| === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| sgclark | yofel: repos updated, thanks for the script. Running the ci update script now ( not that it matters without a yakkety docker image). | 08:04 |
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| * sgclark goes to bed | 08:04 | |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:16 |
| yofel | o/ | 11:17 |
| clivejo | howdy | 11:19 |
| BluesKaj | hey yofel, clivejo | 11:20 |
| yofel | did we ever make the packaging notepad into a proper document? | 11:27 |
| * yofel started out crossing out references to alioth | 11:27 | |
| yofel | s/out// | 11:27 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: yofel no but I was looking at that last night, reading through it | 11:31 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: I thought it was good, and could be brought into both a document, and some training slides for Kubuntu Dojo | 11:31 |
| yofel | @Sick_Rimmit: ok, I'm crossing out stuff that's obsolete, and I added a small section on gitconfig setup | 11:32 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: Yes please | 11:32 |
| yofel | for the new launchpad paths | 11:32 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: if you update it | 11:32 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: perhaps ask the others to look over it | 11:32 |
| yofel | ack | 11:32 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: I would be happy to start work on docs and slides from Monday next week | 11:33 |
| yofel | ok, updated what I wanted. | 11:39 |
| yofel | acutally, that reminds me... | 11:39 |
| yofel | @ovidiuflorin / ovidiu-florin: just as a reminder: Now that we're on LP you have commit access to the repositories ;) | 11:41 |
| yofel | As does Rick for that matter, as all kubuntu members do | 11:43 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: Ooo that is going to be really helpful | 11:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: so we're completely switched back to LP now? | 11:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: you don't have to give both nicks | 11:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | for me, at least, it's the same | 11:45 |
| yofel | mostly. The main repositories are moved, anything extra can be done as needed (calligra, pkg-kde-tools, etc.) | 11:46 |
| yofel | ah ok | 11:46 |
| yofel | but write target is Lauchpad now | 11:46 |
| telegram | <@Sick_Rimmit>: I would like to ask some questions on that, but am at work at present, maybe later | 11:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | if you give with @ then IRC and telegram starts screaming at me | 11:46 |
| yofel | :D | 11:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'd like to make a diagram of the workflow | 11:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | and put it on the contribute page of our site | 11:47 |
| yofel | that would be helpful, the only thing that's changed is that you can substitute git.debian.org with git.launchpad.net in all places | 11:47 |
| yofel | other than that the workflow stays until everything is running again | 11:48 |
| soee | hiho | 11:48 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: we still don't have a diagram with the current workflow | 11:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | hell, I still don't understand the current workflow | 11:49 |
| yofel | we have the thing that you once started.. | 11:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | I know.... | 11:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | but it's more like a quick tips than an actual guide for noobs | 11:50 |
| yofel | let me put a reminder in my calendar to draw something on paper tomorrow if I can find the time | 11:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | paper is great | 11:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you | 11:50 |
| yofel | *blink* | 11:53 |
| yofel | valorie: happy birthday! | 11:53 |
| * yofel deleted oxygen-icons5 from yakkety staging-frameworks (has an epoch) | 12:14 | |
| clivejo | yofel: have you made any changes to the KA scripts for LP? | 12:39 |
| yofel | not yet | 12:39 |
| clivejo | mind if I try? | 12:40 |
| sitter | maxyz: are you sure that xephyr hack in frameworks actually works? the way I see it after `xvfb-run ... Xephyr` $! would be the one of xvfb-run and killing that leaves Xephyr fairly uninterested | 12:51 |
| yofel | clivejo: go ahead | 12:57 |
| sitter | maxyz: terminating the pgroup instead of just the lead process seems to do the trick http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/frameworks/kconfig.git/commit/?h=Neon/unstable-fix-test-kill&id=89d373e1f7b6655d52a737a32a513f459302554f alternatively we could pgrep -P all children and term all of them, which probably is slightly more accurate than going by pgroup | 13:05 |
| sitter | maxyz: -9 also might be handy, I am currently booting them manually and every once in a while they go defunct instead of actually terminating | 13:13 |
| hakermania | hola. I want to take a look on the source code of the timeout counter widget. which package should I choose? https://www.kde.org/info/plasma-5.5.0.php | 13:19 |
| clivejo | time out widget? | 13:20 |
| hakermania | clivejo, yeah, it's called timer basically | 13:21 |
| clivejo | !info plasma-widgets-addons xenial | 13:24 |
| ubottu | plasma-widgets-addons (source: kdeplasma-addons): additional widgets for Plasma 5. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 287 kB, installed size 1500 kB | 13:24 |
| clivejo | I think its in there | 13:25 |
| clivejo | kdeplasma-addons-5.5.0 | 13:25 |
| clivejo | installed into /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.timer/ | 13:26 |
| clivejo | yofel: ping | 13:35 |
| yofel | hm? | 13:35 |
| clivejo | bump-build-dep-versions | 13:35 |
| clivejo | where does it get its info? | 13:36 |
| yofel | no idea | 13:36 |
| yofel | I didn't write that | 13:36 |
| yofel | actually, IIRC some code there is broken | 13:36 |
| clivejo | I can get it to bump the plasma versions | 13:36 |
| clivejo | but not the frameworks | 13:37 |
| yofel | something tries to make bundled version files without allowing to manually set the version, while the version files should be by-component | 13:37 |
| yofel | I never really looked at that in depth | 13:37 |
| clivejo | grrr | 13:37 |
| clivejo | gbp:error: 'debuild -i -I -S -sa -nc' failed: it exited with 29 | 13:37 |
| sitter | maxyz: nevermind, killing the pgroup is equally ineffective -.- | 13:43 |
| clivejo | yofel: | 13:46 |
| clivejo | git does not match archive | 13:46 |
| clivejo | missing lines: bluedevil (4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium | 13:46 |
| clivejo | -- Philip Muškovac <yofel@kubuntu.org> Thu, 14 Apr 2016 13:31:17 -0700 | 13:46 |
| yofel | I guess the branches are still broken | 13:46 |
| clivejo | but thats whats in the archive - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil/4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 | 13:47 |
| yofel | yes, and what does the branch say? | 13:47 |
| clivejo | https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/bluedevil/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive | 13:48 |
| clivejo | ah the time | 13:48 |
| clivejo | 14:24:36 -0700 | 13:48 |
| yofel | aaah right | 13:48 |
| clivejo | so change the time in the branch | 13:48 |
| yofel | meh, that looks like fallout from the time when shadeslayer__ wasn't able to push his upload | 13:48 |
| clivejo | to match the archive | 13:49 |
| yofel | right, please do that | 13:49 |
| yofel | will probably happen in a bunch of other repositories as well | 13:49 |
| * clivejo :( | 13:49 | |
| clivejo | should I fix the xenial branch too? | 13:54 |
| clivejo | ah | 13:56 |
| clivejo | the official version of FW is 5.12.0 ? | 13:56 |
| clivejo | not 5.12? | 13:56 |
| yofel | yes | 13:57 |
| yofel | you probably mean 5.21 though | 13:57 |
| clivejo | yeah, stupid dyslexic brain | 13:57 |
| yofel | ^^ | 13:58 |
| clivejo | my brain messes up the order of numbers | 13:58 |
| yofel | fixing xenial is probably not needed | 14:00 |
| clivejo | ok | 14:00 |
| yofel | the branches don't match the packages exactly, but we won't be doing anything but single-package SRUs, and for those that doesn't matter | 14:00 |
| clivejo | theres a versions.json in KA config/ folder | 14:00 |
| clivejo | the frameworks was missing a .0 | 14:01 |
| yofel | you can omit the .0 in the places where it's used for the build-deps, just not wherever the changelog is touched | 14:03 |
| clivejo | nope, the script is still not bumping the frameworks | 14:06 |
| clivejo | https://paste.kde.org/p1tnlnwh4 | 14:06 |
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| clivejo | its bumping the plasma | 14:07 |
| clivejo | but not the FW | 14:07 |
| yofel | oh, for plasma? | 14:08 |
| yofel | IIRC we intentionally seperated that | 14:08 |
| yofel | plasma only bumps internal plasma deps | 14:08 |
| yofel | we might want to bump frameworks as well | 14:09 |
| clivejo | so it doesnt bump frameworks? | 14:09 |
| yofel | but thanks to the cyclic deps we had last release we had to remove that | 14:09 |
| clivejo | I thought it was supposed to bump both | 14:09 |
| yofel | it was originally, but that made stuff unbuildable, so it was removed | 14:10 |
| hakermania | clivejo, thanks. I'm trying to read this: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma5/QML2/GettingStarted but it's missing some parts (!! FixMe !!) | 14:10 |
| yofel | technically we want that | 14:10 |
| yofel | but then each component still needs its own version file so we control what gets updated | 14:10 |
| clivejo | maybe staging should take an addition parameter, ie what bump we need? | 14:11 |
| yofel | because "everything" does not work | 14:11 |
| yofel | that's probably better kept in a config file, but something like that | 14:11 |
| hakermania | can somebody guide me a bit? I've created the basic folder structure and metadata.desktop, main.qml, CMakeLists.txt | 14:11 |
| clivejo | hakermania: this is probably better asked in #kde-devel ? | 14:12 |
| hakermania | clivejo, excellent | 14:12 |
| clivejo | or maybe #plasma | 14:13 |
| clivejo | we tend to talk about bringing KDE software into Ubuntu here | 14:14 |
| clivejo | eakkk | 14:15 |
| clivejo | script crashed and burned! | 14:15 |
| clivejo | fatal: remote error: Repository '~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover' not found. | 14:16 |
| yofel | oh, that thing. IIRC we can drop all the special handling for that | 14:16 |
| clivejo | just call it plasma-discover? | 14:16 |
| clivejo | how do you find stuff on LP git | 14:17 |
| yofel | yes, grep for that in the automation code, that's rewritten in 2 scripts and a couple config files I belive | 14:17 |
| clivejo | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git | 14:17 |
| clivejo | thats the list of packages | 14:17 |
| clivejo | but is there no search? | 14:17 |
| yofel | doesn't look like it | 14:18 |
| * clivejo rolls eyes | 14:19 | |
| clivejo | kubuntu-automation/upstream-names.json | 14:20 |
| clivejo | kubuntu-automation/package-name-list | 14:20 |
| clivejo | kubuntu-automation/ubuntu-archive-upload | 14:20 |
| clivejo | which upstream is it talking about?! | 14:21 |
| yofel | depends on the context? | 14:22 |
| clivejo | LOL there is none! | 14:23 |
| clivejo | upstream-names.json | 14:23 |
| yofel | ah, kde | 14:23 |
| clivejo | so that entry is correct | 14:24 |
| clivejo | "plasma-discover": "discover", | 14:24 |
| clivejo | thats the path it uses for the actual source | 14:24 |
| clivejo | can I put a comment in that file? | 14:24 |
| yofel | wait | 14:24 |
| yofel | didn't they fix that? | 14:24 |
| yofel | no they didn't :( | 14:25 |
| clivejo | nope, still called discover-5.6.3.tar.xz | 14:25 |
| yofel | then the entry in that file is correct | 14:26 |
| yofel | but the special casing code for the repo naming in the scripts not | 14:26 |
| clivejo | # Mapping for names of packages in Kubuntu and the related source code tarballs on KDE download site | 14:27 |
| clivejo | it ok to add that at the top of upstream-names.json ? | 14:28 |
| yofel | no, JSON has no comment syntax | 14:28 |
| yofel | you could add a "comment" entry with that though | 14:28 |
| yofel | oh, urgh | 14:30 |
| clivejo | nevermind | 14:30 |
| clivejo | just bit confusing for newbies | 14:30 |
| clivejo | so its this line | 14:31 |
| clivejo | "discover": "plasma-discover", | 14:31 |
| clivejo | in package-name-list | 14:31 |
| yofel | I wonder if we shouldn't just fix the repository name | 14:31 |
| clivejo | it is | 14:32 |
| clivejo | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-discover | 14:32 |
| yofel | no, usually our repos are named after the upstream source | 14:32 |
| clivejo | oh | 14:32 |
| yofel | otherwise 'baloo' would be baloo-kf5 | 14:32 |
| yofel | there's 2 exceptions to that rule: kde4libs and plasma-discover (see the code in ubuntu-archive-upload) | 14:33 |
| clivejo | just rename the LP git repo | 14:33 |
| clivejo | might be best solution? | 14:33 |
| yofel | in the long run, yes, but that'll break the CI as well, so lets talk to sgclark about that first | 14:34 |
| clivejo | LOL | 14:34 |
| clivejo | never going to get plasma staged at this rate! | 14:35 |
| yofel | why are you trying to stage plasma anyway? It's not like it'll actually build | 14:35 |
| clivejo | why not? | 14:35 |
| yofel | supposedly requires Qt 5.6 | 14:36 |
| clivejo | oh, didnt know that | 14:36 |
| clivejo | does FW 5.21 not need it? | 14:37 |
| yofel | I'm not 100% sure, but that's what people keep screaming all the time | 14:37 |
| yofel | OTOH, stage it and we'll know | 14:38 |
| soee | Plasna 5.6 does not require QT 5.6 | 14:38 |
| clivejo | who is responsible for packaging QT? https://launchpad.net/qt ? | 14:38 |
| soee | if this is what you are talking abot :) | 14:38 |
| yofel | but for now you'll probaly have to take the repo name code from ubuntu-archive-upload and put it into staging-upload | 14:38 |
| yofel | soee: ok thanks, then I'm misinformed | 14:39 |
| soee | yofel: Neon also ships with QT 5.5 | 14:39 |
| soee | and last days Jonathan created ppa to test QT 5.6 builds for Neon | 14:39 |
| yofel | clivejo: btw... thanks for finding and fixing all the workflow bugs :P | 14:42 |
| clivejo | I wish I could say my pleasure! | 14:42 |
| clivejo | but getting rather annoying now :P | 14:42 |
| clivejo | but on the plus side I have a new super key | 14:43 |
| yofel | a big red one? >.> | 14:43 |
| clivejo | and can sign packages off as a kubuntu team member | 14:43 |
| clivejo | it took AGES to generate! | 14:43 |
| clivejo | so it must be good! | 14:43 |
| clivejo | how do I upgrade to yakkety? | 14:45 |
| * clivejo memory is pathetic | 14:45 | |
| yofel | edit your sources.list | 14:46 |
| clivejo | no gui for it? | 14:46 |
| * clivejo thinks yofel should code a gui for packaging | 14:47 | |
| clivejo | drag and drop | 14:47 |
| yofel | uh, you can edit it with software properties I believe, but you're probably best of using search and replace / sed at this point | 14:48 |
| yofel | and when it comes to a packaging GUI.. | 14:50 |
| clivejo | yofel: who normally packages QT? | 14:50 |
| yofel | there is something that can show a GUI for the debian metadata files, but it was horrible when I last tried it at debconf | 14:50 |
| yofel | clivejo: debian-qt-kde, i.e. Mirv_ and mitya57_ mostly I believe. It's WIP (5.6.0 is stuck in experimental because "too buggy") | 14:51 |
| clivejo | eakk | 14:51 |
| clivejo | is KCI fixed now? | 14:52 |
| clivejo | using LP branches? | 14:52 |
| yofel | AFAIK yes, but it has no triggers, so all it does are daily builds | 14:52 |
| clivejo | seems to be stuck on mgmt_docker | 14:53 |
| yofel | oh right, there are no docker images for yakkety | 14:54 |
| yofel | scarlett said something like that | 14:54 |
| clivejo | ah | 14:54 |
| clivejo | doesnt is auto generate the image? | 14:54 |
| clivejo | like once a day? | 14:54 |
| yofel | docker needs a base image to build from, and there is none | 14:54 |
| clivejo | does plasma 5.6 need a min FW version? | 15:05 |
| soee | clivejo: look and #plasma what Martin wrote | 15:15 |
| soee | *at | 15:16 |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| clivejo | ok, I removed discover from the package list and re-run | 15:20 |
| clivejo | its completed with 4 errors | 15:21 |
| clivejo | 2 out of sync | 15:21 |
| clivejo | and 2 libksysguard: build was interrupted | 15:21 |
| clivejo | what does build was interrupted mean? | 15:21 |
| yofel | "something went wrong, please look at it yourself" | 15:21 |
| yofel | ah no, that's a packagae build failure | 15:22 |
| yofel | i.e. patch not applying or so | 15:22 |
| clivejo | ah | 15:22 |
| clivejo | you patched libksysguard in 5.5 ? | 15:22 |
| clivejo | with 5.6 patch | 15:22 |
| yofel | maybe? | 15:22 |
| yofel | I don't remember | 15:23 |
| clivejo | does staging merge in kubuntu_unstable? | 15:24 |
| yofel | it should | 15:24 |
| yofel | you might want to make sure that xenial_archive is properly merged though | 15:24 |
| yofel | (it wasn't for oxygen-icons5 when I looked at that earlier) | 15:25 |
| clivejo | so if I wanted to work on fixing these, I should commit to kubuntu_unstable? | 15:25 |
| yofel | not if you work in staging, unstable is for the CI | 15:26 |
| clivejo | where could I put my changes? | 15:26 |
| yofel | _archive | 15:27 |
| yofel | as usual | 15:27 |
| clivejo | as UNRELEASED? | 15:27 |
| yofel | right | 15:27 |
| yofel | as usual | 15:27 |
| yofel | the script automatically does that anyway | 15:27 |
| clivejo | but if I have 5.6.3 in there wont it get messed up next time staging script is run? | 15:28 |
| clivejo | Now running lintian... | 15:29 |
| clivejo | E: user-manager changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file yakkety | 15:29 |
| clivejo | W: user-manager source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.9.6 (current is 3.9.7) | 15:29 |
| yofel | you cannot re-run the script on an existing repository anyway | 15:30 |
| yofel | if you bumped to 5.6.3 once, then that's it. If you want to retry delete all your local work and start fresh | 15:31 |
| yofel | *if* you did not push | 15:31 |
| clivejo | I havent pushed | 15:31 |
| yofel | if you did push then staging-upload may not be run again | 15:31 |
| clivejo | or uploaded to LP | 15:31 |
| clivejo | there are a lot of FW build deps Id like to bump and things to change | 15:32 |
| yofel | LP we can just wipe clean if something happens, git... is a bit trickier | 15:32 |
| clivejo | maybe bump the standards too | 15:32 |
| yofel | feel free to revert the bump seperation | 15:32 |
| yofel | just make sure that e.g. no deps on any application stuff gets bumped in plasma | 15:32 |
| clivejo | Ill try fixing these out of syncs errors | 15:33 |
| clivejo | what would you advise doing? push what Ive done and work through them manually? or trash it all and wait until KCI is fixed up ? | 15:35 |
| yofel | push it if you're happy with the overall changes. The version changing is something I would rather fix before that | 15:37 |
| yofel | the out of sync things you can push after you fix them though, then it won't happen again next time | 15:38 |
| yofel | we'll have to re-upload everything at some point anyway when the VCS info in the repositories is fixed | 15:38 |
| clivejo | what branch does the staging script merge in? | 15:39 |
| yofel | it should merge everything into the target, i.e. _archive | 15:39 |
| clivejo | before Id make these changes to kubuntu_unstable | 15:39 |
| clivejo | CI would do its magic and the staging script merged in the fixes | 15:40 |
| yofel | well, you can still do that | 15:40 |
| clivejo | but with CI out of the picture at the moment, its not doing that "magic" | 15:40 |
| yofel | you just won't get an immediate build from the CI | 15:40 |
| yofel | you should be able to still manually trigger builds though | 15:41 |
| yofel | just not for yakkety | 15:41 |
| clivejo | its yakkety Im working on | 15:41 |
| yofel | then you're stuck with the non-ci wokflow for now | 15:41 |
| clivejo | ok maybe its best to push and upload what Ive done | 15:41 |
| clivejo | and do it manually | 15:42 |
| clivejo | at least Ill get buildlogs and reports from LP to aid in fixing | 15:42 |
| yofel | that's what the non-ci workflow is.. | 15:42 |
| yofel | just the initial script run should work correctly in that case | 15:43 |
| yofel | (i.e. version bumps ...) | 15:43 |
| * clivejo wasn’t a packager in those olden days! | 15:43 | |
| yofel | we gave people funny ideas in #plasma... | 15:44 |
| clivejo | yofel: are you planning to update the VCS fields via a script? | 15:46 |
| clivejo | to point to LP | 15:46 |
| yofel | yes, that's just stuck at LP telling me nonsense (see #launchpad) | 15:46 |
| yofel | I guess I'll have to use our fixed lists | 15:46 |
| clivejo | eak | 15:47 |
| yofel | I found another reason why we want a namepace for the git branches | 16:00 |
| yofel | LP supports merge requests for project git repositories, but not for personal ones | 16:00 |
| yofel | for whatever reason | 16:00 |
| clivejo | can we "control" the LP commits? | 16:03 |
| yofel | as in? | 16:04 |
| clivejo | like review commits before they go in? | 16:04 |
| yofel | well, anyone who's a member of kubuntu-packagers in some way has direct commit access | 16:04 |
| yofel | everyone else has to do merge requests | 16:04 |
| apol | can somebody look into this bug report? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362612 | 16:05 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 362612 in discover "problems to Install evolution over the plasma discover" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] | 16:05 |
| yofel | o.O | 16:05 |
| yofel | looks like ovidiu-florin had another power outage | 16:07 |
| clivejo | apt install evolution doesnt ask me to remove anything | 16:07 |
| yofel | installing it though discover didn't even ask me anything | 16:08 |
| yofel | other than my PW | 16:08 |
| clivejo | its wanting to install gnome components though | 16:08 |
| yofel | that's normal | 16:09 |
| clivejo | maybe they remove network manager? | 16:09 |
| yofel | they don't, otherwise apt would tell you | 16:10 |
| clivejo | hummm | 16:10 |
| clivejo | cant recreate that bug then | 16:10 |
| yofel | me neither | 16:11 |
| yofel | if he did proceed with the installation, then his history.log might tell something, otherwise I'm clueless | 16:12 |
| yofel | funny enough, discover now shows me the broken text on the main page | 16:12 |
| yofel | it didn't do that a while ago | 16:12 |
| clivejo | told ya :P | 16:13 |
| yofel | I wonder if we should ship gnome software next release.. | 16:14 |
| yofel | hm, LP can create snappy packages from git branches | 16:14 |
| yofel | I really need to start looking at that thing | 16:14 |
| yofel | apol: so, we can't reproduce that... and I'm not really sure why discover would behave different from synaptic either | 16:15 |
| yofel | bbl | 16:16 |
| clivejo | maybe he clicked on the uninstall radio button in Discover? | 16:17 |
| clivejo | in the addons section | 16:18 |
| clivejo | hi acheron88 | 16:24 |
| acheron88 | hi clivejo :) | 16:25 |
| acheron88 | anything to test? it's all a bit 'stable' at the moment | 16:25 |
| * clivejo is really really getting very annoyed with Kontact | 16:26 | |
| acheron88 | did a clean install of 16.04 on this machine to make it nice and fresh | 16:26 |
| clivejo | Im sure its mysql5.7 related | 16:26 |
| clivejo | was working fine before they released that | 16:27 |
| acheron88 | I don't use kontact. In fact I avoid most of the KDE PIM, as I never got on with it | 16:27 |
| clivejo | I use it a lot | 16:27 |
| clivejo | and this is really bugging me now | 16:27 |
| clivejo | 5 minutes its been trying to open this email | 16:27 |
| acheron88 | yes, things like akonadi and mysql backend for PIM used to be a complete PITA | 16:28 |
| acheron88 | so I got used to using stansalone apps for most of it | 16:28 |
| clivejo | good idea | 16:28 |
| * clivejo opens gmail on phone | 16:28 | |
| acheron88 | only thing from PIM I use is akregator, and that will run with akonadi disabled. | 16:29 |
| clivejo | there we go, done and dusted on phone and Kontact is still thinking about it | 16:30 |
| acheron88 | thunderbird is getting long in the tooth, but still works great here | 16:30 |
| acheron88 | and I can tar.gz my TB profile if I need to move to a new machine, and it just works on the new one. | 16:31 |
| acheron88 | even a windoze one. (forgive me) | 16:31 |
| acheron88 | I love kde/kubuntu, but not PIM | 16:32 |
| sgclark | morning | 16:36 |
| sgclark | yofel: I tried my old key and still cannot access kci.pangea.pub any luck for you? | 16:38 |
| sgclark | clivejo: I have had to manually merge everything. | 16:39 |
| sgclark | be happy you did not pick applications.. | 16:39 |
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| sgclark | umm what does the git clone all actually do? | 17:43 |
| clivejo | the KA script? | 17:47 |
| sgclark | yeah | 17:47 |
| sgclark | it barfs on me. but I think I thought it was something it is not | 17:47 |
| sgclark | it is grabbing both sources I see now | 17:47 |
| clivejo | you can pass it the component | 17:47 |
| clivejo | like to clone all apps | 17:48 |
| sgclark | but well it fails so it grabs nothing | 17:48 |
| clivejo | goes and grabs all the app git | 17:48 |
| clivejo | has it been updated to use the correct git | 17:48 |
| sgclark | ./git-clone-all -t ../yakkety-frameworks/ -r frameworks -d yakkety | 17:48 |
| sgclark | File "/home/ftpubuntu/stable/frameworks/5.21.0/" not found. | 17:49 |
| sgclark | Template url to clone: git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/%s | 17:49 |
| clivejo | does the -t path exist | 17:49 |
| sgclark | uh yes | 17:49 |
| sgclark | where is it getting that ftpubuntu junk? | 17:49 |
| clivejo | try it with like "~/yakkety-frameworks | 17:50 |
| sgclark | that is depot | 17:50 |
| sgclark | same failure | 17:50 |
| sgclark | why is it going to depot? I do not understand | 17:51 |
| sgclark | oh well lost interest again. I will hack up a shell script | 17:51 |
| clivejo | it was working for me | 17:51 |
| sgclark | running ci update again. hope to fix at least mergers | 17:51 |
| clivejo | sgclark: did you pull KA? | 17:52 |
| sgclark | I can't do anything about docker until I get access to server or sitter decided to talk to me | 17:52 |
| sgclark | clivejo: yeah got your changes | 17:52 |
| clivejo | you had the login set as yourself# | 17:53 |
| sgclark | wut? | 17:53 |
| sgclark | I did not see a flag for login | 17:53 |
| clivejo | "git-ssh-kubuntu":"git+ssh://sgclark-guest@git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/%s/%s.git" | 17:54 |
| clivejo | it uses you local environment to decide | 17:54 |
| yofel | sgclark: are you trying to login as 'ubuntu' to kci? | 17:55 |
| sgclark | oh perhaps I did that on accident... I had terrible times with the script deciding for me | 17:55 |
| sgclark | sigh | 17:55 |
| yofel | there's 4 of your keys in that account | 17:55 |
| sgclark | all I am trying to do is use git-clone-all to for what I thought was a simple cloning of all repos | 17:55 |
| yofel | that's what it is supposed to do.. | 17:56 |
| sgclark | oh | 17:56 |
| sgclark | yofel I think we are talking of different things | 17:56 |
| yofel | just needs an URI fix for launchpad | 17:56 |
| yofel | sgclark: I was originally talking about kci | 17:56 |
| yofel | where I can login fine | 17:56 |
| sgclark | I think it was probably trying to use scarlett | 17:57 |
| sgclark | I am to use ubuntu@kci? | 17:57 |
| yofel | I have this in my ssh config (as I always forget that too): | 17:57 |
| yofel | Host kci | 17:57 |
| yofel | User ubuntu | 17:57 |
| yofel | HostName 54.252.111.19 | 17:57 |
| sgclark | thank you | 17:58 |
| sgclark | I am in thanks yofel | 17:59 |
| yofel | yw | 18:00 |
| yofel | now lets see if I can upload oxygen-icons5 | 18:00 |
| soee | :) | 18:00 |
| sgclark | I was told to add epoch. I see that was wrong | 18:01 |
| yofel | sgclark: that turned out to not have been an epoch issue, but an epoch issue caused by you dropping our entire backwards compatibility diff | 18:01 |
| yofel | which - in theory - is the right thing to do | 18:01 |
| sgclark | uh I did what? | 18:01 |
| yofel | we just didn't get around to fixing everything else yet | 18:01 |
| yofel | sgclark: I had to merge kubuntu_xenial_archive into kubuntu_yakkety_archive as all our xenial changes were missing | 18:02 |
| yofel | i.e. the transitional package | 18:02 |
| sgclark | oh yes I have to do that for all frameworks | 18:02 |
| sgclark | as I clearly stated yesterday I have to do all merges manually | 18:03 |
| sgclark | but after 200 apps and lack of sleep I did not yet do frameworks | 18:03 |
| sgclark | doing that today but was trying to fix ci | 18:03 |
| * sgclark gives up | 18:03 | |
| yofel | ah ok, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were already done with frameworks | 18:03 |
| sgclark | nope | 18:04 |
| sgclark | you will see red and orange | 18:04 |
| sgclark | not donw | 18:04 |
| yofel | "done with merging" I meant | 18:04 |
| sgclark | only so many hours in the day | 18:04 |
| sgclark | nope | 18:04 |
| sgclark | anyway I am hoping after my update merges will be working on ci | 18:05 |
| yofel | btw. why did you add another changelog for the kde-l10n packages? Now we have ubuntu2 in xenial unapproved and ubuntu1 in yakkety, which isn't allowed | 18:05 |
| sgclark | damn | 18:05 |
| yofel | sgclark: let me fix kde-l10n, you work on kci | 18:06 |
| sgclark | yes I had to. the whole pile got rejected as in archive with diff content | 18:06 |
| sgclark | no | 18:06 |
| yofel | aaah | 18:06 |
| sgclark | all that had to be done is run 2 with yakkety | 18:06 |
| sgclark | simple fix can do that | 18:06 |
| yofel | that would work too | 18:06 |
| clivejo | sgclark: I will help with frameworks, but you said you had it done? | 18:07 |
| yofel | next time, use 1.1 for xenial, but as long as the versions are at least equal the sru team should be ~ok with it | 18:07 |
| sgclark | ok | 18:08 |
| clivejo | yofel: can I clear out the plasma staging PPA? | 18:09 |
| yofel | feel free to (kubuntu-dev-tools has a script for that) | 18:09 |
| sgclark | well one good thing out of this mess is we got debian merges done. heh | 18:10 |
| clivejo | yofel: cant I just use the web UI? | 18:11 |
| sick_rimmit | Hiya | 18:12 |
| yofel | if you enjoy a lot of clicking... sure | 18:12 |
| clivejo | is there a manual or instructions for dev-tools | 18:22 |
| clivejo | yofel: ./klearppa ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ? | 18:26 |
| clivejo | maybe --force-yes | 18:28 |
| clivejo | or do I have to do each release separately? | 18:28 |
| clivejo | hi sick_rimmit | 18:30 |
| clivejo | nvm | 18:32 |
| yofel | you can do all of them, and --force-yes you want | 18:34 |
| clivejo | done | 18:37 |
| clivejo | Im gonna try uploading what Ive done | 18:38 |
| clivejo | they probably fail due to deps on frameworks 5.21, but at least Ill see that in the build logs | 18:39 |
| clivejo | yofel: is the LP URL still wrong? | 18:58 |
| clivejo | for clone-all ? | 18:59 |
| yofel | clivejo: dunno, was I supposed to do something? | 19:30 |
| clivejo | it was working | 19:32 |
| clivejo | but now its not :( | 19:32 |
| ahoneybun | happy birthday valorie! | 19:43 |
| renee77 | hello | 19:45 |
| ahoneybun | heyo renee77 | 19:45 |
| sick_rimmit | hi renee77 | 19:45 |
| sick_rimmit | o/ | 19:45 |
| renee77 | does someone have time for two c++ questions? | 19:46 |
| renee77 | :D | 19:46 |
| sick_rimmit | How you getting along | 19:46 |
| sick_rimmit | Sure | 19:46 |
| sick_rimmit | See if I can help | 19:46 |
| renee77 | are arrays still used? | 19:46 |
| sick_rimmit | Yes | 19:46 |
| renee77 | ok so not only to communicate with older programms? | 19:46 |
| sick_rimmit | No | 19:46 |
| sick_rimmit | Of course you have Objects and Properties and in OOP context that may be better | 19:47 |
| sick_rimmit | but for functional programming arrays are still completely valid and useful | 19:47 |
| renee77 | ahh I was told first but couldnt find any proof | 19:47 |
| renee77 | and what format for constants is used with CAPITALS? or without? | 19:48 |
| renee77 | I am practising skills now trying to write assisting tool for making choices for install of something | 19:50 |
| sick_rimmit | Ah not Syntax questions, can't do those safely without reference | 19:50 |
| renee77 | lol | 19:50 |
| clivejo | will someone on docs team please look at this - https://trello.com/c/uvJp5i9t | 19:51 |
| renee77 | can I ask one last one clive? | 19:51 |
| clivejo | dont ask to ask! | 19:52 |
| renee77 | ok thank you wasnt sure | 19:52 |
| renee77 | srry | 19:52 |
| clivejo | LOL | 19:52 |
| clivejo | ask away | 19:52 |
| sick_rimmit | I am no expert at all, | 19:52 |
| renee77 | would you use an array or an vector to list choices? | 19:52 |
| sick_rimmit | total amateur | 19:52 |
| renee77 | for me you are ;-) | 19:52 |
| renee77 | not to list | 19:52 |
| sick_rimmit | I would use an array, or and object property | 19:53 |
| clivejo | I dont know about coding | 19:53 |
| sick_rimmit | My first choice would be an array, as I am familiar with this | 19:53 |
| renee77 | ok I made a vector and used index to point at the correct value | 19:54 |
| soee | renee77: if you have any question regarding some programming language you can always find help on related chammels like #c++ #javascript etc etc | 19:54 |
| soee | *channels | 19:54 |
| telegram | <@ovidiuflorin>: renee77 use an iterator | 19:55 |
| renee77 | nice thank you | 19:55 |
| renee77 | what is an iterator? | 19:55 |
| sick_rimmit | Yes soee is right, the #c++ channel would get you a def answer | 19:55 |
| renee77 | not here in code you mean srry | 19:55 |
| telegram | <@ovidiuflorin>: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/vector/vector/begin/ | 19:55 |
| renee77 | still blondie | 19:55 |
| telegram | <@ovidiuflorin>: are your options limited? | 19:56 |
| renee77 | I use that site :) | 19:56 |
| renee77 | depends | 19:56 |
| renee77 | they are limited but not known | 19:57 |
| courageux | Are there any plans to bring plasma 5.6 to kubuntu 16.04? | 19:57 |
| renee77 | Experimenting with a tool to assist in installing software | 19:57 |
| telegram | <@ovidiuflorin>: clivejo sais no | 19:58 |
| telegram | <@ovidiuflorin>: just kidding | 19:58 |
| renee77 | but thank you all I will go to #c++ channel | 19:59 |
| sick_rimmit | OK, nice | 19:59 |
| renee77 | Is there something I can assist with for you? | 19:59 |
| sgclark | courageux: eventually. we need to get it in yakkety first. | 20:00 |
| sgclark | well I know why yakkety docker image is failing | 20:01 |
| sick_rimmit | renee77: Just keep hanging around, it's good to have you here | 20:01 |
| sgclark | because ubuntu has not even created a base.. | 20:01 |
| renee77 | thank you wasnt sure now I know and I will :) | 20:01 |
| yofel | ok, I see why git-clone-all doesn't work | 20:04 |
| clivejo | ?? | 20:04 |
| yofel | hm, more than one reason | 20:05 |
| soee | bleh, some trolls spamming #debian :/ | 20:05 |
| yofel | clivejo: fixed | 20:06 |
| yofel | see last 2 commits though, they might cause fallout elsewhere | 20:07 |
| yofel | I'm still looking | 20:07 |
| yofel | hm, looks ok.. | 20:08 |
| clivejo | was it me? | 20:09 |
| yofel | the version yes, the URI was ok, but needed a code fix to work | 20:10 |
| yofel | as we don't have components in the URI anymore | 20:10 |
| valorie | thank you, ahoneybun | 20:11 |
| valorie | thank you, yofel | 20:11 |
| valorie | it's fun to see red in a channel tab not because you goofed something up, but for birthday wishes! | 20:12 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 20:12 |
| sgclark | happy birthday valorie :) | 20:14 |
| soee | :) | 20:15 |
| valorie | thank you scarlett! | 20:15 |
| soee | all the best and huge tasty cake :D | 20:15 |
| valorie | my husband already has flowers on the table for me | 20:16 |
| valorie | :-) | 20:16 |
| valorie | thanks soee | 20:16 |
| soee | sgclark: can i update topic and mark apps 16.04 for Y as wip ? | 20:16 |
| * ahoneybun grows tired of windows booting up | 20:17 | |
| soee | ahoneybun: 10 ? | 20:17 |
| ahoneybun | Yea | 20:18 |
| yofel | at all or is it taking too long? (should take seconds these days) | 20:18 |
| * renee77 sings *happy birthday* @valorie | 20:18 | |
| ahoneybun | takes a while | 20:18 |
| ahoneybun | my CPU is a bit old | 20:18 |
| ahoneybun | first gen AMD APU | 20:18 |
| soee | yofel: not if rebooting i think, if booting on ssd it takes seconds | 20:18 |
| ahoneybun | cold boot, the power went out | 20:18 |
| yofel | well, shutdown can take a while, true | 20:19 |
| yofel | ah | 20:19 |
| sgclark | soee: yes they are wip | 20:19 |
| valorie | thank you renee77! | 20:19 |
| ahoneybun | damn I missed a session at UOS because of that | 20:19 |
| === soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Yakkety open, happy hacking | Plasma 5.5.5: X/archive, Apps 15.12.3: X/archive, Apps 16.04 Y/WIP, FW 5.18: X/archive , FW 5.21 Y/WIP| https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | ||
| sgclark | ugh it is UOS? oh well, I don't have time to breathe much less that | 20:20 |
| * yofel forgot about it as well | 20:20 | |
| yofel | bummer | 20:20 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark we have a Podcast tomorrow as well | 20:20 |
| sgclark | ah yes I think I remember ignoring that email | 20:21 |
| * sgclark is drowning | 20:22 | |
| yofel | mark has a QA session tomorrow, complain to him :P | 20:22 |
| yofel | just because | 20:22 |
| * ahoneybun agrees | 20:22 | |
| sgclark | about what? that I took on too much? and can not find a way out? my own damn fault | 20:22 |
| ahoneybun | I wonder if the USPS took the "in rain, in snow, | 20:23 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark no that Canonical are fools if they don't hire you | 20:23 |
| sgclark | not their fault I suck at tech interviews :) | 20:24 |
| ahoneybun | no one is amazing at any interview | 20:24 |
| ahoneybun | your work and skill should be showcased not how well you are at speaking | 20:24 |
| sgclark | yeah my thought too, but does not seem to be working for me | 20:25 |
| sgclark | woohoooo I got a yakkety image building | 20:26 |
| * sgclark pats herself on the back | 20:26 | |
| ahoneybun | docker? | 20:26 |
| sgclark | yes for the CI | 20:26 |
| sgclark | ubuntu has not released one so I had to craft one myself | 20:26 |
| ahoneybun | sweet | 20:27 |
| sgclark | so yakkety ci builds inc shortly :) | 20:27 |
| yofel | sgclark++ | 20:27 |
| sgclark | yofel: I forked pangea tooling: https://github.com/ScarlettGatelyClark/pangea-tooling I can add you I think? | 20:28 |
| yofel | you can add people to github branches? | 20:29 |
| soee | ahoneybun: at this UOS was "Initial Planning For Ubuntu 16.10 Today At UOS" | 20:29 |
| ahoneybun | lol | 20:29 |
| sgclark | I don't know much about github. but if you want access I guess we will sort it out when the time comes | 20:31 |
| sgclark | oh missing packages | 20:32 |
| yofel | we could make a kubuntu-org project or so I guess | 20:32 |
| sgclark | hmm | 20:32 |
| sgclark | yofel: yes good idea | 20:32 |
| * sgclark looks for where it is grabbing package list | 20:33 | |
| yofel | sometimes I really love developer.ubuntu.com, very useful: | 20:35 |
| yofel | sudo apt install snappy-tools -> E: Unable to locate package snappy-tools | 20:35 |
| yofel | so much for that idea | 20:35 |
| sgclark | yeah the docs are terrible | 20:35 |
| sgclark | I was messing about with it but every corner ended in failure haha | 20:35 |
| yofel | fun | 20:41 |
| yofel | !info snappy | 20:41 |
| ubottu | snappy (source: snappy-player): Powerful media player with a minimalistic interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1.1 (wily), package size 57 kB, installed size 184 kB | 20:41 |
| yofel | I think there's a slight namespace issue :D | 20:41 |
| clivejo | will someone update that bot to default to xenial :P | 20:46 |
| yofel | I wonder who can do that again.. | 20:46 |
| clivejo | yofel: did you rename plasma-discover? | 20:47 |
| yofel | no | 20:47 |
| clivejo | ok, Ill do it manually | 20:47 |
| yofel | !info snappy | 20:50 |
| ubottu | snappy (source: snappy-player): Powerful media player with a minimalistic interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1.1 (yakkety), package size 57 kB, installed size 184 kB | 20:50 |
| yofel | there we go | 20:50 |
| sgclark | media player? | 20:50 |
| clivejo | should it be yakkety yet? | 20:50 |
| yofel | this is the devel channel | 20:50 |
| clivejo | current is xenial | 20:50 |
| yofel | you can still query xenial if you need | 20:51 |
| N3X15 | The kubuntu-ci/stable PPA makes reference of a kubuntu-ci/stable-daily PPA, which is inaccessible to the public. Any reason for that? (I'm aware PPAs are unsupported, but since it looks official, I figured I would ask) | 21:02 |
| yofel | ah, thanks for spotting that | 21:03 |
| yofel | stable-daily was disabled, that's why it complains | 21:03 |
| N3X15 | Ah, okay. The stable PPA says that the stable-daily is preferable. | 21:03 |
| yofel | hm, the reference is gone already, so someone else fixed it | 21:04 |
| yofel | by idea it is, but the QA step that fills the daily ppa is currently broken and will take a while to fix, so for now it's gone | 21:05 |
| N3X15 | Okay. Well, thanks for getting me straightened out. | 21:05 |
| * yofel removed the hint | 21:05 | |
| yofel | N3X15: if you are looking for xenial based kde upstream snapshots you might want to look at KDE Neon | 21:07 |
| N3X15 | Yeah, I might end up trying that, but I'm in the middle of a complex project on the VM in question | 21:07 |
| N3X15 | Don't feel like rebuilding it at the moment. | 21:08 |
| yofel | ok, then maybe not, right ^^ | 21:08 |
| clivejo | yofel: | 21:10 |
| clivejo | plasma-discover seems to still have yakkety branch based on master? | 21:11 |
| yofel | I guess nobody fixed that | 21:11 |
| clivejo | what should I do? | 21:11 |
| yofel | merge the xenial branch in | 21:12 |
| clivejo | ok thats totally broke the changelog | 21:16 |
| clivejo | can I remove yakkety branch and recreate it from xenial_archive? | 21:17 |
| sgclark | just fix the changelog lol | 21:17 |
| yofel | ^ | 21:17 |
| sgclark | it is the same as debain merge | 21:17 |
| clivejo | not really | 21:18 |
| sgclark | I just finished hundreds of debian merges. I have zero sympathy! | 21:18 |
| clivejo | oh | 21:19 |
| clivejo | maybe it didnt | 21:19 |
| clivejo | https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-discover/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive | 21:19 |
| clivejo | did we just take debian packaging for that? | 21:20 |
| clivejo | I was expecting sgclark on the changelog | 21:20 |
| yofel | yes we did | 21:21 |
| clivejo | ah | 21:21 |
| clivejo | that explains it | 21:21 |
| yofel | and ximion did the merge, so that's correct | 21:21 |
| N3X15 | Amazing how the ci/stable runs a lot better than the xenial repo. Plasma stopped crashing and themes work. | 21:24 |
| yofel | hm, him throwing away the changelog wasn't though, but that's not really worth fixing, we have the git history if we need it | 21:24 |
| clivejo | yofel: huh? | 21:24 |
| yofel | clivejo: just nvm | 21:24 |
| * clivejo nvm's | 21:27 | |
| clivejo | yofel: Ive uploaded most of the Not in PPA packages, but they arent appearing on the status page | 21:30 |
| clivejo | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.3_yakkety.html | 21:30 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9686050 | 21:30 |
| clivejo | khotkeys is there | 21:30 |
| clivejo | finished 48mins ago and is published, but not appearing on the status page | 21:31 |
| yofel | clivejo: look at the Series field on the build page | 21:32 |
| * clivejo kicks himself | 21:33 | |
| clivejo | git-buildpackage-ppa needs a bump :P | 21:35 |
| clivejo | these should be setting in a config file or something | 21:35 |
| yofel | right | 21:35 |
| clivejo | not hardcoded into the scripts | 21:36 |
| yofel | I would really expect that to be in distro info, but it's not | 21:36 |
| * ahoneybun wonders if anyone else is losing kickoff favorites | 21:37 | |
| yofel | not "loosing" at least | 21:37 |
| ahoneybun | keeps defaulting to "Google Chrome, System Settings, Kate, Dolphin:" | 21:38 |
| valorie | weird for the first one | 21:39 |
| valorie | was that ever *your* favs, ahoneybun? | 21:39 |
| ahoneybun | yea I know | 21:39 |
| ahoneybun | I know it was not the default from 15.10 | 21:39 |
| * soee is going to watch GoT s6e2 and wonders who dies this time ... :) | 21:40 | |
| ahoneybun | clivejo still around? | 21:40 |
| * ahoneybun thinks of clean install | 21:40 | |
| clivejo | yup | 21:40 |
| ahoneybun | how do I backup the gpg secret key | 21:40 |
| clivejo | I use kleopatra | 21:40 |
| clivejo | or what ever it is | 21:40 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 21:41 |
| valorie | https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/c481.html | 21:41 |
| clivejo | or gpg --export-secret-key -a "User Name" > private.key | 21:41 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: there is an --export-secret-key option or so if you want to do that, or just back up ~/.gnupg | 21:41 |
| clivejo | but keep it very safe! | 21:41 |
| ahoneybun | kleparta has a export secret key option | 21:41 |
| ahoneybun | that's not a problem | 21:42 |
| * ahoneybun has Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 on a USB | 21:44 | |
| clivejo | keep your key on a small USB or SD card | 21:45 |
| clivejo | so its backed up offline | 21:46 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 21:46 |
| clivejo | I made a super 4096 bit one | 21:46 |
| clivejo | and using my kubuntu.org email :) | 21:48 |
| valorie | \o/ | 21:49 |
| clivejo | finally :P | 21:49 |
| valorie | I wonder what email my key is | 21:49 |
| valorie | have to look at that stuff again once birthday/mother's day week is over, now that my dad seems a bit more stable | 21:50 |
| valorie | aka going downhill still, but more slowly | 21:50 |
| clivejo | also moved my email to gmail | 21:51 |
| clivejo | but not going well cause I dont understand labels and filters and stuff | 21:51 |
| * ahoneybun loves those | 21:52 | |
| valorie | you'll get it -- they work well once you get them set as you like | 21:52 |
| clivejo | how do I label email currently in my inbox? | 21:52 |
| valorie | there will be a line "apply to all mail that matches this search"? | 21:52 |
| valorie | say yes | 21:53 |
| valorie | haunt your spam folder for awhile too | 21:53 |
| valorie | it's pretty darn good, but still occasionally snags a good mail | 21:53 |
| valorie | remember to mark it Not Spam | 21:54 |
| ahoneybun | grabs Wells Fargo every so ofter | 21:54 |
| ahoneybun | *often | 21:54 |
| clivejo | yofel: so whats up with user-manager https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9685592 | 21:57 |
| yofel | good question actually.. | 22:04 |
| genii | I'm getting some oddness with scrollbars... some apps, clicking on bottom of it moves the content down a page at a time ( what I'd expect it to do), but on others, it moves to that exact position in the document | 22:26 |
| * ahoneybun wonders how hard it would be to package Franz | 22:47 | |
| clivejo | whats that? | 22:49 |
| ahoneybun | 16 messaging services in one app | 22:51 |
| clivejo | I really need to go through my CD/DVD collection | 22:52 |
| clivejo | Windows XP with ingreated SP2 | 22:52 |
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| clivejo | hummm why cant I copy a package via the web UI? | 23:12 |
| clivejo | I need the 5.21 ECM for kwallet-pam to build | 23:14 |
| clivejo | sgclark: any ETA on when they be done? | 23:17 |
| sgclark | clivejo: ECM is perfectly fine | 23:20 |
| sgclark | all the green ones are fine | 23:20 |
| clivejo | I cant seem to copy it over to plasma PPA | 23:20 |
| sgclark | I don't know what that has has to do with my packaging | 23:21 |
| clivejo | just wondered when it would be ready for upload | 23:22 |
| clivejo | ok thats weird! | 23:24 |
| clivejo | in firefox the checkboxs arent being displayed - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks/+copy-packages | 23:24 |
| clivejo | but in chrome they are fine | 23:25 |
| clivejo | I think its time for me to dump FF | 23:25 |
| clivejo | sgclark: any luck on docker? | 23:27 |
| sgclark | that is what I am killing myself trying to do... | 23:27 |
| * sgclark mutters something about being only one person | 23:27 | |
| sgclark | omg lost another day | 23:31 |
| sgclark | git-clone-all working now, thanks whomever fixed it | 23:34 |
| * clivejo remembers opera being a fast decent browser | 23:34 | |
| clivejo | yofel fixed it | 23:34 |
| clivejo | wow opera is MUCH faster | 23:42 |
| clivejo | ooo thats pretty! | 23:49 |
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