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flocculantknome: so we build early in the morning now 08:02
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knome:)09:20
bluesabreochosi: indeed, clutter seems to be on its way out the door12:39
bluesabreflocculant, I'll try to look at it (thunar) tonight, on my phone, and only my desktop password manager knows my password :D12:40
flocculantbluesabre: ok :)12:50
flocculantI thought it was 1password! 12:50
ochosipassword123412:54
flocculant\o/12:55
flocculantnow I know yours too :p12:55
ochosibluesabre: i wonder what we should do in the meantime with parole... disable clutter?12:55
ochosiflocculant: ooops :)12:55
flocculantand you know mine as well :D12:55
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knomeflocculant, around?14:32
flocculantknome: yup15:16
knomeflocculant, so... http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-qa15:18
knomeflocculant, that's some test data, but you can see how it looks15:18
knomeflocculant, also see the item in the menu15:18
knomeflocculant, anything else you need there? :)15:19
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flocculantknome: that's more or less what I had in mind - thanks :)15:25
knomegreat!15:25
knomebtw...15:25
knomeif you want any links to trackers or whatever to the qa status page... just poke me and i'll add them15:26
flocculantmmm15:26
flocculanthave to think about that 15:26
knomesure, no hurry15:26
flocculantknome: actually - see no reason why that status page shouldn't link to iso tracker 15:35
knomeyep15:35
knomelet me find the right mousepad window again...15:35
flocculantlol15:35
knomedone15:37
flocculantta :)15:38
flocculantonce this is dusted and mail list knows - I will disable the image test on the tracker15:40
flocculantbiab15:40
Unit193LP #1576576, looking less likely.16:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576576 in Mozilla Firefox "Update to 3.20 needs work and coordination" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157657616:21
Unit193ochosi: ↑ GTK .20 looking less likely.16:21
Unit193(This is not based on my own idea of likely, read it in #u-devel.)16:22
dkesselnice, so that is the autopilot boot result on the dev tracker?16:40
knomedkessel, no16:41
knomedkessel, it's manual by the QA team16:42
dkesseloh :(16:44
knomeflocculant said the autopilot boot result is useless16:45
knome:P16:45
flocculantdkessel: the autopilot thing seems to have died again 17:07
flocculantand even when it's up - most fails seem to be in the test - not the image17:07
flocculantwasn't interested in waiting for another cycle to pass by17:08
flocculantactually seems to be up 17:13
flocculantreporting fails still17:13
dkesselsure, i understand17:23
flocculantknome: possible to have update date/time on the admin page?17:25
knomemaybe17:26
flocculantjust thinking - fine while it's just 1 person doing it17:27
knomeokay17:27
flocculantbut no way for anyone to check it's updated 17:27
knomebe assured, once i've figured this one thing out, things will be much nicer for everybody17:27
flocculant:)17:28
knomeflocculant, there is, just see the qa status page and see if anything is "unconfirmed"17:28
knome...but yeah, not on the admin17:28
flocculantknome: aah - so at 2am it switches to unconfirmed? 17:29
knomeyep17:29
flocculantmmm - ok then I think update time would be superfluous 17:29
knome:)17:29
flocculantobviously didn't read that 2am thing properly earlier :)17:29
knomethat happens17:30
flocculantwhat happens? 17:31
flocculant:p17:31
knomenot reading properly17:31
knomeand not reading at all17:31
knomeand trolling17:31
flocculant:)17:31
knome(:17:31
knome!team | meeting in 5ish19:24
ubottumeeting in 5ish: akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit19319:24
knome#startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting19:30
meetingologyMeeting started Mon May  2 19:30:08 2016 UTC.  The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.19:30
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick19:30
knomewho's around today?19:30
akxwi-daveaye19:30
knomehello akxwi-dave :)19:30
flocculantI'm around 19:30
flocculanttuit19:30
dkesselhey there o/19:31
knomeUnit193 is not around, i take it19:31
Unit193Certainly not, nope.19:31
flocculantphew19:31
knomewhat about ochosi?19:31
* knome shrugs19:31
knome#topic Open action items19:31
knomenone19:31
knome#topic Updates and Announcements19:31
knome#subtopic Milestone participation (flocculant)19:31
flocculantwe're only participating in Final Beta this cycle19:32
knomeack19:32
knome#info Xubuntu will only do Final Beta for 16.1019:32
knomeanybody have anything on that?19:32
knomeno?19:32
knomemoving on.19:32
knome#topic Discussion19:32
knome#subtopic Raspberry Pi images in 16.10 (dkessel)19:33
knomedkessel, you're up!19:33
dkesselwow, that's fast.19:33
knomethat happens... :)19:33
nairwolfI'm here19:33
AuroraAvenueo/19:33
dkesselwell i want to propose testing the raspi images this cycle19:33
knomehello nairwolf, AuroraAvenue 19:33
knomedkessel, they are already being built, i assume so ;)19:34
knome(well i know they are...)19:34
dkesselsure19:34
flocculantwho's going to do this testing? 19:34
knomei would suggest the following:19:34
knomelet's create unofficial testcases for them for 16.10 in the iso tracker -- obviously leading to an unofficial, community-driven project at most19:35
knomeif we seem to get a lot of interest and testing, then we can re-evaluate whether we want to make it official for 17.0419:35
flocculanthang on19:35
knomeyes19:36
flocculantI still want to know who's going to do this testing ... 19:36
dkesselwell i have a pi and i can test.19:36
knomei would imagine dkessel at least19:36
dkesselflocculant: want a pi? ;)19:36
knomethe rest - we/i don't know19:36
flocculantdkessel: no thanks - I have enough on my plate as it is ;)19:36
knomeif only dkessel tests them, then we can say "ok, at least we tried" and not release it even as an unofficial community project19:37
nairwolfBadly, I don't have a pi, but I have an Odroid from hardkernel19:37
akxwi-davei have a pi as well19:37
flocculantfrankly I'm more interested in us getting Core and testing that19:37
knomesince the building of the images is done already, we don't get any more workload from that19:37
dkesselnairwolf: if you want a pi - no problem :)19:37
knomeflocculant, same here, but otoh, since this comes from team, and there are people who are willing/volunteering to test it...19:38
flocculantmmm19:38
flocculantnothing to stop us adding something to the tracker - same was a the community core thing19:38
knomewe just communicate it's unofficial and least priority ATM19:38
knomeflocculant, indeed - and it's pretty fast to do that, especially if they can use the same testcases19:39
flocculantI'm not willing to put much QA towards it - hard enough to do what we need to do 19:39
nairwolfdkessel: I should be able to find one. 19:39
flocculantassuming lts+1 cycle follows normal behaviour19:39
knomewe probably should do a quick round on the mailing list about this as well19:39
knomedkessel, want to send some kind of an email with a plan how we would go forward with this to the -devel mailing list?19:40
flocculantpersonally I'm still the same as I was last time this was brought up - but let's see what we get from the rest of team19:40
knomedkessel, if you want, i can help you write that19:40
dkesselknome: i can make a draft and check that with you before sending19:41
nairwolfdkessel: Are you using a Pi with Xubuntu actually ?19:41
knomeok, great19:41
knome#action dkessel to draft a mail about pi image testing for 16.10, knome to review19:41
meetingologyACTION: dkessel to draft a mail about pi image testing for 16.10, knome to review19:41
knome#link https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/19:41
knomenote that xubuntu is already on that list with "no" on "community support"19:42
knomeanything else on this subject?19:42
knomeok, moving on19:43
knome#topic New Project Lead (ochosi/knome)19:43
knomesince we don't have ochosi around, let's not start the process quite yet, but feel free to discuss!19:44
knome(mostly team i guess...)19:44
knomenothing? ok, let's continue via email19:45
knome#topic Schedule next meeting19:45
Unit193I'm pretty certain everyone is fine with the council idea.19:45
knomeit's ochosi's turn! lucky winner!19:45
knome#action ochosi to schedule next meeting19:45
meetingologyACTION: ochosi to schedule next meeting19:45
knomepleia2, want to say something to get your name on the nicks list?19:46
pleia2I'll follow up in email re leader/council ;)19:46
knomehooray!19:46
knome#endmeeting19:46
meetingologyMeeting ended Mon May  2 19:46:22 2016 UTC.  19:46
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-05-02-19.30.moin.txt19:46
knomethanks everybody19:46
knomefast meeting today :P19:46
flocculantthanks knome 19:46
knomenp as always19:46
knomecomes from the spine already19:46
flocculant:)19:46
nairwolfReally fast meeting ^^19:47
knomeand minutes are up19:47
knomeand hooray, i said more lines than the rest combined19:47
knomeway to go me19:47
flocculant:)19:48
Unit193Would the meeting chair go to the council or stick with project leads?  I think I said before, but could talk to kcouncil and see if they have any input too.19:48
knomeimo, the meeting chair could stay with team leaders19:48
flocculantI think we should carry on as we already do19:48
knomeit spreads the work more evenly19:48
knomewhich is always a good idea19:49
knomei don't want the council to be another one of those "i don't want to apply because it means $toomuchwork"19:49
knomebecause there definitely are such19:49
flocculantmmm19:49
Unit193Have to make sure and keep the members responsive too.19:50
flocculantyes19:50
flocculantthat said - it'd be nice to see team responsive to mails for team too ;)19:51
akxwi-davejust map me xpl and i';ll get you lot to do the work  :-)19:51
flocculantha ha 19:51
Unit193I think generally people are responsive to emails.19:52
knomeyes19:52
knomeexcept a few people, who probably shouldn't be on the team *cough*19:53
AuroraAvenuethat's me :)19:53
knomeAuroraAvenue, you aren't on the team :P19:53
knomeso we can't kick you out either!19:53
* AuroraAvenue thinks the same still applies.19:53
AuroraAvenuebye o/ 'kick me'19:54
Unit193Could ping the two, see if they're still alive and if they actually want to stick on and plan to do anything.19:56
akxwi-dave:-)19:56
* flocculant wonders which two 19:56
Unit193Jackson, Mica.19:57
knomeyes19:57
flocculantjust wondering if the same two :)19:57
Unit193Also maybe that Pasi guy, he's been in there a loooong time.19:57
flocculantand he's bad man as well 19:58
knomeyes indeed19:58
nairwolfakxwi-dave20:07
nairwolfoups20:08
ochosievening everyone20:15
ochosisorry for arriving late :(20:15
ochosijust came home20:15
ochosiUnit193: when do i read that in  u-devel?20:15
nairwolfhi ochosi ;)20:17
nairwolfyou want this ? http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-05-02-19.30.moin.txt ?20:18
ochosihi nairwolf 20:18
ochosii meanwhile skimmed the backlog20:18
ochosiso it's fine ;)20:18
ochosibut thanks20:18
Unit193ochosi: In this handy paste I doctored, I mean provided: https://paste.unit193.net/?dfe0377c27ee7099#NakKAUt8N6u/hvgkv9UyYmroc9iUAroh7nawAsb9Wkg=20:19
nairwolfI'm just doing a daily testing on real hardware. 20:20
nairwolfHave you ever seen this message "ubi-console-setup crashed" ? 20:20
nairwolfubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing ? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken20:21
nairwolfI've chosen the option "erase disk and install"20:21
nairwolfOh, it's this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/157754020:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1577540 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-console-setup failing on yakkety images" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:23
nairwolfHow can I have access to /var/log/syslog if I'm just starting a new installation. Where is syslog in this case ? 20:24
nairwolfIn the old OS installed ? 20:24
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nairwolfgood night21:35

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