[04:37] <pavlushka> Good Morning Guys!
[04:37] <pavlushka> Helo
[04:37] <pavlushka> zaki: ooo, long time!!!
[05:03] <zaki> good morning.. :)
[05:03] <zaki> hah. long time. 
[05:03] <zaki> how are you?
[05:04] <pavlushka> great! and you?
[05:32] <pavlushka> Morning Kilos !
[05:32] <Kilos>  morning pavlushka 
[05:33] <pavlushka> How are you today?
[05:33] <Kilos> and zaki and annasha 
[05:33] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[05:33] <pavlushka> I am Good, thanks!
[05:43] <pavlushka> zaki: do you know when is the release party of ubuntu-bd?
[05:45] <Kilos> pavlushka have you tried redshift
[05:45] <Kilos> its in the repos
[05:45] <pavlushka> no, not yet, let me check it.
[06:00] <pavlushka> bbl
[06:06] <zaki> pavlushka, i don't know about it. 
[06:32] <annasha> hi
[06:32] <annasha> good
[06:34] <annasha> morning is gone
[06:34] <Kilos> hehe it is 8.35 am here still
[07:00] <zaki> so kilos what is your real name?
[07:00] <Kilos> Miles
[07:01] <Kilos> and yours zaki ?
[07:06] <zaki> nice.
[07:07] <zaki> mine is Zaki. :)
[07:07] <Kilos> cool
[08:03] <zaki> annasha, wb
[08:33] <zaki> pavlushka, 
[08:44] <NaSb> zaki: Hello Good Noon :)
[08:45] <zaki> good noon :) NaSb 
[08:45] <Kilos> hi NaSb 
[08:46] <NaSb> Hello Kilos, Good Morning 
[08:49] <zaki> nasb what do you do?  web developer?
[08:56] <pavlushka> Hello NaSb !
[08:56] <pavlushka> Hello Guest80164 !
[08:57] <pavlushka> And Mr. Rezwan, Hello!
[08:57] <Kilos> hehe
[08:57] <pavlushka> :)
[08:57] <Kilos> what curry today pavlushka 
[08:58] <pavlushka> still to find out, giggles!
[08:58] <Kilos> we can buy a wonderful vegetable curry here made by golddish
[08:58] <Kilos> great to just eat out of the can
[09:00] <pavlushka> sounds cool!
[09:01] <pavlushka> QA define golddish
[09:01] <QA> pavlushka: I don't know about golddish. Maybe you meant Goldfish or goldfish?
[09:02] <Kilos> golddish here
[09:02] <Kilos> http://www.pakco.co.za/gold-dish/
[09:04] <zaki> :D
[09:04] <Kilos> the hot one is just as nice
[09:05] <Kilos> im a curry muncher
[09:07] <pavlushka> mmm, a little indie range, the golddish can series!
[09:10] <Kilos> there are other brands in cans as well but golddish is my favourite
[09:10] <pavlushka> so yummy of you Kilos !
[09:10] <pavlushka> :p
[09:11] <Kilos> haha
[16:16] <Kilos> pavlushka 
[16:17] <Kilos> turn off your redshift and find a nice background and run it again and watch
[16:20] <pavlushka> Kilos, eating, will do asap
[16:20] <Kilos> ok
[16:45] <belkinsa> o/ all
[16:45] <Kilos> hi  belkinsa 
[16:45] <belkinsa> How are you, Kilos?
[16:45] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[16:45] <Kilos> getting cold thats all
[16:46] <belkinsa> Bummer, I hope you get well soon.
[16:46] <Kilos> 5°c here tonight
[16:46] <Kilos> im not sick just hate cold weather
[16:46] <Kilos> how are you?
[16:46] <Kilos> hard to type when you are shivering
[16:47] <belkinsa> Oh, I see.  I'm fine, I had an amazing walk out in the woods today but now I'm home working on "Goals for Y Cyle" blog post that should be published soon.
[16:47] <Kilos> great
[16:50] <zaki> what are you talking about?
[16:50] <Kilos> what she is working on zaki 
[16:51] <Kilos> belkinsa is on the uuntu membership board and helping to revive dead locos
[16:52] <Kilos> ubuntu*
[16:52] <Kilos> we want more peeps to get ubuntu membership
[16:52] <zaki> ow. good.
[16:53] <pavlushka> belkinsa, \o/
[16:53] <zaki> pavlushka, hi
[16:53] <pavlushka> Hello, zaki !
[16:54] <zaki> how are you doing?
[16:54] <zaki> i hve some question for you.
[16:54] <pavlushka> doing great
[16:55] <pavlushka> ask please
[16:57] <zaki> about ubuntu user group and file pemission.
[16:57] <zaki> i'm not so good at it. :(
[16:59] <pavlushka> zaki whats your problem with group & file permission?
[16:59] <zaki> do have any resources? where i can easily understand about it.
[17:00] <zaki> i installed lamp stack in ubuntu.
[17:00] <pavlushka> you can google it and there are many short tutorials for it.
[17:01] <pavlushka> but you can ask here for specific cases.
[17:03] <zaki> the problem is my local website location is  /var/www/html/ so when i'm run it as noo root all files are not execute properly
[17:05] <zaki> i'm thinking i'ts for not enough permission.
[17:05] <pavlushka> zaki, sorry , didn't get the " noo root"
[17:05] <zaki> non*
[17:11] <zaki> question is How do I change the root directory of an apache server? :| 
[17:16] <belkinsa> zaki: This is who I am: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/belkinsa
[17:16] <belkinsa> And this is the post I was refering too, now published: http://senseopenness.com/goals-for-y-cycle/
[17:18] <zaki> reading. :)
[17:23] <pavlushka> belkinsa, hello , how are you?
[17:23] <zaki> hmm. good. :)
[17:25] <pavlushka> zaki, tell me what you've done to install lamp-stack and created the webpage, the procedure in brief.
[17:26] <belkinsa> pavlushka: See my reply to Kilos' question of the same type.  Minus the blog post.
[17:27] <pavlushka> belkinsa, on it.
[17:28] <zaki> oh. i just followed a tute from Digital Ocean blog.
[17:28] <pavlushka> zaki, no 1,that is not updated.
[17:29] <zaki> oky. than?
[17:29] <pavlushka> zaki, wait a bit.
[17:29] <zaki> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[17:30] <pavlushka> zaki, exactly
[17:32] <pavlushka> belkinsa, wow at Stone Soup’s Dungeon Crawl! gigles!
[17:33] <pavlushka> zaki, did the installation process completed smoothly?
[17:34] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:34] <zaki> so i put my codes in var/www/html and run it from browser the some files are not working. i googled, and peeps saying that this problem happening cz i'hv not enough permission to access.
[17:34] <zaki> yap everythinh oky with installation.
[17:35] <pavlushka> zaki, ok
[17:35] <zaki> pavlushka, are u from dhaka?
[17:35] <pavlushka> Panchagarh
[17:36] <pavlushka> zaki, the /var/www/html folder is root owned
[17:37] <pavlushka> you should change the group owner to www-data
[17:38] <zaki> yap i know that. so now i want to know can i change the root derectory of my apache server? or how can i get enough permission?
[17:40] <zaki> .
[17:41] <pavlushka> zaki, http://askubuntu.com/questions/341726/apache-the-var-www-has-root-as-owner && http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www?lq=1
[17:42] <zaki> pavlushka, are you from dhaka?
[17:43] <pavlushka> zaki, I am from Panchagarh, Rangpur Division. :)
[17:43] <zaki> oky. :)
[17:44] <pavlushka> zaki, if you are still confused after following those links, you can ask about which part you are confused, :)
[17:45] <zaki> oky i'm reading. 
[17:49] <Kilos> pavlushka have you watched redswitch working
[17:50] <Kilos> if you watch a landscape it looks like the sun is going down
[17:51] <pavlushka> Kilos, really extremely sorry, right after eating, get involved with zaki's problem, on it.
[17:51] <Kilos> np man
[17:51] <Kilos> it just is interesting
[17:52] <Kilos> and good for people that battle to sleep
[17:52]  * pavlushka laughs
[17:52] <Kilos> cutting off the blue light promotes better sleep
[17:53] <Kilos> blue light stops your body producing melonin i think it is called
[17:53] <zaki> but there is one problem which is a huge one. I do not have permissions to Write to /var/www folder although I am Administrator. The current owner of that www folder is root. these lines made me cry. :( 
[17:54] <Kilos> zaki what do you want to write in there
[17:55] <Kilos> there is a command to take permission of a file or folder but needs to be used very carefully
[17:55] <Kilos> otherwise it steals all roots power
[17:56] <zaki> chmod 744 -R /var/www/ this one?
[17:56] <Kilos> pavlushka research using chown and help him
[17:56] <Kilos> does that www have to be in /var/
[17:56] <pavlushka> yes Kilos.
[17:56] <pavlushka> yes Kilos 
[17:57] <Kilos> what
[17:57] <pavlushka> answer of your both question.
[17:57] <Kilos> lol
[17:57] <pavlushka> :p
[17:57] <Kilos> i would be wary of using chown in root areas
[17:58] <Kilos> but it has the power to take permissions from anywhere
[17:59] <zaki> than?
[17:59] <pavlushka> zaki, chmod 744 -R /var/www/ , this part changes the permission recursively within /var/www directory and anything inside it.
[18:00] <belkinsa> pavlushka: what's so funny on what I wrote?
[18:00] <zaki> chmod 754 -R /var/www/  and this one?
[18:00] <Kilos>  belkinsa you have many goals hey
[18:00] <Kilos> when do you rest
[18:01] <Kilos> should be safe to use chmod 754 -R /var/www/ zaki 
[18:01] <belkinsa> I can rest!  I'm only going to spend a few hours a week on them.
[18:02]  * belkinsa will be back, making fresh mint tea.
[18:02] <zaki> why?
[18:02] <pavlushka> zaki, 744 only gives normal user to read the files but cant execute any executables and no write permission, but 754 gives a normal user read and execute permission but not write permission,
[18:04]  * pavlushka wishes if he could had some of that mint tea!
[18:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:04] <Kilos> pavlushka dont you have mint growing anywhere
[18:05] <Kilos> grows well if near a tap so it can be watered often
[18:05] <zaki> oky. :) but how can a normal user can get write permission?
[18:07] <zaki> wondering what sudo chmod a+r /var/www/???? this will do?
[18:08] <pavlushka> zaki, try to understand the two "Solution 1 && Solution 2" of this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www?lq=1
[18:09] <pavlushka> belkinsa, I am puzzled by your question, sorry, if you please rephrase at "<belkinsa> pavlushka: what's so funny on what I wrote?"
[18:10] <pavlushka> belkinsa, got it, 
[18:11] <pavlushka> belkinsa, you too playing games!, that's interesting, the giggles were giggles of love.
[18:12] <belkinsa> pavlushka: you understand what I mean?  Ah, I see.  I do play games, I'm on Steam but alas, Steam doesn't want to run Ubuntu 16.03 64 bit.
[18:13] <pavlushka> :(
[18:18] <belkinsa> I think my duty is finished here.  If you guys need me, please feel free to PM me and I will jump back on.
[18:18] <belkinsa> o/ all
[18:18] <Kilos> ohh my
[18:18] <zaki> oky.
[18:19] <pavlushka> zaki, if you give write permission to normal user, then anyone can change the content of your page, and you dont expect it I think.
[18:20] <pavlushka> Kilos, yes, ohh my
[18:20] <zaki> nope thats only for my local environment! its not ok?
[18:22] <pavlushka> zaki, no
[18:22] <zaki> hmm.
[18:25] <pavlushka> zaki, when you open an webpage, you actually log in to that remote machine through http port having only access to /var/www/ with read permission and without any password.
[18:27] <zaki> oky there is security issues!
[18:27] <pavlushka> yes.
[18:36] <zaki> ok thanks. i'm going to try this. :)
[18:38] <zaki> what do you think? which solution is good to try? 1 or two? i think 1.
[18:39] <pavlushka> zaki, me too, :p
[18:39] <zaki> what is funny here? :|
[18:40] <pavlushka> zaki, I am trying to release the tension, you should always be in cheerful mood like Kilos , :p
[18:40] <zaki> ha ha.. :D
[18:41] <zaki> some days ago i just give up on this permission thing. :/
[18:45] <pavlushka> zaki, you should dig deep on this topic and with more patience.
[18:46] <zaki> yap.
[18:46] <zaki> so what are you doing/
[18:46] <zaki> ?
[18:48] <pavlushka> zaki, at this moment concentrating on your problem but now I am shifting my mind, :p
[18:48] <zaki> hah . :D 
[18:49] <pavlushka> and fixing a cricket bat's rubber grip.
[18:50] <zaki> i miss playing cricket. :(
[19:46] <zaki> time to go.. ! 
[19:46] <pavlushka> Good night zaki !
[19:46] <zaki> thank pavlushka . :) Kilos . 
[19:47] <zaki> Good Night all :)
[20:00] <Kilos> night guys and lady