[08:02] knome: so we build early in the morning now === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [09:20] :) [12:39] ochosi: indeed, clutter seems to be on its way out the door [12:40] flocculant, I'll try to look at it (thunar) tonight, on my phone, and only my desktop password manager knows my password :D [12:50] bluesabre: ok :) [12:50] I thought it was 1password! [12:54] password1234 [12:55] \o/ [12:55] now I know yours too :p [12:55] bluesabre: i wonder what we should do in the meantime with parole... disable clutter? [12:55] flocculant: ooops :) [12:55] and you know mine as well :D === therealnanotube is now known as nanotube [14:32] flocculant, around? [15:16] knome: yup [15:18] flocculant, so... http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-qa [15:18] flocculant, that's some test data, but you can see how it looks [15:18] flocculant, also see the item in the menu [15:19] flocculant, anything else you need there? :) === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [15:25] knome: that's more or less what I had in mind - thanks :) [15:25] great! [15:25] btw... [15:26] if you want any links to trackers or whatever to the qa status page... just poke me and i'll add them [15:26] mmm [15:26] have to think about that [15:26] sure, no hurry [15:35] knome: actually - see no reason why that status page shouldn't link to iso tracker [15:35] yep [15:35] let me find the right mousepad window again... [15:35] lol [15:37] done [15:38] ta :) [15:40] once this is dusted and mail list knows - I will disable the image test on the tracker [15:40] biab [16:21] LP #1576576, looking less likely. [16:21] Launchpad bug 1576576 in Mozilla Firefox "Update to 3.20 needs work and coordination" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576576 [16:21] ochosi: ↑ GTK .20 looking less likely. [16:22] (This is not based on my own idea of likely, read it in #u-devel.) [16:40] nice, so that is the autopilot boot result on the dev tracker? [16:41] dkessel, no [16:42] dkessel, it's manual by the QA team [16:44] oh :( [16:45] flocculant said the autopilot boot result is useless [16:45] :P [17:07] dkessel: the autopilot thing seems to have died again [17:07] and even when it's up - most fails seem to be in the test - not the image [17:08] wasn't interested in waiting for another cycle to pass by [17:13] actually seems to be up [17:13] reporting fails still [17:23] sure, i understand [17:25] knome: possible to have update date/time on the admin page? [17:26] maybe [17:27] just thinking - fine while it's just 1 person doing it [17:27] okay [17:27] but no way for anyone to check it's updated [17:27] be assured, once i've figured this one thing out, things will be much nicer for everybody [17:28] :) [17:28] flocculant, there is, just see the qa status page and see if anything is "unconfirmed" [17:28] ...but yeah, not on the admin [17:29] knome: aah - so at 2am it switches to unconfirmed? [17:29] yep [17:29] mmm - ok then I think update time would be superfluous [17:29] :) [17:29] obviously didn't read that 2am thing properly earlier :) [17:30] that happens [17:31] what happens? [17:31] :p [17:31] not reading properly [17:31] and not reading at all [17:31] and trolling [17:31] :) [17:31] (: [19:24] !team | meeting in 5ish [19:24] meeting in 5ish: akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 [19:30] #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting [19:30] Meeting started Mon May 2 19:30:08 2016 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [19:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [19:30] who's around today? [19:30] aye [19:30] hello akxwi-dave :) [19:30] I'm around [19:30] tuit [19:31] hey there o/ [19:31] Unit193 is not around, i take it [19:31] Certainly not, nope. [19:31] phew [19:31] what about ochosi? [19:31] * knome shrugs [19:31] #topic Open action items [19:31] none [19:31] #topic Updates and Announcements [19:31] #subtopic Milestone participation (flocculant) [19:32] we're only participating in Final Beta this cycle [19:32] ack [19:32] #info Xubuntu will only do Final Beta for 16.10 [19:32] anybody have anything on that? [19:32] no? [19:32] moving on. [19:32] #topic Discussion [19:33] #subtopic Raspberry Pi images in 16.10 (dkessel) [19:33] dkessel, you're up! [19:33] wow, that's fast. [19:33] that happens... :) [19:33] I'm here [19:33] o/ [19:33] well i want to propose testing the raspi images this cycle [19:33] hello nairwolf, AuroraAvenue [19:34] dkessel, they are already being built, i assume so ;) [19:34] (well i know they are...) [19:34] sure [19:34] who's going to do this testing? [19:34] i would suggest the following: [19:35] let's create unofficial testcases for them for 16.10 in the iso tracker -- obviously leading to an unofficial, community-driven project at most [19:35] if we seem to get a lot of interest and testing, then we can re-evaluate whether we want to make it official for 17.04 [19:35] hang on [19:36] yes [19:36] I still want to know who's going to do this testing ... [19:36] well i have a pi and i can test. [19:36] i would imagine dkessel at least [19:36] flocculant: want a pi? ;) [19:36] the rest - we/i don't know [19:36] dkessel: no thanks - I have enough on my plate as it is ;) [19:37] if only dkessel tests them, then we can say "ok, at least we tried" and not release it even as an unofficial community project [19:37] Badly, I don't have a pi, but I have an Odroid from hardkernel [19:37] i have a pi as well [19:37] frankly I'm more interested in us getting Core and testing that [19:37] since the building of the images is done already, we don't get any more workload from that [19:37] nairwolf: if you want a pi - no problem :) [19:38] flocculant, same here, but otoh, since this comes from team, and there are people who are willing/volunteering to test it... [19:38] mmm [19:38] nothing to stop us adding something to the tracker - same was a the community core thing [19:38] we just communicate it's unofficial and least priority ATM [19:39] flocculant, indeed - and it's pretty fast to do that, especially if they can use the same testcases [19:39] I'm not willing to put much QA towards it - hard enough to do what we need to do [19:39] dkessel: I should be able to find one. [19:39] assuming lts+1 cycle follows normal behaviour [19:39] we probably should do a quick round on the mailing list about this as well [19:40] dkessel, want to send some kind of an email with a plan how we would go forward with this to the -devel mailing list? [19:40] personally I'm still the same as I was last time this was brought up - but let's see what we get from the rest of team [19:40] dkessel, if you want, i can help you write that [19:41] knome: i can make a draft and check that with you before sending [19:41] dkessel: Are you using a Pi with Xubuntu actually ? [19:41] ok, great [19:41] #action dkessel to draft a mail about pi image testing for 16.10, knome to review [19:41] ACTION: dkessel to draft a mail about pi image testing for 16.10, knome to review [19:41] #link https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/ [19:42] note that xubuntu is already on that list with "no" on "community support" [19:42] anything else on this subject? [19:43] ok, moving on [19:43] #topic New Project Lead (ochosi/knome) [19:44] since we don't have ochosi around, let's not start the process quite yet, but feel free to discuss! [19:44] (mostly team i guess...) [19:45] nothing? ok, let's continue via email [19:45] #topic Schedule next meeting [19:45] I'm pretty certain everyone is fine with the council idea. [19:45] it's ochosi's turn! lucky winner! [19:45] #action ochosi to schedule next meeting [19:45] ACTION: ochosi to schedule next meeting [19:46] pleia2, want to say something to get your name on the nicks list? [19:46] I'll follow up in email re leader/council ;) [19:46] hooray! [19:46] #endmeeting [19:46] Meeting ended Mon May 2 19:46:22 2016 UTC. [19:46] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-05-02-19.30.moin.txt [19:46] thanks everybody [19:46] fast meeting today :P [19:46] thanks knome [19:46] np as always [19:46] comes from the spine already [19:46] :) [19:47] Really fast meeting ^^ [19:47] and minutes are up [19:47] and hooray, i said more lines than the rest combined [19:47] way to go me [19:48] :) [19:48] Would the meeting chair go to the council or stick with project leads? I think I said before, but could talk to kcouncil and see if they have any input too. [19:48] imo, the meeting chair could stay with team leaders [19:48] I think we should carry on as we already do [19:48] it spreads the work more evenly [19:49] which is always a good idea [19:49] i don't want the council to be another one of those "i don't want to apply because it means $toomuchwork" [19:49] because there definitely are such [19:49] mmm [19:50] Have to make sure and keep the members responsive too. [19:50] yes [19:51] that said - it'd be nice to see team responsive to mails for team too ;) [19:51] just map me xpl and i';ll get you lot to do the work :-) [19:51] ha ha [19:52] I think generally people are responsive to emails. [19:52] yes [19:53] except a few people, who probably shouldn't be on the team *cough* [19:53] that's me :) [19:53] AuroraAvenue, you aren't on the team :P [19:53] so we can't kick you out either! [19:53] * AuroraAvenue thinks the same still applies. [19:54] bye o/ 'kick me' [19:56] Could ping the two, see if they're still alive and if they actually want to stick on and plan to do anything. [19:56] :-) [19:56] * flocculant wonders which two [19:57] Jackson, Mica. [19:57] yes [19:57] just wondering if the same two :) [19:57] Also maybe that Pasi guy, he's been in there a loooong time. [19:58] and he's bad man as well [19:58] yes indeed [20:07] akxwi-dave [20:08] oups [20:15] evening everyone [20:15] sorry for arriving late :( [20:15] just came home [20:15] Unit193: when do i read that in u-devel? [20:17] hi ochosi ;) [20:18] you want this ? http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-05-02-19.30.moin.txt ? [20:18] hi nairwolf [20:18] i meanwhile skimmed the backlog [20:18] so it's fine ;) [20:18] but thanks [20:19] ochosi: In this handy paste I doctored, I mean provided: https://paste.unit193.net/?dfe0377c27ee7099#NakKAUt8N6u/hvgkv9UyYmroc9iUAroh7nawAsb9Wkg= [20:20] I'm just doing a daily testing on real hardware. [20:20] Have you ever seen this message "ubi-console-setup crashed" ? [20:21] ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing ? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken [20:21] I've chosen the option "erase disk and install" [20:23] Oh, it's this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1577540 [20:23] Launchpad bug 1577540 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-console-setup failing on yakkety images" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:24] How can I have access to /var/log/syslog if I'm just starting a new installation. Where is syslog in this case ? [20:24] In the old OS installed ? === Logan_ is now known as Logan [21:35] good night