
[13:30] <marius_> yeah when you installed ubuntu?
[13:30] <marius_> ok
[13:30] <ksft> I selected the custom keyboad layout
[13:30] <marius_> and saved it?
[13:30] <ksft> sure, yeah
[13:30] <bodom> does anybody know a way to create a filesystem in a dynamic size file?
[13:31] <marius_> delete the old layout thats there
[13:31] <marius_> re-add the custom layout
[13:31] <ksft> there isn't anything to save, but I closed the settings window
[13:31] <ksft> you can't remove a layout if there's only one
[13:31] <marius_> it says you have a custom layout, like mine said i had norwegian keyboard, but i still had english keyboard
[13:31] <marius_> add another... delete the one thats there
[13:31] <marius_> random one
[13:31] <marius_> or make a custom one, so you have 2 keyboard layouts
[13:31] <marius_> then delete the one on the bottom
[13:31] <marius_> sucks but this is a bug
[13:32] <ksft> I can select ones that come with it
[13:32] <ksft> like Norwegian
[13:32] <ksft> ææøø--.,å¨
[13:32] <marius_> yep.. but your language was something else.. la.. something
[13:32] <sarbojit> Hi guys anyone knows the ubuntu kernel team's IRC channel ?
[13:32] <ksft> I can't use my custom layout, though
[13:32] <ksft> Lojban
[13:32] <sarbojit> thanks in advance for you help...
[13:32] <marius_> what country is that?
[13:32] <ksft> ...Lojbanistan?
[13:32] <ksft> it's a constructed language
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> sarbojit  #ubuntu-kernel
[13:33] <marius_> uhm.. ok
[13:33] <ksft> don't worry about it
[13:33] <sarbojit> thanks a bunch MonkeyDust
[13:33] <grobda24> MonkeyDust: yes, http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/pulseaudio ... tried removing "libpulse0" but that tries to remove everything, desktop environments and a lot more. I'll try others.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:35] <BuDy> hi
[13:36] <zykotick9> grobda24: are you _sure_ you want to remove pulse?  note, gnome depdends on it (i'm not sure about kde/xfce, they also might?)
[13:36] <grobda24> MonkeyDust: seems to have got everything else apart fomr that library. I wonder if there are some package errors not resetting things back to what they should be. Somewhere the audio default is still set to pulse <releases sniffer dog>
[13:38] <BuDy> do you know a french chat
[13:38] <zykotick9> !fr | BuDy
[13:38] <BuDy> thank
[13:39] <ubuntu892> Hey there, anyone has installed Ubuntu 16.04 Dual Boot with Windows 10?
[13:40] <BuDy> join #ubuntu - fr
[13:40] <zykotick9> grobda24: i'd strongly suggest running "apt-cache rdepends libpulse0" and check if you can really live without all those programs!  i don't run pulse, but i've not libpulse0 installed!
[13:41] <zykotick9> s/i've not/i've got/
[13:41] <ksft> hah!
[13:41] <ksft> I DID IT
[13:42] <ksft> I made a mistake and had two characters in a row for one of the keys
[13:42] <ksft> apparently that isn't allowed, but I just got the super helpful message "Error loading new keyboard description"
[13:50] <lerner> sudo iftop -F wlan0 should show in and outcomming traffic for wlan0, correct?
[13:51]  * grobda24 <sniffer dog returns>
[13:51] <Hydr0p0nX> can anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf dvds report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount, unless I manually mount it
[13:52] <grobda24> MonkeyDust: Hah ! Found it: "$ cat /etc/libao.conf ... default_driver=pulse ... quiet". Change "pulse" to "default" and the sound then plays.
[13:57] <lian> what is here?
[13:59] <akik> lian: ubuntu support by volunteers
[13:59] <mark999> When I try to uninstall firefox or thunderbird I get a message that Mate desktop will be uninstalled.  Can I not uninstall these?
[14:00] <baizon> mark999: this are meta packages
[14:00] <baizon> mark999: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[14:00] <Myrtti> mark999: you can, they're only meta-packages. Just keep in mind that when you want to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu, it will be a good idea to install those in before doing an upgrade.
[14:01] <mark999> OK, thank you.  I'll research MetaPackages but will leave them if they're important.
[14:01] <zykotick9> mark999: and _never_ run "sudo apt-get autoremove" after, or your DE will be removed :|
[14:03] <mark999> zykotick9:  OK, good to know.  I will make a note of that.  Thanks!
[14:04] <tambu> Hey folks, I installed Kubuntu to try it out.. but I think I'd like to switch back to Ubuntu.. can I just remove the kubuntu packages and install some sort of ubuntu packages to make the switch or is it more complicated?
[14:04] <zykotick9> mark999: probably after every apt run, you get a list of things apt wants to remove, and will suggest the autoremove...  "breaking" meta packages isn't the greatest idea, why do you want to remove firefox/thunderbird?  do you _really_ need the space?
[14:05] <EriC^^> tambu: if you just installed, i'd just fresh install ubuntu
[14:05] <tambu> EriC^^ :( I'd prefer to avoid that if possible.. I have it setup as a server with a lot of configuration.. multi-nic/webserver/nzb etc
[14:05] <mark999> zykotick9: I won't use them but got a message that updates needed to be downloaded.
[14:06] <grobda24> tambu: you should be able to swtich to normal Ubuntu at the login screen.
[14:06] <EriC^^> tambu
[14:06] <zykotick9> mark999: well, it's certainly "up to you", but leaving them might be the easiest... ymmv.
[14:06] <mark999> zykotick9: Yes, I am going to leave them now.  Thank you.
[14:06] <EriC^^> tambu: yeah you can remove them
[14:07] <EriC^^> i thought you meant you just installed kubuntu iso
[14:07] <Finetundra> Anyone know if I'd be able to get KDE 5 on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:07] <tambu> grobda24: I don't see any options to switch from KDE at the GUI login
[14:07] <EriC^^> tambu: it should be to the right somewhere i think
[14:08] <zykotick9> tambu: have you installed the ubuntu-desktop package?
[14:08] <deadmund> I have found this displaylink driver for my usb monitor: http://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu   and I had it working on 14.04 (which is supported).  Anybody willing to help be get it working in ubuntu 16.04?
[14:08] <deadmund> It isntalls fine but complains about the kernel version.
[14:09] <tambu> zykotick9: no I installed Kubuntu as the system install so I was hoping there was a way to "switch" to using" Gnome KDE isn't for me.. I'd like to remove KDE if it can be done safely too.
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Finetundra  with a ppa, several howto's can be found, here's one http://askubuntu.com/questions/492599/how-to-install-and-test-kde-plasma-5-on-ubuntu-14-04
[14:10] <tambu> perhaps I should upgrade to 16.04 first
[14:10] <zykotick9> tambu: i'd suggest installing the "ubuntu-desktop" meta-package, which will install everything that comes with default "ubuntu"... then switch to it from the login screen.
[14:10] <tambu> zykotick9: hrm ok thank u I will give that a go
[14:11] <viju> Why can't I hibernate?
[14:11] <viju> Ubuntu 16 here.
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> viju  use pm-hibernate
[14:12] <wafflej0ck> tambu, Ubuntu uses Unity for the DE by default now too but there is an Ubuntu Gnome version if you want Gnome 3 or ubuntu-mate but believe ubuntu-mate has it's own support channel
[14:12] <viju> MonkeyDust: I want some kind of button that'd allow me to hibernate.
[14:12] <zykotick9> viju: "sudo systemctl hibernate" is the systemd based version, have you tried that?  hibernate on ubuntu are sketchy sometimes - good luck.
[14:12] <viju> I had done it in ubuntu 12.04, just not sure how.
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> viju  use a custom keyboard shortcut, that executes pm-hibernate ... use visudo to override root permission
[14:13] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: do you happen to know, does "systemctl hibernate" work on ubuntu without sudo?
[14:14] <Finetundra> MonkeyDust:
[14:14] <Finetundra> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next'.
[14:14] <Finetundra> Please check that the PPA name or format is correct.
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Finetundra  better contact the ppa maintainer
[14:16] <viju> I guess this is the one I used http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/
[14:16] <viju> What do you think about the last part zykotick9
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  it asked the passowrd, just tried
[14:17] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: thanks, good to know.  /me used an arch-based distro where it wasn't required, it shocked me..
[14:19] <zykotick9> viju: sorry, as far as enabling "hibernate" in the menu, i have NO idea....  best of luck.
[14:30] <aguitel> how to convert dvd files to mkv ?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  try winff
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  or devede
[14:31] <aguitel> ok
[14:31] <shiori> aguitel, i think handbrake can do this
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> that makes three options
[14:32] <aguitel> i have the dvd files in my hd
[14:32] <aguitel> no dvd with me
[14:33] <Defiance_> aguitel: have you tried handbrake?
[14:33] <aguitel> never
[14:33] <destiny> hello
[14:33] <aguitel> i will try
[14:35] <gruppo1> Ciao!
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> !it | gruppo1
[14:36] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I upgrade to 16.04 without reinstalling OS ?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> KeyboardNotFound: from wich version?
[14:36] <KeyboardNotFound> 15.10
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> KeyboardNotFound: you can upgrade yes, but always make a backup first
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> KeyboardNotFound: what graphics card chipset do you have?
[14:38] <viju> Last time it was Empathy, before that it was Pidgin, which multiprotocol supporting IM is good?
[14:38] <KeyboardNotFound> lotuspsychje, AMD Radeon
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> KeyboardNotFound: you have the radeon driver active or fglrx?
[14:39] <KeyboardNotFound> lotuspsychje, I'm using integrated graphics card
[14:39] <Harris> hi
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> KeyboardNotFound: is it hybrid?
[14:40] <Harris> I'm having an issue with login
[14:40] <Harris> can anyone help
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Harris
[14:41] <Harris> ok so I'm trying to login on ubuntuforums. I already have an ubuntuone account, to which I'm already logged in. After I click " complete registration " it says " Your username cannot be longer than 25 characters." but my username isn't longer than 25 characters ... I can't find a contact link or something to get it sorted.
[14:43] <wafflej0ck> Harris, see the contact an admin section here most likely someone there can help http://ubuntuforums.org/faq.php?faq=vb3_reading_posting#faq_vb3_contact_admin
[14:44] <Harris> ok, is this the adress? ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com
[14:47] <ProficientWombat> So I heard that you can finally move the Unity launcher to the bottom of the display in 16.04.
[14:47] <wafflej0ck> Harris, yeah appears so apparently trying to avoid bots scraping for e-mails there's also the link there for Ubuntu One single sign on support, not sure anyone in the chat here admins or works directly on the forum (maybe but haven't seen much chat about it)
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> ProficientWombat  in 16.04 ... gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom
[14:49] <neyder1> hello
[14:49] <neyder1> xchat isn't available in 16.04, can you recommend a new irc client? pidgin isn't good enpugh
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> !irc | neyder1
[14:50] <squinty> hexchat
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | neyder1
[14:50] <Harris> icechat
[14:51] <neyder1> i'll try hexchat
[14:52] <curlyears> greets
[14:53] <Harris> I think I'm going to install ubuntu or something
[14:54] <Harris> been having issues with lubuntu :(
[14:54] <neyder_> Thanks bros
[14:54] <Harris> I can't install a language pack " Check your internet connection "
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> Harris  great, you're already in the correct channel
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | Harris have a pick
[14:55] <jeffo> so many! hard to pick one without trying them all
[14:55] <Harris> I've used Ubuntu before, I just thought of trying something new and maybe more lightweight
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> jeffo: check the website first
[14:55] <curlyears> jeffo: so many what?
[14:55] <curlyears> ah
[14:56] <jeffo> flavors of ubuntu, i'd like to try running it but don't know where to start
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> jeffo  Harris http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[14:56] <EriC^^> jeffo: install unity, then use virtualbox to test out other desktops
[14:56] <curlyears> I can't say I've heard anything against any of the distros, but ubuntu seems to be a popular favorite
[14:56] <rsully> Has anyone here gotten 16.04 fresh install done with ZFS root? I tried last night but started running into errors and the guide I was using is only like 10% finished I'd guess.
[14:57] <jeffo> gnome looks good
[14:57] <daum_> hey guys i have a ubuntu 14.04 server which has two interfaces one public and one private, both are static ips configured like this: http://pastebin.com/h1Zx0QJ0 .  when i try to ping outside networks it seems to be going over only the internal one, so the destination is unreachable.  Any ideas how to fix that?
[14:57] <jeffo> EriC^^, thank you!
[14:57] <curlyears> jeffo:  I would recommend starting with the plain-vanilla canonical distro.
[14:57] <Harris> I've been pleased with Lubuntu so far, but some things still need work. It kinda feels unfinished
[14:57] <EriC^^> jeffo: no problem!
[14:57] <curlyears> jeffo:  the one from www.ubuntu.com
[14:58] <onano> Harris, if you have a low spec'd system Lubuntu is good
[14:58] <onano> but if you need more finish try xubuntu
[14:58] <onano> it's more polished in terms of UX
[14:58] <Harris> I know, but I'm having trouble getting the German language pack :3
[14:58] <curlyears> onano:  may I request a clarification of the term "finish?"
[14:58] <Harris> it says " check your internet connection " .. but I'm already connected to the internet
[14:59] <jeffo> so, i'm sorry to be so noob but i am going to install this as a second OS that i boot to right?
[14:59] <curlyears> jeffo:  that is up to you, usually
[15:00] <onano> curlyears, Sorry, Poor choice of words polished user interface is what i meant there.
[15:00] <jeffo> i'm also not opposed to just getting rid of windows totally, so could boot right to unity or xubuntu. Never done a dual boot system
[15:00] <curlyears> onano:  s'ok.  thanks
[15:01] <curlyears> jeffo:  persoally, I would shhit-can Winblows.  (disclaimer:  I am a rabid Microsoft/Bill Gates hater)
[15:01] <onano> Harris, try rebooting and then install sometimes this trick works
[15:01] <curlyears> what can I do under 14.04.4 with a .deb file?
[15:02] <deadmund> Is there a standard python module to move the mouse around / get mouse position / click and get clicks?
[15:03] <jeffo> curlyears, the crap with Win 10 has really pushed me over the edge
[15:03] <onano> deadmund, #python is the better place to ask python specific questions
[15:03] <deadmund> oh, haha, wrong channel
[15:03] <deadmund> sorry!
[15:03] <onano> np
[15:03] <curlyears> I have never seen nor used any Winblows past 7
[15:04] <akik> deadmund: https://github.com/rshk/python-libxdo
[15:04] <onano> curlyears, damn! /me looks at my Windows xp past
[15:04] <deadmund> akik: thanks
[15:04] <curlyears> i don't bel;ieve anyone has solved the problem of how to move a mouse under software control (barring the use of a robot)
[15:05] <akik> curlyears: xdotool
[15:05] <curlyears> onano:  I didn't use XP or 7 to any great degree, merely had exposure to them
[15:06] <curlyears> akik:  what is xdotool/
[15:06] <curlyears> ?
[15:06] <Harris> same thing
[15:06] <akik> curlyears: it let's you move the mouse programmatically
[15:06] <Harris> I guess I'll download Ubuntu
[15:06] <Harris> or maybe try a new distro
[15:07] <curlyears> akik:  given that mice don't include any form of propulsion, much less software enabled propulsion, hohw do they accomplish this amazing feat?
[15:08] <akik> curlyears: coding. it's some kind of black magic
[15:08] <curlyears> akik:  I am pretty sure you mean movement of the CURSOR.
[15:08] <curlyears> , not the MOOUSE
[15:08] <sarbojit> I tried sabayon for a while....
[15:08] <Samureus> there's a pesky little nag with nm-applet, you have to get the interface name from "nmcli d" in order for the network monitor applet to work
[15:09] <sarbojit> didn't find it charming enough ... !! :(
[15:09] <akik> there's some kind of sarcasm going on. luckily english is not my first language :)
[15:09] <curlyears> the cursor is on the screen and an indicatr of mouse positiion.  The mouse sits on the tabletop, and is mechanically and manually positioned to conntrol the cursor.
[15:09] <sarbojit> akik, what's your first language
[15:10] <akik> sarbojit: it's off topic for the channel but finnish
[15:10] <sarbojit> hey sorry akik, just was curious!
[15:10] <sarbojit> at my wits end setting up my wifi card in 16.04
[15:11] <sarbojit> it works sometimes and then just goes dead..
[15:11] <faultoverride> Hello,  I am trying to forward X11 through ssh.  Everything appears to be working until a program tries use opengl.  glxgears fails with Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual. glxinfo says it can't find GLX.  I can post more logs to pastebin if any one is willing to help.
[15:11] <sarbojit> till next reboot.
[15:12] <zykotick9> faultoverride: i rather doubt you can do 3d with X11-ssh-forwarding...
[15:12] <curlyears> sarbojit:  seen lots of people in your posaitioon.  I am guessing wireless sup[port is one of the areas of remaining instability, abd among reasons canonical does NOT recommend upgrading at this time
[15:12] <Smatic_1> find : file system loop detectd; '/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl' ispart of the same system loop as
[15:12] <Smatic_1> ?
[15:13] <sarbojit> curlyears, thanks but I just switched from sabayon to 16.04 cause I wanted a decent distro to support my new skylake laptop
[15:13] <fkmdn> help! i installed a jawa app and it looks like c..p! what should i do?
[15:13] <sarbojit> I am fed up switching distros :-(
[15:14] <onano> sarbojit, skylake support is still pretty much WIP atm if i recall correctly
[15:14] <fkmdn> menus and buttons are barely legible
[15:14] <faultoverride> zykotick9 , that was my fear. I wanted to compare the performance to streaming games with the steam app.  Thanks for the input.
[15:14] <Smatic_1> to run ecryptfs-recover-private I get  find : file system loop detectd; '/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl' ispart of the same system loop as
[15:14] <Smatic_1> help\
[15:14] <sarbojit> :-( but does it justify that I will not get a good support for the *this* NW card:? 0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[15:15] <sarbojit> As you can clearly see curlyears, Realtek 8723BE should be well supported.
[15:15] <fkmdn> not only fonts are terrible but dialogs are opened completely offscreen
[15:16] <sarbojit> Sadly it works but after a period of inactvity, it just goes dead.
[15:16] <sarbojit> Until I reboot again.
[15:16] <sarbojit> :-(
[15:16] <curlyears> saboyon:  I think you'd be better off with 14.04.4 LTS
[15:17] <sarbojit> and why do you say so?
[15:17] <sarbojit> Actually you're telling me to downgrade to 14.04.4
[15:18] <Samureus> ubuntu studio is nice, just sayin...
[15:18] <curlyears> sarbojit:  because the developers of 16.04 will tell you flat out it is NOT stable
[15:18] <Olotila> How do I make Nautilus go UP one folder with Backspace?
[15:18] <sarbojit> I see.
[15:18] <akik> sarbojit: there's newer kernels through kernel mainline
[15:18] <sarbojit> Will 14.04.4 support my skylake ?
[15:18] <sarbojit> I guess -no-
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> in 16.04.1 maybe
[15:19] <curlyears> sarbojit:   define "support"
[15:19] <sarbojit> in that case I need to do an *extra* work setting it up. -
[15:19] <akik> sarbojit: i have a skylake in acer f5-572g. power management seems to be quite bad
[15:19] <tme5> does anyone actually get better performance with the X intel module?
[15:19] <onano> sarbojit, you have to understand "skylake" : "pretty new" so, support (acc. to you) can be a bit of a issue
[15:20] <tme5> people are saying that it's not good except on very old hardware
[15:20] <sarbojit> curlyears, by *support* I meant things should *just work* out of box. I was an ARCH linux guy once but nowadays I really do not have time setting up the system for couple of hours that's all. I may be able to figure out the problem but that will demand time.
[15:21] <tme5> the sid package says it's discouraged https://packages.debian.org/sid/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:21] <curlyears> sarbojit:  translation:   until someone with the right com,bination of the skills, the motivation , and a skylake in hand undertakes to makew it fully functional for the skylakw,, probably not
[15:21] <fkmdn> any help with jawa app?
[15:21] <sarbojit> So I wanted get it up and running as soon as possible without me sitting with it through the night.
[15:21] <firman> excuse me, can I rename or re-configure the encfs folder?
[15:21] <sarbojit> curlyears, I understand.
[15:21] <tme5> and yet it is installed by default on ubuntu. maybe there should be a more thorough h/w check?
[15:22] <sarbojit> I think may be I can have a deeper look at the wifi card.
[15:22] <tme5> firman, yep
[15:22] <firman> how to do that?
[15:22] <firman> tme5
[15:22] <sarbojit> also kernel spams PCIE error a lot. I had to put pcie_aspm=off in kernel command line to shut it off. May be an issue with power management.
[15:23] <sarbojit> The device might not be able to wake up after driver suspends it.
[15:23] <tme5> firman, man encfsctl
[15:23] <OerHeks> fkmdn, jawa ? or java?\
[15:23] <effectnet> i am having that error again, dunno what to do.  'maximum number of clients reached, cannot open display'
[15:23] <curlyears> again, sarbokit:  16.04 is officially in an "unstable" state at this time
[15:23] <sarbojit> hmmm ... I see
[15:24] <fkmdn> java no matter
[15:24] <tme5> firman, renaming the folder is done as normal. but encfsctl will let you configure it
[15:24] <OerHeks> fkmdn, try #java
[15:24] <sarbojit> thank you for you patience curlyears :-) Much appreciated.
[15:24] <akik> curlyears: what do you mean by officially?
[15:24] <fkmdn> i wont it's ubuntu which acts up
[15:24] <firman> tme5, okay got it! I'll try
[15:24] <sarbojit> akik, he meant that devs are still testing the distro... it might give you a few bumpy rides
[15:24] <sarbojit> know what I mean?
[15:25] <curlyears> sarbojit:  ok...not complely sure I wqas "patient" with you, but you're welcome anyway
[15:25] <nebg> anyone here knows of any free vps server ?  i don't need performance i just want to learn something about server management for linux, like setting up an email server etc...
[15:25] <sarbojit> curlyears, that was being patient. I had seen worse.
[15:25] <sarbojit> have*
[15:25] <OerHeks> fkmdn,  then give us some details, what ubuntu version, what java app, what java version, and your issue?
[15:26] <curlyears> akik: Canonical Inc. has officially labelled 16.04 an unstable release CANDIDATE.  Not ready for primte time
[15:26] <OerHeks> nebg, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only
[15:26] <akik> curlyears: wow is it mentioned at ubuntu.com ?
[15:26] <curlyears> sarbojit:  *grin*
[15:26] <rsully> curlyears wat? source?
[15:27] <zykotick9> curlyears: what are you talking about?  16.04 is ubuntu's current stable release?
[15:27] <nebg> OerHeks, i'm on ubuntu
[15:27] <curlyears> akik:   try looking at canonical.com
[15:27] <fkmdn> 12.04, omegat, have no idea, fonts are unreadable and dialogs open offscreen
[15:28] <akik> !fud
[15:28] <curlyears> zykotick9:  canonical recommends upgrading to it until the official July release
[15:28] <rsully> curlyears I'm not seeing *anything* that supports this
[15:28] <sarbojit> anyone knows ubuntu's kernel team channel ?
[15:28] <zykotick9> curlyears: that's just LTS->LTS upgrades... it's always like that
[15:29] <Myrtti> curlyears: if you have the LTS version. If you don't, you're perfectly fine updating now.
[15:29] <Abhijit> hi
[15:29] <sarbojit> I tried ubuntu-kernel but its getting spammed
[15:29] <curlyears> canonical is who officially supports and manages the development of ubuntu\
[15:29] <rsully> curlyears no one is arguing with that, but you're not backing up what you said
[15:29] <curlyears> then why the warning that it isn't recommended for production servers?
[15:30] <rsully> again, provide a link
[15:30] <Abhijit> will kubunut 16.04 get all official security + other updates? or only ubuntu gets it? shall i get kubuntu or get ubunutu and then install kde?
[15:30] <fkmdn> Abhijit, they use the same repos so yes
[15:30] <curlyears> go look at canonicak.com's announcements re: 16.04
[15:30] <akik> curlyears: please provide a link to that information. otherwise you're spreading fud
[15:31] <curlyears> akik:  I don't have the link immediate;y to hand, but I DID read it.  I will go look for it, and bring in a linbk.  sowwy
[15:32] <Abhijit> fkmdn, ok. will get kubuntu then
[15:32]  * curlyears will hopefully be runnning 16.04 on a 64bit Pi3 creditcard sized computer
[15:33] <rsully> curlyears this is the only announcement I can find http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/20/canonical-unveils-6th-lts-release-of-ubuntu-with-16-04/
[15:33] <rsully> curlyears canonical.com does not have any info, it links to ubuntu.com and insight.ubuntu.com for news/press
[15:33] <effectnet> am i using compiz on my 16.04?
[15:33] <rsully> insights*
[15:34] <fossel> does anyone know why 16.04 out of the box makes a connection to an ip address in virginia usa as soon as you enable wifi?
[15:34] <fossel> a quick search shows there's a dozen websites using that ip address, many detected on virustotal serving windows malware, domain name resolution is https://secure-lvfs.rhcloud.com which apparently has something to do with updating firmware on Linux
[15:34] <curlyears> rsully:  OK, I clcicked a link on canonical.com and found the page I am referncing.  I didn't ntice it had changed sites
[15:35] <Hydr0p0nX> can anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf dvds report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount, unless I manually mount it
[15:36] <curlyears> rsully:  and though I admit it isn't my resposibilty to police the channel, we don't support 16.04 in here\
[15:36] <rsully> curlyears LOL look at the topic - such lies
[15:36] <autechy> curlyears: man, you need some reality checks
[15:36] <curlyears> ah, the topic has been changed.  I sit corrected.
[15:37] <curlyears> what, you thikk i STAND while IRCing?
[15:37] <curlyears> *blush*
[15:37] <fkmdn> my java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??
[15:38] <OerHeks> fossel, seems a legal linux update site for firmware, when your system boots, it looks for updates, also there
[15:38] <Myrtti> curlyears: we do support 16.04 here, it says so in the topic.
[15:38] <Myrtti> curlyears: so please, stop.
[15:38] <curlyears> when I join this channel, there areso many usernames being scroled that the topic scrolls off the screen way to fast to be read
[15:38] <Myrtti> curlyears: try /topic
[15:38] <curlyears> Myrtti:  I just did\
[15:39] <Abhijit> curlyears, you can turn off the join leave message in your irc software
[15:39] <curlyears> Abhijit:   using BitchX out of the box, as it were
[15:40] <soilentgreen> Hi! I just upgraded my ASUS ROG G751 to Ubuntu 16.04, seeing some weird issues with the trackpad. The only way that the click buttons work is if I have one finger on the touchpad, then click. Only the main button works. Any ideas?
[15:40] <Abhijit> curlyears, go to its settings and turn it off
[15:40] <fossel> OerHeks: yeah it looks like this is was it is > https://github.com/hughsie/fwupd
[15:41] <curlyears> Abhijit:  yeah, whenn I get around to custumizing my install, i will.  I have much larger problems to think about right now )-:
[15:41] <TheMarius> very nice job ubuntu! now my mate's set up allmost like i want it.. just gui tweaks left :D
[15:42] <Abhijit> curlyears, ok. was just telling you
[15:42] <curlyears> thanks. Abhijit
[15:43] <curlyears> once again:  how do I install a .deb?  I use spt-get on thisa sstem,
[15:43] <curlyears> apt-get
[15:43] <Abhijit> curlyears, 1. you dont. use package manager. 2. if you must double click on it or go to terminal and do dpkg -i packagenam.deb
[15:43] <soilentgreen> dkpg -i
[15:44] <jonatan> to install a .deb you use ubuntu sofware center/mintinstall or apt-get
[15:44] <curlyears> aah, dpkg.  THAT is where I misunderstood.  I thought I saw smeone say apt-get -i <packagename>
[15:45] <curlyears> jonatan:  apt-get failed spectaculary.  It dummped a listing of every line in the .deb, with the message "not found" after every one\
[15:47] <jonatan> sorry i can't help you whit that (i have never used apt-get to install a .deb)
[15:47] <soilentgreen> Yeah, you use dpkg. Unless you have dependancies... I believe then you would do just apt. Normally on Debian based systems, I'm using a GUI. If you were using a redhat derivative, I could easily tell you how to do it via cmdline.
[15:47] <curlyears> for the record;  I am a retired software engineer, and used to use ubuntu everyday in my work.  I am newly returned to using it after a 3.5 year absence, and I don't remember a lot of stuff.
[15:48] <curlyears> I  probably come off as if I thinkI am an expert, for which I apologize
[15:48] <soilentgreen> Ubuntu makes it easy to not remember. I don't think I've ever needed a man page on Ubuntu, unless I was using the server edition.
[15:48] <curlyears> by the by:  don't get old.  It SUCKS
[15:49] <Abhijit> curlyears.age -+ 50
[15:49] <Abhijit> -=
[15:49] <soilentgreen> Its all good. I just reject Windows and use Linux everywhere, even at work.
[15:49] <soilentgreen> Yeah, I'm trying not to get old. It's not working.
[15:49]  * curlyears <---  64 in July
[15:49] <akik> i learned something new a couple of days ago. if you install a .deb which wants some extra packages for dependencies you can just use apt-get -f install
[15:49] <soilentgreen> cool
[15:50] <soilentgreen> That's definitely useful.
[15:50] <Abhijit> not cool. its fixing things. not a recommended way of doing things.
[15:50] <curlyears> apt-get -f install <.deb-package-name>   ??
[15:50] <Abhijit> use apt-get or software center.
[15:50] <akik> curlyears: just apt-get -f install
[15:50] <Abhijit> curlyears, no
[15:51] <akik> in my case chrome and virtualbox
[15:51] <curlyears> someone in here recommended apt-get install <.deb-package-name>  the otherday.  Failed spectacularly, as Ijust explainf a few lines ago\
[15:51] <Harris> this is weird, I just updated Lubuntu and it says that I can upgrade to Ubuntu
[15:52] <Harris> doesn't Lubuntu have its own upgrades?
[15:52] <Harris> that's not an upgrade, it's a switch
[15:52] <Abhijit> akik, those are exceptions. and the provides who provide them are aware of it and take care of them
[15:52] <inocuous> I have to say, my firefox is behaving very well under 16.04
[15:52] <curlyears> can't use Software Center for this install  )-:
[15:52] <curlyears> wish I could
[15:53] <soilentgreen> To some of us who love Unity and really don't like LXDE, It could be considered an upgrade.
[15:53] <soilentgreen> ;-)
[15:53] <curlyears> inocuous:  mine isn't )-:  no one see,ms to be abe to assist me in finding out why.
[15:54] <curlyears> my thunderbird was misperforming aimilarly, but I noticed this morning that it is perfprming correctly again
[15:54] <lerner> what file manager should I use? thunar crashes quite often
[15:54] <lerner> 16.04
[15:54] <jonatan> lerner: bash
[15:54] <inocuous> what kinds of issues were you having curlyears ?
[15:55] <curlyears> inocuouss;  on pages which arelonger than one screenful, the scroll bar on the left is not performing as it "should"
[15:56] <Inocuous> I'll have to look at that. I usually mouse wheel to scroll
[15:56] <B0g4r7_> So I'm using gnome-session-flashback on 16.04, and I find that my Nautilus file manager windows, I'm not able to grab them by the edges and resize them.  They're instantiated at one size and that's what they stay.
[15:57] <lerner> command bash does nothing jonatan
[15:57] <curlyears> 1) no litlle up&down arrows boxes at the top&bottom, 2)  if you clicked anywhereon the scroll bar below the "button" the screen jumps to the very bttomof the page, if you click above the "button" it jumps to the very top  3)
[15:57] <B0g4r7_> Some other program windows are affected like this also, but not all windows.
[15:57] <Inocuous> I'm gonna try it.
[15:58] <curlyears> the only way to see content between the top & bottom is to "grab" the "button" and drag it (slowly) to where you want to view.   )-:
[15:58] <jonatan> lerner: bash is not a command
[15:59] <curlyears> it wasn't doing this at the beginnning of the week, just started appearing this way about mid-week.  Very irritating
[16:00] <zykotick9> jonatan: ahhh "bash" is a command, just see "which bash"...  i think your joke fell flat with lerner, and technically, you should have said "core-utils" ;)
[16:00] <Kosh> Afternoon all, anyone else having issues with thier bluetooth speakers not showing as an output option in Ubuntu 16.04 Gnome 3.18?
[16:00] <soilentgreen> actually, it is.. you run it to open a bash shell. If you are already in bash, it's going to open up a bash shell in the bash shell that you're already using.
[16:00] <fkmdn> my java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??
[16:00] <B0g4r7_> I like running bash within bash sometimes.
[16:01] <soilentgreen> Just like you can run ksh, if you have Korn shell, or csh for cshell... etc..
[16:01] <lerner> zykotick9, is that an app?
[16:01] <curlyears> I've een many people coming in and complaining about very wireless issues unnder 16.04this week
[16:01] <B0g4r7_> If I wanna break off from the task I'm doing and go do some subtask, I can just "exit" and be back in the original context with its working directory and command history and such.
[16:02] <Kosh> The bluetooth speaker connects fine, just doesnt show under the gnome menu as an output option..
[16:02] <zykotick9> lerner: NO.  jonatan was suggesting you use the terminal instead of a file-manager...  core-utils is the package that has a bunch of the core-GNU stuff, cp/mv/etc...
[16:02] <born7> hi
[16:02] <born7> i am Johnv from holland
[16:02] <lerner> zykotick9, using cli to copy and create new directories is gonna be awfully slow
[16:02] <born7> how are you
[16:02] <curlyears> B0g4r7_:  you coud also open some virtual windows and then use the <function> keys to switch back and forth between them.
[16:03] <born7> hello world
[16:03] <Guest27552> hello
[16:03] <tothbbalint> hello to everybody!
[16:03] <curlyears> lerner:  I have seldom found that to be true\
[16:03] <akik> lerner: for the terminal usage, there's a file manager called mc
[16:03] <Guest27552> can anybody help me with a problemwith the greeter?
[16:03] <curlyears> tothbbalint!
[16:03] <zykotick9> lerner: well, perhaps for you... i find it MUCH faster than a GUI file-manager (BUT that's just my preference)... sorry i don't have any GUI file-manager suggestions for you, but there are several available...
[16:03] <B0g4r7_> curlyears, sure, or use screen or splitvt or some other solution.
[16:04] <tothbbalint> curlyears, hello :)
[16:04] <lerner> curlyears, do you write a command every time you want to create a new directory?
[16:05] <curlyears> Apparently I manage to some up with some really strange peoblems, as seldom can any of the very knowledgable, people in here can assist e in resolving them
[16:05] <tothbbalint> I have an issue with my Asus laptop running Ubuntu 15.10. The mouse touchpad works only limitedly, I can move my mouse and click with it, but scrolling, two finger scrolling is not working. Any thoughts what could I try?
[16:07] <akik> curlyears: i feel the same way sometimes :)
[16:07] <B0g4r7_> lerner, see, you need to learn to use the cli precisely because it's seen as obtuse and difficult.  Then you can be seen as 1337 for having mastered such a fickle beast.
[16:07] <B0g4r7_> To say nothing of having another set of tools in your bad, if you will, which you may find are better suited for use on some problems than the gui-based toolset.
[16:07] <B0g4r7_> bag
[16:07] <aluno> hi
[16:08] <thowni> sup
[16:08] <lerner> mc = the bash that was mentioned before?
[16:08] <Abhijit> Guest27552, just ask
[16:08] <aluno> brs??????
[16:08] <curlyears> akik:  in Dec, I received an automatic "software update" screen from canonical.  I OKed it, and it SAID it completed without any errors, and that I needed to reboot my system, to continue
[16:08] <akik> lerner: mc is the file manager which you start from bash
[16:09] <Abhijit> midnight commander
[16:09] <akik> curlyears: there's something seriously wrong with 16.04 software center
[16:10] <curlyears> that was that.  The system would NOT reboot.  Booted live DVD version, came on here, and asked fr help.  A) no one else had reported similar issues, and B) every suggestion from here I tried just made things worse.  THEN my live DVD stoppped booting.
[16:10] <lerner> if bash = cli, how did a language became synonymous with it?
[16:10] <B0g4r7_> Heh, I can't even find Software Center on 16.04.  Not in gnone-session-flashback anyway.
[16:10] <akik> B0g4r7_: i think the name on unity is ubuntu-software
[16:10] <curlyears> after 4 months of total frutration, I wen t ta local computrer shop and paid thgem to D/L ans burn a 16.04.4 DVD for m. e
[16:11] <zykotick9> lerner: bash is ONE shell, zsh is another...  it's not "cli" really
[16:11] <B0g4r7_> akik, yeah, I'm not using unity...
[16:11] <Guest27552> does anybody also got problems with the greeter not shown when booting with 2 monitors?
[16:12] <curlyears> since then, I am unable to install the required new version of the gcode translator/contoller package for 3D printer, and just this morning, a pushed auto-update failed.  Didn't dsay why, just that it failed
[16:12] <akik> B0g4r7_: i'm using kubuntu and on it, it's called plasma-discover. that doesn't work either so i had to install muon
[16:13] <curlyears> Guest27552:  "greeting?"   Do you mean the splash page"?
[16:13] <Guest27552> hey, i mean the login where you enter the pw
[16:14] <Guest27552> it is not displayed when i boot with 2 monitors
[16:14] <curlyears> oh, the initial login screen...OK.  No, I have no multi-monitor experience, sorry
[16:16] <akik> Guest27552: i had problems with lightdm and the login screen
[16:16] <curlyears> the only problem I have with thhis 27" widescreen display is that I have only one good eye, and I keeep "losing" the cursor on the large screen  *heh*
[16:16] <akik> Guest27552: but this was on 14.04. there are scripts in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ which could help you
[16:17] <lerner> link to a mc wiki please
[16:17] <emitattuo> curlyears, mouse trails on?  Large cursor?
[16:17] <Abhijit> curlyears, increase cursor size?
[16:17] <Abhijit> lerner, press F1 after launching mc
[16:17] <zykotick9> lerner: be aware mc is a terminal based file-manger, not gui!
[16:17] <akik> lerner: https://www.midnight-commander.org/
[16:18] <B0g4r7_> curlyears, you know compiz has a "show mouse" effect and some other similar things availavle in ccsm.
[16:18] <Abhijit> lerner, and https://www.midnight-commander.org/
[16:18] <curlyears> emitattuo:  how do I select a l;arge cursor?  I'd LOVE that!
[16:19] <curlyears> I do nnot know what ccsm, or compiz ARE
[16:19] <lerner> pressing f1 asks me if I want to read the xfce manual
[16:20] <lerner> f2 opens an user menu
[16:20] <fkmdn> my java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??
[16:20] <emitattuo> curlyears, it would be in the mouse settings.  Do you know which desktop you use (Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, etc)?
[16:21] <akik> lerner: you can use esc+number to access those options at the bottom. esc+9 to access the top menu
[16:21] <B0g4r7_> curlyears, you can "apt install compizconfig-settings-manager", then run "ccsm", and you'll see some options to change the GUI behavior, including one called "show mouse" for making the mouse cursomr more visible.
[16:21] <curlyears> I think  I am in gnome. Isn't that the default for 14.04.4?
[16:22] <emitattuo> curlyears, compiz is used for visual effects and doing fancy things with windows.
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  the default is unity, with the bar on the left and a symbol on top, you have to click
[16:23] <Guest27552> brb
[16:23] <curlyears> weird.  Alll of a sudden, by term screen filled the entire screen of my  monnitor, and I can't access the control bar at the top, or they susyem bar at the side.  What happened?
[16:23] <emitattuo> curlyears, there are many options, so if you don't like the way one works, it isn't that hard to switch.
[16:23] <lerner> manpages are activated with: mc manpages <?
[16:23] <fkmdn> i remember how unity developer was insulting people and saying unity launcher will only be on the left
[16:23] <fkmdn> then chinese ordered it on the bottom and here we are
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> lerner  the man pages use 'less' in the terminal
[16:24] <Abhijit> lerner, man mc
[16:24] <zykotick9> lerner: to open a man page use "man WHATYOUWANT"
[16:24] <B0g4r7_> curlyears, maybe you pressed f11?
[16:24] <emitattuo> lerner, though you don't have to shout at it :)
[16:24] <xangua> Man iwantrice
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> lerner  try   man firefox, to see what it does
[16:25] <zykotick9> emitattuo: ;)
[16:25] <curlyears> B0g4r7_:  possibly, but not on purpose.  How do I get out of it?
[16:25] <B0g4r7_> f11 again?
[16:25] <nchambers> MonkeyDust, well, it actually uses the PAGER env variable, but that it typically set to less
[16:26] <curlyears> ahh, thanks B0g4r7_
[16:26] <lerner> thats a big manpages
[16:27] <curlyears> yeah, the menu in Mouse & Touchpad under System Settings only has an option for "primary key" and "mouse speed"  nnothing else
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> lerner  q to quit the man page
[16:28] <emitattuo> curlyears, sorry, I don't use Unity.  Try the settings under Accessability
[16:29] <emitattuo> lerner, info is also a good command to know to get help with things.  It is used in a similar way.
[16:29] <lerner> info mc?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> lerner  yes, info mc is a good example
[16:31] <emitattuo> I just upgraded to 15.04 from 14.10 (x64) and now have an issue starting X.  I have failures during system startup starting Simple Desktop Display Manager and at the end it throws me to a console login.  I can log in OK, but running startx gives me an error: parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/vtty0 (No such file or directory)
[16:31] <curlyears> naw, I've scanned through all reasonable possibilities under System Settings and there is nothing the offers an option fo cursor size (or any other cursor attribute)
[16:32] <curlyears> *grrr*
[16:32] <curlyears> be back in a while.  Thank you, all
[16:33] <ShowMeTheFunny> Hi
[16:33] <Solarbab1> Just read that I should be able to access snappy apps from the software center now.  Opening up the Ubuntu Software center I didn't see anything that looked different though
[16:34] <emitattuo> hi ShowMeTheFunny
[16:34] <emitattuo> curlyears, I just found something..
[16:34] <ShowMeTheFunny> Howdy emitattuo
[16:35] <aagam349> Can anyone help for the Ubutnu 16.04 ethernet issues its not connecting to the internet
[16:35] <ShowMeTheFunny> aagam349, describe the symptoms.
[16:37] <aagam349> acutuall I have a ethernet lan in which I have to make a DSL connetion and enter USERname and password provided by the ISP. it was working fine on 15.10 but now its not working and getting disconneted every time.
[16:38] <aagam349> and my interface names are also changed after the update like eth0 is now elsp70 that
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> aagam349  yes, the names have changed, new conventions
[16:39] <akik> aagam349: you can get the old interface names back by adding a kernel  parameter net.ifnames=0
[16:40] <kelalaka> selam
[16:40] <aagam349> Ya ok but the main issue is with the internet is not conneted through ethernet.
[16:41] <Harris> I am somehow upgrading my Lubuntu to Ubuntu
[16:41] <fkmdn> !id
[16:42] <fkmdn> my java app have illegible menus and its dialogs open offscreen what to do??
[16:43] <onano> fkmdn, it's your developed app? if yes? ##java is best place to ask your question
[16:43] <fkmdn> no its from repo!!
[16:43] <onano> name of app
[16:43] <fkmdn> omegaT
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> !find omega
[16:44] <onano> fkmdn, what java version you have?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> !info omegat
[16:44] <onano> is it openjdk or oracle one?
[16:45] <fkmdn> default ubuntu java... openjdk?
[16:45] <onano> fkmdn, omegaT site suggests to use oracle jdk
[16:45] <_vincenz_> !lista
[16:45] <_vincenz_> |ciao
[16:46] <onano> !es
[16:46] <_vincenz_> !lista
[16:46] <fkmdn> it's it
[16:46] <onano> fkmdn, sorry
[16:46] <onano> pardon
[16:48] <curlyears> *sigh*
[16:49] <curlyears> so,meome ,ake me feel better:  ask a question I know the answer to
[16:49] <curlyears> *heh*
[16:49] <onano> curlyears, any nice themes for lubuntu
[16:50] <emitattuo> oh, welcome back, curlyears
[16:50] <emitattuo> curlyears, still looking at staying with Unity?
[16:50] <curlyears> thanks, emitattuo
[16:50] <curlyears> emitattuo :  I know of no other options.
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> !themes | onano
[16:51] <faultoverride> curlyears , How can I get an X server to start without  the '-nolisten tcp' flag?
[16:51] <curlyears> sorry, fau;ltoverride, I am X ignorant
[16:52] <curlyears> but thanks for trying, *heh*
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> faultoverride  this channel is ubuntu specific, better ask in ##linux
[16:53] <curlyears> I once used bc to calculate The NUmber of the Beast.  6^6^6.  the result iin base 10 is ovr 27000 digits, took 8 hours on a 6 Mhz MC68000 under Xenix
[16:53] <curlyears> with no other user processed running
[16:54] <curlyears> processes
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  great, but that's not for this channel
[16:55] <curlyears> I wish I culd remember how I did that.  6^6 was too big an argument for the exponent of the calc  6^(^6)
[16:55] <curlyears> (6^6)
[16:56] <aquiles> Hii
[16:56] <curlyears> damned sticky keyboard
[16:56] <faultoverride> MonkeyDust : My mistake. I was asking here because I am unable to find the config file that enables that flag. I will try asking in the linux channel. Thank you for the help.
[16:57] <emitattuo> curlyears, I think MonkeyDust is referring to this being a support channel, not as much a social channel.  There's an off-topic channel, though we could join for interesting dicussion.
[16:57] <aquiles> Someone
[16:57] <curlyears> if I could remember how to factor it correctly, I'd run it on this 3.6Ghz 8 core AMD64.  Bet it wouldn't take long
[16:58] <lerner> does mc have a channel?
[16:58] <emitattuo> hi Aquiles
[16:58] <curlyears> mc?
[16:58] <emitattuo> midnight commander = mc
[16:58] <aquiles> Hii thanks :)
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> lerner  not every single program has it own channel ... type /msg alis list [blah]
[16:59] <Guest91327> hey
[16:59] <aquiles> I'm new
[16:59] <aquiles> I'm using Ubuntu phone and I install chatter irc to test
[16:59] <curlyears> ask your question, aquiles
[16:59] <Guest91327> i have played around a bit with the position of the greeter and it helped once
[16:59] <emitattuo> curlyears, it's #ubuntu-offtopic if you haven't seen it yet.
[16:59] <curlyears> do we support uubuntu phone/
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !phone
[17:00] <Guest91327> and the greeter is displayed when both screens show the same
[17:00] <shekhar> is there a link to install ubuntu on my pc through a USB ???
[17:00] <shekhar> * link with instructions i mean
[17:00] <Guest91327> but the greeter is gone when i switch dual screen
[17:00] <aquiles> Before I'm using ubuntu phone I have been a android user
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> shekhar  insert usb stick in the pc, boot from the usb stick, follow instructions
[17:01] <curlyears> MonkeyDust: assuming your hardware supports USB boot
[17:01] <fkmdn> ok how can I remove openjdk?
[17:02] <bekks> fkmdn: apt uninstall ...
[17:02] <aquiles> I have been able to configure and use owncloud in my phone
[17:02] <bekks> errr, apt remove
[17:02] <TheMarius> ubuntu mate should be ubuntus main distro :/
[17:02] <fkmdn> i cannot it wants remove applications
[17:02] <aquiles> With some help offcourse
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> shekhar  scroll down http://www.tecmint.com/ubuntu-16-04-installation-guide/
[17:02] <bekks> fkmdn: because thos applications require it.
[17:02] <fkmdn> i need to keep apps, remove openjdk
[17:02] <bekks> *those
[17:02] <bekks> fkmdn: That will break apps.
[17:03] <fkmdn> no
[17:03] <bekks> Of course.
[17:03] <fkmdn> i have normal java
[17:03] <curlyears> why is that TheMarius?
[17:03] <bekks> fkmdn: openjdk IS normal java.
[17:03] <fkmdn> now i don' t need openjdk
[17:04] <de-facto> fkmdn why do you want to remove it? if you have apps requiring java you woudl neet do install an alternative to it (you can switch alternatives for java with "sudo update-alternatives --config java")
[17:04] <aquiles> I'm able to do everything with my Ubuntu phone
[17:04] <aagam349> MSG dholbach Sir,I am getting some ethernet isssues in Ubuntu 16.04 can you help me out
[17:05] <aquiles> I want to know if unity 8 will have a option to put the launcher on bottom ?
[17:05] <fkmdn> omegat is bitch and use explicitly an openjdk java, not one from alternatives
[17:05] <xangua> aquiles: try asking again in a year
[17:05] <bekks> !info omegat
[17:05] <tambu> doing an Ubuntu 16.10 upgrade.. when it asks about replacing configs like say dhcpd.conf  and i pick "Y" for install maintainer version.. I'm assuming my original copy gets moved do dhcpd.conf.old or something right??
[17:06] <tambu> *16.04 rather.. coming from 15.10
[17:06] <bekks> tambu: No. IT will be replaced. If you want a backup, take a backup - before.
[17:06] <TheMarius> curlyears, it super fast and looks nice
[17:06] <halakar_> hey guys.  I slapped up Ubuntu 16.04LTS in a virtual machine under hyper-v.  All is well, but damn - the mouse integration doesn't seem to work.  It's slow and choppy.  Anyone know the fix?
[17:07] <bekks> halakar_: Sounds like a hypev issue.
[17:07] <bekks> *hyperv
[17:07] <halakar_> i installed the hyper-v daemons or whatever using  apt-get install --install-recommends linux-tools-virtual-lts-xenial linux-cloud-tools-virtual-lts-xenial
[17:07] <curlyears> dagnab it
[17:07] <fkmdn> and I don't need useless java1.6 lying around
[17:08] <soilentgreen> So, I had rebooted my system and attempted a clean install. Same problem was in installer disc with my trackpad.
[17:08] <halakar_> I also installed the virtual kernel using apt-get install --install-recommends linux-virtual-lts-xenial
[17:08] <soilentgreen> Here is my output from xinput.
[17:08] <soilentgreen> ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2	[master pointer (3)]
[17:08] <soilentgreen> ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4	[slave pointer (2)]
[17:08] <soilentgreen> ⎜ ↳ Sunrex/JME Ghost Key Elimiantion Keyboard	id=10	[slave pointer (2)]
[17:08] <soilentgreen> ⎜ ↳ ASUS Tech Inc. ASUS HID Device id=12	[slave pointer (2)]
[17:08] <soilentgreen> ⎜ ↳ ASUS Tech Inc. ASUS HID Device id=13	[slave pointer (2)]
[17:08] <halakar_> but,  uh, how the hell to tell if the damn thing is USING that kernel?  uname-a?
[17:08] <fkmdn> is there some package that satisfy java dependency without  files?
[17:08] <bekks> fkmdn: No.
[17:08] <aquiles> Xangua: It will be nice if canonical make it possible to us
[17:09] <fkmdn> then how am I supposed to use the real java in ubuntu?
[17:09] <bekks> fkmdn: Use update-alternatives as you have been told already.
[17:09] <xangua> fkmdn: follow Oracle's install instructions
[17:09] <curlyears> aquiles: go to www.canonical.com and suggest that
[17:09] <halakar_> anyone?
[17:09] <bekks> fkmdn: And what is "real java"?
[17:09] <soilentgreen> fkmdn: You could download the tarball from the Oracle website, then set your alternatives to point to your version.
[17:09] <aquiles> I cant addapt my self to use the launche on left side
[17:09] <halakar_> is there a way to tweak the kernel options?  I mean, if I installed the virtual kernel, does it automatically set it or what?
[17:09] <gorgio> a
[17:10] <soilentgreen> Real Java is from the Oracle website. OpenJDK is the open Java.
[17:10] <fkmdn> as I said, omegat doesn't use /usr/bin/java if there is openjdk installed
[17:10] <kiidbrian> interesting
[17:10] <aquiles> And whatsapp client will be nice too
[17:10] <bekks> soilentgreen: You mean "Oracle Java". OpenJDK is the current reference implementation, so opnejdk is "the real java".
[17:10] <fkmdn> halakar_, there is no virtual kernel
[17:10] <kisb> no its called oracle-java not real java
[17:10] <soilentgreen> Right, you need to set your alternatives.
[17:10] <halakar_> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn531029.aspx
[17:10] <bekks> fkmdn: And if omegat is freaking out, you need to file a bug against omegat.
[17:10] <emitattuo> You asked earlier about other options to Unity:  Some of the main ones are Gnome, KDE, Mate, and Cinnamon, and lighter-weight options like XFCE, LXDE, and many others.
[17:11] <halakar_> To install the virtual kernel on 16.04, run the following commands as root (or sudo):
[17:11] <halakar_> apt-get install --install-recommends linux-virtual-lts-xenial
[17:11] <soilentgreen> Ahh.. Ok. So, that's changed. I thought Oracle Java had a lot of the closed source items that OpenJDK did have.
[17:11] <fkmdn> alternatives link /usr/bin/java to stuff
[17:11] <kiidbrian> Take note of enlightenment too
[17:11] <halakar_> Basically I think I  need to install something similar to Integration Services on a windows guest
[17:12] <fkmdn> omegat reject that and uses openjdk with the real path
[17:12] <halakar_> So uh, is there a way to boot that kernel to see if it helps?
[17:12] <v4rp1ng> Hi everyone, short question: is it possible to force ext4lazyinit? I know about mkfs.ext4 lazy_itable_init & lazy_journal_init but I had to resize a volumegroup with resize2fs and now lazyinit takes hours to complete.
[17:12] <halakar_> the mouse is really jittery when connected to the VM via hyper-v manager.
[17:12] <fkmdn> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java
[17:13] <soilentgreen> do a command.. update-alternatives show java.
[17:13] <emitattuo> curlyears, Personally, I can't stand Unity, as I think it is very unintuitive for both new and old users.  I prefer Mate or Cinnamon, or XFCE on a lower-spec machine.
[17:14] <fkmdn> soilentgreen, unknown argument show
[17:14] <aquiles> I heard a client. Name is loqui im
[17:14] <soilentgreen> sorry... update-alternatives --display java
[17:14] <aquiles> For firefox os
[17:14] <soilentgreen> I'm thinking an older version.
[17:14] <halakar_> anyone got any ideas?  I can't be the only one on Earth running ubuntu in a VM under hyper-v
[17:14] <aquiles> Its makes whatsapp work
[17:15] <TheMarius> i dont have a particulary low spec machine but mate seems least plagued with bugs quick and responsive and the most usable of them all
[17:15] <fkmdn> java - manual mode the link points at /opt/jre1.8blahblah/java
[17:15] <TheMarius> mate has an efficient layout
[17:15] <curlyears> well, I don't think my machine would qualify as "lower-spec" *GRIN*  8 core AMD64 TX @ 3,6Ghz, 24gB RAM, 3.5 TB hdd
[17:15] <de-facto> fkmdn omegat requires default-jre wich is just fine u guess
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> i use mate too, very convenient
[17:15] <curlyears> how do I get mate?~
[17:15] <fkmdn> what is default-jre?
[17:16] <emitattuo> curlyears, Some of the desktop environments emulate or model themselves after Windows or Mac or have a similar efficiency and style, if that's what you're used to and want to use.
[17:16] <TheMarius> i have a amd x4 3.2 ghz with 8 gb ram and 6 TB hdd ... not low spec either
[17:16] <de-facto> !info default-jre | fkmdn
[17:16] <fkmdn> curlyears, install mate-session
[17:16] <soilentgreen> If you want the "easy way", you could always use the webup2date PPA: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  sudo apt install mate ... logout, switch, login
[17:16] <lerner> .... how do I open a video file with a specific media player (smplayer) from mc?
[17:17] <kisb> curlyears, https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[17:17] <curlyears> emitattuo:  Great Ghu!  Why would I want to emulate a Wibblows environment?
[17:17] <de-facto> behind default-jre is openjdk-8 et al which probably is the best choice on xenial anyways
[17:17] <Inocuous> curlyears, I didn't notice any issues with the scrollbar
[17:17] <kisb> curlyears, you can get the iso
[17:17] <halakar_> This would probably be why Windows runs the entire world
[17:17] <fkmdn> i have default-jre installed
[17:17] <halakar_> bekks, thanks for your response
[17:17] <curlyears> kisb:   from?
[17:18] <bekks> fkmdn: openjdk is the default.
[17:18] <fkmdn> oh screw that i edited omegat file and put there my path, threw out all f---ed logic
[17:18] <bekks> fkmdn: "default-jre" is just a meta package pulling in the openjdk jre.
[17:18] <de-facto> fkmdn  you can see it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/omegat  http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/default-jre
[17:18] <curlyears> why does "pastebin sudo apt-get install gnome"  fail?
[17:19] <bekks> fkmdn: So file a bug against omegat.
[17:19] <bekks> curlyears: how does it fail?
[17:19] <fkmdn> ok it's seem to working with oracle java
[17:19] <aagam349> how to fix ethernet error in ubutnu 16.04 ??
[17:19] <curlyears> bekks:  says "sudo" is not a command
[17:19] <zykotick9> curlyears: try "sudo apt-get install gnome | pastebinit"  or just put pastebinit in your initial command perhaps?
[17:20] <bekks> curlyears: you cannot pastebin like that. you need to run sudo .... | pastebinit
[17:20] <aquiles> Unav will have offline maps???
[17:20] <kisb> https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[17:21] <fkmdn> curlyears, don't install "gnome" there's many unneeded stuff there
[17:22] <fkmdn> gnome-session should be enough
[17:22] <zykotick9> curlyears: fyi you can just install "mate-desktop" and try mate out on your current install...
[17:22] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16153409/  < results of sudo apt-get install gnome | pastebinit
[17:22] <aib> Hi, I downloaded an image (ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso) over Torrent and the checksums are different than those listed on the official website and of the files I downloaded directly. (77bd261ad57b1f045f34ccb6fd6b9c79, md5) What's going on?
[17:22] <bekks> curlyears: So install inkscape.
[17:22] <bekks> Afforess: You downloaded a corrupt image.
[17:23] <bekks> aib: ^
[17:23] <curlyears> bekks:  what is inkscape?
[17:23] <bekks> !info inkscape | curlyears
[17:23] <\9> curlyears: svg editor
[17:23] <zykotick9> curlyears: i'd try installing a LARGE gnome metapackage... ubuntu-gnome-desktop will give you all of it i think
[17:23] <zykotick9> s/LARGE/LARGE/
[17:23] <zykotick9> ahhh,  LARGER
[17:24] <aib> bekks: Isn't the Torrent protocol supposed to guard against that? I got the torrent link through the official website. It had quite many peers, too.
[17:24] <TheMarius> ubuntu mate even has a good scheduler! wow
[17:24] <curlyears> OK.  wait aminute
[17:24] <TheMarius> lacks month though! add that please :D
[17:24] <bekks> aib: The torrent protocol cant save you from transmission errors.
[17:24] <fkmdn> good scheduler?
[17:24] <nashant> Hey, I'm trying to ssh in to a new install and it's failing. auth.log says authentication failure and failed password. The password is correct and ssh works fine from localhost
[17:24] <nashant> Any ideas?
[17:24] <fkmdn> ehm it can
[17:24] <bekks> TheMarius: Ubuntu Mate uses the same scheduler as the ones ;)
[17:25] <TheMarius> fkmdn: scheduler so you can run tasks automatically at spec times
[17:25] <bekks> *other ones
[17:25] <TheMarius> linux mints system sucked
[17:25] <TheMarius> reason is i had to install a gtk frontend
[17:25] <bekks> TheMarius: Mint uses cron as well, as Ubuntu does.
[17:25] <TheMarius> yes ... in the background.. with no gtk frontend
[17:26] <TheMarius> i went from manjaro to mint to ubuntu mate
[17:26] <TheMarius> it became better and better, sort of
[17:26] <bekks> TheMarius: No frontend needed, entirely. "crontab" is enough.
[17:26] <TheMarius> for a new user, frontend is def needed
[17:26] <bekks> TheMarius: Definitily not.
[17:26] <TheMarius> def yes
[17:26] <bekks> A new user doesnt need to alter the crontab, at all.
[17:27] <fkmdn> mate has no developers who can handle a big project such as gnome
[17:27] <TheMarius> a new user wants to take backup of his documents and photos
[17:27] <warkosign> hi, since I upgraded to 16.04 cinnamon panel and menu don't respond to mouse, only to keyboard. Any idea what to check/try ?
[17:27] <emitattuo> curlyears, here's an idea of what Mate looks like http://mate-desktop.org/
[17:27] <fkmdn> i cannot see it being developed in the future
[17:27] <bekks> TheMarius: And no crontab is needed for that, for a new user.
[17:27] <TheMarius> really?
[17:27] <TheMarius> i mean automatic backups weekly
[17:27] <scurlyear> *sigh*
[17:28] <scurlyear> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16153568/
[17:28] <derbinator> Hi! I ran the additions .sh and still getting: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/vboxvideo_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/vboxvideo_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[17:28] <Lazik> TheMarius 1, rest 0
[17:28] <bekks> TheMarius: crontab -l, crontab -e
[17:28] <emitattuo> fkmdn, it looks like they just had a new release on April 8, this year.
[17:28] <bekks> TheMarius: No gtk frontend needed for a oneliner.
[17:28] <scurlyear> that's the result of attempting to install inkscape
[17:28] <TheMarius> yes ... but in ubuntu you dont have to sit on google typing this into the terminal.. there you have a frontend doing it for you
[17:29] <nashant> Hey, I'm trying to ssh in to a new install and it's failing. auth.log says authentication failure and failed password. The password is correct and ssh works fine from localhost
[17:29] <nashant> Any ideas?
[17:29] <derbinator> de-facto: :) ?
[17:29] <uRock> How do I install 16.04 without it installing grub?
[17:30] <effectnet> woo!  saturday night!!!
[17:30] <emitattuo> uRock, you have an alternative boot loader that you use?
[17:31] <uRock> emitattuo, I already have 14.04 installed. Looking to install 16.04 in a testing partition. I don't wanna over write the current grub.
[17:31] <TheMarius> bekks: linux loonies dont get how much it suck to sit in the termnial and on google searching for getting basic stuff like this to work
[17:31] <effectnet> so i look at that xrestop command.  i do see alot of entries that say unknown.  im having that 'maximum number of clients reached' x problem.
[17:31] <TheMarius> cron was new to me
[17:32] <fkmdn> uRock, install it on the 16.04 partition, then uninstall
[17:32] <TheMarius> same go for getting the printers working.. linux did it automatically... i just had to add.. no install of drivers, editing various files etc like i had to on manjaro
[17:32] <bekks> TheMarius: So you havent found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[17:33] <TheMarius> i didnt have to
[17:33] <emitattuo> uRock, what about backing up the current grub config?  Then it wouldn't matter if it was overwritten as you could easily replace it with the backup.
[17:33] <TheMarius> its set up for me in ubuntu mate
[17:33] <uRock> emitattuo, will give that a go. Thanks
[17:33] <bekks> TheMarius: cron is setup in every ubuntu flavor...
[17:34] <TheMarius> thats the nice part about ubuntu mate.. software in the welcome screen the same, allthough wish they had a download manager for the software there so you get it into a list
[17:35] <fkmdn> scurlyear, where did you get that inkscape from?
[17:35] <scurlyear> I missed some stuff, someone came to the door.   Did anyone make any comment about my attempted inkscape install
[17:36] <halakar_> completely worthless if the mouse won't work smoothly under a hyper-v guest
[17:36] <nashant> Hey, I'm trying to ssh in to a new install and it's failing. auth.log says authentication failure and failed password. The password is correct and ssh works fine from localhost
[17:36] <nashant> Any ideas?
[17:36] <halakar_> virtualizing the guest under windows server 2012r2 hyper-v with 4 vCPU 4096MB RAM and a fixed-size disk
[17:36] <halakar_> need to change the kernel methinks, but no idea how
[17:37] <uRock> nashant, did you install openssh-server?
[17:37] <TheMarius> nashant: router or firewall issues?
[17:37] <warkosign> hihahi, since I upgraded to 16.04 window manager doesn't repsond to mouse, only to keyboard. It doesn't seem to matter which session I'm using. Any ideas ?
[17:37] <scurlyear> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16153568/
[17:37] <nashant> uRock, TheMarius: I think I just remembered the problem
[17:38] <nashant> a password containing + and #
[17:38] <scurlyear>   <--  result of an attempt to install inkscape
[17:38] <fkmdn> scurlyear, where did you get that inkscape from?
[17:38] <TheMarius> scurlyear, if you had ubuntu mate you'd just click "install" on it from the startup welcome screen
[17:38] <uRock> nashant, my passwords contain # and work fine. Not sure if the + would be an issue or not.
[17:39] <yogesh> hi guys NEw here!!
[17:39] <bekks> scurlyear: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please.
[17:39] <scurlyear> fkmdn:  dunno...wherever apt-get looks\
[17:39] <nashant> uRock: yeah, that was the problem
[17:39] <yogesh> what is this CHANNEL about like engineers? or ?
[17:40] <baizon> yogesh: read topic please
[17:40] <scurlyear> TheMariusL  well, I am trying to install gnome, which failed due to an unresolved dependency on inkscape
[17:40] <yogesh> where is TOPIC?
[17:40] <bekks> scurlyear: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please.
[17:40] <halakar_> zero support
[17:40] <fkmdn> yogesh, //topic
[17:40] <yogesh> /topic
[17:40] <yogesh> /topic
[17:41] <yogesh> yogesh,//topic
[17:41] <yogesh> cant see....
[17:41] <bekks> yogesh: only one /
[17:41] <baizon> yogesh: http://richard.esplins.org/siwi/2011/07/08/getting-started-freenode-irc/
[17:41] <Lazik> This is for unicorn training
[17:41] <yogesh> ty for help
[17:42] <yogesh> but what is unicorn
[17:42] <yogesh> ?
[17:42] <viju> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:42] <yogesh> can anyone tell what is unicorn?
[17:43] <Guest65196> Hello,i'm running Ubuntu 16 LIVE CD with ecryptfs. Everything works fine; however as i would like to do a backup, i'm trying to mount the encrypted home I do have the password and passphrase, i am able to see the .private folders.When i connect the HDD and run the ecryptfs-recover command, i get the following error: INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...find: File system loop detected; `/sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl'
[17:43] <Guest65196>  is part of the same file system loop as `/sys/kernel/debug'.
[17:43] <Lazik> yogesh: it's a beautiful woman that cooks and clean
[17:43] <scurlyear> damn it.  I've run it severall times, bekk, and it keeps telling me I should run apt-get update to correct a range of duplicate files
[17:43] <gpanther> hello all
[17:43] <yogesh> oh! is it ..?
[17:43] <gpanther> anyone else having issues with filing bugs on launchpad?
[17:43] <bekks> scurlyear: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please. Finally.
[17:44] <gpanther> I tried it multiple times and when I click the final "Submit bug report" nothing happens
[17:44] <scurlyear> and i just got prompted for an auto-update, said yes, and it failed "The installation or removal of a package failed"
[17:44] <yogesh> hey i having problem too in ubuntu...
[17:44] <gpanther> I also checked the developer console in firefox but see no errors there...
[17:44] <smatic11> hello
[17:44] <yogesh> MY FLash player not updating how to update????
[17:44] <bekks> scurlyear: Ok, so you dont want my help, since you are actively refusing to provide the information requested. Maybe someone else will help you. Good luck.
[17:44] <yogesh> help plss
[17:44] <yogesh> MY FLash player not updating how to update????
[17:45] <dannymichel> Links from outside applications don't open in Chromium. I click them from the application(such as IRC clinet), and it opens a new Chromium window, but does not open the URL. If i repeat the clicking, it will continue opening new blank Chromium windows.
[17:45] <halakar_> welp, f this channel
[17:45] <gpanther> where would I report a bug with launchpad if launchpad is not working? :p
[17:45] <yogesh> BEkks: PLZZ (-_-)
[17:45] <scurlyear> bekks:  I just started the pasteinit, hang on\
[17:45] <bekks> scurlyear: Too late.
[17:45] <bekks> !flash | yogesh
[17:45] <scurlyear> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16154233/
[17:45] <fkmdn> what's with trolls in this channel?
[17:46] <yogesh> i have installed latest version but it  still  shows error
[17:46] <yogesh> on the browser
[17:47] <scurlyear> fkddn:  trolls will troll, regardless of channel
[17:47] <B0g4r7_> I don't always install flash player, but when I do I install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[17:47] <yogesh> pepperflashplugin-nonfree " i tried this too
[17:47] <smatic11> ?
[17:47] <yogesh> but not helping
[17:47] <smatic11> ?
[17:48] <OerHeks> only on chrome flash works fine
[17:48] <yogesh> no i  tried chrome too
[17:48] <OerHeks> else question the site you want to watch
[17:49] <yogesh> shows update flash player....
[17:49] <emitattuo> I just upgraded to 15.04 from 14.10 (x64) and now have an issue starting X.  I have failures during system startup starting Simple Desktop Display Manager and at the end it throws me to a console login.  I can log in OK, but running startx gives me an error: parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/vtty0 (No such file or directory).  Essentially, I'm trying to get X to start on something other than the non-existent vtty0 and instead use the current
[17:49] <emitattuo> virtual terminal.  I'm perfectly fine with it booting to console, in fact, I prefer it.
[17:49] <Qasker> chrome has updated flash built-in
[17:49] <bekks> !15.04 | emitattuo
[17:49] <Qasker> if site cant use chrome, its the site
[17:49] <OerHeks> fake message, even on windows that button contains malware
[17:49] <compdoc> booting to console is fast
[17:49] <emitattuo> bekks, my mistake.  16.04
[17:49] <scurlyear> I am beinbg asked to install flash player as well, but when I click on thebutton that says "install flash" is alwys blows up
[17:50] <bekks> emitattuo: you cannot update from 14.10 to 16.04 directly.
[17:50] <yogesh> How to change channel?
[17:50] <squinty> yogesh, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[17:50] <emitattuo> bekks: Forgot what year it was, it seems.  Add a year to both of those.  I was using 15.10 and upgraded to 16.04
[17:50] <uRock> If I go to a site and get a popup to install something, then I move on to another site and never look back.
[17:50] <B0g4r7_> emitattuo, you just want to boot into console mode always and remove the gui?
[17:51] <emitattuo> B0g4r7_, yes, but I'd also like X to run with I use startx.
[17:51] <emitattuo> currently it does not.
[17:51] <OerHeks> sudo service lightdm start
[17:51] <bekks> emitattuo: Normally, X is started by lightdm.
[17:51] <scurlyear> bekks:  any thoughts on the screen shot?\
[17:51] <B0g4r7_> mmm, yeah I don't know much about fixing X myself.  Whenever mine breaks I somehow stumble through fixing it and learn nothing about how it works in the process.
[17:52] <bekks> scurlyear: I'm out of that issue, as I told you.
[17:52] <scurlyear> bekks;  I wasn't ignoring you, honest
[17:52] <OerHeks> if you are not sure if you run lightdm, dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[17:53] <emitattuo> bekks, what do you know.  That started X just fine!
[17:53] <emitattuo> B0g4r7_, which is why I'm used to apparently very outdated instructions on how to start X.
[17:54] <curlyears> *geez*
[17:55] <curlyears> I was being heavily distracted locally
[17:55] <Lazik> B0g4r7_ : lolol
[17:55] <curlyears> I have to admit, bitchx has an excellent set of logoff messages
[17:57] <XxNemoxX> How do i install ubuntu
[17:57] <yogesh> COLD FEVER
[17:58] <xcell> exit
[17:58] <\9> !install | XxNemoxX
[17:58] <yogesh> I Having "COLD" what do i install???
[17:59] <emitattuo> B0g4r7_, so then all I have to do is set it up to boot directly into console without GUI.  I remember doing it in Mandrake years ago, but I'll look into how to do it now.
[17:59] <fkmdn> how can I tell the apt that I have an oracle java installed and that openjdk can go straight to trashcan?
[17:59] <emitattuo> yogesh, to join another channel, type /join #channel
[18:00] <fkmdn> i am not feeling safe about java 1.6
[18:00] <yogesh> Which channel is for friendly chat???
[18:00] <B0g4r7_> Used to be I'd just change the system to boot into runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5, but I think it's different these days on ubuntu.
[18:00] <k1l_> !ot | yogesh
[18:00] <emitattuo> yogesh, one moment.
[18:01] <emitattuo> B0g4r7_, exactly what I was thinking.
[18:01] <yogesh> B0g4r7_,
[18:01] <B0g4r7_> These days I just remove ubuntu-desktop and install ubuntu-server, but then I can't run X at all.
[18:02] <yogesh> what type to join channel?
[18:02] <Lazik> B0g4r7_ yep did that too. Did not end well
[18:02] <fkmdn> it's weird i was been in that channel before around ubuntu 13.10 and there was much more people and they were actually helping what's happened
[18:02] <k1l_> B0g4r7_: the 80s called, they want their runlevels back :)
[18:02] <yogesh> tell me command pls
[18:03] <B0g4r7_> k1l_, :)
[18:03] <yogesh> join B0g4r7_
[18:03] <k1l_> yogesh: /join #chanelname
[18:03] <emitattuo> yogesh, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:03] <yogesh> thx dears
[18:03] <fkmdn> is there a package for oracle java that provides all needed dependencies?
[18:03] <dreamaddict> hey guys...I'd like to make a little shell extension, but I have no idea if it exists (or if there is just another clever command that I don't know about that does what I want)
[18:03] <yogesh> lol there is no oneEEEEEEE
[18:03] <yogesh> (-_-)
[18:04] <akik> emitattuo: i just tested on kubuntu 16.04. stopped sddm and ran startx -> segementation fault. looks like it doesn't work any more
[18:04] <yogesh> i am alone...
[18:04] <dreamaddict> yogesh: me too
[18:04] <emitattuo> yogesh, channelname is just an example of a channel.  #ubuntu-offtopic has people in it.
[18:04] <dreamaddict> I'd like, for example, if I am doing "cat <file> | grep <expression", not to have to type the cat command every time
[18:05] <emitattuo> yogesh, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:05] <dreamaddict> to just type "cat <file>" and make it part of like a context, so that I can just type a bunch of greps and play around with it
[18:05] <zykotick9> dreamaddict: ;)  "grep expression file"
[18:05] <dreamaddict> no more than that
[18:05] <zykotick9> dreamaddict: don't use cat when you don't need to...
[18:05] <dreamaddict> ok this pipe redirect command line system has me in a knot right now I guess
[18:05] <B0g4r7_> fkmdn, to remove openjdk, I'd do something like 'apt remove openjdk-9-jre'
[18:05] <dreamaddict> it's new
[18:05] <dreamaddict> to me
[18:06] <fkmdn> but it will remove omegat
[18:06] <ioria> akik, doing the same tests with startx and xinit on lubuntu and mini-install with fluxbox ....  the first  not working, the second yes
[18:06] <dreamaddict> ok but let's say I am doing env | grep <expression>
[18:06] <fkmdn> and all other java software
[18:06] <dreamaddict> what I want is to just open a little window that shows only the output of env
[18:06] <B0g4r7_> mmm, well I'd leave it installed then.
[18:06] <dreamaddict> and then type expressions in for grep and the window changes, kind of pipe them both together into one piece and have the terminal operate on that piece
[18:07] <dreamaddict> until I "back out"...I'll code it if it doesn't exist but I suspect it does
[18:07] <fkmdn> java 1.6 is evil
[18:08] <Hydr0p0nX> As someone that makes a living off Java, yes it is
[18:08] <ksft> anyone know if there's a way to have a keyboard layout make a single key type multiple characters?
[18:08] <B0g4r7_> fkmdn, I guess you could go behind the package manager's back and manually zap all the package's files while letting apt think it's still installed.
[18:08] <B0g4r7_> dpkg -L openjdk-9-jre
[18:09] <viju> Is there any advantage to using 64 bit app over 32 bit?
[18:09] <B0g4r7_> That's not a nice thing to do.  You might make it angry.
[18:09] <Fuchs> ksft: technically you could do that with xmodmap, but I discourage it a bit
[18:09] <Fuchs> ksft: the compose key is probably the better solution here
[18:09] <ksft> why do you discourage it?
[18:09] <ksft> also, how do you customize the compose key?
[18:09] <B0g4r7_> viju, often there is a slight performance advantage.  Sometimes there is a large performance gain or other advantage.
[18:10] <Fuchs> or xbindkey or autokey, that also works
[18:10] <ksft> like which keys type which characters with it
[18:10] <Fuchs> ksft: in the .XCompose file in your home folder
[18:10] <ksft> yeah, I was thinking I might have it type an unused unicode character, then have AutoKey or something turn that into multiple characters
[18:10] <dreamaddict> is there a non-alphanumeric key on the keyboard that isn't already designated by terminal/linux as a well-recognized command?
[18:10] <jo__> hi
[18:10] <jo__> ji
[18:11] <effectnet> woo
[18:11] <ksft> Fuchs: I have tried editing that, but it hasn't changed how the compose key works
[18:11] <emitattuo> dreamaddict, I guess it would depend on your keyboard.
[18:11] <dreamaddict> I guess I have this windows button on my keyboard, that does I-don't-know-what on linux
[18:11] <Fuchs> ksft: it should. Anyway, you could xbindkey or autokey or xmodmap it, but imo that's dangerous, as various programs might not work as epxected afterwards if you use keys they have bound to something
[18:12] <pauljw> dreamaddict, that's the super key, i'd leave it alone
[18:12] <dreamaddict> ok see that's what I am asking about :)
[18:12] <dreamaddict> is there a key that I can "not leave alone"?
[18:12] <dreamaddict> or are they allll taken up already?
[18:12] <emitattuo> scroll lock?
[18:13] <ksft> Fuchs: do I need to do something after I change .XCompose?
[18:13] <dreamaddict> maybe
[18:13] <dreamaddict> I actually don't see scroll lock on this keyboard
[18:13] <Fuchs> ksft: I think it should be read automatically
[18:13] <ksft> it isn't working
[18:13] <dreamaddict> it apparently though, like many new keyboards, defaults to something other than the actual function key for F1-F12
[18:14] <emitattuo> It's on there, maybe as a modified key.
[18:14] <emitattuo> dreamaddict, that is a very annoying trend.
[18:14] <dreamaddict> which have these little derpy icons, so what are those keycodes I wonder
[18:14] <dreamaddict> I know, but in this case if Linux doesn't care about derpy icons, then I will jack a few of them for my own purposes
[18:15] <ksft> Fuchs: I added another line to ~/.XCompose, but it isn't working
[18:15] <Fuchs> ksft: can I have a look at that file, and what does it (not) do?
[18:15] <emitattuo> dreamaddict, if those derpy keycodes are read by Linux, then you could certainly assign them.  Though you may want to try and reverse the defaults to F1-F12 and leave the derpy ones as secondary.
[18:15] <ksft> I added this to the end:
 <A> <A>                             : "∀"   U2200
[18:16] <ksft> I can't type the for all symbol
[18:16] <dreamaddict> turns out they are already defaulted :)
[18:17] <pauljw> dreamaddict, if you go to system setting; keyboard; shortcuts and look for disabled keyboard shortcuts, you might find some you can use.
[18:17] <dreamaddict> but...yeah, there are very particular keycodes for the icons
[18:17] <ksft> Fuchs: ^
[18:17] <Fuchs> ksft: that should work, note that the U2200 is optional
[18:17] <Fuchs> let me try that
[18:17] <dreamaddict> I just used xev right now to look, they have these big symbols and names for some fancy OS where the dude using it doesn't even know or care about it
[18:18] <de-facto> !info xdotool | ksft if you want to script keyboard input
[18:18] <curlyears> OK, well, thanks for all the help, especially to you bekks. SOrry about the confusion
[18:19] <smatic11> Live CD method of opening a encrypted home directory?
[18:19] <de-facto> ksft you also can input unicode with press and hold Ctrl + Shift + u release type the hexcode, press enter
[18:19] <de-facto> or space
[18:20] <ksft> de-facto: oh, that's useful
[18:20] <ksft> I would like to be able to customize the compose key, though
[18:21] <de-facto> be carefull compose key might have other functionality which modifying it woudl be shadowed then
[18:21] <Fuchs> hm, okay, odd. That doesn't work indeed, and no log entries indicating why
[18:21] <BotaniCar_> hi, how can i see ATI R9290 temperature readings on ubuntu 16 ? "sensors" didn't detect it, and i use default driver.
[18:21] <ksft> de-facto: what other functionality?
[18:21] <emitattuo> compose and super are both modifier keys like alt and ctrl, ksft.
[18:21] <de-facto> depends on your system
[18:22] <de-facto> ksft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input
[18:23] <emitattuo> They're not used nearly as much as alt and control, but certainly with inputting unicode and sometimes with certain programs.
[18:25] <emitattuo> ksft, if you were dead-set on using those keys, then I'd recommend setting it to activate on release instead of key press
[18:25] <B0g4r7_> Sometimes to manipulate a gnome panel I have to hold ctrl-alt-shift-super-compose-tab-unicorn
[18:25] <ksft> I'm not "dead=set on using those keys"; I just want to know how to customize the compose key.
[18:25] <ksft> "dead-set"*
[18:25] <ksft> dead-set**
[18:27] <emitattuo> ksft, I guess the question would be then in what way would you like to modify it?  Does it need to be modified throughout the system, so if you were in the virtual console it would work the same way, only using the graphical inteface, or just within a certain program, or just as needed?
[18:27] <cpined> hello, please help.  After upgrading 14.10 to 15.10 I'm not able to stay logged in I automatically get logged off, but if I enter ctrl+alt+f2 I'm able to login.
[18:28] <ksft> emitattuo: I guess it doesn't matter much
[18:30] <emitattuo> ksft, if you only need it for a specific program, there are simple macro programs/applets that would do he trick.
[18:31] <emitattuo> Actually, those would work for everything but the console.
[18:31] <emitattuo> (and the login screen)
[18:31] <ksft> I would like to be able to use it in terminals
[18:31] <ksft> mostly for IRC
[18:32] <jo__> how we can meet ?
[18:32] <jo__> mit
[18:32] <emitattuo> If you're mostly using it for IRC, it might be easiest and cause the least disruption throughout the rest of the system if you used the IRC client's built-in macro function.
[18:32] <hammer> hey, i just ran ubuntu 14.04 from a live usb, and i couldnt connect to the wife. why is the mac address different from the one i have one win 10?
[18:33] <hammer> wifi*
[18:33] <jo__> hów we can mit ?
[18:33] <jo__> hogyan talalkozhatunk ?
[18:34] <akik> !hu
[18:35] <hammer> anyone?
[18:35] <emitattuo> hammer, the MAC address shouldn't change, I don't believe.  It wouldn't automatically know the password for the wifi, though.
[18:35] <akik> hammer: check out your mac addresses with "ifconfig -a | grep HW"
[18:35] <yogesh> anybody tell me Friendly CHat Channel?
[18:36] <jinette> hello everyone, is there by any chance someone here from Shuttleworth Foundation?
[18:36] <hammer> emitattuo: I ran ifconfig, and it's definitely different than windows 10. It's showing me the wlan0 address
[18:36] <emitattuo> yogesh: /join ##socialize
[18:36] <emitattuo> yogesh: /join ##chat
[18:37] <hammer> any ideas why it would be different?
[18:38] <akik> hammer: gather your info from windows and ubuntu and pastebin them
[18:38] <ksft> emitattuo: what if I would rather do it through the system?
[18:38] <hammer> akik: what kind of info do i need?
[18:38] <emitattuo> ksft, I'm sure it's possible, but I'm not familiar how.
[18:38] <Rooster> Does anyone know how I can SSH into Ubuntu while I'm away?
[18:38] <emitattuo> hammer: do you know how to get to a command prompt in windows?
[18:38] <hammer> yes
[18:39] <emitattuo> get into an administrator command prompt (right click and run as administrator), then type ipconfig /all and look for MAC address.
[18:39] <emitattuo> !ssh Rooster
[18:40] <yogesh> how to register your self
[18:40] <emitattuo> !ssh
[18:40] <yogesh> in channel
[18:40] <akik> hammer: get the mac addresses from windows and ubuntu and put them into pastebin
[18:40] <Rooster> emitattuo: I wasn't specific, I mean if I wanted to access Ubuntu from my phone (Android)
[18:40] <Rooster> And I was away from home
[18:41] <de-facto> yogesh read this, then ask in #freenode https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
[18:41] <phgsouto> Rooster use juicessh
[18:41] <Rooster> #freenode has to authorize voice, which is dumb
[18:41] <emitattuo> Rooster, the process is similar.  You'd need a SSH client for the phone.
[18:41] <phgsouto> is available in play store
[18:41] <nchambers> Rooster, its not at all
[18:41] <hammer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16155846/
[18:42] <jinette> ok solved, thank you :)
[18:42] <Rooster> I don't like it being recommended because if I have to wait for voice permission then I'll never get an issue solved.
[18:43] <nchambers> Rooster, you're always welcome to PM staff
[18:43] <emitattuo> yogesh appears to be a beginner.
[18:43] <Rooster> nchambers: True
[18:44] <hammer> akik: i put the paste in the above
[18:44] <akik> hammer: you only have one interface (wlan) in your machine?
[18:45] <de-facto> hammer thats a bit weird, what vendor is your wifi? the win does not appear in databases, the lnx is "epigram, inc."?
[18:45] <mansub> who are you
[18:45] <hammer> akik: running ifconfig shows lo and wlan0, thats it
[18:45] <mansub> how to install vlc
[18:45] <akik> hammer: try ifconfig -a
[18:45] <emitattuo> yogesh: Replace "password" with the password you want to use and replace "youremail@example.com" with your email address.  /msg Nick­Serv REG­IS­TER pass­word youre­mail@ex­am­ple.com
[18:45] <hammer> de-facto: my laptop is a dell xps 15 9550
[18:46] <emitattuo> Then check your email and click the link.
[18:46] <mansub> hello
[18:46] <emitattuo> hello mansub
[18:46] <reisio> mansub: it's in the 'universe' repo
[18:46] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[18:47] <de-facto> hammer dell uses a load of different hardware vendors afaik even in one product like
[18:47] <mansub> i am telling you how to install vlc media player in this os
[18:47] <emitattuo> Is the software center still in 16.04?
[18:47] <imr> yes
[18:48] <reisio> it's just called 'software' or something now, though
[18:48] <Guido1> I can't acces folders which are on an windows XP home computer.
[18:48] <emitattuo> that's nice and confusing.
[18:48] <reisio> Guido1: why can't you
[18:48] <de-facto> hammer you might find out something with    lshw -C network
[18:49] <hammer> de-facto: now ubuntu isnt even booting....
[18:49] <Guido1> reisio: The message I get is that I'm not autorised.
[18:49] <reisio> Guido1: the message you get from what
[18:49] <emitattuo> de-facto, yes, they use whatever is cheapest at the time.
[18:49] <yogesh> h
[18:49] <yogesh> hi
[18:49] <Guido1> reisio: from Linux using the explorer
[18:49] <jo__> j
[18:49] <jo__> ji
[18:50] <mansub> yiygy
[18:50] <de-facto> hammer hmm what did you change, what do you mean by not booting? im gonna get afk, brb later
[18:50] <reisio> Guido1: you might find the line/s for the FSes in /etc/fstab and comment them out
[18:50] <reisio> then umount them, or reboot; then mount them from the file manager only
[18:51] <hammer> de-facto: i didnt change anything. i selected try ubuntu without installing like i did last time, its stuck on the splash screen
[18:51] <hammer> de-facto: I've had trouble before, this is actually the first time KVM has worked, but it stopped after a few minutes and i had to restart
[18:51] <Guido1> reisio: what are the commands?
[18:51] <mansub> how to make partition in ubuntu 16.04
[18:52] <de-facto> hammer gonna have to leave for now, i will be back later, maybe some other guys can help
[18:52] <hammer> de-facto: ok, thank you for your time
[18:53] <kareeoleez> my /dev/root       7.2G  7.2G     0 100% / is full and I can't apt-get remove packages, any ideas ?
[18:56] <Guido1> reisio: (windows XP can acces the files on the linux laptop.)
[18:56] <BluesKaj> kareeoleez, sudo apt-autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[18:56] <akik> kareeoleez: you can drill down to the usage with "du -sk /*" then go from there and see what filled your hd
[18:56] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge , to remove old kernels
[18:57] <BluesKaj> kareeoleezcorrectio: , sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[18:57] <Guido1> I can't acces folders which are on an windows XP home computer. (windows XP can acces the files on the linux laptop. I also can't print using the printer on the same XP - Need some username and pasword)
[18:57] <Inocuous> I like that Ubuntu cleans up after itself really well.
[18:58] <hammer> anyone have any ideas why windows 10 and ubuntu are showing two different mac addresses?
[18:59] <hammer> fuck it, i can't even get the fucking mouse to work for more than 2 minutes
[18:59] <kfa> hello together there is also a german caht her
[18:59] <kfa> sorry chat
[18:59] <kareeoleez> thank you all, it seems 60MB were freed but the apt-get goes on
[18:59] <Bashing-om> kareeoleez: " 0 100% / is ful " There is doubt that the package manager has the operating head room . If 'autoremove' fails there is manual intervention with 'dpkg' that operates at a lower level .
[18:59] <geralt2> testing
[19:00] <geralt2> \0/ hi guys
[19:00] <Fuchs> kfa: #ubuntu-de for German support, yes
[19:00] <fortean_dad> hammer: just out of interest, how are you running ubuntu? is it a liveusb booted fresh, or other?
[19:00] <Fuchs> kfa: if you are for looking something else: alis might be able to help,  /msg alis help list
[19:00] <kfa> thanks
[19:00] <hammer> fortean_dad: live usb
[19:00] <yogesh> what is logg in command for any channel
[19:00] <deniljoseph> I have xp installed in my pc and i have a partition of 10gb completely free can i install ubuntu in there ??
[19:01] <OerHeks> hammer, question windows 10, why they change the mac, it can be done software-wise in windows/linux so check their settings, is there a manual mac adress set?
[19:01] <Fuchs> yogesh: for your account here?  /msg nickserv help identify
[19:01] <Fuchs> yogesh: I recommend you set up SASL though
[19:01] <Bashing-om> deniljoseph: While yes .. a minimum of 30 Gigs is recommended for long term .
[19:01] <jonatan> deniljoseph: probubly but you will not have mutch space for programs
[19:01] <akik> hammer: do you have a ethernet interface in your machine? it would be interesting to see if that interface's mac address also changes
[19:01] <hammer> akik: i do not, just wireless
[19:01] <deniljoseph> Its k i just want to browse internet thats all
[19:02] <deniljoseph> Nothing much
[19:02] <hammer> oerheks: how do i check that?
[19:02] <fortean_dad> hammer: odd one isn't it?
[19:02] <deniljoseph> Internet browsing experience in xp is really weired
[19:02] <hammer> fortean_dad: what do you mean?
[19:02] <akik> hammer: the fact is that you can change the mac address with software. but i haven't heard why ubuntu would do it
[19:02] <OerHeks> hammer network settings, try to edit the current
[19:03] <geralt2> guys, can anyone please help me? i am on a laptop inspiron 7520, with 2 video cards, tryed to switch to fglrx video drivers from GUI, but they had same problem - didnt worked properly with 2 monitors, they tried to switch to xrog throu GUI again, its ended up with my drivers couldnt load at all =( i am not so good with ubuntu, what should i do? (ubuntu 14.04)
[19:03] <deniljoseph> So i have iso of ubuntu 10.4 can some one assist me for getting the task done
[19:03] <Bashing-om> dannymichel: Install away ! When you are comfortable with ubuntu .. will have the experience to know what you want to change/expand .
[19:04] <fortean_dad> hammer: that 2 OSes show different mac addresses. can't find any info on the windows one, maybe the os is playing around with it?
[19:04] <vamadir> Problem with iptables. ubuntu14.04 LTS on virtualbox internal network. Can not open ports. Already maked flush rules iptables -X, -t nat -F, nat -X, mangle -F, mangle -X,-P INPUT ACCEPT, -P FORWARD ACCEPT, -P OUTPUT ACCEPT. Nothing. Just only one listen ssh at netstat
[19:05] <Bashing-om> !10.04 | deniljoseph
[19:05] <dannymichel> excuse me Bashing-om ?
[19:06] <geralt2> so anyone can help me with starting xorg drivers?
[19:06] <deniljoseph> Ooops i don't have a good data plan to download 15 or 16
[19:06] <derbie> I've installed the latest vbox and additions. Can't figure out a solution for this error. Anyone familiar please? http://codepad.org/ekUQgSF6
[19:07] <Bashing-om> dannymichel: Sorry .. slip of the autocomplete .. deniljoseph ^^.
[19:07] <geralt2> ok, ill try to do something on my own and will return if will not be able to fix this
[19:07] <geralt2> quit
[19:09] <yogesh> i have register my account but cant logged in plases tell me login command
[19:09] <akik> hammer: on kubuntu 14.04 network manager there's a place in the connections settings "cloned mac address"
[19:09] <Bashing-om> deniljoseph: The changes from 10.04 to 14.04 are great .. A very high degree of uncertanity that the upgrade would have success .. and a LOT of time and bandwidth involved .. not worth the effort to attempt the release upgrade .
[19:09] <akik> hammer: sorry, kubuntu 16.04
[19:10] <mariano> I am unable to install thrid party applications like chrome. Can someone help me out?
[19:10] <hammer> akik: so my wireless card is supposedly a Dell Wireless 1830, but ubuntu sees it as a BCM43602
[19:11] <akik> hammer: i'm pretty sure dell doesn't make their own wireless chips
[19:11] <hammer> akik: so the 1830 is what dell calls the BCM43602?
[19:12] <akik> hammer: i don't know more than BCM means broadcom
[19:12] <unitypunk> hello everyboody
[19:12] <deniljoseph> @bashing-om but i cant afford to download the latest one :(
[19:12] <deniljoseph> Bashing-om
[19:13] <unitypunk> i am having boot trouble
[19:13] <akik> hammer: do you need to change the mac address on ubuntu side? did you check your wireless settings for "cloned mac address" ?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> deniljoseph: 10.04 has NO support . To go from 10.04 to current release is 100 times the bandwidth to download 14.04 .
[19:14] <unitypunk> my pc runs windows 10, i unplugged the drive, installed ubuntu on another drive, but now when i plug both in, t boots straight to windows 10, and doesnt give me options to boot to ubuntu
[19:14] <hammer> akik: it's all kind of moot at this point, see as i can't get my keyboard or mouse input to function for more than a few minutes
[19:14] <mariano> By the way, I'm on 16.04.
[19:15] <deniljoseph> Bashing-om actually i already have the iso file with me so downloading 14 again would be a great task for me in my locality
[19:15] <akik> hammer: there's a linux kernel parameter called acpi_osi which changes some hardware operations
[19:16] <akik> hammer: you could try if changing that parameter makes any change
[19:16] <zykotick9> mariano: are you using a 32bit version of ubuntu?  what does "uname -m" return? <- from a terminal
[19:16] <hammer> akik: how would i change that param?
[19:16] <mariano> zykotick9 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:16] <yogesh> hi pls tell me command to loggin in to any channel?
[19:16] <mariano> Oh I mean it returns x86-64
[19:17] <akik> hammer: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
[19:17] <mariano> x86_64
[19:17] <zykotick9> mariano: ok, just checking, google dropped 32bit chrome... but that's not your issue.
[19:17] <Bashing-om> deniljoseph: The only best practice advise I can offer is download 14.04 .iso ( older hardware here ) .
[19:17] <akik> hammer: then make note of the values (maybe the latest?) and then edit /etc/default/grub and add it there
[19:18] <\9> deniljoseph: if you install 10.04, you'll need to upgrade at least two releases up anyway
[19:18] <flickwitwhore> http://pastebin.com/gRpDddFF
[19:18] <hammer> akik: /etc/default/grub being a file path, right?
[19:18] <\9> so you'll wind up using up more bandwidth with the updates
[19:18] <\9> that is if the upgrades even work since the task is so massive
[19:18] <deniljoseph> So you can't help me install 10 in my PC currently? Bashing-om
[19:18] <akik> hammer: yes
[19:18] <mariano> I also tried installing dropbox from the dropbox website and I couldn't install that either. The software app opens up, but when I click install nothing happens. I just read that it is a bug.
[19:19] <yogesh>  hi pls tell me command to loggin in to any channel?
[19:19] <\9> yogesh: /join #channel
[19:19] <deniljoseph> \9 without update i can't even use it?
[19:19] <\9> deniljoseph: you technically can. but it is completely unsupported and your computer is wide open for attack
[19:19] <Inocuous> yogesh, /join #Channelname
[19:19] <hammer> akik: ok, thanks, i'll try that. i'm like 90% sure the windows 10 mac address is the original one, ubuntu must be changing it for some reason
[19:19] <yogesh> not that to chat
[19:19] <Bashing-om> deniljoseph: While possible .. can you not accept that doing so is not in your best interest ? We do have some experience here . 10.04 has NO support .
[19:19] <\9> deniljoseph: 10.04 hasn't seen security updates for the past 3 years
[19:19] <akik> hammer: you need to use e.g. sudo nano /etc/default/grub, go to line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add there the following acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"
[19:19] <yogesh> to chat into channel
[19:20] <akik> hammer: after saving the file you need to run sudo update-grub
[19:20] <\9> deniljoseph: using the internet with 10.04 is a recipe for disaster
[19:21] <hammer> akik: what does sudo nano do?
[19:21] <akik> hammer: it will open the file in an editor as root
[19:21] <deniljoseph> \9 all i want is copy files and lill internet and security just forget it i dont mind but could you plz help me set up my pc
[19:21] <\9> hammer: sudo runs a command as root. nano is a simple command-line text editor
[19:21] <deniljoseph> 10.4
[19:21] <hammer> akik: i see
[19:22] <\9> deniljoseph: 10.04 is off topic here
[19:22] <deniljoseph> Oh
[19:23] <\9> the keyword here is unsupported
[19:23] <mariano> Since I can't install third party apps with the gnome software center is gdebi a safe alternative?
[19:23] <\9> and this is the support channel
[19:23] <deniljoseph> So no help for me to set it up
[19:23] <\9> i'm afraid you either need to get a supported version or you're on your own
[19:23] <derbie> I've installed the latest vbox and additions. Can't figure out a solution for this error. Anyone familiar please? http://codepad.org/ekUQgSF6
[19:23] <deniljoseph> May i know a channel to get help to set up 10.4
[19:23] <deniljoseph> Hmm k
[19:24] <fossel> mariano: definitely
[19:24] <\9> deniljoseph: any channel here will likely just tell you the same we have been, to get an up to date version
[19:24] <mariano> Does anyone know if they are working on this bug? Sorry I'm relatively new to linux.
[19:24] <bleezy> I'm having trouble with ubuntu running really slow and if i open the browser my screen tweaks out and freezes.
[19:24] <Bashing-om> deniljoseph: We will not help you cut your throat . 10.04 is un-supported . take the effort to get 14.04 and then we can/will help .
[19:25] <deniljoseph> Actually can you please try to understand my current situation
[19:25] <\9> anyway I got laundry to deal with now, afk
[19:25] <unitypunk> can anyone lend me a hand with some boot issues? 3 hard drives, all with different operating systems ( wind10, xp and ubuntu)  all three boot fine independantly, but when all are plugged in, it boots straight to win 10 giving me no options.
[19:25] <deniljoseph> In my locality the maximum speed that i get is 50-60kbps then how could i download a 1gb file
[19:26] <deniljoseph> \9
[19:26] <lars22> Have somebody streamed development through livecoding.tv?
[19:27] <\9> when i had 50-60kbps i downloaded isos overnight
[19:27] <\9> anyway really afk now
[19:27] <fossel> mariano: i've personally gone back to 14.04 because 16.04 is too buggy. do you have synaptic installed, it works flawlessly unlike gnome software (aka ubuntu software)
[19:27] <unitypunk> yup
[19:27] <deniljoseph> Afk?
[19:27] <unitypunk> do it over night.
[19:28] <mariano> fossel, I tjust downloaded it. Yea, I got all sorts of problems. Dropbox icon indicator is also not working and my laptop's fan is all over the place lol
[19:29] <fossel> mariano: lol my fan was going bezerk all the time!
[19:29] <TheMarius> actually my system runs fine now but theres a few crashes
[19:29] <TheMarius> i send in bug reports though
[19:30] <mariano> I'll try to reinstall 16.04 and see if that fixes things. Otherwise, I'm back to 14.04
[19:31] <TheMarius> ubuntu mate?
[19:31] <Dannn> i am having some small issues with 16.04 too
[19:31] <TheMarius> ubuntu mate runs fairly well maybe try that one
[19:31] <TheMarius> no worse than say linux mint
[19:31] <mariano> I will, I'm on xubuntu, but I'll give mate a try.
[19:32] <bleezy> I'm having trouble with ubuntu running really slow and if i open the browser my screen tweaks out and freezes.
[19:32] <TheMarius> umm... yes a bit with the crashes .. but its ok
[19:32] <Evan__> How long should Lubuntu install take?
[19:32] <B0g4r7_> I still have an 11.04 vm running.  I really need to get it upgraded.
[19:33] <unitypunk> can anyone lend me a hand with some boot issues? 3 hard drives, all with different operating systems ( wind10, xp and ubuntu)  all three boot fine independantly, but when all are plugged in, it boots straight to win 10 giving me no options.
[19:34] <B0g4r7_> Evan__, that varies a lot depending on hardware.
[19:34] <google111> hi
[19:34] <B0g4r7_> On a fast system with an SSD, installing from fast source media, I could see an install getting done inside of 10 minutes.
[19:35] <google111> okay
[19:35] <alkisg> unitypunk: most BIOSes have options to select which disk to boot from, select the one with ubuntu when you have all 3 disks connected
[19:35] <unitypunk> it took me hours on a 1.8ghz 1gb ram..
[19:35] <Evan__> To unitypunk: when you boot your computer, hit f10 or f12, that will get you to your bios. Select your drive there.
[19:35] <unitypunk> alkisg, MY BIOS ONLY LETS ME CHOOSE TO BOOT TO "HDD" BUT NOT WHICH HDD :(
[19:35] <unitypunk> whoops sorry.
[19:36] <alkisg> unitypunk: did you (1) enter bios with Del, and/or (2) find the f11/f12 boot menu?
[19:36] <B0g4r7_> Sounds like some uefi vs legacy boot kinda thing.
[19:36] <unitypunk> both
[19:36] <unitypunk> my boot options with f12 are usb, floppy, hdd, network
[19:36] <Evan__> Darn
[19:37] <unitypunk> in bios i dont have any way to choose which drive boots.
[19:37] <alkisg> unitypunk: can you connect them with different sata order, sata 1/2/3 in the motherboard?
[19:37] <Evan__> Go into HDD and find the right HDD
[19:37] <ioria> unusual for an efi bios
[19:37] <unitypunk> yes, but then itll only boot to xp or ubuntu
[19:37] <B0g4r7_> You may also find that it makes a difference...yeah, what alkisg said.
[19:37] <unitypunk> with no options to get to the other drives.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> bleezy: Pops to mind is ram,/swap . How much ram does the box have .. and how much swap ? ' free -m ' to know .
[19:38] <B0g4r7_> You need to get grub onto onto one of those MBRs.
[19:38] <alkisg> unitypunk: if all else fails, you'll need to boot with live cd and grub-install to all your disk drivers, but leave that one as the last resort
[19:38] <alkisg> Haha B0g4r7_ you were faster on that one :)
[19:38] <unitypunk> B0g4r7_, it should be on the ubuntu install right?
[19:38] <ioria> unitypunk, a sudo parted -l | pastebinit could help
[19:38] <B0g4r7_> unitypunk, should be
[19:39] <unitypunk> ioria, dos doesnt like it when you tlak dirty like that.. if there is any doss on windows 10 :-p
[19:40] <unitypunk> B0g4r7_, hmm ill give that a shot but i have a feeling its just gonna boot to linux with no options for xp or win10
[19:40] <B0g4r7_> unitypunk, try holding shift as it boots into ubuntu, see if a grub menu comes up.
[19:40] <ioria> unitypunk, to display linux partitions and infos about them ? don't think so
[19:41] <B0g4r7_> (as it begins to boot.  very early in the process.)
[19:41] <unitypunk> ok boog. bbiab maybe
[19:47] <Inocuous> catpoop, dude, that's original.
[19:57] <unitypunk> B0g4r7_, well, i hit the bootloader
[19:57] <unitypunk> but it didnt have the two drives for xp and win 10
[19:58] <B0g4r7_> There you go.  Now you just gotta configure grub to add them boot options, and maybe to show the boot menu by default.
[19:58] <unitypunk> is there a way i can add them from here, or do i need to boot to live usb to add them to the list?
[19:58] <B0g4r7_> Should be able to add in this context.
[20:00] <Bashing-om> unitypunk: B0g4r7_ While booted into ubuntu - ' sudo update-grub ' to pick up the other installs and chaninload to ubuntu's boot menu ??
[20:01] <B0g4r7_> I'm not sure exactly how, but there's config files in /etc/grub, /boot/grub, and in /etc/default/grub*
[20:01] <unitypunk> ohhh
[20:01] <B0g4r7_> What Bashing-om said might do the trick.
[20:01] <unitypunk> thanks Bashing-om!
[20:01] <unitypunk> Found Windows 10 (loader) on /dev/sdb1
[20:01] <unitypunk> Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sdc
[20:02] <B0g4r7_> Sounds promising.
[20:02] <unitypunk> very
[20:02] <Bashing-om> unitypunk: Should do the trick , and will not effect the boot code on the other 2 drives .
[20:02] <unitypunk> do i need to edit the grub config manually to add the wait time?
[20:02] <unitypunk> or time to select
[20:02] <Bashing-om> unitypunk: Maybe ,,, the default is 10 seconds .
[20:02] <unitypunk> oh, that works fine.
[20:03] <unitypunk> how about default os to boot?
[20:03] <unitypunk> wait
[20:03] <unitypunk> this is too easy
[20:03] <unitypunk> i can probably just figure that one out with google haha
[20:03] <B0g4r7_> ;)
[20:03] <Bashing-om> unitypunk: " ubuntu, if it is hard - you are doing something wrong " .
[20:04] <unitypunk> haha
[20:06] <recon_lap> so, adding propriety nvida driver and intel mini code driver and now can only get black screen on boot or root cmd line :( xubuntu 16.04
[20:06] <luvenfu> hello folks! i have a problem with ethernet interface in ubuntu 14.04, that's weird because i had wifi problems instead, but here is the error: http://paste.debian.net/448213/
[20:07] <unitypunk> crap. how do i know which entry is which
[20:08] <luvenfu> unitypunk: ?
[20:09] <Bashing-om> recon_lap: How did you install the Nvidia proprietary driver ?
[20:09] <unitypunk> trying to change default boot os in grub, but i dont know which one is 0 and theres 7 entries
[20:09] <unitypunk> or 5..
[20:09] <yogesh> hi
[20:09] <Bashing-om> unitypunk: 0 is the 1st entry .
[20:09] <unitypunk> is it just top to bottom 0-9
[20:09] <recon_lap> Bashing-om: using the additional drivers tab in software manager
[20:09] <recon_lap> update-manager?
[20:10] <unitypunk> so i gotta reboot to figure out which one i want to be default.
[20:10] <luvenfu> eth0 not working after ubuntu update after installation, reporting to ubuntu.
[20:10] <unitypunk> ehehe
[20:10] <luvenfu> version 14.04
[20:10] <VinceN> Hey Everyone!  Was hoping someone could help me solve a minor mystery with SSH and KeyPair Authentication
[20:10] <recon_lap> Bashing-om: in "software and updates"
[20:11] <Bashing-om> recon_lap: Ouch . Additional drivers rarely makes a mistake . what returns - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - to see what the hardware is .
[20:11] <VinceN> I used PuttyGen to create a keypair and saved the Public Key to the Server and set Putty to authenticate using the keypair.  When I connect however it says that the server refused the key.  I've doublechecked the guides i'm using and can't seem to figure out what i'm screwing up.
[20:13] <recon_lap> Bashing-om: still having difficulty getting the system to boot
[20:14] <Bashing-om> recon_lap: On this instance .. try at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console interface .
[20:14] <VinceN> any idea's on where to start?  I've made sure the public key is one line.  Putty is using the private key saved from PuttyGen.  I've added the key locations ot the authorized keyfiles option in sshd_config and the permissions seem right to me
[20:14] <tambu> Using Cinnamon, where are the settings to turn the display off after 10 mins? I found some settings in the control panel and set them to 10 min but the screen never turns off the screensaver stays on
[20:15] <yedderson> I don't have boot.log in my logs folder how do I enable boot logging in xubuntu 16.04 ?
[20:16] <recon_lap> hell, just did look back at the root cmd's and sure as hell looks like someone been through my system from root account.
[20:16] <reisio> looks in what way
[20:17] <recon_lap> there is a 'cat passwd' in my root cmd log. wtf
[20:18] <curlyears> OK..I can't seem to download and install gnome, for some srange reason.  Anyone that can tellme where to find 'mate"?
[20:18] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: what's wrong with running 'cat passwd'?
[20:19] <reisio> curlyears: why can't you?
[20:19] <reisio> not remembering having run such a thing, for starters
[20:19] <curlyears> LambdaComplex:  there is no valid reason for anyone but the system adminstrator to be trying to look at the passwd file
[20:20] <reisio> there a valid reason for the sysadmin to? :p
[20:20] <LambdaComplex> curlyears: absolute statements are generally false, you know
[20:21] <recon_lap> Bashing-om: think I'm going to have to wipe this system, it auto reboot after a couple of min at root console
[20:21] <curlyears> reisio: it fails on a dependency on something called "inkscape."  When I try to apt-get inkscape, it faisl with erros about many (about 15) failed dendencies from various thiings inluding various .lib files
[20:21] <LambdaComplex> curlyears: and he said "root cmd log," anyways
[20:21] <curlyears> I tried the -f flag on apt-get with no  luck.
[20:22] <LambdaComplex> reisio: getting a list of users is a pretty good reason, i'd say
[20:22] <curlyears> on a related note, I have ben receiving prompts about availabel system updates, but when I RUN THEM, THEY FAIL.
[20:23] <curlyears> LambdaComplex:  He also says he doesn;t recall issuing those copmmands
[20:24] <LambdaComplex> curlyears: maybe he has sshd running on port 22 with root login via password enabled
[20:24]  * LambdaComplex shrugs
[20:24] <recon_lap> there appears to be a boot script on my system that is reading all my security files and ending with a reboot cmd when i boot to root cmd line recovery mode.
[20:24] <promet> Heya, I installed wasteland 2 from gog.com and I seem to get a core dump while it's looking for libs, core dumps at line #94 in the games config file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16158153/
[20:25] <curlyears> again, there is no valid reason for anyone bu the system, adminstrator to be attempting to view the passwd file.  It suggests someone  is trying to hack the system
[20:25] <reisio> well, not remembering commands in history might anyway
[20:25] <curlyears> of course, if they accessed it as 'root' it would seem they had alreadh successfully hacked the sysem
[20:25] <promet> I tried doing a symbolic link from my system lib folder in the game's directory, replacing it's own lib folder. No dice though same error; line #94
[20:26] <LambdaComplex> uh, is there even any useful information in passwd as far as hacking is concerned?
[20:26] <LambdaComplex> oh wow, now i have the uids and gids of the users. big deal
[20:26] <curlyears> reisio:  woould you like to see pastebins of the attemps?
[20:27] <reisio> curlyears: of the attempts of what?
[20:27] <recon_lap> curlyears: looks very much like something got onto my system anyway, those commands are totally not right.
[20:27] <promet> I am on trusty, 64bit, btw...
[20:28] <curlyears> LambdaComplex:  you're missing the point.  Whether they cn successfully glean any useful informatioin from passwd, it stil suggests someone is trying to hack his system
[20:28] <promet> also, nvidia gtx 750 gfx
[20:28] <curlyears> reisio:  trying to install gnome and inkscape
[20:28] <reisio> recon_lap: if you're waiting for someone to say "no, they are fine", don't
[20:28] <reisio> curlyears: oh, sure
[20:29] <recon_lap> looks to me like all my security system files have been rifled through, sudoer's ect
[20:29] <curlyears> hang on. i'll go generate them
[20:29] <LambdaComplex> "doing something that isn't useful at all when trying to hack suggests someone is trying to hack"
[20:29] <LambdaComplex> ok den
[20:30] <recon_lap> it's a script running at boot, so I suspect I just installed it with some software and it's sending the info off to some hacker.
[20:30] <reisio> mildly interested in seeing how long recon_lap can keep this exposition up
[20:30] <LambdaComplex> reisio: whatcha mean by "exposition?"
[20:30] <LambdaComplex> also shouldn't apt have a way to tell package installed a file?
[20:31] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16158350/  <---gnome attempt
[20:31] <reisio> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/exposition#Noun
[20:31] <recon_lap> booted to a live usb, where would I find startup scripts
[20:31] <LambdaComplex> i'll be surprised if it doesn't, but i don't know the command
[20:31] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: you said you're on 16.04, right?
[20:31] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: yes. 16.04
[20:31] <LambdaComplex> wouldn't that (probably) be a systemd service then?
[20:31] <reisio> that's odd, inkscape is not part of gnome
[20:31] <reisio> curlyears: what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:32] <trism> promet: what's the output for ldd on the 64bit binary?
[20:32] <recon_lap> actualy, where would I find the previous root cmd list on the system ?
[20:32] <reisio> root's 'history', root's ~/.bash_history
[20:32] <reisio> and sudo might have its own logs
[20:32] <reisio> kind of a pointless exercise, though
[20:33] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16158385/  <-- attempt to install inkscape
[20:33] <reisio> the only way this ends in you feel secure about your system again, without reinstalling, is if you realize your memory is /awful/
[20:33] <k1l_> curlyears: "apt-cache policy inkscape | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:33] <reisio> you feeling*
[20:33] <curlyears> reisio:  14.04.4 LTS
[20:33] <reisio> 14.04.4 is a version :p
[20:33] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: so did you actually find the script that's doing this?
[20:34] <curlyears> k1l_:  http://termbin.com/va9t
[20:35] <k1l_> curlyears: your 3rd party repo is causing trouble
[20:36] <k1l_> curlyears: run "sudo apt install inkscape" to see what the issue with inkscape is
[20:36] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: no, just see the cmd's in the root terminal after a rescue reboot when I tab back, can't really do much as the last cmd is a reboot, which reboots the system after about a min
[20:36] <curlyears> k1l_:  my "3rd part repo?"  I am using apt-get as installed, without anyy chcnages made by me.  what "3rd party repo?"
[20:36] <k1l_> curlyears: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:37] <curlyears> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16158385/
[20:37] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: perhaps `systemctl list-units` would help?
[20:38] <recon_lap> let me get networking going on the usb boot, things should go quicker then
[20:38] <curlyears> k1l_: http://termbin.com/r725
[20:38] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: so i take it you've installed stuff from PPAs?
[20:39] <k1l_> curlyears: howly cow
[20:39] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: I'd just installed a game from GOG, think that was it
[20:39] <curlyears> k1l_:  ??
[20:40] <k1l_> curlyears: you manually added "http://download.alephobjects.com/ao/aodeb" as 3rd party repo for debian jessy and debian wheezy to your sources.list
[20:40] <mbullington> Hello! I tried upgrading from Ubuntu 16.04 beta to the final version with apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:40] <k1l_> curlyears: and that is shipping another inkscape version, that now breaks your ubuntu package system.
[20:41] <curlyears> k1l_:  no, *I* didnd't.  I did try to apt-get a package from alephobjects, though
[20:41] <mbullington> But I managed to really break things, dpkg won't install acpid, cups-daemon, or dbus.
[20:41] <mbullington> No error or anything, they just indefinitely hang for hours
[20:41] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: Ran the game once and it ran like a dog, so went to try the nvida drivers, then the boot issues. think the driver update not related to boot issues now.
[20:41] <k1l_> curlyears: i am pretty sure you added that. or you ran scripts with sudo that added that
[20:41] <curlyears> great.  I need the alephobjects stuff to properly control my 3D printer )-:
[20:41] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: hm, where'd it install to? maybe check there
[20:41] <mbullington> Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks
[20:42] <k1l_> curlyears: dont use their repos that are meant for debian. you dont run a debian, you are aware of that?
[20:42] <curlyears> probably ran a script that did it. I don't know how to add such things
[20:42] <curlyears> k1l_:  that was the dowload lulzbot offered for ubuntu 14
[20:44] <curlyears> yes, i am awsare i asm runnning ubuntu, but since they recommended that, and ubuntu is defrived from debian, I guessed (apparently incorrectly) that it would be OK )-:
[20:44] <LambdaComplex> something something frankendebian
[20:44] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: bit of a problem, it installed to my users home folder, which is encrypted.
[20:45] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: can you decrypt it?
[20:45] <k1l_> curlyears: ubuntu and debian share different package versions and form that different depencies. that doesnt work
[20:45] <curlyears> k1l_:  there is a command suggested in their dowload webpage for "trusty debian and ubuntu" which contained several oioed commands.  That insertion must have been among them
[20:46] <LambdaComplex> "trusty debian"
[20:46] <LambdaComplex> yeah, i don't think that's a thing
[20:46] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: I've got the decryption key around somewhere, but this is new territory for me. so this going to take a while. I think I'll spend the time though as I do want to see wtf happened.
[20:47] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: you said it's in your user's folder, but those commands were run by root....that sounds odd
[20:48] <curlyears> OK, They changed their webpage sometime in the past 2 days.  Now they have a seperate button just for ubuntu (previously, it ws listed as "if you have debian or ubuntu" trusy copy and paste this command"
[20:49] <curlyears> and it still blows up on install, demanding inkscape.
[20:49] <curlyears> so what is my solution?
[20:49] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: it is, but the cmds I saw I can think of no reason for them to show up other than a hack. till I can get a copy and show everyone I'm working on a lot of conjecture.
[20:50] <k1l_> curlyears: i said that already
[20:50] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: alright, do you have any "server" things running, like sshd or apache? things that could allow a remote attacker to gain entry
[20:50] <curlyears> k1l_  I must have missed it in the scroll, sorry
[20:50] <k1l_> curlyears: that crappy debian repos (you added like 10 times for 2 different debian versions) are ruining the package system
[20:50] <curlyears> how do I remove them?
[20:51] <LambdaComplex> with a text editor
[20:51] <curlyears> I ran the attempted install numerous times, not realizing it was corrupting the repo list
[20:51] <k1l_> curlyears: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"   go down to that lines, remove all that lines, press ctrl+o, then ctrl+x, then run "sudo apt update"
[20:51] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: yes, several. SQL server, apache. but system should have been fully firewalled.
[20:52] <curlyears> is it safe to manually edit that file?
[20:52] <LambdaComplex> yes
[20:52] <k1l_> curlyears: you need to do now.
[20:52] <k1l_> curlyears: you could ask "is it safe to manually sort the mess you already did"
[20:53] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: i honestly don't know much about how attacks using those services are performed, but i do know they can be attack vectors, so it's worth looking into
[20:53]  * LambdaComplex likes this k1l_ person
[20:53] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: do you have sshd running?
[20:56] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: never set it up as far as i know, but maybe something else might have enabled it. I was doing some remote server related stuff recently.
[20:56] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: `systemctl status sshd`
[20:56] <LambdaComplex> (also check sshd.socket)
[20:57] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: I cannot access the system reliably, when I boot to root console it reboot automaticly after 2 min or so.
[20:57] <LambdaComplex> recon_lap: what if you just boot it regularly?
[20:57] <k1l_> curlyears: when that is done, run "sudo apt update" to read in the new clean repos. then the install should work.
[20:57] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: black screen
[20:58]  * k1l_ is away now, so ask the channel if something still doesnt work
[21:04] <curlyears> OK...it isnow successfukky busy installing gnome and making it my default file manage.   THATNK you k1b_!!!!
[21:07] <reisio> curlyears: k, 1, TAB
[21:18] <viju> What do I if I have to get regular updates of oracle Java?
[21:18] <viju> do*
[21:19] <promet> trism, high, thanks for the replay, and apologies for the delay; ldd result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16159173/
[21:19] <promet> lol, high = "hi"
[21:19] <reisio> viju: what makes you think you have to
[21:19] <viju> reisio: what do you mean?
[21:20] <viju> There are regular updates to it. What if I want to have to those updates?
[21:20] <Bray90820> Upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 would anything samba related change?
[21:20] <viju> I don't want to use openjdk at the moment
[21:21] <dannymichel> I can't delete this trash-1000 folder on my external https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QZMleIuD/
[21:22] <reisio> dannymichel: why not
[21:22] <dannymichel> As the pastebin shows "permission denied
[21:22] <reisio> Bray90820: yes, but not likely any features
[21:22] <reisio> Bray90820: or how you use it
[21:22] <lerner> sound controls just disappeared
[21:22] <lerner> how do I get em back?
[21:23] <lerner> neither audio or video are being played...
[21:23] <Bray90820> reisio: So I would still have all my shares and stuff setup the same as before I updated?
[21:23] <reisio> Bray90820: yes, that's all personal configuration in /etc/ and ~/
[21:23] <reisio> should be untouched
[21:23] <reisio> if you're incredibly paranoid, just backup /etc/
[21:24] <Bray90820> Good because I have a really custom setup to work with time machine on OS X and don't want that to change
[21:24] <reisio> and in general, backup things you care about :)
[21:24] <reisio> Bray90820: you could also boot the 16.04 live image and feed it your configs to see if it works 100% the same
[21:24] <Bray90820> reisio: Yea I guess I could
[21:25] <reisio> should just work, though
[21:25] <trism> promet: looks fine, I'm looking through some threads, seems lots of people are having this issue, if you add the switch: -screen-fullscreen 0  does it start successfully in windowed mode?
[21:25] <reisio> configs shouldn't be touched; and samba hasn't changed much
[21:25] <RiPer> I have a dell inspiron 11 2-in-1, the touchpad is very picky. if i try to move the mouse too early or late, it wont respond and I have to reboot.
[21:26] <reisio> RiPer: hrmm?
[21:26] <RiPer> i have tried different drivers, but it seems to be buggy at best. any one have any ideas on this one?
[21:26] <RiPer> when i start (either from sleep or cold), the touchpad requires you to move it at exactly the right time or it doesnt work
[21:28] <Bray90820> reisio: Thanks
[21:28] <reisio> RiPer: what's xinput --list say about it?
[21:28] <^peter^> RiPer  How do you determine, and how did you find the "correct time" ?
[21:31] <dannymichel> I can't delete this trash-1000 folder on my external https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QZMleIuD/
[21:32] <trism> promet: most of the stuff I'm seeing is about (lack of) pulseaudio causing the crash, you didn't disable it did you?
[21:32] <reisio> dannymichel: why not
[21:32] <dannymichel> As the pastebin shows "permission denied
[21:32] <recon_lap> right, so I've managed to get it to stop rebooting and can use root cmd line
[21:32] <riqj> hello everyone, I'd like to use wget to download the contents of particular links on a page. how can I figure what extension to use? the links lead to pages that do not end with htm or html
[21:32] <RiPer> xinput is SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad, id = 13, slave pointer (2)
[21:32] <filifunk> Hi all!
[21:32] <RiPer> the correct time was complete trial and error
[21:33] <riqj> their endings seem like obfuscated mix of letters and numbers
[21:33] <filifunk> I have been using ubuntu for a while but still very unskilled.  Could someone help me with a problem I'm having?
[21:33] <reisio> dannymichel: unmount it, run file manager as root (gksu/pkexec), mount it, remove as root/with sudo
[21:33] <reisio> filifunk: someone could
[21:33] <riqj> filifunk, if you're kind of beginner, maybe I can.
[21:33] <dannymichel> thanks you
[21:33] <filifunk> ok thanks, and no worries if you can't figure it out.  Appreciate the help!
[21:34] <filifunk> so I have been messing around with mysql.  I created some databases.
[21:34] <filifunk> I then updated to the newest ubuntu 16.04
[21:34] <filifunk> now I can't get to my databases
[21:35] <filifunk> I used to log on without a password as root
[21:35] <riqj> oh, that's beyond me
[21:35] <filifunk> ok, no prob
[21:35] <filifunk> thanks anyways
[21:35] <filifunk> !
[21:35] <reisio> filifunk: why can't you
[21:35] <riqj> sure
[21:36] <filifunk> it tells me access denied
[21:36] <filifunk> I've looked at a few solutions online but can't get them to work for me, or I don't understand how to use the solutions correctly
[21:36] <filifunk> a lot of them say I should use "sudo service mysql start"
[21:37] <filifunk> to maybe just get it going, but then I get this problem
[21:37] <riqj> can anyone give me a hint with my wget question?
[21:37] <filifunk> "Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code.  See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details
[21:38] <filifunk> when i type in mysql -u root I get this error
[21:39] <filifunk> "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[21:39] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, did you try running the status command?
[21:39] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, no I have not
[21:39] <filifunk> how do I do that?
[21:39] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, just as it says there, systemctl status mysql.service
[21:40] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, it should show active (running) if the mysql daemon is running
[21:40] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, if the service/daemon isn't running then you won't be able to connect and there will be no unix socket
[21:41] <filifunk> ahh
[21:41] <filifunk> so I get this error
[21:42] <filifunk> mysql.service - MySQL Community Server
[21:42] <filifunk>    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mysql.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
[21:42] <filifunk>    Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2016-04-30 17:41:18 EDT; 77ms ago
[21:42] <filifunk>   Process: 10377 ExecStartPost=/usr/share/mysql/mysql-systemd-start post (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
[21:42] <filifunk>   Process: 10376 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[21:42] <filifunk>   Process: 10372 ExecStartPre=/usr/share/mysql/mysql-systemd-start pre (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
[21:43] <rpina> hi
[21:43] <riqj> I presume wget doesnt download https addresses?
[21:44] <filifunk> whoops I tried to paste and I think it got blocked
[21:44] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, you probably want to run the, journalctl -xe, command to see the end of the systemd journal and can try restarting the service with, systemctl restart mysql
[21:44] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, yeah can use paste.ubuntu.com for multi-line
[21:44] <reisio> riqj: sure it can
[21:44] <recon_lap> so, this is what i found in my root .bash_history http://pastebin.com/MGL6uSeA
[21:46] <filifunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16159522/plain/
[21:47] <filifunk> ok, that's what I got.  I will try the journal command
[21:47] <recon_lap> sure look like some hack script to me, anyone care to comment on it ? http://pastebin.com/MGL6uSeA
[21:47] <luban> hi everyone, i have a question. when I shut down from lubuntu and turn my laptop back on I get a black screen with fans whirring. i have to power down from the button and then turn it back on again in order to see grub. i'm on windows 7/lubuntu dual boot. any ideas? same thing doesn't happen when I shutdown from windows 7
[21:49] <reisio> luban: sounds like your suspend/hibernation settings aren't properly configured
[21:49] <reisio> luban: check your power manager prefs / try different settings
[21:49] <filifunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16159562/plain/
[21:50] <filifunk> ok, so could you walk me through what you look for in these pastes?
[21:50] <luban> thanks reisio i'll have a look
[21:51] <filifunk> from the last pace, it seems like this is interesting:  error getting signal strength: no such device.  but that also seems unrelated?
[21:51] <filifunk> *paste
[21:52] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, yeah last paste was mostly just other things in the system log didn't look related
[21:53] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, the status one just shows the mysql.service file has a pre-startup script that ran fine but starting the mysqld process itself failed for some reason, but we do want to get at that reason if possible
[21:53] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, try to run, systemctl restart mysql, then immediately do the journalctl -xe, command
[21:54] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, you can also scroll up in the journal but might be hard to find the mysql related parts
[21:54] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, so when I type in mysql -u root I get this error " Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'"
[21:54] <filifunk> ok will try that now
[21:54] <recon_lap> LambdaComplex: http://pastebin.com/MGL6uSeA contents of root/.
[21:54] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, yeah don't worry about that part yet, we need the service/daemon running then can see if the client connection is working
[21:55] <recon_lap> .bash_history after booting to root console
[21:55] <filifunk> journalctl -xe
[21:56] <filifunk> oh sorry, meant to type in terminal
[21:56] <riqj> I cant download the links..what can be wrong here: 'wget -A html -m -p -E -k -K -np https://path/to/page' ?
[21:57] <filifunk> Ok, here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16159678/plain/
[21:57] <reisio> riqj: ...what's wget say is wrong?
[21:58] <riqj> reisio, it downloads only a single empty page in an 'about' folder
[21:58] <reisio> riqj: is it a site you have to log into?
[21:58] <reisio> not a trick question
[21:59] <riqj> reisio, no, it is a publicly visible page
[21:59] <filifunk> The "Failed to start MySQL Community Server" is in red font fwiw
[21:59] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, never seen this problem in particular but looks like apparmour is stopping the mysql daemon from doing some things will google and see if I can give some things to try
[21:59] <reisio> riqj: try with -U ''
[21:59] <reisio> riqj: if that doesn't work, try with -U 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/41.0.2228.0 Safari/537.36'
[21:59] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, so I had just installed that today because I saw someone else had tried that and it helped
[22:00] <filifunk> I have no known use for it, so it can be removed if needed
[22:00] <riqj> reisio, adding -U alongside other parameters?
[22:00] <imrekt> Hi there, I'm using Ubuntu Server with XFCE 4.
[22:00] <imrekt> When using the DE over VNC, I get this:
[22:00] <imrekt> http://i.imgur.com/x4apvT2.png
[22:01] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, hmm I think apparmour is included by default which package did you install?
[22:01] <reisio> riqj: yes
[22:02] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, I don't know I remember I just entered a simple "sudo apt-get apparmor" type entry
[22:02] <stan44> i am having an issue with getting a ssh pubkey to work. i've followed the instructions on ubuntu's site as well as https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys--2  and the server will give me permission denied (publickey)
[22:02] <stan44> i am running ubuntu version 16.04 lts
[22:03] <stan44> the server is also running 16.04
[22:04] <riqj> reisio, what was the last command with browser names for?
[22:04] <piuser8> Hi
[22:05] <piuser8> Im with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS :D
[22:05] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, okay it should just say nothing was installed if the package was already there but looks like you can modify the apparmor conditions/permissions relatively easily http://askubuntu.com/questions/172030/how-to-allow-bind-in-app-armor
[22:05] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, the particulars of the errors are closer to what's here http://tanghus.net/2012/03/yet-another-mysql-vs-apparmor-barf/ but ultimately seems like mysqld is trying to access some things on the system that apparmor isn't allowing
[22:06] <dax> stan44: check that: 1) the server has a directory ~/.ssh 2) that directory has rwx permissions for your user and no permissions for group/other. 3) the directory contains authorized_keys 4) that file has rw permissions for your user and no permissions for group/other 5) that file contains a line starting with a bit that contains rsa or ecdsa or something, then a bunch of nonsense ending in =, then an
[22:06] <dax> identifier for the key (e.g. your local computer name)
[22:06] <reisio> riqj: same as the previous
[22:06] <dax> stan44: half the time, it's permissions, so (2) or (4), but check it all
[22:06] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, details on AppArmor itself here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/apparmor.html don't think you really want to turn that off though just tweak it to allow mysqld to read what it needs to
[22:07] <riqj> reisio, asking because the terminal switched to some kind of editor or program, the line starting with >
[22:07] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, so I was looking at that link and was looking for the apparmor in the etc folder, I have two folders for apparmor, is that unusual?  "apparmor" and "apparmor.d"
[22:08] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, yeah not too unusual I'm not very familiar with the details of apparmor itself but lots of services have a .d version of the folder where they break up the config and the main config file typically loads all the .d files
[22:09] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, I have the same here
[22:09] <ouroumov> Hey, small problem here: I've two machines where "apt-get source <package>" doesn't work anymore, is that a new thing?
[22:09] <ouroumov> (On 16.04)
[22:10] <EriC^^> ouroumov: deb-src enabled in the sources.list?
[22:10] <Yehai> bazhang_ is faggot
[22:10] <dax> ouroumov: make sure there are deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list corresponding to the repositories you want source packages from. if they're missing, you can copypaste the existing lines and change the deb at the start to deb-src
[22:10] <dax> ouroumov: then sudo apt-get update, then try source again
[22:11] <ouroumov> EriC^^, dax: thanks, I had only the restricted deb-src uncommented for some reason.
[22:11] <effectnet> well i think i found out that this wallpaper app, wally, is causing my 'maximum number of clients reached' xorg problem
[22:11] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, ok.  so here is where I really let my noobie-ness shine.  I went to that apparmor guide and I take it I should use the part about re-enabling a disabled profile?  presumably the profile is not allowing mysql to do its thing?
[22:12] <ouroumov> Ehr, the partner *
[22:13] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, it's possible but really blind leading the blind on that one, it just appears from the journal log that apparmor is what's blocking mysql from accessing certain resources and it's failing to start, but beyond that your guess is as good as mine
[22:13] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, I have mysql running on 16.04 and upgraded from 14.04 but I didn't run into this particular issue
[22:13] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, I can help to confirm or deny things but apparmor is something I haven't dug into
[22:14] <filifunk> Ok, well thanks for getting me this far!
[22:16] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, yup np let me know if there's anything you want me to check or if you manage to get the service itself up and running
[22:16] <fabio_> Can someone help me with the software sources to install firefox 31 on ubuntu 16.04? On xenial sources I can find only 45 and 46. Do I need to download old sources and compile myself or there is a workaround?
[22:16] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, thanks will try and throw the kitchen sink at this thing haha.  Will keep you updated.
[22:19] <stan44> dax, i've used chmod the file contains the keys and file contains proper lines. the server has the directory and the file is in the folder as well with the pubkey still unable too
[22:25] <Geo_> hey all has anyone had luck installing Pronterface on ubuntu 16?
[22:25] <stan44> dax, i got it working! i had to use ssh -i ~/.ssh/)rsa-id user@address
[22:28] <stan44> dax, is there away to make it where i do not have to type ssh -i ~/.ssh/keyfile user@address ?
[22:29] <dax> stan44: rename the keyfile to id_rsa and it'll get picked up automatically, or investigate the IdentityFile option to ~/.ssh/config (see man ssh_config)
[22:30] <Petrushka> i'm trying to run a script every day at 17:49 that toggles the wifi
[22:30] <Petrushka> i wrote the script and made an entry in crontab
[22:30] <Petrushka> that look like this:
[22:31] <Petrushka> https://paste.ubuntu.com/16160182/
[22:31] <Petrushka> but it doesn't work
[22:31] <Petrushka> anybody know what i'm doing wrong?
[22:32] <Petrushka> if i run the script from the command line it works
[22:32] <stan44> dax, thank you so much you was a big help. added the needed line to my config now i can just login like i should be able too. you just made my life and the others who help manage our community easier. thank you.
[22:32] <dax> stan44: :)
[22:33] <Hydr0p0nX> can anyone tell me how to get udf dvd's to automount ? iso format dvd's and udf bluray's automount as expected ? udf dvds report mounting in dmesg but never actually mount until I manually mount it
[22:34] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, so I from working on this some more, I think my problem is that in var/lib/ there are mysql files there that has all my data but I don't have permission for them.  I am tempted to type in the terminal what is here in this solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/364426/this-location-could-not-be-displayed-you-do-not-the-permissions-necessary-to-vie
[22:34] <stan44> well i gotta go. gotta go to other machines and config them to access the server properly and remove password auth. already had multiple attempts from china to get ssh access
[22:34] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, would what I type go like this: "chmod /var/lib/myssql read by owner"
[22:35] <Inocuous> I'm going to be running a php bot locally and creating a database using mysql, is this the right package to install: mysql-client
[22:36] <Petrushka> anybody know the answer to my wifi toggle question?
[22:36] <dax> Inocuous: if you're running the database locally too, you need mysql-server
[22:36] <Petrushka> i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong
[22:37] <dax> Inocuous: mysql-client is for accessing existing database servers
[22:37] <recon_lap> Inocuous: think you'll need the sql server to be local, mysql-server
[22:37] <dax> (via the command-line)
[22:38] <turing> hi guys
[22:38] <recon_lap> gtg, g'night
[22:38] <lucas-arg> hey guys, one litle question, why ubuntu generates so many languages with locale.gen?? i only have es_AR in locale.gen
[22:38] <Inocuous> Ok. thanks.
[22:39] <turing> i made a DIY HTML page server.. but it can literally host anything that an apache web server can host
[22:39] <turing> http://128.199.151.66/
[22:40] <jeremy31> Petrushka: have you tried rfkill block wifi && sleep 20 && rfkill unblock wifi
[22:40] <Petrushka> jeremy31: the problem doesn't seem to be with the command i'm using to start/stop wifi, it seems to be with getting it to execute from crontab
[22:41] <Hydr0p0nX> Petrushka: try redirecting the output to a log file
[22:41] <Inocuous> It looks like it's loading all the dependencies automatically. thanks dax
[22:42] <Petrushka> Hydr0p0nX: how do i do that?
[22:43] <Hydr0p0nX> Petrushka: add something like " >>/var/log/cronrun" after the script name
[22:43] <Hydr0p0nX> w/o quotes
[22:43] <vivek__> hello all
[22:43] <Petrushka> ok, one second
[22:43] <vivek__> i am new to xubuntu
[22:44] <filifunk> Hi everyone, how do I change the permissions so i can view a folder?  I have a folder called /var/lib/mysql that I can't access for some reason.  What should I type in?  "chmod /var/lib/mysql read by owner does not work
[22:46] <vivek__> chmod a+rwx /var/lib/mysql
[22:46] <vivek__> i hop ei am rgt
[22:46] <theShirbiny> that's not a good idea
[22:46] <Hydr0p0nX> no, it's not
[22:46] <vivek__> oh sorry !
[22:46] <filifunk> hmmm
[22:47] <Petrushka> i went and looked in /var/run/cronrun and there's no file there
[22:47] <vivek__> i thought a means all and the + means to add the permission ?
[22:49] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: is the problem that you don't have access or that mysql is failing to start due to lack of permissions ?
[22:49] <theShirbiny> filifunk, it would be easier if you tell us why do you want to change the permissions on the first place
[22:49] <B0g4r7_> To list the contents of a directory, +x is required.
[22:50] <filifunk> It is failing to start I believe because I am lacking permissions.  So i figured if I give myself permission I could try and start it again.
[22:50] <theShirbiny> what command are you using and what's the error?
[22:50] <B0g4r7_> Often daemons like mysql are run as root.  Maybe you be using sudo.
[22:51] <B0g4r7_> Or run as their own user.
[22:51] <theShirbiny> B0bsF1sh, you can list the directory with -x, you need +x to cd into the directory
[22:52] <filifunk> well I was talking with wafflej0ck and we determined that apparmor is denying me mysql for some reason
[22:52] <B0g4r7_> theShirbiny, for reals?
[22:52] <theShirbiny> yes, try it yourself :)
[22:52] <filifunk> and through some tinkering around with solutions that I see online, I think not having permission to that folder may be my issue
[22:53] <sony_> hi
[22:53] <B0bsF1sh> Who, waa? Oh woke me up
[22:53] <B0g4r7_> theShirbiny, interesting.  I can't view the attributes of any of the contained files, but I can see a list of filenames.
[22:53] <B0bsF1sh> But you were talking to B0g4r7_ :)
[22:54] <theShirbiny> yes
[22:54] <theShirbiny> oh, oops
[22:54] <theShirbiny> sorry for that
[22:54] <filifunk> B0g4r7 when I type mysql -u root I get this error:  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[22:54] <theShirbiny> filifunk, is the mysql daemon running?
[22:55] <theShirbiny> service mysql status
[22:56] <filifunk> when I type in service mysql status I get this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160430/plain/
[22:56] <theShirbiny> I can't view that
[22:56] <B0g4r7_> filifunk, I can't view your paste.  The site asks me to login.
[22:57] <theShirbiny> do you get start/running? or stop/waiting?
[22:58] <filifunk> ok, well I get mysql.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
[22:58] <B0g4r7_> I'd say the daemon is not running.
[22:58] <filifunk> and when I check the journal I get a bunch of apparmor=denied messages
[22:58] <tambu> updated to 16.04 but now my ubuntu desktop is blank just the background.. it "appears" the unity plugin is disabled if I enable through compwiz it comes to life but it's not sticking?
[22:59] <filifunk> I mean journalctl -xe
[23:00] <B0g4r7_> What is apparmor for?
[23:01] <theShirbiny> MAC system, just like SELinux, but I haven't used it before.
[23:01] <reisio> B0g4r7_: generic security improvements
[23:01] <reisio> similar to selinux, I would say, not just like
[23:01] <reisio> selinux really needs to be manually configured, IMO
[23:01] <B0g4r7_> Sounds distasteful.
[23:01] <B0g4r7_> I'd tend to uninstall it if I encountered it.
[23:02] <reisio> apparmor?
[23:02] <B0g4r7_> and selinux.
[23:02] <reisio> you don't really need either for a desktop
[23:02] <reisio> for a server, there's so much more you'd be configuring, it'd be a drop in the bucket
[23:02] <filifunk> I'm not sure, I think it comes with ubuntu
[23:03] <theShirbiny> B0g4r7_, so you disable everything in your system you don't know or can't use?
[23:03] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: try running sudo aa-complain /usr/sbin/mysqld then starting the service
[23:04] <filifunk> I looked at the mysql file in the apparmor folder and it has a destination that I don't have access to: /var/lib/mysql...so I figured if I could get that permission I might be able to move forward
[23:05] <B0g4r7_> For a server that needs "security hardening", you're not likely to be running anything very close to vanilla ubuntu.
[23:05] <filifunk> I tried that I get sudo: aa-complain: command not found
[23:06] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: what does sudo apparmor_status return?
[23:06] <theShirbiny> filifunk,  apt-get install apparmor-utils
[23:06] <theShirbiny> then try what Hydr0p0nX said
[23:06] <filifunk> I get a bunch of profiles
[23:06] <filifunk> one of them being usr/sbin/mysqld
[23:08] <tonio> Hello
[23:08] <filifunk> theShirbiny, ok, I installed that
[23:08] <drama> hi
[23:08] <filifunk> I just ran aa-complain...
[23:08] <B0g4r7_> I think this "bolt-on security" approach like ASLR and whatnot is only OK if it can be done transparently.  The minute it starts to get in the way, it's crap.
[23:08] <filifunk> and it worked
[23:09] <tonio> anyone got ubuntu with skylake cpu?
[23:09] <B0g4r7_> tonio, I wish.
[23:09] <filifunk> am now doing service mysql start
[23:09] <theShirbiny> B0g4r7_, SELinux gives you exactly what to run when you encounter any issues
[23:09] <theShirbiny> tonio, me
[23:10] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, just got back and saw your questions see you got some direction here too though
[23:10] <tonio> theShirbiny, u got any flickering problem with display?
[23:10] <B0g4r7_> theShirbiny, my issue was random kernel panics when under heavy IO load.  Removing selinux entirely (including from the kernel) solved the issue.
[23:10] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, believe with 16.04 you typically want to use systemctl restart mysql, (or start) instead of using the service command
[23:10] <dax> wafflej0ck: they do the same thing underneath, shouldn't matter
[23:11] <theShirbiny> nope, using 4.2.0-35-generic
[23:11] <wafflej0ck> dax, ah wasn't sure if the older service command would use the new .service files from systemd
[23:11] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, hi!
[23:11] <tonio> i use 4.4.0.21-generic
[23:11] <tonio> and i have some flickering
[23:11] <theShirbiny> B0g4r7_, haven't heard of this one before
[23:11] <filifunk> ok, I tried both and got "Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code...."
[23:12] <filifunk> I will enter journalctl -xe and see what I get
[23:12] <theShirbiny> systemctl status -l mysql
[23:12] <B0g4r7_> It's old.  I encountered it around 2004.
[23:13] <tonio> theShirbiny, did you install any particular driver after Ubuntu install for you CPU?
[23:13] <theShirbiny> 12 years man
[23:13] <filifunk> it certainly looks different.  instead of apparmor=denied that I used to get, I now get apparmor=allowed
[23:13] <filifunk> but obv still not working
[23:13] <theShirbiny> nope, intel drivers are included in the kernel i believe.
[23:14] <filifunk> theShirbiny, I typed that in and still get: mysql.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
[23:15] <tonio> theShirbiny, flickering isn't always there, just when i scroll. I should mention that i installed with nomodese option. But not booting with it, since i install NVIDIA drivers ( laptop has 2 gpu )
[23:15] <B0g4r7_> I feel like ubuntu is becoming what drove me away from redhat.
[23:15] <wafflej0ck> !pastebinit | filifunk
[23:16] <reisio> B0g4r7_: nah, it was always like that :p
[23:16] <B0g4r7_> heh
[23:16] <theShirbiny> tonio, with nomodeset you're not using any hardware driver, you're using software rendering
[23:18] <theShirbiny> filifunk, I had some issues with docker and selinux 3 months ago, but I can remember how I resolved it :(
[23:18] <tonio> theShirbiny, ok, nice to know that. As i mentioned i had to use nomodeset in order to install the OS. But when i managed to install the OS and NVIDIA driver, i don't have to boot with nomodeset. But i get that flickering some times.
[23:18] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, you can, sudo apt install pastebinit, then run, systemctl status -l mysql | pastebinit, that will give you a url you can paste here to share what you're seeing more easily
[23:19] <theShirbiny> oh, I'm not using the nvidia driver, i'm using the intel one
[23:19] <TheMarius> this is going over all expectations.. ubuntu MATE 16.04 will be my main desktop next 5 years :D
[23:19] <theShirbiny> file a bug maybe?
[23:20] <tonio> theShirbiny, ill search a bit more in the web, trying to find something that would make it go away
[23:20] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, well that's easier!  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160661/
[23:21] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, you can see how things have changed in my journalctl output http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160669/
[23:22] <filifunk> I still think if I knew how to change the permissions on var/lib/mysql that may work
[23:23] <theShirbiny> if it's an apparmor problem, changing the unix permissions won't help you
[23:24] <eelstrebor> i'm getting a lot of weak key messages for google chrome under ubuntu 16.04 - they are sha1 hashes - anyone else experiencing this issue?
[23:24] <reisio> use chromium
[23:26] <filifunk> ok, well here is another way of looking at the problem, when I enter mysql -u root I get this error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[23:27] <tambu> Anyone know why my ubuntu desktop is blank after upgrade to 16.04? I think the unity plugin isn't starting correctly if I enable by ccsm it appears to start up
[23:27] <filifunk> so through going through some solutions online I went to my.cnf and am supposed to see some socket there.  There was none.
[23:27] <theShirbiny> filifunk, mysql is not running, that's the problem. you can't connect to it if it's not running
[23:27] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: you can't connect to a port if it's not listeing, that's more a symptom than problem
[23:28] <filifunk> ok, makes sense
[23:29] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, yeah once the service is running it can either use a unix socket "file" or a TCP connection
[23:29] <theShirbiny> filifunk, this might seem stupid an random but can you reboot your system and try starting the service again?
[23:29] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, I don't see anything in the log now that's standing out though
[23:29] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, can try checking in /var/log/mysql to see if there's anything extra in there
[23:30] <filifunk> theShirbiny, not stupid or random...nothing is at this point haha.  But I have tried that many times and haven't seen any success
[23:31] <kevin123> are you sure mysql is running?
[23:31] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, are you concerned with preserving the data you've worked on so far?
[23:31] <wafflej0ck> kevin123, no that's the problem
[23:31] <wafflej0ck> kevin123, it's not running
[23:31] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, yes, unfortunately
[23:31] <promet> trism, if you replied it scrolled off, I've increased my scrolled lines if you did reply and could repeat ;), apologies; cooking =D
[23:31] <theShirbiny> no, i mean now
[23:31] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, okay you may want to make a copy of the data somewhere but you can typically safely reinstall packages without it touching the config or data
[23:32] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, but doesn't hurt to have a copy
[23:32] <kevin123> filifunk> did you change the mysql.cnf file ? when you change the innodb buffer pool size, mysql won't start until you remove the 2 files
[23:32] <filifunk> ok, but I think I don't have permission to copy that data
[23:33] <filifunk> kevin123, I did change them by copying what a solution online said needs to be there, a socket and some other line
[23:33] <filifunk> i will check
[23:33] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, you can use sudo to do some process as root so long as you have your password and your account has sudoers permission
[23:33] <kevin123> filifunk> you should turn on the mysql error log in my.cnf and check what it says
[23:34] <filifunk> I just realized that I don't have access to my root folder on nautilus
[23:37] <filifunk> really noobness here - but when I want to make a copy, I opened up nautilus and tried to copy the mysql files and paste it onto my other hard drive and it won't let me because I don't have permissions to read it.  How do I do this as sudo?
[23:38] <Hydr0p0nX> sudo cp /path/to/src /path/to/destination
[23:38] <Hydr0p0nX> cp -R to copy recursively
[23:38] <filifunk> ah ok
[23:38] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, you typically just want to do it at the command line or at least be very careful if you're running nautilus as root/admin since you can destroy your system or accidentally save files as root and then your regular user account (or processes launched by it) can't read them
[23:39] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, what Hydr0p0nX wrote is typical way to go
[23:40] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, what kevin123 suggested to modify my.cnf to make sure the logs are on and see where they're at is a good call too, best to see what the actual error is before trying anything else
[23:41] <theShirbiny> the process is getting killed by apparmor, it's an apparmor configuration issue, not mysql
[23:44] <wafflej0ck> theShirbiny, you still see something about apparmor blocking it in the new logs? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160669/
[23:45] <filifunk> whew, sorry took a while, had to do that copying for the first time via terminal.  Did it! haha
[23:45] <filifunk> wafflej0ck and kevin123 ok, I will try to put some sort of log in there
[23:46] <theShirbiny> wafflej0ck, ah, nope, maybe check mysql error_log
[23:47] <filifunk> my mysql error log has this stuff http://paste.ubuntu.com/16160918/plain/
[23:48] <theShirbiny> again, we can't see the logs
[23:48] <filifunk> wait is what is in that error.log the same thing as putting in an error log in my.cnf?
[23:48] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, ah okay see in there it says run mysql_upgrade it needs some new tables
[23:48] <theShirbiny> I'm getting Invalid OpenID transaction :(
[23:48] <wafflej0ck> theShirbiny, ah I signed in there and it let me in
[23:48] <wafflej0ck> dunno :shrugs:
[23:49] <filifunk> oh so I should upgrade mysql?
[23:49] <Hydr0p0nX> theShirbiny: just drop the /plain/ off the end
[23:49] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: just run mysql_upgrade
[23:50] <filifunk> mysql_upgrade: Got error: 2013: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 104 while connecting to the MySQL server Upgrade process encountered error and will not continue.
[23:50] <filifunk> le sigh
[23:50] <theShirbiny> huh, ubuntu one is still around?
[23:50] <starcrasher> Hi! I'm looking for an easy way encrypt a large number of files on an NTFS filesystem(all of my document storage is on NTFS for dual boot compatibility) and be able to decrypt them inside an ubuntu virtualbox VM which reads them from a VB shared folder.  The tricky part is that I want to be able to sync them with rsync on the host machine without decrypting them, so a LUKS file container is not a viable option.  I'm looking into ecryptfs, but my first at
[23:53] <starcrasher> It's important to note that the host machine will never decrypt the files, but two different virtual machines on separate hosts must be able to open them in the same manner with the same password.
[23:53] <\9> starcrasher: your first message was too long and was cut short
[23:53] <donofrio> so if sound does work when I type "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" how do I get it to go though pianobar
[23:53] <\9> "I'm looking into ecryptfs, but my first at"
[23:54] <starcrasher> I'm looking into ecryptfs, but my first attempt by moving the encrypted home directory into the shared folder and adding it to fstab failed(probably because some of the encrypted filenames were too long for NTFS). Is there any way around this? Will I encounter other problems if I do work around that? Is there a better way to accomplish my task?
[23:54] <starcrasher> \9 ty
[23:54] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk - see if you can run /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=mysql &
[23:54] <Hydr0p0nX> then run mysql_upgrade
[23:54] <\9> np
[23:55] <filifunk> I did that and got this still: mysql_upgrade: Got error: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) while connecting to the MySQL server Upgrade process encountered error and will not continue.[1]+  Exit 1                  /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=mysql
[23:56] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: did you include sudo when running mysqld ?
[23:57] <Hydr0p0nX> you may need to include it for the mysql_upgrade script too, not sure
[23:58] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nx no, but I just tried those two things again with sudo and same errors
[23:58] <Hydr0p0nX> what's the mysql err log show ?
[23:58] <filifunk> I tried to start mysql with sudo too
[23:59] <filifunk> ok, will paste it
[23:59] <filifunk> it says run mysql_upgrade