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dobeylauri: partitions are different, so you need tools from meizu to repartition the storage on the device, and also needs to have an unlocked bootloader.02:18
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mardymzanetti: hi! I see you filed bug 1577002 -- it's essentially the same as bug 1454210, it seems09:46
ubot5bug 1577002 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Running app from QtCreator wipes associated accounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157700209:46
ubot5bug 1454210 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "accounts are lost each time the app is updated from the store or run on the device from qtc" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145421009:46
mardymzanetti: back then, what I fixed in OA is that we wouldn't remove accounts when upgrading an app09:47
mardymzanetti: but if the app is removed and reinstalled, than that's a different story, and I don't know how to fix that (I think that the current behaviour is correct)09:48
mzanettimardy, well, makes people not use OA when developing an app09:54
mzanettibecause this is such a pain, implementing Oauth myself is easier than dealing with this09:54
mardymzanetti: I'm not saying it's not a bug :-)09:54
mardymzanetti: but I suspect that the bug is in QtC09:55
mardymzanetti: actually, let me comment on the bug09:55
mzanettiplease do :)09:55
mzanettizbenjamin, you might be interested in this: ^09:55
zbenjaminmzanetti: mardy: well it was a requirement that after the execution of an app the system is left in a clean state.09:56
zbenjaminso the behaviour of uninstalling the app is correct09:57
mardymzanetti: done09:57
zbenjaminbut you can opt out in the run setting09:57
mzanettizbenjamin, I always opt out of that. still drops my OA accounts09:57
zbenjaminmzanetti: then the reinstall drops then09:57
mzanettizbenjamin, and I still disagree that it's correct behavior09:57
mzanettiI'd say it's a bug in the click hook thing that it doesn't trigger them when just overwriting-installing an app09:58
mzanettialso I'm not sure if dropping OA accounts upon app installation is a good thing to do...09:59
zbenjaminmzanetti: yeah i cannot do much more from the QtC side than not uninstalling. And that the new version of the app needs to be installed before executing is something we all agree on right ;)09:59
mzanettizbenjamin, mardy: So. I unchecked "Uninstall after finished", ran reminders twice. the second time all my accounts were lost10:07
zbenjaminmzanetti: could you verify that it was not uninstalled?`10:07
mardymzanetti: do you know if click keeps a log of its operations?10:08
mzanettimardy, I don't know, sorry10:08
mzanettizbenjamin, any idea how?10:08
mzanettithe script is rather quick10:08
mzanettiwell, I can check if it doesn't unisntall after stopping it10:08
zbenjaminmzanetti: well after you stop your app, check on the phone if its still there10:08
mzanettiyes, still here10:09
mzanettilog also says: Sdk-Launcher> Skipping uninstall step (--no-uninstall)10:09
mzanettijust installing the package manually with pkcon doesn't wipe the account... weird10:12
mzanettibut clicking on play in QtC immediately wipes it10:13
mzanettizbenjamin, ^10:13
b0s3dhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-10 line 108 word 310:29
b0s3dAlso worth noting. <- Also worth knowing. <-?10:29
b0s3dline 108 word 3 > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-1010:30
zbenjaminmzanetti: hm let me see the command the qtc uses to install10:37
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zbenjaminmzanetti: "pkcon","--allow-untrusted","install-local",options.clickPck,"-p"10:41
zbenjaminmzanetti: how did you install it?10:41
mzanettipkcon install-local --allow-untrusted package.click10:41
zbenjaminmzanetti: meh, i might remember now .... The scopes require me when overriding a package to  uninstall it10:41
zbenjaminmzanetti: do you see that in the log?  Uninstalling already installed package (--force-install)10:42
mzanettiyes10:42
mzanettizbenjamin, scopes should not require you to do so. did you file a bug for them?10:43
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zbenjaminmzanetti: no, i do not remember the exact reason why i had to do this though12:22
zbenjaminmzanetti: so the reason was:  the scope may still be running and we need a clean state12:23
zbenjaminmzanetti: since a scope does not have a real stopped state this was required to force the scope registry to stop12:23
mzanettiI see12:25
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zbenjaminmzanetti: shold we report a bug?12:42
zbenjaminmzanetti: something like "Provide a way to make sure a scope is stopped"12:42
mzanettizbenjamin, I haven't understand why you'd need to stop a scope12:44
zbenjaminmzanetti: well if your scope is already running , pushing the same query to it again would just show a cached version, for example12:45
zbenjaminmzanetti: also for debugging it is essential the process is not running so it can be started with gdb attached12:45
mzanettiand uninstalling helps with that?12:46
dobeylauri: i don't know if the bootloader is locked on ubuntu edition or not; i would suspect it might be. you have to ask meizu13:06
zbenjaminmzanetti: yes, it forces the scope registry to stop the scope13:06
zbenjaminmzanetti: the scopes are sadly not that easiest to support because of their stateless nature13:07
mzanettizbenjamin, I think they should make sure to reload the thing when it changes on disk13:07
zbenjaminmzanetti: see my comment. I suggested the same13:08
dobeyb0s3d: how does one know which line is 100?13:09
dobeyoh you are suggesting a correction13:10
dobeyshould be a comma i guess13:10
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b0s3ddobey: select all, copy past > gedit13:23
b0s3ddobey: select all, copy past > gedit13:24
b0s3dAlso worth noting. <- Also worth knowing.13:24
dobeyno, it shouldn't be knowing13:24
dobeynoting is fine there, but it should be a comma instead of a period13:25
b0s3dok :)13:26
danimanHello, I am new for using Ubuntu on phones, how can I limit my data usage? Anything I should disable? Because data charges are very high13:27
MasseRHave to say, ubuntu tablet wasn't a good fit for taking notes and flying a plane at the same time. (or rather the hardware I'm using)13:31
MasseRFor some reason, vibration, heat or something it registered a touch event, even if my finger wasn't close to touching yet13:32
danimanAnyone???13:32
Zichi, I am asking myself if all Ubuntu Touch CoreApps will be part of Unity 8 for Desktop? aka replacing all GNOME actual apps of Unity 7. do you have any clue?13:37
pmcgowanZic, they are available for Unity8 but will not replace "legacy" apps for some time13:47
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dobeypmcgowan: "avaialble"13:49
dobeyi don't think they're being built as fat packages in the store, so installing them on x86 might require building click packages from source, and then installing those13:50
dobeyat least, at the moment13:50
pmcgowanhmm, should fix that prolly13:51
peat-psuwitI'm working on camera-app code about supported video resolution selection. Which branch should I send merge proposal on?14:33
* ogra_ always thought we get that list from the driver14:34
peat-psuwitogra_: Originally when selected resolution isn't supported it'll use last one in supported list assuming it's highest one.14:38
peat-psuwitProblem is, on my device that's not the case. So my code loop over all resolutions and select highest one.14:39
JanCwouldn't it be better to sort the list before the apps get it?14:48
dobeysort what list?14:50
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peat-psuwitAnyone with supported device: please go to camera app, switch to video mode, swipe the bottom edge, press "HD" button, and then tell me how it's ordered? (highest resolution on top or bottom)16:16
pmcgowanpeat-psuwit, highest on top16:21
peat-psuwitpmcgowan: Thank you. That confirm my theory. (Because on my device highest is on bottom.) What device is that BTW?16:23
pmcgowanpeat-psuwit, that was mx4,16:24
JanChighest on top here too16:24
peat-psuwitJanC: What device is that?16:25
JanCbq aquaris 4.516:25
JanCdo the Android specs say something about that?16:31
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peat-psuwitI can't find anything about ordering.16:48
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dobey2703 1006      20   0    4808   2444    884 R  99.7  0.1 333:37.58 mm-qcamera+17:21
dobeywell that's not good :(17:21
ogra_well, you still have 0.1% idle left17:22
dobeyogra_: i happened to copy/paste at one second of the top refresh when it wasn't at 100.017:23
ogra_:)17:23
robinherohey guys, can somebody tell me why there's no image for today in the rc-proposed channel? I'm waiting for some really good fixes :D18:08
pmcgowanrobinhero, there is a bad regression we are trying to fix quickly18:10
robinheropmcgowan, oh okay, is there a bug report where I can follow the status of this regression? Is it possible that you can fix this issue today? Or I need to wait until tomorrow for the new release? :)18:12
pmcgowanrobinhero, we have a fix but there is an odd build issue, should be resolved today for a build tomorrow18:13
robinheroOK, thanks for the info18:13
pmcgowanrobinhero, this is the bug  https://launchpad.net/bugs/157518418:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1575184 in Ubuntu Push Notifications "ubuntu-push is flooding dbus with NameOwnerChanged signals" [High,In progress]18:13
dobeyrobinhero: what fix are you waiting for exactly?18:16
robinherodobey, the cellular data switch on the indicator and the Camera's controls fix in landscape mode18:18
dobeyrobinhero: the cellular data switch hasn't landed yet18:18
robinherodobey, Hmm, you are right, I've just realized that silo only contains the new string, not the funcion. :(18:20
dobeyrobinhero: right, was to get it in for the string freeze on friday18:21
dobey(last friday)18:21
nana_what can i do about this? http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/f9139ccb19:02
peat-psuwitnana_: run "apt-cache policy ubuntu-device-flash"19:03
nana_http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/8e09329719:04
nana_i am running a livecd, can it have something to do with it ?19:06
dobeynana_: no, that shouldn't be the issue19:07
dobeyneed to find out what the other packages aren't installable19:07
dobeyie try to install android-tools-adb19:07
peat-psuwitnana_: OK. Go to "Software & Updates", then choose (universe)].19:07
nana_peat-psuwit: that did it19:10
nana_android-tools-adb got installed among other packages19:11
peat-psuwitnana_: glad to hear that.19:11
nana_bye ^^19:12
nana_i think i am doing this wrong lol, http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/a8510aea19:42
dobeynana_: you need ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris-pd.en19:44
dobeynot /ubuntu19:44
nana_thank you!19:45
dobeynana_: also, you need the recovery image19:45
dobeynana_: http://people.canonical.com/~abeato/avila/cooler/recovery-cooler.img19:45
nana_i have it on a usb, i have started the process, is it to late?19:45
dobeynana_: you need to pass that with --recovery-image to ubuntu-device-flash19:46
nana_should  cancel?19:46
dobeyyes19:46
dobeyand run with --recovery-image after downloading that link i pasted19:47
nana_thank god it didn't brick19:48
nana_ubuntu-device-flash --revocery-image /path/to/recovery-cooler.img touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris-pd.en --bootstrap ?19:48
dobeyi think --recovery-image goes after touch19:50
dobeybut i don't recall exactly19:50
dobeyare you trying to flash an m10 which came with ubuntu? or one which came with android?19:50
nana_yes, it was to buggy19:51
nana_http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/a0533b3f19:53
dobeynana_: you typoed the argument19:54
dobeyit's recovery not revocery :)19:54
nana_http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/3817669619:56
nana_(: lol19:56
dobeynana_: the device came with android on it or ubuntu? which one?19:57
nana_ubuntu19:58
nana_but it sucked, so i want to change it19:58
dobeyweird. looks like the partitions are somehow wrong19:58
nana_it was like a cheap china copy19:58
dobeyi'm confused19:58
dobeywhat was wrong exactly?19:58
OZ6PMBdobey: She couldn't install via apt-get on it ;P19:59
nana_everything, look, feel, bugs.. chess for an example or tuxrace, camera was buggy due to screen rotation20:00
dobeynana_: how do you think reflashing will help?20:00
dobeyit sounds like reflashing isn't likely to help20:01
pmcgowanI think the intent is android20:01
nana_u_u20:01
nana_giving it a try might20:01
OZ6PMBTruth be told, the M10 isn't the "flagship tablet/computer" it was hyped up to be :(20:01
dobeyi've not heard anyone use the term flagship20:02
dobeyor tablet/computer20:02
OZ6PMBNo they haven't, It's just me reading too much into the advertising material20:04
d0odit was described as "capable" and "the tablet that can replace your pc"20:04
d0odbut yeah, flagship was never used20:05
dobeyit is capable, and it can replace a PC for some people whose use of a PC is mostly what one does on a tablet20:05
OZ6PMBSilly me for assuming a brand new tablet in 2016 would run youtube smoothly on lowest quality and for believing that qtCreator could actually run on it just because all the developer advertisments showed it20:05
OZ6PMBI still really like it and look forward to the bug of the AltGr not working being fixed so I can start coding on it. Just wish May 25th would come a bit sooner :)20:06
dobeyqtcreator can run on it. it's just a bit troublesome to do at the momemt, but that's being fixed20:08
dobeyi don't know about youtube (and i don't have an m10 myself)20:08
dobeyand if you want to install things with apt-get, there's https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#62331120:09
OZ6PMBI spent most of my saturday trying to get gvim and gcc running, (using that link and others) but I still need to just run vim from the terminal20:10
OZ6PMBWorst part though is the AltGr problem that is set to be fixed in OTA1120:10
dobeywhich, if you want to do CLI-only stuff, is the best option right now. if you want to run X apps, libertine will be the better option. when a few issues are fixed with it (should be in the next few weeks i hope), i'll update the answer for using that20:10
nana_freaking worked you guys! i am in the menu20:11
nana_:D20:11
nana_but same snack all over again20:13
dobeytold you it wouldn't help :)20:13
nana_nmad20:13
dobeynot sure what exact issues you're having though20:14
nana_micro sd is useable, and such things20:15
nana_useless.. sorry20:15
CheeryLeeHello guys! I'm still porting UT on my tablet. Now initrd boots successfully, but after it i get kernel panic. It says that i have too old kernel version (i have 3.0.x). What am I doing wrong?20:16
CheeryLeeI have no newer version. :(20:16
nana_Thanks for the help guys, at least it was worth the try :)20:18
nana_take care20:18
CheeryLeeOhh, I completely forgot: I'm using Arch Linux on my host machine. Maybe Glibc is incompatible?20:21
dobeyCheeryLee: how did you get 3.0? you need to build from android 4.4 which is kernel 3.420:22
CheeryLeeThis is kernel for my Note 10.120:22
CheeryLeeI'm using CM 12 branch which is 3.0 too20:23
dobeyisn't cm 12 supposed to be android 5?20:27
OZ6PMBpoor nana_ Now she'll never know her card is actually mounted and that she just needs to activate seeing it in the file manager (for some obscure reason)20:28
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AuroraAvenuehttps://www.bountysource.com/issues/30551831-no-caldav-and-icalendar-support21:26
AuroraAvenue2 fiddy .21:26
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nik90[=78622:18
Acou_Bassquestion - how often do the rc branches usually update? more for curiosity than anything22:41
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