[00:00] <RodJLinux> OK, thanks.
[00:00] <RodJLinux> I see you Shab ... didn't take you long to find the channel.
[02:15] <Guest86343> I have two (slightly different) 500G disks, how can I set them up to be a 1T /home?
[02:33] <N3X15> did anyone test KDE's theming before deploying 16.04?  Because it's completely broken  in Virtualbox.
[02:34] <N3X15> Selecting Breeze Dark gets you either white text on white background, or the desired theme but with a white-on-white taskbar.
[02:34] <N3X15> Standard breeze is the same but with dark-on-dark.
[02:37] <N3X15> Trying to fix the colors manually just caused plasma to crash, this is absolutely incredible.
[03:08] <user|41689> hallo every one can you help me?
[03:09] <user|41689> how change background kubuntu 16.04 as default? where is folder
[03:09] <Zren> change background?
[03:10] <pasjrwoctx> right click on waqllpapper and click on desktop settings
[03:10] <user|41689> i try remastering kubuntu
[03:11] <pasjrwoctx> user|41689 did you find it?
[03:11] <user|41689> not found
[03:12] <pasjrwoctx> go to just the desktop where you see the wallpaper on your screen, right click then the last menu option is desktop settings. click on that
[03:13] <pasjrwoctx> or try Alt+D , Altd+S
[03:15] <user|41689> i cannot found in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/
[03:16] <user|41689> are you have refer link?
[03:16] <Zren> https://i.imgur.com/scNw8tC.png
[03:19] <user|41689> thank Zren, but i want change background permanently
[03:20] <Zren> oooh
[03:20] <user|41689> are you have idea
[04:04] <Angel1604lts> excuse me I would ask if in kubuntu 16.04  I7-3632QM the Intel Core processor (4x2.2GHz) and supported well?
[04:05] <valorie> I have an intel core i7 on this laptop, and I don't have to do anything extra
[04:05] <valorie> Just Works
[04:09] <Angel1604lts> valorie, It is but the fan of my laptop nn never stops, and this normal?
[04:13] <valorie> hmmm, no, that isn't normal
[04:14] <valorie> you can see what is making it work by hitting control + escape
[04:14] <valorie> which brings up system activity
[04:15] <valorie> my CPU use varies between 4 - 10%
[04:17] <Angel1604lts> valorie,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16198589/  this my tem.
[04:19] <valorie> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16198606/ mine
[04:19] <valorie> this is not my area of expertise
[04:20] <Angel1604lts> thanks valorie
[04:56] <lolovp> hi there! Someone can help me?
[04:56] <Guest72602> I've got a partition I want to mount for hosting VMs accesible to all users. What's the best mount point?
[04:57] <Guest72602> lolovp what do you need help with?
[04:57] <lolovp> Hi, I'm new with Linux. I've never had before
[04:57] <lolovp> So, to start
[04:58] <Guest72602> Have you installed it yet?
[04:58] <lolovp> No, I can't. UNetbootin stops at 5%
[04:58] <Guest72602> you're currently on windows?
[04:59] <lolovp> Yes
[04:59] <Guest72602> try using Rufus instead of unetbootin
[04:59] <lolovp> But I want to install it in another PC
[04:59] <Guest72602> unetbooting kinda sucked for me.
[05:00] <lolovp> What can you tell me about persistence?
[05:00] <goddard> what is a good konsole music player?
[05:01] <lolovp> Is like you have 0 to 4gb to use but once you shut down your PC it's all gone?
[05:01] <Guest72602> a persistence file is for if you'd like to save changes you make to a Live system between boots
[05:01] <Guest72602> goddard mpd
[05:02] <Guest72602> mpd can be used as a backend to many other media players
[05:02] <goddard> Guest72602: so i can play a song and look things up by album?
[05:03] <Guest72602> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Music_Player_Daemon
[05:04] <Guest72602> you'd use MPD along with a client of your choice to play your music
[05:04] <Guest72602> most likely mpc or ncmpc
[05:05] <Guest72602> use "sudo apt-get install" instead of "sudo pacman -S".
[05:05] <Guest72602> lolovp: is rufus working for you?
[05:06] <lolovp> yes!
[05:06] <lolovp> no problems at all
[05:06] <Guest72602> once you have linux installed, you can use dd instead
[05:07] <lolovp> is the iso file but for linux?
[05:07] <lolovp> i don't know ANYTHING about linux
[05:07] <lolovp> I'll learn on the way
[05:07] <goddard> Guest72602: oh im just trying to play music
[05:07] <goddard> in the terminal
[05:07] <goddard> Guest72602: tried cmus but it doesn't even play music
[05:09] <Guest72602> vlc has a command line player
[05:09] <Guest72602> you may have to read the man page
[05:09] <Guest72602> e.g., man cmus
[05:32] <JMichaelX> anyone else having issues with Kubuntu 16.04 not seeing network printers?
[05:34] <valorie> JMichaelX: I see ours in 16.04
[05:34] <valorie> just checked
[05:35] <JMichaelX> valorie: ok, ty. not sure why it is not working here
[05:36] <valorie> I've not done anything special
[05:37] <hateball> JMichaelX: How are yours shared?
[05:37] <hateball> JMichaelX: Are they shared via CUPS, straight up IP, over samba etc?
[05:38] <hateball> I think I saw someone having other issues with samba, is why I ask
[05:38] <JMichaelX> hateball: i just configured a headless raspberry pi as a print server, using cups
[05:39] <JMichaelX> another raspberry pi on my desk began seeing the networked printer right away, but my kubuntu desktop does not
[05:41] <hateball> JMichaelX: do you have cups-browsed installed?
[05:41] <hateball> (you should by default)
[05:42] <JMichaelX> yes, it is installed
[05:43] <JMichaelX> i just grabbed a netbook, running lubuntu 14.04, and it also picked up the network printer
[05:44] <SparkMasterTape> What folder do I put fonts I have downloaded in to be globally accessible ?
[05:45] <SparkMasterTape> When I double click the font , there is no option to install it , it just wants to know what program I would like to use to handle it
[05:46] <hateball> SparkMasterTape: Use the fonts installer gui, lets you pick user or system
[05:46] <hateball> SparkMasterTape: "/usr/bin/kcmshell5 fontinst"
[05:47] <hateball> JMichaelX: havent disabled avahi or something?
[05:47] <SparkMasterTape> thank you
[05:48] <JMichaelX> hateball: not as far as i know
[05:48] <ingopan> morning
[05:50] <JMichaelX> ps ax shows the avahi daemon is running
[05:51] <hateball> hmmm, aint got a cups-server here to test with atm sadly
[05:52] <lolovp> Hi there, I'm looking for Intellinet 525152 drivers. Anyone can help me out?
[05:54] <JMichaelX> i just tried to add the printer manually in Kubuntu, and my attempt to print a test page resulted in 'filter failed'
[05:55] <JMichaelX> but i am able to print from LXDE on both a rapberry pi, and lubuntu netbook
[05:56] <hateball> well, it's possible it suggested the wrong driver, in case you got several options
[06:03] <DontShootMe_> hello, i have Firefox 46 on Kubuntu and all my toolTips are black on black background, how can i change it, i have tested on Kate and all seem ok !
[06:05] <mrabhi>  can sum1 explain to me why ubuntu package freezes and why is kde-neon launched?
[06:05] <mrabhi> ubuntu/kubuntu
[06:05] <valorie> mrabhi: is that one question?
[06:06] <valorie> my kubuntu doesn't freeze
[06:06] <mrabhi> valorie, you have rolling release?
[06:06] <valorie> no
[06:06] <valorie> 2 releases per year
[06:07] <valorie> a long-term support release every other year
[06:07] <mrabhi> isn't kubuntu update cycle same as ubuntu
[06:08] <valorie> yes, we all release together, because we are a part of Ubuntu
[06:08] <valorie> !releases
[06:09] <hateball> DontShootMe_: change the GTK theme (firefox is GTK, Kate is QT)
[06:10] <hateball> DontShootMe_: Firefox 46 switched to GTK3 from GTK2, so theme changed
[06:10] <mrabhi> thanks
[06:10] <DontShootMe_> hateball: where can I do that ? how to ?
[06:11] <mrabhi> I want to do a fresh-install of kde-neon on kubuntu 16.04
[06:11] <mrabhi> what is ideal way to proceed
[06:12] <DontShootMe_> hateball: can you give me an application which use GTK3 to check and verify ?
[06:12] <hateball> DontShootMe_: open system settings, "application style" or some such
[06:12] <valorie> you should ask in #kde-neon
[06:12] <valorie> it's not supported here, mrabhi
[06:12] <hateball> DontShootMe_: I don't know of any other than Firefox, which I do not usually use either
[06:12] <hateball> DontShootMe_: anyhow, you should have a setting for GTK theme there somewhere....
[06:12] <hateball> I don't run english locale so my directions might be off
[06:14] <DontShootMe_> hateball: i run french locale
[06:16] <hateball> DontShootMe_: right, well it's under the "appearance" stuff anyhow. There's not too much to choose from so you should find it
[06:18] <hateball> DontShootMe_: you can also run "LC_ALL=C /usr/bin/systemsettings5" to get the dialog in english. click application style and then gtk style.
[06:34] <DontShootMe_> hateball: got it ! now i have to find a good theme replacement for the oxygen-gtk
[06:34] <hateball> DontShootMe_: :)
[06:34] <DontShootMe_> hateball: thank you for your help !
[06:34] <hateball> DontShootMe_: you're welcome
[06:39] <stapper> I'm thinking of switching to kubuntu, how stable is it and does it still have the Amazon data mining?
[06:40] <valorie> no data mining, ever
[06:40] <valorie> and stable for me
[06:41] <stapper> that's a godd start, it's fully switched to systemd and all it's tentecales(journalctl,...) right?
[06:42] <hateball> For the most part yes
[06:42] <stapper> K
[06:43] <stapper> did it break last week? I'm/was running Debian with KDE and for some reasong networkmanager was unable to connect to wpa2 networks after an update, did you have the same issue?
[06:47] <hateball> Works well for me, WPA2 with radius auth etc
[06:48] <stapper> great
[06:49] <stapper> I'm now messing around with Gentoo, but it's a lot of work, id I don't have it setup by Thursday I'm going to use Kubuntu, I think
[06:51] <AciD`> hey, how come dolphin cannot open folders with accentuated names when accessing them through ssh (fish)?
[06:51] <AciD`> this in new since 15.10 btw
[08:35] <Smurphy> anyone knows a nice software to make screen anotations for plasma 5.5+ ? like kaption back in time ?
[08:40] <hateball> Smurphy: so a screenshot tool with extra features?
[08:40] <hateball> I don't know of any, I just send scrots straight to gimp or krita and do that stuff there
[08:52] <Smurphy> hateball: actually - no.
[08:52] <Smurphy> I am doing some video-recordings for work - and as I'm the only dude working under linux, I don't have all the 1K licenses of Windows crap they use in my company.
[08:53] <Smurphy> While in the Video recording, I need to point out some things etc. - and that's what I need it for.
[08:53] <hateball> Smurphy: oh for video there's OBS Studio
[08:53] <hateball> tho I dunno if it has annotations and stuff
[08:54] <Smurphy> IT is while doing the recording I'd like to do that.
[08:55] <Smurphy> Kaption on KDE 4.x was quite good.
[09:43] <alain__> Goog morning every body, I'm French, I've have a little problem to translate my system Kubuntu 16.04 in my own language. His there anybody who 'd be gentle to help me ?
[09:43] <alain__> As name of the paquet, french paquet of course, thanks a lot !
[09:44] <hateball> !fr | alain__
[09:45] <hateball> alain__: That said, all you need is to install a few language-packs
[09:45] <alain__> yes, which one ? that is the question !
[09:45] <hateball> alain__: sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr
[09:48] <hateball> alain__: And if you open up System settings, you have a "Regional settings" you may need to change.
[09:48] <alain__> ok, I'm working on it, all be back very soon to tell you more about it
[09:51] <alain__> ok, that wasn't install by default. Thank you, have a nice day !
[09:59] <pblang> language fr is not ok for alain__ :(
[09:59] <pblang> hateball: another idee ?
[10:05] <alain__> Thanks hateball, that's was a great idea, but it seems not to be enough to solve my problem.
[10:06] <alain__> Is there anybody you can make me change my system language to my own one ? French !
[10:08] <alain__> It seems that my paquet kde-l10n-fr wasn't install yet.
[10:08] <alain__> I'm on it !
[10:11] <hateball> alain__: you also need to go into regional settings and set the correct country
[10:11] <pblang> hateball: where ?
[10:12] <hateball> pblang: Go into System settings, there is a "Regional settings" thing
[10:12] <hateball> pblang: There you can set prefered language and also country
[10:12] <pblang> hateball: not in the kubuntu 16.04 ... :/
[10:12] <hateball> pblang: It's under "personal info
[10:12] <pblang> ...
[10:13] <hateball> pblang: I can screenshot if it helps :o
[10:13] <hateball> Personalization seems to be the category
[10:15] <hateball> pblang: http://i.imgur.com/0IdeVM1.png
[10:15] <pblang> hateball: this is not present in kubuntu 16.04 ...
[10:16] <hateball> pblang: I am currently sitting here, in 16.04 so I am pretty sure it is
[10:16] <pblang> ...
[10:16] <hateball> pblang: run "systemsettings5" in a terminal to get that
[10:16] <pblang> wtf ...
[10:18] <pblang> hateball: ... it is ok whit kde-l10n-fr ...
[10:18] <hateball> hmm
[10:18] <pblang> fucking language systeme seting ... :(
[10:18] <pblang> lol
[10:21] <pblang> hateball: tank you for your help ...
[10:21] <pblang> thank*
[10:21] <hateball> pblang: It's working like you want it now?
[10:22] <pblang> yes ...
[10:22] <pblang> it is ok for me
[10:23] <pblang> so good-by everybody
[10:25] <hateball> :)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
 Hiya BlueKaj
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hi Sick_Rimmit
[12:37] <AwayFromWindows> Hi. I am running Kubuntu 16.04, fully updated. I had screen edges configured in such a way that KWin's Present Windows action gets triggered for certain screen corners. This configuration used to work until yesterday. What I can tell so far is that screen edges still trigger actions, but not Present Windows. Present Windows does not run anymore, even when explicitly called via keyboard shortcut. When I log in as a
[12:37] <AwayFromWindows> freshly created user, everything is fine. How can I isolate the issue without completely throwing away all of my desktop settings? Thank you.
[12:37] <AwayFromWindows> tail -f /var/log/syslog does not show anything at all
[12:38] <AwayFromWindows> that is, it does not say anything when I try to invoke Present Windows
[13:01] <hateball> AwayFromWindows: have you tried disabling the effect and enabling it again?
[13:04] <AwayFromWindows> @hateball: Yes, I have, but to no avail. I've also just found out that if I run "kwin --replace" in a terminal, everyhing works just fine in a new instance. However, if I close it then I am back at square one.
[13:04] <hateball> AwayFromWindows: Oh, so that sounds more like kwin doesnt start with your session
[13:05] <hateball> AwayFromWindows: you can run "kwin --replace &" and then press enter and type "exit" in the terminal. That should detach it and keep it running
[13:07] <hateball> AwayFromWindows: run "/usr/bin/kcmshell5 componentchooser" and make sure kwin is selected as windowmanager
[13:07] <AwayFromWindows> Yes, but I cannot help but wonder why. I mean, rebooting does not help either.
[13:07] <AwayFromWindows> ok, will try it right away
[13:09] <AwayFromWindows> well, it says use default KDE window manager (KWin)
[13:09] <hateball> hmmm, that should work then....
[13:10] <hateball> AwayFromWindows: for kicks, you could try picking a different wm and set it to "kwin --replace"
[13:10] <AwayFromWindows> yes, that's the weird part: kwin does start upon reboot and everything seems to be working just fine apart from the present windows function
[13:10] <hateball> hmmm
[13:11] <AwayFromWindows> do yo mean install another wm at first and then switch back and forth?
[13:11] <AwayFromWindows> what makes things worse is that a fresh user does not have any problems at all
[13:12] <hateball> AwayFromWindows: oh I see now it works by autodetect... used to be you could manually enter what wm to use
[13:12] <AwayFromWindows> that's why I thought I could simply isolate let's say the bit that controls this function in the KWin config file and apply it back to my user
[13:12] <hateball> Yeah
[13:12] <hateball> AwayFromWindows: Well, #kde or #plasma probably know more about this specific thing
[13:13] <hateball> It sounds strange if other kwin things work as expected
[13:14] <AwayFromWindows> Yes, I think they could perhaps elaborate on the option of isolating this particular function. Anyway, many thanks for your help and time!
[14:06] <AceKing> Has anyone else been having a problem navigating when trying to save a file in Firefox? It's happening on all my computers.
[14:29] <pat_rick> hello
[14:29] <pat_rick> does anyone happen to know when the kubuntu backboards ppa will receive updates for xenial
[14:29] <pat_rick> specifically for plasma 5.6?
[14:42] <soee> pat_rick: hiho
[14:43] <soee> there is not eta. devs are finishing migration to launchapd and adjusting CI to work with it
[14:43] <soee> and builds first will be for YY than backported to Xenial
[14:47] <pat_rick> soee: I see, thanks for the info
[14:48] <pat_rick> is there another way to upgrade KDE to 5.6?
[14:48] <pat_rick> because, let's face it, 5.5 is still rather buggy
[14:48] <pat_rick> and while 5.6 has probably bugs as well, it seems as if at least some of those that I encountered here on xenial might have been fixed
[14:49] <soee> pat_rick: you would have to compile it, or try Neon, but i suggest to wait 2-3 weeks and it shoudl be in Xenial i think
[14:49] <pat_rick> ah, ok, 2-3 weeks is fine
[14:50] <soee> :)
[14:50] <pat_rick> i was afraid it could be something like 2-3 months
[14:50] <soee> nah in 3 months we will have Plasma 5.7 ;D
[14:51] <pat_rick> looking forward to it
[14:52] <pat_rick> ok, have to get some things done
[14:52] <pat_rick> later people
[15:02] <marco-parillo> AceKing: My only problem saving files in FireFox is that it does not use kdialog
[15:03] <marco-parillo> Chromium will, certainly if you install rekonq first; there may be other ways to make it use kdialog.
[15:11] <chuck__> hey guys, can someone recommend me a VM Software to run run windows 10 under kubuntu?
[15:12] <kereltis> Virtualbox
[15:12] <chuck__> kereltis: Would I download the Ubuntu 16.04 file then?
[15:13] <kereltis> Yes
[15:14] <chuck__> kereltis: Thank you!
[15:15] <kereltis> No worries. Win 10 runs pretty well with Virtualbox for everyday tasks.
[15:16] <chuck__> kereltis: It's an older Laptop that I formerly used with Win 7 but for performance reasons I switched to kubuntu. I'll just need it to run MS Office. Would you recommend Win 10 over Win 7 for a VM? Not sure if I have another Win 10 key. Win 8.1 maybe
[15:18] <kereltis> I've only had a quick look at Win10 but as far as I know it's much lighter than Win7 so should run better in a vm
[16:51] <user|8417> My pc has 1.7 gb ram should i install kubuntu 16.04?
[16:51] <user|8417> Sry actually its 1.47 gb
[16:53] <user|8417> Will u pls tell me how much ram kubuntu consumes at idle
[17:08] <antivirgear> Every Windowborder disappeared and I cant close, maximize, minimize any window... again...
[17:08] <antivirgear> also all/most programms are missing in the taskbar
[17:17] <antivirgear> What's wrong with Kubuntu... Bugs and Glitches everywhere ... and most of them just random...
[17:21] <chuck__> openjdk-8-jre is already the newest version (8u77-b03-3ubuntu3).
[17:21] <soee> antivirgear: maybe some kwin issues
[17:22] <soee> antivirgear: are you on 16.04 ?
[17:22] <chuck__> However when I try to open a jar file nothing happens. I see a tab opening that says starting java openjdk and then nothing happens
[17:22] <chuck__> Can someone help?
[17:25] <antivirgear> soee: kwin seems to crash somehow... it's now running from terminal but if I close it, kwin also disapperas and yes, 16.04 LTS
[17:31] <pat_rick> antivirgear: I have a lot of small issues with KDE 5.x as well, though at least nothing major - just little annoyances that add up over time
[17:31] <pat_rick> I'm afraid KDE 5.x is not yet really ready for prime time
[17:35] <pat_rick> chuck__: maybe your java file requires a different java version?
[17:36] <pat_rick> chuck__: i.e. some compatibility issue
[17:37] <chuck__> pat_rick: The File requires 8u40
[17:38] <pat_rick> it's possible that it requires Oracle Java as opposed to OpenJDK
[17:42] <chuck__> pat_rick: How can I install that? I didnt find anything in discover
[17:42] <pat_rick> it's not in the official repos
[17:42] <pat_rick> but you can find many tutorials on the net
[17:42] <chuck__> I will check that out, thank you!
[17:43] <pat_rick> afaik it's also included in the webupd8 ppa, which should be trustworthy
[17:46] <chuck__> I'm new to linux. So I need to add the ppa and then find out what command installs java, right?+
[17:48] <pat_rick> chuck__: maybe this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/521145/how-to-install-oracle-java-on-ubuntu-14-04#521154
[17:49] <pat_rick> now, that's assuming webupd8 ppa has already been updated to xenial, but I think it should
[17:49] <BluesKaj_> chuck__, install muon, it's much more comprehensive package manager than muon-discover, it's older and more mature.
[17:50] <pat_rick> BluesKaj_: it still won't help him install oracle java, though
[17:51] <pat_rick> that is assuming Oracle Java is the answer to his problem, of course
[17:51] <pat_rick> But installing muon is anyway a good idea
[17:51] <BluesKaj_> if it's available in the repos, the berkley edition?
[17:51] <chuck__> I'm following patricks link right now
[17:52] <chuck__> I just need java for this one programm (it's an excersise application for my college)
[17:53] <BluesKaj_> chuck, ok , specialist stuff
[17:53] <chuck__> Ah okay, but muon seems like a good idea anyway
[17:53] <BluesKaj_> yes , it has more packages listed
[17:53] <BluesKaj_> a good reference for packages and dependencies etc
[17:54] <chuck__> I'll wait for java to install and then install muon
[17:54] <pat_rick> chuck__: hope that helps
[17:55] <chuck__> pat_rick: If not I'll install java in my win 7 VM
[17:55] <pat_rick> chuck__: btw. I saw your earlier question but you had already left: it might also work to install Office with playonlinux/wine
[17:55] <pat_rick> I had done that, too, for some time. worked well enough
[17:56] <pat_rick> is sometimes more convenient than the VM approach
[17:57] <chuck__> pat_rick: Thanks! I did some research earlier and was under the impression that this wouldn't be the nices solution and a VM should be preferred
[17:58] <pat_rick> chuck__: it probably depends on the version of Office
[17:58] <chuck__> pat_rick: 2013 or 2016
[17:59] <pat_rick> it worked quite well for mine, but ultimately you have to experiment a bit ;)
[18:00] <chuck__> My desktop runs windows 10, so if I really needed office / windows features for a longer time I'd just remote into that when I finally get wake on lan to run
[18:00] <chuck__> but thanks for the tip! And thank you for your help with java, with oracle it runs :)
[18:00] <chuck__> Now I can learn statistics, yeah ;)
[18:00] <pat_rick> great, have fun with it ;)
[18:02] <chuck__> thanks :-P
[18:46] <avkutyrev> Hi everyone! Can anybody tell me, is it normal that my network interfaces eth0 and eth1 are named enp1s0 and enp2s6?
[18:47] <avkutyrev> I made clear install. Kubuntu 16.04
[18:47] <AciD`> avkutyrev -> yep
[18:47] <avkutyrev> Is this the feature of 16.04? In 15/04 it was eth
[18:48] <avkutyrev> Is this the feature of 16.04? In 15.04 it was eth
[18:53] <marco-parillo> It might be a SystemD thing.
[18:54] <rattking> it is a systemd/udev thing.. its called "Predictable Network Interface Names"
[18:59] <chuck__> Baloon File Extractor is eating up almost 100% usage. Can someone help?
[19:18] <Iskierka> ... okay, this 16.04 adventure just keeps getting stranger and stranger. Just tried to clean install to get it working, restarted from liveusb, now I'm getting tty spammed with driver errors instead of a restart
[19:18] <chucksss> Oh I feel stupid now. I installed Win 7 in a VM. I guess baloo just indexed the new files. Turning off File Search in Sys Settings and logging back in resolved the issue :)
[19:31] <soee> Iskierka: after install ?
[19:32] <Iskierka> While still on the liveusb, clicked restart to try boot to the disk and see if it worked, but got error spam instead of restart
[19:32] <Iskierka> but I can actually log in to this install so that's an improvement
[19:35] <soee> Iskierka: ok, good to hear it worked in the end :)
[19:36] <Iskierka> not necessarily since I've not yet made it use my old /home which I think may have been he problem
[19:42] <Iskierka> aaand nope, it still hates my old home folder and doesn't spit out any error that can be found. Even after copying a fresh home folder over the top to hopefully wipe over any bugged config files
[20:04] <Iskierka> so looks like I just flat-out can't use my old /home folder no matter how many maybe-system-affecting configs I delete or copy settings from a working /home, so ... guess I'm not gonna be using 16.04 if it's not gonna give a useful error anywhere
[20:04] <dmatt> Iskierka: just logged in and your description looks like instance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1571564
[20:05] <Iskierka> It installed fine and if I use a new home folder it can login and be used
[20:05] <Iskierka> but the old one just causes it to give up, even using openbox instead of plasma
[20:05] <dmatt> what system was on old home before?
[20:06] <Iskierka> 15.10. Did dist-upgrade to 16.04, got this same problem, assumed it was a failed upgrade. Fresh install with same home indicates no, 16.04 just hates me altogether
[20:07] <dmatt> Iskierka: would you like to retain settings or just data?
[20:08] <Iskierka> I'd like to retain settings for programs and such with how much trouble I had getting samba and znc working but those might be lost causes
[20:09] <Iskierka> I've already given up on any obviously kubuntu settings in trying to get it to not fail on load, but the fact it fails in openbox suggests it's something more than just the obvious
[20:10] <dmatt> Iskierka: if you do not care about settings, you can owerwrite all folders starting with dot (like .kde, .local ) with the version from clean install
[20:11] <dmatt> Iskierka:  maybe do backup first
[20:11] <Iskierka> I already did that, not just with the hidden folders but all from a clean working /home
[20:11] <Iskierka> hasn't changed a thing
[20:12] <dmatt> Iskierka: are you sure you mounted home properly, start in recovery mode only to root and check what is available
[20:13] <Iskierka> tty works and ls from ~ lists every file and folder I expect
[20:17] <dmatt> Iskierka: i suspect old /home setting are messed from upgrade
[20:17] <dmatt> Iskierka: upgrades often fails if user hass ppa repositories enabled
[20:18] <Iskierka> I've deleted every setting I can find and it still fails.
[20:18] <Iskierka> and this isn't an upgrade, this is now a clean install using the same home. Besides which the upgrade worked, just the /home doesn't
[20:19] <dmatt> Iskierka: what about copying only data to new /home ?
[20:20] <Iskierka> Haven't tried as that gets rather complicated since steam and hexchat and such do store data in . folders
[20:20] <Iskierka> would have to parse through everything
[20:21] <dmatt> Iskierka: could you try create new user?
[20:22] <viewer|52827> Hi everyone
[20:22] <viewer|52827> I tried to upgrade to 16.04 but kubuntu doesn't start
[20:22] <viewer|52827> any idea? installation of ubuntu-desktop started gui
[20:23] <Iskierka> dmatt, looks like it may not be necessary, since a silly random theory appears to have worked
[20:23] <dmatt> Iskierka: and what was it?
[20:23] <Iskierka> sudo chmod katherine -Rf ~, reboot, and now I can login. Apparently dist-upgrade managed to get screwed up on permissions of /home?
[20:24] <Iskierka> Now just need to go through and fix all the lost settings. Thanks for trying to help at least
[20:24] <dmatt> Iskierka: that is why I asked if it is mounted correctly
[20:25] <Iskierka> I mounted it the same way as I had last time I did a clean install which had worked fine, and it was mounting (presumably) the same way after dist-upgrade when 15.10 had been fine with it
[20:26] <dmatt> Iskierka: ok, good luck with the rest of it
[20:27] <dmatt> viewer|52827: if you use non english language, maybe you hit bug 1571564
[20:41] <Alfre2> Hi, I have a question. Can you get me, how to install/enable silverligth in ubuntu 16.04?
[20:48] <AciD`> $uptime : 10:46:29 up  1:36,  4 users,  load average: 1.82, 2.07, 2.05. What did you do Kubuntu? What did you do using a buggy kwin/plasma version for default? :(
[20:48] <soee> !silverlight
[20:48] <AciD`> previous load with the same applications open : 0.82, 0.52, 0.46...
[20:48] <soee> Alfre2: but i think Moonlight is not maintained anymore and basically it is suggested to just don't use it
[20:51] <Alfre2> Thanks for yours support
[20:51] <genii> !info pipelight
[20:52] <genii> Hm
[20:53] <dmatt> btw, does knetwalk game work for you guys in 16.04? I have segmentation fault.
[20:58] <N3X15> The kubuntu-ci/stable PPA makes reference of a kubuntu-ci/stable-daily PPA, which is inaccessible to the public.  Any reason for that?  (I'm aware PPAs are unsupported, but since it looks official, I figured I would ask)
[21:00] <dmatt> Ne
[21:01] <dmatt> N3X15: that is probaly question to #kubuntu-devel
[21:01] <N3X15> Okay, I'll go poke them.
[22:54] <mamamia> Yo
[23:07] <Frizzanko> anyone care to help me get the new kde plasma on my kubuntu 16.04? i'm pretty dang new, and i've been looking online  for a solution but i guess using a ppa is out of my range?
 The backport ppa has not been updated yet
 Once we get 5.6 on 16.10 then we backport to 16.04