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| Mirv | dobey: at some point yes, but qt 5.4 for vivid overlay and 5.6 for xenial overlay is higher priority than debugging what broke in yakkedy. I will first test how Qt 5.6 seems on yakkety, to see if it's different than the 5.5. | 04:57 |
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| Mirv | (also, sick lately and it seems today would become another such day argh) | 06:23 |
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| flexiondotorg | Morning | 07:57 |
| flexiondotorg | mdeslaur, If you have a moment I'd like to better understand how Firefox and Chromium compare with regard to how they are updated and receive security updates in Ubuntu. | 07:58 |
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| willcooke | barry, are you able to attend this session later? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22675/finish-move-to-py3/ | 08:31 |
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| mdeslaur | flexiondotorg: sure, what do you want to know? | 10:51 |
| flexiondotorg | mdeslaur, Is Chromium afforded the same attention as Firefox with regard to version updates and security updates? | 10:58 |
| mdeslaur | flexiondotorg: chromium is in universe, it's not officially supported. Since it's a popular package, we do have a developer doing updates. | 10:59 |
| mdeslaur | flexiondotorg: but it's best-effort only | 10:59 |
| mdeslaur | we're not currently able to publish every single update | 10:59 |
| flexiondotorg | mdeslaur, OK, that answers my question. | 11:00 |
| mdeslaur | and when new major versions come out, it takes a while before we're able to get it to build on all archs and publish it | 11:00 |
| flexiondotorg | I saw Kylin seed it. | 11:00 |
| mdeslaur | yes, a couple of flavours do seed it | 11:00 |
| flexiondotorg | mdeslaur, Thanks. I'll bes ticking with Firefox in the seeds then :-) | 11:00 |
| mdeslaur | that's what I would recommend, yes | 11:01 |
| flexiondotorg | If it were in main, I'd likely switch to Chromium for Ubuntu MATE. | 11:01 |
| pitti | Good morning | 11:39 |
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| dobey | Mirv: ok, but no idea why you're telling me about qt in yakkety :) | 13:22 |
| caribou | Laney: ping | 13:42 |
| caribou | Laney: I would need your help for LP: #1335068 | 13:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1335068 in trusty-backports "Please backport apache2 2.4.10-1ubuntu1 (main) from Utopic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1335068 | 13:43 |
| caribou | Laney: I think I've done all the testing I could | 13:43 |
| barry | willcooke: yes | 13:45 |
| willcooke | thanks barry | 13:46 |
| barry | willcooke: if my math is right, that's in about 1h10m, right? | 13:49 |
| willcooke | barry, yeah | 13:51 |
| barry | cool | 13:52 |
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| dholbach | willcooke, xnox: who of you is going to run the py3 session later on? | 14:05 |
| willcooke | dholbach, I can do it | 14:05 |
| dholbach | cool | 14:06 |
| Mirv | dobey: right, it was for doko :) | 14:29 |
| doko | Mirv, so what did you tell me? | 14:30 |
| Mirv | doko: first line at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/03/%23ubuntu-devel.txt . and this day turned into sick leave then too but eventually, there shall be progress... | 14:31 |
| xnox | barry, will you make the py3 only session? | 14:35 |
| barry | xnox: i'm already there. :) | 14:35 |
| xnox | barry, it's in half an hour? or is it now now? | 14:36 |
| barry | xnox: oh, yeah 23m. i'm an irc early bird :) | 14:37 |
| xnox | barry, which channel? | 14:37 |
| barry | xnox: #ubuntu-uos-core. i'm in the summit session but i guess the live hangout url will be posted closer to session start | 14:38 |
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| LocutusOfBorg | hi, can anybody please make "tar" migrate (aka do you think we can ignore lava-* testsuite failure? I think we should) | 15:08 |
| zyga | we use lava in ubuntu? wow | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | zyga, to keep the tar fluid obviously :) | 15:14 |
| zyga | lol | 15:14 |
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| LocutusOfBorg | infinity, ^^ wrt tar migration | 15:32 |
| LocutusOfBorg | thanks < | 15:32 |
| LocutusOfBorg | <3 | 15:32 |
| hallyn | doko: hey - was there a specific blocking problem which caused you to multi-arch-ify libvirt0? | 15:55 |
| hallyn | Asking to try and decide how to justify pushing the patch to debian | 15:55 |
| doko | hallyn, is there a reason not to multiarchify? also it's already forwarded: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813062 | 15:56 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 813062 in src:libvirt "please multiarchify the library packages" [Normal,Open] | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | it's 2016. multiarching a library shouldn't require justification | 15:56 |
| hallyn | doko: oh, ok, thx | 15:57 |
| hallyn | cjwatson: <shrug> there was a very nasty lp bug reporter complaining about it | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | *not* multiarching should require a justification :) | 15:57 |
| hallyn | bc he then went on to install from upstream and it installed in /usr/lib/ and messed him up | 15:57 |
| hallyn | doko: cool, thanks :) | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | all sorts of reasons why that sort of thing might break confusingly ... | 15:57 |
| hallyn | cjwatson: no kidding. | 15:58 |
| hallyn | but then i was wondering why debian hadn't yet, | 15:58 |
| hallyn | well, mind you, for libvirt in particular i'm really not sure having two versions sitting around makes sense. | 15:58 |
| doko | hallyn, but I wanted a /usr/lib without .so files, which should be true for the cloud and desktop images. yeah, that's not a reasonable goal, I agree ;) | 15:58 |
| doko | hallyn, people who explicitly configure with --prefix=/usr should know that they can break things | 15:59 |
| pitti | smoser: printf "lxc.aa_profile=unconfined\nlxc.seccomp=" | lxc profile set default raw.lxc - | 16:21 |
| pitti | smoser: bug 1577844 | 16:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1577844 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "don't run ifup@.service before networking.service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577844 | 16:29 |
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| nneul | Did something weird happen with security updates very recently for libssl1.0.0? | 17:34 |
| nneul | Seeing something where it looks like I got a -4.1 update from security for 16.04, but now it's not there, and causing all sorts of dependency headaches. | 17:34 |
| nneul | argh. looks like mirroring script is screwing up somehow. | 17:38 |
| hallyn | well this probably isn't good... http://paste.ubuntu.com/16206598/ (apport giving "Error('Incorrect padding',)") | 18:15 |
| hallyn | on a curl crash report | 18:16 |
| hallyn | to do with libtls | 18:16 |
| hallyn | on a day when we have openssl security updates | 18:16 |
| * hallyn should just unplug all the cables and stop for the day | 18:16 | |
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| doko | cjwatson, did you omit some uploads for ffmpeg rdeps by intent? | 19:20 |
| cjwatson | doko: yes, I wanted to look more closely at the ones that already had ubuntuN modifications | 19:47 |
| cjwatson | I'll get round to it :) | 19:47 |
| doko | pitti, these packages have failing autopkg tests blocking the json-c transition: upstart python-astropy fwts vtk6 vtk mir | 19:50 |
| CarlFK | roadmr: is this something you can help with? (u-installer went quiet) debconf: --> PROGRESS INFO base-installer/section/pick_kernel ... base-installer: info: Found kernels '' | 19:56 |
| CarlFK | dialog "no kernels will be installed." | 19:57 |
| Logan | nacc: is it safe to sync over your bootstrapping deltas for PHP packages that use phpunit? or would you prefer that those changes be forwarded to Debian? | 19:57 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: ugh? is this a server or desktop install? could you share your preseed? | 19:57 |
| CarlFK | roadmr: netboot installer, https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/tree/master/setup/nodes/pxe/shaz/var/www/d-i/xenial | 19:58 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: let me try running that locally, may be a bit slow as I'm on a call heh | 19:58 |
| CarlFK | those files worked on wily, but you guys keep developing new features :p | 19:59 |
| nacc | Logan: it's on my todo to forward to debian this week or next | 20:00 |
| Logan | ok sounds good | 20:01 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: hehe :) need to keep breaking things, else there's nothing to fix | 20:01 |
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| sergiusens | slangasek I ask Martin Pitt already, but maybe you know https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-yakkety/yakkety/amd64/s/snapcraft/20160503_163410@/log.gz | 20:33 |
| sergiusens | slangasek I get those for every yakkety push (it's python apt based code). Martin thinks it might be libapt | 20:33 |
| pitti | no, I was saying it looks like it fails in apt, not in python-apt | 20:34 |
| sergiusens | pitti oh, I didn't want to wake you :-) | 20:34 |
| pitti | the URLs look oddly corrupted, though | 20:34 |
| sergiusens | pitti right, did I say the same thing incorrectly? | 20:34 |
| pitti | sergiusens: no, not really, I just meant it's not necessarily a bug in apt itself | 20:35 |
| pitti | just that I think it's very unlikely to be a bug in python-apt | 20:35 |
| sergiusens | right, I would agree | 20:36 |
| pitti | might be anywhere between some odd testbed setup failure or some weird fallout from -fPIE (as it only happens on amd64 and it works on xenial) | 20:36 |
| pitti | I didn't see other apt failures on amd64 which look similar, but this is using apt with some temporary APTROOT, right? | 20:36 |
| pitti | but apport's tests do that too, and that works | 20:37 |
| pitti | sergiusens: so I guess in short, no real idea -- this needs reproducing and investigating locally | 20:37 |
| pitti | sergiusens: do you get this locally in qemu/lxc? | 20:37 |
| sergiusens | pitti yup, apt_cache = apt.Cache(rootdir=rootdir, memonly=True) | 20:38 |
| sergiusens | pitti I need to redo my lxc image sources, I don't see yakkety images on the public server | 20:39 |
| pitti | pool/main/p/python-\nsetuptools | 20:39 |
| pitti | parts/spongeshaker/ubuntu/do\nwnload | 20:39 |
| pitti | there are a lot of those spurious \n | 20:40 |
| sergiusens | pitti those error messages are broken, don't be lead off track by that; that is just a combination of dedent and that test collection thing I forget the name of | 20:40 |
| sergiusens | pitti the ones in the middle should be easier to read (integration tests) | 20:41 |
| sergiusens | the example ones will spit messages out like that | 20:42 |
| sergiusens | pitti subunit is the word I was missing | 20:43 |
| sergiusens | pitti any idea how to lxc launch a yakkety image? | 20:44 |
| pitti | sergiusens: images.linuxcontainers.org has had yakkety for several days now | 20:45 |
| pitti | sergiusens: adt-build-lxd images:ubuntu/yakkety/amd64 | 20:46 |
| pitti | adt-run ... --- lxd adt/ubuntu/yakkety/amd64 | 20:46 |
| sergiusens | pitti ah, it does! sorry, was looking at ubuntu-daily: | 20:46 |
| pitti | sergiusens: yeah, no cloud images yet, and they are also a bit impractical for testing | 20:46 |
| sergiusens | pitti thanks, yeah I just want to write some micro python code to see if I see the issue | 20:47 |
| ginggs | xnox: sorry i missed your boost patch in debian's svn. Here's another that might be useful https://github.com/boostorg/graph/commit/6197b9c54932f161806ac6fb28344f6e245c7891 (gentoo are carrying it) | 21:00 |
| slangasek | sergiusens: no idea on that, no | 21:13 |
| Pwnna | does anyone know what tzdata does with openjdk7? | 21:14 |
| Pwnna | there's a tzdata-java package but i dont quite understand what it's purpose is | 21:14 |
| Pwnna | the build also has a flag to turn that off, too | 21:14 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: so I installed installation-guide-amd64, it has a sample preseed and it has some differences from yours, maybe that's why it barfs? | 21:14 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: you have d-i grub-installer/choose_bootdev select /dev/sdb | 21:15 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: the example shows something like d-i grub-installer/bootdev string /dev/sdb | 21:15 |
| sergiusens | pitti reproduced locally as well http://paste.ubuntu.com/16208917/ | 21:15 |
| CarlFK | roadmr: hmm... I am skeptical that string/select is the problem. the dialog says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" | 21:17 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: but it's more like choose_bootdev vs. bootdev | 21:18 |
| CarlFK | ah, missed that | 21:18 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: also, if you want the linux-generic kernel, isn't that the default? maybe not setting that would work? | 21:18 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: I'm running a test with your preseeds and aside from 2 tiny fixes, it's going along just fine. not done yet though... | 21:19 |
| cjwatson | string/select cannot possibly be the problem | 21:19 |
| sergiusens | pitti this is the "script" http://paste.ubuntu.com/16208927/ ... to note is that if I manually create 'partial' it all works (I don't think I should though) | 21:19 |
| roadmr | CarlFK: (tweaks: removing your custom pre_cmd and pywxgtk 3.0 instead of 2.8) | 21:19 |
| cjwatson | that bit is totally informational | 21:19 |
| CarlFK | those lines trying to set it is my trying to work around it ... I stared with not setting it | 21:19 |
| cjwatson | (FWIW) | 21:19 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: thanks. and Hi! | 21:20 |
| cjwatson | I'm not really here :) | 21:20 |
| sergiusens | pitti if python apt asks me for a "downloaddir" anything inside it should be its responsibility, right? | 21:20 |
| CarlFK | Shhh | 21:20 |
| sergiusens | I don't want to create 'partial' and then have it fail because the dir exists ;-) | 21:20 |
| roadmr | cjwatson: thanks! any idea what could cause the "No installable kernel" assuming CarlFK has d-i mirror/http/hostname string archive.ubuntu.com and d-i mirror/http/directory string /ubuntu? (but also a d-i mirror/http/proxy string http://somethingsomething) | 21:20 |
| roadmr | ohh... ghost colin! | 21:21 |
| cjwatson | that usually means the d-i build is out of sync with the kernel versions in the archive | 21:21 |
| cjwatson | but I can't tell just from that, would need to see the whole syslog | 21:21 |
| cjwatson | and need to do kids' bedtime first | 21:21 |
| roadmr | cjwatson: enjoy your evening! | 21:22 |
| roadmr | brb | 21:27 |
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| CarlFK | roadmr: all the flavors of grub bootdev are commented out, so that isn't it. | 21:38 |
| CarlFK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/16209123/ 15629 lines of log as html. is there a better way to post stuff like this? | 22:08 |
| xnox | pitti, adt-run libpng --- lxd ubuntu:xenial fails for me, what am i doing wrong? | 22:13 |
| pitti | xnox: what does it fail on? | 22:17 |
| doko | cjwatson, that's left from the ffmpeg transition tracker: ffmpegthumbs freshplayerplugin bombono-dvd alsa-plugins-extra pjproject survex | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | Heh, freshplayerplugin was just uploaded to Debian today. | 22:24 |
| nacc | CarlFK: roadmr: this seems like the underlying issue, right? | 22:26 |
| nacc | "--> SET base-installer/kernel/image linux-generic" | 22:26 |
| nacc | "<-- 10 base-installer/kernel/image doesn't exist" | 22:26 |
| cjwatson | doko: I have the tracker open in a tab, no need to read it out to me :) | 22:26 |
| nacc | cjwatson: --^ I guess they were asking you earlier | 22:27 |
| CarlFK | nacc: kinda. if I don't preseed, it finds and installs a kernel. | 22:28 |
| doko | cjwatson, I wanted to say that the others are addressed | 22:30 |
| nacc | CarlFK: which preseed file specifies linux-generic? | 22:33 |
| CarlFK | nacc: um.. nothing? if something did, then it wouldn't stop and ask me. I think. | 22:33 |
| nacc | CarlFK: ah sorry, misunderstood earlier; so you are simply getting a "No installable kernel" message? | 22:34 |
| CarlFK | nacc: I didn't need it for wily. "(03:51:45 PM) cyphermox: there were some changes in base-installer" | 22:34 |
| CarlFK | yea - "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" | 22:34 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: that syslog seems to be truncated before what I would need. | 22:36 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: hmm, you are right: carl@twist:~/mnt/cware1/d/cnt3/log$ wc syslog | 22:36 |
| CarlFK | 19255 163177 1284317 syslog | 22:36 |
| cyphermox | CarlFK: there are missing lines in the pastebin | 22:38 |
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| CarlFK | lol - my racksapce uploader isn't python3 ... TypeError: attribute name must be string, not 'bytes' | 23:02 |
| CarlFK | http://img.flnet.org/a/syslog | 23:20 |
| sarnold | zounds :) | 23:21 |
| sarnold | heh, xz shrinks that to ~65K | 23:22 |
| CarlFK | I never know how much to cook stuff like this | 23:23 |
| sarnold | yeah, tough choice | 23:23 |
| sarnold | it was mostly my idle curiosity when I saw how reptitive it is, just how well it could compress. | 23:23 |
| zyga | how can I get a fix into libsdl1.2 into xeanial? | 23:25 |
| doko | zyga, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 23:26 |
| nacc | zyga: file a bug? | 23:26 |
| zyga | nacc: on the packge? | 23:26 |
| doko | zyga, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 23:26 |
| zyga | thanks | 23:26 |
| Unit193 | sarnold: I got 60K. ;) | 23:27 |
| nacc | zyga: yeah, you can use ubuntu-bug, iirc, or just use the luanchpad UI. the above links will help clarify if the fix you found satifies the SRU rules | 23:28 |
| sarnold | Unit193: probably Kibibytes vs Kilobytes difference? :) 65552 bytes.. | 23:28 |
| zyga | hmm | 23:28 |
| Unit193 | sarnold: -9e, so 61248 | 23:28 |
| zyga | so this doesn't qualify for SRU | 23:28 |
| sarnold | ahhh | 23:29 |
| zyga | but then without this nothing using SDL will work in snappy | 23:29 |
| zyga | I need some ideas | 23:29 |
| sarnold | zyga: got a bug number? | 23:29 |
| teward | ^ i was about to ask heh | 23:29 |
| teward | sarnold: you aren't in my brain are you ;P | 23:29 |
| sarnold | afternoon teward :) | 23:29 |
| teward | good evening, sarnold. | 23:30 |
| sarnold | teward: heh, i'm not in -my- brain anyway, maybe my train of thought decided to take a vacation.. | 23:30 |
| teward | lol | 23:30 |
| zyga | sarnold: not yet, jush documenting the patch now | 23:30 |
| zyga | the patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16209626/ | 23:31 |
| nacc | zyga: is this a backport? | 23:32 |
| zyga | nacc: no | 23:32 |
| zyga | nacc: this is xenial libsdl1.2 | 23:32 |
| sarnold | zyga: it feels sruable to me. note the spaces vs tabs. | 23:32 |
| zyga | yeah, I just noticed, I'll fix that | 23:33 |
| zyga | though perhaps tomorrow, it almost 2AM for me :/ | 23:33 |
| zyga | if anyone wants to help by picking that up and doing the paperwork that would be my deam come true | 23:33 |
| zyga | this makes SDL games work on snappy | 23:33 |
| zyga | specifically scummvm and anything that uses it :) | 23:33 |
| zyga | with in-place edited tabs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16209644/ | 23:34 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: ah. sigh, the overlay stuff is buggy | 23:37 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: change your preseed of apt-setup/local0/repository from "http://ppa.launchpad.net/timvideos/fpga-support/ubuntu wily main" to "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/timvideos/fpga-support/ubuntu wily main" | 23:37 |
| cjwatson | apt-setup allows both forms, base-installer only likes the latter | 23:37 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: so just add deb in the front? | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | yes | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | regression from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/1250930 | 23:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1250930 in net-retriever (Ubuntu) "[d-i] merge in overlay archive support" [High,Fix released] | 23:38 |
| CarlFK | cool. thanks! | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | regression-ish anyway | 23:39 |
| CarlFK | lol | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | anyway the result of that bug was that apt was sufficiently sad that we couldn't get the list of available kernels out of it | 23:40 |
| cjwatson | oh look it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/1512347 | 23:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1512347 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "invalid sources.list generated from reading apt-setup/local0/repository" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:41 |
| cjwatson | cyphermox: ^- you might want to consider SRUing that for xenial? | 23:44 |
| cjwatson | uploading for yakkety | 23:44 |
| zyga | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/1577986 | 23:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1577986 in libsdl1.2 (Ubuntu) "SDL 1.2 crashes on snappy, breaks scummvm" [Undecided,New] | 23:44 |
| sarnold | zyga: don't forget to update the dep-3 tags in the morning :) | 23:46 |
| zyga | yeah I know | 23:46 |
| zyga | I'm super tired, time to EOD | 23:46 |
| sarnold | hehe that mght have been a few hours ago :) | 23:46 |
| sarnold | night zyga | 23:46 |
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