[05:04] <zequence> sakrecoer: langasek sent a post to the ubuntu-release mail list, and asks flavour leaders to tell which size limits they have for their ISOs
[05:05] <zequence> DVD is our size limit, according to the various sizes he gives example for
[05:07] <zequence> Don't see any point in subscribing to oversize notifications. I mean, if we do ever grow beyond the DVD size, we just need to up the size for the release team, if that is a thing still at that time.
[09:06] <sakrecoer> zequence: thanks! so i'll them dvd size then :) on my way to read that mail..
[09:11] <sakrecoer> zequence: you suggestion seems wise to me. i'll just write that :)
[09:12] <sakrecoer> also, need to remember to check that list more regulary
[09:48] <zequence> sakrecoer: Well, the mail was just sent, and I happened to see it first. But, yes, it's good to keep an eye out posts on that mail list.
[10:44] <sakrecoer> zequence: :) 
[10:44] <sakrecoer> also, did my email come through?
[10:46] <sakrecoer> i've got a few othee flavpurs reply inbetween, but my own.. sent over an hour ago, but maybe the default settings of that list isn't set to deliver to sender..?
[10:46] <sakrecoer> gah... fingers on the phone spelling is borken
[13:37] <OvenWerks> After all that fuss with making qjackctl work with qt5, I am noticing that qtractor is still qt4 :)
[13:56] <sakrecoer> hah! OvenWerks, you, ross and the other guys involved did an awsome job tho! can't remember bigging you up for that!
[13:56] <sakrecoer> first timne ever i tried it today actualy
[13:56] <sakrecoer> kindof disapointed that transport control is in an undermenu, but i doubt that is up to you
[13:56] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: the only thing I really did was say "this package is import and must work"
[13:56] <sakrecoer> haha :D
[13:57] <sakrecoer> well, good inception job then :D
[13:58] <sakrecoer> but regarding the indicator itself, i mean, who starts and stops the server every now and then? i would have put it the otherway arround: transport accessible, and server start and stop in under menu... whatever :D
[14:04] <sakrecoer> it is a bit weird to, to make the rolldown menu dissapear, you have to press "hide", which i first thought would remove the the entire indicator.
[14:05] <sakrecoer> clicking the icon again, will open a new roldown menu on top of the other..
[14:05] <sakrecoer> but i guees should file some bug for that, along with a wish for direct access to transport control
[15:23] <zequence> sakrecoer: I saw your mail before I replied even, so it must have gone trough
[16:24] <autumna> *steps in*
[16:26] <autumna> question about the package recommending. what is our procedure to request a package to be updated? does it go to zequence's "packaging wish list"? or does it go to the what we want in next version list? or both?
[16:26] <autumna> context is that the font forge package we have in ubuntu seems to be ancient and it would be very good to update it considering we do keep it as one of the default software. 
[16:30] <zequence> autumna: Anything in the "universe" repository (most of what we distribute) is actually packaged in Debian
[16:31] <zequence> autumna: I looked into that packaged earlier, and sure enough, Debian has updated it shortly after upstream did
[16:31] <zequence> We automatically get packages from Debian until "Debian Import Freeze", which happens about 2 months before each release.
[16:32] <autumna> zequence: wait which version are we using exactly? my understanding was that it was from 2012. it is possible I misunderstood through *double checks*
[16:33] <zequence> autumna: Upstream (the original authors) did not update it until quite recently
[16:33] <zequence> Less than a month later, it was also updated in Debian
[16:33] <autumna> so the recent development just started again?
[16:33] <autumna> aaah ok
[16:34] <autumna> well that's better it means we don't have to do anything. yay! :) 
[16:34] <zequence> usually this happens automatically, so not a big concern for us
[16:34] <zequence> Yep :)
[17:00] <OvenWerks> zequence: have we started getting Y daily ISOs yet?
[17:01] <OvenWerks> I guess so...
[17:02] <zequence> OvenWerks: Yes, I think that starts happening as soon as the new cycle is open for business
[17:06] <OvenWerks> autumna: they do have a ppa: https://launchpad.net/~fontforge/+archive/ubuntu/fontforge
[17:08] <OvenWerks> I would imagine that is the source for debian (or from).
[17:08] <autumna> oh I know... (even through they don't have the xenial version in there yet) it is better to get an up to date version directly from install through since it is one of our preinstalled programs
[17:11] <autumna> zequence: where do you check if a package is updated in debian or not? I think I am looking at the wrong place
[17:12] <zequence> autumna: Have you isntalled ubuntu-dev-tools?
[17:12] <autumna> no.. but let me do that. then :)
[17:13] <autumna> (I had setup beginnings of a dev-env on a virtual box, but that went away during one of the reinstalls)
[17:14] <zequence> autumna: Once you have, you can use the tool rmadison to see which version of a source package is in which distro and release
[17:14] <zequence> Like this, for fontforge 'rmadison -u debian fontforge'
[17:15] <zequence> Remember, that installable packages are binary packages, and may not be named after the source package
[17:15] <zequence> So, for rmadison, you need to know the name of the source package, from where the binary is built
[17:15] <autumna> aaah
[17:17] <autumna> ok, thanks. let me do the install and try it. 
[17:33] <OvenWerks> ack! can we make zsync default :)
[19:12] <zequence> Ross really makes things happen on the testing side of things