[00:00] <filifunk> also that my TCP/IP port address is already in use
[00:00] <Hydr0p0nX> ok
[00:00] <Hydr0p0nX> sudo service mysql stop
[00:00] <filifunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16161159/plain/
[00:00] <filifunk> ok, stopped
[00:01] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk : sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=mysql &
[00:01] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: once that comes back, run ls /var/run/mysqld/ and make sure the .sock file is present
[00:03] <filifunk> i did the "sudo /usr..." command and after printing out some stuff it doesn't look like its doing anything
[00:04] <Hydr0p0nX> ok
[00:04] <Hydr0p0nX> just hit enter and you should get a command prompt back
[00:04] <filifunk> ok
[00:05] <Hydr0p0nX> ls /var/run/mysqld/
[00:05] <filifunk> ls: cannot access '/var/run/mysqld/': No such file or directory
[00:05] <Hydr0p0nX> ls /var/run/ ?
[00:05] <Geo_> hey all im getting a random error - WHen trying to run PronterFace in ubuntu.
[00:05] <Geo_> Connecting...
[00:05] <Geo_> [ERROR] Could not connect to /dev/ttyACM0 at baudrate 115200:
[00:05] <Geo_> Serial error: could not open port /dev/ttyACM0: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/dev/ttyACM0'
[00:06] <Geo_> How do i elevate Permissions
[00:06] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nx, i did ls /var/run/ and I don't see a .sock file
[00:06] <filifunk> oh I see a snapd.socket
[00:06] <Hydr0p0nX> see an mysqld directory ?
[00:07] <filifunk> no
[00:07] <Hydr0p0nX> ok, that's the problem
[00:07] <filifunk> boom
[00:08] <filifunk> should I have to make that folder and file?
[00:08] <filifunk> Or is that hidden somewhere else and I just have to paste it into that directory
[00:09] <Hydr0p0nX> no
[00:09] <Hydr0p0nX> just sudo mkdir /var/run/mysqld
[00:09] <theShirbiny> Geo_, sudo <command>
[00:09] <Hydr0p0nX> then stop the service and restart with the command I gave you
[00:09] <donofrio> so if sound does work when I type "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" how do I get it to go though pianobar
[00:09] <donofrio> casue pianobar just says "/|\ cannot open audio device"
[00:10] <kostasz> anyone know how to deal with the error "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Permision denied" ?
[00:11] <Hydr0p0nX> kostasz: see if this applies: http://askubuntu.com/questions/627356/xubuntu-15-04-cannot-suspend-when-inactive
[00:12] <kostasz> Hydr0p0nX: thank you, already tried, no luck
[00:12] <kostasz> but it's relevant to same error
[00:12] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: how's that working ?
[00:13] <maxi_> alguien habla español? necesito ayuda
[00:13] <Hydr0p0nX> kostasz: since it's login related, i'm assuming you rebooted after the change ?
[00:14] <terrasapien> put kubuntu 16.04 on a USB stick (checksums verified) and fired it up a while ago
[00:14] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nx, still get an error
[00:14] <maxi_> can you helpme plis?
[00:15] <filifunk> service failed because the control process exited with error code
[00:15] <filifunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16161252/
[00:15] <terrasapien> sadly all terminal prompts and otion boxes started throwing repeat 555555...
[00:15] <filifunk> that is from the journalctl -xe
[00:15] <terrasapien> this on a box which has run other OS for months with no trouble
[00:15] <kostasz> Hydr0p0nX: yes, I have rebooted after that
[00:15] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: We just need mysql logs at this point
[00:15] <maxi_> im install virtual dj in Ubuntu Mate, im is new in this SO
[00:15] <kostasz> I also tries this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180798
[00:16] <kostasz> rebooted and still no luck
[00:16] <terrasapien> anyone else had this happen?
[00:16] <effectnet> hi and welcome
[00:16] <effectnet> i am noob hear me roar
[00:16] <squinty> !spanish | maxi
[00:16] <chillpill_>  Translation failed
[00:16] <filifunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16161273/plain/
[00:17] <filifunk> I see the same errors right?
[00:17] <squinty> terrasapien, maybe a stuck keyboard button
[00:17] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: ps -ef |grep mysqld
[00:17] <terrasapien> squinty: except this box has never done that before or since
[00:18] <filifunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16161300/
[00:19] <terrasapien> anyway, I'll try it again a few times and see if this is consitent behavior
[00:19] <terrasapien> just thought it might have been some known issue
[00:20] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: sudo kill 10850 ; then run ps -ef |grep mysqld and make sure only the line w/ grep in it is listed, restart the same way again
[00:20] <squinty> terrasapien,  then  "maybe a intermittent stuck keyboard button"    not really sure what you are meaning about "never happened before or since"   stuck keyboard buttons are a common problem and one that may never repeat itself
[00:21] <Hydr0p0nX> kostasz: those are the two I found that would be related, I haven't had to deal with powersaving on mine, so i haven't dug in to much; maybe there's a group your user needs to be in ?
[00:21] <terrasapien> squinty: yes, it's possible, yet unlikely since I use this same keyboard heavily everyday
[00:21] <terrasapien> typing on it now
[00:22] <terrasapien> and have never seen this "5" key, or any other key stick
[00:22] <squinty> terrasapien, ok time to end this subject
[00:23] <filifunk> still errored
[00:23] <filifunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16161352/plain/
[00:23] <kostasz> Hydr0p0nX: well, in fact, it happens on Xubuntu if that matters
[00:23] <kostasz> but #ubuntu chat is more crowded
[00:24] <kostasz> and I doubt it is strongly connected with DE, but idk
[00:24] <HetroErectus> bah.. is it impossible to create a new partition on a 3 tb disk without having to wipe the entire disk with a new MBR-system?
[00:25] <kostasz> Hydr0p0nX: BTW, do you know a way to enable suspend if no user is logged in? I'm talking about a scenario in which someone has turned on a home PC and left a house and so the PC will suspend to save energy
[00:26] <kostasz> all auto-suspend config I know about  is user-related
[00:26] <squinty> HetroErectus,  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[00:27] <Hydr0p0nX> kostasz: I'm not aware of any other than userlevel
[00:27] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: have you modified my.cnf at all?
[00:28] <squinty> HetroErectus,  and of course, the usual suggestions about backing up important files etc first applies
[00:28] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nx, yes, I have.  I can easily take that out
[00:28] <filifunk> I was just copying what I saw online in another person's solution
[00:29] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: yea, revert it to default, stop ay mysql processes, then bring it back up
[00:29] <kostasz> Hydr0p0nX: thank you for your time!
[00:30] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nx, well I didn't  get an error upon starting it
[00:31] <filifunk> but when I try to log on using mysql -u root I still have access denied
[00:31] <Hydr0p0nX> kostasz: Sorry I couldn't be more help, someone here has surely run into it though
[00:31] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: try running mysql -u root -p
[00:32] <filifunk> well now I'm back to my original problem, I used to log in without a password.  Now it seems to want a password which I did not create
[00:32] <kostasz> question to all: do you know a way to make ubuntu suspend even if no user is logged in?
[00:32] <Hydr0p0nX> ok
[00:32] <Hydr0p0nX> that's good at least
[00:33] <filifunk> yeah!
[00:33] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: this is a little older but should be similar https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset ; just replace /etc/init.d calls with service
[00:34] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nX would you mind giving me a short summary of what we have done so far to get to this point?  We had to set up a folder and then get rid of a change I made to my.cnf
[00:34] <filifunk> was that basically it?
[00:35] <Hydr0p0nX> filifunk: that + install apparmor-utils and run aa-complain /usr/sbin/mysqld
[00:35] <wafflej0ck> Hydr0p0nX, filifunk actually I have a solution for running with the skip grants flags that just modifies the systemd .service scripts to use the skip grants flag when it's running mysqld
[00:35] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nx ahh yes that's right, thanks
[00:36] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16042824/
[00:36] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, ok, will try
[00:36] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, that was from a few days ago when someone was trying to do the mysqld skipping grant tables just lets you override part of the regular service script temporarily (would want to revert this after changing the password)
[00:38] <wafflej0ck> I just checked out the scripts systemd itself does in that pre script and it just does a few sanity checks to make sure you have a my.cnf file and a few other config things in place
[00:38] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, how do I save the file in the file that opens?
[00:39] <filifunk> or do I just exit
[00:39] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, it actually depends on your default editor, do you see ^O ^C and the like in the bottom of the screen?
[00:39] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, if you do it's using nano, then use Ctrl+O to write the file out then Ctrl+X to exit
[00:41] <filifunk> wafflej0ck, yes, ^O is write out and ^C is Cur Pos
[00:41] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, okay yeah the ^ means Ctrl
[00:41] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, so Ctrl+O to write then Ctrl+X to exit
[00:41] <filifunk> oh write out means save, got it
[00:41] <kostasz> yeah, nano is confusing at first
[00:44] <filifunk> HOLY CRAP I SEE MY DATABASES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> yay!!!
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> good jerb Hydr0p0nX
[00:44] <Hydr0p0nX> *whew*
[00:44] <Hydr0p0nX> was running out of ideas
[00:44] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nX, wafflej0ck thank you the most!
[00:44] <Hydr0p0nX> lol
[00:44] <filifunk> LOL
[00:45] <kostasz> congrats
[00:45] <filifunk> how long have you guys or girls been working with linux?
[00:46] <filifunk> Hydr0p0nx and wafflej0ck
[00:46] <Hydr0p0nX> ummm, about 12yrs off and on
[00:46] <wafflej0ck> filifunk, ah long time but has been on and off until about 3 years ago then switched to using desktop linux for my web dev work
[00:46] <Hydr0p0nX> with 6 of those being in administration
[00:47] <treva> hi
[00:47] <B0g4r7_> First install 1998ish.
[00:47] <Hydr0p0nX> heya trench
[00:47] <Hydr0p0nX> err treva
[00:47] <filifunk> nice, yeah I imagine a lot of time haha.  I'm in the finance industry and just messing around with this because all the quantitative analysts use linux and python and mysql.  Trying not to feel left out haha.
[00:48] <Hydr0p0nX> my first install was mandriva maybe ?
[00:48] <Hydr0p0nX> or slackware 4.x
[00:48] <wafflej0ck> think mine was suse but ubuntu was soon after in terms of first installs
[00:49] <wafflej0ck> think it was about 10 years ago but I just tinkered with it on and off till more recently
[00:49] <ci3ho> hello
[00:49] <ci3ho> rsync keeps creating parent directories. does using --no-implied-dirs with -R cancel it out?
[00:49] <filifunk> I think my first linux distro was ubuntu's Hardy Heron.  But really havent' touched the stuff since karmic Koala
[00:50] <cfhowlett> guys: less chit chat, more ubuntu support please?  or use #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:50] <reisio> ci3ho: easily tested, no?
[00:50] <ci3ho> reisio: negative
[00:50] <reisio> ci3ho: child directories must have their parents, however
[00:50] <filifunk> cfhowlett, ah yes, sorry my first time on this IRC, still learning the rules
[00:50] <reisio> ci3ho: politely formed as a question: it is easily tested
[00:54] <ci3ho> reisio: im not your friend any more :(
[00:57] <reisio> ci3ho: :/
[01:00] <agronholm> hi, has anyone here ever succeeded on booting a Ubuntu installation in UEFI mode? I have not.
[01:01] <agronholm> *in
[01:01] <agronholm> it just drops me to grub, no explanations or errors
[01:01] <cfhowlett> agronholm, avoid " has anyone ..." questions.  huge waste of time.  state YOUR issues and YOUR specifications
[01:01] <recon_lap> agronholm: you mean booting from UEFI ? Sure.
[01:02] <agronholm> ok, what specifications would be necessary here? I have two servers, a HP Proliant gen9 server and a Lenovo ThinkServer (don't remember exact model)
[01:02] <agronholm> both will happily install ubuntu in UEFI mode but booting does not work
[01:02] <agronholm> I don't know how to debug this
[01:03] <recon_lap> agronholm: well, where does booting break/stop?
[01:03] <agronholm> recon_lap: as I said, it just gives me the grub prompt
[01:03] <agronholm> instead of booting the OS
[01:04] <agronholm> oh, I managed to catch something in a screenshot on the Lenovo server
[01:04] <agronholm> "error: failure reading sector 0x0 from `cd0'
[01:05] <agronholm> there was something else there for a split second but I didn't catch it
[01:06] <cfhowlett> agronholm, dual booting or ubuntu only?
[01:06] <agronholm> cfhowlett: ubuntu only
[01:06] <cfhowlett> http://askubuntu.com/questions/219563/cant-even-try-ubuntu-due-to-error-failure-reading-sector-0x5b500-from-hd1
[01:07] <agronholm> this person seems to have problems even booting the install media
[01:08] <cfhowlett> read further.  a solution is offered
[01:09] <agronholm> cfhowlett: I know how to install ubuntu in legacy bios mode
[01:09] <agronholm> I would just like to learn why it fails to boot with UEFI and to fix it
[01:10] <agronholm> but I am pretty clueless with grub's CLI so I can't use it to debug this problem
[01:14] <recon_lap1> agronholm: and I take it you can boot from a USB/CD ?
[01:15] <agronholm> recon_lap1: well, I did install the OS from a USB stick (on the HP server) and from a virtual cdrom drive (on the Lenovo server)
[01:15] <agronholm> both would complete the installation in UEFI mode
[01:15] <agronholm> but the installed OS won't boot; it just drops me to the grub prompt
[01:16] <dave0x6d> Hmm, so I'm trying to update my instance, but it's just getting stuck at 0%.
[01:16] <snapsnail> Hello
[01:16] <Emrederseniz> hi there, i have question; how can i give internet high access to any program (dota)?
[01:16] <dave0x6d> 0% [Connecting to us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com (54.205.195.154)]
[01:16] <recon_lap1> agronholm: and have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[01:17] <agronholm> recon_lap1: what in particular are you referring to there?
[01:18] <squinty> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[01:18] <dave0x6d> Oops, it was because I firewalled it =p
[01:20] <recon_lap1> agronholm: well, we still far from knowing what is actually failing. working through one of the guides might narrow it down. making a wild guess I'm thinking grub is not finding you OS root drive.
[01:20] <agronholm> recon_lap1: sounds like a sensible guess
[01:21] <agronholm> I'm trying to figure out how to make grub list available devices
[01:22] <recon_lap1> agronholm: that grub trouble shooting guide linked by squinty seems like a good place to start. I'm pretty much a UEFI noob only having recently had to set one up.
[01:22] <reisio> Emrederseniz: hrmm?
[01:22] <squinty> agronholm,  might want to consider Boot-Repair as an initial option.  no guarentees but worth a shot imho...
[01:23] <Emrederseniz> reisio : how can use that command
[01:23] <agronholm> squinty: ok I'll look into it
[01:23] <reisio> Emrederseniz: ...what command?
[01:23] <Emrederseniz> reisio, what is the hrmm, sory im new on ubuntu
[01:24] <recon_lap1> agronholm: and a tip, make a backup of the UEFI partition after you get it working. :)
[01:24] <B0g4r7_> Emrederseniz, we do not understand what you are trying to accomplish.
[01:25] <Emrederseniz> B0g4r7_, i want, give highway access permission to any program
[01:25] <Rhorse> remember you can boot any kernel from a grub command line, be it a grub boot disk or other medium....
[01:26] <B0g4r7_> highway access permission huh.
[01:26] <B0g4r7_> I run dota 2 on linux, and I didn't have to do anything special to play online.
[01:26] <Emrederseniz> B0g4r7_, i have package loss and ping momently
[01:27] <agronholm> recon_lap1: ok it seems like "root" is set to "(hd1,gpt1)" but that's the EFI partition, no /boot there
[01:27] <agronholm> recon_lap1: I don't even know where /boot is supposed to be in a UEFI setup
[01:27] <B0g4r7_> Emrederseniz, that sounds like a network issue.  I don't think changing a setting in your software is likely to fix it.
[01:28] <Emrederseniz> B0g4r7_, no not about my network i know that
[01:29] <agronholm> recon_lap1: if you could verify the location of /boot, that would help a lot
[01:30] <agronholm> actually I should've tried one of the md devices but they too give me the same error
[01:31] <agronholm> I have root on software raid-1)
[01:32] <agronholm> I was under the impression that grub is supposed to support xfs
[01:32] <agronholm> (at least I got it to boot in legacy bios mode with an xfs root disk)
[01:38] <agronholm> ok it appears the root cause could be that grub does not support XFS
[01:39] <agronholm> I'll try to reinstall with ext4 and see if anything changes
[01:41] <cfhowlett> agronholm, I understood that grub should now support xfs
[01:41] <agronholm> cfhowlett: then how do you explain that grub gives me those errors?
[01:42] <agronholm> it can only read the EFI partitions (fat16)
[01:42] <agronholm> but none of my xfs partitions
[01:42] <cfhowlett> I have no raid or xfs experience  - merely commenting on XFS recent inclusion in ubuntu
[01:42] <cfhowlett> but if you do not *need* xfs, then ext4 should work out of the box
[01:43] <agronholm> I was under that impression too (given that root on xfs works in legacy bios mode on the HP server)
[01:43] <cfhowlett> suggestion: ask #ubuntu-server
[01:43] <agronholm> ok
[01:51] <asd30> hiya
[01:51] <B0g4r7_> I had xfs as my rootfs on lvm on raid-1, and grub had no problems.
[01:52] <B0g4r7_> Once I converted the rootlv to the "lvmcache" type, then grub did have a problem, and I had to break /boot off onto its own lv.
[01:52] <asd30> when trying to backup my vps (kvm), should i include the swapfile? if not, lets say i have to restore from backup on a bare install and i forget to create the swapfile -- will ubuntu still boot in?
[01:56] <coffeeguy> hi i was wondering why my connection manager says wiredconnection1 instead of wiredconnection?
[01:56] <B0g4r7_> Wow, windows xp installs and runs inside of virtualbox a lot better than it ever did for me on bare metal.
[01:57] <yourname3> coffeeguy: have you had 2 wired connections since it was powered on?
[01:57] <coffeeguy> no
[01:57] <Tuxfuk> haw many dewices are in ifconfig -a?
[01:58] <coffeeguy> lemme look
[01:58] <coffeeguy> hmm just en4s0 and lo
[01:58] <coffeeguy> enp4s0*
[01:59] <Tuxfuk> odd
[01:59] <B0g4r7_> I hate this new network device name convention.
[01:59] <Tuxfuk> can you rename the network1 to network0 or network?
[01:59] <Tuxfuk> oh it starts with1?
[01:59] <coffeeguy> i noticed it after i tried to install firewall configuration in software center and the install was very buggy
[01:59] <Tuxfuk> that's terrible. that makes you think there is two things
[02:00] <B0g4r7_> I want my eth0 back gurdernnit.
[02:00] <coffeeguy> lol yah
[02:00] <Tuxfuk> lol i have enp10s0
[02:00] <coffeeguy> ??
[02:00] <Tuxfuk> as my ethernet name
[02:00] <coffeeguy> i mean there's tty1 and then tty7 which is called old
[02:00] <coffeeguy> aah kk
[02:00] <Tuxfuk> yeah i've never liked that either
[02:01] <coffeeguy> well ok as long as that's normal i'm good
[02:02] <coffeeguy> thanks for responding Tuxfuk :D
[02:02] <coffeeguy> i mean to my question :)
[02:03] <Tuxfuk> yeah no problem. sorry it's stupid
[02:04] <coffeeguy> i'm a little worried since i tried to get a print out page for my printer config by holding down the wps button and found out later i was connected to someone else lol wps on my home wifi is disabled
[02:10] <logicalor> hello.  i have installed ubuntu server 16.04, and have installed MariaDB from the MariaDB repositories ie, added the repo via apt-add-repository, then updated / installed.  Now if I run apt-get dist-upgrade, ubuntu wants to replace MariaDB with Mysql.  Any idea how to prevent Ubuntu doing this?
[02:10] <PCF> hello?
[02:12] <PCF> I am looking for help with ubuntu server
[02:13] <cfhowlett> !server | PCF
[02:15] <OrbitSnow> 1846 people online? Jeez.
[02:15] <PCF> I am trying to configure an unpriviliged LXC container, but it will not start. I get an error saying it does not have permission to access /home/username and fails
[02:16] <OrbitSnow> Have you tried using chmod or chown to fix the permissions?
[02:16] <OrbitSnow> http://www.unixref.com/guides/chmod-guide.php
[02:19] <OrbitSnow> So is mir incompatible with Nvidia cards? I've tried with official drivers and with nouveau and I always get a black screen and back to lightdm.
[02:22] <lwizardl> hello
[02:23] <Rhorse> logicalor: Upgrade, then reinstall MariaDB.
[02:24] <lwizardl> in ALSA Mixer the sound card options are "HDA ATI SB (Alsa Mixer)" and "HDA ATI HDMI (Alsa Mixer)" which looks like it is trying to use the audio from my gpu and not the onboard audio. Is there a guide to fix that ?
[02:24] <Sorikan> Can anyone point me to a walk through of how to install VNC on ubuntu desktop that autstarts? I have tried three different walkthroughs, and x2go and none of them work. And the @*#&$^ ubuntu 'software' app only has a vnc client!
[02:25] <OrbitSnow> Try vinagre
[02:26] <OrbitSnow> sudo apt-get install vinagre
[02:27] <Sorikan> That seems to be a client? Or is it both?
[02:27] <OrbitSnow> Wait, that's only a client as well. RealVNC has a server app.
[02:27] <reisio> the "clients" like vinagre are actually... frontends
[02:27] <squinty> apt (or aptitude_ search vnc | grep server
[02:27] <logicalor> Rhorse, if I upgrade, and MariaDB is replaced, is there any possibility that Ubuntu will, for whatever reason, prevent me from installing MariaDB over the 'new' MySQL installation?
[02:27] <OrbitSnow> https://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/documentation/5.0/installing-removing/debian
[02:27] <reisio> basically all the vnc packages come with both a client and server
[02:28] <reisio> Sorikan: what I use is tigervnc's X.org module
[02:28] <reisio> it's very simple & straightforward, you just add a short bit to xorg.conf.d
[02:29] <agronholm> cfhowlett: follow-up: booting worked fine once I used ext4 for the root partition and not xfs
[02:30] <OrbitSnow> f2fs is the only thing I would use over ext4, and that's only on an ssd
[02:30] <OrbitSnow> from what i've seen ext4 is faster than everything but f2fs
[02:31] <agronholm> from what benchmarks I've seen, it's not
[02:31] <agronholm> depends on the load though
[02:31] <Sorikan> I just have a hard time understanding how, in 2016, ubuntu does not have a simple vnc server for remote support and such. It simply boggles me.
[02:31] <OrbitSnow> Really? What benchmarks are those? I'd like to see that.
[02:31] <agronholm> OrbitSnow: benchmarks I've seen on phoronix.com
[02:32] <reisio> Sorikan: hrmm? It comes with one, you enable it via a checkbox in system prefs
[02:32] <OrbitSnow> On SSDs?
[02:32] <agronholm> OrbitSnow: I'm not sure
[02:32] <squinty> Sorikan,  it does   use apt or aptitude to search for it
[02:32] <agronholm> Sorikan: for remote support though, I prefer teamviewer over vnc
[02:33] <squinty> nomachine
[02:33] <PCF> I broke my file permissions =\
[02:33] <OrbitSnow> PCF: http://www.unixref.com/guides/chmod-guide.php
[02:33] <Sorikan> reisio, you mean system settings? If so, cannot find it
[02:37] <Immatix> Anyone here using dnsmasq on 16.04?
[02:38] <Immatix> I'm having a bit of a problem with systemd starting dnsmasq before network.target is reached http://paste.ubuntu.com/16162484/
[02:39] <Immatix> /lib/systemd/system/dnsmasq.service contains Requires=network.target under the [Unit] section
[02:39] <dax> Immatix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1531184 , workaround is in second comment
[02:39] <prelude2004c> hey guys.. need some help
[02:40] <prelude2004c> ERROR: libfdk_aac not found
[02:40] <prelude2004c>  .... i installed the libfdk_aac_dev package
[02:40] <prelude2004c> what gives ? .. i get that error when i try to compile ffmpeg
[02:41] <Immatix> dax: Ah, so there is a bug for it. Wasn't able to find that with the right Googling, guess I should've looked it up specifically under the dnsmasq package
[02:41] <dax> Immatix: yep. there's a couple of others on the buglist that might be the same issue, but i'm not sure (doesn't help that the output's in french on them...)
[02:41] <Sorikan> CAn anyone tell me where this remote support option is? I cannto find it under System Settings - was it removed?
[02:42] <PCF> i did 'chmod -R 744' on my home directory and now LXC cannot access it at all
[02:44] <PCF> chmod -R 777 is bad right?
[02:44] <Immatix> dax: I think it might have been missed because it likely only affects people that are using the bind-interfaces option in dnsmasq, by default it just listens on all interfaces
[02:44] <Immatix> Interestingly, I have to use bind-interfaces otherwise dnsmasq won't respond to queries on my VLAN interfaces, which all have the same link-local address
[02:50] <Werewolf> Hello. I am experiencing dependency hell when attempting to finish a distribution ugprade.
[02:50] <Immatix> I suppose I'd better reboot to make sure the fix works
[02:51] <Werewolf> http://pastebin.com/4UzB5Dnp
[02:51] <BENTLERyB> Hi folks.
[02:51] <TheFocus> monring all.  any ideas on how to fix samba share after 16.04 install???  Is there a common fix or more ifo needed?
[02:52] <BENTLERyB> I've got the new Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but since the installation I've had certain instances of screen tearing.
[02:52] <Werewolf> I welcome PMs, I really need assistance.
[02:52] <BENTLERyB> I don't do any gaming. The tearing happens when I'm browsing the web.
[02:52] <BENTLERyB> Certain text becomes blurred/teared.
[02:53] <BENTLERyB> I haven't noticed it since I changed my window Manager from Marcos with Software Compositor to Marcos with GPU Compisitor
[02:53] <BENTLERyB> but I only made that change 15 mins ago.
[02:53] <BENTLERyB> Could that help?
[02:53] <dax> yes
[02:54] <Poke95> .
[02:54] <BENTLERyB> Why would it help? What do you think is to blame for the tearing I experienced?
[02:54] <Poke95> Oh I am voiced now
[02:54] <Poke95> Oh sorry wrong channel
[02:54] <dax> BENTLERyB: because doing the same thing fixed screen tearing on my craptop
[02:54] <dax> can't argue with results
[02:54] <BENTLERyB> Interesting.
[02:55] <BENTLERyB> I don't have a dedicated GPU, just integrated Intel graphics, so I wasn't sure if that would put more strain on my CPU.
[02:57] <Guest52524> hello world!
[02:57] <Immatix> Seems to have worked
[02:57] <Guest52524> got some problems after the upgrade from 15 to 16 today... please help
[02:57] <Guest52524> for instance amule does not start
[02:58] <Guest52524> and i have no chance to use synaptic as previously
[02:58] <Guest52524> amule error: assert "m_fd != INVALID_SOCKET" failed in OnReadWaiting(): invalid socket ready for reading?
[02:59] <Guest52524> i cannot work any longer, any page to see the problems and the solutions for them?
[03:12] <AciD`> 16.04 : 3rd crash in 3 days. Everytime with the same xorg error : https://paste.kde.org/pceqyk5lg Is there anybody experiencing the same problem?
[03:13] <atlasthe> hello
[03:14] <atlasthe> hello?
[03:14] <TheMarius> hi
[03:14] <atlasthe> hii
[03:14] <TheMarius> wazzapppppp
[03:14] <atlasthe> nutin
[03:14] <atlasthe> the chat just seems dead
[03:14] <TheMarius> im not dead atleast not yet
[03:15] <TheMarius> im sitting here tinkering with my new ubuntu mate 16.04
[03:16] <atlasthe> im new to linux, but i know some sudo commands in the termina
[03:16] <atlasthe> like sudo apt
[03:16] <atlasthe> sudo get
[03:16] <TheMarius> good boy... thats a start
[03:16] <TheMarius> hopefully we wont have to do much of that though
[03:16] <TheMarius> i just want a system that runs problem free
[03:17] <TheMarius> without sudoing and autoremoving too much
[03:17] <TheMarius> ubuntu mate is a good shot at it
[03:17] <TheMarius> theres some bugs though
[03:17] <TheMarius> not severe stuff
[03:17] <TheMarius> best system ive installed for a long time... beats windows
[03:17] <effectnet> nice
[03:18] <TheMarius> opensuse was sweet though.. im not sure yet if this beats it when its set up.. this was easier to set up though
[03:19] <tgm4883> Is there a question in there? This chat is for support questions
[03:19] <TheMarius> if they just manage to kick out the bugs, im in love
[03:19] <TheMarius> idk.. im just here hanging out
[03:19] <wafflejock> TheMarius, for non support issues use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:19] <TheMarius> ok
[03:20] <L0uk3> Has anyone been able to get 16:9 aspect ratios with 16.04 and VMware Fusion? Installed VM-Tools --> no 16:9 aspect ratios like in Trusty.
[03:28] <B0g4r7_> where ubuntu is the guest and os x is the host?  idk, maybe ask vmware inc about that one.
[03:29] <B0g4r7_> I think I'm going with virtualbox in this host instead of installing vmware.
[03:29] <brianx> maybe a different virtual video card.
[03:36] <L0uk3> thanks
[03:37] <L0uk3> Yes correct. OS X is the host and ubuntu is the guest.
[03:42] <wasutton3> so I'm on the hunt for a patch file that was made to a package sometime in 2010. where would I go looking for it?
[03:42] <wasutton3> its econvert-typo.diff applied to the package exact-image
[03:48] <johnzorn> So what is the difference between the netinstall and the minimal install isos?
[03:50] <johnzorn> Is it correct to say that I should download the net install if I want full control over what I want installed?
[03:51] <wasutton3> johnzorn, no, the net installs download the needed install files off the internet while installing (i.e. the latest versions)
[03:51] <wasutton3> the minimal install contains just enough to get you online to the point where you can apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <johnzorn> wasutton3: ok so net install installs the same full ubuntu then? Is there a minimal install somewhere for 16.04? I only see 15.10
[03:54] <wasutton3> johnzorn, no idea. im hunting for old commits
[03:55] <B0g4r7_> Is there a project underway to make a better ubuntu installer?
[03:56] <B0g4r7_> The existing one(s) leave a lot to be desired IMO.
[03:57] <B0g4r7_> When I worked in software dev, "installers" was a project that perpetually got handed off to the new guy whenever we got one.
[03:57] <wolfy> hi all
[03:58] <Guest49260> hi all
[03:59] <Inocuous> hello Guest49260
[04:00] <B0g4r7_> until eventually a whole "tools team" got spun up to build and maintain a "continuous integration" system to automatically build installers straight from the repos.
[04:01] <Jordan_U> B0g4r7_: Please move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:01] <B0g4r7_> Righty-o.  My bad.
[04:04] <Guest52524> hello world again, have problems with lots of applications after upgrade, please help
[04:04] <Guest52524> what can i do with the ownership of _apt_ ? Error mess: couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. -
[04:05] <Guest52524> This happens from amule, that was working lots of years in advance
[04:08] <Guest52524> ok, world, i'll take care myself, in some case there will be some stable distro in 3 hours here
[04:10] <Guest52524> Is this a normal upgrade when i get inside synaptic:W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/cache/apt/archives/partial/grep_2.25-1~16.04.1_i386.deb' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[04:10] <Guest52524> (the above was run as superuser...)
[04:16] <simonsh> Hello. I just installed lxc on Ubuntu 16.04 via apt-get install lxc.  When I try my very first lxc-create, I get this error:
[04:16] <simonsh> $ lxc-create -t download -n u14.10 -- --dist ubuntu --release trusty --arch amd64 \n Setting up the GPG keyring
[04:16] <simonsh> Downloading the image index
[04:16] <simonsh> ERROR: Failed to download http://images.linuxcontainers.org//meta/1.0/index-system
[04:16] <simonsh> lxc-create: lxccontainer.c: create_run_template: 1290 container creation template for u14.10 failed \n lxc-create: lxc_create.c: main: 316 Error creating container u14.10  \n
[04:18] <guto> quit
[04:18] <guto> quit
[04:19] <reisio> simonsh: could ask #lxcontainers
[04:24] <Guest52524> ok, problem was somehow solved, after: root@mate:/var/cache/apt/archives# chmod og+rw partial/
[04:24] <simonsh> reisio Thanks
[04:27] <juanonymous> how do i record screen on ubuntu?
[04:27] <dearn> Hey guys. After update to 16.04, my Ubuntu started to change from X11 to tty when I press alt+left arrow (instead of doing previous page in web browser) how to turn it off?
[04:28] <dearn> juanonymous: recordmydesktop + install gui, qt- or gtk-recordmydesktop
[04:28] <juanonymous> what if i don't install gui or qt or gtk-recordmydesktop
[04:31] <reisio> juanonymous: the best way is with ffmpeg, dunno if there's a good frontend
[04:37] <b0nn> hi all, I'm having some trouble with my eclipse; I'm on Ubuntu, eclipse is Luna, and I want to upgrade. I have read the wiki FAQ for upgrading but there's a minor catch that I need help with - there's no menu available, no window menuitem to click, no .. any of them. Has anyone an idea how to restore them (or upgrade without clicking Window > Preferences.. etc
[04:38] <b0nn> I think the problem is Ubuntu/Unity
[04:39] <reisio> ever notice how Java™ software is always awful and hard to use?
[04:39] <reisio> that isn't a coincidence
[04:39] <b0nn> nope, noticed that all software is crapTM
[04:39] <reisio> :D
[04:39] <reisio> what's the version of "luna", again?
[04:40] <b0nn> FTR it's only eclipse on my laptop that is experincing the issue, on my desktop it's fine
[04:40] <b0nn> luna is about 2 versions back, I downloaded mars.2 and am experiencing the same issue
[04:40] <katebe> i
[04:40] <b0nn> you know, in the black bar at the top of the window, that menu is missing
[04:41] <xangua> reisio: 12.04?
[04:41] <xangua> Oh lol never mind
[04:41] <wafflejock> b0nn, if you just hit alt in there does it select anything or Alt+W typically that's the window menu shortcut
[04:42] <b0nn> yeah, I've found Alt-W but it doesn't give me all the options I am looking for
[04:43] <wafflejock> b0nn, can arrow left or right to navigate the menus if one opens usually, haven't seen that problem though
[04:44] <b0nn> wafflejock: awesome sauce, that gives me access to the menus
[04:44] <b0nn> thanks :)
[04:44] <b0nn> (although it doesn't un hide them)
[04:46] <reisio> luna is just a useless codename
[04:47] <reisio> codenames being hilarious pranks developers play on... themselves
[04:47] <reisio> to help them be more confused
[04:47] <reisio> actual versions are usually made up of numbers, decimal points, occasionally a letter or two
[04:49] <justsomeguy> Huh, first IRC channel I've been on that has a ToS agreement.
[04:56] <baizon> justsomeguy: happens :)
[04:59] <reisio> and oh how it will stand up in court! :p
[05:00]  * justsomeguy imagines going to court for all the dumb stuff he's said on the internet and has a mental breakdown.
[05:01] <Guest19777> hello
[05:01] <Guest19777> I have some quit questions about fail2ban
[05:01] <Guest19777> best practices and such
[05:02] <reisio> #fail2ban, also
[05:04] <Guest19777> @reisio thank you!
[05:04] <Guest19777> just found that, appears to be quiet there
[05:05] <reisio> Guest19777: it's 1am saturday night for most useful people on freenode
[05:06] <reisio> peak quietness will be in about 3 hours, IIRC, and then it'll get louder
[05:06] <Guest19777> hahah
[05:06] <reisio> that is, 1am after saturday's night (aka sunday morning, real, real early)
[05:07] <Guest19777> makes sense.
[05:07] <Guest19777> I am just having aws cost spike and I want to address it this weekend.
[05:07] <Guest19777> its on an ubuntu headless ec2 instance
[05:08] <reisio> yeah, you definitely want fail2ban or something like it setup for a server
[05:09] <reisio> would be topical in ##linux and a number of other places, too
[05:09] <reisio> #ubuntu-server, yadda yadda
[05:09] <Guest19777> Yea I am browsing through freenode channel lists
[05:09] <Guest19777> I have only used IRC very briefly
[05:10] <Guest19777> I was on Reddit, but everyone there has too many sub rules.
[05:10] <reisio> /msg alis list *fail*ban* would be the fast way
[05:10] <reisio> reddit is, yeah, poorly implemented
[05:10] <reisio> like most things :p
[05:11] <Guest19777> alias list of apache logs?
[05:13] <reisio> talkin' 'bout /msg alis?
[05:13] <reisio> it's a freenode service/bot
[05:14] <reisio> faster way to find channels
[05:14] <reisio> although some channels inexplicably have +s, and you have to /join them to be sure they exist or not
[05:14] <reisio> those channels are usually run by true idiots, though, so :p
[05:15] <imthenachoman> hey guys, having a strange issue. i have a folder that has g+s set and is owned by group1. user1, user2 and user 3 are all in group1. all three can create files in the folder. when user1 and user2 create a file it has g+rw set. when user3 does it only has g+r. why would this be?
[05:15] <wafflejock> Guest19777, you might want to check out ntop to see where all the traffic is going if your cost is coming from bandwidth usage
[05:16] <Guest19777> ok sounds good, is that in AWS Billing or in the instance?
[05:17] <rahuldev> Hi, How to install lib32stdc++6, whever I trying giving me Package 'lib32stdc++6" has no installation candidate.
[05:17] <rahuldev> ?
[05:17] <reisio> rahuldev: ask apt-file
[05:18] <reisio> from glib or gcc or something, isn't it?
[05:18]  * reisio doesn't recall
[05:18] <platz> very odd error message in my log https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChWLpZqU0AAGeu5.jpg:large
[05:18] <rahuldev> reisio, installing android studio.
[05:19] <reisio> rahuldev: uhuh...
[05:19] <vbvntv> Hi, I'm looking to update from Trusty to Xenial. But update-manager seems to think it's a development release. Hasn't it been released already?
[05:19] <wafflejock> Guest19777, ntop just runs a web server that has some pages that show up when it's running and it collects traffic info over time to show charts and break down some details on the protocols and source/destinations https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ntop    https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-configure-ntop/
[05:20] <Inocuous> vbvntv, it will be officially released for LTS to LTS upgrade in July
[05:20] <Guest19777> @wafflejock thank you!! I was using webmin, but it was very limited in its ability to visually show me issues.
[05:20] <wafflejock> Guest19777, you'd have to be sshed into the instance and install/configure it on there I don't think there's anything in the AWS console to get details
[05:20] <Guest19777> I ended up just greping the logs for invalid attempts
[05:20] <vbvntv> Inocuous, thanks, any link on that?
[05:23] <wafflejock> Guest19777, no problem, I don't like to keep that running all the time just cause extra services and resource usage but good to see what's going on, there's etherape as well but that's GUI based so not so good for remote server installs
[05:23] <rahuldev> http://pastebin.com/64dUDhT8
[05:23] <rahuldev> reisio, http://pastebin.com/64dUDhT8 any idea?
[05:24] <Guest19777> yea I am bound to the SSH or web console systems cause its an EC2
[05:24] <Guest19777> thanks for your help! @wafflejock
[05:24] <wafflejock> Guest19777, sure thing
[05:25] <rahuldev> anyone please help me installing lib32stdc++6, I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/64dUDhT8
[05:25] <reisio> rahuldev: as I said, use apt-file search libstdc++
[05:30] <bobby_> yeah baby
[05:31] <reisio> yup
[05:31] <Guest19777> @rahuldev I am not getting that error. check out my pastebin http://pastebin.com/wigRPUUh
[05:32] <shekhar> hey guys I would like to install Ubuntu on my laptop, so I jus downloaded the ISO file on to my USB , so what could be the next steps to make it bootable
[05:32] <shekhar> currently I am on a windows 10 environment
[05:32] <baizon> shekhar: create a bootable usb stick with http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[05:32] <rahuldev> Guest19777, ok, thanks, maybe my android studio is running, that's why I'm getting, I'll restart my pc.
[05:33] <baizon> shekhar: then boot from the usb and install
[05:33] <Guest19777> @rahuldev sure no problem also that was on 16.04 in case you are on an older version.
[05:35] <shekhar> baizon:  do i need to install the software or could we make usb stick on site
[05:36] <baizon> shekhar: you can download the portable version and run the program
[05:36] <Guest19777> Disable UEFI in the bios, use Rufus to put the iso into mountable form onto the usb then boot from USB.
[05:36] <Guest19777> @baizn
[05:37]  * mking 
[05:38] <mking> say something
[05:39] <mexicutioner> hello
[05:39] <mking> hi
[05:39] <mexicutioner> what are you doing
[05:39] <mking> nothing
[05:39] <mexicutioner> k
[05:40] <mexicutioner> sooooo
[05:41] <snfgf> Is there an option for hexdump to begin dumping at byte N?
[05:41] <mexicutioner> IDK
[05:41] <dax> snfgf: -s
[05:42] <mexicutioner> IM PLAYING MONSTER LEGENDS
[05:42] <mexicutioner> sory i had caps lock on
[05:42] <snfgf> dax: Thanks. I did scan the man page but was blind to it sitting right there.
[05:42] <elky> mexicutioner: this is a tech support channel, what's your tech support question?
[05:43] <Inocuous> I activated the workspace function with the standard number of windows. With the screen showing all four windows, when I move apps from one window to the other, occasionally the OS will freeze and need to be rebooted. Is it not intended to allow moving apps from one window to the other?
[05:44] <mexicutioner> does any one have steam
[05:44] <havoc_hive> Inocuous: memory issue?
[05:44] <Inocuous> no. it's not a memory problem.
[05:45] <rush8733> hello world
[05:45] <mexicutioner> hi
[05:45] <elky> mexicutioner: lots of people have steam. Do you have a support question about Ubuntu?
[05:45] <rush8733> I am rebirthed from Guest19777 to my real username
[05:45] <mexicutioner> no
[05:45] <Inocuous> What I'm asking is, is this a misuse of the workspace? Or could it be one of the apps that don't like being moved that would cause it to freeze?
[05:46] <rush8733> ##steam @mexicutioner
[05:47] <wafflejock> Inocuous, are you using Unity? have you checked out dmesg or /var/log/syslog to see if there's anything in there when this happens?
[05:48] <wafflejock> Inocuous, I know this typically works in Gnome and pretty sure it should work in Unity but dunno what you're running into
[05:48] <Inocuous> I'm using 16.04 out of the box
[05:49] <elky> mexicutioner: please find somewhere else for chatting then.
[05:50] <mexicutioner> why
[05:50] <wafflejock> Inocuous, can check journalctl or dmesg to see what's failing possibly, when it happens can you get to a tty using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see if there are errors?
[05:50] <XxNemoxX> Ubuntu what if i want it but its WIndows 10
[05:51] <clear`> then dual boot
[05:51] <Inocuous> wafflejock, I'll give it a try.
[05:51] <Inocuous> thanks.
[05:52] <XxNemoxX> Once i did that and my computer crashed then turned off as now it wont work
[05:53] <mexicutioner> dj khaled
[05:53] <XxNemoxX> d
[05:53] <XxNemoxX> d
[05:53] <XxNemoxX> d
[05:53] <XxNemoxX> d
[05:53] <XxNemoxX> d
[05:54] <mexicutioner> d
[05:54] <mexicutioner> j
[05:54] <dax> XxNemoxX: don't do that.
[05:54] <mexicutioner> d:
[05:54] <dax> mexicutioner: This is not a chat channel. This is a support channel. If you are not asking or answering a support question, hush.
[05:57] <XxNemoxX>  #Channel Debian
[05:58] <Dannn> !ops
[05:58] <dax> yes, we're already watching
[05:58] <viju> Where should I copy my java directory - /usr/local?
[06:00] <hicoleri> Is there any kind of "mail daemon" application which fetches main in the background and notifies me when I get mail?
[06:00]  * phunyguy grumbles
[06:02] <wafflejock> hicoleri, think you just want a mail client really, I don't think the command line mail clients will tie into desktop notifications
[06:03] <wafflejock> hicoleri, thunderbird does desktop notifications but I imagine Evolution or other clients would do it as well
[06:04] <hicoleri> wafflejock:okay
[06:04] <viju> Where should I copy my java directory - /usr/local or/usr/local/lib?
[06:05] <justsomeguy> Hi, I want to configure my system in such a way that all regular users aren't able to cd into directories above their home folder, or see the contents either. Is such a thing possible?
[06:10] <drama> justsomeguy, https://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/09/daily-ubuntu-tipsprevent-users-browsing-folders/
[06:19] <katebe> mariadb shows crashed even tho the process is running ports open and am able to login to the dbms server using mysql client
[06:19] <katebe> lxc container*
[06:23] <wafflejock> katebe, can run, sudo netstat -tulpn, will show what processes are bound to what ports
[06:25] <wafflejock> katebe, if you have the ProcessID (PID) you can run, sudo file /proc/PIDHERE/exe, to see what actual process is bound to a given port
[06:25] <katebe> http://termbin.com/pxld
[06:26] <wafflejock> hrm well that's weird not sure what it means if the program/PID is a -
[06:27] <katebe> http://termbin.com/32q3
[06:27] <katebe> ps aux | grep 3306 | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:27] <katebe> thats the response
[06:28] <katebe> and when i check the status it shows crushed
[06:28] <katebe> tho
[06:28] <katebe> am able to login
[06:28] <wafflejock> katebe, could have been manually started?
[06:28] <hicoleri> All sounds stop after I run zynaddsubfx, and zynaddsubfx doesn't seem to give any output either. What do I do? log:http://paste.ubuntu.com/16164282/
[06:29] <hicoleri> It seems that I have to start the jack server before I can do anything with it. How do I do that?
[06:30] <katebe> after installation mysql didnt run automatically
[06:30] <katebe> but i started it manually and then configured it to start on boot
[06:30] <katebe> wafflejock:
[06:30] <wafflejock> hicoleri, you run jackd, I've used qjackctl for starting stopping and configuring jack
[06:30] <wafflejock> katebe, how'd you configure it to start on boot?
[06:31] <katebe> am running lxc
[06:31] <wafflejock> katebe, typically that's handled by the startup scripts that come with the package, sorry unfamiliar with lxc
[06:31] <jo__> ji
[06:31] <katebe> wafflejock: oh ok thanks for trying
[06:31] <katebe> to help
[06:32] <cfhowlett> hicoleri, 1.  #opensourcemusicians would know more  2. #ubuntustudio too 3.  restate for those who came late to this thread?
[06:32] <hicoleri> okay
[06:32] <wafflejock> hicoleri, http://askubuntu.com/questions/572120/how-to-use-jack-and-pulseaudio-alsa-at-the-same-time-on-the-same-audio-device <-- this may help too without it you typically are running either jack or pulse but not both
[06:32] <hicoleri> okay
[06:37] <white_magic> hi, is someone here knowledgeable about Samba?
[06:43] <Ben64> white_magic: ask your question to find out
[06:48] <v4rp1ng> white_magic, yes what is your question
[06:52] <white_magic> hey guys, just wondering how can i make Samba NOT share my home directory
[06:53] <white_magic> if i commented out the default [homes] section, it simply doesn't let me log in
[06:53] <kalexyco> bonjour
[06:56] <v4rp1ng> white_magic, if you commet out [homes] it will deactivate this section. what do you want exactly? you want to share your home but only with password prompt?
[06:57] <white_magic> v4rp1ng: what i really want to do is share an external usb drive. what happens, though, is that the drive is automatically mounted at /media/importantuser/ExtHdd
[06:57] <white_magic> how can I make 'testshareuser' access /media/importantuser/ExtHdd via samba?
[06:57] <white_magic> if /media/importantuser/ExtHdd is owned by 'importantuser'?
[06:59] <prestone> Hi all
[06:59] <andgra> Err http://se.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg Connection failed [IP: 130.239.18.165 80]
[06:59] <andgra> I get that error when I use apt-get update
[06:59] <prestone> How check if my system is 32 or 64 bits ?
[07:00] <white_magic> Ben64: maybe you have some thoughts?
[07:01] <v4rp1ng> if you want to access /media/importantuser/ExtHdd by testshareuser you have to rewrite the permissions or put testshareuser & importantuser in a group and change the group permissions
[07:01] <v4rp1ng> white_magic
[07:01] <thewisenerd> white_magic, sftp?
[07:02] <white_magic> i wanna use SMB
[07:02] <Ben64> white_magic: you should mount the drive elsewhere
[07:02] <thewisenerd> kthen.
[07:02] <white_magic> well, its mounted automatically by my OS (raspbian debian)...
[07:02] <white_magic> should i try to override that behavior?
[07:03] <v4rp1ng> you can override that with an entry in /etc/fstab
[07:04] <white_magic> what would you suggest? i want to be able to access that drive via both 'importantuser' and 'testshareuser'
[07:04] <white_magic> maybe i can set read permissions to 'testshareuser' for that drive/mounted dir
[07:05] <v4rp1ng> white_magic: so you will have to create a group or put both users into a group and change the group permissions of the drive
[07:05] <Secret-Fire> d
[07:06] <white_magic> v4rp1ng: ill try that, thanks
[07:09] <v4rp1ng> white_magic: $ groupadd extHDacc, $ usermod -aG extHDacc importantuser, $ usermod -aG extHDacc testshareuser, $ chown -R importantuser:extHDacc /media/....
[07:09] <jotalopez> hola
[07:10] <geirha> and chmod g+s on all directories
[07:13] <exussum> Hi all, I have an issue when booting netowkr manager doesnt reconise the USB wifi inserted. It either needs network manager restarting or unplugging and putting back in again
[07:13] <exussum> How can I automatically restart it at the end of the start up scripts
[07:14] <uxfi> yo
[07:14] <uxfi> hows all
[07:33] <Braden`> Hello!
[07:34] <Braden`> I am trying to start gnome-session-flashback, and whenever I start gdm3, I get a black screen with an underscore in the upper left that flashes the screen a bunch of times, but gdm3 never actually starts up.  What should I look for to fix my problem?
[07:38] <jonatan> Braden: waht gpu drivers are you using
[07:40] <Guido1> I want to acces a folder on an windows PC, but for some reason it is not working.
[07:46] <Braden`> virtualbox-guest-x11 I believe
[07:52] <Guido1> if i try to print i get the message "nable to connect to CIFS host"
[07:53] <linuxlove> hello my configuration for apache is <VirtualHost *:80>
[07:53] <linuxlove>         
[07:53] <linuxlove>         ServerName www.dahliaco.com
[07:53] <linuxlove>         DocumentRoot /var/www/html
[07:54] <linuxlove> i just see that www.dahliaco.com works for me and i dont see same result for dahliaco.com
[07:54] <linuxlove> what is problem?
[08:08] <akik> linuxlove: www.dahliaco.com and dahliaco.com are two different things
[08:08] <akik> linuxlove: you need to create a virtualhost definition for dahliaco.com too
[08:09] <akik> and have the dns server records for both
[08:10] <viju> I have just installed eclipse and whenever I try to create a project etc it sits there doing something in the background. I thought it's a permission issue something so I migrated it from /opt to home directory. Even now it's same. How can I know what's happening in the background to find the real cause?
[08:11] <viju> I tried sys.log but nothing it says about eclipse
[08:11] <baizon> viju: eclipse isnt writing into syslog
[08:11] <akik> viju: did you try running eclipse from the terminal?
[08:12] <baizon> viju: https://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[08:12] <viju> I tried both. Earlier, I made a symlink to desktop and ran it. Then I tried running directly from the directory. Still the same.
[08:13] <Braden`> Is there a way to completely reinstall xwindows using gnome-session-flashback and gdm?  I need to purge the settings that are stored
[08:13] <baizon> viju: have you tried removing the configuration?
[08:14] <viju> Not yet. I wanted to investigate by looking at the logs.
[08:14] <baizon> Braden`: https://www.computersnyou.com/4945/re-install-xorg-xserver-completely-ubuntu/
[08:16] <Braden`> baizon:  Thank you
[08:18] <viju> baizon: Do you want me to remove configuration?
[08:18] <viju> I didn't find anything wrong in the metadata/log
[08:19] <baizon> viju: run eclipse from terminal then? and check for errors?
[08:19] <viju> Ok
[08:20] <katebe> have a crack at my question http://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/137092/mariadb-shows-crashed-and-pid-program-name-shows
[08:22] <baizon> katebe: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/what-to-do-if-mariadb-doesnt-start/
[08:24] <Village> Hello,
[08:25] <Village> what is [kworker/u3:2] process?
[08:25] <Village> can i save kill it?
[08:25] <baizon> Village: https://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[08:25] <Village> i try read it but i don't understand or i can save kill this process?
[08:26] <rahuldev> hi, Anyone pls help, Whenever try to install lib32stdc++6, or anyother lib file I get error: package has not installation candidate.
[08:26] <rahuldev> I also tried to install apt-file libraries still getting this error... anyone pls help...
[08:26] <baizon> rahuldev: https://askubuntu.com/questions/14685/what-does-package-package-has-no-installation-candidate-mean
[08:27] <rahuldev> thanks baizon
[08:30] <rahuldev> baizon, I updated but still getting same erorr, and when Here someone tried to install lib32stdc++6, it installed smoothly.
[08:30] <baizon> rahuldev: you screwed up your apt source, thats the reason
[08:31] <rahuldev> baizon, is there way to reset it?
[08:32] <katebe> baizon: thanks lemme check it out
[08:32] <alkisg> There's no lib32stdc++6 in the ubuntu repositories
[08:32] <alkisg> Misspelled?
[08:32] <rahuldev> Not misspelled..
[08:33] <rahuldev> Here Guest19777> @rahuldev I am not getting that error. check out my pastebin http://pastebin.com/wigRPUUh
[08:33] <rahuldev> * reisio has quit (Quit: Why iiiiissss his head so big!)
[08:33] <baizon> alkisg: pls no misinformation http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lib32stdc%2B%2B6
[08:33] <rahuldev> installed it...
[08:33] <alkisg> $ LANG=en apt-cache policy lib32stdc++6
[08:33] <alkisg> N: Unable to locate package lib32stdc++6
[08:33] <rahuldev> alkisg, guest19777 installed
[08:34] <baizon> alkisg: well i got it
[08:35] <baizon> rahuldev: what are your sourced?
[08:35] <baizon> *sources
[08:35] <alkisg> Ah, it's not available for armhf, sorry
[08:35] <__raven> hi
[08:36] <rahuldev> baizon, I don't know much about internal ubuntu... Sourced means?
[08:36] <rahuldev> When I try to install From Package management I got error::: This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[08:37] <baizon> rahuldev: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/configuration.html
[08:37] <baizon> rahuldev: and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[08:38] <tim241> hi I installed Ubuntu for 2 min now
[08:38] <tim241> I came from linux mint
[08:38] <baizon> tim241: good job
[08:38] <tim241> what is the first thing I would do?
[08:39] <baizon> tim241: relax and enjoy
[08:40] <tim241> sorry did something stupid xD
[08:40] <tim241> what should I do in Ubuntu?
[08:40] <baizon> tim241: yeah, you quit
 tim241: relax and enjoy
[08:40] <tim241> sorry
[08:40] <tim241> ok
[08:40] <baizon> that was my answer ;)
[08:40] <tim241> ok xD
[08:41] <Village> can i save kill [kworker/u3:2] process?
[08:41] <tim241> I opened hexchat from the terminal and I closed the terminal so it closed Hexchat
[08:41] <ducasse> Village: no, read the url you got earlier
[08:41] <baizon> Village: i did answer to this question
[08:41] <Village> I don't understand by url, i was find this url before..
[08:41] <Village> :/
[08:42] <chroma__> Hi, My hard disk is brand new but its constantly at 100% disk usage
[08:43] <chroma__> any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[08:43] <tim241> reinstall Ubuntu
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[08:43] <baizon> chroma__: check, which process is using it
[08:43] <chroma__> tim241, but i just installed it ...
[08:43] <chroma__> gues I have to install it again
[08:43] <tim241> ow that is sad xD
[08:43] <chroma__> thanks
[08:44] <tim241> just try if it does not work
[08:44] <chroma__> eventually it will work if i keep installing it right?
[08:44] <baizon> chroma__: i recommend iotop
[08:44] <tim241> no
[08:44] <wafflejock> yeah iotop
[08:44] <tim241> ow sorry
[08:44] <EriC^^> chroma__: why do you say it's being used 100%?
[08:44] <EriC^^> chroma__: and no reinstalling won't do anything most likely
[08:44] <ducasse> chroma__: pastebin the output of df
[08:44] <snfgf> So MBR is stored in the first sector of a bootable device; does anything change if the MBR is on a device with a 1, 2 or 4K sector size? Everything I read about MBR refers to 512 bytes as being the sector size.
[08:44] <rahuldev> baizon thanks for helpful link...
[08:45] <rahuldev> baizon my source: http://pastebin.com/AR3ZEgwH
[08:45] <chroma__> jbd2 is taking all the disk io
[08:46] <baizon> chroma__: now you know
[08:46] <tim241> hello
[08:46] <baizon> rahuldev: try switching to a different server, not from in
[08:46] <chroma__> so kill jbd2?
[08:46] <chroma__> just run a script to constantly kill jbd2?
[08:46] <EriC^^> what's jbd2?
[08:47] <baizon> chroma__: which kernel?
[08:47] <chroma__> the process that is taking my io
[08:47] <chroma__> i installed the lastest version of ubuntu
[08:47] <chroma__> 16.04
[08:47] <chroma__> and full updated it
[08:47] <rahuldev> baizon different server means How can I do that?
[08:47] <EriC^^> jbd2 ?
[08:47] <chroma__> EriC^^, yes jbd2 and kworker are taking my io
[08:48] <EriC^^> chroma__: type locate jbd2
[08:48] <chroma__> /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-21/include/trace/events/jbd2.h
[08:48] <chroma__> /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-21-generic/include/config/jbd2.h
[08:48] <baizon> rahuldev: https://askubuntu.com/questions/319433/making-mirror-mirrors-ubuntu-com-highly-available
[08:48] <EriC^^> chroma__: type ps aux | sort -k 2 | tail | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:49] <rahuldev> baizon got it, will you suggest me some good one?
[08:50] <baizon> chroma__: vm?
[08:50] <chroma__> EriC^^, it only happens ocassionally. I can't predict when it will take all the io
[08:50] <chroma__> EriC^^, it just spikes suddenly
[08:50] <chroma__> even while not doing anything intensive
[08:50] <baizon> rahuldev: let ubuntu pick the best one
[08:50] <lundmar> anyone know if ubuntu will push official vulkan graphics driver support into 16.04 or will that be a 16.10 thing?
[08:50] <tim241> idk
[08:50] <chroma__> just spiked again for no reason then went away
[08:51] <chroma__> but sometimes it stops me from even web browsing
[08:51] <baizon> lundmar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:51] <chroma__> its a native install brand new disk brand new dvd
[08:52] <EriC^^> does it show anything in ps aux
[08:52] <rahuldev> thanks baizon then I need to update it?
[08:52] <EriC^^> kworker taking up cpu sometimes means you need to disable an interrupt
[08:52] <chroma__> EriC^^, it will be hard to capture because it only spikes occasionally
[08:52] <baizon> rahuldev: yes
[08:52] <rahuldev> thanks
[08:53] <chroma__> EriC^^, cpu almost always at 0
[08:53] <EriC^^> chroma__: try grep . -r /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/
[08:53] <topan> if i'm upgrade my ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04, is my software/app that i've installed before will deleted?
[08:53] <lundmar> baizon: so you are saying a point release eg. 16.04.2 might get vulkan support?
[08:54] <chroma__> EriC^^, what am i looking for
[08:54] <katebe> clear
[08:54] <cfhowlett> topan, depends on your installation method.  recommendation: wait for a few more months until 16.04.1 comes out and direct upgrade.
[08:55] <EriC^^> chroma__: one with a very high number
[08:55] <rahuldev> baizon, I did it, but still getting same error: has not installation candidate.
[08:56] <chroma__> EriC^^, is 1244 high enough
[08:56] <rahuldev> sudo apt-get install lib32stdc++6 baizon I typed this
[08:56] <EriC^^> chroma__: how big is your disk?
[08:56] <EriC^^> chroma__: no
[08:56] <chroma__> 1 terabyte
[08:56] <EriC^^> ok give it a little time
[08:57] <EriC^^> chroma__: do you have apache installed?
[08:57] <chroma__> EriC^^, up until now no
[08:57] <chroma__> i literally just installed it but i've been having this issue for days
[08:57] <chroma__> so its definitely not apache's fault
[08:59] <chroma__> EriC^^, google says its related to journaling
[08:59] <EriC^^> chroma__: it might fix itself in a couple days
[08:59] <EriC^^> chroma__: i found lots of stuff on google
[08:59] <chroma__> EriC^^, its already been a couple days and it still happens. i guess i can wait a couple days more
[09:00] <chroma__> EriC^^, I really hope its not a faulty disk since I just bought it
[09:01] <rahuldev> baizon, thanks It's installed when Canonical-supported free and open source, selected, the link you given there is checked where in mine is uncheked.
[09:03] <__raven> hi
[09:03] <alkisg> hi
[09:05] <__raven> i am looking for a tool which is able of dumping multiple audio and video streams (without transcoding!) the most easiest way
[09:10] <Raven> Hello Everyone
[09:12] <Guest87408> I have a question if anyone can help me.
[09:12] <Peroalane> Hi
[09:13] <Peroalane> My computer's fan suddenly gets loud and then reverts to normal all the time, but only in Ubuntu,
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest87408,
[09:13] <Peroalane> Any ideas
[09:13] <Guest87408> I did google but did not get a definitive answer. Can I use Openbox as the windows manager in kubuntu and ubuntu 16.04?
[09:14] <Guest87408> Thank you
[09:14] <ducasse> Guest87408: you can use whatever wm you want, yes.
[09:15] <Guest87408> KDE/Openbox Hybrid setup, possible?
[09:15] <ducasse> Guest87408: should be, but I'm not familiar with KDE.
[09:16] <Guest87408> Thats what Im unsure of, tried it in 15.10 and it would not work due to changes in KDE 5
[09:16] <tim241> alm,ark hallo jij bent nl net als mij xD
[09:16] <tim241> almark ^^ LOL
[09:16] <alex99> hi
[09:17] <Guest87408> Thank You ducasse
[09:17] <ducasse> Guest87408: it's generally a good idea to stay with the wm that comes with the DE, but try 'openbox --replace'
[09:18] <Guest87408> Ok I will do that, the fixtures of KDE with the speed of openbox suits my older hardware
[09:19] <Guest87408> Well, used to anyway.... sigh
[09:19] <ducasse> Guest87408: yes, but you will still be getting a lot of KDE stuff to drag your system down. Why not try Xfce or LXDE?
[09:20] <Guest87408> Im using Crunchbang at the moment, but want to switch to an Ubuntu based system
[09:20] <alkisg> Have you tried ubuntu-mate?
[09:22] <Guest87408> no I have not alkisg , shall go google that now aswell.
[09:27] <dash_> hello
[09:27] <dash_> drone
[09:27] <Guest87408> Than you so much for your help guys.
[09:28] <dash_> guys heloo
[09:28] <dash_> z
[09:28] <rahuldev> hi is there way or any app, that show me my cpu and memory usage in indication or as Indicator?
[09:28] <dash_> yeah ubuntu mate
[09:29] <trijntje> rahuldev: system monitor applet does that
[09:29] <rahuldev> thanks trijntje
[09:30] <bishops> Anyone using California as a calendar on ubuntu? Why is there still a theme problem with it? Anyway to resolve this?
[09:33] <Nyterax> hey guys, i'm using gnome, is there a way to show the % of used/available cpu/ram in the top bar or anywhere else always visible?
[09:34] <snfgf> I have a bunch of system daemons starting at boot, which I want to stop. What's the best way to do this? Going through rcN.d/ and removing the links?
[09:34] <cfhowlett> Nyterax, I think sensors has that capability
[09:36] <Nyterax> sweet, i'll look into it
[09:39] <ducasse> snfgf: what version of ubuntu?
[09:43] <Lmntrix> gmorning please whats the command to restart your network on ubuntu
[09:44] <SCHAAP137> Lmntrix, which version of Ubuntu?
[09:45] <Lmntrix> SCHAAP137: 14.04LTS
[09:47] <SCHAAP137> Lmntrix, on a remote machine, through SSH?
[09:47] <Lmntrix> owkia cool
[09:48] <SCHAAP137> https://chrisjean.com/restart-the-network-in-ubuntu-from-ssh/
[09:48] <Lmntrix> what commands can i use with wlan0 on ubuntu
[09:48] <Lmntrix> cool thanks man @SCHAAP137
[09:49] <snfgf> ducasse: 14.04
[09:49] <SCHAAP137> did some searching, just restarting the network service can have bad side effects, most people say it's better to just bring the desired interface down && up again
[09:50] <Lmntrix> yeah thanks thats the actual question i had in mind
[09:50] <Lmntrix> how do u bring down or put up the network interface
[09:51] <SCHAAP137> that article i linked, explains it
[09:52] <bhavesh> could anyone explain me why "sudo apt-get update" runs so fast compared to older Ubuntu versions?
[09:52] <bhavesh> it takes only about 5 seconds, while earlier it took about 30 seconds to a minute
[09:52] <bhavesh> what changes did they do?
[09:54] <ducasse> bhavesh: you probably have fewer repos enabled
[09:54] <bhavesh> ducasse: earlier, even on a fresh install, it took about a minute
[09:54] <SCHAAP137> bhavesh, with 16.04 you can also use 'sudo apt update', it will show some colours and progress bars
[09:54] <bhavesh> and the list was quite long, i.e the output which apt-get update gives, ducasse
[09:54] <bhavesh> SCHAAP137: oh, didn't know that
[09:55] <SCHAAP137> i discovered it 2 days ago myself :P
[09:55] <SCHAAP137> all other apt-get operations, look better when done with just apt
[09:55] <bhavesh> SCHAAP137: I just tried it, didn;t get any progress bars
[09:55] <bhavesh> I was just wondering why it is so much faster now
[09:57] <SCHAAP137> hmm, it could also be mirror-related
[09:57] <SCHAAP137> with a fresh system, you just have the regular ubuntu repos, geographically close
[09:58] <wafflejock> bhavesh, yeah could be combo of less repos to hit and things working faster with less people hitting the particular servers that are shipping packages for the new version, just speculating though not sure
[09:59] <snfgf> So, to disable a service I need to use update-rc.d, OR upstart, OR systemd...?
[09:59] <bhavesh> wafflejock: okay
[10:01] <almark> hoi tim241
[10:01] <tme5> i think the lack of 14.04 -> 16.04 update should have been clearer in the xenial notes :P
[10:03] <snfgf> How do I know which of update-rc.d, upstart or systemd to use to disable services?
[10:03] <tme5> see for yourself :P https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader?field.searchtext=16.04
[10:03] <SCHAAP137> snfgf, as i understood, systemd creates template unit files for any update-rc.d or upstart based service
[10:03] <SCHAAP137> systemd uses modules to read them
[10:03] <SCHAAP137> so in the end, you can just control everything from systemd
[10:05] <tme5> also, why the hell are we allowing users to attempt the upgrade, when we KNOW it is not possible??
[10:05] <tme5> did no-one consider this??
[10:06] <cfhowlett> tme5, calm down.
[10:06] <tme5> cfhowlett, i am calm :P simply voicing my concern
[10:07] <SCHAAP137> tme5, the upgrade path for 14.04->16.04 opens when 16.04.1 releases, July 21st
[10:07] <tme5> i am aware of this, but most users are not
[10:07] <tme5> ok that is a lie. i have no idea what proportion.
[10:08] <tme5> but it seems to be mentioned only subtly in the notes. and there are a lot of reports.
[10:10] <hiexpo> bad idea to upgrade without a backup
[10:11] <cfhowlett> hiexpo, don't be silly.  no one would do an upgrade without a backup in place.
[10:11]  * alkisg did :)
[10:11] <SCHAAP137> there is/was a time window in which do-release-upgrade -d would force the upgrade to xenial, but at some point it will (or already has) changed to 16.10 yakkety; not sure when that happens
[10:11] <tme5> i am just surprise that ubuntu still let's people attempt the upgrade
[10:12] <tme5> oh i see
[10:12] <hiexpo> yup
[10:12] <cfhowlett> ubuntu doesn not protect users from self-inflicted silly
[10:12] <alkisg> upgrade doesn't destroy user data even if it fails
[10:12] <alkisg> It's just a matter of fixing sources, a few postinst scripts etc, and then retrying apt dist-upgrade...
[10:12] <hiexpo> yes it does
[10:13] <alkisg> It destroys /home? how?
[10:13] <mDfRg> dont't forget rm -rf / is still available, talking about security
[10:13] <SCHAAP137> i just upgraded it, I couldn't wait, apart from some minor self-inflicted transitional issues, it works fine atm
[10:14] <alkisg> If any postinst script does rm -rf /, it will be there on simple apt upgrades as well, not just on do-release-upgrades
[10:16] <mDfRg> I meant that we're arguing about the system letting users run do-release-upgrade whereas same systme let you run rm -rf /
[10:16] <mDfRg> *system lets
[10:17] <SCHAAP137> you'd still need --no-preserve-root to make it work
[10:17] <SCHAAP137> did it once, before reinstalling, just to see what would happen
[10:17] <littlebit> hi people, i have ubuntu 16.04 and wanted to install gitlab, yet I get this error message during the installation. http://dpaste.com/32E3Q3K can someone help??
[10:17] <EriC^^> the pc slowly disintegrates
[10:18] <mDfRg> SCHAAP137: and what happened?
[10:18] <alkisg> littlebit, do you have nginx installed and disabled?
[10:19] <SCHAAP137> mDfRg, the OS just crumbled down, disintegrated
[10:20] <mDfRg> SCHAAP137: did you were able to use the prompt? some of the system persisted in RAM, didn;t it?
[10:21] <littlebit> alkisg: i tried to uninstall nginx with apt-get remove but that didn't change anything
[10:22] <alkisg> littlebit, try apt-get purge nginx so as to remove its config files
[10:22] <alkisg> It's possible that gitlab's postinst script gets confused by them
[10:22] <SCHAAP137> mDfRg, to some extent, but it doesn't last very long
[10:22] <SCHAAP137> it's fun to try though, in a virtual machine
[10:22] <killer> hey , anyone running ubuntu on mac air 2015
[10:23] <mDfRg> yeah, maybe gonna do that in spare time. Did you have additional prompt for the command?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> killer, avoid "... anyone ..." questions.  YOUR problems with YOUR specifications might get answers
[10:24] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: mDfRg everything already running should continue fine, but *any* additional files needing to be read will cause failures. Files already open remain even if they are unlinked (deleted) - they're only removed from the file-system when closed and not referenced by any process.
[10:25] <SCHAAP137> mDfRg, that would be something like: sudo rm -rfv --no-preserve-root /﻿
[10:25] <littlebit> alkisg: I even purged gitlab and went to reinstall gitlab, yet I get this http://dpaste.com/0FF19ZV
[10:25] <TJ-> mDfRg: you can test it in a chroot too
[10:26] <mDfRg> so simple sudo rm -rf / won't work I suppose
[10:26] <mDfRg> that's a useful info
[10:26] <EriC^^> mDfRg: sudo rm -rf /* might
[10:27] <geirha> can confirm, * makes all the difference
[10:27] <TJ-> mDfRg: according to the source-code rm will report "failed to get attributes of /"
[10:27] <Qwertie> Im trying to compile tinywm but I am getting this error. Am I missing a dependency? https://bpaste.net/show/70720c66c5e1
[10:28] <TJ-> giraffe: that makes perfect sense, since the shell expands /* before passing the list of entries to 'rm'
[10:28] <TJ-> geirha: that makes perfect sense, since the shell expands /* before passing the list of entries to 'rm'
[10:28] <alkisg> Qwertie, apt-get build-dep tinywm
[10:28] <mDfRg> I see
[10:29] <Qwertie> alkisg: Same error
[10:29] <alkisg> Qwertie, after you install the packages needed, try "make" etc
[10:29] <alkisg> Not just gcc
[10:30] <SCHAAP137> ah TJ-, that patch you made for network-manager-openvpn a while ago, to add an option for tls-cipher; it doesn't seem to apply anymore in 16.04's version of that package. I altered your patch a bit to make it work again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16167873/
[10:30] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: really? do I need to push a fix to my PPA for 16.04?
[10:30] <SCHAAP137> it uses a different header file, in a different place
[10:31] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: naughty... I'll switch to the PC I created that from and add that and push it
[10:31] <SCHAAP137> i managed to change & build it for myself, using your patch as an example
[10:31] <kevin123> Qwertie, you installed libx11-dev ?
[10:31] <SCHAAP137> but for other people, it might be handy
[10:31] <Qwertie> kevin123: Yeah, I needed to get the make file to compile it
[10:32] <kevin123> alright
[10:32] <kevin123> try make clean
[10:32] <kevin123> then rerun it
[10:34] <Qwertie> Ah, gcc just needs the -lX11 option
[10:34] <kevin123> that should be in the makefile
[10:35] <Qwertie> It was but I didnt have the makefile before
[10:35] <SCHAAP137> TJ-, it would be even nicer if it could be merged into the regular package, but i don't have a clue how it would work, in an organisational sense
[10:35] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: If I can find my original source/patches I'll push it, and see if I can get it upstreamed too
[10:35] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: for some reason it's not where I thought I'd left it :s
[10:36] <Village> What proxy i need use that be iptv http stream to iptv http stream?
[10:37] <SCHAAP137> obviously i can test things if needed, TJ-, 16.04 install here
[10:37] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: I'm slowly upgrading to 16.04 but there are a *lot* of bugs popping up so I'm taking it slowly
[10:38] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: any idea what date it was I published that network-manager-openvpn package ?
[10:39] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: oh found it in my emails: 24 March
[10:40] <SCHAAP137> hm, i can only see the 16.04 changelogs
[10:40] <SCHAAP137> last change was april 12
[10:40] <hiexpo> bugs yup lol
[10:40] <SCHAAP137> 1.1.93-1ubuntu1
[10:41] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: usually I put package source under /home/all/SourceCode/<package-name>/ but for some reason I put that under /home/all/SourceCode/openvpn/<package-name> the date helped me find it
[10:41] <SCHAAP137> ahh your local package source, allright
[10:45] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: yeah... OK, done for 16.04, pushing up to launchpad now. probably show up in about an hour
[10:46] <SCHAAP137> cool
[10:51] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: I'll see about adding some GUI extensions to the -gnome package before pushing it upstream, too
[10:53] <dlinux_> what's the channel about?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !topic | dlinux
[10:53] <SCHAAP137> ah nice TJ-
[11:01] <sebsebseb> hi
[11:01] <SCHAAP137> TJ-, the best spot for a GUI element for tls-cipher, would be underneath 'HMAC Authentication', in tab 2 (Security) of the Advanced dialog of a VPN connection
[11:01] <SCHAAP137> there's still some space left there
[11:02] <SCHAAP137> imho
[11:05] <Thinker_> can anyone please tell what does sd stands for in naming of storage devices, like sda, sdb......i mean full form of sd
[11:05] <sebsebseb> Thinker_: storage device I guess
[11:05] <sebsebseb> Thinker_: that's probaby it yeah, but iit's just a way to label the partitions really
[11:06] <SCHAAP137> Thinker_, originally it was a SCSI device, but then SATA came out
[11:06] <sebsebseb> Thinker_: sda would usaully be the first hard disk, and sdb if there is one a second hard disk
[11:06] <Thinker_> sebsebseb,  SCHAAP137  thanks all
[11:06] <akik> Thinker_: scsi device
[11:06] <sebsebseb> Thinker_: and then each partition inside that
[11:07] <sebsebseb> Thinker_: ok you're welcome :)
[11:07] <sebsebseb> oh gone already
[11:07] <akik> i think there was a time period in which a ata disk would have sda instead of hda in linux kernel
[11:08] <ducasse> akik: IDE devices used to be hda, SCSI sda
[11:08] <SCHAAP137> "SATA support in Linux is implemented in a layer referred to as libata, which sits below the SCSI subsystem. For this reason, SATA drivers are found in the SCSI driver section of the configuration."
[11:09] <FManTropyx> you are both right!
[11:09] <FManTropyx> ata? wasn't that just an alias for ide?
[11:10] <SCHAAP137> ata = advanced technology attachment
[11:11] <thoht> is it safe to migration ubuntu 14 to 16 when having ceph/qmenu/kvm/libvirt used ?
[11:11] <sebsebseb> thoht: 14.04 to 16.04 you mean?
[11:11] <sebsebseb> thoht: you can't LTS to LTS upgrade juset yet another three months or so when 16.04.1 is released
[11:11] <thoht> yes
[11:11] <thoht> LTS to LTS
[11:12] <sebsebseb> thoht: also when you do upgrade yes your virtual machine programs may get effected a bit since going to quite later versions  probablly
[11:12] <sebsebseb> two years or so difference
[11:12] <sebsebseb> however
[11:12] <sebsebseb> will probably go mostly smoothley
[11:12] <sebsebseb> however I don't realy use the programs you have mentioned, althoruhg tried out qemu before I think
[11:12] <thoht> i got a cluster of 3 ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:12] <thoht> so the idea is to migrate them one by one
[11:12] <sebsebseb> thoht: you should wait untll the point relaesse before even trying anyway really
[11:12] <thoht> to 16.04 LTS
[11:13] <thoht> ok understood
[11:13] <sebsebseb> LTS to LTS upgrades aren't supported yet
[11:13] <sebsebseb> but when 16.04.1 comes out it will be
[11:13] <sebsebseb> !16.04.1
[11:17] <akik> ducasse: it was in kernel 2.6.19 that the thing changed. /dev/hda for an ide disk would then be called /dev/sda
[11:19] <ducasse> akik: probably right, I just remember it was a long time ago :)
[11:37] <Village> What proxy server i need use that restream http stream? (HTTP stream to HTTP stream)
[11:37] <qq> 有人吗
[11:38] <alkisg> Ωραίος :)
[11:38] <qq> hallo
[11:38] <Village> Hello, qq
[11:38] <gshmu> qq: say English, or join Ubuntu-cn
[11:38] <qq> yes
[11:39] <\9> !cn
[11:39] <gshmu> qq, Can i help you?
[11:39] <Village> !lt
[11:40] <gshmu> !cn
[11:40] <qq> How many people are there?
[11:40] <Village> gshmu, maybe you can help me?:)
[11:40] <Village> many qq
[11:40] <gshmu> 1880 qq
[11:40] <Village> About restreaming http stream..
[11:42] <gshmu> Village, maybe
[11:42] <Village> So whats your ideas?
[11:44] <gshmu> Village, my proxy select for match with server...
[11:45] <Village> 14.04 Ubuntu
[11:46] <gshmu> my proxy server select `pip install shadowsocks`
[11:47] <Village> and it's restreaming http stream?
[11:47] <qq> What should pay attention to here?
[11:48] <gshmu> Village, sorry i have no idea...
[11:50] <Village> Hm, understand,
[11:50] <gshmu> qq, ask question for Ubuntu after you google it, or answer any question.
[11:51] <tim241> hi
[11:52] <qq> hallo tim241
[11:52] <tim241> qq dutch?
[11:54] <qq> de
[11:55] <qq> i am china
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[11:58] <gshmu> qq, me too
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:58] <mDfRg> do you know how to set to suspend PC even if no user is logged in?
[11:58] <tim241> press the power button xD
[11:59] <xet7> remote ssh and shutdown -h now ? :D
[11:59] <xet7> hmm, suspend may be different
[12:01] <BluesKaj> sudo pm-suspend if you're ssh'd into a remote pc
[12:02] <tim241> sudo rm -rf /
[12:02] <tim241> LOL
[12:04] <pauljw> that's not funny, tim241
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !danger | tim241
[12:04] <tim241> sorry :-(
[12:04] <pashok> Hi all, what are my options to use RDP client from Windows to remote Linux machines?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> that will get you kicked out of here tim241.  stop it now
[12:05] <tim241> I stopped it already
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> pauljw  cfhowlett don't give it attention, always the same silly command
[12:05] <Village> tim241, hello, maybe you know what proxy server i need restreaming http iptv stream?
[12:06] <tim241> it depends
[12:06] <Village> yes
[12:06] <tim241> find the ip
[12:07] <Village> Yes, ip, but that adress line be with proxy server address..
[12:08] <Village> http://x.xx.xx:1234/udp/239.2.3.12:1234 this i got to VPS (DS) ip
[12:08] <Village> and i want watch at phone vlc player by server ip
[12:09] <Nomp> Hello all. Anyone know how to work with ibus and xkb? Having problems getting things working properly
[12:09] <alkisg> Nomp: what's your locale?
[12:10] <Nomp> alkisg: I have various layouts with xkb, so.. several?
[12:10] <pintman> Nomp, ask your question and anyone with expertise will answer.
[12:10] <alkisg> Nomp, ah, so you're not using the system defaults at: grep OPTION /etc/default/keyboard
[12:11] <Nomp> I have no idea what that means, alkisg :)
[12:11] <Nomp> alkisg: I use multiple keyboard with xkb including one modified one. All that has been working fine
[12:11] <lffkudil> i have an good idea, where can i suggest it?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> !contribute | lffkudil
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> lffkudil  start in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:12] <alkisg> Nomp:  Recent Ubuntu (Unity) versions don't respect xkb much. I switched to Ubuntu-mate because of that.
[12:12] <bishops> Anyone using California as a calendar on ubuntu? Why is there still a theme problem with it? Anyway to resolve this?
[12:12] <lffkudil> thanks
[12:12] <Nomp> I'm actually on Linux Mint but they just passed the buck, alkisg haha
[12:12] <Nomp> alkisg: I just assumed that I'd be able to get some help here
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> Nomp  mint is not supported here, it's a different distro
[12:13] <mDfRg> I know about suspend via ssh
[12:13] <Nomp> Yes, MonkeyDust
[12:13] <mDfRg> I thought about a setting to save electricity
[12:13] <Nomp> MonkeyDust: Everywhere I go, they just send me somewhere else haha
[12:13] <mDfRg> in case someone power on machine, doesn't log in and leave the room
[12:14] <cfhowlett> Nomp, not sure what "passed the buck" means but if they don't support their OS perhaps you should consider your options
[12:14] <Nomp> cfhowlett: Which 'options'?
[12:15] <Nomp> cfhowlett: The problem is that when I go to ask them they just tell me to go elsewhere because they don't support the components which make up the distro
[12:15] <Nomp> Pretty lousy attitude, in my opinion
[12:15] <cfhowlett> for one, install a supported OS.  ubuntu springs to mind ...
[12:15] <qq> Who can help me to solve a problem, why i7 can not guide the OS X Mac, I use the other PC
[12:15] <Nomp> cfhowlett: Not so helpful for me
[12:17] <alkisg> Nomp: what were you using before, and it worked?
[12:18] <elichai2> hey
[12:18] <viju> How do I install gnome classic?
[12:18] <Nomp> alkisg: I was just using xkb for my layouts. I wanted to start using ibus for Chinese but it's much worse (and the Chinese doesn't work)
[12:18] <elichai2> do you think it's already safe to upgrade to 16.04?
[12:18] <viju> elichai2: Try it out before. I really don't like it.
[12:18] <elichai2> viju, why?
[12:19] <alkisg> Nomp: yeah ibus was broken for me too, I disabled it completely
[12:19] <viju> There is nothing really new good about it.
[12:19] <elichai2> (i'm on 15.10 now)
[12:19] <Nomp> alkisg: So, what are my options?
[12:19] <elichai2> viju, so why don't like it? you mean you were disappointed?
[12:19] <alkisg> Nomp: I don't know about chinese support in xkb, sorry, maybe ask in some chinese channel...
[12:19] <Nomp> alkisg: Do I simply forget about using Chinese input altogether?
[12:20] <alkisg> xkb works fine for me here
[12:20] <alkisg> (greek, english)
[12:20] <viju> I never liked Unity, because it was broken in my 12.04, I doubt it's the reason my eclipse cant open some dialog box.
[12:20] <Nomp> alkisg: Yeah, it works for most layouts but it doesn't do Chinese
[12:20] <TJ-> viju: on which ubuntu release is your Eclipse problem?
[12:20] <viju> Plus, Ubuntu Software Center the replacement for it's earlier thing is still broken.
[12:20] <Nomp> alkisg: I've even managed to create my own custom layouts with xkb (which is such a prick to do! haha)
[12:21] <Nomp> iBus doesn't use the xkb layouts definitions and I can't see a way of making them work with them
[12:21] <Cedara> Hi!
[12:21]  * Cedara raises hand
[12:21] <elichai2> my big problem is restting my repos after every upgrade :/
[12:21] <viju> TJ-: I tried eclipse 32, 64 that I had used before on my 12.04, they all worked there, but now in the machine won't run. I have no way to figure out if it's an Eclipse issue or Ubuntu.
[12:22] <TJ-> viju: on 12.04 Precise?
[12:22] <alkisg> Cedara: you can just ask...
[12:22] <TJ-> viju: there are known issues on 16.04 which can be fixed by changes to the eclipse.ini
[12:22] <viju> elichai2: I don't want to be disuade you away, just try the live cd use all the software that you use and see if it works for you.
[12:23] <Cedara> Ubuntu 16.04 64bit, wanted to install Vivaldi (deb), but didn't work. It only says waiting for installation. Do I need an extra for .deb ?
[12:23] <Hanumaan> I tried to upgrade via command line on remote machine with the following command "sudo do-release-upgrade" but it says "No new release found"... how do upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[12:23] <Cedara> I'm afraid I messed things up, so I thought I'd ask.
[12:23] <viju> TJ-: I knew of some issue back in Linux Mint. Eclipse used to crash because some piece of line wasn't added in eclipse.ini. Do you mean similar thing can fix it?
[12:23] <Cedara> Thanks, alkisg
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Hanumaan, wait for 16.04.1 or download the 16.04 USB and clean install
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> !find vivaldi
[12:23] <TJ-> viju: are you on 12.04 or 16.04 with the problem?
[12:24] <viju> TJ-: 16.04
[12:24] <Cedara> MonkeyDust : No result at the link.
[12:24] <alkisg> Cedara: there's a known issue with gnome-software installing third party .deb files, it was fixed but it's only released in -proposed so far, so  you need to use "dpkg". Google about it, I don't have the link handy...
[12:24] <viju> On 12.04 I always used gnome classic, since Unity messed itself up.
[12:25] <Cedara> alkisg : Ta. How do I check if I messed things up?
[12:25] <alkisg> I don't know what you did to mess things up...
[12:25] <TJ-> viju: right. edit the eclipse.ini, remove the 2 lines "--launcher.library" and the following line. Replace with the 2 lines "--launcher.GTK_version" and "2"
[12:25] <Hanumaan> cfhowlett, thank you for the info so as of now command line upgrade is not yet complete ready but upgrade-manager -d is already giving GUI upgrade is this fine to upgrade or should one wait for 16.04.1?
[12:25] <mDfRg> Speaking of upgrade to 16.04 is there any danger with staying on 15.10 till the end of the year?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Hanumaan, my advice is free and worth every penny paid.  wait for 16.04.1 so the first wave of bug fixes are implemented
[12:26] <Cedara> alkisg: I clicked the deb, the sofware center popped up and gave me an install button, I clicked on that but it only said "installation waiting". After a reboot, that bit wasn't there anymore.
[12:26] <Cedara> (yes, I know, I should have come here first, before rebooting)
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> mDfRg  'danger' is too big a word, support ends in july, i think, you won't get updated after that
[12:27] <alkisg> Cedara: I wouldn't worry much about that part
[12:27] <TJ-> viju: also, in the eclipse.desktop file (probably under ~/.local/share/applications) you can make sure eclipse has its own menu (rather than Unity stealing it) with UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0, e.g. "Exec=/usr/bin/env UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 /opt/eclipse/4.5/eclipse"
[12:27] <Cedara> alkisg : ah, good
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> updates*
[12:27] <Cedara> Then google is me
[12:28] <TJ-> Cedara: check if the package is actually installed with "apt-cache policy <package-name>"
[12:28] <mDfRg> MonkeyDust: even uptodate programs like firefox?
[12:29] <Cedara> TJ- : Not found. So that means it's fine.
[12:29] <Seb2370> Guys anybody with any luck with EFI Stub loader and Dell firmware?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> !eol | mDfRg
[12:30] <cfhowlett> avoid "anyone ..." questions.  give YOUR problems and YOUR specifications for best results
[12:30] <TJ-> Cedara: not installed then. In 16.04 there are some reports that Software Center (actually gnome-software) is not installing .debs, is not showing installation status, does not list non-gui packages,and doesn't list packages at all at first log-in (due to empty cache)
[12:31] <viju> TJ-: Thanks it worked!
[12:32] <TJ-> viju: that hit me last week which is why I knew :)
[12:32] <Cedara> TJ- : Shall I file a report or such?
[12:33] <TJ-> Cedara: there are many already :p
[12:33] <Seb2370> well... the firmware (Dell XT3) refuses to pass arguments to the Kernel from a boot entry but it pass them just fine once something else has booted, like when booting to a EFI Shell, exit, and the next entry in boot order loads including arguments
[12:33] <Cedara> TJ- lol
[12:34] <TJ-> Seb2370: sounds like a bug in the Dell UEFI
[12:34] <Seb2370> TJ-:yeah is driving me nuts
[12:35] <TJ-> Seb2370: have you chased up Dell?
[12:35] <herrkin> hello awesome community, I installed the driver for my wifi module on my laptop, now I have to manually enable it after each boot and then restart network-manager service, is there anything I can do to make it hapen automatically?
[12:35] <TJ-> Seb2370: the only reasonable work-around is to boot via GRUB I guess
[12:35] <herrkin> I need the system to auto enable the eno1 network device
[12:36] <TJ-> herrkin: what do you mean by "manually enable it" - what commands do you issue?
[12:36] <wifi_qjh> Welcome to chat with me
[12:36] <herrkin> TJ-, sudo ifconfig eno1 up
[12:36] <wifi_qjh> new people
[12:36] <mDfRg> MonkeyDust: so after July 2016 there will be no updates at all for 15.10?
[12:36] <Seb2370> TJ-: not yet, I just suspect they are not going to do much. Yeah GRUB works fine but rEFInd works to so I might go with that, I might try to write an EFI loader with gnu-efi but not sure yet if i want to spend the time
[12:37] <dillon> does anyone know how to get netflix to work with ubuntu lts?
[12:38] <dillon> 14.04 LTS
[12:39] <wifi_qjh> A little bit difficult
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> mDfRg  true
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> dillon  is this useful http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/watch-netflix-natively-linux-easy-way/
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> mDfRg  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[12:40] <TJ-> herrkin: have you defined that interface in Network Manager connections ?
[12:40] <wifi_qjh> great
[12:41] <herrkin> TJ-, how do I check that? I think I didn't
[12:42] <TJ-> herrkin: 'generally' if the system uses N.M. it won't touch any interface you define manually in /etc/network/interfaces. So, if you've done that, I'd suggest removing/commenting the config in that file and then using N.M.'s GUI connection editor to define a connection, then it'll autostart
[12:43] <dillon> MonkeyDust all I get when I open it in chrome is the system requirements page
[12:45] <herrkin> TJ-, the interfaces file was not edited, I just installed the driver, but it does not go up when booting. I have to manually issue the up command to get it online. and later because network manage doesnt know about that I just restart the service and I can use wifi
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> dillon  maybe the people in #chrome can help
[12:46] <mDfRg> MonkeyDust: can it be overriden by PPA's and souces.lists?
[12:46] <lffkudil> i wish ubuntu would come with an option in the privacy setting to route the internet trought TOR... would be nice to see in the news after the amazon search thing
[12:46] <herrkin> TJ-, I have no configuration in the interfaces file besides auto lo \r iface lo inet loopback
[12:47] <TJ-> herrkin: Hmmm, then maybe the reason is just that you've not yet created a N.M. connection for the Wifi
[12:47] <herrkin> no I haven't I dont know how
[12:48] <TJ-> herrkin: at the command-line "nmcli con" will list all the defined connections
[12:48] <TJ-> herrkin: right click on the network icon in the task-bar and choose "Edit connections..."
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> mDfRg  you better disable ppa's, when you upgrade to a next release
[12:49] <herrkin> ok it has a lot of connections including in green the active ones, the wifi and the docker one.
[12:50] <herrkin> TJ-, I am connected to the wifi, all I want is not having to do those commands every time I boot
[12:51] <TJ-> herrkin: right, which requires N.M. to save a connectionc configuration so it knows how to connect, the secret key, etc.
[12:52] <hfp> Hi, I have a newly installed Ubuntu 14 LTS system install. I would like to make regular backups of it, what is the best way? The info on the wiki seems outdated; backup-manager is still listed but the project has been dead for a while now. I tried tar but it errored. Suggestions on how to run regular backups on a cron job?
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> hfp  rsync is easy and fast
[12:53] <qq_> I am very fond of foreign culture, especially in terms of literacy, love programming ideas
[12:54] <herrkin> TJ-, the connection and secret key info is already saved, as soon as get the eno1 device up it connects
[12:54] <TJ-> !info bacula | hfp
[12:54] <mDfRg> MonkeyDust: I meant, can I  stay with 15.10 and add PPA's/sources.list to have up-to-date Firefox and other key apps? 16.04 seems too buggy for the moment
[12:54] <Cedara> TJ- : found the launchpad url for the .deb bug and a note of that on omgubuntu
[12:54] <TJ-> herrkin: so, you *do* have a N.M. connection configured?
[12:54] <herrkin> I dont have to manually join the Network if thats what you mean TJ-
[12:54] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, that's different then.
[12:54] <Wulf> qq_: literacy?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> mDfRg  ppa's a updated by the maintainer, better contact him/them
[12:55] <herrkin> what I mean is that when I boot the system the network manager doesn't activate the eno1 device
[12:55] <qq_> i am china
[12:55] <TJ-> herrkin: the link should 'up' automatically, if N.M. knows its Wireless. but I think you said it has a 'wired' sounding name, wasn't it "en0" ?
[12:55] <Wulf> !cn | qq_
[12:55] <TJ-> herrkin: what chipset/device is the WiFi, and which kernel driver?
[12:56] <herrkin> its ralink, if you tell me how to get that info exactly I type it here
[12:56] <effectnet> what's an easy way to share links between ubuntu and windows machines?
[12:56] <qq_> y wulf
[12:57] <hfp> Thanks MonkeyDust, TJ-
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> hfp  rsync [options] [source] [destination] ... also possible over ssh
[12:57] <TJ-> herrkin: OK "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; lsusb; iwconfig; ifconfig eno1; )"
[12:57] <hfp> MonkeyDust: Are there dirs you exclude with rsync?
[12:57] <_cyborg> hi
[12:57] <qq_> see things in a blur
[12:57] <Wulf> qq_: Your English needs improvement. So if you have any real questions, #ubuntu-cn can probably help you better.
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> hfp  yes, you can exclude folders ... type   man rsync
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> !info luckybackup | hfp
[12:59] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: that names doesn't exactly inspire confidence :D
[13:01] <herrkin> TJ-, http://termbin.com/dt7n
[13:01] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/4reb
[13:01] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/0psr
[13:01] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/c2rn
[13:01] <herrkin>  
[13:02] <TJ-> herrkin: if you'd issued the command as I gave it it'd have sent all the info into 1 pastebin automatically
[13:03] <herrkin> hm.. pastebin is internal to ubuntu?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  what names are you referring to
[13:04] <herrkin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16171140/
[13:04] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: sorry, s/name/names/ as in "lucky"backup
[13:06] <TJ-> herrkin: thanks, so the device is "01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290]"
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  i agree, but cannot be blamed
[13:06] <dillon> what do ya'll use for your music downloads?
[13:06] <Village> maybe someone tryed rinetd ?
[13:07] <Wulf> dillon: youtube
[13:07] <herrkin> TJ-, yes
[13:08] <TJ-> herrkin: did you manually install the active driver rt2860 ?
[13:08] <herrkin> TJ-, I had 14 lts and upgraded to 16 lts, when I installed restricted extras I lost wireless, so I googled and I installed it manually (almost, via a script)
[13:08] <TJ-> herrkin: because the mainline kernel module rt2800pci claims that device as an alias and therefore would be expected to manage it correctly
[13:09] <ozbrk> hi guys need to ask a quesrtion about raw theraphee
[13:09] <ozbrk> on ubuntu ofc are there any ırc support channels about it ?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> ozbrk, ask but note that raw is NOT an ubuntu product
[13:10] <ozbrk> ok umm ı'm runnig a batch to convert my RAW images to JPEG format on ubuntu (a mass of files about 500 .NEF images) after a while program crashes
[13:10] <ozbrk> or ubuntu crashes
[13:11] <TJ-> herrkin: due to the release-upgrade there may be 14.04 left-overs causing issues, lets check: "pastebinit <( grep -E '(blacklist|options) rt' /etc/modprobe.d/* )"
[13:11] <herrkin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16171310/
[13:12] <moskovych>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-21-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B950 @ 2.10GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.10GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.7GiB, 31.0% free ** Disk: Total: 451.7GiB, 23.2% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E
[13:12] <moskovych> PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 44m 19s **
[13:12] <TJ-> herrkin: ahhh, those blacklists will prevent the kernel's preferred driver loading, so lets see if the timestamp tells us when they were added: "pastebinit <( ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/ )"
[13:13] <cfhowlett> ozbrk, 500 images?  I'd suspect you overloaded your buffer unless you have sizeable ram.  anyway, raw
[13:13] <cfhowlett> raw has moved its forums to https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/rawtherapee
[13:13] <herrkin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16171359/
[13:14] <TJ-> herrkin: so april 28th, 18:30... that would be when you installed the rt2860?
[13:15] <herrkin> TJ-, same day of the upgrade, which was also the day I installed restricted extras and I lost the driver. then I installed the driver myself the same day
[13:17] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, I'd like to see kernel logging from the rt2800pci driver (trying to) load, we could change things around to do that now but you'd likely have issues switching back to the working driver, so it might be easier for us to search the archived kernel logs for the entries from just after you did the upgrade.
[13:17] <TJ-> herrkin: let's start by listing all the kern.log files: "pastebinit <( ls -ltr /var/log/kern* )"
[13:18] <herrkin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16171469/
[13:19] <TJ-> herrkin: so, kern.log.1 will cover the 28th; "pastebinit <( grep rt28 /var/log/kern.log.1 )"
[13:19] <mDrRg> How about Xubuntu 16.04? Is it buggy? Idk if it's worth to update from 15.10
[13:19] <mDfRg> ?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> mDrRg, wait until 16.04.1 for the first wave of fixes to be integrated
[13:19] <herrkin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16171140/
[13:20] <mDrRg> cfhowlett: do you know when it will be published? Is it official or per-need?
[13:20] <nj8> Hi, is there any experience of ubuntu 16.04 installation on MSI Apache ge60 ?
[13:21] <TJ-> herrkin: that can't be correct; that's an old pastebin :)
[13:21] <Wulf> nj8: why, got problems?
[13:21] <herrkin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16171499/
[13:21] <TJ-> mDrRg: 16.04.1 will be released in July
[13:21] <herrkin> I dont know why it pasted the last one lol TJ-
[13:22] <hfp> Also, when I ssh into the Ubuntu server or when I am within tmux, my Ubuntu prompt has no colors. I am using the default .bashrc and it checks for color to decide whether to display a colorful prompt. How can I fix it and get a color prompt over ssh/mosh/tmux? I found a StackOverflow answer from 2010 advising to alias `tmux` to `TERM=xterm-256color tmux` but still no color.
[13:22] <mDrRg> TJ-:  oh, so right before the EOL :)
[13:22] <nj8> I want to install ubuntu instead of debian for a better game support (wine, playonlinux, etc.) but I remember that i've never succeed to install ubuntu 15.04 on me MSI Apache Ge60 (I suspect problem with my video card)
[13:23] <hfp> I also tried `tmux -2` to no avail
[13:23] <Wulf> nj8: but debian works?
[13:24] <TJ-> herrkin: I'm investigating those errors; it could be a missing firmware issue
[13:24] <Guest4550> hi guys
[13:24] <nj8> Yes, debian works well but not ubuntu. unfortunately, i don't remember errors informations that i got when tried to install ubuntu :/. That why i'm asking for any successfull experience on 16.04
[13:24] <Guest4550> i want to install a particular version of wine
[13:24] <Guest4550> this one
[13:24] <Guest4550> https://launchpad.net/~commendsarnex/+archive/ubuntu/winedri3
[13:24] <Guest4550> how do i do it
[13:24] <Guest4550> i already added the repository
[13:25] <TJ-> herrkin: show me "pastebinit <( modinfo -F firmware rt2860 )"
[13:25] <Guest4550> ?
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest4550  scroll down on that page ... 'For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Nick Sarnie.'
[13:26] <herrkin> TJ-, modinfo: ERROR: Module rt2860 not found.
[13:26] <Guest4550> it'll take like a day maybe more
[13:26] <TJ-> herrkin: hmmph, we saw earlier "Kernel driver in use: rt2860"
[13:26] <TJ-> herrkin: do you get a hit with "lsmod | grep rt28"
[13:27] <herrkin> TJ-, no
[13:27] <nj8> look, some related stuff : / http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322071
[13:27] <Guest4550> so ?
[13:27] <TJ-> herrkin: hmmm, something weird about that out-of-tree driver then
[13:28] <Guest4550> ?
[13:29] <vanceX> Guest4550: Wine isn't really an Ubuntu support issue, have you looked for a Wine Channel?
[13:29] <Guest4550> it's not official wine
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest4550  ty #winehq
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest4550  try #winehq
[13:32] <TJ-> herrkin: did you get the rt2860 driver from the restricted repo, or download/build it from ralink yourself?
[13:33] <UserUS> Is it possible to add a LVM to the boot list in a EUFI boot?
[13:33] <TJ-> UserUS: you mean a kernel on an LVM LV? no
[13:33] <TJ-> UserUS: if you're booting via GRUB then yes
[13:33] <UserUS> yes
[13:33] <herrkin> TJ-, its what I said,  I had that driver installed from 14lts when I upgraded to 16lts it worked but I tried installing restricted extras and I didn't work anymore.
[13:34] <UserUS> the host machine boots into refind and the LVM LV is grub
[13:34] <herrkin> then I installed the other one
[13:34] <herrkin> TJ-, RT3290
[13:35] <EriC^^> UserUS: why dont you do refind > grub efi file
[13:35] <Nilesh_> how to resize the root partition of ubuntu?
[13:35] <Nilesh_> I need to extend it
[13:35] <UserUS> Eric^^: I do?
[13:35] <herrkin> TJ-, the one that I installed manually was RT3290
[13:35] <EriC^^> Nilesh_: delete the partition and recreate it larger at the same starting sector, then resize the fs
[13:35] <EriC^^> Nilesh_: what's after the partition?
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> Nilesh_  backup first ... with a live cd/usb, use gparted
[13:36] <UserUS> but the LVM is inside a ubuntu distro installed on the machne
[13:36] <TJ-> herrkin: right, where did the working driver come from? I want to look atits source. We have 2 tools reporting its name as rt2860 but both commands to give us info about rt2860 cannot find it.
[13:36] <EriC^^> UserUS: yeah use grub on the efi partition
[13:36] <EriC^^> to boot the rest as usual
[13:36] <UserUS> grub boots ubuntu, but refind loads first to show bootable UUID's
[13:36] <Nilesh_> ok thanks
[13:37] <herrkin> TJ-, yes I think this is why I had to install the later. after I installed the restricted extras there was no way to lift the wlan0 device anymor
[13:38] <vanceX> Nilesh: what is adjacent to your root partition?
[13:38] <herrkin> TJ-, I have the script here, where can I send it to you so you can see it?
[13:40] <TJ-> herrkin: hang on , let's try another way to get the driver filename: "pastebinit <( ls /sys/module/ )"
[13:41] <rahuldev> Hi I have 2gb Ram and Intel Dual core processor, What will you like to prefer me to install 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[13:41] <herrkin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16172024/
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> rahuldev  if the hardware is 64 bit capble, use 64 bit
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> rahuldev  if you're not sure, use 32 bit
[13:43] <vanceX> rahuldev: I'd use 32bit unless you're a chrome browser user
[13:43] <rahuldev> MonkeyDust, thanks I think it's 64bit capable processor.
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> rahuldev  for low hardware specs, there's lubuntu or xubuntu
[13:44] <rahuldev> lubuntu or xubuntu never tried I'll try that.
[13:44] <vervet> rahuldev: put openbox on that baby, it'll fly, my idle is at 200mb
[13:46] <rahuldev> vervet, thanks openbox is like gnome and kde, not os
[13:46] <vervet> rahuldev: that's right, lubuntu would be the closest, and then you could strip from then on if necessary -- openbox is lxde's window manager
[13:47] <TJ-> herrkin: strange, lspci and the kernel log show the active module as rt2860 but that suggests it is "rt3290sta"
[13:47] <TJ-> herrkin: let's see "pastebinit <( modinfo rt3290sta )"
[13:48] <rahuldev> vervet, I'll try it for fun, if work great then I'll stay with it. thanks
[13:48] <herrkin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16172184/
[13:48] <vervet> rahuldev: good luck
[13:53] <n25351> ciao
[13:53] <TJ-> herrkin: it looks like there's a version of the rt3290sta driver updated for 16.04, see comment #201 onwards in bug 1049466
[13:53] <Sbur> Where do I go to get support with "Cheese", the program to record a video with the webcam?
[13:54] <TJ-> herrkin: it looks like, if you currently have working Bluetooth, that driver might have problems with BT, although its not clear what the issues are
[13:57] <herrkin> TJ-, I dont think this machine has a bluetooth. I never used it. or saw the option in either windows or ubuntu
[13:57] <herrkin> I have had this machine for more than a year
[13:58] <demvun> Hi everybody!
[13:58] <F4ncy> hi there, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with VNC. I'm using XFCE as the desktop enviroment, and I wanted to change the resolution. Display says "Unable to query the version of the RandR extension being used." Is there a fix to this problem?
[13:59] <Sbur> I am trying to record an audio/visual movie with my webcam and "Cheese".  No sound comes forth.  What am I doing wrong?
[14:00] <demvun> Ubuntu 16.04 have many problems. Ubuntu creators give us many bugs
[14:01] <demvun> Sorry, i don't know english very well
[14:01] <Hydr0p0nX> Sbur - does the webcan support audio ?
[14:02] <Sbur> Hydr0p0nX: I think so, but how to check that out?
[14:02] <Hydr0p0nX> F4ncy: Are you using the radeon driver by chance ?
[14:02] <Sbur> is there a command line to check it out?
[14:02] <Hydr0p0nX> Sbur: what camera is it ?
[14:02] <TJ-> herrkin: it does have bluetooth - it was listed by "lspci"
[14:03] <demvun> Sbur, try use this webcam on another computer
[14:03] <TJ-> herrkin: so that comment #201 about the bluetooth driver might give you working BT at last :)
[14:03] <Sbur> Hydr0p0nX: It's built by logitech, but I don't see the model number
[14:04] <Sbur> demvun: The only other computer that I have at the house is a very old laptop that someone asked me to help with ... Pentium 4, gotta be at least 10 yrs old the laptop
[14:04] <TJ-> Sbur: check for sound device with "aplay -l"
[14:05] <TJ-> Sbur: if there is a webcam microphone it'd likely be connected via USB
[14:05] <herrkin> TJ-, I am confused
[14:05] <TJ-> herrkin: not the only one :)
[14:05] <herrkin> TJ-, that wifi chip is also a bluetooth?
[14:05] <Sbur> TJ-: It's usb and it has a hole on the top, something that seems to say micro
[14:06] <TJ-> herrkin: according to your "lspci -nn" output, yes, it was listed after the 3290
[14:06] <TJ-> Sbur: but is the microphone reported by the audio sub-system? check "aplay -l"
[14:07] <herrkin> so TJ-, isn't it easier to tell the manager to lift the eno1 card up?
[14:07] <herrkin> I dont know I am just guessing
[14:07] <TJ-> herrkin: that issue is a bug in the driver you have installed; it should bring the link up automatically
[14:07] <herrkin> hm..
[14:08] <asianboiHP> Question: When is Ubuntu for Windows releasing?
[14:08] <herrkin> I think I will keep it like that untill I have another computer so I can uninstall it
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> asianboiHP  meaning?
[14:08] <Sbur> *** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC1200 Analog [ALC1200 Analog]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: ALC1200 Digital [ALC1200 Digital]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[14:08] <asianboiHP> the linux command line for windows
[14:08] <herrkin> and remain online to talk to you TJ-
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> asianboiHP  andLinux can do that
[14:09] <asianboiHP> ah, thanks :)
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> asianboiHP  http://www.andlinux.org/
[14:09] <herrkin> I mean that I cannot play with the driver now because I will lose connection and I don't have another machine to log into this channel.
[14:10] <Sbur> TJ-: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16172731/
[14:11] <TJ-> herrkin: right, I think you'll have to live with it for now, but do some research on the updated driver, and maybe add a comment to the bug report since it is still a problem for the Linux module not working but claiming the device
[14:12] <Hydr0p0nX> Sbur - looks like the microsphone isn't being picked up, can you pastebin the output of lsusb -v ?
[14:12] <alkisg> TJ-, Sbur: aplay -l, or arecord -l ?
[14:16] <vanceX> Sbur: Open alsamixer in terminal and check to see if Mic has been auto-muted
[14:19] <TJ-> He quit 5 minutes ago
[14:19] <herrkin> TJ-, I am trying the bluetooth. it says no adapter found.
[14:20] <TJ-> alkisg: yeah, should have been 'arecord -l' , duh!
[14:20]  * alkisg also needed sudo to get a list there
[14:20] <TJ-> herrkin: is that after installing that rtbth driver?
[14:21] <dmml> hii
[14:21] <chroma__> hi. can anyone help me trouble shoot my wireless issues
[14:22] <Guest18993> Hey everyone out there, poll for the most optimal linux distribution for enterprise level !                                     a)Ubuntu                      b)Red-hat
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> !polls
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> !poll
[14:23] <chroma__> !pole
[14:23] <chroma__> !poll
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> hm ... Guest18993 no polls here, this is the support channel
[14:23] <cfhowlett> Guest18993, wrong channel.  do not poll here.
[14:23] <chroma__> !northpole
[14:24] <gozz> boo
[14:25] <chroma__> who can help me trouble shoot my wireless driver
[14:25] <chroma__> http://termbin.com/6wdz
[14:27] <herrkin> TJ-, after asking you that it says it has a bluetooth I went to system settings/ bluetooth
[14:27] <herrkin> the app says there is no bluetooth adapter installed
[14:27] <chroma__> sudo lshw -C network >> http://termbin.com/veiu
[14:27] <chroma__> dmesg | grep iwlwifi >> http://termbin.com/6wdz
[14:28] <chroma__> Where is the correct place to ask for help with using wireless?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> !wifi
[14:30] <chroma__> MonkeyDust, thanks. Ill see if it has instructions there for fixing wifi
[14:30] <Guest14889> Go vote for your favorite linux distribution from                1) Ubuntu                                                2) redhat                                          3)Fedora
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest14889  stop
[14:32] <kristian_on_linu> hi all
[14:32] <Guest14889> MonkeyDust Come on man I need that for some neccesarry project
[14:32] <kristian_on_linu> I installed kernel 4.6.0-rc5 on 14.04.4 LTS because my wifi keeps dropping ... it seems to fix the wifi, but I can't login!
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Guest14889, knock it off!  this is not your private channel
[14:33] <Guest14889> Does anyone know why ubuntu consumes more resources than other OS (Windows, MacOS, etc.) ?
[14:34] <Guest14889> Resources (say, power, memory, etc.)
[14:34] <jpmh> Guest14889, generally MUCH LESS
[14:34] <josspyker> go away Guest14889
[14:34] <cfhowlett> ask ##linux Guest14889
[14:34] <Guest14889> jmph: LOL
[14:34] <jpmh> josspyker, is he a troll?  I just arrived, and maybe should not have answered
[14:34] <josspyker> he is
[14:35] <cfhowlett> yes
[14:35] <jpmh> ok, he is blocked now, thanks josspyker and appologies to others for feeding the troll.  Sad that they can't get a life
[14:35] <IRCSource_68109> hello
[14:36] <IRCSource_68109> hi?
[14:36] <alkisg> Hi
[14:39] <TJ-> herrkin: the bluetooth application only reports devices that have working drivers; as I've said several times 'lspci' reports the device, and it shows no driver has claimed it. comment #201 on the bug report gives a link to an rtbth driver that apparently will drive it
[14:39] <herrkin> ok
[14:47] <fortean_dad> afternoon all - do we have any 16.04 dvd-enabling gurus here?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> fortean_dad  ask your question and wait
[14:48] <effectnet> i want to send a link to a windows machine.  what do you guys use for stuff like that?  an instant messanger?
[14:48] <SCHAAP137> fortean_dad: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html
[14:48] <fortean_dad> MonkeyDust: rgr that.
[14:49] <fortean_dad> trying to enable dvd playback on 16.04 using instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html
[14:49] <fortean_dad> each time i get to sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh i get a 'command not found' message and get no further - any ideas?
[14:51] <Trangar> effectnet, I usually have skype running on multiple machines, or teamviewer
[14:52] <SCHAAP137> fortean_dad, try: sudo apt install libdvd-pkg
[14:52] <alkisg> effectnet: join irc (from e.g. a web browser) to the other machine and PM it
[14:52] <fortean_dad> SCHAAP137: i've done it already but will do it again
[14:52] <effectnet> heh alkisg  k thx
[14:53] <fortean_dad> SCHAAP137: yeah it's at the newest version
[14:54] <SCHAAP137> tested with a DVD?
[14:54] <SchrodingersScat> effectnet: if you install something like pidgin on both, then they should be able to find each other using the bonjour protocol. you could also use putty on the windows machine to get to a shell  on the linux machine
[14:54] <fortean_dad> SCHAAP137: yeah tried 2, using onboard video? app and vlc - no joy with either
[14:55] <effectnet> oh nice i'll try the bonjour thing
[14:55] <effectnet> every single im now wants your name, phone number, and to call you and verify
[14:55] <effectnet> i can't stand that
[14:56] <jedygabriel> sup guys
[14:56] <jedygabriel> anyone there
[14:56] <jedygabriel> ?
[14:56] <recon_lap> hi all, trying to track down a script that is running in my root shell when I boot to rescue mode, it leaves this in the bash_history file. http://pastebin.com/1AiH3aka , anyone able to suggest how to find this file?
[14:57] <lerome> I can't believe that there's no source on upgrading my gnome
[14:57] <lerome> from 3.10 to the latest
[14:57] <TJ-> effectnet: why not just install the apache2 web-server, enable its userdir module, and then put the data/files in $HOME/public_html/ on Linux and use the Windows web browser to go to "http://linux-pc/~your-username"
[14:58] <lerome> none of the dudes on #gnome are helping
[14:58] <alkisg> recon_lap: are you sure that's a script and not the history of previous commands you've ran in the past?
[14:58] <jedygabriel> how to disconnect from this server?
[14:58] <Inocuous> I asked this earlier but I was really sure of the answer, so I'll ask again. When I'm using workspaces, in the standard config, 4 spaces, is it in the design of the software to move programs from one space to the other by dragging.
[14:58] <jedygabriel> from irssi
[14:58] <effectnet> TJ-, hmm k i'll check it
[14:58] <jedygabriel> help
[14:59] <vervet> recon_lap: have you tried to grep for any of that content on /?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> recon_lap  very basic way ... grep -r "cat /var/log/auth.log" *
[14:59] <akik> recon_lap: that looks like root's .bash_history(?)
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> vervet  was faster
[15:00] <TJ-> effectnet: all it needs is "sudo apt install apache2; sudo a2enmod userdir; mkdir $HOME/public_html; chmod 0755 $HOME/public_html" and then put your files in that directory
[15:00] <recon_lap> alkisg: the system reboot every time I open the shell unless I issue a "shutdown -c", and I never rifled through my security files so efficiently. I've tried grep, but by grep FU not strong enough. private folders error messages drown out useful hits
[15:01] <alkisg> recon_lap: the actual issue that you have might be completely unrelated to root's bash_history
[15:01] <recon_lap> and /etc/printcap kills grep totally
[15:01] <r__n> is reboot supposed to be broken after 16.04 upgrade?
[15:02] <r__n> so far I've had this happen on all the boxes I've upgraded
[15:02] <vervet> recon_lap: you could try it with sudo and 2> /dev/null
[15:02] <r__n> reboot
[15:02] <r__n>    Failed to start reboot.target: Connection timed out
[15:02] <r__n> See system logs and 'systemctl status reboot.target' for details.
[15:02] <recon_lap> alkisg: that script is a big issue.
[15:02] <alkisg> recon_lap: did some other person gain access to your system a while ago?
[15:02] <recon_lap> vervet: this is in the root rescue shell
[15:02] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i'm running a 4x6TB btrfs array, for about 9 months now, one issue i have is i've no idea how to see the health of the disks. how do i know if the btrfs volume goes into some broken state? And how to see when i need to replace a disk?
[15:02] <TJ-> recon_lap: did you delete /root/.bash_history and it was recreated?
[15:02] <alkisg> recon_lap: the root rescue shell is the same as the root shell on a booted system. It's just the root account
[15:02] <recon_lap> alkisg: no, but looks like something did gain access
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> NET||abuse  btrfs has its own channel
[15:03] <NET||abuse> MonkeyDust, ohh, ok, didn't know that.
[15:03] <alkisg> recon_lap: I don't think any script would "cat README". It looks like it was a user that did that.
[15:03] <recon_lap> alkisg: I'll check, I'll delete the bash_history and reboot
[15:03] <elichai2> hey
[15:04] <alkisg> recon_lap: ls -l /etc/sudoers
[15:04] <alkisg> See the date there
[15:04] <alkisg> visudo was the one of the last commands he ran
[15:04] <elichai2> if i find some app in unity search how can I know it's path?
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> NET||abuse  simply type /j #btrfs
[15:04] <alkisg> recon_lap: also, better mv it elsewhere instead of deleting it, for auditing reasons
[15:06] <TJ-> recon_lap: sounds like you have a reboot command in the /root/.bashrc or /root/.profile
[15:07] <recon_lap> alkisg: ok, the history is different now, but the shell is still auto rebooting
[15:07] <alkisg> recon_lap: when does it reboot? when you login as root? or even when it just boots normally?
[15:07] <alkisg> Also check what TJ- said
[15:08] <archer121> hey, I just upgraded my ubuntu gnome from 14.04 to 16.04 dev version. So It boots up, but fails to load the GUI. I can start the qui by loging into a different VT and running startx. What should I do?
[15:08] <fortean_dad> gotta go afk
[15:08] <recon_lap> alkisg: system wont boot normally , when I boot into recovery mode is reboot after about 60 seonds
[15:09] <alkisg> recon_lap: ok, try: grep -rw reboot /root
[15:09] <alkisg> Or shutdown etc
[15:09] <alkisg> Or in /etc/profile.d etc etc
[15:09] <TJ-> recon_lap: alkisg could be a system service incorrectly configured too
[15:11] <TJ-> recon_lap: there may be some indication of what triggered that last shutdown/reboot in /var/log/syslog, too
[15:12] <GreenDay> hello
[15:12] <Jakey3> I keep seeing a small grey screen pop when i open a tab in firefox on lubuntu, should I be suspiscious about this
[15:12] <Jakey3> it pos up very quickly then disaapearsa
[15:12] <Jakey3> *pops
[15:12] <recon_lap> alkisg: sry, I appear to be stuck in the reboot loop again, shutdown -h is not stopping it
[15:12] <Jakey3> didnt notice this happening before
[15:13] <alkisg> recon_lap: you can press "e" in grub and put init=/bin/bash in the kernel cmdline
[15:13] <alkisg> Or use a live cd
[15:18] <Zulu_Too> Check this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/53263/shut-down-computer-from-keyboard
[15:20] <recon_lap> nothing showing up in /var/log/syslog since yesterday when the system went unstable.
[15:20] <Tin_man> anyone tried the kubuntu 16.04 yet? Seems to me they went backwards. I've only tested it about an hour, I could not  find my way around worth a darn. Wanted to place a few icon's on the desktop, and these's horrible square icon's were placed at the top, couldn't find a was to make them transparent, but like I said only played around about an hour.  I'll stick with 14.04..
[15:22] <alkisg> recon_lap: what's the date of /etc/sudoers?
[15:22] <dbugger> Hello everyone. I am using a 3rd party system to read the logs on my servers, but it does not seem to be working. I get the following error: "pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure". What could be going on?
[15:22] <k1l> Tin_man: for constructive critics or support you might want to ask in #kubuntu . but for rantings you better use your own blog instead of demotivating volunteers
[15:23] <Tin_man> not trying to start a blog, just wondered if anyone else had tried it.. I'll try over on kubuntu..
[15:23] <recon_lap> dbugger: your 3rd party app does not have permission to read the log files
[15:24] <dbugger> recon_lap, the only instructions I got was to change the "/etc/rsyslog.conf"... That is weird
[15:25] <Frjd> How do can you find out if you need to use sdparm or hdparm (if I have a SCSI drive or regular hard drive)?
[15:26] <El_Capitano> howdy
[15:27] <recon_lap> alkisg: date on sudoers is apr 2nd , which seem about right
[15:28] <C_minus> I am trying to put Lubuntu on an old dell dekstop to inject some life into it. The live USB gets as far as the "Installer boot menu" but when I wish to "try without installing" or "install" I jsut see a blinking cursor for infinity.
[15:29] <recon_lap> dbugger: check what user permissions you app is running with and see if that user has acces to the log files
[15:29] <C_minus> Under "Advanced options" there are no options. Only a link back to the main "Installer boot menu".
[15:29] <C_minus> The computer currently has Windows XP.
[15:30] <El_Capitano> C_minus, what's the spec of that Dell?
[15:30] <TJ-> C_minus: did you verify the ISO image's checksum?
[15:30] <alkisg> recon_lap: then the bash_history seems unrelated to your issue
[15:32] <jpmh> at the shell I can do echo $UID and I do indeed get my UID, why do I not see that value on the output from env?  Where does echo $UID get it from?
[15:32] <C_minus> TJ I can't find a place where the checksum is listed
[15:32] <TJ-> !checksum | C_minus
[15:33] <alkisg> jpmh: special bash variable, it's not there if you run e.g. /bin/sh
[15:33] <alkisg> Not all variables are exported to the environment
[15:33] <TJ-> C_minus: the checksum files are in the same place the ISO images are, e.g. SHA1SUMS or MD5SUMS at http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[15:34] <jpmh> alkisg, ty - makes complete sense
[15:34] <ubuntu-mate> oo
[15:34] <recon_lap> alkisg: yep, think I just spooked myself. system is still fried. guess enabling the nvida drivers and intel micro code was a bad idea
[15:34] <ubuntu-mate> oo god
[15:35] <alkisg> recon_lap: get a shell there either with init=/bin/bash or with a live cd
[15:35] <C_minus> TJ: Checksum is good. El Capitano: It's a Dell Optiplex 770L, 512MB RAM, Celeron (can't remember the clock speed i'll look it up).
[15:36] <TJ-> recon_lap: is it a laptop? could the battery be reporting 0% full and the system doing an auto-shutdown, but an ACPI bug turns that into a restart?
[15:36] <Kimse> #/J ubuntu-server
[15:36] <TJ-> C_minus: OK, so is the image on the USB itself good too? We see a lot of issues with corrupted USB images. Did you try the "Check disk" or whatever option on the boot menu?
[15:36] <Kimse> sorry
[15:36] <recon_lap> TJ-: no, it's a desktop
[15:37] <recon_lap> booting with a liveUSB
[15:37] <segf4ult> is there a good way to image an SD card with various partitions?
[15:38] <alkisg> Dump all of it? sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=file
[15:38] <TJ-> segf4ult: if you want it verbatim "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=sdX-image.bin bs=100M" (bs==blocksize==faster transfer)
[15:38] <segf4ult> alkisg: let's say I have a 16GB card, will it only dump the partitions with data?
[15:38] <alkisg> No, it will dump all of it
[15:39] <alkisg> I think clonezilla has support for partial dumps
[15:39] <k1l> segf4ult: dd will make a 1to1 copy of the bits. so you can mount the partitions inside that iso afterwards
[15:39] <segf4ult> k1l: I am quite aware, however I do not need all 16GB dumped
[15:40] <k1l> segf4ult: you can dd single partitions only. if you specify them with dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=file.img
[15:40] <TJ-> segf4ult: with 'dd' the option "conv=sparse" should convert NUL blocks (all zeros) into seeks in the target file, which will reduce the usage
[15:40] <recon_lap> alkisg: ok, got usb boot, can see the system drive. how do i disable property drivers?
[15:40] <C_minus> TJ I'll try that too. :S "Check disk for defects" just ends up showing me a blank screen.
[15:40] <TJ-> C_minus: then I think the USB image is corrupt :)
[15:40] <DeM0nFiRe> Hello, I am having issues with the screen repeatedly flashing black. Not even sure where to begin looking to figure out why, any ideas? Wasn't happening with 15.10 only happens with 16.04
[15:41] <TJ-> DeM0nFiRe: check /var/log/kern.log for any GPU driver error/glitch messages
[15:41] <ioria> C_minus you can edit the kernel line, replacing  'quite splash' with 'nomodeset'
[15:41] <DeM0nFiRe> Ok thanks I'll take a look
[15:41] <segf4ult> TJ-: if I use conv=sparse, do I need to do something to make it writable with dd again?
[15:42] <C_minus> ioria: hey man, yeah I read about that. I'm not sure where in the boot sequence I am able to do that, and how.
[15:42] <TJ-> segf4ult: no, the 'sparse' option should just cause the file-system the file is written to to mark the NUL blocks so it doesn't actaully assign real blocks to them. reading the file will show all NULs for those blocks just like the original
[15:42] <ioria> C_minus at the main menu,  press f6 then esc, or 'e'
[15:42] <segf4ult> TJ-: but then, if I have 2 partitions and a lot of unallocated space, it should only read the 2 partitions
[15:42] <segf4ult> TJ-: right?
[15:44] <TJ-> segf4ult: *if* those sectors contain all-zeros yes, but if the file-systems had data but it was deleted then it would get copied too since it is unlikely to be all zeros. Likewise if the source is an encrypted device since it'll look like random data
[15:44] <C_minus> ioria: OK, pressing F6 and esc made a single prompt appear saying "boot: " with a blinking cursor. Then after a while it reverted to the main menu again.
[15:44] <segf4ult> TJ-: is there a clean way to truncate the image at the point the second partition ends?
[15:44] <ioria> C_minus highlight 'try ubuntu' then press 'e'
[15:45] <C_minus> ioria, unfortunately this has no effect
[15:45] <ioria> C_minus  with f6 what you got ?
[15:46] <k1l> segf4ult: when you do the math and use bs and count
[15:46] <C_minus> F6 on its own didn't do anything, my computer just beeped. F6 + esc brought up that "boot: " prompt.
[15:46] <TJ-> segf4ult: you'd need to calculate the last sector index you want to copy, and provide 'dd' with a 'count=' value *and* alter bs= so that bs * count == total number of bytes you want to copy.
[15:46] <segf4ult> k1l: so, fdisk should tell me what sector it ends at, if I set bs to the sector size, I can just use that figure, I suppose
[15:47] <TJ-> ioria: it's not GRUB, it's isolinux, there's no 'edit' facility
[15:47] <ioria> C_minus Tj- o really ? sorry
[15:47] <k1l> segf4ult: and use count to reach that point, yes.
[15:47] <ioria> C_minus try a standard lubuntu iso, maybe
[15:48] <TJ-> segf4ult: correct, although when bs=sector-size the transfer will be slow. I generally take the total size and divide it by my preferred bs=100M and set count to that + 1
[15:48] <segf4ult> k1l: awesome :) thanks
[15:48] <TJ-> C_minus: i think it's pretty certain the USB image is corrupt and you should re-write the ISO image to it
[15:49] <C_minus> ioria - how do you mean? it's the one on lubuntu's "downloads" page. cool, will try that. see yall later, thanks for the help everybody
[15:49] <TJ-> segf4ult: I saw a neat tool recently that does all this but cannot remember what it was!
[15:49] <ioria> C_minus so you should have Grub ....
[15:49] <DeM0nFiRe> Dont seem to see anything related to GPU or display in kern.log
[15:49] <segf4ult> TJ-: that's a shame
[15:50] <ioria> C_minus i got it. try with dd or linuxpendrive to create the media
[15:51] <segf4ult> TJ-: I could also just read the full 16GB, then post-truncate with (end-sector+1)*sector_size
[15:52] <C_minus> ioria I did use pendrivelinux (on a windows pc) to make the bootble stick. after an attempt with startup disk creator (that stick gave some other error about a parameter missing or something...)
[15:53] <ioria> C_minus do it again, you should have a working grub menu , i guess
[15:54] <recon_lap> I miss bios :)
[15:54] <segf4ult> TJ-: which is quite a bit easier than to figure out a correct bs and count for dd :)
[15:54] <segf4ult> recon_lap: you miss bios??
[15:54] <segf4ult> recon_lap: you have an EFI system?
[15:55] <recon_lap> segf4ult: yes, and it's been a giant pita so far. admittedly most wounds self inflicted.
[15:55] <C_minus> ioria, I don't know what you mean about GRUB. The computer in question currently has Windows.
[15:56] <ioria> C_minus when you boot lubuntu, i mean
[15:56] <recon_lap> now it's telling me that i've got a invalid signature.
[15:56] <TJ-> !info ddpt | segf4ult
[15:57] <segf4ult> TJ-: Awesome :) seems there's also a Trusty release still available
[15:57] <TJ-> !info ddpt trusty | segf4ult
[15:57] <segf4ult> TJ-: I'll check it out :)
[15:57] <recon_lap> and wtf is it with blank screens and booting, they are not help full
[15:58] <TJ-> segf4ult: best to read its manual "man ddpt" to be sure you don't create a backup you cannot restore!
[15:58] <DevNope> I must compile Banshee from source !
[15:58] <DevNope> autogen.sh hang on: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16159518/
[16:00] <TJ-> recon_lap: black-screens are usually the result of the driver not correctly supporting kernel modesetting, and require the "nomodeset" kernel parameter to work around.
[16:01] <DevNope> What can I do?
[16:01] <DeM0nFiRe> I was tailing the kern.log while the flickering happened, and indeed there were no logs coming at the same time
[16:01] <abhinav--> just installed 16.04 and then installed nvidia proprietary driver, now I am stuck in a login loop :(
[16:01] <recon_lap> TJ-: yes, I've been trying to find where to edit grub. but I'm nearly and disk wiping stage as this is just too awkward.
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> DevNope: apt-file search Mono.Posix.dll
[16:02] <TJ-> DeM0nFiRe: that's a shame, always the easiest thing if it does. Try checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log (the X server log)
[16:02] <recon_lap> and/at*
[16:02] <DevNope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16165229/
[16:03] <DevNope> But I don't know what I must change that the compiler set to the right path
[16:03] <C_minus> I found a help screen explaining boot parameters. ioria: it seems that "boot :" prompt is where I can specify parameters that might be needed on certain hardware. it gives the example "boot: install vga=771 noapic nlapic". What can I type in order to try lubuntu without installing?
[16:03] <SchrodingersScat> DevNope: short would be sudo apt-get build-dep banshee
[16:03] <TJ-> recon_lap: usually, hold down shift from power-on until GRUB shows its menu... once there, highlight the entry you want to change and press 'E' to edit it, navigate down to the line "linux ..." and append kernel parameters (e.g. " nomodeset") then press Ctrl+X or F10 to immediately boot with those changes
[16:03] <DeM0nFiRe> Sure I will check that
[16:03] <DevNope> http://banshee.fm/download/development/
[16:04] <SchrodingersScat> DevNope: build-dep pulls the dependencies needed to actually build a package
[16:04] <DevNope> I have done all
[16:04] <ioria> C_minus i always used f6 or 'e' to edit the kernel boot line ...
[16:04] <TJ-> DevNope: if you're building from source you have to ensure all the correct versions of the  build dependencies are installed
[16:04] <DevNope> the  dependencies are all installe
[16:04] <DevNope> d
[16:05] <TJ-> ioria: C_minus system is booting in ISO9660/El Torito mode so it uses the isolinux bootloader. Many older PCs do that with USB devices, treat them as ISO9660 media not as mass storage devices
[16:05] <recon_lap> TJ-: currently I'm just getting a blank screen afterthe bios post screen.
[16:05] <TJ-> recon_lap: you should hold down shift before it gets to that point and that should get you into GRUB's boot menu
[16:05] <C_minus> what parameter is "nomodeset" a value for?
[16:06] <ioria> TJ- if irc that option is available also on cd/dvd
[16:06] <zschni> Hello, I would like to ask some questions about file sharing with samba, it doesn't work properly for me on xenial xerus
[16:06] <DeM0nFiRe> Dont see anything relevant in xorg log either
[16:06] <k1l> C_minus: its a kernel mode. for xorg
[16:07] <recon_lap> TJ-: ok, got to the grub cfg screen, it's already using nomodeset
[16:07] <TJ-> ioria: the ISO images are hybrid (hence called ISO). they're primarily bootable ISO9660 (using El Torito spec), but they also have an msdos MBR partition table and a GPT partition table pointing to GRUB, and an EFI-SP pointing to GRUB
[16:08] <ioria> oh
[16:08] <TJ-> recon_lap: OK, now edit the "linux ..." line and add " init=/bin/bash" then press Ctrl+X to boot it... that'll start bash but no init system at all
[16:08] <C_minus> Incidentally, when I type in the example given (i.e. boot: install vga=normal) it returns "Could not find kernel image: install"
[16:09] <recon_lap> TJ-: never mind, that was the grub cfg for the recovery mode boot
[16:10] <recon_lap> Yaaa, it boots !!!
[16:12] <recon_lap> thx everyone for the help. just took me so long to get around to adding nomodeset to the boot cmd. now, now to save that change
[16:13] <DevNope> I don't konw what I have to change that ./configure take the right Path for mono in banshee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16167552/
[16:13] <DevNope> The Linbk is from configure
[16:27] <sl4ck> .
[16:37] <segf4ult> :) hurray, small images
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[16:39] <segf4ult> Instead of distributing a 1.8GB image, I can send someone a 635MB image now ^^
[16:39] <TJ-> segf4ult: which tool did you end up using?
[16:41] <segf4ult> TJ-: I ended up just using dd, reading 16GB, truncating it to the partition end, then resized the partitions and truncated again :)
[16:42] <TJ-> segf4ult: ahhhh... the hard way!
[16:42] <segf4ult> TJ-: it was kind of easy ^^;
[16:42] <mr_lou> Hello. How do I write this to make it work with bash? old=printf %06d $f
[16:42] <segf4ult> TJ-: reading the ddpt man-page turned out to be quite an exercise for my weary eyes ^^;
[16:44] <segf4ult> mr_lou: what is it you want to do exactly?
[16:47] <segf4ult> TJ-: Turns out I can skip a few steps in my process even o.O
[16:48] <segf4ult> TJ-: I can mount the image on a loop-device, probe the partitions and then use resize2fs to shrink the last fs to the minimum size ^^
[16:48] <white_magic> does anyone here know which program is used in raspbian debian (for raspberry pi) to automatically mount usb drives?
[16:48] <k1l> white_magic: ask #raspbian
[16:48] <segf4ult> white_magic: I think raspbian uses udev for automatic device rules
[16:49] <segf4ult> white_magic: but then, as k1l said, #raspbian might know a bit more about it :)
[16:50] <white_magic> thanks guys, will try there
[16:50] <TJ-> white_magic: udisks
[16:51] <Village> Where be best ask about router ssh connection problems?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> Village  begin here
[16:54] <Village> MonkeyDust, I try connect ssh to router (TP-LINK TL-WR841N) then i enter login and pass and get - server refused to allocate pty. What's can be..?
[16:55] <TJ-> Village: try "ssh -t ..." or even "ssh -tt ..."
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> Village  ssh -t emulates a terminal
[16:56] <Village> hm, from what command line, i was try with putty
[16:57] <Village> ?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> Village  so the actual issue is, you don't know how to use putty
[16:58] <Village> MonkeyDust, i know how to use putty,.. but where at putty you can enter -t or -tt?
[16:58] <TJ-> Village: "man putty"
[16:59] <Village> i use it from windows.. putty.exe
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> does putty have a man page? i thought it was a windows app
[16:59] <TJ-> Village: that's winputty
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> Village  explore all the putty options, find out what's where, where you have to enter commands etc
[16:59] <V7> How to play SWF files ?
[16:59] <TJ-> !info putty | MonkeyDust
[16:59] <V7> Not in browser
[16:59] <V7> Ubuntu 14.04
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> i learn every day
[17:00] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: :p
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> :)
[17:00] <TJ-> And it takes -T / -t respectively just like ssh
[17:00] <C_minus> TJ- I made a fresh live usb stick, on a different stick, from a different download. Same problems. "Check disk" takes me to a blank screen for infinity.
[17:01] <Village> http://www.putty.org/
[17:01] <TJ-> Village: your question is best asked in the #windows channel, or the winputty forums. I'm sure someone must have asked it before
[17:01] <Village> So let my look where i can set -t
[17:01] <Village> Ok, whank you guys for trying help
[17:01] <TJ-> C_minus: hmmmm, well... earlier I wondered if you were trying to boot a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit CPU, but even then the kernel's bootstrap 32-bit code reports that so you'd see something
[17:02] <C_minus> No I downloaded the 32 bit version
[17:02] <TJ-> C_minus: which makes me wonder if the PC has a buggy BIOS; they are known, and they end up causing the wrong device to be read from when the boot-loader asks it to read sectors from the device into memory
[17:03] <C_minus> TJ- could be, the computer's a piece of junk. I can't even change anything in the BIOS because someone else set a password on it
[17:03] <TJ-> C_minus: this usually only rears its head when you've manually selected the boot device one-time. Sometimes, if this is the cause, entering BIOS setup and changing the saved boot-order so the USB device is first can work around that issue. Then you have to remember to change it back once the OS is installed.
[17:04] <C_minus> TJ- see my earlier message. no such luck. instead every time i power on, i'm hitting F12 to see a boot menu
[17:06] <El_Capitano> Darn! Ubuntu crashed on me again!
[17:06] <squinty> C_minus, http://www.howtogeek.com/131623/how-to-clear-your-computers-cmos-to-reset-bios-settings/   or similar pages via google
[17:07] <TJ-> C_minus: so that shoots down that workaround!
[17:07] <TJ-> C_minus: there's some secret hot-keys that *may* help. When the PC starts, whilst you still see BIOS messages onscreen, press and *hold down* the Ctrl key until the boot menu shows, then select your choice, see if that helps. You must continue holding down Ctrl from before the boot-loader is read until you see the menu though
[17:07] <TJ-> C_minus: "boot menu" being the  Lubuntu menu
[17:08] <effectnet> woo!
[17:10] <xpheres> hello
[17:10] <xpheres> what was the developer channel for ubuntu?
[17:10] <El_Capitano> ubuntu-dev?
[17:10] <xpheres> thanks
[17:11] <TJ-> C_minus: to reset the BIOS passwords: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=832
[17:11] <TJ-> xpheres: #ubuntu-devel
[17:12] <xpheres> thanks
[17:14] <C_minus> TJ- thanks. I'm actually procrastinating from studying (I wanted the old PC to play music while I worked, so I wanted to rejuvinate it with a lite linux distro) and it's just totally overtaken my studying. Playing with screwdrivers would be taking it too far!
[17:15] <TJ-> C_minus: usually no more than 5 minutes, it used to be a common operation to perform. Identify the jumper, remove, power-on, power-off, put jumper back, done
[17:15] <agronholm> recon_lap: follow-up from yesterday: both servers are now happily booting via UEFI
[17:15] <agronholm> just had to use ext4 for the root drive
[17:15] <agronholm> apparently XFS is not supported in UEFI mode with grub
[17:16] <recon_lap> agronholm: haa, ok. glad you worked it out.
[17:16] <C_minus> TJ- I shouldn't even be doing this! But the constant crackling while music played was driving me crazy, so I abandoned my revision and set about making bootable USB sticks. I'd better leave before I get roped into something else. Thanks fellas.
[17:17] <xpheres> I can not compile for arm anymore, I get the error that policy is in debug mode or something like that
[17:17] <xpheres> anyone knows how to solve that?
[17:17] <recon_lap> agronholm: got my system back in shape too.
[17:17] <agronholm> recon_lap: what was the prob there?
[17:18] <recon_lap> agronholm: my stupidity mostly , and need to add nomodeset to grub boot cmd to get the nvidia drivers working.
[17:20] <agronholm> recon_lap: I'm hoping those issues will be gone by 16.10
[17:20] <TJ-> agronholm: GRUB does support XFS, in BIOS or UEFI mode. However, if its root file-system is on XFS you may have to tell it to put the xfs module in the core.img (e.g. "grub-install --modules xfs /dev/sdX"). If you're using Secure Boot however you're at the mercy of whatever modules Canonical build into the signed GRUB core grubx64.efi.signed - I know that is missing the cryptodisk module too
[17:21] <agronholm> TJ-: yeah I figured it was something like that
[17:21] <agronholm> but I have no idea what is supported then and the installer didn't warn me
[17:21] <TJ-> agronholm: was it a Secure Boot enabled boot? if so that would be the explanation
[17:21] <agronholm> TJ-: no clue really
[17:22] <agronholm> using ext4 instead is no big deal
[17:23] <yellabs-r2> i just hope that all this great ubuntu development for the tablet, phone and tv will for sure find its way to our desktops too ..
[17:24] <yellabs-r2> just keep reminding the developers that there still is such a thing as a desktop pc that wants killer apps !
[17:25] <nkvp> hi I just installed ubuntu 16.04 only to find discrete graphics not working.
[17:25] <nkvp> lspci returns Unknown header type 7f
[17:26] <recon_lap> wtf, now I got some UEFI "Swap Main and Backup" thing running. think this will endbadly!!
[17:26] <nkvp> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AM
[17:26] <nkvp> D/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series] [1002:6840] (rev ff) (prog-if
[17:26] <nkvp>  ff)
[17:26] <nkvp>  DeviceName: Radeon HD 7670M
[17:26] <nkvp>         !!! Unknown header type 7f
[17:26] <nkvp>         Kernel driver in use: radeon
[17:26] <nkvp>         Kernel modules: radeon
[17:28] <nkvp> can anyone pls help here.. tried searching online but it appears fglrx drivers are no longer in 16.04
[17:28] <ioria> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[17:29] <nkvp> yes also came across the same page. is there any way i can get the discrete graphics card working
[17:30] <Cablegunmaster> seems harsh , and wondering what it would impact..
[17:30] <Hydr0p0nX> AMD announced they were going to drop the fglrx driver and focus on improving the open source
[17:31] <nkvp> oh
[17:31] <Cablegunmaster> Hopefully it seems to be the wise decision :)
[17:32] <recon_lap> nooo, my UEFI has just restored a non working backup for some reason. should never have let computer scientists near the BIOS. aggh
[17:32] <nkvp> currently the radeon driver seems to be running
[17:33] <nkvp> is there any known workaround for Unknown header type 7f
[17:33] <nkvp> error
[17:33] <recon_lap> now I just get a blank screen after the UEFI post screen.
[17:35] <nkvp> came across this too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-pxpress/+bug/1315928
[17:35] <nkvp> same time :)
[17:36] <Hydr0p0nX> maybe it's just ubuntu deprecating it, can't find the original article now
[17:36] <TJ-> nkvp: does the system have 2 GPUs, maybe a hybrid config?
[17:36] <nkvp> yes its hybrid.. one is intel and other amd radeon
[17:37] <recon_lap> why would UEFI restore a bloody backup with out asking for permission first!!!
[17:38] <Hydr0p0nX> recon_lap, I have 4 UEFI systems within 30 ft and none of them have done that
[17:38] <douglas_> olá
[17:39] <TJ-> nkvp: The reason for the error message is that one of the GPUs is currently disabled (the AMD) so trying to probe its PCI config is failing... it may be possible to get around it by either changing the system's BIOS/firmware GPU config to enable it, or to use whatever switching tool is recommended for AMD hybrids to enable it
[17:39] <TJ-> recon_lap: backup of what? and what have you been doing?
[17:39] <recon_lap> Hydr0p0nX: new one for me too, never seen anything like it before
[17:40] <nkvp> TJ: oh ok let me recheck
[17:40] <recon_lap> TJ-: I was trying to get the ubuntu boot menu up, pressed several keys, then a UEFI screen appeared saying it was restoring backup with a OK button
[17:40] <douglas_> helo
[17:40] <recon_lap> TJ-: now I have only one boot device to pick and that one is not working
[17:41] <TJ-> recon_lap: "Swap Main and Backup" means the firmware image itself was swapped to the backup because the primary was corrupted. Have you been installing a firmware upgrade recently?
[17:41] <recon_lap> TJ-: not to my knowledge
[17:42] <TJ-> recon_lap: sounds like those keys you pressed randomly entered UEFI setup and chose the 'switch firmware image' function. Start the system and enter firmware setup immediately and look for the option, probably on the boot menu
[17:42] <V7> So ... how I should play SWF file ?
[17:43] <ubuntu097> Hello all! I am curious about btrfs raid 5/6 and was reading these pages: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID56 and http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-03-23_Btrfs-Raid5-Status.html - as they both seem to suggest that raid5/6 is not ready for prime time, however, we in the 4.x kernels now and I am wondering if this info is out of date and RAID 5/6 is fine or not? where can I get current intelligence on its readin
[17:43] <hfp> I am using this command to backup my system after all: `tar -cpf /mnt/storage/backups/`date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S"`_downloader_backup.tar --directory=/ --exclude=proc --exclude=sys --exclude=dev/pts --exclude=media --exclude=srv --exclude=mnt .` -- It works and I understand it except for the final `.` The man page says it is pathname (I think) but doesn't explain what pathname is. Any pointers?
[17:43] <douglas_> hi
[17:43] <TJ-> hfp: "." means current directory, as in $PWD or 'pwd'
[17:44] <ubuntu097> any ideas?
[17:44] <hfp> TJ-: SO it means it backs up only the current directory? If I wanted to backup everything I should replace it with `/`?
[17:44] <TJ-> hfp: you got it
[17:44] <hfp> TJ-: But what about `--directory=/` earlier on? The backups are over 2GB and I run them when I'm in ~, 2GB is the size of my system more or less
[17:45] <hfp> My ~ is much less than 2GB
[17:46] <ubuntu097> Hello all! I am curious about btrfs raid 5/6 and was reading these pages: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID56 and http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-03-23_Btrfs-Raid5-Status.html - as they both seem to suggest that raid5/6 is not ready for prime time, however, we in the 4.x kernels now and I am wondering if this info is out of date and RAID 5/6 is fine or not? where can I get current intelligence on its readin
[17:46] <TJ-> hfp: you can leave off the "." when you've got "--directory"
[17:46] <hfp> TJ-: Hmmm, if I leave the `.` out I get: `tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive`
[17:52] <geirha> yeah, with -C/--directory, you still need to provide a list of files to archive
[17:52] <TJ->  hfp oh, I thought you'd got a list with include but they're all excludeS
[17:53] <TJ-> hfp: so, you need to provide a list, so it changes directory to / then you say files = . so it takes everything in /
[17:56] <TJ-> hfp: if you only want files from the root file-system itself, instead of all those excludes, you might be able to use "--one-file-system"
[17:56] <nkvp> TJ-: I just tried checking BIOS settings but I was not able to find an option related to graphics. sudo grep -i switcheroo /boot/config-* gives VGA_SWITCHEROO as y, but on trying echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch, i
[17:56] <recon_lap> UEFI really wants me to keep reinstalling my OS for some reason!!!
[17:56] <recon_lap> agggh!!!
[17:56] <nkvp> i'm getting 1:DIS: :DynOff:0000:01:00.0
[17:57] <TJ-> UEFI doesn't care about OSes; only boot menu entries
[17:57] <TJ-> nkvp: I think you've discovered some incompatibility in the drivers/tools
[17:58] <V7> GUYS !!
[17:59] <recon_lap> TJ-: and none of the boot options I have now do anything. can only boot with USB
[17:59] <hfp> TJ-: Yes, I want to backup everything from /, but not things that are on other filesystems. I want to have a tar that I can just extract to a drive and boot from it, should I screw my system up
[17:59] <danny_> Links from outside applications don't open in Chromium. I click them from the application(such as IRC clinet), and it opens a new Chromium window, but does not open the URL. If i repeat the clicking, it will continue opening new blank Chromium windows.
[17:59] <nkvp> oh.. Thanks a lot TJ... let me try older drivers and see if its working..
[18:00] <TJ-> recon_lap: is there not an option in firmware setup to add/delete boot menu entries?
[18:02] <recon_lap> TJ-: not that I can see.
[18:02] <torpet> When I select to install mp3 codecs and Flash player during installation but don't have internet connection, does that mean ubuntu-restricted-extras cannot be fetched from the internet and will thus not be installed?
[18:03] <V7> How I could open swf file on Ubuntu 14.04 xD ???
[18:04] <k1l> torpet: yes
[18:04] <de-facto> V7 with pepperflash + chromium?
[18:04] <recon_lap> TJ-: only thing I can think to do now is boot to USB and mount the UEFI partition and see if I can work out whats wrong.
[18:04] <de-facto> torpet you can install those later too
[18:04] <V7> I haven't Chrome
[18:05] <V7> I have Opera and Firefox
[18:05] <torpet> de-facto: I am glad it hasn't been installed even though i clicked it. it would have pulled a lot of crap i do not need.
[18:05] <V7> Does this app open in Firefox ?
[18:05] <V7> I'm asking about pepperflash /...
[18:05] <V7> http://askubuntu.com/questions/562271/can-i-use-chromes-pepper-flash-with-firefox
[18:06] <de-facto> Firefox uses a very old and api for flash, many vulnerabilities and the flash player is outdated and wont get any updates
[18:06] <torpet> Is Ubuntu 16.04 the recommended version for now? I have read a lot about people waiting for the .1 release.
[18:06] <TJ-> recon_lap: does the UEFI not have a built-in EFI shell? if so you can use that
[18:06] <V7> torpet: idk ... I'm using 14.04 and np
[18:07] <squinty> V7, install pepperflashplugin-nonfree  or take a look at http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[18:08] <wafflejock> torpet, if you're doing a new install 16.04 is the current LTS option but the upgrades to existing 14.04 users doesn't get pushed till the 16.04.1 release, believe I saw July 21st
[18:08] <Kurogane> Hello, i'm having problem to access as root, i change PermitRootLogin without-password to yes and restart, still can't login any advise? ubuntu 14.04
[18:08] <TheMarius> i installed chrome .. its allmost a must .. it has flash.. and support for netflix etc.. no others have that
[18:10] <recon_lap> TJ-: no, nothing like that , going to look for that backup of the UEFI partition I made
[18:11] <RalphBa> hi all
[18:14] <RalphBa> short question because of btrfs. created a snapshot before I've done something critical -> done my things -> booted from usb -> renamed @ to something and snapshot to @ -> booted ubuntu -> saw everything is fine, so I want to remove the former @ now colled something without to reboot from usb. well, how can I access the root of my mounted @ subvolume?
[18:14] <RalphBa> so i can remove something :D
[18:17] <deadmund> Is there any pyqt5 package in the repos for ubuntu 16.04 ?  Since it's running plasma 5 I'm surprised that I'm having a hard time finding pyqt5 support
[18:19] <akik> deadmund: try python-pyqt5
[18:19] <corkey> hello everyone
[18:19] <deadmund> akik: A-ha!  Name change.  Thanks.
[18:23] <akik> deadmund: there's also python3-pyqt5. did you not search them with apt?
[18:24] <deadmund> akik: I did not :(
[18:24] <deadmund> akik: I just tried tab-completion
[18:25] <akik> edna mp3 server wants some python packages for ogg vorbis support and they're also named python-something
[18:25] <akik> that's how i remembered it
[18:25] <white_magic> hi, does anyone know if it's possible to prevent a user from navigating their home share when they authenticate to Samba?
[18:26] <KC4LZN> I can connect from my xubuntu 12.04 laptop to my Raspberry Pi via VNC on my local network. I can ssh via remote with no problem but I cannot connect ssh tunneling remotely. Any ideas.
[18:30] <leonarth> hello everyone, I restart `lsyncd` and I get this error, anyone knows what could I do? Can't find much on google
[18:30] <leonarth> Sun May  1 20:27:47 2016 Error: Terminating since out of inotify watches.
[18:30] <leonarth> Consider increasing /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
[18:36] <akik> leonarth: it asks you to increase the number for max_user_watches. you can do it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:37] <Guy1524> is there way to remotely open a graphical programming that uses the host's GPU?
[18:38] <leonarth> yes akik but I'd like to know why it ran out of user watches, maybe I could decrease the amount of watches needed instead of bilndly increase the defaults
[18:38] <leonarth> trying to read about what these watches are
[18:39] <akik> leonarth: thank you btw for this lsyncd tip
[18:39] <leonarth> lol :)
[18:40] <Jordan_U> Guy1524: VNC. It won't be a great experience for a game, but nothing non local will. What is hour end goal?
[18:40] <akik> leonarth: does it handle big updates to the local end
[18:40] <dbz2k> does Ubuntu keep chromium updated on lts?
[18:42] <Guy1524> Jordan_U: I am not trying to game
[18:42] <Guy1524> I just need it because my remote machine doesn't have vulkan support
[18:42] <Guy1524> and I want to develop on my laptop
[18:42] <leonarth> akik define `big updates`
[18:44] <Guy1524> so with vnc, can I just open a program remotely with vnc and it will stream the window to me like ssh -X?
[18:46] <kdp> I recently installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop and it changed the default fonts installed by unity. Can anyone tell me what they were originally? (If you open unity-tweak-tool and click on fonts it will show you.) I'm hoping to find out the following: default font, monospace font, document font, and window title font. I would really appreciate if anyone
[18:46] <kdp>  could check those out on a default install!
[18:47] <OerHeks> kdp you could check yourself, logout, change DE, and login
[18:47] <TJ-> kdp: if you create another user, or use the Guest account, and select the Unity session, you can check yourself
[18:47] <kdp> Ah- I didn't think to login as a guest! I'll give that a shot
[18:49] <recon_lap> used boot-repair and now I can boot again
[18:49] <kdp> I just gave it a shot and unfortunately it still shows the new defaults installed by gnome. (For example, "Cantarell Regular" as the default font). Does anyone mind taking a look on their install?
[18:50] <akik> leonarth: for example 2 gigabytes of small files
[18:50] <leonarth> akik yes, no problem at all
[18:51] <leonarth> I'm even syncing .git folders for big projects with thousands of commits
[18:51] <leonarth> doesn't buldge
[18:51] <kdp> Also, clicking on "Restore defaults" doesn't restore the original unity fonts...
[18:56] <ubuntu097> Hello all! I am curious about btrfs raid 5/6 and was reading these pages: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID56 and http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-03-23_Btrfs-Raid5-Status.html - as they both seem to suggest that raid5/6 is not ready for prime time, however, we in the 4.x kernels now and I am wondering if this info is out of date and RAID 5/6 is fine or not? where can I get current intelligence on its readin
[18:59] <liam> i have ubuntu running on a macbook pro 11,1 and I'm missing gestures in the trackpad can anyone help with this thanks
[19:03] <J0hnD03ii> who's an op here?
[19:03] <J0hnD03ii> !op | can you message me please
[19:04] <nhyk> is there any easy way to get my window minimized when i click the icon on the left? (Standard Ubuntu Installation, 16.04) .... just installed it today, still a noob
[19:05] <OerHeks> You might want to join #ubuntu-ops too, J0hnD03ii , but they should be triggered by now
[19:05] <vivek__> hello guyz
[19:05] <vivek__> i am trying squid servers
[19:06] <vivek__> i can access http sites but not https
[19:06] <vivek__> the error on chrome is ERR_TUNNEL_CONNECTION_FAILED
[19:06] <vivek__> can any one help  plzzz!
[19:08] <J0hnD03ii> OerHeks, thanks
[19:08] <ioria> think it's  related to SSL ...
[19:11] <vivek__> the squid.conf is @ http_port 192.168.1.8:8080
[19:11] <vivek__> dns_v4_first on
[19:11] <vivek__> ## general options
[19:11] <vivek__> cache_mgr not_to_be_disturbed
[19:11] <vivek__> client_db on
[19:11] <vivek__> collapsed_forwarding on
[19:12] <vivek__> acl maxuserconn src 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.1.0/24
[19:12] <vivek__> acl limitusercon maxconn 500
[19:12] <vivek__> http_access deny maxuserconn limitusercon
[19:12] <vivek__> ## disable caching
[19:12] <vivek__> cache deny all
[19:12] <OerHeks> vivek__, don't paste like that
[19:12] <vivek__> cache_dir null /tmp
[19:13] <J0hnD03ii> so an op is here?
[19:13] <vivek__> # http_access deny !Safe_Browser
[19:13] <vivek__> ## disable ads ( //squid_adservers.html )
[19:13] <vivek__> # acl ads dstdom_regex "/etc/squid/ad_block.txt"
[19:13] <vivek__> # http_access deny ads
[19:13] <vivek__> # deny_info TCP_RESET ads
[19:13] <vivek__> ## Banned Sites
[19:14] <J0hnD03ii> stop
[19:14] <J0hnD03ii> Drone`, thanks but can you reply to me?
[19:14] <OerHeks> vivek should know this for years now
[19:14] <OerHeks> no op behind keyboard now J0hnD03ii, on this sunday
[19:14] <J0hnD03ii> was that a bot doing that ?!
[19:15] <OerHeks> Yes. 3 times flooding, kick
[19:15] <J0hnD03ii> woah :/
[19:16] <vizier> i want to setup a vpn on my home server and i was wanting to know if i can still remotely access that server and how that actually works
[19:17] <AuroraAvenue> How do I add this trunk ? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team/ubuntutv/trunk/files
[19:17] <vizier> do myself or others access the server through the masked ip address... some kind of port forwarding must come into play right
[19:18] <AuroraAvenue> How do I add this trunk ? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team/ubuntutv/trunk/files
[19:20] <ioria> !info subversion
[19:28] <ubuntnoob> Hello, I've just completed a netinstall of 16.04 on my Macbook Air 4,2. During the install I was able to complete everything using wireless, but now that installation is complete and I'm booted in, I can no longer use it. Help?
[19:29] <romare> [22:16:24] <romare> I just made a bootable usb using rufus on windows for ubuntu gnome
[19:29] <romare> [22:16:43] <romare> I installed the OS but I had issues about installing apps
[19:29] <romare> [22:16:55] <romare> I had the error saying like I have broken packages
[19:29] <romare> [22:17:20] <romare> where do you think I failed at?
[19:29] <romare> [22:17:37] <romare> I didn't change anything on rufus
[19:29] <romare> [22:17:55] <romare> talking about 16.04 LTS btw
[19:30] <romare> sorry
[19:30] <romare> can somebody help?
[19:30] <jonatan> romare: you have probuly done nothing wrong
[19:30] <ioria> ubuntnoob, cat /etc/network/interfaces  and maybe you need to set up a wpa_supplicant.conf
[19:30] <recon_lap> romare: you should probably look at the ubuntu networking trouble shooting guide
[19:31] <romare> recon_lap it happened after 3 clean installs
[19:32] <ubuntnoob> I see 'auto lo' & 'iface lo inet loopback' ioria
[19:32] <recon_lap> romare: thats why you should look at the trouble shooting guide, reinstalling not going to fix the issue
[19:32] <ioria> ubuntnoob, did you install a DE ?
[19:32] <romare> okidokipoki
[19:33] <ubuntnoob> I cannot, because I do not have wireless working and Macbook Air does not have an ethernet port
[19:33] <ubuntnoob> But I was able to install and use wireless
[19:33] <ubuntnoob> I want to install i3
[19:33] <akik> romare: has rufus worked you before?
[19:34] <recon_lap> romare: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[19:34] <romare> akik, yes. I've maybe used it for 15 different distros in my process of finding the decent one that just werkz
[19:35] <romare> recon_lap, I know you insist on that will be the solution but I only had this problem with ubuntu gnome
[19:35] <ioria> ubuntnoob, with mini.iso you have to configure /etc/network/interface , check if you have wpasupplicant installed
[19:35] <OerHeks> ubuntnoob, i think this 14.04 solution works for you too, download 2 packages onto usb and transfer, and install >> http://askubuntu.com/a/592666
[19:35] <x3464> Hi folks.  I have an nvidia GTX 970 and I can't seem to get beyond the login screen in 16.04.  I've installed the drivers that are suggested in ubuntu-devices drivers.  Still can't get past the login.
[19:36] <akik> romare: you'll be in problems if during the install it complained about broken packages
[19:37] <akik> doesn't the install stop in that case of broken packages?
[19:37] <romare> akik, no
[19:37] <recon_lap> romare: up to you, but just saying my wifi is not working not likely to get you any answers
[19:39] <romare> but for example I installed 14.04 with shitty gnome 3.10 afterwards and had no problems. but I did it just to try.
[19:39] <Bashing-om> x3464: The driver install correctly ? Can you, at the login screen activate a console interface - ctl+alt+F1 - ? Post to a pastebin site ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[19:39] <romare> I don't want 14.04 it sucks
[19:39] <ubuntnoob> Thanks, ioria and OerHeks - I'll check those options now and get back here
[19:39] <recon_lap> romare: like you could use lshw | grep network to see what wifi card you have and if it's been detected
[19:40] <john-k> Hello. I am having problems installing wine. http://pastebin.com/R8gbRiyH
[19:40] <romare> recon_lap, I can assure you that it's definitely not about my wifi card.
[19:41] <recon_lap> romare: so, can you tell use what wifi card it is and what driver it's loading?
[19:41] <romare> SEE! john-k is having the same problem!
[19:41] <recon_lap> romare: "lshw -c network" is better command
[19:41] <romare> recon_lap, I have a thinkpad t410
[19:42] <x3464> Bashing-om: It installed the driver correctly.  I tried booting with nomodeset.  I'll try to run that command but I have to do it in recovery mode.  So far I can't get a usable UI.
[19:43] <romare> this channel is too damn crowded. you should open channels for each versions, lol
[19:44] <Bashing-om> x3464: From recovery mode, not much help in this case as loading the proprietary driver is defeated - the fall back driver is loaded .
[19:45] <akik> romare: you can remove the messages about joins and parts and only keep the messages. /lastlog also lets you retrieve old messages
[19:46] <x3464> Bashing-om: I'll try nouveau.blacklist=1 in the grub line and see what happens.  Something is mightily messed up :)
[19:47] <greensea> ciao
[19:47] <Bashing-om> x3464: Not a good thing to try aribrary things . See if you can boot to console from the login screen .. my best advise at this point to try and find the fault .
[19:48] <fbbf> http://imgur.com/z0YDgsT
[19:49] <x3464> Bashing-om: Editing the grub line at boot is non-permanent so I'll take my chances.
[19:49] <Bashing-om> x3464: :)
[19:55] <Dumle29> Hi guys. I'm trying to add my uni printer on ubuntu 16.04, but it doesn't look at all like the guide\
[19:56] <Dumle29> All I want to do is manually add the printer, with a manual address and all, but it will only allow me to search for one
[19:59] <TJ-> Dumle29: use you web browser; goto http://localhost:631 to use the CUPS web administration service
[19:59] <TJ-> Dumle29: then choose manage printers, and add, you can add by URL, or search, and specify which protocol to use
[20:01] <Dumle29> thanks :)
[20:01] <Dumle29> seems the old printer software was much better in this regard, as the snaps from the guide on the page has screenshots from that :/
[20:01] <Dumle29> There is such a thing as too simple
[20:02] <TJ-> Dumle29: yes, many GUI elements have bee dumbed down to the detriment of the experience, in the supposed pursuit of 'not confusing users'
[20:02] <Dumle29> sigh
[20:02] <recon_lap> ok, so I loaded the nvidia driver in 16.04 and now I only get one screen size 1024x768.
[20:02] <hjugd> HI guys
[20:02] <Casablanca> hello there
[20:03] <TJ-> I generally find the CLI mmuch more usable than any GUI element these days. GUI seems to just frustrate and get in the way of finding what I need
[20:03] <hjugd> HOw do I set the settings so that when I close the lid of my laptop, "it does nothing"?
[20:03] <hjugd> I cant find this setting anywhere
[20:03] <Dumle29> TJ-: Exactly. And it's not because they are too complex. Rather the opposite :/
[20:03] <BCB> Hi.  I'm trying to set rewrite rule without using .htaccess file.  Where to I put the rewrite directives?  Thank you.
[20:03] <TJ-> recon_lap: that sounds like a case of only the standard VESA SVGA modes being used, which hints the driver is not in fact operating, or else the EDID from the monitor has not been received
[20:03] <ali__> hi guys
[20:04] <ali__> I just installed ubuntu
[20:04] <ali__> do I need to add ssd or no
[20:04] <ali__> please advice
[20:04] <ali__> coz ssd is quite expensive
[20:04] <Dumle29> TJ-: If I don't see an option for SAMBA shared printers :/
[20:04] <TJ-> BCB: For apache2? In the site definition file, under /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[20:04] <BCB> TJ-: what should the file be called
[20:04] <akik> ali__: it's much faster but not necessary
[20:05] <BCB> rewrite.conf
[20:05] <ali__> 250 gb ssd is enough? akik
[20:05] <TJ-> Dumle29: I don't think CUPS supports samba printer shares; that would need the samba client I think
[20:05] <k1l> ali__: you can use regular hdds if you want. but the performance is faster on ssds. that is for every OS.
[20:05] <BCB> TJ-: rewrite.conf ?
[20:05] <TJ-> BCB: filenames are administrator specific; you'd have to add the directives inside the VirtualHost directive for your site
[20:06] <ali__> is i5 enough for development softwares? on ubuntu
[20:06] <ali__> for laptop
[20:06] <BCB> TJ-: ok thanks
[20:06] <TJ-> BCB:  this shows where the directive is valid: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_rewrite.html
[20:06] <Dumle29> TJ-: hmm. Seems the old ubuntu supported it http://i.imgur.com/XQbePgS.png
[20:06] <TJ-> ali__: depends what you want to do but for running soure-code editors and doing builds, yes
[20:07] <ali__> TJ coz I got laptop with i5. should I change to i7 for extra bucks?
[20:07] <ali__> is it worth it?
[20:07] <TJ-> Dumle29: in the background that probably used samba though, not cups. I don't have SMB/CIFS protocols on my network so I don't know if CUPS might support it, but I've never seen it mentioned as an option
[20:08] <Casablanca> goodbye and have a good day
[20:08] <Dumle29> Hm ok. I'll have a look around. Ubuntu seems to mention that CUPS supports SMB, but I don't see it. will tell you what I find
[20:09] <akik> TJ-: again, not necessary to buy an i7
[20:09] <TJ-> Dumle29: I don't see it listed as an option under Add Printer/Other Network Printers
[20:09] <akik> oops, i meant ali__
[20:09] <ali__> so all I need is
[20:10] <ali__> i5 and ssd and ram right?
[20:10] <ali__> akik,
[20:10] <TJ-> ali__: more RAM is better than more CPU, after a certain point
[20:10] <TJ-> ali__: 8GiB will be great for extensive code editing
[20:10] <ali__> I have 12 gb
[20:10] <ali__> of ram
[20:10] <ali__> 4 + 8
[20:10] <TJ-> ali__: even if you're using an IDE and working with the Linux kernel source
[20:11] <ali__> so I certainly dont need i7 right
[20:11] <ali__> i5 should be enough
[20:12] <ali__> guys I have just installed ubuntu on my laptop
[20:12] <ali__> without dual boot
[20:13] <ali__> so do you recommend me to install windows alongside it?
[20:13] <\9> well the obvious question is if you need windows?
[20:13] <TJ-> ali__: as before, it depends on what *you* intend to use it for and what tools you require
[20:13] <Bashing-om> ali__: If it boots you can code on it .. ( remembers the days of assembly on a trash-80).
[20:13] <ali__> I wanna be a linux user
[20:13] <ali__> for full time
[20:14] <\9> it's your choice
[20:14] <ali__> but I am afraid if I will ever need windows applications
[20:14] <Dumle29> TJ-: Seems I needed the smbclient package
[20:14] <TheMarius> ali__, dont worry theres allways one you cant do without
[20:15] <TheMarius> but thanks to wine im able to use dreamweaver
[20:15] <ali__> did I make right choice by switching to ubuntu from windows
[20:15] <TheMarius> so now im windows free
[20:15] <ali__> for full time
[20:15] <MannyLNJ> [Queston] Looking for guide that will show me how to enable VNC so I can view my normal 14.04 desktop without installing a second windows manager
[20:15] <TheMarius> ali__, i did it... except dreamweaver i dont miss anything on windows
[20:15] <TJ-> Dumle29: the only context I'm aware of CUPS and Samba working together, is when Samba offers all the local CUPS printers to Windows clients.
[20:15] <ali__> wow TheMarius
[20:16] <ali__> that gives me hope
[20:16] <TheMarius> steam
[20:16] <TheMarius> ups
[20:16] <recon_lap> ali__: only you can answer than :)
[20:16] <recon_lap> that*
[20:16] <TheMarius> steams linux inventory is getting pretty big too.. 1500 games + various apps now
[20:16] <Dumle29> TJ-: Installing mentioned pacakage added a "windows samba share" option to the cups internet panel :)
[20:16] <TJ-> Dumle29: oh, wow, thanks for letting me know
[20:16] <ali__> People say programmers prefer linux thats why I wanted to give it a try
[20:17] <TheMarius> linux is popular among programmers yes .. im not a programmer so dont ask me why
[20:17] <ali__> TheMarius, do you think its worth getting SSD?
[20:17] <TheMarius> however theyre very desktop oriented and linux desktop annihilates all competition
[20:18] <TheMarius> idk ... i have it, its allmost standard
[20:18] <TJ-> Dumle29: ahh yes, cups-daemon package has a Suggests: smbclient
[20:18] <ali__> TheMarius, how about i5 laptop
[20:18] <ali__> is that enough
[20:18] <TheMarius> should do it just fine
[20:19] <TJ-> ali__: SSD is always worth it - the speedup and consistency, lower power, less heat, no chance of damage through dropping, etc
[20:19] <recon_lap> ali__: ssd is nice, but you only get one drive on a laptop and SSD drives tend to be small
[20:19] <TheMarius> i run ubuntu mate .. it doesnt exactly demand much of my hardware
[20:19] <TJ-> recon_lap: I wouldn't call 500GB small unless you waste space!
[20:20] <ali__> recon_lap, yea exactly thats why I am confused
[20:20] <TheMarius> i have 6 TB avaliable and im on a desktop
[20:20] <recon_lap> TJ-: it is if it's you primary machine. music and video can fill that up fast
[20:20] <\LSD> Hi TJ-
[20:20] <TheMarius> this would make a descent server.. for what though
[20:21] <recon_lap> TJ-: not to mention all those IDE's and programs
[20:21] <ali__> recon_lap, u use hdd?
[20:21] <TJ-> recon_lap: i have a 2-in-1 tablet/laptop with a 128GB SSD soldered in, and its got 100GiB free even with a ton of stuff already on it
[20:21] <TJ-> recon_lap: programmers don't need music or video
[20:21] <ali__> TJ, but like he said how about IDEs and other stuff?
[20:22] <TJ-> ali__: IDEs don't use up much space
[20:22] <recon_lap> ali__: sort of depends, is this laptop going to be your main computer, if so I'd go with a large HDD over a 500GB SSD
[20:22] <TJ-> ali__: Eclipse CDT here uses 452MB
[20:22] <recon_lap> ali__: but you could always get a large external HDD for a laptop for media.
[20:22] <ali__> I wont be gaming
[20:23] <john-k> ali, or a NAS
[20:23] <ali__> just programming
[20:23] <ali__> and vms
[20:23] <ali__> and emulators if possible
[20:23] <TJ-> external drive for spinning disks is a good idea, means your laptop has no moving parts (except maybe a fan)
[20:24] <ali__> TJ you code right?
[20:24] <TJ-> ali__: yes
[20:24] <ali__> so i5 is enough for vms and emulators (android etc.)?
[20:25] <ali__> TJ?
[20:25] <ali__> bro?
[20:25] <Exagone313> Hi, since I upgraded from wily to xenial, I can't start cinnamon desktop from lightdm. I tried to reinstall it after purging 'cinnamon*' (and reinstall cinnamon-desktop-environment), or with a new user. The only error message I found is "cannot connect to brltty at :0" in .xsession-errors, nothing in the lightdm logs. I also can't start gnome. What can I do? Thanks for your help.
[20:25] <k1l> ali__: the more power you got, the more power is there for the vms. so what is "enough" is the question what do you expect.  watch out for the cpu to have vt-d support
[20:25] <TJ-> ali__: I work on a lot of ubuntu projects so I'm constantly moving between projects, and that code and the package binaries built from it takes up no more than 30GiB and thats with many git repos too
[20:25] <john-k> didn't some i5's lack VT-x?
[20:26] <ali__> k1l, what if cpu doesn't have vt-d?
[20:26] <ali__> TJ, sounds cool. so 128 or 256 gb ssd? which one to get
[20:26] <TJ-> ali__: check the CPU specifications if you have particular requirements. Linux KVM and QEMU, VirtualBox, etc, really need hardware support (Intel VT-x) and you might want to ensure you've got VT-d (directed I/O) too
[20:26] <TJ-> ali__: larger... means less wear on average
[20:27] <k1l> ali__: ubuntu on a desktop works on 30GB. the rest it what you put on it additionally.
[20:27] <GreenDay> hello
[20:27] <GreenDay> under ubuntu crash under clementine while playing m4a files
[20:27] <GreenDay> [ 1681.177367] traps: compiz[1627] trap stack segment ip:7f0ec7dfb5fa sp:7ffd689dcb50 error:0 in libunity-core-6.0.so.9.0.0[7f0ec7d67000+133000]
[20:27] <ali__> I mean how about coding and programming. how much space is it gonna take.
[20:27] <ali__> overall
[20:27] <k1l> ali__: if the cpu doesnt support vt-d, the cpu will have to use more power just to calculate stuff for the vms
[20:27] <TJ-> ali__: so little you won't notice it
[20:28] <k1l> ali__: that depends on what you actually code.
[20:28] <k1l> ali__: if you code a little bash script: 30Gb for ubuntu + 1MB for the bash script.
[20:28] <Exagone313> By "can't", I mean that after entering credentials, it returns to the login screen after a second
[20:28] <ali__> so you would recommend how much gb?
[20:29] <ali__> of ssd
[20:29] <akik> is unity really 30 gigs after the default install?
[20:29] <TJ-> ali__: if you're going to be spending long hours on the laptop your prime concern should be a display you're confortable with (think  glossy == glare, matt == better), good keyboard, and ensuring all the hardware is fully supported by Linux, and there are no firmware/ACPI bugs
[20:29] <k1l> akik: no
[20:29] <TJ-> full desktop install with options shouldn't take more than 6GiB
[20:29] <k1l> akik: that is what a i suggest for a full blown desktop setup with lots of packages installed.
[20:30] <akik> ok, thanks
[20:30] <ali__> my laptop is dell latitude e6420
[20:30] <romare> so I just installed a new ubuntu gnome 16.04 LTS and when I want to install something, this is what I get: https://ghostbin.com/paste/u6e5h
[20:30] <TJ-> akik: I allocate 12GiB to the root file-system LV, and 6GiB to /var/ and never usually need to increase those
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> romare  sudo apt-get -f install    <-- -f means fix
[20:31] <ali__> e6420 laptop is good enough right?
[20:31] <hehnope> I noticed env vars from 14.04 to 16.04 in ~/.bashrc are no longer loaded in Xfce. Is this a bug, or was it changed?
[20:31] <TJ-> Exagone313: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log - that could be due to no 3D acceleration and therefore the compositor not functioning
[20:31] <ali__> with i5
[20:31] <romare> MonkeyDust: all 0
[20:31] <akik> ali__: perfect
[20:31] <john-k> romare: strangely similar to mine
[20:32] <john-k> romare: http://pastebin.com/R8gbRiyH
[20:32] <ali__> akik, thanks
[20:32] <ali__> so I need to upgrade ram and ssd only
[20:32] <ali__> ram I did already
[20:32] <Bashing-om> akik: /dev/sda1       4.7G  1.8G  2.7G  41% /
[20:32] <katebe> Romare: what happens when you run apt -f install
[20:32] <akik> ali__: i can say that buying a ssd was the best investment i've made in a while
[20:32] <romare> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:32] <Exagone313> TJ-: ok, I'm gonna remove it, restart lightdm, try to start cinnamon, and make a copy of the file, brb
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> romare  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[20:33] <ali__> akik, which ssd shall I get
[20:33] <ali__> and how many gbs
[20:33] <TJ-> ali__: we've already answered your questions
[20:33] <Bashing-om> akik: continued /dev/sda2       9.5G  826M  8.2G   9% /home ; /dev/sda8       4.7G  2.5G  2.0G  56% /var . Tight but works real well .
[20:33] <zacwalls> What DM does xubuntu 16.04 use?
[20:33] <akik> Bashing-om: thanks
[20:34] <ali__> TJ so I am ordering 256gb ok? please tell me. considering vms and coding on this laptop
[20:34] <romare> MonkeyDust: I don't know how to do any of those. sorry I'm new at this.
[20:34] <MannyLNJ> Afternoon.  I have an HP 1006 printer on my ubuntu system.It shows as shared but my OS X system won't see it.  Advise please
[20:34] <TJ-> zacwalls: lightdm, with the gtk-greeter
[20:34] <zacwalls> TJ-, thx
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> romare  have you never copy/pasted text?
[20:35] <hehnope> it seems like I have to use ~/.profile instead of ~/.bashrc for xubuntu GUI apps; correct? If so this is a change from 14.04 to 16.04.
[20:35] <TJ-> ali__: we're not here to tell you the specs of your laptop, we've given you advice already on what to consider. This channel is for Ubuntu issues, not general chat
[20:35] <romare> MonkeyDust: lol, ok then do I just copy it to terminal or what?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> romare  no, in a text editor of your choice
[20:36] <luvenfu> i have a problem
[20:36] <ali__> guys what are the apps to be installed on ubuntu?
[20:36] <ali__> first timer here
[20:36] <ali__> hehe
[20:36] <reisio> app1, app2, etc.
[20:36] <ali__> lool
[20:36] <luvenfu> network problem in ubuntu
[20:36] <TJ-> hehnope: ~/.profile is for login shells, whereas ~/.bashrc is for non-login shells
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> ali__  dpkg -l gives a list
[20:37] <ali__> ok cool
[20:37] <ali__> thanks MonkeyDust
[20:37] <TJ-> luvenfu: the problem is with the PC you're in IRC from, or another?
[20:38] <luvenfu> TJ-: ethernet
[20:38] <romare> MonkeyDust: so I saved it as "fixpackages" on the desktop and now what exactly?
[20:38] <luvenfu> eth0 dhclient
[20:38] <TJ-> luvenfu: what is the issue?
[20:38] <luvenfu> wired connection not working in 14.04
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> romare  make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages'
[20:38] <luvenfu> dhcp tries to get ip but never get it, it is a update problem?
[20:38] <luvenfu> never experienced that before
[20:39] <TJ-> luvenfu: how is the PC managing the network, using Network Manager ?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> romare  cd to the desktop folder first
[20:39] <CausaMortis_> hi guys, silly question perhaps but I am trying to write a provisioning bash script for vagrant but it keeps failing when I want to setup a postgresql database using initdb saying, cannot be run as root. what is weird though is that im using sudo su - postgres and calling the same initdb command SSH'd into the box and it works like a charm
[20:39] <ali__> MonkeyDust, are you a coder?
[20:39] <ali__> I wanna learn about linux :p
[20:39] <luvenfu> TJ-: yes
[20:39] <TJ-> luvenfu: has the same PC had that network interface working fine before now?
[20:39] <CausaMortis_> is it possible to do something like that in bash? sudo into the database user?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> ali__  no, i picked it up here, in this channel
[20:40] <ali__> is there any alternative to outlook?
[20:40] <ali__> for ubuntu
[20:40] <MannyLNJ> Afternoon.  I have an HP 1006 printer on my ubuntu system.It shows as shared but my OS X system won't see it.  Advise please
[20:40] <Mar0kK> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbtq1c2au0h3uc0/Screen%20Shot%202016-05-01%20at%2014.40.01.png?dl=0
[20:40] <Mar0kK> help
[20:40] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: why would you sudo into the database, you get database permission when you log into the database
[20:41] <Mar0kK> THe system is running in low-graphics mode
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> ali__  zimbra comes close, but in fact, the linux community is 'jealous' with outlook
[20:41] <luvenfu> TJ-: yes, i format my pc oftenly using 14.04 and never experienced this problem before, i had problem with wifi in ubuntu before
[20:41] <luvenfu> wifi is working
[20:41] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: the databases "root" user is different from the systems "root" user
[20:41] <ali__> man no offense to linux but it still lacks alot of great softwares
[20:41] <TJ-> luvenfu: Are you able to manually configure the wired ethernet interface ?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> ali__  so does windows
[20:42] <luvenfu> TJ-: yes, i read a lot of solveds in internet, i did everything, no progress
[20:42] <TJ-> luvenfu: things like this can often be caused by damaged ethhernet cables, or bad/bent/broken connectors
[20:42] <Dumle29> TJ-: Next problem. I can't enter login redentials :/
[20:42] <ali__> like?
[20:42] <luvenfu> TJ-: hmmmm, ethernet cable or the board? i guess it could be the cable
[20:43] <ali__> OS X seems to be the perfect blend between linux and windows.. right/
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> ali__  if you're a coder, why don't you start developping 'great software'
[20:43] <TJ-> luvenfu: always worth swapping for a known-good ethernet cable, also, check /var/log/kern.log (or dmesg) see if the ethernet link is reporting up when the cable is connected.
[20:43] <reisio> ali__: heh
[20:43] <recon_lap> ali__: as long as apple is getting a cut :)
[20:43] <reisio> ali__: evolution is a very complete outlook workalike
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> romare  keep it in the channel, so everyone can see
[20:43] <TJ-> ali__:  you mean the perfect blend of locked-down, closed source, applications?
[20:44] <tgm4883> ali__: to answer your question, outlook is available on the web
[20:44] <ali__> no wonder many developers are carrying macbooks with them
[20:44] <reisio> evolution even supports a proprietary Windows Exchange backend
[20:44] <romare> everyone can see how I suck...
[20:44]  * reisio shakes head
[20:44] <reisio> ali__: richer than they are sensible, heh
[20:44] <ali__> lol
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> romare  we were all beginners, once
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> except TJ- , he was born a wizard
[20:44] <romare> that's my only motivation.
[20:44] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, shouldnt I sudo into postgres so I can call initdb?
[20:44] <TJ-> its not the beginning thats important; its the style in which you finish :)
[20:44] <romare> so, I made the thing on gedit.
[20:45] <luvenfu> TJ-: eth0: link is not ready
[20:45] <romare> put it on desktop. now how do I do that chmod thing?
[20:45] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: err, please, don't make my head any bigger! I'm crusin' for a brusin' :D
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> romare  you should have put in your /home folder, now you have to cd
[20:45] <TJ-> luvenfu: right, that suggests to me either bad physical connections, or missing firmware
[20:45] <ali__> OS X has cool GUI thou
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> romare  so ... cd ~/Desktop ... chmod +x fixpackages
[20:46] <luvenfu> TJ-: thanks
[20:46] <romare> ok ok it's on home now. what's the command for home then?
[20:46] <TJ-> ali__: if you want to chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic - this isn't the channel for such discussions
[20:47] <lumidee> hi, what version is google earth in ubuntu?
[20:47] <TJ-> luvenfu: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" whilst unplugging/plugging might give some clue as to anything being detected
[20:47] <ali__> sorry TJ
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> romare  ok, now... chmod +x fixpackages
[20:47] <TJ-> lumidee: also conside that whatever is at the other end of the cable might be the problem, not the PC. it could just be a case of moving to another port on the switch
[20:48] <TJ-> lumidee: sorry, got the wrong nickname
[20:48] <TJ-> luvenfu: : also conside that whatever is at the other end of the cable might be the problem, not the PC. it could just be a case of moving to another port on the switch
[20:48] <romare> oh now it's happening, whatever it is
[20:48] <reisio> lumidee: some version, what's it matter?
[20:48] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: can only answer in generalities, but not much point in sudo'ing a login into a database.
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> romare  quickly hide under your chair!
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> romare  ok, what is doing
[20:49] <romare> cp: cannot stat '/var/lib/dpkg/available-old': No such file or directory
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> it*
[20:49] <Mar0kK> Can anyone tell me why it keep showing me that?
[20:49] <Mar0kK> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbtq1c2au0h3uc0/Screen%20Shot%202016-05-01%20at%2014.40.01.png?dl=0
[20:49] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: the SQL server should be running with enough privileges to do whatever it needs, and using sudo just gives more privileges to the sql client that is connecting you to the database, the login in the database decides what you can do in the DB
[20:49] <lumidee> reisio, i'd like the 3d feature of google earth
[20:50] <romare> MonkeyDust: and then I tried installing skype again and had the same error.
[20:50] <TJ-> Mar0kK: it generally means the GPU drivers are not installed correctly, or not configured correctly
[20:50] <lumidee> i couldnt find out google earths version in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/g/googleearth-package/googleearth-package_1.2.2/changelog .. latter shows only the package version itself
[20:50] <Mar0kK> but how to reinstall?
[20:50] <TJ-> Mar0kK: so the X server falls back to a 'safe' mode as its last resort
[20:51] <Mar0kK> its not even go into the safemode
[20:51] <TJ-> Mar0kK: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues ( look for lines with status EE (for error) )
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> romare  if that doesnt help, i'm out of ideas
[20:51] <romare> :((
[20:51] <luvenfu> TJ-: it was the cable
[20:51] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, https://gist.github.com/CausaMortis/47c030b3f9d75c900b503b2285388107
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> !manual | romare
[20:52] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, im only trying to setup a postgresql database (need to be logged in as postgresql and then create a vagrant user
[20:52] <bittin-_> Hello anyone can help me find out what email account i got on my Ubuntu One and Launchpad account ?
[20:52] <reisio> lumidee: you can use 7.1 on Ubuntu, and that is the latest version provided by Google
[20:52] <ZioUmby> ciao
[20:52] <reisio> lumidee: for any OS
[20:53] <lumidee> reisio, ah nice, thanks
[20:53] <reisio> for any desktop OS, rather
[20:53] <TJ-> bittin-_: you can check for yourself on launchpad usually; https://launchpad.net/~<youraccountname>
[20:53] <Neepu> When an ubuntu user have left the computer, it logs automaticly off. But what happens with daemons/applications running, are they in some sort of sleep mode? I'm asking because i have a couple of daemons running.
[20:53] <reisio> lumidee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[20:53] <bittin-_> TJ-: said i had to login then and i don't remember my login
[20:53] <TJ-> bittin-_: what's your username on LP?
[20:54] <bittin-_> TJ-: bittin
[20:54] <bittin-_> https://launchpad.net/~bittin
[20:54] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: have a look at your user list in the OS, there probably is a postgres role create for running the database server.
[20:55] <TJ-> bittin-_: I can't see it either; only your SSH key.
[20:55] <bittin-_> TJ-: arggh :(
[20:55] <Mar0kK> TJ-
[20:56] <Mar0kK> how can I solve it?
[20:56] <TJ-> bittin-_: there's a #launchpad channel on IRC I *think* that might help
[20:56] <bittin-_> TJ-: alright will try to get them to help me then
[20:56] <TJ-> Mar0kK: as I said, check the log file for clues
[20:56] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: sry, sudo su - postgres start the sql server with root privileges
[20:57] <TJ-> bittin-_: if your SSH key still exists on your end you may be able to use that + the LP API to pull your info back
[20:57] <Mar0kK> Light DMmanager Display manager failed
[20:57] <bittin-_> TJ-: nope it does not sadly
[20:58] <Petrushka> I'm trying to run a script that toggles my wifi every day at 16:53
[20:58] <Petrushka> i wrote the script and made a crontab entry calling it
[20:58] <Petrushka> but it isn't working
[20:58] <TJ-> bittin-_: there's https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#people
[20:58] <Petrushka> the contents are here:
[20:58] <Petrushka> https://paste.ubuntu.com/16182209/
[20:58] <Petrushka> but it doesn't work
[20:59] <bittin-_> TJ-: alright
[20:59] <Petrushka> can anybody tell me what the problem is?
[20:59] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data  looks like it creates a database container in /usr/local/pgsql/data
[21:00] <romare> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:00] <romare> what to do?
[21:00] <\9> Petrushka: look at /var/log/syslog, cron may have posted error messages there
[21:00] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, yea sorry. im out of my depth here but trying :p basically thats what it is supposed to do which I can then create users and databases in
[21:01] <\9> Petrushka: your path to the script appears to have a '.' at the beginning
[21:01] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: createuser -s vagrant then creates a database user "vagrant".
[21:01] <\9> Petrushka: './home/alador/wifitoggle'
[21:02] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, the error vagrant throws is that it is trying to call initdb from the root user for some reason. but executing those commands directly inside the vm works like a charm
[21:02] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, its like it skips something
[21:02] <Petrushka> \9: i tried it without too
[21:02] <auronandace> romare: if you are trying to use apt-get then close the package manager or software center (only one thing can use it at a time)
[21:03] <Dumle29> TJ-: So I guess this is a "congratulations ubuntu team" for their simplifications. Installing the UNI printer now went from "go in the printer application, choose these things and fill in the forms" to " Install this package via the terminal, go to this web interface, add a new printer via this web interface (it'll then ask you for your user and pass, you have to be super user), then choose windows samba bleh, for the address enter: smb://
[21:03] <Dumle29> username:password@student.email.domain/printserver/Follow-You"
[21:03] <Petrushka> \9: this is what it says:
[21:03] <Petrushka> May  1 16:51:01 WINTERFELL CRON[22952]: (alador) CMD (/home/alador/wifitoggle)
[21:03] <Petrushka> May  1 16:51:01 WINTERFELL wpa_supplicant[1320]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED
[21:03] <Petrushka> May  1 16:51:05 WINTERFELL wpa_supplicant[1320]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33
[21:03] <Dumle29> so much simpler.
[21:03] <Dumle29> TJ-: Ping me if other people have samba printer issues :)
[21:03] <Petrushka> i'm not sure what that means though
[21:04] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: when you run the sudo su - postgres command in terminal I assume it asks for a password for root?
[21:05] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, it does not appear to do so no. tbh i dont care about security either as its just a virtual box hosting my dev env
[21:05] <akik> recon_lap: sudo asks for your own password
[21:05] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: and when you run it as a script does it ask for a password?
[21:05] <CausaMortis_> ==> default: initdb: cannot be run as root
[21:05] <CausaMortis_> ==> default: Please log in (using, e.g., "su") as the (unprivileged) user that will
[21:05] <CausaMortis_> ==> default: own the server process.
[21:05] <CausaMortis_> ==> default: createuser: could not connect to database postgres: FATAL:  role "root" does not exist
[21:05] <CausaMortis_> The SSH command responded with a non-zero exit status. Vagrant
[21:05] <CausaMortis_> assumes that this means the command failed. The output for this command
[21:06] <\9> !paste | CausaMortis_
[21:06] <\9> Petrushka: that is something beyond my knowledge, I'm afraid
[21:07] <CausaMortis_> fail x]
[21:07] <Dumle29> TJ-: This also means my password is stored in cleartext on an unprotected file on my laptop, as part of the printer uri :/
[21:07] <styles> I have a synology nas I'm mounting and anytime I'm trying to modify a file permission I get "Operation not permitted" but I can copy files there
[21:07] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: sry, thats something else, probably tightened up security to stop DB's being created with the root account.
[21:09] <styles> It seems to work if I'm root
[21:09] <styles> So something about my users permission on the mounted drive is screwey and I'm unsure
[21:10] <kiqio> Is this an error: http://forum.ubuntu.ir/index.php?PHPSESSID=e8m991olojffv1geac6a0i3600&action=dlattach;topic=133986.0;attach=42296;image (image)
[21:10] <auronandace> kiqio: no
[21:10] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: I'd have to try it to work out whats going wrong.
[21:10] <kiqio> I got it at the beginning of booting process
[21:10] <agoodm> hello all, ive just done a fresh 16.04 install coming from 15.10 in the hope my display port mst issues would be resolved (theyre not) however ive ran into a weird issue... I use a usb dac for my sound and the volume level in ubuntu 16.04 is far quieter than 15.10.... levels in pavucontrol are at 99% for the dac and source app...
[21:11] <kiqio> auronandace
[21:11] <kiqio> A warning?
[21:11] <auronandace> kiqio: it is checking that partition and it is clean
[21:11] <auronandace> kiqio: no, not a warning either
[21:11] <kiqio> Ah
[21:12] <rjr6860> I want to install ubuntu over a previous linux install. I am dual boot with win 7. Installed to same partitions as another linux. Can't get grub boot loader to work.
[21:13] <john-k> that does not sound like a good idea to me...
[21:14] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: try "sudo su - /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data"
[21:15] <DouglasK> Having a permissions issue .. should be straightforward.  Can't write to a directory, I'm a group member, and the group perms are rwx.  Pastebin with details at http://pastebin.com/rrv1xzN8  ... Ideas?
[21:15] <john-k> rhr6860, back-up home, perhaps etc, wipe bin, usr et cetera?
[21:16] <john-k> then install over?
[21:16] <auronandace> john-k: he left
[21:17] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, stdin: is not a tty
[21:17] <CausaMortis_> , initdb: cannot be run as root
[21:18] <john-k> auronandace: oh... I didn't mean to scare him off or what
[21:18] <CausaMortis_> recon_lap, appreciate the help by the way :) i figured i misunderstood something about bash scripting but it should be able to execute those commands
[21:18] <alkisg> DouglasK: did you just add douglask to the group? if so, you need to relogin or use newgrp
[21:19] <DouglasK> alkisg, closed the terminal, opened a new one.  same ssh session though.
[21:19] <DouglasK> I'll try killing the ssh session and reconnecting.
[21:21] <DouglasK> alkisg, thanks.  Never thought about the base SSH session being considered the login instead of the individual terminal window.  That did the trick.
[21:22] <alkisg> Nice :)
[21:22] <recon_lap> CausaMortis_: think you going to have to create a postgres user on the system. who can run the sql server and own the DB file
[21:23] <Petrushka> i'm trying to run a script that toggles my wifi every day at 17:12
[21:23] <Petrushka> i wrote the script and made a crontab entry but it isn't working
[21:23] <Petrushka> the script, crontab entry, and message in /var/log/syslog is seen here:
[21:23] <Petrushka> https://paste.ubuntu.com/16182428/
[21:23] <Petrushka> anybody know what the problem might be?
[21:24] <bekks> Petrushka: You arent using absolute paths for the binaries you are invoking, in your script.
[21:24] <bekks> Petrushka: You can safely omit setting the PATH variable.
[21:25] <Petrushka> bekks: ok, thanks
[21:25] <Petrushka> bekks: i had it set up that way before and it still didn't work - any idea what the problem might be?
[21:26] <lostsoul_> hi anyone have any knowledge of subtle wm for ubuntu, like how to style and configure it?
[21:26] <akik> Petrushka: does it work when you run it from the shell?
[21:27] <Petrushka> akik: yes, if i type ./home/alador/wifitoggle it works
[21:28] <effectnet> i dont know how to install a network printer
[21:28] <akik> Petrushka: what version of ubuntu is this? 16.04 nmcli doesn't have nm
[21:29] <Petrushka> i guess it's 14.04
[21:29] <akik> there's nmcli r wifi off though
[21:30] <bsamorim> guys, i'm curious about the memory management from unix systems....is there anywhere I could read more about it?
[21:30] <bsamorim> a pretty general tutorial
[21:30] <akik> Petrushka: ok so it's not about timing if it works from the shell
[21:30] <effectnet> i wonder why this linux  box wont see a browseable windows printer
[21:31] <Petrushka> akik: yes, it seems to work from the shell. i'm not sure what the problem is though
[21:32] <Guest62532> hi i this working????????????
[21:32] <bsamorim> yes
[21:32] <Guest62532> is not i haha
[21:32] <dillon> I was on here this mornin askin about netflix and linux.  Whenever I try to watch it all I get is redirected to the "system requirements of netflix" but I have the most recent version of chrome or at least the newest one from the software centre
[21:32] <akik> Petrushka: you could add logging to the script to see if the command output an error message. 2>file
[21:33] <akik> Petrushka: the thing is nmcli talk to the network-manager and there can be variables in the gui session that are not available in the cronjob?
[21:36] <kyle_> hi
[21:36] <kyle_> cant u sees this
[21:36] <Guest2822> just want to no
[21:36] <akik> Petrushka: here's something similar http://askubuntu.com/questions/107401/nmcli-works-in-script-when-i-run-itdirectly-but-not-when-run-in-cron it talks about access to dbus
[21:36] <Guest2822> i just installed ubuntu
[21:37] <Guest2822> how do i identify my nick
[21:38] <Guest2822> hello
[21:40] <akik> Guest26166: you can register and identify with nickserv
[21:40] <akik> oops where did he go
[21:41] <robotdevil1> so what the deal with UEFI, can I still use DD to make a clone of the entire disk so that I may purchase a ssd later and reimage the ssd? there is windows partitions on the disk as well
[21:42] <Bashing-om> dillon: The repo version 'chromium' does not support netflix . What does is the proprietary 'google-chrome' .
[21:43] <dillon> Bashing-om is there anyway to get netflix to work on Linux? I am just getting tired of constently changing my hdd out so I can watch it
[21:43] <robotdevil1> dillon: you have to use chrome not chromium
[21:43] <robotdevil1> and it just works
[21:44] <akik> there's one step after installing chrome to activate one addon inside chrome
[21:44] <robotdevil1> dillon: chromes repo constantly breaks my package manager thou
[21:44] <dillon> robotdevil1 I understand but also don't understand what you mean
[21:45] <Bashing-om> dillon: A couple of ways . install google-chrome from google direct is one way .. I "think" there is a way to get it to work in firefox, but I have not paid much attention to getting it working in firefox .
[21:45] <robotdevil1> dillon: the chrome way is much easier untill it borks your system a bit
[21:46] <robotdevil1> fuck
[21:46] <akik> robotdevil1: they're updating their pki setup
[21:46] <robotdevil1> oh
[21:46] <dillon> I think I am going to try  firefox or opera first and then go from there
[21:46] <akik> dillon: it's easier to go chrome way
[21:46] <akik> i don't think it works in firefox
[21:47] <robotdevil1> dillon: the other way you have to use a ppa and silverlight in a modified version of firefox
[21:47] <robotdevil1> dillon: it aint hard but it can bork your system too
[21:47] <dillon> then how would I get Chrome and not chromium to work
[21:48] <akik> dillon: you can get the deb from https://chrome.google.com/
[21:48] <robotdevil1> justi install chrome from google, doesnt matter if you have chromium installed already it wont ccare
[21:48] <vlab> for whatever reason my ubuntu-server 16.04 VM keeps pulling the same IP as my host machine, Hyper-V on W10. 14.04 gets a different IP, just 16.04 that takes the same IP. anyone else have this issue?
[21:48] <robotdevil1> dillon: do you dual boot with windows
[21:49] <dillon> no, I never got that technical with it, I have walked away from doing advance things like that.  I use to be all about it but I have gone away and don't care about doing anything like that any more
[21:51] <robotdevil1> dillon: ok well when you start ubuntu you dont see grub (ubuntu boot loader)  but you can see it you hit esc quickly enough, which will give the option to start ubuntu in recovery mode, so if chrome breaksyour system then you go there to fix it easily
[21:52] <robotdevil1> it may never happen with you thou
[21:53] <akik> robotdevil1: how did chrome's repository break your system?
[21:53] <robotdevil1> but if it does  --- press escape --- boot ubuntu into recovery mode ---- enable networking ---- fix broken packages
[21:53] <robotdevil1> no typing required they are all options you select
[21:53] <robotdevil1> but in that order
[21:53] <akik> robotdevil1: chrome's repository is defined in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list. remove it and apt update
[21:54] <Kleggas> Hi. Anyone know if there is an iso of latest ubuntu out there, that is patched with latest surfacelinux patches to be installable on a surface?
[21:54] <robotdevil1> akik: because it times out on the repo sometimes and the package manager fails
[21:55] <john-k> What is going on with WINE dependencies anyway? ... wine1.6-i386:i386 : Depends: libglu1-mesa:i386 but it is not going to be installed ... and so on ad nauseam
[21:55] <robotdevil1> dillon: the chrome is the prefered way for sure
[21:56] <robotdevil1> and that an easy fix for sure
[21:59] <hamersaw> if i'm looking for a minimal install of ubuntu on my desktop could i just install the server version?
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> !mini | hamersaw
[22:01] <elky> hamersaw: server isn't true minimal as it has useful server packaged, but if your idea of minimal is just "no desktop" then sure.
[22:01] <dillon> stupid question how come that the software center doesn't carry Google Chrome and only Chromium?
[22:02] <tgm4883> dillon: google chrome licensing doesn't permit redistribution
[22:02] <john-k> elky: how about debootstrap?
[22:04] <dillon> tgm4883 (sarcastically) but if you change the name and the general look and the icon then it is completely legit lol
[22:04] <tgm4883> dillon: I'm not sure what you mean
[22:06] <elky> john-k: i can't remember how minimal that is, but sure. the mini iso is still the better way to go if you don't already have an install.
[22:06] <dillon> chromium and google chrome are basically the same thing, the interface is almost identical. You can get the exact same apps from the store and the icon is basically identical
[22:06] <gdev> Does Ubuntu Gnome Edition also Feature the Ambiance theme?
[22:06] <croberts> is anyone having random wifi drops after going to 16.04 just drops everything your doing rebooting or disable/renable wifi helps
[22:07] <croberts> i turned off ipv6 but still not helping
[22:07] <tgm4883> dillon: no, chromium is an open source project. Chrome is chromium plus closed source stuff that Google adds. They are not "basically the same thing"
[22:08] <croberts> not sure what log would show the wifi drops
[22:08] <robotdevil1> dillon: ones open and one is closed, usually closed things arent allowed in distriubtions, for example some distros dont allow firefox in because its icon is restricted
[22:08] <robotdevil1> they call it iceweasel and change the icon a little and move on
[22:12] <ubuntnoob> I finally have wireless connected with a mini.iso install after manually configuring wpa_supplicant, but I don't have dhcpcd installed. What options do I have? I followed this to get it working - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant
[22:12] <eelstrebor> looks like i'll have to reinstall ubuntu since i can't get the graphics fixed despite the stuff i tried from googling
[22:13] <fxms> Hi there! Anybody knows what's happening with the springseed repos/website?
[22:13] <derbie> Hi! New machine same setup but now libdc1394 error: Failed to initialize libdc1394
[22:13] <ubuntnoob> I want to be able to 'dhcpcd <i>interface</i>' and get wireless working
[22:13] <derbie> I am really struggling :(
[22:13] <bmsr256> hi, you know what are the amd graphics controllers for ubuntu 16.04
[22:15] <john-k> ubuntnoob: can't you just set a static IP address and DNS, and then apt-get the dhcpcd?
[22:16] <ubuntnoob> john-k: Sorry, I didn't know how to do that. I will look into how to do that now.
[22:16] <john-k> oh wait, ubuntu has "dhclient" as default
[22:16] <john-k> try "dhclient wlo1"
[22:16] <ubuntnoob> Okay, I will. Thank you.
[22:17] <ubuntnoob> john-k You are awesome. Thank you, it worked perfectly.
[22:18] <ubuntnoob> Now that I have it working, can I just install something like wifi-menu and use that to connect from now on?
[22:20] <john-k> ubuntnoob: of course you can.
[22:21] <recon_lap> dont seem to be able to turn off safe boot in UEIF , boo
[22:21] <ubuntnoob> john-k: Do you have any recommendations for other programs vs. wifi-menu?
[22:21] <john-k> ubuntnoob: are you going to run a GUI?
[22:21] <john-k> if so, which one?
[22:22] <ubuntnoob> john-k: probably i3, but I'd like to have to ability to do it easily from the command line
[22:22] <ubuntnoob> I also know of wicd-curses
[22:24] <john-k> No idea then. I only use wpa_supplicant when in terminal
[22:25] <ubuntnoob> I appreciate your help john-k. I'll do a little more research myself.
[22:26] <john-k> No problem.
[22:26] <john-k> recon_lap: what laptop brand/model?
[22:27] <Tomekkk> Hi folks, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 on a new Asus N552VW, everything works but the touchpad, its a Elantech touchpad but does not appear in xinput or /proc/bus/input/devices, any help would be much appreciated.
[22:27] <recon_lap> john-k:  it's a zoostorm desktop
[22:28] <john-k> recon_lap: oh. Does it's UEFI allow enrolling your own keys?
[22:29] <recon_lap> john-k: dont know, only been a UEIF user for about a month.
[22:33] <TJ-> recon_lap: there's usually a Security menu where Secure Boot can be enabled/disabled, and possibly new keys added, as well add/remove entries in the boot-menu
[22:34] <recon_lap> TJ-: been looking, cant find anything like that, just a small section telling me the "secure boot status" enabled
[22:34] <TJ-> recon_lap: what does "dmesg | grep DMI" report?
[22:34] <akik> recon_lap: i had to define a password for the bios admin account before i was able to setup secure boot (acer laptop)
[22:35] <recon_lap> sry, found key management, bloody EUIF scroll stopped because mouse reached bottom of screen , lol
[22:36] <munch_28> I have a very annoying issue with using alt Tab on a full screen terminal that makes my launcher disappear
[22:36] <munch_28> It does not last, but I'm wondering if anyone's ever heard of this before
[22:38] <endev15> How can I check over 100 files for a specific string of text?
[22:38] <TJ-> munch_28: what do you mean by 'full screen terminal'? a VT console accessed via Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[22:38] <scatterp> endev15: grep -r *
[22:38] <scatterp> endev15: grep -r * "a line of text"
[22:38] <TJ-> endev15: "grep <string> /path/to/files/* /another/path/to/some/files/*"
[22:39] <recon_lap> great, if I enable win8 mode I can turn off secure boot.
[22:39] <endev15> can path/to/files be a folder containing the files?
[22:39] <john-k> what's the ubuntu not-really-urgent-support channel?
[22:39] <ali_> guys who uses mouse instead of touchpad? in laptop ofc
[22:40] <endev15> me ofc
[22:40] <scatterp> me some times ali_
[22:40] <ali_> I wanted to ask if its worth giving laptop to rma for weeks just for touchpads fault
[22:40] <john-k> ali_: clit mouse ftw
[22:40] <endev15> probably you might need it one day ali_
[22:41] <ali_> it has issues when charging. on battery it works fine.
[22:41] <ali_> cursor on touchpad
[22:41] <recon_lap> lol, disabled secure boot and all my graphics driver problems went away.
[22:41] <Bashing-om> bmsr256: ATI drivers are included in the kernel in 16.04 . There are no FGLRX drivers provided by ATI . See the 16.04 release notes .
[22:41] <endev15> scatterp how do i do it for files within a directory? and subdirectories
[22:42] <scatterp> hi so had the unfortunate experience of working with a mac that basically melted doing some light damage to the file structure of the hd due to improper shut down anyway i put the drive in a hp rack server tried to access it with testdisk and gparted .. gparted just crashes and pops windows mentioning apple and mac .. eventually i changed the type of a partition in the middle of the drive to ext4 mounted it fsck and the partition/d
[22:42] <scatterp> get rid of the mac data gparted either crashes or says its a blank drive how can i zero everything other than /dev/sda1 ?
[22:42] <scatterp> endev15:  exactly how i said the "-r" does that
[22:42] <endev15> ohh i see. Thanks scatterp!
[22:43] <ali_> I have a dell latitude e6420
[22:43] <ali_> running ubuntu
[22:44] <ali_> having touchpad issues only during charging. :( sad.
[22:45] <scatterp> ali_: i had that on a dell before hrm
[22:45] <ali_> oh scatterp
[22:45] <ali_> did u manage to fix it?
[22:46] <john-k> scatterp: I'd try using smartctl to check if the drive has any errors first
[22:47] <scatterp> thanks john-k but even if its dieing i still want to make it boot if possible :/
[22:48] <scatterp> ali_: tell me about your laptop charger.. everything you know about it
[22:49] <ali_> its a standard 19.5V charger by dell
[22:50] <john-k> scatterp: important data on the drive?  might want to check out *ddrescue* to make an image of the drive and boot it in a VM?
[22:50] <TJ-> ali_: I bet its a firmware ACPPI bug
[22:50] <aziz> hola
[22:50] <scatterp> ali_:  is it the one the laptop was sold (NEW) with
[22:50] <bmsr256> Bashing-om: I heard that 16.04 will include the new AMDGPU drivers
[22:50] <TJ-> ali_: show us "pastebinit <( sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows )"
[22:51] <ali_> I am using ubuntu
[22:51] <scatterp> john-k: yeah thats half the plan tried dd a number of times before the mac burned out
[22:51] <ali_> Actually I got this laptop in a refurbished condition
[22:51] <scatterp> aha
[22:51] <ali_> charger came along
[22:51] <ali_> with it
[22:51] <scatterp> ali_:  thats your issue i think
[22:51] <scatterp> ali_:  go ahead and go in to the bios and disable ACPPI
[22:52] <TJ-> ali_: there are well known bugs in ACPI firmware like this, the laptop I'm on now has one, booting with AC adapter connected disables the USB-connected touchscreen
[22:52] <scatterp> ali_: also try an original charger
[22:52] <TJ-> scatterp: NO! do not disavble ACPI!
[22:52] <scatterp> TJ-:  why not ?
[22:52] <TJ-> scatterp: because every modern PC requires ACPI to function safely
[22:53] <ali_> what should I type to get details, TJ
[22:53] <TJ-> ali_: show us "pastebinit <( sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows )"
[22:53] <aziz> I seek good help
[22:53] <scatterp> TJ-: well other options a bios update but i did that to my dell alienware and it never came back :(
[22:53] <Bashing-om> bmsr256: Yeah ,, IF the card is new enough to suppoort amdgpu .. presently the list is real small .
[22:53] <TJ-> ACPI == Advanced Control and Power Interface ... without it, things like thermal cutouts, device enablement, CPU stepping can all be disabled
[22:54] <ali_> I did
[22:54] <TJ-> a/Control/Configuration/
[22:54] <ali_> then what to do next
[22:54] <aziz> which is the most useful tool for scannear one server in ubuntu
[22:54] <TJ-> ali_: give us the URL
[22:54] <scatterp> aziz scan for what?
[22:54] <aziz> server
[22:55] <scatterp> aziz you need to be a bit more specific
[22:55] <ali_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16183331/
[22:55] <bmsr256> Bashing-om: ok, thank you, I will confirm if my graphics card is included in the list
[22:56] <ali_> so? TJ
[22:56] <aziz> see for example if I want scannear a web server tool is good
[22:56] <Bashing-om> bmsr256: :) . presently, opensource drivers are radeon and amdgpu , which depends on the card .
[22:56] <TJ-> ali_: that list is basically all the operating system versions the ACPI DSDT code supports. Generall, the lastest OS version we can see there will enable the most functionality. I think "Windows 2009" is the latest. What we have to do is have Linux pretend to be "Windows 2009" so the firmware enables all functionality correctly
[22:57] <bmsr256> Bashing-om: but even if not listed, everything must run ok btw
[22:57] <scatterp> aziz what specifically are you trying to do ?
[22:57] <azizLIGHT> hello?
[22:57] <ali_> hmm, so how can I do that
[22:57] <azizLIGHT> im getting highlighted
[22:58] <elky> azizLIGHT: people are talking to aziz who is also here.
[22:58] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Another user on line nucked " aziz " .
[22:59] <aziz> ufff
[22:59] <aziz> ayyy
[22:59] <nexussix> hi all
[22:59] <scatterp> TJ-:  when i had the same issue i remember googleing it there are quite a few results basiclly pointing at power supply but of course there is an acpi tie in i think i just disabled acpi but it was 10 years ago.. memory is very hazy
[23:00] <TJ-> ali_: now do: "  sed -i 's/^\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=\)"\(.*\)"/\1"\2 acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\\"Windows 2009\\""/' /etc/default/grub  "
[23:00] <nexussix> I have an issue with 16.10 - often something will lock my machine up hard. I suspect its something to do with X or when the screen turns back on or plugging in or removing my monitor.
[23:01] <ali_> done
[23:01] <ali_> now?
[23:01] <scatterp> off to sleep nite all any comments about my hd issue in pm please
[23:01] <TJ-> ali_: and to check it set the values correctly show us "pastebinit <( grep acpi /etc/default/grub )"
[23:01] <scatterp> ali_: pastebin it
[23:01] <nexussix> sorry, 16.04. Anyway I upgraded from 15.10 where it was rock solid. What was the most recent amd64 kernel for 15.10? I'd like to use that kernel, and see if thet help[s
[23:02] <ali_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16183382/
[23:02] <TJ-> nexussix: if you upgraded, the 15.10 kernel should still be installed and available from the GRUB boot loader's Advanced... sub-menu
[23:02] <TJ-> ali_: Good. now do "sudo update-grub"
[23:03] <nexussix> TJ-: unfortunately, no, its not.
[23:03] <TJ-> ali_: now, do a reboot so that new setting is used by the Linux kernel, and then test the PC see if the issue has cured, or got worse, or no difference
[23:03] <ali_> Generating grub configuration file ...
[23:03] <ali_> Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[23:03] <ali_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic
[23:03] <ali_> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-21-generic
[23:03] <ali_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-35-generic
[23:03] <ali_> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-35-generic
[23:03] <TJ-> nexussix: that's a pain!
[23:04] <TJ-> nexussix: you can fetch the 3 required packages directly from the archive and install them via dpk -i
[23:04] <john-k> Speaking of kernel updates - how do I do it manually?
[23:05] <nexussix> TJ-: yeah, I just don't what version kernel to get the packages from :) I tried the 4.6.blaa kernel but it seemed to have the same problem
[23:05] <ali_> holo
[23:05] <ali_> I did
[23:05] <ali_> now what
[23:05] <ali_> TJ
[23:05] <TJ-> nexussix: http://archives.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/  is the directory I think. Look for the latest 4.2.0.36-generic... you want the linux-image-*amd64.deb linux-headers-*amd64.deb and linux-headers-*all.deb
[23:05] <ali_> it said warning: setting grub_timeout
[23:06] <ali_> then found linux image .....
[23:06] <ali_> etc.
[23:06] <TJ-> ali_: that's fine, it has updated the GRUB boot menu with those settings on the kernel command line... so now do a reboot and test the PC
[23:06] <ali_> ok
[23:06] <ali_> Hopefully it will work
[23:06] <ali_> thanks aloot
[23:06] <ali_> :)
[23:07] <TJ-> nexussix: sorry, got the URL slightly wrong, missed the leading ubuntu/:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[23:08] <ali_> rebooted
[23:08] <ali_> TJ
[23:09] <TJ-> ali_: any difference in behaviour?
[23:09] <ramrebol> Hi. How can I avoid changes of compizconfig-settings-manager using the terminal?  I change one thing, and now I cant use the left click of mouse :(    May be deleting some configuration file of compizconfig-settings-manager :/
[23:09] <nexussix> TJ-: thanks heaps :D Hopefully, its work
[23:10] <ali_> let me drain a bit then I can plug in and check
[23:11] <xnerd> hey im trying to install dvl on my ubuntu mate
[23:11] <xnerd> i been getting some problem
[23:11] <ramrebol> or, how can I reset my desktop configuration by the default configuration using only the terminal?
[23:11] <xnerd> im running ubuntu mate
[23:12] <TJ-> ramrebol: most user config is under $HOME/.config/ somewhere, but some programs create their own .dot dircetories in home too
[23:12] <ramrebol> whats problem TJ- ?
[23:12] <xnerd> any help here
[23:13] <Bashing-om> !info dvl
[23:13] <Bashing-om> !info dvl trusty
[23:14] <ramrebol> TJ-: thanks.But I can't find some file with name '.compiz' or similar
[23:14] <xnerd> danm vulrability
[23:14] <xnerd> i might spell this wrong forgive me
[23:15] <TJ-> ramrebol: it should be .config/compiz-1/compizconfig
[23:15] <xnerd> its a web application
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> !info dvb
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> !info dvb-t
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> !info dvbt
[23:16] <john-k> What's the usual kernel updare procedure? Does apt-get upgrade replace kernel images, somewhere, that I have to copy into boot folder?
[23:16] <xnerd> i download it from the website and manually install it
[23:16] <TJ-> nuno_nunes: use 'apt-cache search' on your local system, as in "apt-cache search -n dvb"
[23:16] <nuno_nunes> ok
[23:17] <TJ-> john-k: "apt full-upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" will automatically upgrade kernel versions
[23:17] <nuno_nunes> or synaptic :p
[23:17] <ramrebol> TJ-: you are right, in that place are files, but are empty :/
[23:17] <TJ-> ramrebol: maybe the options are stored in dconf then; you could try browsing the hierarchy with dconf-editor
[23:18] <ali_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16183495/
[23:19] <TJ-> john-k: kernels are treated the same as any other package. downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives/, unpacked to the root file-system with debian control files in /var/lib/dpkg/info, and the the package configuration shell scripts are executed.
[23:20] <ramrebol> TJ-: but I don't have the left button of the mouse, so I cant make click on any option (for that reason I need a solution from the terminal )
[23:20] <ramrebol> TJ-: TJ- In you solution I need to use the mouse?
[23:20] <TJ-> ramrebol: spacebar usually doubles as the selection operator
[23:20] <ramrebol> good idea :)
[23:21] <john-k> TJ-: Oh, okay. Where's the resulting kernel binary? Because I'm running with my own secureboot keys, and I remember I had to sbsign the kernel...
[23:22] <ramrebol> TJ-: space bar works!!    great solution, thanks!!  Now I can use the mouse
[23:23] <TJ-> ramrebol: you can also use the comamnd-line: as in "dconf list /"
[23:23] <TJ-> john-k: /boot/vmlinuz-${VERSION}
[23:24] <TJ-> john-k: and initial ramdisk in same place /boot/initrd.img-${VERSION}
[23:24] <john-k> TJ-: only my running kernel there
[23:24] <TJ-> john-k: did you "dpkg -i ....deb" the kernel packages?
[23:24] <john-k> I guess I did something weird back when I installed though
[23:24] <namegoeshere> how can i set up RAID on ubuntu 16.04?
[23:24] <ramrebol> Now I can resolve my main problem: all the windows options desapear (the top bar with "file", "view", etc). How may I see them?
[23:25] <OpenSorce> 16.04.01 available yet?
[23:25] <namegoeshere> 16.04 server is
[23:25] <TJ-> john-k: "sudo dpkg -i package.deb package2.deb " etc, to install manually
[23:25] <john-k> TJ-: No.
[23:25] <john-k> TJ-: I mean I didn't install kernel through dpkg
[23:26] <TJ-> john-k: sorry, got you confused with nexussix asking about installing the 15.10 kernels
[23:26] <john-k> Note that my install is weird, I've got separate unmounted EFI boot and I boot EFI stub kernel directly
[23:27] <TJ-> john-k: well, all installed kernel packages will put the kernel images under /boot/  use "dpkg -l 'linux*' | grep ^ii" to check which kernels are installed
[23:28] <TJ-> john-k: in which case the stub should be in /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/ shouldn't it? which infers you need to mount the EFI-SP
[23:30] <newseong> Hi.
[23:30] <newseong> Do I want Marcos without Compisitor, with Compistor (software) or with Compistor (hardware GPU)?
[23:30] <newseong> What's the difference?
[23:31] <newseong> I notice no difference whatsoever.
[23:31] <newseong> In fact I notice no diff when I enable Compiz with hardware GPU.
[23:31] <HetroErectuz> what kind of server tasks would you run on a ubuntu mate setup (for fun mostly) ?
[23:31] <newseong> They all seem the same to me.
[23:31] <john-k> TJ-: yeah. It seems that I'm running the latest kernel anyway
[23:31] <newseong> So what's the difference?
[23:31] <HetroErectuz> got 5 tb diskspace
[23:34] <newseong> Why do I want compositing anyway?
[23:35] <john-k> TJ-: would there be a problem were I to use latest stable off of kernel.org, self-compiled?
[23:36] <robotdevil1> anyone wanna chime in on making a clone of my harddrive is going to be like with UEFI? will it make a difference?
[23:36] <TJ-> john-k: no, although do you know Ubuntu builds mainline kernels into .deb packages so you can just download the files?
[23:36] <TJ-> !mainline | john-k
[23:37] <namegoeshere> how can i set up RAID on ubuntu 16.04?
[23:37] <TJ-> robotdevil1: what has UEFI got to do with it? do you mean on whether the clone will boot on another UEI system?
[23:38] <TJ-> namegoeshere: use mdadm or lvm
[23:38] <namegoeshere> does lvm have a gui?
[23:38] <TJ-> namegoeshere: no, it's a kernel service with userspace tools
[23:38] <robotdevil1> TJ-: nope same system
[23:39] <john-k> TJ-: can I configure those kernels?
[23:39] <namegoeshere> TJ, okay I'll try it. thank yoi
[23:39] <namegoeshere> you *8
[23:39] <robotdevil1> TJ-: no I just very new to UEFI and was asking to make sure
[23:40] <TJ-> robotdevil1: UEFI stores a boot entry in its' NVRAM, and that includes the path to the boot file, so if the device changes the menu entry will not refer to the cloned device. However, if you copy the boot file to the removable media (simple) boot path it'll boot from it like from any removable device. That path and filename  is /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI on a 64-bit system
[23:41] <TJ-> robotdevil1: so for example if you've got a GRUB EFI bootable, with /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi you can copy that file to /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI and it'll boot without a menu entry
[23:42] <john-k> example:
[23:42] <john-k> root@hp:~# efibootmgr -v | grep Boot0004
[23:42] <john-k> Boot0004* Ubuntu 4.2.0-16 x	HD(1,GPT,764a6b85-e595-46f3-8812-dc7ca3a56037,0x800,0xff800)/File(\ubuntu\vmlinuz-4.2.0-16.efi) .i.n.i.t.r.d.=.\.i.n.i.t.r.d...i.m.g. .d.e.b.u.g.=.v.c. .i.g.n.o.r.e._.l.o.g.l.e.v.e.l. .c.r.y.p.t.d.e.v.i.c.e.=./.d.e.v./.s.d.a.2.:.c.r.y.p.t.r.o.o.t. .d.o.l.v.m. .r.o.o.t.=./.d.e.v./.m.a.p.p.e.r./.v.g.-.u.b.u.n.t.u.
[23:42] <ali_> OMG
[23:42] <ali_> TJ
[23:43] <TJ-> ali?
[23:43] <ali_> working fine
[23:43] <ali_> THANKS ALOT !!!!!
[23:43] <TJ-> ali_: it's fixed? I said it was most likely the common ACPI firmware bug :)
[23:43] <ali_> actually its better
[23:43] <ali_> than before
[23:43] <TJ-> ali_: blame the computer manufacturers; they write the ACPI code only to work with Windows, so Linux often gets the blame
[23:44] <TJ-> ali_: doesn't surprise me, when the ACPI DSDT doesn't recognise the OS name it sets a very low default set of features
[23:44] <TJ-> ali_: now your PC's ACPI DSDT thinks Windows 2009 is running so it enabled everything optimally
[23:45] <john-k> (What is Windows 2009 anyway?)
[23:45] <ali_> actually I was running windows 7 before that
[23:45] <ali_> and it was having same issue
[23:45] <TJ-> john-k: one of the many OSI strings the DSDT matches against
[23:46] <ali_> TJ mind if you can send me those commands again hehe. Wanna save them for later
[23:46] <TJ-> ali_: well, no need to RMA the poor PC now :)
[23:46] <ali_> haha thanks alot man
[23:46] <TJ-> ali_: you added "acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\"" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in  /etc/default/grub
[23:47] <awesome-0> hello all, im having a issue with ubuntu mate 16.04 with applying WOL at boot time it is enabled in bios and sudo ethtool -s enp1s0 wol g does turn it one
[23:47] <TJ-> ali_: "cat /etc/default/grub" to see it and the other boot-loader settings
[23:47] <ali_> thats all I have to do right?
[23:47] <ali_> yeaaaaaa Now I can use mousepad
[23:47] <ali_> hehehehe
[23:47] <TJ-> ali_: add those settings then apply them with "sudo update-grub" which writes the final /boot/grub/grub.cfg where those settings take effect when you boot the system
[23:48] <ali_> TJ I wanna learn to do these commands too
[23:48] <ali_> where can I learn hehe
[23:48] <ali_> :p
[23:48] <TJ-> ali_: by reading docs, experimenting, and making sure you make backups first :)
[23:49] <fenix_peregrino> Guys does someone use PIA VPN with Ubunu 16.04 LTS?
[23:49] <ali_> and TJ, not only that
[23:50] <TJ-> ali_: if you want to learn about other kernel command-line options see the Linux source documentation kernel-parameters.txt file. You'll find acpi_osi described in there e.g. at  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/tree/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[23:50] <ali_> but also the improvements in battery can be seen now
[23:50] <TJ-> ali_: that's an added bonus then
[23:50] <ali_> it was draining pretty quickly back then
[23:50] <ali_> now its like a macbook
[23:50] <ali_> lol
[23:50] <TJ-> ali_: right, now you've enabled all the powersaving features
[23:51] <ali_> so ACPI was having those features as well?
[23:52] <robotdevil1> so I have a 500 gig drive I want to clone, it not entirely full though but I still need 500 gig to output to right?
[23:52] <TJ-> ali_: ACPI is the interface between OS and hardware, that controls the power functionality. You've just gone from only a minimum power-hungry config to one that adapts depending on use, since Linux can now access all the functionality
[23:52] <john-k> TJ-: btw thanks, I am quite sure I didn't fuc--- mess up when installing my ubuntu several months ago
[23:53] <TJ-> robotdevil1: basically, yes, unless it has lots of NUL blocks and it is written to a target using 'sparse' blocks
[23:55] <john-k> TJ-: random related question - is there a way to make lvm (and ext4) write all of their unused blocks as NUL?
[23:56] <TJ-> john-k: well, that's what the 'discard' flag is about, but if the underlying device doesn't support TRIM/UNMAP I'm not sure how useful it'd be
[23:57] <john-k> I mean a "you will be assimilated, resistance is futile" command
[23:57] <john-k> something I could issue before physical-to-virtual conversion
[23:58] <robotdevil1> TJ-:  if I use DD ,  dd if=/dev/sda of =/dev/sdf1/   this will make a backup of the entire sda and only use part of the sdf drive (say if it was 3 TB) I dont want to wait to write the whole thing out, then I could use dd if =/dev/sdf1/ of=/dev/sda  so that it would write out to the entire disk instead of just partition. Right?
[23:58] <TJ-> !info zerofree | john-k
[23:59] <ali_> is there any evernote application on linux
[23:59] <TJ-> robotdevil1: assuming /dev/sdf1 is large enough to take /dev/sda, else it'd fail with "out of space"