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ahoneybunovidiu-florin what is the size you used for that IRC icon on the Podcast section?>02:31
ahoneybunnvm02:32
ahoneybunwait how do we login...02:55
ahoneybunovidiu-florin http://kubuntu.org/kubuntu-podcast/03:00
ahoneybun:)))03:00
yofelsgclark, clivejo: I'm only realizing this now, but when I look at https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git, why is the namespace missing? And https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git is empty..07:33
sgclarkcould yo elaborate on namespace... I did what you want. You havent exactly been here.07:34
sgclarkI have killed myself getting where we are now. feel free to fix07:34
yofelI know, was so tired that I decided to take the weekend off07:34
yofelwell, I can fix it... but that'll change the URLs of all repositories again07:35
sgclarksigh07:35
yofelbrb07:35
sgclarkI rembember asking exactly why yoou did not want to have framework/plasma etc..07:36
sgclarkbut whatever07:36
sgclarkI have literally worked non stop this weekend07:37
sittersgclark: go take the week off (:07:37
sgclark................07:37
sgclarkfine whatever07:37
* sitter hugs sgclark07:38
sitteryofel: FWIW, the super directory is fairly stupid in all sorts of ways. such as when things move (khelpcenter plasma->apps)07:38
sgclarksitter: we need a yakkety image. but I am not sure I care anymore.07:38
sittersync all the debian!07:39
sgclarkyeah I wanted and lost that fight07:39
sitterooph07:39
sgclarkI got Ci working with launchpad except merges07:40
sgclarkthat is a beast I was going to work on tomorrow. but meh07:40
yofelsitter: why that? It makes esp. those moves a non-issue07:47
yofelsgclark: don't misunderstand me, that you A LOT for working on this07:48
yofelI was just irritated a bit as I talked about this with clive last week..07:48
sgclarkhe tried and could not. I stepped up. learned ruby a bit and mustered the best I could.07:50
sgclarkwas very happy with my progress. now not so much.07:50
sgclarkI showed you the ecm I had and the ONLY complaint you had was origin07:50
yofelchanging the URLs should be a simple sed run, but lets see if moving a repo on launchpad is a thing07:51
sgclarkso how am I suppose to know?07:51
sgclarkso far launchpad is seriously limited07:51
yofelright, partly my fault. I only realized the missing namespace when you talked about CI picking up automation, which shouldn't have been possible07:51
sgclarkI changed some bit of code getting that to work07:52
sgclarkbit it does..07:52
sgclarkbut rather07:52
sgclarkI forked pangea so in theory sitter will not hate me07:53
sgclarkonly thing I could not get to work is mergers, and that is a matter of sorting out how the heck to get a token for launchpad API07:54
sitteryofel: they are a non-issue because they are still the same thing. if they weren't the same thing one of the two would need a source rename anyway. as such they make the release scope change an issue to begin with in that you now have a khelpcenter (up to plasma 5.6) which is plasma/ but you also have a khelpcenter (apps 16.08 onwards) which is applications/ but they both are the same thing just released at different cadences07:54
sgclarkright.07:55
yofelso debian makes copies of the repositories?07:56
sgclarkkci.yaml is instead only a straight list of jobs instead of broken into namespaces07:56
yofelI mean, it's not like we would acutally ship 2 different versions of it, so why is that a problem again?07:56
sgclarkand I could not use * because yoou cannot ssh inot git.launchpad.net no shells available :(07:56
yofelyou could get the list from an API call I guess..07:57
yofelsitter had some fancy API wrapper for ruby07:57
sgclarkif you can go for it. I could not07:57
sitteryofel: at the very least you have one supported version in the archive of the last released kubuntu and one not supported version in the archive of teh next kubuntu that follows07:57
sgclarkyofel: I am using his ruby code..07:57
sitterin a CI context it creates unnecessary world because now you need to deal with there being two khelpcenters that are really the same khelpcenter but in different scopes07:57
yofelisn't it the job of the branches to figure that out?07:58
sitterthey are branches across repos07:59
sitterif they were the same repo sure07:59
sitterbut they aren't because they are in different directories07:59
sitterwhich is why the dir approach is silly :P07:59
sittersgclark: token... irb07:59
yofelwell, that's why I wanted to only have one directory for everything?07:59
sgclarkirb?07:59
sitterinteractive prompt07:59
sitterthen run https://paste.kde.org/pxkbjuwls08:00
sitterpmq6n6kxe08:01
sitterhttps://paste.kde.org/pmq6n6kxe08:01
sitterlooks like this08:01
sittersgclark: you now have a tokens config https://paste.kde.org/pyxxctf3r08:01
yofelhm, looks like you can freely change the project that a git repo belongs to08:02
sittersgclark: if you want to use the ruby lib you basically repeat the two lines of code in your script. of which the first loads the lib and the second loads the token from ~/.config/lp-tokens.json08:03
sgclarkah08:03
sgclarkok08:03
sgclarkif I calm down and decide to continue. I will try that tomorrow.08:04
sitteronce you have that you can use one of the scripts in ci-tooling/kci for guidance on how to use the lib itself08:04
sgclarkyeah I have actually sorted out much of what you have going on here08:05
sgclarkvery crafty08:05
sgclarkI am actually enjoying ruby08:05
sgclarkmuch more than python..08:05
sgclarkbut anyway, 1 am , time to take a break...08:06
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yofelsgclark: this would fix the repository namespace https://gist.github.com/Yofel/c4c6ca5270ea1e8c4b8f69a0ec2b876909:25
yofelrun it whenever is convenient for you09:25
yofel(that's also the API for getting a list of all valid repositories, see https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#git_repositories)09:25
soee_yofel: hiho09:31
yofelhey09:32
soee_have you seen the ppas related talk and can you remove those unused if you accept it ?09:32
yofelonly skimmed over it so far09:33
yofelsoee_: the plan was to delete beta and experimental?09:42
soee_hmm i think more, let me check log09:44
soee_[19:52] <sgclark> correct, sorry, yes please remove everything but staging/landing. and be clear that staging is generally broken. landing is really where folks need to be unless asked to test staging09:46
soee_and i think: daily/weekly CI09:47
soee_as they are not used almost a year now and we can create them if we start providing that builds09:47
soee_backports stays ofc.09:48
soee_i asked Scarlett about beta backports and i think she said that this might be use when we will have more packagers 09:48
soee_but probably not any soon? 09:48
yofelok, so...09:50
yofelsgclark, clivejo, valorie: ci daily/weekly and ppa beta/experimental are DISABLED now09:50
yofelthat will hide them from non-team-members and prevents uploads to them09:50
yofeldeleting a PPA also causes apt errors for users, so lets do that when we know that nobody is using them anymore09:51
yofelthe staging ppa's already have capital letter warnings to not use them, maybe that should be made more visible..09:52
soee_i doubt anyone uses daily/weekly CI09:52
yofelthe CI itself might have code for that somewhere, so I'll leave the deletion of those up to sgclark09:53
soee_ok09:53
yofelregarding beta and experimental. IMO experimental is probably obsolete, everyone just uses personal repos these days. 09:57
yofelNot having beta means that we have no place to ever put beta versions for stable releases anymore. I'm not quite convinced that we don't plan to ever do that again09:57
yofelit still counts as a test repo though, so it shouldn't be on the wiki page09:58
knomeahoneybun, i sent you a PM about kubuntu DVD's for 16.04 (mentioning here if for some reason the PM doesn't reach you)10:05
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clivejocan anyone help with my gpg problem.  I have a number of users on my system, to do diferent jobs (Kubuntu, OSM, business and personal).   Log into the account I want via Konsole and do my work11:09
clivejoup unto recently Ive been using this successful but its stopped being able to remember my passphase via gpg-agent11:10
BluesKajHiyas all11:50
BluesKajhi again11:57
soee_hiho11:57
yofelclivejo: is your GPG_AGENT_INFO in the env kept intact when you do that?12:31
yofeland does the target path and the right agent PID exist?12:32
clivejono, its blank for every user12:32
yofelsgclark: is something blocking you from lp 1576455? 12:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576455 in kde-l10n-ru (Ubuntu Xenial) "SRu kde-l10n-* translation packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157645512:32
yofelis gpg-agent actually running?12:33
clivejoyes12:33
yofeland /tmp/gpg-something exists?12:33
clivejono12:34
yofelsgclark: just asking as I see nothing in the upload queue yet12:35
clivejowont create a socket12:35
yofelwhat does it say when you run 'gpg-agent' in konsole?12:35
clivejogpg-agent[6432]: gpg-agent running and available12:35
yofelhuh12:36
clivejoexactly!12:36
yofelenv | grep GPG_AGENT is really empty?12:36
yofelhm, wait12:36
clivejoecho $GPG_AGENT_INFO is a blank line12:37
yofelclivejo: FWIW, I don't have a socket on this system either (but no gpg key)12:48
yofelit still says that the agent is fully functional though o.O12:48
yofelclivejo: we are working on the launchpad git branches already, right?13:06
BluesKajhmm, no upgrades in Yakkety for 2 days 13:12
clivejoyofel: kinda14:00
clivejosgclark has pushed frameworks as far as I know14:01
yofeluh oh :D14:01
clivejoplasma14:01
yofelI also see apps14:01
clivejoI was modifying KA to use LP rather than git14:01
clivejocloned plasma packages14:02
clivejorm'ed yakkety branch as it was based on master14:02
clivejoand checkout'ed out xenial_archive into new yakkety branch14:02
clivejobut just for plasma14:02
clivejoI was trying to run staging and gpg-agent wouldnt work, so thats where Im at14:03
clivejosgclark said she was going to work on apps14:03
yofelah, are all yakkety branches broken?14:03
mamarleyclivejo: Trying to stage Plasma 5.6.x?14:03
clivejo5.6.314:04
* mamarley happy dance.14:04
clivejobut I cant sign the packages14:04
clivejoso ....14:04
yofelclivejo: wait, you only fixed the plasma branches?14:04
yofelwhy not everything?14:04
clivejoI kinda got shouted at :/14:04
yofel...14:04
yofelnow scripting the fixing requires writing logic to not delete any good branches :S14:05
yofelwhen fixing everything would've been trivial14:05
clivejoyofel: feel free to delete the plasma yakkety branches14:05
clivejonothing new in there14:05
yofelclivejo: I would delete *all*14:06
clivejowell I know sgclark was working on yakkety FW5.2114:06
yofelbrrr14:06
clivejohttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.21.0_yakkety.html14:07
yofelI guess somekind of silent git diff would work...14:07
clivejoI couldnt get the git copy to work properly14:07
clivejonothing will work right for me!14:07
yofelwell, and I missed that she used the wrong namespace14:08
yofel*that* is trivial to fix14:08
yofelthe branches not :S14:08
clivejohow do you tell ka about a new dist ie yakkety?14:09
yofelIIRC you first need to initialize the package lists14:09
clivejowhat name space are we supposed to use?14:10
yofeland for the new code from santa maybe edit another dozen files, dunno14:10
yofelclivejo: URIs are supposed to be ~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/$repo14:10
yofelbut currently the project is missing14:10
clivejowhat are they now?14:11
yofel~kubuntu-packagers/+git/$repo14:11
* yofel thought: "how hard can it be to figure out the parent of a git branch"14:12
yofelwell, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3161204/find-the-parent-branch-of-a-git-branch14:12
yofelI think I need a different solution14:12
yofelalthough, the broken yakkety branches should not have any diff from master14:17
clivejothe plasma ones are from xenial_archive14:17
yofelright, I just want an automated way that doesn't delete any branches with valid changes in them14:21
clivejobeyond me :(14:21
clivejoI cant even sign stuff right now14:22
clivejogrrrrrr14:29
clivejohttps://paste.kde.org/pkdv84qdo14:29
clivejoits available or now available, make up your mind!14:29
clivejonot14:29
yofelhm, looks like the CI is "fixing" the branches already14:32
yofelthe history ends up wrong, but the code might be ok...14:33
yofelso instead of deleting the branches, merging xenial into them might make more sense14:33
clivejoah ha!!!14:35
yofelso we kind of just forced us to do another debian merge :P14:36
* clivejo dances14:36
yofel(which is a non-issue in most cases)14:36
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clivejogpg is working again14:42
mamarleyYay!14:43
clivejohad to "export GPG_AGENT_INFO=/home/clivejo/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1"14:43
clivejobefore I start the daemon14:43
clivejowonder why that setting got messed up14:44
clivejoor how14:44
clivejomaybe I should generate a new key, using my kubuntu email while I at it!14:45
clivejonice big 4096-bit one14:46
yofelcome to think of it, I had agent startup problems a long time ago. These days I have custom startup logic for it (so I have working code on all systems, even servers)14:46
yofelyou could also edit your existing key to add the mail (that's what I did)14:46
clivejothink a new 4096 one would be better14:47
clivejothe other one is a year old now14:47
clivejoyofel: what does Der Dichter mean?14:48
yofelThe guy that writes poems14:50
sitterclivejo: the poet14:50
yofelright, memory fail14:52
clivejoI see14:52
yofelhm, actually, the branch merging would only work if debian didn't remove anything that we need15:02
yofelso in the end, someone still has to read the branch diff output of all repositories15:02
clivejocant you recreate a complete copy of debian git in the correct place15:07
clivejoand then sgclark can merge in her changes?15:07
clivejofor FW?15:07
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soee_yofel:  do we have password required for live session ?15:34
yofelno15:34
soee_yofel: can you tk e look @ #kubutnu15:34
soee_*kubuntu15:34
soee_user reports it requires password15:34
yofelthere is a bug report about users not being able to install kubuntu thanks to plasma crashing repeatedly15:35
yofelif that ends with the login screen appearing, that would explain what he sees15:35
yofelbut I'm just guessing15:35
yofeloh, trusty15:35
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Sick_rimmit_phonHi there 😄16:30
yofelheyho16:32
sgclarkhowdy16:35
* yofel out16:48
yofelFYI: I don't pay much attention to IRC on evenings lately. Rather ping me on Telegram if there's something important16:48
sgclarksitter: were you able to make a yakkety docker image? Or point me to instructions on doing it? pretty please18:17
clivejohi sgclark18:28
sgclarkhiyas18:28
clivejodid you see yofel's links earlier?18:28
sgclarkthe one where I was not informed about the kubuntu-packaging namespace until to late? sure.18:29
clivejothe fixes on github?18:29
sgclarkhuh>18:30
yofelo/18:30
sgclark?18:30
yofelsgclark: https://gist.github.com/Yofel/c4c6ca5270ea1e8c4b8f69a0ec2b876918:30
yofelshould take care of it18:30
sgclarkah18:30
sgclarkno I did not see that.18:31
sgclarkok18:31
sgclarksadly I already ran applications and in the middle of that, I can do it after though18:31
yofelsure, I didn't run that as that should be done at the same time as fixing the CI URIs18:32
sgclarkyeah will have to do that too18:32
yofelso do it whenever is convenient for you18:32
sgclarkdo you know if yakkety images were made for ci?18:33
yofelno idea18:33
sgclarkok18:33
yofeldid you fix the branches for applications?18:33
sgclarkI am fixing them as I go18:34
yofelah ok, thanks18:34
sgclarkI branched off wrong branch :(18:34
sgclarkmy fault. fixing stuff as I go18:34
sgclarkand currently mergers are totally broken. so I am manually merging as well. fun stuff18:35
yofelright, technically the CI "fixed" some of that by practically doing a debian merge on its own..18:35
sgclarknah that is me18:35
yofelI just hope that nothing important got dropped by that18:35
sgclarkci mergers are broken18:35
yofelaah ok, then great :)18:35
yofelthat not so much :/18:35
sgclarkI have to do the lp magic to get token for that to be fixed18:36
sgclarkon my to list. but it is better to do them by hand right now with all the moving and such18:36
sgclarkto be careful18:36
yofelack18:37
sgclarkyofel: do take a look at akonadi for me though. that one seems to be a pain point for me. when you have time, no rush18:42
yofelsgclark: ah right, if you didn't read the backlog yet: Are you stuck on something regarding kde-l10n?18:42
sgclarkyofel: backlog seems to have been cut off. yes I have an sru waiting and waiting18:42
sgclarka chunk of packages got missed, breaking installs across the world18:43
yofelI fixed that bug up a bit so it looks like a valid SRU. But I think the SRU team is waiting for you to upload things18:43
sgclarkliterally :)18:43
yofelas I saw nothing in the queue I was curious if you're stuck18:43
sgclarkshadeslayer_:  uploaded them for me18:43
sgclarkum18:43
yofelto yakkety, but there's nothing in xenial unapproved18:44
sgclarkwe uploaded both yakkety and xenial18:44
sgclarkshadeslayer_: ^^18:44
sgclarkwell I gave xenial to him to upload18:44
yofelhm... I wonder if I missed something18:44
sgclarkand according to infinity you and I are suppose to be able to upload our package set without a motu18:46
yofelYou can upload xenial yourself though18:46
yofelsure we can. Problem last cycle was that we had at least one source from each component that we couldn't upload18:47
yofelwhich kind of defeats the packageset18:47
sgclarkblah18:47
yofelbugfixes we can do though18:47
sgclarkcan we fix that?18:47
yofelwe cannot upload NEW sources, that's >= MOTU18:47
yofelonce they're uploaded, we can fix the packageset18:48
yofelplease ask kde to not make any new components for the time being, thanks :P18:48
sgclarkLOL18:48
sgclarkI understand now18:48
sgclarkwe have several new already18:48
sgclarkkactivities split for one18:48
yofelAFAIR, we should be able to upload SRUs for pretty much everything for xenial if we need to. So you don't need a sponsor for that18:49
yofeljust actual development is a bit.. annoying18:49
sgclarkok, so I should just push these xenial translations?18:50
* yofel started writing his core dev application, but that'll take a while18:50
sgclarkcool18:50
yofelYes, but please put the bug # into the changelog so the SRU team knows what they belong to18:50
sgclarkI was approved for outreachy which means actual money, so my core-dev is backburnered again18:50
sgclarkah18:51
sgclarkok, then I have to rerun. will do that later.18:51
yofelalso see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure - regarding bug status (I already created the xenial task)18:52
* yofel hides again18:57
telegram<@marcinsagol>: Is this channel out of sync!19:46
telegram<@Clifford>: Looks like it19:46
telegram<@marcinsagol>: @ovidiuflorin can you do something about it?19:46
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: done19:52
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: my ISP went down today19:52
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: and bot died when it came back19:52
soeeanyone have idea what is wrong here: http://pastebin.com/SHTwZiev ?19:56
clivejoyou need to pay the electric bill19:57
clivejolooks like you are trying to force the installation of MySQL 5.6, but the default is 5.719:58
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: it's not electric19:58
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: the whole ISP went down19:58
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: 4G as well19:58
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: so I went to sleep19:58
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: there was nothing I could do19:59
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: when I woke up, it worked19:59
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: :-P19:59
clivejo@ovidiuflorin I was replying to soee and his mysql problem19:59
soeeclivejo: not me, user on #kubuntu asked for help19:59
clivejohe must have mysql-community-server installed20:00
clivejowhich relies on mysql-common and mysql-client 20:00
clivejodid they default mysql-server to 5.7 in wily too?20:01
soeeclivejo: problem with akonadi dep http://pastebin.com/yunPUCUh20:03
soeeclivejo: where are we with all this LP migration?20:04
clivejosoee: bit of a nightmare20:04
clivejodont ask :P20:04
soee:D20:04
clivejoapparently LP has namespaces20:05
clivejoand you didnt tell us!20:05
soeei thought it is pretty obvious :D20:05
clivejoteaching us a lesson huh?20:06
soee:)20:07
keithzgclivejo: Yeah he seems to have installed 5.7 from some external source and it's gotten everything twisted up.20:09
valorieon the migration, if my wacky backlog tells me true, we're not done, but it's getting sorted20:15
valoriemy thanks to all of you who sweated blood on that project20:15
* valorie is looking forward to seeing CI back too20:16
mhall119ahoneybun: ricktimmis: are you guys doing a Kubuntu podcast recording this week?20:19
ricktimmisYes.. Weds20:19
mhall119do you want to add it to the UOS schedule?20:19
mhall119if it's before 2000 UTC that is20:20
ricktimmisErr... thinking20:20
ricktimmisahoneybun: Comments20:20
ricktimmisI know you were looking at this20:20
ricktimmisI believe the HOA is scheduled for 20:00 BST = 19:00 UTC20:21
ricktimmisahoneybun: Poke, Prod.. 20:21
mhall119he might be busy, I don't need an answer this very moment20:22
ahoneybun19:00 20:22
ahoneybunI think is 3pm to me20:22
ricktimmisAh ha.. I knew he was there20:23
mhall119if you guys want it, please fill out http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/propose_meeting/ and then I'll put it on the schedule20:23
mhall119yeah, 1900 is 3pm for us20:23
ahoneybunit looked kinda full before20:23
* ricktimmis dives off to check G+ event details20:23
ahoneybunok 1900 is awesome20:23
valoriehmmm, has anybody updated the /topic lately? Isn't Plasma 5.6.3 our target next?20:23
ahoneybunI don't have access to it I think20:23
mhall119ahoneybun: we have an "Overflow" room we can use20:24
ricktimmisYes event is 19:00 UTC20:24
ahoneybunsweet20:24
valorieunsure why we have finished stuff in the topic20:24
* ricktimmis Jumps to podcast channel to avoid off-topic20:24
valorieanother question: who is running our social media stuff these days?20:25
valorieI don't see tweets from us, and is someone answering on FB/G+ ?20:26
ahoneybunI know ovidiu-florin is answering from his own profile on G+ in our community there20:28
sgclarkoh stuff20:32
sgclarkI randomly answer some stuff on G+ when I remember. That is not often20:36
sgclarkand as for migration I have to move the repos again, but can't till I finish apps because I had already run the script20:36
sgclarkspeaking of which clivejo are you working on plasma>>?20:37
sgclarkI think I figured out how to get docker images, but since I can't commit to blue systems I think it is time to switch jenkins to my fork.20:38
clivejosgclark: no, I have had problems with my gpg debsign20:42
sgclarkaww still? I thought I saw you dancing earlier20:42
clivejoand been holding off until your guys get the LP git sorted out20:42
sgclarkmy guys?20:43
clivejoyou20:43
sgclarkoh lol20:43
sgclarkright ok20:43
clivejowell you and yofel :P20:43
clivejoand soee20:44
valorieso are we working on Plasma 5.6.3? 20:44
valorieI was updating a plasma/packages wiki page20:44
clivejoI was trying to20:45
sgclarkum soee is working on stuff?20:45
clivejobut no progress20:45
valorieawesome20:45
clivejoI couldnt sign the packages20:45
sgclarkvalorie: afaik only frameworks and apps are in progress20:45
clivejoand the script isnt bumping frameworks20:45
valorieI'm sure y'all will figure this out20:46
valorie!releases20:46
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases20:46
clivejothen I heard the git wasnt in the right place20:46
clivejoso purged my workspace20:47
sgclarkdang I don't see a way to change repo through jenkins20:51
sgclarkI need access to the actual server20:51
* sgclark is tired of ramming into walls20:52
valorieis that LP admins, or who?20:52
sgclarkblue-systems20:52
valorieah20:52
sgclarkoh well giving up on yakkety builds. back to apps20:53
valorieif they have an IRC channel, it isn't public20:53
valorie:(20:53
valorieperhaps sitter knows who to ask....20:54
sgclarkstarbuck11: What do we need to do to get access to the actual jenkins server for kci?20:54
sgclarkprobably late over there.20:55
sgclarkI will try tomorrow20:55
yofelsgclark: you should have shell access20:57
sgclarkI tried20:58
sgclarkno go20:58
yofelmeh, can try tomorrow morning maybe, I'm at the wrong PC right now20:58
sgclarkoh20:58
sgclarkyeah new laptop might be the problem20:58
sgclarknew key20:59
sgclarktomorrow is fine. have plenty to do20:59
valoriesgclark: did you see the chat with claydoh about kmymoney?20:59
valoriehe has the latest packaged and tested in his PPA20:59
sgclarknope. was I suppose to?20:59
valorieI asked him to speak up about it here, but didn't see it in the backlog21:00
valorieanyway, it's one done.....21:00
sgclarkevery bit helps21:00
valorieagreed21:00
sgclarkbut yofel is the release manager so he needs to look it over :)21:00
valoriehttps://launchpad.net/~claydoh/+archive/ubuntu/kmymoney2-kde421:01
yofelhuh, we have no freeze right now. If it's not a beta go ahead and upload :P21:01
valoriethey need to do a new release21:01
valorieit's partly ported to kf521:01
sgclarkwell that name needs to go lol21:01
clivejoFFS why will nothing work for me!21:02
valoriebut it would be good to have it in the archive at least21:02
sgclarkindeed21:02
ahoneybunsoee with a older CPU and a Geforce GTX 650 on Win 10 it works at 55 FPS pretty solid21:02
clivejois kmail hanging on anyone else, or is it just me21:03
sgclarkyeah21:03
sgclarkbut I have not restarated akonadi in awhile21:03
sgclarkI get hit by akonadi bug, it does not ahndle intermittent internet well21:04
clivejoit pops up messages saying I got new mail but when I actually go to read them it wont load them21:04
sgclarkoh yeah it take forever to load an email21:04
clivejosits spinning for ages21:04
sgclarkyup21:04
yofelsounds like you want to try an akonadi restart21:04
clivejoPlease wait while the message is transferred21:05
clivejoforever!21:05
sgclarkit was actually working well before the mysql update...21:05
* ahoneybun is happy with Gmail web 21:05
sgclarkpft to updates21:05
clivejosgclark: mine too21:06
* clivejo curses mysql 5.721:06
* sgclark does too21:06
clivejooh great21:06
clivejoa segmentation fault21:07
clivejowell done kontact21:07
* yofel thought that was normal >.>21:07
clivejoconsidering I was running xenial the entire development stage and not a problem, this is not normal21:08
soeeahoneybun: well atm. all games work better on windows :/21:08
sgclarkthe linux version of your game not working?21:09
* clivejo reboots21:09
clivejoAGAIN21:09
clivejo5th time today, this is near as bad as windows21:10
mamarleysoee: That's not true.  Most open-source games actually run faster on Linux, assuming you are running the NVIDIA blob both places.21:10
sgclarklol too much going on to reboot21:10
sgclarkjust using gmail for the moment21:10
ahoneybunmamarley games with ports run better on Windows either way21:12
clivejoIm trying to get an email from LP to confirm my new super duper uber key21:12
ahoneybunBorderlands 2, Tomb Raider21:12
sgclarkclivejo: ah right and need to unlock it21:13
clivejoand still no email21:13
sgclark:(21:13
sgclarkmine works now with akonadi restart21:13
sgclarkfor the moment21:13
soeeahoneybun: i am almost @ final scenes :)21:14
ahoneybunI'm getting 3-4 FPS in the menus21:14
clivejoand firefox is freezing up on me too21:18
mamarleyIt depends on the quality of the port.  Yes, crappy ports will run crappily.  That isn't Linux's fault though.21:19
ahoneybunGearbox do solid work though21:25
soeeahoneybun: ROFL 21:26
ahoneybunI think it was because of me running without being connected to power21:26
ahoneybunreboooted and it works fine in the menu21:26
soee;)21:29
shadeslayer_sgclark: yofel ENOSRUBUG21:57
shadeslayer_so I didn't upload them yet21:57
shadeslayer_sgclark: congrats on getting into outreach :D22:00
sgclarkty22:03
clivejowhat is outreach?22:04
sgclarkinternship22:04
clivejowith?22:05
sgclarkhttps://www.gnome.org/outreachy/22:05
sgclarkshadeslayer_:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-ru/+bug/157645522:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576455 in kde-l10n-ru (Ubuntu Xenial) "SRu kde-l10n-* translation packages" [Undecided,New]22:06
clivejoeak, thats a bit sexist! no men allowed :/22:07
sgclarkif you can still upload great. if not I will try later22:07
shadeslayer_sgclark: ok, can you give me a tarball again ? I've apparently lost it22:07
shadeslayer_oh22:07
shadeslayer_no it22:07
shadeslayer_*it's here22:07
shadeslayer_will have to ammend changelog with SRU bug number22:07
clivejoits only for May - August 2016?22:08
shadeslayer_apparently this is busted22:09
sgclarkas one that has personal experience, it is very difficult to break into the tech industry as a women. That program is intended to break down that barrier.22:09
sgclarkdoesn't help though that I suck at tech interviews heh.22:09
sgclarkyeah only 3 months22:10
sgclarkbut every bit helps and it goes on my resume22:10
clivejovalorie: did you look into getting that instructions page fixed?22:11
valoriewhich instructions page?22:11
clivejohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenialUpgrades/Kubuntu22:11
shadeslayer_sgclark: plz recreate taraball with that SRU bug 22:11
valoriesexist? have you looked at stats re: women in tech?22:12
valoriehuh, link to a non-existant page22:13
valorieand yet I know we have one somewhere22:13
clivejoon http://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/22:13
clivejoClicking on the Upgrade Kubuntu 15.10 to 16.04 LTS if you are already running the previous release.22:13
clivejoalso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenialUpgrades/Kubuntu/14.04LTS22:14
clivejoblank too22:14
valoriewe have this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WilyUpgrades/Kubuntu22:14
clivejocan you copy it across and update the dists?22:14
valoriewe shouldn't really call it LTS until .0122:15
valorieI guess22:15
clivejomaybe a few current snapshots22:15
valorieI've been wiki-working for a few hours though and want to get outside22:15
valorieclivejo: can you write up a trello card with all that stuff for me?22:15
clivejoI cant get onto that wiki22:16
valorieI can22:16
valoriejust finished the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OtherProjectSchedules one22:16
valoriebleah22:16
valorieQt releases should be on there too22:16
valoriebut that's just history, and they are totally unreliable in their release sched. now22:17
sgclarkshadeslayer_:  re-running with bug number22:17
shadeslayer_thanks <322:18
shadeslayer_sgclark: u hero22:18
sgclark*hugs*22:18
shadeslayer_*hugs back*22:18
sgclarkshadeslayer_: my internet is being cranky, I will have to get it to you tomorrow if it does not let me upload it myself.23:06
shadeslayer_sure thing23:06

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