Trixar_za | Done that before - and recursive setting of permissions to /etc instead of just one file once :( | 00:08 |
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Kilos | morning everyone | 05:28 |
mazal | Mornings | 07:10 |
gremble | Good morning | 07:28 |
Kilos | hi mazal gremble | 08:04 |
gremble | Good morning Kilos | 08:05 |
gremble | How are you today? | 08:05 |
Kilos | im good ty and you | 08:05 |
Kilos | was kinda cold this morning early | 08:05 |
gremble | It is still kind of brisk | 08:07 |
gremble | It is nice. It is that cold like your mouth is after you've brushed your teeth | 08:07 |
Kilos | lol | 08:08 |
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Kilos | hi inetpro superfly maia is ordering 16.04 stuff for us | 08:58 |
Kilos | glad she is ok | 08:59 |
gremble_ | My internet has gone to shit :/ | 09:28 |
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Kilos | ai! | 09:34 |
mazal | Wat de !!! Something is laughing at me in MC ? | 09:56 |
inetpro | Kilos: see, you just need a bit of patience at times | 09:59 |
inetpro | oh and good mornings btw as well | 09:59 |
Kilos | yes inetpro but now we cant find the link where to order | 09:59 |
Kilos | sigh | 10:00 |
mazal | I would like to buy one of those stick. Does one do it on website ? | 10:00 |
Kilos | yes mazal you can | 10:00 |
inetpro | Kilos: didn't I just say you need patience? | 10:00 |
Kilos | Maaz google where to buy 16.04 flash drives | 10:01 |
Maaz | Kilos: "Canonical Store Adds Bootable Ubuntu 16.04 USB Stick - OMG ..." http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/buy-ubuntu-16-04-usb-official :: "OSDisc.com - Buy Linux CDs, DVDs, USB Flash Drives, Books ..." https://www.osdisc.com/ :: "OSDisc.com - Linux, Ubuntu" https://www.osdisc.com/products/linux/ubuntu :: "How to Install The Real Ubuntu System on USB Flash Drive | 10:01 |
Maaz | ..." http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/11/install-real-ubuntu-os-usb-drive/ :: "Ubu… | 10:01 |
mazal | Problem would be to get it here | 10:01 |
mazal | SA don't have post office | 10:01 |
Kilos | i hear the pretty cover wears off, so dont use too often if you want it for looks | 10:01 |
Kilos | we are trying to order as well mazal | 10:02 |
mazal | Ag no , I want one for the looks | 10:02 |
Kilos | then the first link i think | 10:02 |
Kilos | inetpro orders should have been in before end of april | 10:03 |
Kilos | i should have started looking for maia earlier | 10:03 |
inetpro_ | nee man, wat maak jy? | 10:37 |
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Kilos | nie ek nie man | 10:40 |
Kilos | inetpro wat het ek nou verkeerd gedoen | 10:52 |
Kilos | ai! | 10:52 |
mazal | Oom Kilos , my laaste 5 dae se werk: https://bin.snyman.info/mmm5h6hs | 11:21 |
Kilos | hmm... | 11:40 |
Kilos | als links na prentjies? | 11:41 |
mazal | Yep , my subway is klaar | 11:57 |
Kilos | prentjies eet data seun | 11:57 |
Kilos | is dit minecraft mazal | 11:57 |
mazal | Yep | 11:58 |
Kilos | is dit ook voltyds online data vreter | 11:58 |
mazal | Hy gebruik omtrent 4 keer minder data | 11:58 |
Kilos | en kos wat om te begin | 11:59 |
mazal | Toe ek gekoop het was $27 | 11:59 |
mazal | Weet nie wat is hy nou nie | 11:59 |
Kilos | sjoe | 11:59 |
Kilos | julle ryk mense | 12:00 |
mazal | Nie rêrig nie, mens eet meer in 'n paar dae as dit | 12:04 |
Kilos | hahahaha | 12:05 |
Kilos | i would rather feed my fat tummy | 12:06 |
mazal | Dis so , daai is maar twee dae se eet | 12:06 |
Kilos | as jy takeaways koop ja | 12:06 |
Kilos | ek kan heelwat kos maak met daai geld | 12:07 |
mazal | Kook kos is maar net so duur. Mens kry nie meer goedkoop kos nie. Net 'n brood is al R12 | 12:07 |
Kilos | R8.99 at checkers | 12:08 |
Kilos | R383 | 12:10 |
Kilos | sak meel en klomp maalvleis en groente | 12:10 |
mazal | Dankie ANC. Toe ek gekoop het was dit so R250 | 12:11 |
Kilos | lol | 12:11 |
mazal | Waarheid. Hulle trek die land deur hulle gatte en die rand waarde en ons lei daaronder | 12:11 |
Kilos | ssshhhhhhh | 12:12 |
Kilos | no politics | 12:12 |
mazal | Is feite | 12:12 |
Kilos | we know but there is no such thing as freedom of speach | 12:13 |
Kilos | speech | 12:13 |
Kilos | sjoe | 12:13 |
Kilos | Maaz spell speech | 12:13 |
Maaz | Kilos: Looks good to me | 12:13 |
Kilos | ai! | 12:13 |
mazal | Not in SA anyway | 12:13 |
mazal | No freedom at all | 12:13 |
Kilos | must be my eyes | 12:13 |
mazal | Pitty I did those pic uploads , otherwise I could have checked the data use | 12:18 |
mazal | Know how long I played today , but those pic uploads will mess the total up a bit | 12:18 |
Kilos | i dont think odd pics is much | 12:19 |
Kilos | but more than text anyway | 12:19 |
mazal | I used 300mb today. That's for mail , browsing , pic uploads , irc , and about 4 hours of mc | 12:20 |
mazal | So MC is about 250mb | 12:20 |
mazal | Very rough estimate | 12:20 |
mazal | For about 4 hours | 12:20 |
Kilos | yeah iirc minetest was 100m an hour when i stopped | 12:20 |
Kilos | hi chesedo | 12:21 |
mazal | Mc us roughly 40mb/hour | 12:21 |
Kilos | thats not too bad | 12:21 |
mazal | Yeah is fine. | 12:21 |
Kilos | but no good on a 3g bundle that must make 2 months | 12:21 |
mazal | I should do a proper test one day. Reset router , close all apps , mc for an hour , check usage | 12:21 |
Kilos | yeah do that | 12:22 |
mazal | Maybe tonight. Moeg gebou nou :P | 12:22 |
Kilos | when i get to aus one day ill play minetest again as well for 3 months if i find time | 12:22 |
Kilos | i loved minetest | 12:22 |
Kilos | but becoming an ubuntu member has cut own pc time down lots | 12:26 |
Kilos | well the stuff after membership that is | 12:27 |
Kilos | thats why i can remember things, kop loop oor | 12:27 |
mazal | hehehe | 12:28 |
mazal | This is one thing I like about this B315 router. Keeps usage data for every session. Very handy for me that has consoles as well. | 12:28 |
mazal | Now I can see exactly what I used on a day , consoles included | 12:29 |
Kilos | yeah | 12:29 |
Kilos | i run iftop to watch data use | 12:29 |
mazal | My previous router didn't have it ( or I didn't know that it did ) | 12:29 |
mazal | Software wise I haven't been able to find a good solution | 12:30 |
mazal | For data usage I mean | 12:30 |
Kilos | haha you are learning more all the time | 12:30 |
mazal | Does iftop remember , or does it only capture while open ? | 12:31 |
Kilos | i havent checked in the settings, i use as is, and check every now and again | 12:31 |
mazal | Nah seems it must be open | 12:32 |
Kilos | i think it can log stuff | 12:32 |
mazal | What I like about iftop though it shows what is connecting to where | 12:32 |
Kilos | yes | 12:32 |
Kilos | very lekker | 12:32 |
Kilos | have you tried redswitch | 12:33 |
Kilos | will be good for you | 12:33 |
mazal | hmmm , this interesting , network device names have changed in 16.04 | 12:33 |
mazal | it's eno now , not eth | 12:33 |
Kilos | what a hassle when names change | 12:33 |
Kilos | ai! | 12:33 |
mazal | eno1 here | 12:33 |
Kilos | then gotta start learning all over | 12:34 |
mazal | Wonder why and what eno abriviates | 12:34 |
mazal | eth was ethernet | 12:34 |
Kilos | Maaz define eno | 12:34 |
Maaz | Kilos: I don't know about eno. Maybe you meant NO, Neo-, Eon, Endo-, Ento-, Enow, Keno, Leno, Ano, ZnO, ego, Exo-, End, Ens, Ent-, no, en, neo, eon, enol, keno, reno, zeno, ano, ono, edo, ezo, end, ene, enl, enq, eo, ero, eio, eko, eto, elo, enp, ens, ena or enf? | 12:34 |
mazal | hehehehe Maaz not on 16.04 yet | 12:35 |
Kilos | lol | 12:35 |
Kilos | - maaz is very out of date | 12:35 |
mazal | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-interfaces-name-change-in-ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf.html | 12:37 |
mazal | Since 15.10 it seems | 12:37 |
mazal | So eno1 means my interface is an onboard one | 12:38 |
mazal | If it was a pci card then would be ens1 | 12:38 |
Kilos | oh my | 12:44 |
Kilos | you making me bang to upgrade | 12:44 |
Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 13:46 |
magespawn | good afternoon | 14:32 |
Kilos | hi magespawn | 14:32 |
nlsthzn | hello uncle Kilos ... all :) | 14:36 |
magespawn | how are things that side today Kilos ? | 14:36 |
magespawn | hi nlsthzn | 14:36 |
nlsthzn | o/ | 14:36 |
Kilos | all fine here ty nlsthzn and by you? | 14:36 |
magespawn | warm and sunny, just been out for the afternoon | 14:37 |
nlsthzn | :) | 14:37 |
Kilos | yeah been a nice day here too after a cold morning | 14:37 |
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Kilos | paddatrapper why you been so quiet | 15:41 |
Kilos | paddatrapper nuvolari can we do the project on launchpad because when you work there you get karma which counts when you apply for membership | 15:42 |
Kilos | also im not a github fan, but your choice | 15:44 |
gremble | Why are you not a fan of github? | 15:44 |
Kilos | bushtech why so quiet | 15:44 |
Kilos | its too difficult for me to understand gremble | 15:45 |
gremble | Oh alright | 15:45 |
bushtech | Kilos: busy ripping LP's | 15:45 |
Kilos | how bushtech ? | 15:45 |
Kilos | long playing records? | 15:45 |
bushtech | Yep | 15:46 |
Kilos | wow | 15:46 |
bushtech | Using audacity | 15:46 |
bushtech | ripping them into flac so get better quality than CD's | 15:50 |
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gremble | LP traditionally has a lower quality, so even if you have it uncompressed, its not that good? | 15:52 |
gremble | Well, not uncompressed, lossless | 15:52 |
bushtech | try playing a LP song back to back with same song on CD | 15:53 |
bushtech | even my rock and roll destroyed ears can hear the difference | 15:54 |
Kilos | which one is better bushtech | 15:55 |
bushtech | Lots of audio loss on cd's | 15:55 |
Kilos | wow | 15:55 |
bushtech | and downloaded mp3's are rubbish | 15:55 |
Kilos | i lost a big pile of lps that i left in the caravan fotr some years in the sun | 15:55 |
bushtech | sadness | 15:55 |
bushtech | Got 170 odd here, gonna take me the rest of my life to rip them I think | 15:57 |
gremble | I have two xD | 15:57 |
Kilos | lol | 15:57 |
Kilos | i love old music | 15:57 |
gremble | NIN Pretty hate machine and a rereleased Beatles Let it be | 15:58 |
Kilos | i enjoy instrumentals as well like the shadows and the ventures | 15:59 |
Kilos | i mean that kinda music | 15:59 |
Kilos | love good guitar music | 15:59 |
bushtech | yebo yes | 15:59 |
bushtech | Sonny Landreth plays a mean slide guitar | 16:01 |
Kilos | im sure much of todays music you have to be totally goofed or smashed to be able to enjoy it | 16:03 |
Kilos | lots i dont think anyone can understand | 16:03 |
bushtech | Yep, not much modern stuff I like | 16:04 |
paddatrapper | Kilos: been busy studying and fixing my borked OS install... Accidentally started to run sudo rm - rf /usr... Removed a couple of key files before I realised | 16:32 |
Kilos | ouch | 16:32 |
Kilos | im not rushing, just querying | 16:32 |
Kilos | guys that would like membership in the future must look at all the + ways to make it easier when they apply | 16:33 |
gremble | paddatrapper, I promise that I didn't exhale sharply to indicate laughter when I read that you did sudo rm -rf /usr. I am curious as to why you would do that though | 16:47 |
paddatrapper | gremble: I was testing creating a python tar install package which extracted to ./usr which was all set with root ownership, etc. Muscle memory made me type /usr instead of just usr | 16:54 |
gremble | Ah ha. | 16:55 |
gremble | We've all shot our leg off with rm. I still have a HDD here where I overwrote the first 200MB of the plate with an ISO using dd | 16:56 |
paddatrapper | Realised after I started wondering why it was taking so long | 16:56 |
gremble | I am still holding out for some miracle to let me recover the content | 16:56 |
paddatrapper | Ouch | 16:56 |
superfly | gremble: you can try photorec, but if that can't do it, I'm doubtful anything else will | 17:25 |
gremble | A friend suggested that I pipe the data to look for file headers. I have tried photorec and it returned nothing, so I doubt any manual headhunting that I will do will fare any better | 17:27 |
gremble | Right now the drive is standing on my desk as a monument to unattentive stupidity. Every time I see it I remember that I have to think about what I am doing and why I am doing it :P | 17:28 |
Kilos | scalpel works with headers i think | 17:28 |
Kilos | run all the recovery tools | 17:29 |
Kilos | testdisk foremost and scalpel | 17:29 |
Kilos | photorec is in there somewhere i think | 17:29 |
Kilos | gremble https://bin.snyman.info/mmm9gwfg | 17:33 |
Kilos | in that order | 17:34 |
gremble | Thanks Kilos | 17:34 |
gremble | I will keep that | 17:34 |
Kilos | if you go through that sequence and get nill out nothing will recover that data | 17:35 |
Kilos | i used to enjoy recovering data on crashed drives | 17:36 |
Kilos | you just need lots of space if the drive is large | 17:36 |
gremble | it is a 2tb drive. It is my largest drive | 17:37 |
Kilos | oh my | 17:37 |
Kilos | testdisk you can untick recording | 17:38 |
Kilos | but it can write back missing partitions | 17:39 |
Kilos | not recording logging | 17:39 |
Kilos | good luck | 17:39 |
gremble | Thanks Kilos. I am definitely going to be coming back to you when I do it ;) | 17:40 |
Kilos | hopefully to thank me not shoot me | 17:41 |
Kilos | hehe | 17:41 |
* Kilos wonders where inetpro is lurking | 17:41 | |
gremble | I will not point the ire of all these people at my by doing something like that :P | 17:41 |
Kilos | hahaha | 17:42 |
Kilos | hi magespaw1 | 17:46 |
Kilos | you pawing the mobile | 17:47 |
magespaw1 | no just got disconnected | 17:56 |
paddatrapper | Ubuntu is so much easier to install than Arch! I haven't had to open a wiki page once | 18:04 |
Kilos | lol | 18:04 |
Kilos | try kubuntu man | 18:05 |
Kilos | everything works | 18:05 |
Kilos | hi Langjan | 18:05 |
Kilos | whats broken | 18:05 |
Langjan | hi Kilos hoe gaan dit? | 18:05 |
Kilos | goed dankie en self | 18:05 |
Langjan | ook goed dankie, niks gebreek nie - kan jy glo? | 18:05 |
Kilos | sjoe | 18:06 |
Kilos | mooi oom | 18:06 |
Kilos | winter is hier | 18:06 |
Langjan | Het jy lekker naweek gehad? Behalwe vir die rugby... | 18:06 |
Langjan | ja hier ook kouerig | 18:06 |
Langjan | en baie drrog | 18:07 |
Langjan | droog | 18:07 |
Kilos | nogal rustig dankie behalwe vir dom skape wat dink als is groener op n ander kant | 18:07 |
Kilos | kwaai droog ja | 18:07 |
Langjan | dit is! kyk maar self... | 18:07 |
Langjan | die gras | 18:07 |
Kilos | hahaha | 18:08 |
Langjan | lmgga | 18:08 |
Kilos | haha' | 18:08 |
Kilos | sjoe | 18:08 |
Kilos | my maag is te vol om te lag man | 18:08 |
Langjan | ok bly jy het lekker ge-eet, wies die kok? | 18:08 |
Kilos | do you actually mean unity hasnt given any probs? | 18:09 |
Kilos | sussie | 18:09 |
Langjan | ok, bly sy daar by jou? | 18:09 |
Kilos | ek bly by haar en haar man | 18:09 |
Langjan | o, ok - wat doen hulle vir 'n lewe? | 18:10 |
paddatrapper | Haven't gotten to Unity yet, waiting for the install to finish. I plan on using i3 instead of Unity though | 18:10 |
Kilos | hy werk op trokke en graders en al daai groot masjiene | 18:10 |
Langjan | hi paddatrapper what's i3? | 18:10 |
Kilos | en sy maak trou rokke ens | 18:10 |
Langjan | werk sy van die huis af? | 18:11 |
Kilos | serious gui thing | 18:11 |
Kilos | dont even try it | 18:11 |
paddatrapper | Langjan: Tiling window manager | 18:11 |
paddatrapper | http://i3wm.org/ | 18:11 |
Kilos | you know Langjan you should actually stay online here everytime your pc is on | 18:12 |
Langjan | ok, bokant my vuurmaakplek... | 18:12 |
Kilos | ja dis n kwaai ding daai vir slim jong mense | 18:13 |
Langjan | then you will ask me what's broke a 1 000 times a day | 18:13 |
Kilos | if you stay online you can read what we discuss all day | 18:13 |
Kilos | no man ill see its working | 18:14 |
Kilos | ai! ek sukkel met my volk | 18:14 |
Langjan | eish ek het baie werk om te doen Kilos | 18:14 |
Kilos | ya ek ook maar pc bly aan | 18:14 |
Langjan | myne ook, werk baie op hom | 18:14 |
Kilos | het jy net een workspace | 18:15 |
Langjan | een desktop met 4 w/spaces | 18:15 |
Kilos | one day you must teamviewer me and see how easy it is with 9 | 18:16 |
Kilos | irc has one workspace on its own | 18:16 |
Langjan | well its just a single click away anyway... | 18:16 |
Kilos | mail has one and pidgin has one | 18:16 |
Langjan | do | 18:16 |
Kilos | others are for browsers and playing games | 18:17 |
Langjan | so why different workspaces if you can click from one to the other? | 18:17 |
Kilos | yes man but then you cant use the excuse you cant be on irc because you work on your pc | 18:17 |
Kilos | i wish you would give kubuntu a try for one month | 18:18 |
Kilos | then you wont be unifying all your contacts | 18:19 |
Langjan | well sometimes, often I need to focus on what I'm doing, so mails and messages coming thro are distractions | 18:19 |
Kilos | hahaha | 18:19 |
paddatrapper | Workspaces are the best thing after the terminal to happen to Linux | 18:19 |
Kilos | excuses excuses | 18:19 |
Langjan | why would I need excuses? | 18:19 |
Langjan | I've been on kubuntu | 18:20 |
paddatrapper | Or you could host an IRC connection on a server and ssh in when you want to interact, but still be connected 24/7 | 18:20 |
Kilos | i think maybe you think because im brain dead you can lead me around the bush | 18:20 |
mazal_ | I like workspaces , at work one can hide the games in workspace 2 :) | 18:20 |
Kilos | lol | 18:20 |
Kilos | mazal_ you are naughty | 18:20 |
mazal_ | No , resourceful | 18:21 |
Kilos | you cant play games all day then complain about your employer | 18:21 |
paddatrapper | I see a simple solution to that - don't complain! | 18:21 |
mazal_ | This reminds me of many years ago , one of the first tetris game that released , when you pressed esc key a dummy Lotus 123 screen came up | 18:22 |
Kilos | hhaha | 18:22 |
Kilos | Langjan to what do we owe the honour of this visit | 18:22 |
mazal_ | Wat het jy gebreek ? | 18:23 |
Kilos | hahahaha | 18:23 |
Kilos | oh my he hit silent mode | 18:24 |
Langjan | julle spot met siekte seuns | 18:24 |
Kilos | phone call or visitors | 18:24 |
Symmetria | sup | 18:24 |
Kilos | hi Symmetria | 18:24 |
Symmetria | man, kids are hilarious | 18:24 |
Symmetria | our friend was around with their 4 year old daughter, and their daughter sees this: | 18:24 |
Symmetria | kid screamed and burst into tears and hid behind her mom, her mom goes over to pat it to show her its just wood | 18:25 |
Symmetria | kid went absolutely nuts | 18:25 |
Symmetria | hahahah | 18:25 |
Kilos | sees this what? | 18:25 |
gremble | What did the kid see | 18:25 |
gremble | I am anxious now | 18:25 |
Symmetria | http://server.alstonnetworks.net/hippo.png | 18:25 |
Symmetria | http://server.alstonnetworks.net/hippo.png <=== THAT | 18:25 |
Symmetria | :) | 18:25 |
Symmetria | lol, some stupid carving my wife has had for years | 18:26 |
Symmetria | kid thought it was real | 18:26 |
Symmetria | must admit, it does look kinda grumpy ;p | 18:26 |
Kilos | haha | 18:26 |
gremble | That is the world's most unimpressed wooden hippo | 18:26 |
Langjan | pinochippo | 18:27 |
gremble | Excellent oppurtunity to tell the story about the nutcracker and the toys that come alive to fight the ratking xD | 18:27 |
Langjan | Julle manne moet lekker kuier en speletjies speel, ons gesels weer later | 18:28 |
Kilos | hey Symmetria what happened to those guys that bought all you extra pc stuff before you left | 18:28 |
Kilos | they dont come here anymore | 18:29 |
Kilos | dankie Langjan lekker slaap julle en bly warm | 18:29 |
Kilos | en veilig | 18:29 |
Langjan | julle ook dankie Kilos | 18:30 |
Langjan | Hier op Warmbad moet jy versigtig wees waar jy vir water boor om nie warm water te kry nie.. | 18:31 |
Kilos | lol | 18:31 |
Langjan | serious, and if you do you have to seal it off | 18:31 |
Kilos | wow | 18:31 |
Langjan | Forever Resorts has sole rights to the hot water | 18:32 |
Kilos | ai! | 18:32 |
Langjan | 22 000 litres per hour at 54 degrees | 18:32 |
Kilos | wow | 18:32 |
Langjan | and they have legal rights to hog it all | 18:33 |
Kilos | 54°c or f | 18:33 |
Langjan | centigrade | 18:33 |
Kilos | wow | 18:33 |
Kilos | learn to make the ° sign | 18:33 |
Langjan | I can find it - eventually but only in libre, how? | 18:34 |
Kilos | thats actuall evil having control over water you drill away from their preperty | 18:34 |
Kilos | make a compose key | 18:35 |
Langjan | yea agreed | 18:35 |
Langjan | done | 18:35 |
Kilos | then hold compose key down and ht o twice | 18:35 |
Langjan | letter or figure? | 18:35 |
Langjan | ° | 18:35 |
Kilos | oh for oh my | 18:36 |
Langjan | 54° | 18:36 |
Kilos | die engelse slim ne | 18:36 |
Kilos | 54°c | 18:36 |
Langjan | 54°C | 18:36 |
Kilos | ja that'nuvolari taught me | 18:36 |
Langjan | what others? | 18:37 |
Kilos | other what | 18:37 |
Langjan | like ° | 18:37 |
Kilos | ne | 18:37 |
Kilos | all those kappie things | 18:37 |
Langjan | thats easy, hit n and then e | 18:37 |
Kilos | nee man moet n ^ op he | 18:38 |
Langjan | yes but things that are not on the keypad lime ° | 18:38 |
Kilos | i only use the degrees sign | 18:38 |
Langjan | jy sê my nou sleg | 18:38 |
Kilos | sien jy | 18:39 |
Langjan | ek seën jou | 18:39 |
Kilos | dankie | 18:39 |
Langjan | ja ek ken die goeters maar nie die oo vir ° nie | 18:39 |
Langjan | my plesier | 18:39 |
Langjan | lekker slaap | 18:40 |
Langjan | en mooi loop | 18:40 |
Kilos | jy ook dankie | 18:40 |
Langjan | dankie vir die leersame sessie | 18:40 |
Langjan | dankie | 18:40 |
Kilos | enige tyd | 18:40 |
Kilos | gonna rain, he broke nothing | 18:41 |
paddatrapper | I have another chance to decide on the ubuntu distro I'm running - installer crashed... Suggestions? | 18:54 |
Kilos | kubuntu 14.04 | 18:55 |
Kilos | everything works | 18:56 |
paddatrapper | Never really tried KDE. Suppose I have a good chance for distro hopping, so I'll give it a try | 18:56 |
Kilos | did you use the whole drive | 18:56 |
Kilos | and format it first | 18:57 |
Kilos | ill try 16.04 when i get to aus and dont need mobile data | 18:57 |
Kilos | then see if its as good | 18:58 |
paddatrapper | Whole drive. It failed because my internet was too slow - package downloads timed out and crashed the installer | 18:58 |
Kilos | install without updating same time | 18:58 |
Kilos | and without those other things | 18:58 |
Kilos | clean install with internat disconnected | 18:59 |
Kilos | should take 10 mins | 18:59 |
paddatrapper | Good idea, thanks | 18:59 |
Kilos | should come with quassel installed so you can get here before even upgrading | 19:00 |
pavlushka | night all, :) | 19:00 |
paddatrapper | I use weechat on a VPS which I then SSH into. Find it quite useful | 19:01 |
Kilos | ok | 19:01 |
paddatrapper | Wow, no internet makes this install so quick, almost done already | 19:03 |
Kilos | yeah | 19:03 |
Kilos | my best was 7 mins till reboot | 19:04 |
Kilos | on a dual core machine | 19:04 |
paddatrapper | Nice. This is the first install I've done manually that has taken under a day | 19:04 |
Kilos | lol | 19:05 |
Kilos | if you save all your archives you cant then install and in 30 mins rsync them and update upgrade | 19:05 |
paddatrapper | What do you mean? | 19:06 |
Kilos | complete up to date frsh install in under 1 hour | 19:06 |
paddatrapper | Ah I see | 19:07 |
Kilos | you tell update manager to leave downloaded packages in cache | 19:07 |
paddatrapper | Though, I assume, remove outdated ones | 19:07 |
paddatrapper | ? | 19:07 |
Kilos | then rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /path to storage/ | 19:08 |
Kilos | you leave them all for fresh install as some are needed | 19:08 |
Kilos | lemme find you a link to make kde lekker | 19:08 |
Kilos | Maaz google 20 cool things to do on kubuntu 14.04 | 19:09 |
Maaz | Kilos: "20 cool things to do after installing Kubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr" http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/ :: "20 cool things to do after installing Kubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr - Disqus" https://disqus.com/home/discussion/binarytides/19_cool_things_to_do_after_installing_kubuntu_1404_trusty_tahr/ :: "Things to do after installing Kubuntu [Click Next] | | 19:09 |
Maaz | Linux Veda" http://www.linuxveda.com/2014/12/06/things-installing-kubuntu-click-next/ ::… | 19:09 |
Kilos | top link | 19:09 |
Kilos | i use synaptic to save the downloaded packages because its faster and easier to use than update manager | 19:11 |
Kilos | you sposed to be teaching me | 19:11 |
paddatrapper | Thanks. Looks cool! I'll have to play around with it tomorrow after Kubuntu ISO has finished downloading and I can install it. Going to have to use straight Ubuntu for Varsity tomorrow | 19:12 |
paddatrapper | When it comes to apt and Ubuntu package management I don't know much outside of apt(-get) install package | 19:12 |
Kilos | im here | 19:16 |
Kilos | where i cant help ill find someone that can | 19:16 |
Kilos | quite a few kde users here now | 19:16 |
Kilos | pro and fly are kde masters | 19:18 |
gremble | The few times I've had kde I switched over to quickly :P | 19:19 |
gremble | I am a boring i3 kind of guy | 19:19 |
Kilos | takes getting used to | 19:19 |
Kilos | i said ill try it for one month and then stayed on it | 19:20 |
Kilos | 14.04 is so stable why change | 19:20 |
gremble | So far I am liking mate. | 19:21 |
Kilos | that i3 thing is for clever peeps | 19:21 |
gremble | But the gui isn't all that important to do. As long as I can do my work, and it is linux, I am happy | 19:21 |
Kilos | i used mate before they put it in thew repos | 19:21 |
Kilos | was better than unity | 19:21 |
Kilos | gnome2 was lekker | 19:22 |
Kilos | but kse has so much more i wont change back again | 19:22 |
Kilos | kde | 19:23 |
gremble | Haha spacemacs is all I need <3 | 19:23 |
gremble | :P | 19:23 |
paddatrapper | gremble: I also like i3. The space utilization is fantastic | 19:24 |
gremble | paddatrapper, on small screens it is fantastic. | 19:24 |
paddatrapper | Yeah. I ran it on my lapop for about the last 2 years. But I think I'm going to try KDE for a bit and see what it feels like | 19:25 |
gremble | This is some of the sentences that I have to deal with for wednesday evening, "The variance is the sum of the expected value of the conditional variance and the variance of the conditional expected value." | 19:26 |
gremble | -_- | 19:26 |
paddatrapper | How do I change workspaces in stock Ubuntu? | 19:26 |
gremble | ctrl arrow iirc | 19:26 |
gremble | ctrl+alt+ arrow | 19:27 |
Kilos | ctrl alt tab | 19:27 |
Kilos | or alt tab | 19:28 |
Kilos | i forget | 19:28 |
paddatrapper | Those sentances make almost no sense | 19:28 |
Kilos | ctrl+alt+tab | 19:28 |
Kilos | or alt+tab | 19:28 |
Kilos | sorry , falling asleep here | 19:28 |
gremble | doesn't alt+tab just switch between programs on your screen? | 19:28 |
Kilos | im not sure | 19:29 |
paddatrapper | Yup it does... No worries, I'll google | 19:29 |
gremble | ctrl+alt+arrow not working? | 19:29 |
Kilos | Maaz google how to change workspaces on 14.04 | 19:29 |
Maaz | Kilos: "How to use different workspaces on Ubuntu 14.04? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/459284/how-to-use-different-workspaces-on-ubuntu-14-04 :: "keyboard - Ubuntu 14.04 workspace switch hotkeys - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/524339/ubuntu-14-04-workspace-switch-hotkeys :: "Switch between the workspaces (Ubuntu 14.04) - Ask Ubuntu" | 19:29 |
Maaz | http://askubuntu.com/questions/571271/switch-between-the-workspaces-ubuntu-14-04 :: "add work… | 19:29 |
magespaw1 | that is what i do to switch, but i am on peppermint and debian | 19:30 |
Kilos | last link | 19:30 |
Kilos | i gotta sleep | 19:30 |
Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:31 |
mazal_ | Night all , sleep well | 19:31 |
Kilos | see you morrow time | 19:31 |
gremble | Cheers you two | 19:31 |
mazal_ | wow , snap | 19:31 |
paddatrapper | It does nothinng, but that could be because I don't have any others open | 19:31 |
Kilos | lol | 19:31 |
paddatrapper | night | 19:31 |
gremble | I think in unity you might have to activate multiple workspaces first | 19:31 |
paddatrapper | You are right - needed to enable then | 19:32 |
paddatrapper | Thanks. Now it's working | 19:32 |
gremble | Unity hates people. | 19:32 |
paddatrapper | I'm starting to understand that sentiment | 19:33 |
paddatrapper | Though I'm loving the Ubuntu thing of things just working - wifi, contrast, volume,, alles | 19:37 |
gremble | That is pretty nice | 19:37 |
gremble | This statistics lecturer thinks he is a comedian. "Just for giggles, we are going to make this thing a little bit more complicated and imposing." | 19:38 |
paddatrapper | Hte lecturers like that... | 19:39 |
gremble | Although, reading through my notes and comments on the work, past me is sometimes an impatient asshole | 19:53 |
paddatrapper | Haha. I always get the feeling that past me knew more than me and so left huge gaps in his notes... | 19:54 |
paddatrapper | Which I now need | 19:54 |
gremble | "This is a trivial result" now I am sitting here wondering how the .. past me knew that it was trivial. | 19:56 |
gremble | Or something like "??BOUNDS??!!" and I have no idea what that is supposed to signify. | 19:56 |
paddatrapper | Lol. Yup!! | 19:58 |
paddatrapper | Alright night everyone | 20:18 |
gremble | Cheers | 20:19 |
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