[00:58] <jarh> whats the channel spanish?
[00:58] <Unit193> !es
[01:04] <Strav> Anyone having issues with amarok mp3 playback on 16.04?
[01:08] <Strav> Also: kmail keeps re-syncing my davmail imap folder and fails to display signature images inline (anyone else experiencing this as well?)
[02:32] <JMichaelX> did a fresh installation of 16.04. seems to be quite hoggish when it comes to RAM
[02:33] <JMichaelX> i have 4GB DDR2 RAM, have Chrome open with 6 tabs, and amarok playing music... and it has been swapping a bit
[07:51] <Iloiny> how good an idea would it be to uninstall kde-pim package and compile from source?
[07:55] <valorie> are you working on the package?
[07:55] <valorie> or testing?
[07:56] <valorie> in those cases, or translation/internationalization, or documentation, it can be useful
[07:57] <Iloiny> neither atm, but inclined to since what I currently have crashes
[07:58] <xieyi> I just upgraded to kubuntu 16.04. the window title bar and border is alway missing after use it for a while
[07:58] <xieyi> have you met similar problem?
[07:59] <Iloiny> no that's not it for me
[07:59] <valorie> xieyi: no, I've not seen that
[07:59] <valorie> sounds like a kwin problem
[07:59] <xieyi> yeah it is a kwin problem
[08:00] <xieyi> in the last version the kwin could restart after the problem
[08:00] <valorie> Iloiny: probably better to report the crashes to the pim team and work with them on getting them fixed
[08:00] <xieyi> but in this version no restart of kwin
[08:01] <valorie> xieyi: you might ask in #plasma when the devels come online
[08:01] <valorie> keep in mind it's the weekend
[08:01] <xieyi> OK
[08:01] <xieyi> thx
[08:02] <valorie> Iloiny: the pim devels don't seem to use IRC much, so it might be better to file a bug or ask on their list
[08:02]  * valorie is going offline now too..... time to sleep
[08:02] <Iloiny> well I 've already filed a bug and basically the response is that it is likely fixed on repository
[08:02] <valorie> ah, ok
[08:03] <valorie> what we have in the archive now is 4:15.12.3
[08:04] <valorie> we'll be packaging applications when the newest Plasma is done
[08:05] <Iloiny> fair enough
[08:05] <Iloiny> when I ask if it's a good idea, I 'm primarily concerned if it would break everything
[09:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:18] <Vespa_Ferox> Salve! kann mir bitte jmd mit dem Anmeldebilschrimunter Kub 16.04 helfen?
[09:19] <lordievader> !de | Vespa_Ferox
[09:29] <Vespa_Ferox> anybody can help me with the login screnn in kub 16.04 ?
[09:34] <akik> Vespa_Ferox: what's the problem?
[09:38] <Vespa_Ferox> I'm joined inta a univention domain, therfore i can login with the domain members. the login screen shows all members in a scroll menue. is there a way to set up the login screnn to login with a username & password field? (sry my broken english^ )
[09:50] <akik> Vespa_Ferox: sorry don't really know the answer to that but i found the following https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/406
[09:50] <akik> Vespa_Ferox: it says that changing the greeter in kde settings could make it change to what you need
[09:52] <luc4> Hello! Is do-release-upgrade still the way to update to 16.04?
[09:52] <akik> Vespa_Ferox: lower on the page marcelrc comments that on kubuntu there are themes that accomplish this
[09:52] <akik> Vespa_Ferox: "sddm-theme-circles", "sddm-theme-elarun" or "sddm-theme-maldives"
[09:57] <Vespa_Ferox> k, thx,, bookmarked it, will try it asap
[10:07] <luc4> Am I supposed to have muon installed in 15.10? I don’t see it. Can I run sudo do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 16.04?
[10:09] <akik> luc4: i had to install muon in 16.04. it wasn't installed by default
[10:09] <lordievader> luc4: Yes, that is the cli way.
[10:09] <luc4> lordievader: I remember it was discouraged in the past. Is it ok to upgrade via command line?
[10:10] <lordievader> It was discouraged? Why?
[10:10] <luc4> lordievader: never known why
[10:11] <lordievader> Hmm, never heard that. And it works fine for me :)
[10:11] <luc4> lordievader: great, thanks!
[10:17] <soee_> gui anyway uses cli in the background :)
[10:37] <luc4> soee_: yes, that is what has always confused me. It is clear the command that executes….
[11:21] <mikkle> Does anyone know whether the 16.04 installer still crashes on some secure boot error?
[11:27] <akik> mikkle: if you're installing from the 16.04 lts image then yes
[11:27] <akik> i don't think they've updated those?
[11:28] <akik> mikkle: there's instruction in launchpad that show how that can be fixed. i'll get the url
[11:29] <akik> mikkle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1529450
[11:43] <Elliot77> ciao
[11:49] <mikkle> akik: cheers
[11:51] <akik> mikkle: one thing i'm not sure of is that the installer talks about using secure boot and third party drivers
[11:51] <akik> i have secure boot enabled and nvidia driver in xorg
[11:52] <akik> so i don't understand why the installer says that i have to disable secure boot
[11:52] <mikkle> hmmm, i guess i could try installing it on a test partition and see how far the installer gets
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:41] <Guest49997> daar
[12:44] <baby> ciao a tutti
[12:48] <baby> ciao a tutti
[12:48] <baby> !list
[13:32] <user|81831> Hi
[13:33] <user|81831> I have just installed kubuntu
[13:33] <user|81831> And then install google chrome
[13:33] <user|81831> But after it, google icon did not shown in application menu
[13:34] <user|81831> How to solve it.???
[13:37] <user|1239> test
[13:41] <newbie89> I have upgraded to Xubuntu 16.04 from Xubuntu 15.10. but have a problem with Qt applications
[13:41] <newbie89> that using Qt5, Qt4 library. All UI font size suddenly set to very small. Would it be possible to get some help?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> newbie89,  you can get Xubuntu support in the #xubuntu chat
[15:49] <s98259> Hello
[15:52] <s98259> I have a Realtek ALC887-VD soundcard which is semi-working with HDMI to the point that only certain songs on youtube can be played, I can't play any files on my computer and I haven't found anything playable on Soundcloud either. Via analog, everything works fine. I haven't found any errors.
[15:52] <s98259> Please help me, I have been nattling this problem for 2 days now...
[15:53] <BluesKaj> s98259, is this a recent Kubuntu installation ?
[15:53] <s98259> Yes.
[15:54] <s98259> My audio wouldn't work at all on Debian since forever, never found a fix so I tired out Kubuntu.
[15:54] <BluesKaj> ok s98259 have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[15:54] <s98259> I will do that now but what does that package contain exactly?
[15:54] <s98259> Sorry, I am on a keyboard layout which I am not used to
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:56] <s98259> Btw, is Kubuntu part of Canonical or a third party?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> s98259, also install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[15:57] <s98259> 'Failure to download extra data files'
[15:58] <s98259> Aaaah that download error was a fluke?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> the name Kubuntu is register by canonical , but Kubuntu itself is now being supported and developed by Blue Systems
[15:59] <BluesKaj> registered
[15:59] <s98259> Blue Ltljems_
[15:59] <s98259> Blue Systems?
[16:00] <s98259> No wonder why it is soo blue!
[16:01] <s98259> I have installed all packages and I am getting the same issues
[16:04] <BluesKaj> s98259, you may need to reboot and check alsamixer to make sure automuting enabled
[16:05] <BluesKaj> if automute is enabled use the down arrow key to disable
[16:09] <s98259> Still no luck
[16:12] <BluesKaj> no luck with what sources?
[16:12] <s98259> My computer has exactly the same symptoms and auto mute is enabled
[16:17] <s98259> Guys? I have never had good luck with HDMI, haven't used Windows since 2007 but the amount of HDMI problems I have with Linux distros has got me considering to switch to Windows
[16:17] <s98259> because I want access to good quality sound and clearly Linux distros are incapable of providing tat
[16:18] <s98259> Instead I get landed with Analog signals which don't sound as good to my ears
[16:19] <Javabean> i am using hdmi as my sound source, hdmi sound in linux is possible
[16:20] <s98259> Javabean: But it is hard to obtain...
[16:21] <s98259> I can't help myself anymore nor can Google.
[16:21] <Javabean> no, it wasn't for me
[16:21] <s98259> I have done nothing but wasted my time googling.
[16:21] <s98259> only to find other peoples issues and not my own
[16:21] <akik> i'm no hifi guy but hdmi is working fine with kubuntu
[16:22] <akik> it has that delay when starting a new stream that it's silent for 1-2 seconds
[16:22] <s98259> It winds me up. A good percentage of people are Linux users and not one of them has my issue here? Come on!
[16:22] <Javabean> all i did when i installed was open kmix -> select master channel -> select the option for hdmi, enjoy the sound
[16:23] <s98259> I have sound, sound works fine. The issue is I can not play certain songs on youtube, I can not play anything at all on my local system
[16:23] <akik> i've connected hdmi from my nvidia card to onkyo amp
[16:23] <akik> didn't need to do anything special, just install vlc and play
[16:24] <s98259> It doesn't work tho
[16:25] <Javabean> check what your master channel is... my setup is hdmi to monitor, monitor to amp/sound via 3.5mm jack
[16:25] <akik> paste the links that don't play for you. i can test them
[16:25] <s98259> akik: It is like... half of youtube...
[16:26] <s98259> This one for example
[16:26] <s98259> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcJ7zGrClJk
[16:26] <s98259> It plays elsewhere but not on this system. It actually plays, no sound
[16:26] <s98259> But then this one plays and has sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ
[16:27] <s98259> Sorry about my English
[16:27] <s98259> All the adverts play fine
[16:29] <akik> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcJ7zGrClJk plays fine
[16:29] <akik> do you have pavucontrol installed? it has sometimes helped me
[16:29] <s98259> Not over my HDMI port
[16:29] <s98259> I will install it
[16:31] <s98259> Why does pavucontrol say ubuntu sound effects are muted when they are not?!
[16:31] <s98259> ubuntu sound effects work fine...
[16:32] <s98259> *kubuntu
[16:32] <s98259> Fixed!
[16:33] <akik> cool
[16:33] <s98259> pavu fixed it! Thankl sooo much akik!
[16:33] <s98259> You don't understand how much I have been trying to fix this. thank you thank you thank you!!!
[16:33] <akik> in my laptop i noticed that if hdmi wasn't connected during install it was not visible in audio settings
[16:34] <akik> and it was weird to setup after connecting
[16:34] <s98259> Oh it was always visible here, I had to check DTS, AC3, etc in pavu
[16:35] <s98259> Wow orgasmic sound! Thank you
[16:37] <ShalokShalom> hi there
[16:37] <ShalokShalom> why bet Kubuntu still on 4, partly?
[16:37] <BluesKaj>  s98259 you still may need thefresh p[layer I mentioned earlier for flash content audio on youtube
[16:37] <s98259> BluesKaj: Flash works perfectly now
[16:38] <s98259> It was thos codecs in pavu that needed to be checked
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ok , good
[16:39] <s98259> Thanks :)
[16:39] <BluesKaj> for those who use pulseaudio pavucontrol is a must
[16:42] <s98259> More problems
[16:42] <s98259> how confusing
[16:42] <s98259> I can play the MP3's for jean michel jarre but not Benny Benassi
[16:43] <s98259> hmm, can't play for jean now either
[16:44] <akik> check the pavucontrol again if the output changed
[16:45] <s98259> I did and it hasn't
[16:46] <s98259> Closing firefox fixed it
[16:46] <s98259> sigh....
[16:46] <s98259> or maybe not... this is confusing the hell outta me....
[16:48] <s98259> So one set of MP3's work but not the other yet they all work on my other systems...
[16:48] <akik> do you play on vlc?
[16:49] <s98259> Yes
[16:49] <akik> but don't play on some other app?
[16:50] <s98259> The ones that don't work also don't work in other apps, same for the ones that do work
[16:50] <s98259> yet if I boot into another OS on my system, they all work
[16:50] <BluesKaj> vlc has audio settings that can get complicated when used with pulseaudio
[16:51] <s98259> There are hardly any audio settings in VLC....
[16:52] <akik> tools/preferences/show settings = all. you'll be surprised
[16:53] <s98259> WTH
[16:53] <BluesKaj> s98259, yes look in tools > prefernces>audio
[16:53] <BluesKaj> on vlc
[16:56] <s98259> I hate this GUI business, I feel awkward using it yet I don't know hoow to properly debus audio because I have only had to do it with HDMI and I couldn't get audio working on my primary OS partition (Debian)
[16:57] <BluesKaj> fs9 in your case the pulseaudio output is probly the one to choose and if you want hdmi then you need to use the spdif out for digital signals
[16:57] <BluesKaj> s98259,^
[17:01] <akik> s98259: richard stallman also hates the gui business :)
[17:01] <s98259> It is hsrrible... I feel for the poor guy
[17:01] <s98259> I wonder if he hates the mouse too
[17:02] <BluesKaj> linux audio is a messy business, and guis can help users make sense of the chaos
[17:03] <s98259> I just don't like being blindfolded by a nice pretty interface
[17:03] <s98259> BluesKaj: I noticed
[17:03] <s98259> I freaked out when I had to diagnose on my other partition
[17:04] <s98259> and as a visual learner, I hate it when people don't teach programming in a visual interactive way
[17:04] <BluesKaj> well, the cli is fione if you know what you're doing, but how many linux users really wnat to study enough to get a handle on it
[17:05] <s98259> but would rather make me pay for it
[17:05] <akik> s98259: you can control pulseaudio with pacmd
[17:05] <s98259> pacmd? That sounds new!
[17:05] <akik> yes
[17:05] <s98259> I love shiny new things!
[17:05] <akik> i don't know how old it is
[17:06] <akik> for example "pacmd list-cards"
[17:06] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio commands , if you use puilse, but I don't
[17:06] <BluesKaj> aplay -l
[17:06] <BluesKaj> does it
[17:06] <s98259> Wow, thanks for the intro to pacmd
[17:06] <s98259> It is nice!
[17:07] <s98259> I gotta brb
[17:11] <akik> the firefox forms element on kubuntu 16.04 haven't changed as they changed in kubuntu 14.04
[17:11] <akik> i'm baffled
[17:12] <s98259> akik: Don't worry about that, as nice as Linux is, it is still a jigsaw puzzle at times!
[17:13] <BluesKaj> Firefox is probly the same version and you have the same gtk settings for both OSs in system settings
[17:13] <akik> oh yes on 16.04 i have the breeze theme
[17:13] <akik> on 14.04 i have oxygen-gtk
[17:14] <akik> can i get breeze on 14.04 ?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> doubt it,need plasma 5 for breeze
[17:14] <s98259> Probably, some changes might need to be applied to make it compatible tho
[17:15] <s98259> There you go, plasma 5!
[17:15] <s98259> Good luck lol
[17:17] <akik> there's so many changes i'm doing after a plain install that i've had to start writing them down in a blog
[17:18] <s98259> Wow this pain and suffering, stupid tumour.
[17:18]  * s98259 reads the topic looking for a social channel
[17:18] <s98259> Wow nice!
[17:19] <s98259> akik: Blogs are nice
[17:19] <s98259> which is why I adopted a knowledge base for my business
[17:19] <s98259> Because I work with things like Xen and new technologies, methods, concepts and ideas!
[17:21] <s98259> and most people can't remember the technicalities of my business in one sitting, revision is key however but we need a central place to jot down what has been learned for other people within the company.
[17:22] <s98259> Centralization, organization and virtualization are key and the future to come.
[17:23] <s98259> But this is getting offtopic so I shall remain silent
[17:26] <BluesKaj> if you have an intel-hda audio chip then you can run your audio without pulse , which in some ways makes things less complicated, but more dependent your alsmixer settings
[17:27] <s98259> BluesKaj: Agreed
[17:27] <s98259> intel-hda is good
[17:28] <s98259> however the confusing thing about it is... that it is the kernel module for more venders than just intel.
[17:28] <s98259> Infact.... most likely your HD Audio soundcard requires it.
[17:29] <BluesKaj> s98259, yes ,but the chip will show themodule in alsamixer
[17:29] <s98259> I noticed that.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> s98259, or aplay -l
[17:32] <s98259> BluesKaj: Even lspci
[17:40] <s98259> BluesKaj: I am switching to optical audio soon!
[17:41] <BluesKaj> I'm using coax to my audio system DAC input
[19:01] <fuze>  what is the cause of this error when starting plasmashell: unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability
[19:03] <soee> fuze: well some plugin without version :)
[19:03] <fuze> soee: where can i see my plugins?
[19:03] <soee> better place to ask about it is: #plasma
[19:03] <soee> but devs are usually online in the work days 8:00-16:00
[19:44] <eluus> my kubuntu 16.04 wireless was working fine until just a few minutes ago
[19:44] <eluus> It's like wifi adapter doesn't exist
[19:44] <eluus> please help
[19:49] <kcroot_> Hi all
[20:26] <mht__> hi
[21:34] <yotux> seems like Ark is not liking zip files in 16.04
[22:17] <Startrek852> hi
[22:20] <clivejo> hi Startrek852
[22:21] <Startrek852> So, I have a question. Is there a way ro make mv write into a directory without overriding its contents?
[22:22] <Startrek852> *to
[22:25] <clivejo> Startrek852: http://askubuntu.com/questions/577035/mv-command-dont-overwrite-files
[22:35] <fuze> does kubuntu have multiarch?
[22:36] <Startrek852> clivejo: Thanks.
[22:36] <clivejo> fuze: mulitarch?
[22:37] <fuze> clivejo: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx#multiarch
[22:38] <clivejo> well there is i386 and amd64 arch iso's for download on our website?
[22:40] <fuze> clivejo: i got it
[22:40] <clivejo> if you run kinfocentre and look at os type it will tell you what you have installed
[22:40] <clivejo> or "uname -a" in a terminal
[22:41] <fuze> clivejo: another question, I want to Upgrade Kubuntu 15.10 to 16.04 LTS but the link at http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ doesnt work
[22:43] <clivejo> fuze: humm you are quite right!
[22:43] <fuze> clivejo: what do i dooo
[22:43] <clivejo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenialUpgrades/Kubuntu
[22:43] <clivejo> valorie: ^
[22:43] <fuze> clivejo: idk what that means
[22:43] <Startrek852> clivejo: "This page does not exist yet"
[22:44] <clivejo> sorry, Im pointing out to another team member that the page doesnt work
[22:44] <clivejo> hopefully get it fixed!
[22:44] <fuze> is there anything i can do for now?
[22:45] <Startrek852> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[22:45] <clivejo> I _think_ the upgrade command is "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[22:46] <Startrek852> or do-release-upgrae
[22:46] <Startrek852> or do-release-upgrade
[22:46] <clivejo> but try looking in muon updater
[22:48] <valorie> clivejo: what do we need on that page?
[22:48] <fuze> what does the -d flag mean?
[22:48] <clivejo> instruction!
[22:48] <valorie> the -d means developer
[22:48] <valorie> you shouldn't need it now that it's released
[22:49] <fuze> ok im going to let it run
[22:49] <clivejo> fuze: make sure your system it fully updated before you do
[23:05] <Startrek852> clivejo: I ran the mv --backup=existing, and it broke my directory tree
[23:06] <clivejo> what command did you run and what are you trying to do?
[23:06] <Startrek852> mv -v --backup=existing androidx86mm/* /media/andrew/androidx86/androidx86mm/*
[23:07] <Startrek852> trying to move android source code to a different partition
[23:08] <clivejo> well * will only copy the files in that level
[23:08] <Startrek852> I know.
[23:09] <Startrek852> All the source I want to copy is in that folder
[23:10] <clivejo> how did it break the directory tree?
[23:12] <Startrek852> gimme a minute
[23:12] <clivejo> for the destination you dont need a *
[23:13] <Startrek852> the askubuntu showed a * for both
[23:16] <clivejo> are you sure you want to use mv? ie move the files?
[23:16] <Startrek852> NVM, I fixed it.
[23:16] <Startrek852> Yes, I am.
[23:16] <clivejo> cp would probably be better
[23:16] <Startrek852> they need to not be on my home partition
[23:16] <clivejo> at least you'll have the originals if you mess up
[23:17] <Startrek852> I don't want to have the originals
[23:17] <Startrek852> I just want the off my home partition
[23:17] <Startrek852> *them
[23:17] <clivejo> oh right
[23:18] <clivejo> you could do that in dolphin too
[23:18] <clivejo> cut and paste, but choose not to overwrite
[23:19] <Startrek852> Yeah, but dolphin is slow sometimes, and with mv i can use schedtool
[23:19] <clivejo> I see
[23:21] <Startrek852> got it working
[23:34] <azure|2> Hello i have been experiencing a lot of plasma crashes lately with my second monitor. what happens is i log out and log nack in and my panel wont place on the second monitor it gets glitched and wont place on the top ot bottom of the screen. also when i do log out it moves to my first screen im using a nvidia card and open gl 3.1 in the compsitor. any help would be appriciated.
[23:39] <DarinMiller> azure|2: I have dual monitor system that is very stable. However plasma 5.5.5 is know to have issues, some of which are fixed in 5.6.  Watch for the xenial 5.6 backports ppa (https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports)
[23:41] <azure|2> ok ill keep an eye out for that to come up. i didnt have issues before the upgrade so i figured it had something to do with the compsoitor or something.