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Mirvdobey: at some point yes, but qt 5.4 for vivid overlay and 5.6 for xenial overlay is higher priority than debugging what broke in yakkedy. I will first test how Qt 5.6 seems on yakkety, to see if it's different than the 5.5.04:57
Mirv(also, sick lately and it seems today would become another such day argh)06:23
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flexiondotorgmdeslaur, If you have a moment I'd like to better understand how Firefox and Chromium compare with regard to how they are updated and receive security updates in Ubuntu.07:58
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willcookebarry, are you able to attend this session later?  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22675/finish-move-to-py3/08:31
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mdeslaurflexiondotorg: sure, what do you want to know?10:51
flexiondotorgmdeslaur, Is Chromium afforded the same attention as Firefox with regard to version updates and security updates?10:58
mdeslaurflexiondotorg: chromium is in universe, it's not officially supported. Since it's a popular package, we do have a developer doing updates.10:59
mdeslaurflexiondotorg: but it's best-effort only10:59
mdeslaurwe're not currently able to publish every single update10:59
flexiondotorgmdeslaur, OK, that answers my question.11:00
mdeslaurand when new major versions come out, it takes a while before we're able to get it to build on all archs and publish it11:00
flexiondotorgI saw Kylin seed it.11:00
mdeslauryes, a couple of flavours do seed it11:00
flexiondotorgmdeslaur, Thanks. I'll bes ticking with Firefox in the seeds then :-)11:00
mdeslaurthat's what I would recommend, yes11:01
flexiondotorgIf it were in main, I'd likely switch to Chromium for Ubuntu MATE.11:01
pittiGood morning11:39
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dobeyMirv: ok, but no idea why you're telling me about qt in yakkety :)13:22
caribouLaney: ping13:42
caribouLaney: I would need your help for LP: #133506813:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1335068 in trusty-backports "Please backport apache2 2.4.10-1ubuntu1 (main) from Utopic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133506813:43
caribouLaney: I think I've done all the testing I could13:43
barrywillcooke: yes13:45
willcookethanks barry13:46
barrywillcooke: if my math is right, that's in about 1h10m, right?13:49
willcookebarry, yeah13:51
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dholbachwillcooke, xnox: who of you is going to run the py3 session later on?14:05
willcookedholbach, I can do it14:05
Mirvdobey: right, it was for doko :)14:29
dokoMirv, so what did you tell me?14:30
Mirvdoko: first line at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/03/%23ubuntu-devel.txt . and this day turned into sick leave then too but eventually, there shall be progress...14:31
xnoxbarry, will you make the py3 only session?14:35
barryxnox: i'm already there. :)14:35
xnoxbarry, it's in half an hour? or is it now now?14:36
barryxnox: oh, yeah 23m.  i'm an irc early bird :)14:37
xnoxbarry, which channel?14:37
barryxnox: #ubuntu-uos-core.  i'm in the summit session but i guess the live hangout url will be posted closer to session start14:38
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LocutusOfBorghi, can anybody please make "tar" migrate (aka do you think we can ignore lava-* testsuite failure? I think we should)15:08
zygawe use lava in ubuntu? wow15:10
ogra_zyga, to keep the tar fluid obviously :)15:14
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LocutusOfBorginfinity, ^^ wrt tar migration15:32
LocutusOfBorgthanks <15:32
hallyndoko: hey - was there a specific blocking problem which caused you to multi-arch-ify libvirt0?15:55
hallynAsking to try and decide how to justify pushing the patch to debian15:55
dokohallyn, is there a reason not to multiarchify? also it's already forwarded: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=81306215:56
ubottuDebian bug 813062 in src:libvirt "please multiarchify the library packages" [Normal,Open]15:56
cjwatsonit's 2016.  multiarching a library shouldn't require justification15:56
hallyndoko: oh, ok, thx15:57
hallyncjwatson: <shrug>  there was a very nasty lp bug reporter complaining about it15:57
cjwatson*not* multiarching should require a justification :)15:57
hallynbc he then went on to install from upstream and it installed in /usr/lib/ and messed him up15:57
hallyndoko: cool, thanks :)15:57
cjwatsonall sorts of reasons why that sort of thing might break confusingly ...15:57
hallyncjwatson: no kidding.15:58
hallynbut then i was wondering why debian hadn't yet,15:58
hallynwell, mind you, for libvirt in particular i'm really not sure having two versions sitting around makes sense.15:58
dokohallyn, but I wanted a /usr/lib without .so files, which should be true for the cloud and desktop images. yeah, that's not a reasonable goal, I agree ;)15:58
dokohallyn, people who explicitly configure with --prefix=/usr should know that they can break things15:59
pittismoser: printf "lxc.aa_profile=unconfined\nlxc.seccomp=" | lxc profile set default raw.lxc -16:21
pittismoser: bug 157784416:29
ubottubug 1577844 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "don't run ifup@.service before networking.service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157784416:29
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nneulDid something weird happen with security updates very recently for libssl1.0.0?17:34
nneulSeeing something where it looks like I got a -4.1 update from security for 16.04, but now it's not there, and causing all sorts of dependency headaches.17:34
nneulargh. looks like mirroring script is screwing up somehow.17:38
hallynwell this probably isn't good...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16206598/  (apport giving "Error('Incorrect padding',)")18:15
hallynon a curl crash report18:16
hallynto do with libtls18:16
hallynon a day when we have openssl security updates18:16
* hallyn should just unplug all the cables and stop for the day18:16
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dokocjwatson, did you omit some uploads for ffmpeg rdeps by intent?19:20
cjwatsondoko: yes, I wanted to look more closely at the ones that already had ubuntuN modifications19:47
cjwatsonI'll get round to it :)19:47
dokopitti,  these packages have failing autopkg tests blocking the json-c transition: upstart python-astropy fwts vtk6 vtk mir19:50
CarlFKroadmr: is this something you can help with?  (u-installer went quiet)   debconf: --> PROGRESS INFO base-installer/section/pick_kernel  ...  base-installer: info: Found kernels ''19:56
CarlFKdialog "no kernels will be installed."19:57
Logannacc: is it safe to sync over your bootstrapping deltas for PHP packages that use phpunit? or would you prefer that those changes be forwarded to Debian?19:57
roadmrCarlFK: ugh? is this a server or desktop install? could you share your preseed?19:57
CarlFKroadmr:  netboot installer,  https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/tree/master/setup/nodes/pxe/shaz/var/www/d-i/xenial19:58
roadmrCarlFK: let me try running that locally, may be a bit slow as I'm on a call heh19:58
CarlFKthose files worked on wily, but you guys keep developing new features :p19:59
naccLogan: it's on my todo to forward to debian this week or next20:00
Loganok sounds good20:01
roadmrCarlFK: hehe :) need to keep breaking things, else there's nothing to fix20:01
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sergiusensslangasek I ask Martin Pitt already, but maybe you know https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-yakkety/yakkety/amd64/s/snapcraft/20160503_163410@/log.gz20:33
sergiusensslangasek I get those for every yakkety push (it's python apt based code). Martin thinks it might be libapt20:33
pittino, I was saying it looks like it fails in apt, not in python-apt20:34
sergiusenspitti oh, I didn't want to wake you :-)20:34
pittithe URLs look oddly corrupted, though20:34
sergiusenspitti right, did I say the same thing incorrectly?20:34
pittisergiusens: no, not really, I just meant it's not necessarily a bug in apt itself20:35
pittijust that I think it's very unlikely to be a bug in python-apt20:35
sergiusensright, I would agree20:36
pittimight be anywhere between some odd testbed setup failure or some weird fallout from -fPIE (as it only happens on amd64 and it works on xenial)20:36
pittiI didn't see other apt failures on amd64 which look similar, but this is using apt with some temporary APTROOT, right?20:36
pittibut apport's tests do that too, and that works20:37
pittisergiusens: so I guess in short, no real idea -- this needs reproducing and investigating locally20:37
pittisergiusens: do you get this locally in qemu/lxc?20:37
sergiusenspitti yup, apt_cache = apt.Cache(rootdir=rootdir, memonly=True)20:38
sergiusenspitti I need to redo my lxc image sources, I don't see yakkety images on the public server20:39
pittithere are a lot of those spurious \n20:40
sergiusenspitti those error messages are broken, don't be lead off track by that; that is just a combination of dedent and that test collection thing I forget the name of20:40
sergiusenspitti the ones in the middle should be easier to read (integration tests)20:41
sergiusensthe example ones will spit messages out like that20:42
sergiusenspitti subunit is the word I was missing20:43
sergiusenspitti any idea how to lxc launch a yakkety image?20:44
pittisergiusens: images.linuxcontainers.org has had yakkety for several days now20:45
pittisergiusens: adt-build-lxd images:ubuntu/yakkety/amd6420:46
pittiadt-run ... --- lxd adt/ubuntu/yakkety/amd6420:46
sergiusenspitti ah, it does! sorry, was looking at ubuntu-daily:20:46
pittisergiusens: yeah, no cloud images yet, and they are also a bit impractical for testing20:46
sergiusenspitti thanks, yeah I just want to write some micro python code to see if I see the issue20:47
ginggsxnox: sorry i missed your boost patch in debian's svn. Here's another that might be useful https://github.com/boostorg/graph/commit/6197b9c54932f161806ac6fb28344f6e245c7891 (gentoo are carrying it)21:00
slangaseksergiusens: no idea on that, no21:13
Pwnnadoes anyone know what tzdata does with openjdk7?21:14
Pwnnathere's a tzdata-java package but i dont quite understand what it's purpose is21:14
Pwnnathe build also has a flag to turn that off, too21:14
roadmrCarlFK: so I installed installation-guide-amd64, it has a sample preseed and it has some differences from yours, maybe that's why it barfs?21:14
roadmrCarlFK: you have d-i grub-installer/choose_bootdev   select  /dev/sdb21:15
roadmrCarlFK: the example shows something like d-i grub-installer/bootdev  string /dev/sdb21:15
sergiusenspitti reproduced locally as well http://paste.ubuntu.com/16208917/21:15
CarlFKroadmr: hmm... I am skeptical that string/select is the problem.  the dialog says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources"21:17
roadmrCarlFK: but it's more like choose_bootdev vs. bootdev21:18
CarlFKah, missed that21:18
roadmrCarlFK: also, if you want the linux-generic kernel, isn't that the default? maybe not setting that would work?21:18
roadmrCarlFK: I'm running a test with your preseeds and aside from 2 tiny fixes, it's going along just fine. not done yet though...21:19
cjwatsonstring/select cannot possibly be the problem21:19
sergiusenspitti this is the "script" http://paste.ubuntu.com/16208927/ ... to note is that if I manually create 'partial' it all works (I don't think I should though)21:19
roadmrCarlFK: (tweaks: removing your custom pre_cmd and pywxgtk 3.0 instead of 2.8)21:19
cjwatsonthat bit is totally informational21:19
CarlFKthose lines trying to set it is my trying to work around it ... I stared with not setting it21:19
CarlFKcjwatson: thanks.  and Hi!21:20
cjwatsonI'm not really here :)21:20
sergiusenspitti if python apt asks me for a "downloaddir" anything inside it should be its responsibility, right?21:20
sergiusensI don't want to create 'partial' and then have it fail because the dir exists ;-)21:20
roadmrcjwatson: thanks! any idea what could cause the "No installable kernel" assuming CarlFK has d-i mirror/http/hostname string archive.ubuntu.com and d-i mirror/http/directory string /ubuntu? (but also a d-i mirror/http/proxy string http://somethingsomething)21:20
roadmrohh... ghost colin!21:21
cjwatsonthat usually means the d-i build is out of sync with the kernel versions in the archive21:21
cjwatsonbut I can't tell just from that, would need to see the whole syslog21:21
cjwatsonand need to do kids' bedtime first21:21
roadmrcjwatson: enjoy your evening!21:22
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CarlFKroadmr:  all the flavors of grub bootdev are commented out, so that isn't it.21:38
CarlFKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16209123/  15629 lines of log as html.  is there a better way to post stuff like this?22:08
xnoxpitti, adt-run libpng --- lxd ubuntu:xenial fails for me, what am i doing wrong?22:13
pittixnox: what does it fail on?22:17
dokocjwatson, that's left from the ffmpeg transition tracker: ffmpegthumbs freshplayerplugin bombono-dvd alsa-plugins-extra pjproject survex22:24
Unit193Heh, freshplayerplugin was just uploaded to Debian today.22:24
naccCarlFK: roadmr: this seems like the underlying issue, right?22:26
nacc"--> SET base-installer/kernel/image linux-generic"22:26
nacc"<-- 10 base-installer/kernel/image doesn't exist"22:26
cjwatsondoko: I have the tracker open in a tab, no need to read it out to me :)22:26
nacccjwatson: --^ I guess they were asking you earlier22:27
CarlFKnacc: kinda.  if I don't preseed, it finds and installs a kernel.22:28
dokocjwatson, I wanted to say that the others are addressed22:30
naccCarlFK: which preseed file specifies linux-generic?22:33
CarlFKnacc: um.. nothing?  if something did, then it wouldn't stop and ask me.  I think.22:33
naccCarlFK: ah sorry, misunderstood earlier; so you are simply getting a "No installable kernel" message?22:34
CarlFKnacc: I didn't need it for wily.  "(03:51:45 PM) cyphermox: there were some changes in base-installer"22:34
CarlFKyea - "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources"22:34
cjwatsonCarlFK: that syslog seems to be truncated before what I would need.22:36
CarlFKcjwatson: hmm, you are right: carl@twist:~/mnt/cware1/d/cnt3/log$ wc syslog22:36
CarlFK  19255  163177 1284317 syslog22:36
cyphermoxCarlFK: there are missing lines in the pastebin22:38
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CarlFKlol - my racksapce uploader isn't python3 ... TypeError: attribute name must be string, not 'bytes'23:02
sarnoldzounds :)23:21
sarnoldheh, xz shrinks that to ~65K23:22
CarlFKI never know how much to cook stuff like this23:23
sarnoldyeah, tough choice23:23
sarnoldit was mostly my idle curiosity when I saw how reptitive it is, just how well it could compress.23:23
zygahow can I get a fix into libsdl1.2 into xeanial?23:25
dokozyga, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates23:26
nacczyga: file a bug?23:26
zyganacc: on the packge?23:26
dokozyga, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates23:26
Unit193sarnold: I got 60K. ;)23:27
nacczyga: yeah, you can use ubuntu-bug, iirc, or just use the luanchpad UI. the above links will help clarify if the fix you found satifies the SRU rules23:28
sarnoldUnit193: probably Kibibytes vs Kilobytes difference? :) 65552 bytes..23:28
Unit193sarnold: -9e, so 6124823:28
zygaso this doesn't qualify for SRU23:28
zygabut then without this nothing using SDL will work in snappy23:29
zygaI need some ideas23:29
sarnoldzyga: got a bug number?23:29
teward^ i was about to ask heh23:29
tewardsarnold: you aren't in my brain are you ;P23:29
sarnoldafternoon teward :)23:29
tewardgood evening, sarnold.23:30
sarnoldteward: heh, i'm not in -my- brain anyway, maybe my train of thought decided to take a vacation..23:30
zygasarnold: not yet, jush documenting the patch now23:30
zygathe patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16209626/23:31
nacczyga: is this a backport?23:32
zyganacc: no23:32
zyganacc: this is xenial libsdl1.223:32
sarnoldzyga: it feels sruable to me. note the spaces vs tabs.23:32
zygayeah, I just noticed, I'll fix that23:33
zygathough perhaps tomorrow, it almost 2AM for me :/23:33
zygaif anyone wants to help by picking that up and doing the paperwork that would be my deam come true23:33
zygathis makes SDL games work on snappy23:33
zygaspecifically scummvm and anything that uses it :)23:33
zygawith in-place edited tabs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16209644/23:34
cjwatsonCarlFK: ah.  sigh, the overlay stuff is buggy23:37
cjwatsonCarlFK: change your preseed of apt-setup/local0/repository from "http://ppa.launchpad.net/timvideos/fpga-support/ubuntu wily main" to "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/timvideos/fpga-support/ubuntu wily main"23:37
cjwatsonapt-setup allows both forms, base-installer only likes the latter23:37
CarlFKcjwatson: so just add deb in the front?23:38
cjwatsonregression from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/125093023:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1250930 in net-retriever (Ubuntu) "[d-i] merge in overlay archive support" [High,Fix released]23:38
CarlFKcool.  thanks!23:38
cjwatsonregression-ish anyway23:39
cjwatsonanyway the result of that bug was that apt was sufficiently sad that we couldn't get the list of available kernels out of it23:40
cjwatsonoh look it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/151234723:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1512347 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "invalid sources.list generated from reading apt-setup/local0/repository" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:41
cjwatsoncyphermox: ^- you might want to consider SRUing that for xenial?23:44
cjwatsonuploading for yakkety23:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1577986 in libsdl1.2 (Ubuntu) "SDL 1.2 crashes on snappy, breaks scummvm" [Undecided,New]23:44
sarnoldzyga: don't forget to update the dep-3 tags in the morning :)23:46
zygayeah I know23:46
zygaI'm super tired, time to EOD23:46
sarnoldhehe that mght have been a few hours ago :)23:46
sarnoldnight zyga23:46

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