cyphermoxxnox: I went back and took a good look at the d-i overlay stuff and it works as expected, provided that you also set debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true. that probably should become a default if it's not preseeded and overlay is enabled.03:03
cyphermox(or something)03:03
cjwatsoncyphermox: or "deb [trusted=yes] ..." on just that source08:49
CarlFKpreseed install, files work for wily, but not for xenial, I get: May  3 05:58:31 debconf: --> INPUT critical partman-target/no_root14:03
cyphermoxcjwatson: yeah, but we were thinking specifically for the installer, not for the end system14:09
cyphermoxthanks though, I didn't know you could do that. I only knew of the arch= bits.14:10
cyphermoxCarlFK: can you share your preseed?14:10
CarlFKcyphermox: working on that now14:11
cjwatsoncyphermox: Hm, I think even so it's worth taking some measures to avoid losing authentication of other sources even during installation14:11
cjwatsoncyphermox: After all, if you get owned during installation it's game over right from the start14:11
cyphermoxso you mean just not default debian-installer/use_unauth... if you're enabling the overlay?14:12
cyphermoxI don't know that we have per-sources control of this stuff right now14:13
cjwatsonThat would seem like a very scary change to me.14:13
cyphermoxie. can't just say, unauthenticated source just for the overlay14:13
cjwatsonI think you should make a strong effort not to do that.14:13
cyphermoxof course, that *can* be fixed14:13
cjwatsonIt would be easy enough to add such a thing.14:14
cjwatsonIs it needed unconditionally for the overlay?14:14
cyphermoxit's one trivial debconf key away from working14:14
cyphermoxnot necessarily no14:14
cyphermoxI was thinking out loud more than suggesting a change14:14
cyphermoxotoh, to have an authenticated overlay you need to install your archive keys in d-i somehow14:15
cyphermoxbut rolling your own d-i image is pretty easy anyway14:15
cyphermoxcjwatson: I thought you said you were working on a complicated upstream merge for grub2; did you have time to finish that?14:16
cjwatsonI was, but it's still in my working tree14:17
cjwatsonIs it urgent?  I was assuming it just needed to be in the next few weeks or so in order that it's in plenty of time for 16.1014:17
cyphermoxnot, not urgent, just wondering14:20
cyphermoxI'm trying to wrap my head around some of the things that need to get done, and I was reminded of the ZFS patches14:20
xnoxcyphermox, well, ppas are signed it can be authenticated14:35
cyphermoxxnox: yes, you just need to build your own d-i image including the key14:36
xnoxhm, i saw people trying to fetch the key.14:37
xnoxor does that not work at all?14:38
CarlFKcyphermox: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/nodes/pxe/shaz/var/www/d-i/xenial/preseed_disk.cfg14:39
CarlFKcyphermox: my whole install setup gets copied and tweaked each release, so if you see things that are no longer relevant.. that's why.14:40
cyphermoxCarlFK: is that not missing d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic ?14:41
cyphermoxor, picking some recipe14:41
CarlFKcyphermox: um.. do I need it? ;)14:41
CarlFKadded, re-running14:42
CarlFKcyphermox: same error14:46
cyphermoxare you netbooting then?14:59
xnoxalways =)14:59
xnoxs390x =)14:59
cyphermoxxnox: that was for CarlFK15:04
cyphermoxor are you both doing s390x?15:04
CarlFKcyphermox: netboot yes, s390.. what?15:04
cyphermoxright, that's what I thought :)15:05
CarlFKcyphermox: oh, you don't have my syslog, want it?15:05
cyphermoxsure, I can look up cmdline there15:05
cyphermoxthe other thing I can think of is that when netbooting new releases (assuming you were doing trusty before), you now should usually pass a net-image15:05
cyphermoxie. prebuild root filesystem to use15:06
cyphermoxthat is d-i live-installer/net-image string http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/xenial-server-amd64.squashfs  for example15:06
cyphermoxexcept not that one, since that was a daily :)15:06
CarlFKcyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16202597/15:13
CarlFKcyphermox: I was doing wily15:13
cyphermoxdidn't set choose_recipe?15:20
CarlFKum... I see it on my server: d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic15:27
CarlFKbut it somehow didn't end up in git...  let me do this all again..15:27
CarlFKcyphermox: github and what I am using are in sync. still broken.  https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/nodes/pxe/shaz/var/www/d-i/xenial/preseed_disk.cfg#L316:06
cyphermoxseems to do the right thing here.16:09
CarlFKcyphermox: using my files, or that line in your files?16:10
cyphermoxwell, a copy of your file16:10
cyphermoxI just moved the entries around now, but it seemed to work before that too; perhaps I can try it again16:12
CarlFKcyphermox: hold up..16:13
cyphermoxthat said, like I mentioned before, it depends a lot on what you're using to start the installer16:13
CarlFKthe box doesn't have sda, so I change it to sdb with a boot param, so I need to pull # d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda16:16
cyphermoxyeah, that may help16:17
CarlFKcyphermox: "installing base system..."   yay.  Thank you16:22
cyphermoxI did so much :P16:22
CarlFKchoose_recipe select atomic ... didn't need that for wily, I guess it was the default. in case that matters.16:26
CarlFKnext up: May  3 16:24:36 debconf: --> PROGRESS INFO base-installer/section/pick_kernel16:30
CarlFKMay  3 16:24:36 base-installer: info: Found kernels ''16:30
CarlFKI think i need something like: base-installer  base-installer/kernel/image     select  linux-generic16:31
cyphermoxCarlFK: I'm not sure you should have to go pick the kernels yourself; it should ask you for it if it's missing20:50
cyphermox(except when you want a fully automated install, then you obviously need to preseed it)20:50
CarlFKcyphermox: well..  it used to do something good in wily. so I think a default fell into a crack20:51
cyphermoxthere were some changes in base-installer20:51
CarlFK... base-installer/section/pick_kernel20:52
cyphermoxsure, but base-installer would always have asked you for what kernel you want if it can't otherwise figure it out automatically20:54
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CarlFKcyphermox: check #u-devel, cjwatson found it: (06:40:54 PM) cjwatson: anyway the result of that bug was that apt was sufficiently sad that we couldn't get the list of available kernels out of it23:52

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