[02:18] <dobey> lauri: partitions are different, so you need tools from meizu to repartition the storage on the device, and also needs to have an unlocked bootloader.
[06:43] <brestows> exit
[09:46] <mardy> mzanetti: hi! I see you filed bug 1577002 -- it's essentially the same as bug 1454210, it seems
[09:47] <mardy> mzanetti: back then, what I fixed in OA is that we wouldn't remove accounts when upgrading an app
[09:48] <mardy> mzanetti: but if the app is removed and reinstalled, than that's a different story, and I don't know how to fix that (I think that the current behaviour is correct)
[09:54] <mzanetti> mardy, well, makes people not use OA when developing an app
[09:54] <mzanetti> because this is such a pain, implementing Oauth myself is easier than dealing with this
[09:54] <mardy> mzanetti: I'm not saying it's not a bug :-)
[09:55] <mardy> mzanetti: but I suspect that the bug is in QtC
[09:55] <mardy> mzanetti: actually, let me comment on the bug
[09:55] <mzanetti> please do :)
[09:55] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, you might be interested in this: ^
[09:56] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: mardy: well it was a requirement that after the execution of an app the system is left in a clean state.
[09:57] <zbenjamin> so the behaviour of uninstalling the app is correct
[09:57] <mardy> mzanetti: done
[09:57] <zbenjamin> but you can opt out in the run setting
[09:57] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, I always opt out of that. still drops my OA accounts
[09:57] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: then the reinstall drops then
[09:57] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, and I still disagree that it's correct behavior
[09:58] <mzanetti> I'd say it's a bug in the click hook thing that it doesn't trigger them when just overwriting-installing an app
[09:59] <mzanetti> also I'm not sure if dropping OA accounts upon app installation is a good thing to do...
[09:59] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: yeah i cannot do much more from the QtC side than not uninstalling. And that the new version of the app needs to be installed before executing is something we all agree on right ;)
[10:07] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, mardy: So. I unchecked "Uninstall after finished", ran reminders twice. the second time all my accounts were lost
[10:07] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: could you verify that it was not uninstalled?`
[10:08] <mardy> mzanetti: do you know if click keeps a log of its operations?
[10:08] <mzanetti> mardy, I don't know, sorry
[10:08] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, any idea how?
[10:08] <mzanetti> the script is rather quick
[10:08] <mzanetti> well, I can check if it doesn't unisntall after stopping it
[10:08] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: well after you stop your app, check on the phone if its still there
[10:09] <mzanetti> yes, still here
[10:09] <mzanetti> log also says: Sdk-Launcher> Skipping uninstall step (--no-uninstall)
[10:12] <mzanetti> just installing the package manually with pkcon doesn't wipe the account... weird
[10:13] <mzanetti> but clicking on play in QtC immediately wipes it
[10:13] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, ^
[10:29] <b0s3d> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-10 line 108 word 3
[10:29] <b0s3d> Also worth noting. <- Also worth knowing. <-?
[10:30] <b0s3d> line 108 word 3 > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-10
[10:37] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: hm let me see the command the qtc uses to install
[10:41] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: "pkcon","--allow-untrusted","install-local",options.clickPck,"-p"
[10:41] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: how did you install it?
[10:41] <mzanetti> pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted package.click
[10:41] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: meh, i might remember now .... The scopes require me when overriding a package to  uninstall it
[10:42] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: do you see that in the log?  Uninstalling already installed package (--force-install)
[10:42] <mzanetti> yes
[10:43] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, scopes should not require you to do so. did you file a bug for them?
[12:22] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: no, i do not remember the exact reason why i had to do this though
[12:23] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: so the reason was:  the scope may still be running and we need a clean state
[12:23] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: since a scope does not have a real stopped state this was required to force the scope registry to stop
[12:25] <mzanetti> I see
[12:42] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: shold we report a bug?
[12:42] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: something like "Provide a way to make sure a scope is stopped"
[12:44] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, I haven't understand why you'd need to stop a scope
[12:45] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: well if your scope is already running , pushing the same query to it again would just show a cached version, for example
[12:45] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: also for debugging it is essential the process is not running so it can be started with gdb attached
[12:46] <mzanetti> and uninstalling helps with that?
[13:06] <dobey> lauri: i don't know if the bootloader is locked on ubuntu edition or not; i would suspect it might be. you have to ask meizu
[13:06] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: yes, it forces the scope registry to stop the scope
[13:07] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: the scopes are sadly not that easiest to support because of their stateless nature
[13:07] <mzanetti> zbenjamin, I think they should make sure to reload the thing when it changes on disk
[13:08] <zbenjamin> mzanetti: see my comment. I suggested the same
[13:09] <dobey> b0s3d: how does one know which line is 100?
[13:10] <dobey> oh you are suggesting a correction
[13:10] <dobey> should be a comma i guess
[13:23] <b0s3d> dobey: select all, copy past > gedit
[13:24] <b0s3d> dobey: select all, copy past > gedit
[13:24] <b0s3d> Also worth noting. <- Also worth knowing.
[13:24] <dobey> no, it shouldn't be knowing
[13:25] <dobey> noting is fine there, but it should be a comma instead of a period
[13:26] <b0s3d> ok :)
[13:27] <daniman> Hello, I am new for using Ubuntu on phones, how can I limit my data usage? Anything I should disable? Because data charges are very high
[13:31] <MasseR> Have to say, ubuntu tablet wasn't a good fit for taking notes and flying a plane at the same time. (or rather the hardware I'm using)
[13:32] <MasseR> For some reason, vibration, heat or something it registered a touch event, even if my finger wasn't close to touching yet
[13:32] <daniman> Anyone???
[13:37] <Zic> hi, I am asking myself if all Ubuntu Touch CoreApps will be part of Unity 8 for Desktop? aka replacing all GNOME actual apps of Unity 7. do you have any clue?
[13:47] <pmcgowan> Zic, they are available for Unity8 but will not replace "legacy" apps for some time
[13:49] <dobey> pmcgowan: "avaialble"
[13:50] <dobey> i don't think they're being built as fat packages in the store, so installing them on x86 might require building click packages from source, and then installing those
[13:50] <dobey> at least, at the moment
[13:51] <pmcgowan> hmm, should fix that prolly
[14:33] <peat-psuwit> I'm working on camera-app code about supported video resolution selection. Which branch should I send merge proposal on?
[14:34]  * ogra_ always thought we get that list from the driver
[14:38] <peat-psuwit> ogra_: Originally when selected resolution isn't supported it'll use last one in supported list assuming it's highest one.
[14:39] <peat-psuwit> Problem is, on my device that's not the case. So my code loop over all resolutions and select highest one.
[14:48] <JanC> wouldn't it be better to sort the list before the apps get it?
[14:50] <dobey> sort what list?
[16:16] <peat-psuwit> Anyone with supported device: please go to camera app, switch to video mode, swipe the bottom edge, press "HD" button, and then tell me how it's ordered? (highest resolution on top or bottom)
[16:21] <pmcgowan> peat-psuwit, highest on top
[16:23] <peat-psuwit> pmcgowan: Thank you. That confirm my theory. (Because on my device highest is on bottom.) What device is that BTW?
[16:24] <pmcgowan> peat-psuwit, that was mx4,
[16:24] <JanC> highest on top here too
[16:25] <peat-psuwit> JanC: What device is that?
[16:25] <JanC> bq aquaris 4.5
[16:31] <JanC> do the Android specs say something about that?
[16:32]  * peat-psuwit looking up
[16:48] <peat-psuwit> I can't find anything about ordering.
[17:21] <dobey> 2703 1006      20   0    4808   2444    884 R  99.7  0.1 333:37.58 mm-qcamera+
[17:21] <dobey> well that's not good :(
[17:22] <ogra_> well, you still have 0.1% idle left
[17:23] <dobey> ogra_: i happened to copy/paste at one second of the top refresh when it wasn't at 100.0
[17:23] <ogra_> :)
[18:08] <robinhero> hey guys, can somebody tell me why there's no image for today in the rc-proposed channel? I'm waiting for some really good fixes :D
[18:10] <pmcgowan> robinhero, there is a bad regression we are trying to fix quickly
[18:12] <robinhero> pmcgowan, oh okay, is there a bug report where I can follow the status of this regression? Is it possible that you can fix this issue today? Or I need to wait until tomorrow for the new release? :)
[18:13] <pmcgowan> robinhero, we have a fix but there is an odd build issue, should be resolved today for a build tomorrow
[18:13] <robinhero> OK, thanks for the info
[18:13] <pmcgowan> robinhero, this is the bug  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575184
[18:16] <dobey> robinhero: what fix are you waiting for exactly?
[18:18] <robinhero> dobey, the cellular data switch on the indicator and the Camera's controls fix in landscape mode
[18:18] <dobey> robinhero: the cellular data switch hasn't landed yet
[18:20] <robinhero> dobey, Hmm, you are right, I've just realized that silo only contains the new string, not the funcion. :(
[18:21] <dobey> robinhero: right, was to get it in for the string freeze on friday
[18:21] <dobey> (last friday)
[19:02] <nana_> what can i do about this? http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/f9139ccb
[19:03] <peat-psuwit> nana_: run "apt-cache policy ubuntu-device-flash"
[19:04] <nana_> http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/8e093297
[19:06] <nana_> i am running a livecd, can it have something to do with it ?
[19:07] <dobey> nana_: no, that shouldn't be the issue
[19:07] <dobey> need to find out what the other packages aren't installable
[19:07] <dobey> ie try to install android-tools-adb
[19:07] <peat-psuwit> nana_: OK. Go to "Software & Updates", then choose (universe)].
[19:10] <nana_> peat-psuwit: that did it
[19:11] <nana_> android-tools-adb got installed among other packages
[19:11] <peat-psuwit> nana_: glad to hear that.
[19:12] <nana_> bye ^^
[19:42] <nana_> i think i am doing this wrong lol, http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/a8510aea
[19:44] <dobey> nana_: you need ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris-pd.en
[19:44] <dobey> not /ubuntu
[19:45] <nana_> thank you!
[19:45] <dobey> nana_: also, you need the recovery image
[19:45] <dobey> nana_: http://people.canonical.com/~abeato/avila/cooler/recovery-cooler.img
[19:45] <nana_> i have it on a usb, i have started the process, is it to late?
[19:46] <dobey> nana_: you need to pass that with --recovery-image to ubuntu-device-flash
[19:46] <nana_> should  cancel?
[19:46] <dobey> yes
[19:47] <dobey> and run with --recovery-image after downloading that link i pasted
[19:48] <nana_> thank god it didn't brick
[19:48] <nana_> ubuntu-device-flash --revocery-image /path/to/recovery-cooler.img touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris-pd.en --bootstrap ?
[19:50] <dobey> i think --recovery-image goes after touch
[19:50] <dobey> but i don't recall exactly
[19:50] <dobey> are you trying to flash an m10 which came with ubuntu? or one which came with android?
[19:51] <nana_> yes, it was to buggy
[19:53] <nana_> http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/a0533b3f
[19:54] <dobey> nana_: you typoed the argument
[19:54] <dobey> it's recovery not revocery :)
[19:56] <nana_> http://paste.linux.chat/view/raw/38176696
[19:56] <nana_> (: lol
[19:57] <dobey> nana_: the device came with android on it or ubuntu? which one?
[19:58] <nana_> ubuntu
[19:58] <nana_> but it sucked, so i want to change it
[19:58] <dobey> weird. looks like the partitions are somehow wrong
[19:58] <nana_> it was like a cheap china copy
[19:58] <dobey> i'm confused
[19:58] <dobey> what was wrong exactly?
[19:59] <OZ6PMB> dobey: She couldn't install via apt-get on it ;P
[20:00] <nana_> everything, look, feel, bugs.. chess for an example or tuxrace, camera was buggy due to screen rotation
[20:00] <dobey> nana_: how do you think reflashing will help?
[20:01] <dobey> it sounds like reflashing isn't likely to help
[20:01] <pmcgowan> I think the intent is android
[20:01] <nana_> u_u
[20:01] <nana_> giving it a try might
[20:01] <OZ6PMB> Truth be told, the M10 isn't the "flagship tablet/computer" it was hyped up to be :(
[20:02] <dobey> i've not heard anyone use the term flagship
[20:02] <dobey> or tablet/computer
[20:04] <OZ6PMB> No they haven't, It's just me reading too much into the advertising material
[20:04] <d0od> it was described as "capable" and "the tablet that can replace your pc"
[20:05] <d0od> but yeah, flagship was never used
[20:05] <dobey> it is capable, and it can replace a PC for some people whose use of a PC is mostly what one does on a tablet
[20:05] <OZ6PMB> Silly me for assuming a brand new tablet in 2016 would run youtube smoothly on lowest quality and for believing that qtCreator could actually run on it just because all the developer advertisments showed it
[20:06] <OZ6PMB> I still really like it and look forward to the bug of the AltGr not working being fixed so I can start coding on it. Just wish May 25th would come a bit sooner :)
[20:08] <dobey> qtcreator can run on it. it's just a bit troublesome to do at the momemt, but that's being fixed
[20:08] <dobey> i don't know about youtube (and i don't have an m10 myself)
[20:09] <dobey> and if you want to install things with apt-get, there's https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#623311
[20:10] <OZ6PMB> I spent most of my saturday trying to get gvim and gcc running, (using that link and others) but I still need to just run vim from the terminal
[20:10] <OZ6PMB> Worst part though is the AltGr problem that is set to be fixed in OTA11
[20:10] <dobey> which, if you want to do CLI-only stuff, is the best option right now. if you want to run X apps, libertine will be the better option. when a few issues are fixed with it (should be in the next few weeks i hope), i'll update the answer for using that
[20:11] <nana_> freaking worked you guys! i am in the menu
[20:11] <nana_> :D
[20:13] <nana_> but same snack all over again
[20:13] <dobey> told you it wouldn't help :)
[20:13] <nana_> nmad
[20:14] <dobey> not sure what exact issues you're having though
[20:15] <nana_> micro sd is useable, and such things
[20:15] <nana_> useless.. sorry
[20:16] <CheeryLee> Hello guys! I'm still porting UT on my tablet. Now initrd boots successfully, but after it i get kernel panic. It says that i have too old kernel version (i have 3.0.x). What am I doing wrong?
[20:16] <CheeryLee> I have no newer version. :(
[20:18] <nana_> Thanks for the help guys, at least it was worth the try :)
[20:18] <nana_> take care
[20:21] <CheeryLee> Ohh, I completely forgot: I'm using Arch Linux on my host machine. Maybe Glibc is incompatible?
[20:22] <dobey> CheeryLee: how did you get 3.0? you need to build from android 4.4 which is kernel 3.4
[20:22] <CheeryLee> This is kernel for my Note 10.1
[20:23] <CheeryLee> I'm using CM 12 branch which is 3.0 too
[20:27] <dobey> isn't cm 12 supposed to be android 5?
[20:28] <OZ6PMB> poor nana_ Now she'll never know her card is actually mounted and that she just needs to activate seeing it in the file manager (for some obscure reason)
[21:26] <AuroraAvenue> https://www.bountysource.com/issues/30551831-no-caldav-and-icalendar-support
[21:26] <AuroraAvenue> 2 fiddy .
[22:18] <nik90> [=786
[22:41] <Acou_Bass> question - how often do the rc branches usually update? more for curiosity than anything