[00:08] <Trixar_za> Done that before - and recursive setting of permissions to /etc instead of just one file once :(
[05:28] <Kilos> morning everyone
[07:10] <mazal> Mornings
[07:28] <gremble> Good morning
[08:04] <Kilos> hi mazal gremble 
[08:05] <gremble> Good morning Kilos 
[08:05] <gremble> How are you today?
[08:05] <Kilos> im good ty and you
[08:05] <Kilos> was kinda cold this morning early
[08:07] <gremble> It is still kind of brisk
[08:07] <gremble> It is nice. It is that cold like your mouth is after you've brushed your teeth
[08:08] <Kilos> lol
[08:58] <Kilos> hi inetpro superfly maia is ordering 16.04 stuff for us
[08:59] <Kilos> glad she is ok
[09:28] <gremble_> My internet has gone to shit :/
[09:34] <Kilos> ai!
[09:56] <mazal> Wat de !!! Something is laughing at me in MC ?
[09:59] <inetpro> Kilos: see, you just need a bit of patience at times
[09:59] <inetpro> oh and good mornings btw as well
[09:59] <Kilos> yes inetpro but now we cant find the link where to order
[10:00] <Kilos> sigh
[10:00] <mazal> I would like to buy one of those stick. Does one do it on website ?
[10:00] <Kilos> yes mazal you can
[10:00] <inetpro> Kilos: didn't I just say you need patience?
[10:01] <Kilos> Maaz google where to buy 16.04 flash drives
[10:01] <Maaz> Kilos: "Canonical Store Adds Bootable Ubuntu 16.04 USB Stick - OMG ..." http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/buy-ubuntu-16-04-usb-official :: "OSDisc.com - Buy Linux CDs, DVDs, USB Flash Drives, Books ..." https://www.osdisc.com/ :: "OSDisc.com - Linux, Ubuntu" https://www.osdisc.com/products/linux/ubuntu :: "How to Install The Real Ubuntu System on USB Flash Drive
[10:01] <Maaz> ..." http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/11/install-real-ubuntu-os-usb-drive/ :: "Ubu…
[10:01] <mazal> Problem would be to get it here
[10:01] <mazal> SA don't have post office
[10:01] <Kilos> i hear the pretty cover wears off, so dont use too often if you want it for looks
[10:02] <Kilos> we are trying to order as well mazal 
[10:02] <mazal> Ag no , I want one for the looks
[10:02] <Kilos> then the first link i think
[10:03] <Kilos> inetpro orders should have been in before end of april
[10:03] <Kilos> i should have started looking for maia earlier
[10:37] <inetpro_> nee man, wat maak jy?
[10:40] <Kilos> nie ek nie man
[10:52] <Kilos> inetpro wat het ek nou verkeerd gedoen
[10:52] <Kilos> ai!
[11:21] <mazal> Oom Kilos , my laaste 5 dae se werk: https://bin.snyman.info/mmm5h6hs
[11:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:41] <Kilos> als links na prentjies?
[11:57] <mazal> Yep , my subway is klaar
[11:57] <Kilos> prentjies eet data seun
[11:57] <Kilos> is dit minecraft mazal 
[11:58] <mazal> Yep
[11:58] <Kilos> is dit ook voltyds online data vreter
[11:58] <mazal> Hy gebruik omtrent 4 keer minder data
[11:59] <Kilos> en kos wat om te begin
[11:59] <mazal> Toe ek gekoop het was $27
[11:59] <mazal> Weet nie wat is hy nou nie
[11:59] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:00] <Kilos> julle ryk mense
[12:04] <mazal> Nie rêrig nie, mens eet meer in 'n paar dae as dit
[12:05] <Kilos> hahahaha
[12:06] <Kilos> i would rather feed my fat tummy
[12:06] <mazal> Dis so , daai is maar twee dae se eet
[12:06] <Kilos> as jy takeaways koop ja
[12:07] <Kilos> ek kan heelwat kos maak met daai geld
[12:07] <mazal> Kook kos is maar net so duur. Mens kry nie meer goedkoop kos nie. Net 'n brood is al R12
[12:08] <Kilos> R8.99 at checkers
[12:10] <Kilos> R383
[12:10] <Kilos> sak meel en klomp maalvleis en groente
[12:11] <mazal> Dankie ANC. Toe ek gekoop het was dit so R250
[12:11] <Kilos> lol
[12:11] <mazal> Waarheid. Hulle trek die land deur hulle gatte en die rand waarde en ons lei daaronder
[12:12] <Kilos> ssshhhhhhh
[12:12] <Kilos> no politics
[12:12] <mazal> Is feite
[12:13] <Kilos> we know but there is no such thing as freedom of speach
[12:13] <Kilos> speech
[12:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:13] <Kilos> Maaz spell speech
[12:13] <Maaz> Kilos: Looks good to me
[12:13] <Kilos> ai!
[12:13] <mazal> Not in SA anyway
[12:13] <mazal> No freedom at all
[12:13] <Kilos> must be my eyes
[12:18] <mazal> Pitty I did those pic uploads , otherwise I could have checked the data use
[12:18] <mazal> Know how long I played today , but those pic uploads will mess the total up a bit
[12:19] <Kilos> i dont think odd pics is much
[12:19] <Kilos> but more than text anyway
[12:20] <mazal> I used 300mb today. That's for mail , browsing , pic uploads , irc , and about 4 hours of mc
[12:20] <mazal> So MC is about 250mb
[12:20] <mazal> Very rough estimate
[12:20] <mazal> For about 4 hours
[12:20] <Kilos> yeah iirc minetest was 100m an hour when i stopped
[12:21] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[12:21] <mazal> Mc us roughly 40mb/hour
[12:21] <Kilos> thats not too bad
[12:21] <mazal> Yeah is fine.
[12:21] <Kilos> but no good on a 3g bundle that must make 2 months
[12:21] <mazal> I should do a proper test one day. Reset router , close all apps , mc for an hour , check usage
[12:22] <Kilos> yeah do that
[12:22] <mazal> Maybe tonight. Moeg gebou nou :P
[12:22] <Kilos> when i get to aus one day ill play minetest again as well for 3 months if i find time
[12:22] <Kilos> i loved minetest
[12:26] <Kilos> but becoming an ubuntu member has cut own pc time down lots
[12:27] <Kilos> well the stuff after membership that is
[12:27] <Kilos> thats why i can remember things, kop loop oor
[12:28] <mazal> hehehe
[12:28] <mazal> This is one thing I like about this B315 router. Keeps usage data for every session. Very handy for me that has consoles as well.
[12:29] <mazal> Now I can see exactly what I used on a day , consoles included
[12:29] <Kilos> yeah
[12:29] <Kilos> i run iftop to watch data use
[12:29] <mazal> My previous router didn't have it ( or I didn't know that it did )
[12:30] <mazal> Software wise I haven't been able to find a good solution
[12:30] <mazal> For data usage I mean
[12:30] <Kilos> haha you are learning more all the time
[12:31] <mazal> Does iftop remember , or does it only capture while open ?
[12:31] <Kilos> i havent checked in the settings, i use as is, and check every now and again
[12:32] <mazal> Nah seems it must be open
[12:32] <Kilos> i think it can log stuff
[12:32] <mazal> What I like about iftop though it shows what is connecting to where
[12:32] <Kilos> yes
[12:32] <Kilos> very lekker
[12:33] <Kilos> have you tried redswitch
[12:33] <Kilos> will be good for you
[12:33] <mazal> hmmm , this interesting , network device names have changed in 16.04
[12:33] <mazal> it's eno now , not eth
[12:33] <Kilos> what a hassle when names change
[12:33] <Kilos> ai!
[12:33] <mazal> eno1 here
[12:34] <Kilos> then gotta start learning all over
[12:34] <mazal> Wonder why and what eno abriviates
[12:34] <mazal> eth was ethernet
[12:34] <Kilos> Maaz define eno
[12:34] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about eno. Maybe you meant NO, Neo-, Eon, Endo-, Ento-, Enow, Keno, Leno, Ano, ZnO, ego, Exo-, End, Ens, Ent-, no, en, neo, eon, enol, keno, reno, zeno, ano, ono, edo, ezo, end, ene, enl, enq, eo, ero, eio, eko, eto, elo, enp, ens, ena or enf?
[12:35] <mazal> hehehehe Maaz not on 16.04 yet
[12:35] <Kilos> lol
[12:35] <Kilos>  - maaz is very out of date
[12:37] <mazal> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-interfaces-name-change-in-ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf.html
[12:37] <mazal> Since 15.10 it seems
[12:38] <mazal> So eno1 means my interface is an onboard one
[12:38] <mazal> If it was a pci card then would be ens1
[12:44] <Kilos> oh my
[12:44] <Kilos> you making me bang to upgrade
[13:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[14:32] <magespawn> good afternoon
[14:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[14:36] <nlsthzn> hello uncle Kilos ... all :)
[14:36] <magespawn> how are things that side today Kilos ?
[14:36] <magespawn> hi nlsthzn 
[14:36] <nlsthzn> o/
[14:36] <Kilos> all fine here ty nlsthzn  and by you?
[14:37] <magespawn> warm and sunny, just been out for the afternoon
[14:37] <nlsthzn> :)
[14:37] <Kilos> yeah been a nice day here too after a cold morning
[15:41] <Kilos> paddatrapper why you been so quiet
[15:42] <Kilos> paddatrapper nuvolari can we do the project on launchpad because when you work there you get karma which counts when you apply for membership
[15:44] <Kilos> also im not a github fan, but your choice
[15:44] <gremble> Why are you not a fan of github?
[15:44] <Kilos> bushtech why so quiet
[15:45] <Kilos> its too difficult for me to understand gremble 
[15:45] <gremble> Oh alright
[15:45] <bushtech> Kilos: busy ripping LP's
[15:45] <Kilos> how bushtech ?
[15:45] <Kilos> long playing records?
[15:46] <bushtech> Yep
[15:46] <Kilos> wow
[15:46] <bushtech> Using audacity
[15:50] <bushtech> ripping them into flac so get better quality than CD's
[15:52] <gremble> LP traditionally has a lower quality, so even if you have it uncompressed, its not that good?
[15:52] <gremble> Well, not uncompressed, lossless
[15:53] <bushtech> try playing a LP song back to back with same song on CD
[15:54] <bushtech> even my rock and roll destroyed ears can hear the difference
[15:55] <Kilos> which one is better bushtech 
[15:55] <bushtech> Lots of audio loss on cd's
[15:55] <Kilos> wow
[15:55] <bushtech> and downloaded mp3's are rubbish
[15:55] <Kilos> i lost a big pile of lps that i left in the caravan fotr some years in the sun
[15:55] <bushtech> sadness
[15:57] <bushtech> Got 170 odd here, gonna take me the rest of my life to rip them I think
[15:57] <gremble> I have two xD
[15:57] <Kilos> lol
[15:57] <Kilos> i love old music
[15:58] <gremble> NIN Pretty hate machine and a rereleased Beatles Let it be
[15:59] <Kilos> i enjoy instrumentals as well like the shadows and the ventures
[15:59] <Kilos> i mean that kinda music
[15:59] <Kilos> love good guitar music
[15:59] <bushtech> yebo yes
[16:01] <bushtech> Sonny Landreth plays a mean slide guitar
[16:03] <Kilos> im sure much of todays music you have to be totally goofed or smashed to be able to enjoy it
[16:03] <Kilos> lots i dont think anyone can understand
[16:04] <bushtech> Yep, not much modern stuff I like
[16:32] <paddatrapper> Kilos: been busy studying and fixing my borked OS install... Accidentally started to run sudo rm - rf /usr... Removed a couple of key files before I realised
[16:32] <Kilos> ouch
[16:32] <Kilos> im not rushing, just querying
[16:33] <Kilos> guys that would like membership in the future must look at all the + ways to make it easier when they apply
[16:47] <gremble> paddatrapper, I promise that I didn't exhale sharply to indicate laughter when I read that you did sudo rm -rf /usr. I am curious as to why you would do that though 
[16:54] <paddatrapper> gremble: I was testing creating a python tar install package which extracted to ./usr which was all set with root ownership, etc. Muscle memory made me type /usr instead of just usr
[16:55] <gremble> Ah ha. 
[16:56] <gremble> We've all shot our leg off with rm. I still have a HDD here where I overwrote the first 200MB of the plate with an ISO using dd
[16:56] <paddatrapper> Realised after I started wondering why it was taking so long
[16:56] <gremble> I am still holding out for some miracle to let me recover the content
[16:56] <paddatrapper> Ouch
[17:25] <superfly> gremble: you can try photorec, but if that can't do it, I'm doubtful anything else will
[17:27] <gremble> A friend suggested that I pipe the data to look for file headers. I have tried photorec and it returned nothing, so I doubt any manual headhunting that I will do will fare any better
[17:28] <gremble> Right now the drive is standing on my desk as a monument to unattentive stupidity. Every time I see it I remember that I have to think about what I am doing and why I am doing it :P
[17:28] <Kilos> scalpel works with headers i think
[17:29] <Kilos> run all the recovery tools
[17:29] <Kilos> testdisk foremost and scalpel
[17:29] <Kilos> photorec is in there somewhere i think
[17:33] <Kilos> gremble https://bin.snyman.info/mmm9gwfg
[17:34] <Kilos> in that order
[17:34] <gremble> Thanks Kilos 
[17:34] <gremble> I will keep that
[17:35] <Kilos> if you go through that sequence and get nill out nothing will recover that data
[17:36] <Kilos> i used to  enjoy recovering data on crashed drives
[17:36] <Kilos> you just need lots of space if the drive is large
[17:37] <gremble> it is a 2tb drive. It is my largest drive
[17:37] <Kilos> oh my
[17:38] <Kilos> testdisk you can untick recording
[17:39] <Kilos> but it can write back missing partitions 
[17:39] <Kilos> not recording logging
[17:39] <Kilos> good luck
[17:40] <gremble> Thanks Kilos. I am definitely going to be coming back to you when I do it ;)
[17:41] <Kilos> hopefully to thank me not shoot me
[17:41] <Kilos> hehe
[17:41]  * Kilos wonders where inetpro is lurking
[17:41] <gremble> I will not point the ire of all these people at my by doing something like that :P
[17:42] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:46] <Kilos> hi magespaw1 
[17:47] <Kilos> you pawing the mobile
[17:56] <magespaw1> no just got disconnected
[18:04] <paddatrapper> Ubuntu is so much easier to install than Arch! I haven't had to open a wiki page once
[18:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:05] <Kilos> try kubuntu man
[18:05] <Kilos> everything works
[18:05] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[18:05] <Kilos> whats broken
[18:05] <Langjan> hi Kilos hoe gaan dit?
[18:05] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[18:05] <Langjan> ook goed dankie, niks gebreek nie - kan jy glo?
[18:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:06] <Kilos> mooi oom
[18:06] <Kilos> winter is hier
[18:06] <Langjan> Het jy lekker naweek gehad? Behalwe vir die rugby...
[18:06] <Langjan> ja hier ook kouerig
[18:07] <Langjan> en baie drrog
[18:07] <Langjan> droog
[18:07] <Kilos> nogal rustig dankie behalwe vir dom skape wat dink als is groener op n ander kant
[18:07] <Kilos> kwaai droog ja
[18:07] <Langjan> dit is! kyk maar self...
[18:07] <Langjan> die gras
[18:08] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:08] <Langjan> lmgga
[18:08] <Kilos> haha'
[18:08] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:08] <Kilos> my maag is te vol om te lag man
[18:08] <Langjan> ok bly jy het lekker ge-eet, wies die kok?
[18:09] <Kilos> do you actually mean unity hasnt given any probs?
[18:09] <Kilos> sussie
[18:09] <Langjan> ok, bly sy daar by jou?
[18:09] <Kilos> ek bly by haar en haar man
[18:10] <Langjan> o, ok - wat doen hulle vir 'n lewe?
[18:10] <paddatrapper> Haven't gotten to Unity yet, waiting for the install to finish. I plan on using i3 instead of Unity though
[18:10] <Kilos> hy werk op trokke en graders en al daai groot masjiene
[18:10] <Langjan> hi paddatrapper what's i3?
[18:10] <Kilos> en sy maak trou rokke ens
[18:11] <Langjan> werk sy van die huis af?
[18:11] <Kilos> serious gui thing
[18:11] <Kilos> dont even try it
[18:11] <paddatrapper> Langjan: Tiling window manager
[18:11] <paddatrapper> http://i3wm.org/
[18:12] <Kilos> you know Langjan you should actually stay online here everytime your pc is on
[18:12] <Langjan> ok, bokant my vuurmaakplek...
[18:13] <Kilos> ja dis n kwaai ding daai vir slim jong mense
[18:13] <Langjan> then you will ask me what's broke a 1 000 times a day
[18:13] <Kilos> if you stay online you can read what we discuss all day
[18:14] <Kilos> no man ill see its working
[18:14] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel met my volk
[18:14] <Langjan> eish ek het baie werk om te doen Kilos 
[18:14] <Kilos> ya ek ook maar pc bly aan
[18:14] <Langjan> myne ook, werk baie op hom
[18:15] <Kilos> het jy net een workspace
[18:15] <Langjan> een desktop met 4 w/spaces
[18:16] <Kilos> one day you must teamviewer me and see how easy it is with 9
[18:16] <Kilos> irc has one workspace on its own
[18:16] <Langjan> well its just a single click away anyway...
[18:16] <Kilos> mail has one and pidgin has one
[18:16] <Langjan> do
[18:17] <Kilos> others are for browsers and playing games
[18:17] <Langjan> so why different workspaces if you can click from one to the other? 
[18:17] <Kilos> yes man but then you cant use the excuse you cant be on irc because you work on your pc
[18:18] <Kilos> i wish you would give kubuntu a try for one month
[18:19] <Kilos> then you wont be unifying all your contacts
[18:19] <Langjan> well sometimes, often I need to focus on what I'm doing, so mails and messages coming thro are distractions 
[18:19] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:19] <paddatrapper> Workspaces are the best thing after the terminal to happen to Linux
[18:19] <Kilos> excuses excuses
[18:19] <Langjan> why would I need excuses? 
[18:20] <Langjan> I've been on kubuntu
[18:20] <paddatrapper> Or you could host an IRC connection on a server and ssh in when you want to interact, but still be connected 24/7
[18:20] <Kilos> i think maybe you think because im brain dead you can lead me around the bush
[18:20] <mazal_> I like workspaces , at work one can hide the games in workspace 2 :)
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> mazal_ you are naughty
[18:21] <mazal_> No , resourceful
[18:21] <Kilos> you cant play games all day then complain about your employer
[18:21] <paddatrapper> I see a simple solution to that - don't complain!
[18:22] <mazal_> This reminds me of many years ago , one of the first tetris game that released , when you pressed esc key a dummy Lotus 123 screen came up
[18:22] <Kilos> hhaha
[18:22] <Kilos> Langjan to what do we owe the honour of this visit
[18:23] <mazal_> Wat het jy gebreek ?
[18:23] <Kilos> hahahaha
[18:24] <Kilos> oh my he hit silent mode
[18:24] <Langjan> julle spot met siekte seuns
[18:24] <Kilos> phone call or visitors
[18:24] <Symmetria> sup
[18:24] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[18:24] <Symmetria> man, kids are hilarious
[18:24] <Symmetria> our friend was around with their 4 year old daughter, and their daughter sees this:
[18:25] <Symmetria> kid screamed and burst into tears and hid behind her mom, her mom goes over to pat it to show her its just wood 
[18:25] <Symmetria> kid went absolutely nuts
[18:25] <Symmetria> hahahah
[18:25] <Kilos> sees this what?
[18:25] <gremble> What did the kid see
[18:25] <gremble> I am anxious now
[18:25] <Symmetria> http://server.alstonnetworks.net/hippo.png
[18:25] <Symmetria> http://server.alstonnetworks.net/hippo.png <[18:25] <Symmetria> :)
[18:26] <Symmetria> lol, some stupid carving my wife has had for years 
[18:26] <Symmetria> kid thought it was real 
[18:26] <Symmetria> must admit, it does look kinda grumpy ;p
[18:26] <Kilos> haha
[18:26] <gremble> That is the world's most unimpressed wooden hippo
[18:27] <Langjan> pinochippo
[18:27] <gremble> Excellent oppurtunity to tell the story about the nutcracker and the toys that come alive to fight the ratking xD
[18:28] <Langjan> Julle manne moet lekker kuier en speletjies speel, ons gesels weer later
[18:28] <Kilos> hey Symmetria what happened to those guys that bought all you extra pc stuff before you left
[18:29] <Kilos> they dont come here anymore
[18:29] <Kilos> dankie Langjan lekker slaap julle en bly warm
[18:29] <Kilos> en veilig
[18:30] <Langjan> julle ook dankie Kilos 
[18:31] <Langjan> Hier op Warmbad moet jy versigtig wees waar jy vir water boor om nie warm water te kry nie.. 
[18:31] <Kilos> lol
[18:31] <Langjan> serious, and if you do you have to seal it off
[18:31] <Kilos> wow
[18:32] <Langjan> Forever Resorts has sole rights to the hot water
[18:32] <Kilos> ai!
[18:32] <Langjan> 22 000 litres per hour at 54 degrees
[18:32] <Kilos> wow
[18:33] <Langjan> and they have legal rights to hog it all
[18:33] <Kilos> 54°c or f
[18:33] <Langjan> centigrade
[18:33] <Kilos> wow
[18:33] <Kilos> learn to make the ° sign
[18:34] <Langjan> I can find it - eventually but only in libre, how?
[18:34] <Kilos> thats actuall evil having control over water you drill away from their preperty
[18:35] <Kilos> make a compose key
[18:35] <Langjan> yea agreed
[18:35] <Langjan> done
[18:35] <Kilos> then hold compose key down and ht o twice
[18:35] <Langjan> letter or figure?
[18:35] <Langjan> °
[18:36] <Kilos> oh for oh my
[18:36] <Langjan> 54°
[18:36] <Kilos> die engelse slim ne
[18:36] <Kilos> 54°c
[18:36] <Langjan> 54°C
[18:36] <Kilos> ja that'nuvolari taught me
[18:37] <Langjan> what others?
[18:37] <Kilos> other what
[18:37] <Langjan> like °
[18:37] <Kilos> ne
[18:37] <Kilos> all those kappie things
[18:37] <Langjan> thats easy, hit n and then e
[18:38] <Kilos> nee man moet n ^ op he
[18:38] <Langjan> yes but things that are not on the keypad lime °
[18:38] <Kilos> i only use the degrees sign
[18:38] <Langjan> jy sê my nou sleg
[18:39] <Kilos> sien jy
[18:39] <Langjan> ek seën jou
[18:39] <Kilos> dankie
[18:39] <Langjan> ja ek ken die goeters maar nie die oo  vir ° nie
[18:39] <Langjan> my plesier
[18:40] <Langjan> lekker slaap 
[18:40] <Langjan>  en mooi loop 
[18:40] <Kilos> jy ook dankie
[18:40] <Langjan> dankie vir die leersame sessie
[18:40] <Langjan> dankie
[18:40] <Kilos> enige tyd
[18:41] <Kilos> gonna rain, he broke nothing
[18:54] <paddatrapper> I have another chance to decide on the ubuntu distro I'm running - installer crashed... Suggestions?
[18:55] <Kilos> kubuntu 14.04
[18:56] <Kilos> everything works
[18:56] <paddatrapper> Never really tried KDE. Suppose I have a good chance for distro hopping, so I'll give it a try
[18:56] <Kilos> did you use the whole drive
[18:57] <Kilos> and format it first
[18:57] <Kilos> ill try 16.04 when i get to aus and dont need mobile data
[18:58] <Kilos> then see if its as good
[18:58] <paddatrapper> Whole drive. It failed because my internet was too slow - package downloads timed out and crashed the installer
[18:58] <Kilos> install without updating same time
[18:58] <Kilos> and without those other things
[18:59] <Kilos> clean install with internat disconnected
[18:59] <Kilos> should take 10 mins
[18:59] <paddatrapper> Good idea, thanks
[19:00] <Kilos> should come with quassel installed so you can get here before even upgrading
[19:00] <pavlushka> night all, :)
[19:01] <paddatrapper> I use weechat on a VPS which I then SSH into. Find it quite useful
[19:01] <Kilos> ok
[19:03] <paddatrapper> Wow, no internet makes this install so quick, almost done already
[19:03] <Kilos> yeah
[19:04] <Kilos> my best was 7 mins till reboot
[19:04] <Kilos> on a dual core machine
[19:04] <paddatrapper> Nice. This is the first install I've done manually that has taken under a day
[19:05] <Kilos> lol
[19:05] <Kilos> if you save all your archives you cant then install and in 30 mins rsync them and update upgrade
[19:06] <paddatrapper> What do you mean?
[19:06] <Kilos>  complete up to date frsh install in under 1 hour
[19:07] <paddatrapper> Ah I see
[19:07] <Kilos> you tell update manager to leave downloaded packages in cache
[19:07] <paddatrapper> Though, I assume, remove outdated ones
[19:07] <paddatrapper> ?
[19:08] <Kilos> then rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /path to storage/
[19:08] <Kilos> you leave them all for fresh install as some are needed
[19:08] <Kilos> lemme find you a link to make kde lekker
[19:09] <Kilos> Maaz google 20 cool things to do on kubuntu 14.04
[19:09] <Maaz> Kilos: "20 cool things to do after installing Kubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr" http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/ :: "20 cool things to do after installing Kubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr - Disqus" https://disqus.com/home/discussion/binarytides/19_cool_things_to_do_after_installing_kubuntu_1404_trusty_tahr/ :: "Things to do after installing Kubuntu [Click Next] |
[19:09] <Maaz> Linux Veda" http://www.linuxveda.com/2014/12/06/things-installing-kubuntu-click-next/ ::…
[19:09] <Kilos> top link
[19:11] <Kilos> i use synaptic to save the downloaded packages because its faster and easier to use than update manager 
[19:11] <Kilos> you sposed to be teaching me
[19:12] <paddatrapper> Thanks. Looks cool! I'll have to play around with it tomorrow after Kubuntu ISO has finished downloading and I can install it. Going to have to use straight Ubuntu for Varsity tomorrow
[19:12] <paddatrapper> When it comes to apt and Ubuntu package management I don't know much outside of apt(-get) install package
[19:16] <Kilos> im here
[19:16] <Kilos> where i cant help ill find someone that can
[19:16] <Kilos> quite a few kde users here now
[19:18] <Kilos> pro and fly are kde masters
[19:19] <gremble> The few times I've had kde I switched over to quickly :P
[19:19] <gremble> I am a boring i3 kind of guy
[19:19] <Kilos> takes getting used to
[19:20] <Kilos> i said ill try it for one month and then stayed on it
[19:20] <Kilos> 14.04 is so stable why change
[19:21] <gremble> So far I am liking mate. 
[19:21] <Kilos> that i3 thing is for clever peeps
[19:21] <gremble> But the gui isn't all that important to do. As long as I can do my work, and it is linux, I am happy
[19:21] <Kilos> i used mate before they put it in thew repos
[19:21] <Kilos> was better than unity
[19:22] <Kilos> gnome2 was lekker
[19:22] <Kilos> but kse has so much more i wont change back again
[19:23] <Kilos> kde
[19:23] <gremble> Haha spacemacs is all I need <3 
[19:23] <gremble> :P
[19:24] <paddatrapper> gremble: I also like i3. The space utilization is fantastic
[19:24] <gremble> paddatrapper, on small screens it is fantastic.
[19:25] <paddatrapper> Yeah. I ran it on my lapop for about the last 2 years. But I think I'm going to try KDE for a bit and see what it feels like
[19:26] <gremble> This is some of the sentences that I have to deal with for wednesday evening, "The variance is the sum of the expected value of the conditional variance and the variance of the conditional expected value."
[19:26] <gremble> -_-
[19:26] <paddatrapper> How do I change workspaces in stock Ubuntu?
[19:26] <gremble> ctrl arrow iirc
[19:27] <gremble> ctrl+alt+ arrow
[19:27] <Kilos> ctrl alt tab
[19:28] <Kilos> or alt tab
[19:28] <Kilos> i forget
[19:28] <paddatrapper> Those sentances make almost no sense
[19:28] <Kilos> ctrl+alt+tab
[19:28] <Kilos> or alt+tab
[19:28] <Kilos> sorry , falling asleep here
[19:28] <gremble> doesn't alt+tab just switch between programs on your screen?
[19:29] <Kilos> im not sure
[19:29] <paddatrapper> Yup it does... No worries, I'll google
[19:29] <gremble> ctrl+alt+arrow not working?
[19:29] <Kilos> Maaz google how to change workspaces on 14.04
[19:29] <Maaz> Kilos: "How to use different workspaces on Ubuntu 14.04? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/459284/how-to-use-different-workspaces-on-ubuntu-14-04 :: "keyboard - Ubuntu 14.04 workspace switch hotkeys - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/524339/ubuntu-14-04-workspace-switch-hotkeys :: "Switch between the workspaces (Ubuntu 14.04) - Ask Ubuntu"
[19:29] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/571271/switch-between-the-workspaces-ubuntu-14-04 :: "add work…
[19:30] <magespaw1> that is what i do to switch, but i am on peppermint and debian
[19:30] <Kilos> last link
[19:30] <Kilos> i gotta sleep
[19:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:31] <mazal_> Night all , sleep well
[19:31] <Kilos> see you morrow time
[19:31] <gremble> Cheers you two
[19:31] <mazal_> wow , snap
[19:31] <paddatrapper> It does nothinng, but that could be because I don't have any others open
[19:31] <Kilos> lol
[19:31] <paddatrapper> night
[19:31] <gremble> I think in unity you might have to activate multiple workspaces first
[19:32] <paddatrapper> You are right - needed to enable then
[19:32] <paddatrapper> Thanks. Now it's working
[19:32] <gremble> Unity hates people. 
[19:33] <paddatrapper> I'm starting to understand that sentiment
[19:37] <paddatrapper> Though I'm loving the Ubuntu thing of things just working - wifi, contrast, volume,, alles
[19:37] <gremble> That is pretty nice
[19:38] <gremble> This statistics lecturer thinks he is a comedian. "Just for giggles, we are going to make this thing a little bit more complicated and imposing."
[19:39] <paddatrapper> Hte lecturers like that...
[19:53] <gremble> Although, reading through my notes and comments on the work, past me is sometimes an impatient asshole
[19:54] <paddatrapper> Haha. I always get the feeling that past me knew more than me and so left huge gaps in his notes...
[19:54] <paddatrapper> Which I now need
[19:56] <gremble> "This is a trivial result" now I am sitting here wondering how the .. past me knew that it was trivial. 
[19:56] <gremble> Or something like "??BOUNDS??!!" and I have no idea what that is supposed to signify.
[19:58] <paddatrapper> Lol. Yup!!
[20:18] <paddatrapper> Alright night everyone
[20:19] <gremble> Cheers