[00:47] <mwhudson> huh, shouldn't DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=-pie turn off PIE, even on yakkety?
[00:48] <slangasek> mwhudson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1576915
[00:49] <mwhudson> slangasek: whee!
[00:49] <mwhudson> slangasek: any eta on a fix?
[00:51] <mwhudson> golang-race-detector-runtime ftbfs in yakkety and setting DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=-pie would be the obvious fix
[00:51] <slangasek> mwhudson: nope, so far it's unassigned
[00:51] <slangasek> mwhudson: in absence of this, you can workaround it with DEB_CFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND=-no-pie, I think?
[00:52] <mwhudson> slangasek: i was trying to be clever and come up with something that would work on multiple releases :-)
[00:52] <mwhudson> but yeah
[00:52] <slangasek> heh yes
[00:53] <mwhudson> .. if i'm actually right about what's causing the failure
[00:55] <mwhudson> oh it's linking a test binary and it ignores LDFLAGS
[02:24] <kees> mwhudson: can you add the error you saw the description of the fix for it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain/CompilerFlags ? (it'll need a PIE section added)
[02:24] <kees> sbeattie: ^^ we should have a section on PIE here
[02:25] <mwhudson> sure
[02:25] <kees> sbeattie: and should likely be updated to discuss -fstack-protector-strong
[02:28] <mwhudson> well
[02:28] <mwhudson> i can make some edits and click save
[02:28] <mwhudson> i'm not responsible for what does or doesn't happen next :-)
[02:28] <mwhudson> kees: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain/CompilerFlags#thread_sanitizer_vs_PIE
[02:49] <kees> mwhudson: awesome! thanks :)
[02:50] <kees> mwhudson: oh, I thought you found a different solution (missing LDFLAGS?)
[02:50] <mwhudson> kees: that was specific to the package i was building
[02:50] <kees> or was it that both were needed?
[02:50] <mwhudson> yeah
[02:51] <kees> gotcha. thanks!
[11:02] <pitti> Good morning
[13:09] <arthur-dent> Could anyone tell me what has happened to the /var/log/boot.log file on Ubuntu 16.04 as it was present there on 15.10 but I can't find it on the latest version? Has it been removed and replaced or...?
[13:11] <dobey> arthur-dent: there's a boot.log for me
[13:16] <arthur-dent> Well, I, and many other users can seem to find it on a fresh install... It's there if you upgrade from a previous version with it, but not on a fresh install. Is it meant to be there?
[14:40] <tseliot> pitti: hi, do you know why u-d-c is still in yakkety-proposed?
[14:41] <infinity> tseliot: update_excuses knows.
[14:43] <tseliot> infinity: oh, nice, a totally unrelated regression...
[14:45] <tseliot> pitti: bcmwl fails for some reason https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-yakkety/yakkety/amd64/u/ubuntu-drivers-common/20160430_074409@/log.gz
[14:46] <infinity> "for some reason" probably has to do with -fPIE compiler changes.
[14:46] <infinity> It's an ongoing discussion.
[14:47] <tseliot> fun. How do I get around it?
[14:47] <infinity> Wait patiently?
[14:47] <infinity> Is it harming your life currently to have a package in proposed?
[14:48] <tseliot> not my life, as I don't use nvidia. Anybody who does, though, might beg to differ ;)
[14:48] <infinity> dkms on yakkety is hit and miss broken right now anyway, due to the compiler changes, so...
[14:49] <tseliot> ok, so it won't really make much of a difference after all
[14:49] <tseliot> fair enough
[16:02] <doko> Mirv, did you mean to turn on tests again in qtbase-opensource-src ?
[16:17] <slangasek> lan3y: hi, it appears that the new vala synced in yakkety causes build failures because we have an older version of gtk+3.0: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/16.10.0-0ubuntu2/+build/9679540 is gtk+3.0 merge on your todo?
[16:20] <infinity> slangasek: GTK merge is needed for a lot of things, the last word I got was that the desktop team needs to hunt someone down to fix the unity themes for the new GTK.
[16:20] <slangasek> k
[16:20] <seb128> slangasek, no, we might not update to 3.20 at all this cycle, see bug #1576576
[16:21] <slangasek> seb128: alrighty; then can someone fix vala instead? :)
[16:21] <seb128> sure
[16:22] <seb128> (not likely today though)
[16:27] <slangasek> seb128: sure :)  do you want a bug report or anything?
[16:28] <infinity> seb128: Oh, erk.  Last I heard wasn't that we wouldn't update at all...
[16:28] <infinity> seb128: There are autosyncs coming in that depend on it, so we'll have to sort out what to do about that.
[17:23] <seb128> slangasek, you can if you want but we are going to deal with those even without bug
[17:26] <seb128> infinity, well, we are not going to update if it breaks things, so we need to fix the themes and apps before updating, let's see if we get anyone stepping up to do that
[17:27] <seb128> our desktop team theme maintainer left and there is probably quite some non-trivial work to do there, which is not on the top of our priorities for the cycle
[17:28] <seb128> I doubt many things depends on new GTK, it's mostly GNOME usually and most of that has patches for unity or some delta, we might have to patch the use of new gtk out/revert for a few things though
[18:31] <showaz> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2016-May/003739.html  no minimal-cd network deploy?
[18:31] <showaz> 2gd + deploy kvm,vmware etc... time install downup
[19:14] <infinity> tjaalton: When do I get a xenial HWE stack?
[19:17] <dobey> hmm
[19:18] <xnox> cyphermox, apt install libu2f-host0
[19:18] <dobey> might be good to warn in very big and AMD-red letters that people staying on 14.04.x for fglrx support should NOT install the 14.04.5 xenial HWE stack?
[19:19] <infinity> dobey: That'll be super fun when we drop support for the previous stacks.
[19:20] <xnox> infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaboot/+bug/1400030
[19:20] <xnox> infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaboot/+bug/1575384
[19:21] <dobey> infinity: yeah; wonder what mark would say about it :)
[19:23] <cyphermox> xnox: installed
[19:45] <slangasek> cjwatson: hey, re: bug #1576353, either I'm misunderstanding something or you are
[20:18] <ochosi> seb128: just my 2 cents, the xubuntu theme is basically in a similar state as the unity themes (even a tad better, tbh) but gtk3.20 means a *rewrite*, not just some refactoring or incremental changes
[20:34] <tjaalton> dobey: already being discussed with amd and their hybrid driver schedule
[20:35] <tjaalton> infinity: soon
[20:50] <doko> infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1576915
[21:00] <seb128> ochosi, k, feel free to write that on the bug report, that's useful information, as said earlier we should try to break no flavor with the update so better to list things that needs to be worked on before landing
[21:25] <cjwatson> slangasek: the man pages are clear as mud, but I think I see what you mean from the linked blog posts.  It would be a big patch though, and not one I'm willing to maintain as a distro patch or (TBH) write myself; needs to go upstream
[21:55] <slangasek> cjwatson: check :)
[22:05] <de-facto> how do i install all build-dependencies when im inside a package root directory (which has "debian" dir inside it) from a script?
[22:06] <de-facto> e.g. those shown as error when i run dpkg-buildpackage
[22:06] <de-facto> i want to install them in a automated way
[22:06] <slangasek> de-facto: by running 'sudo mk-build-deps -i -r'
[22:10] <mwhudson> you can point apt build-dep at the dsc as well
[22:10] <de-facto> nice can i default to "yes dont ask me just install them"?
[22:11] <de-facto> i just have a "debian" dir
[22:13] <de-facto> i want this to run through in a script without user interaction
[22:17] <de-facto> something like     mk-build-deps ; sudo dpkg -i *.deb ; rm *.deb ; sudo apt-get -y -f install     maybe?
[22:21] <mwhudson> de-facto: did you see the flags slangasek mentioned?
[22:21] <mwhudson> -i -r
[22:22] <slangasek> fwiw if you want to skip the apt install prompt you need an extra -t 'apt-get o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes -y'
[22:25] <de-facto> ah nice thats what i need ;))
[22:29] <de-facto> sudo mk-build-deps -i -r -t 'apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes --no-install-recommends -y'
[22:29] <de-facto> seems to work thanks guys
[22:46] <rlaager> Does anyone have a fresh *GUI* install of 16.04 handy? I'm looking for the group memberships of a user created by the installer. A server install has adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lxd lpadmin sambashare.
[22:54] <de-facto> rlaager its not completely fresh but i guess on ubuntu-gnome it would be something like <username> adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[23:29] <rlaager> de-facto: Thanks.