[00:08] Done that before - and recursive setting of permissions to /etc instead of just one file once :( [05:28] morning everyone [07:10] Mornings [07:28] Good morning [08:04] hi mazal gremble [08:05] Good morning Kilos [08:05] How are you today? [08:05] im good ty and you [08:05] was kinda cold this morning early [08:07] It is still kind of brisk [08:07] It is nice. It is that cold like your mouth is after you've brushed your teeth [08:08] lol === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [08:58] hi inetpro superfly maia is ordering 16.04 stuff for us [08:59] glad she is ok [09:28] My internet has gone to shit :/ === gremble_ is now known as gremble [09:34] ai! [09:56] Wat de !!! Something is laughing at me in MC ? [09:59] Kilos: see, you just need a bit of patience at times [09:59] oh and good mornings btw as well [09:59] yes inetpro but now we cant find the link where to order [10:00] sigh [10:00] I would like to buy one of those stick. Does one do it on website ? [10:00] yes mazal you can [10:00] Kilos: didn't I just say you need patience? [10:01] Maaz google where to buy 16.04 flash drives [10:01] Kilos: "Canonical Store Adds Bootable Ubuntu 16.04 USB Stick - OMG ..." http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/buy-ubuntu-16-04-usb-official :: "OSDisc.com - Buy Linux CDs, DVDs, USB Flash Drives, Books ..." https://www.osdisc.com/ :: "OSDisc.com - Linux, Ubuntu" https://www.osdisc.com/products/linux/ubuntu :: "How to Install The Real Ubuntu System on USB Flash Drive [10:01] ..." http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/11/install-real-ubuntu-os-usb-drive/ :: "Ubu… [10:01] Problem would be to get it here [10:01] SA don't have post office [10:01] i hear the pretty cover wears off, so dont use too often if you want it for looks [10:02] we are trying to order as well mazal [10:02] Ag no , I want one for the looks [10:02] then the first link i think [10:03] inetpro orders should have been in before end of april [10:03] i should have started looking for maia earlier [10:37] nee man, wat maak jy? === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [10:40] nie ek nie man [10:52] inetpro wat het ek nou verkeerd gedoen [10:52] ai! [11:21] Oom Kilos , my laaste 5 dae se werk: https://bin.snyman.info/mmm5h6hs [11:40] hmm... [11:41] als links na prentjies? [11:57] Yep , my subway is klaar [11:57] prentjies eet data seun [11:57] is dit minecraft mazal [11:58] Yep [11:58] is dit ook voltyds online data vreter [11:58] Hy gebruik omtrent 4 keer minder data [11:59] en kos wat om te begin [11:59] Toe ek gekoop het was $27 [11:59] Weet nie wat is hy nou nie [11:59] sjoe [12:00] julle ryk mense [12:04] Nie rêrig nie, mens eet meer in 'n paar dae as dit [12:05] hahahaha [12:06] i would rather feed my fat tummy [12:06] Dis so , daai is maar twee dae se eet [12:06] as jy takeaways koop ja [12:07] ek kan heelwat kos maak met daai geld [12:07] Kook kos is maar net so duur. Mens kry nie meer goedkoop kos nie. Net 'n brood is al R12 [12:08] R8.99 at checkers [12:10] R383 [12:10] sak meel en klomp maalvleis en groente [12:11] Dankie ANC. Toe ek gekoop het was dit so R250 [12:11] lol [12:11] Waarheid. Hulle trek die land deur hulle gatte en die rand waarde en ons lei daaronder [12:12] ssshhhhhhh [12:12] no politics [12:12] Is feite [12:13] we know but there is no such thing as freedom of speach [12:13] speech [12:13] sjoe [12:13] Maaz spell speech [12:13] Kilos: Looks good to me [12:13] ai! [12:13] Not in SA anyway [12:13] No freedom at all [12:13] must be my eyes [12:18] Pitty I did those pic uploads , otherwise I could have checked the data use [12:18] Know how long I played today , but those pic uploads will mess the total up a bit [12:19] i dont think odd pics is much [12:19] but more than text anyway [12:20] I used 300mb today. That's for mail , browsing , pic uploads , irc , and about 4 hours of mc [12:20] So MC is about 250mb [12:20] Very rough estimate [12:20] For about 4 hours [12:20] yeah iirc minetest was 100m an hour when i stopped [12:21] hi chesedo [12:21] Mc us roughly 40mb/hour [12:21] thats not too bad [12:21] Yeah is fine. [12:21] but no good on a 3g bundle that must make 2 months [12:21] I should do a proper test one day. Reset router , close all apps , mc for an hour , check usage [12:22] yeah do that [12:22] Maybe tonight. Moeg gebou nou :P [12:22] when i get to aus one day ill play minetest again as well for 3 months if i find time [12:22] i loved minetest [12:26] but becoming an ubuntu member has cut own pc time down lots [12:27] well the stuff after membership that is [12:27] thats why i can remember things, kop loop oor [12:28] hehehe [12:28] This is one thing I like about this B315 router. Keeps usage data for every session. Very handy for me that has consoles as well. [12:29] Now I can see exactly what I used on a day , consoles included [12:29] yeah [12:29] i run iftop to watch data use [12:29] My previous router didn't have it ( or I didn't know that it did ) [12:30] Software wise I haven't been able to find a good solution [12:30] For data usage I mean [12:30] haha you are learning more all the time [12:31] Does iftop remember , or does it only capture while open ? [12:31] i havent checked in the settings, i use as is, and check every now and again [12:32] Nah seems it must be open [12:32] i think it can log stuff [12:32] What I like about iftop though it shows what is connecting to where [12:32] yes [12:32] very lekker [12:33] have you tried redswitch [12:33] will be good for you [12:33] hmmm , this interesting , network device names have changed in 16.04 [12:33] it's eno now , not eth [12:33] what a hassle when names change [12:33] ai! [12:33] eno1 here [12:34] then gotta start learning all over [12:34] Wonder why and what eno abriviates [12:34] eth was ethernet [12:34] Maaz define eno [12:34] Kilos: I don't know about eno. Maybe you meant NO, Neo-, Eon, Endo-, Ento-, Enow, Keno, Leno, Ano, ZnO, ego, Exo-, End, Ens, Ent-, no, en, neo, eon, enol, keno, reno, zeno, ano, ono, edo, ezo, end, ene, enl, enq, eo, ero, eio, eko, eto, elo, enp, ens, ena or enf? [12:35] hehehehe Maaz not on 16.04 yet [12:35] lol [12:35] - maaz is very out of date [12:37] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-interfaces-name-change-in-ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf.html [12:37] Since 15.10 it seems [12:38] So eno1 means my interface is an onboard one [12:38] If it was a pci card then would be ens1 [12:44] oh my [12:44] you making me bang to upgrade [13:46] hi nlsthzn [14:32] good afternoon [14:32] hi magespawn [14:36] hello uncle Kilos ... all :) [14:36] how are things that side today Kilos ? [14:36] hi nlsthzn [14:36] o/ [14:36] all fine here ty nlsthzn and by you? [14:37] warm and sunny, just been out for the afternoon [14:37] :) [14:37] yeah been a nice day here too after a cold morning === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec === cyrilb_ is now known as cyrilb [15:41] paddatrapper why you been so quiet [15:42] paddatrapper nuvolari can we do the project on launchpad because when you work there you get karma which counts when you apply for membership [15:44] also im not a github fan, but your choice [15:44] Why are you not a fan of github? [15:44] bushtech why so quiet [15:45] its too difficult for me to understand gremble [15:45] Oh alright [15:45] Kilos: busy ripping LP's [15:45] how bushtech ? [15:45] long playing records? [15:46] Yep [15:46] wow [15:46] Using audacity [15:50] ripping them into flac so get better quality than CD's === aalston is now known as Symmetria [15:52] LP traditionally has a lower quality, so even if you have it uncompressed, its not that good? [15:52] Well, not uncompressed, lossless [15:53] try playing a LP song back to back with same song on CD [15:54] even my rock and roll destroyed ears can hear the difference [15:55] which one is better bushtech [15:55] Lots of audio loss on cd's [15:55] wow [15:55] and downloaded mp3's are rubbish [15:55] i lost a big pile of lps that i left in the caravan fotr some years in the sun [15:55] sadness [15:57] Got 170 odd here, gonna take me the rest of my life to rip them I think [15:57] I have two xD [15:57] lol [15:57] i love old music [15:58] NIN Pretty hate machine and a rereleased Beatles Let it be [15:59] i enjoy instrumentals as well like the shadows and the ventures [15:59] i mean that kinda music [15:59] love good guitar music [15:59] yebo yes [16:01] Sonny Landreth plays a mean slide guitar [16:03] im sure much of todays music you have to be totally goofed or smashed to be able to enjoy it [16:03] lots i dont think anyone can understand [16:04] Yep, not much modern stuff I like [16:32] Kilos: been busy studying and fixing my borked OS install... Accidentally started to run sudo rm - rf /usr... Removed a couple of key files before I realised [16:32] ouch [16:32] im not rushing, just querying [16:33] guys that would like membership in the future must look at all the + ways to make it easier when they apply [16:47] paddatrapper, I promise that I didn't exhale sharply to indicate laughter when I read that you did sudo rm -rf /usr. I am curious as to why you would do that though [16:54] gremble: I was testing creating a python tar install package which extracted to ./usr which was all set with root ownership, etc. Muscle memory made me type /usr instead of just usr [16:55] Ah ha. [16:56] We've all shot our leg off with rm. I still have a HDD here where I overwrote the first 200MB of the plate with an ISO using dd [16:56] Realised after I started wondering why it was taking so long [16:56] I am still holding out for some miracle to let me recover the content [16:56] Ouch [17:25] gremble: you can try photorec, but if that can't do it, I'm doubtful anything else will [17:27] A friend suggested that I pipe the data to look for file headers. I have tried photorec and it returned nothing, so I doubt any manual headhunting that I will do will fare any better [17:28] Right now the drive is standing on my desk as a monument to unattentive stupidity. Every time I see it I remember that I have to think about what I am doing and why I am doing it :P [17:28] scalpel works with headers i think [17:29] run all the recovery tools [17:29] testdisk foremost and scalpel [17:29] photorec is in there somewhere i think [17:33] gremble https://bin.snyman.info/mmm9gwfg [17:34] in that order [17:34] Thanks Kilos [17:34] I will keep that [17:35] if you go through that sequence and get nill out nothing will recover that data [17:36] i used to enjoy recovering data on crashed drives [17:36] you just need lots of space if the drive is large [17:37] it is a 2tb drive. It is my largest drive [17:37] oh my [17:38] testdisk you can untick recording [17:39] but it can write back missing partitions [17:39] not recording logging [17:39] good luck [17:40] Thanks Kilos. I am definitely going to be coming back to you when I do it ;) [17:41] hopefully to thank me not shoot me [17:41] hehe [17:41] * Kilos wonders where inetpro is lurking [17:41] I will not point the ire of all these people at my by doing something like that :P [17:42] hahaha [17:46] hi magespaw1 [17:47] you pawing the mobile [17:56] no just got disconnected [18:04] Ubuntu is so much easier to install than Arch! I haven't had to open a wiki page once [18:04] lol [18:05] try kubuntu man [18:05] everything works [18:05] hi Langjan [18:05] whats broken [18:05] hi Kilos hoe gaan dit? [18:05] goed dankie en self [18:05] ook goed dankie, niks gebreek nie - kan jy glo? [18:06] sjoe [18:06] mooi oom [18:06] winter is hier [18:06] Het jy lekker naweek gehad? Behalwe vir die rugby... [18:06] ja hier ook kouerig [18:07] en baie drrog [18:07] droog [18:07] nogal rustig dankie behalwe vir dom skape wat dink als is groener op n ander kant [18:07] kwaai droog ja [18:07] dit is! kyk maar self... [18:07] die gras [18:08] hahaha [18:08] lmgga [18:08] haha' [18:08] sjoe [18:08] my maag is te vol om te lag man [18:08] ok bly jy het lekker ge-eet, wies die kok? [18:09] do you actually mean unity hasnt given any probs? [18:09] sussie [18:09] ok, bly sy daar by jou? [18:09] ek bly by haar en haar man [18:10] o, ok - wat doen hulle vir 'n lewe? [18:10] Haven't gotten to Unity yet, waiting for the install to finish. I plan on using i3 instead of Unity though [18:10] hy werk op trokke en graders en al daai groot masjiene [18:10] hi paddatrapper what's i3? [18:10] en sy maak trou rokke ens [18:11] werk sy van die huis af? [18:11] serious gui thing [18:11] dont even try it [18:11] Langjan: Tiling window manager [18:11] http://i3wm.org/ [18:12] you know Langjan you should actually stay online here everytime your pc is on [18:12] ok, bokant my vuurmaakplek... [18:13] ja dis n kwaai ding daai vir slim jong mense [18:13] then you will ask me what's broke a 1 000 times a day [18:13] if you stay online you can read what we discuss all day [18:14] no man ill see its working [18:14] ai! ek sukkel met my volk [18:14] eish ek het baie werk om te doen Kilos [18:14] ya ek ook maar pc bly aan [18:14] myne ook, werk baie op hom [18:15] het jy net een workspace [18:15] een desktop met 4 w/spaces [18:16] one day you must teamviewer me and see how easy it is with 9 [18:16] irc has one workspace on its own [18:16] well its just a single click away anyway... [18:16] mail has one and pidgin has one [18:16] do [18:17] others are for browsers and playing games [18:17] so why different workspaces if you can click from one to the other? [18:17] yes man but then you cant use the excuse you cant be on irc because you work on your pc [18:18] i wish you would give kubuntu a try for one month [18:19] then you wont be unifying all your contacts [18:19] well sometimes, often I need to focus on what I'm doing, so mails and messages coming thro are distractions [18:19] hahaha [18:19] Workspaces are the best thing after the terminal to happen to Linux [18:19] excuses excuses [18:19] why would I need excuses? [18:20] I've been on kubuntu [18:20] Or you could host an IRC connection on a server and ssh in when you want to interact, but still be connected 24/7 [18:20] i think maybe you think because im brain dead you can lead me around the bush [18:20] I like workspaces , at work one can hide the games in workspace 2 :) [18:20] lol [18:20] mazal_ you are naughty [18:21] No , resourceful [18:21] you cant play games all day then complain about your employer [18:21] I see a simple solution to that - don't complain! [18:22] This reminds me of many years ago , one of the first tetris game that released , when you pressed esc key a dummy Lotus 123 screen came up [18:22] hhaha [18:22] Langjan to what do we owe the honour of this visit [18:23] Wat het jy gebreek ? [18:23] hahahaha [18:24] oh my he hit silent mode [18:24] julle spot met siekte seuns [18:24] phone call or visitors [18:24] sup [18:24] hi Symmetria [18:24] man, kids are hilarious [18:24] our friend was around with their 4 year old daughter, and their daughter sees this: [18:25] kid screamed and burst into tears and hid behind her mom, her mom goes over to pat it to show her its just wood [18:25] kid went absolutely nuts [18:25] hahahah [18:25] sees this what? [18:25] What did the kid see [18:25] I am anxious now [18:25] http://server.alstonnetworks.net/hippo.png [18:25] http://server.alstonnetworks.net/hippo.png <=== THAT [18:25] :) [18:26] lol, some stupid carving my wife has had for years [18:26] kid thought it was real [18:26] must admit, it does look kinda grumpy ;p [18:26] haha [18:26] That is the world's most unimpressed wooden hippo [18:27] pinochippo [18:27] Excellent oppurtunity to tell the story about the nutcracker and the toys that come alive to fight the ratking xD [18:28] Julle manne moet lekker kuier en speletjies speel, ons gesels weer later [18:28] hey Symmetria what happened to those guys that bought all you extra pc stuff before you left [18:29] they dont come here anymore [18:29] dankie Langjan lekker slaap julle en bly warm [18:29] en veilig [18:30] julle ook dankie Kilos [18:31] Hier op Warmbad moet jy versigtig wees waar jy vir water boor om nie warm water te kry nie.. [18:31] lol [18:31] serious, and if you do you have to seal it off [18:31] wow [18:32] Forever Resorts has sole rights to the hot water [18:32] ai! [18:32] 22 000 litres per hour at 54 degrees [18:32] wow [18:33] and they have legal rights to hog it all [18:33] 54°c or f [18:33] centigrade [18:33] wow [18:33] learn to make the ° sign [18:34] I can find it - eventually but only in libre, how? [18:34] thats actuall evil having control over water you drill away from their preperty [18:35] make a compose key [18:35] yea agreed [18:35] done [18:35] then hold compose key down and ht o twice [18:35] letter or figure? [18:35] ° [18:36] oh for oh my [18:36] 54° [18:36] die engelse slim ne [18:36] 54°c [18:36] 54°C [18:36] ja that'nuvolari taught me [18:37] what others? [18:37] other what [18:37] like ° [18:37] ne [18:37] all those kappie things [18:37] thats easy, hit n and then e [18:38] nee man moet n ^ op he [18:38] yes but things that are not on the keypad lime ° [18:38] i only use the degrees sign [18:38] jy sê my nou sleg [18:39] sien jy [18:39] ek seën jou [18:39] dankie [18:39] ja ek ken die goeters maar nie die oo vir ° nie [18:39] my plesier [18:40] lekker slaap [18:40] en mooi loop [18:40] jy ook dankie [18:40] dankie vir die leersame sessie [18:40] dankie [18:40] enige tyd [18:41] gonna rain, he broke nothing [18:54] I have another chance to decide on the ubuntu distro I'm running - installer crashed... Suggestions? [18:55] kubuntu 14.04 [18:56] everything works [18:56] Never really tried KDE. Suppose I have a good chance for distro hopping, so I'll give it a try [18:56] did you use the whole drive [18:57] and format it first [18:57] ill try 16.04 when i get to aus and dont need mobile data [18:58] then see if its as good [18:58] Whole drive. It failed because my internet was too slow - package downloads timed out and crashed the installer [18:58] install without updating same time [18:58] and without those other things [18:59] clean install with internat disconnected [18:59] should take 10 mins [18:59] Good idea, thanks [19:00] should come with quassel installed so you can get here before even upgrading [19:00] night all, :) [19:01] I use weechat on a VPS which I then SSH into. Find it quite useful [19:01]