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[17:52] <bzoltan_> hi folks
[17:52] <bzoltan_> popey:  will you set up the HO?
[17:53] <bzoltan_> hello davidcalle
[17:54] <bzoltan_> just give me the HO, I can start at any time
[17:54] <popey> \o/
[17:54] <popey> thanks davidcalle
[17:54] <davidcalle> bzoltan_: hey!
[17:54] <davidcalle> popey: thank you ;)
[17:55] <bzoltan_> davidcalle:  and this is the deck i will do - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1m05DdWJ4Q4jEhnx0g-41sS1eXA2ELoRYKlRHkV7B2s0/edit#slide=id.ge709b1dc0_3_25
[17:57] <davidcalle> bzoltan_: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYde719is3-eYbNibsFXFAsmkckAiXBk0mP4p2qVaBpft-Q0BA?hl=en&authuser=1
[17:57] <davidcalle> faenil: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYde719is3-eYbNibsFXFAsmkckAiXBk0mP4p2qVaBpft-Q0BA?hl=en&authuser=1
[17:57] <davidcalle> And anyone interested in joining of course ^
[18:00] <davidcalle> We'll start in two min o/
[18:01] <bzoltan_> timp: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1m05DdWJ4Q4jEhnx0g-41sS1eXA2ELoRYKlRHkV7B2s0/edit#slide=id.ge709b1dc0_3_25
[18:05] <zsombi> hello guys, we're trying to get on air, Google doesn't let us do that yet...
[18:06]  * nik90 waits patiently
[18:07] <davidcalle> popey: still around? For some reason, the on air button is insensitive for me, any hints?
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[18:10] <davidcalle> mhall119: ? ^
[18:10] <davidcalle> dpm: ? ^
[18:10] <dpm> davidcalle, what's the issue? No broadcast possible?
[18:10] <davidcalle> dpm: yes
[18:10] <bzoltan_> dpm:  we are still offline
[18:11] <dpm> davidcalle, you are running the hangout?
[18:11] <dpm> popey, can you jump in, or are you in another session?
[18:11] <davidcalle> dpm: I am
[18:12]  * dpm tries to start a hangout himself
[18:12] <mhall119> davidcalle: are you the one who created the hangout?
[18:12] <davidcalle> mhall119: yes
[18:13] <mhall119> we've had this randomly in the past, starting a new hangout usually fixes it
[18:13]  * nik90 is hoping for the SDK LXD reveal
[18:14] <popey> sorry, missed the ping, am in an irc session
[18:15] <davidcalle> New hangout https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfyN2ul0HTYyd2nh3JTlhSicyAy731lw5lR8zuggNnBrz3c7A?hl=en&authuser=1
[18:15] <popey> s/irc/other/
[18:15] <dpm> davidcalle, I do get the button
[18:15] <davidcalle> dpm: same :)
[18:15] <dpm> ah, cool
[18:16] <timp> yay
[18:16] <timp> we should be live now
[18:16] <nik90> you're live
[18:16] <nik90> hurray
[18:21] <Blin> Anyone know, if I want to programing for Ubuntu I have to use only QT Creator? QT Creator is not good choice for working. Will Ubuntu-SDK as module for other frameworks? I use CLion, and it's better framework
[18:24] <Blin> I think programist must have a choice
[18:24] <faenil> in the ideal world... yeah... :(
[18:24] <bzoltan_> bring on QUESTIONs if you have
[18:24] <faenil> Blin: you don't have to use QtCreator fwiw...you can do everything via cmdline as well
[18:25] <faenil> but developing plugins for other IDEs requires some effort that could be better spent on things like improving features and performance of the components...
[18:25] <Blin> but Ubuntu-SDK for QT Creator
[18:25] <bzoltan_> Blin: you are free to use your favourite IDE
[18:25] <bzoltan_> Blin:  but your milage might be longer if you stick to cli and vi/emacs :)
[18:26] <timp> Blin: it does work, but the support may be less than for qtc
[18:26] <bzoltan_> Blin:  also QtCreator is the official and most supported, native IDE for Qt and QML development. Nothing beats QtCreator when it comes to Qt/QML development.
[18:26] <timp> as in the other sessions, prefix your questions that you want us to answer in the video with QUESTION:
[18:28] <Blin> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu-SDK as module for other frameworks or support other frameworks?
[18:29] <Blin> For example CLIon
[18:31] <nik90> QUESTION: Is Ubuntu.Components 1.3 stable? In other words, can we expect API changes? Do you recommend app devs to use 1.3 or 1.2?
[18:31] <timp> nik90: here is your reveal ;)
[18:31] <nik90> bzoltan_, YES!
[18:33] <DanChapman> lxd! \o/ been using it successfully the last few days!
[18:34] <faenil> nik90: ^ :D
[18:36] <nik90> QUESTION: With LXD, do you provide a Unity8 environment within which app devs run their app to check if it works correctly?
[18:36] <nik90> QUESTION: What's the timeframe for LXD support?
[18:37] <nik90> QUESTION: So when I update the LXD container, would I continously get the latest API updates regardless of which host version I am using...(big fan of LTS) ? Can you explain a little more on how the LXD stuff works?
[18:39] <miv0ligo> QUESTION: I updated my computer to 16.04 and I don't have "Ubuntu SDK Desktop Kit" any longer just "Desktop" when selecting a kit. How can I "install" the "Ubuntu SDK Desktop Kit"?
[18:39] <faenil> miv0ligo: make sure you still have ubuntu-sdk-dev
[18:39] <nik90> timp, you can hide the slides now ;)
[18:42] <miv0ligo> faenil: I don't have that, hmmmmm
[18:42] <faenil> miv0ligo: that's the Ubuntu SDK Desktop Kit afair
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[18:43] <timp> nik90: yes, for example I've been testing vivid+overlay in an lxd container with a xenial host
[18:44] <miv0ligo> faenil: thanks, I'll try to install it later on, BTW I don't see a mention about it on  https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/11/19/here-comes-brand-new-ubuntu-sdk-ide-tools/
[18:46] <nik90> QUESTION: Can I install additional packages required by an app within the LXD images? The Ubuntu Desktop Kit is very limited since it doesn't have dependencies that I need
[18:46] <sbt_> QUESTION: If the UITK is included in the platform snap, so the app snaps does not have to include it itself? Will Qt also be in the platform snap then, or did I misunderstand that?
[18:46] <faenil> for the ones who dare playing with the experimental stuff https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/experimental
[18:48] <bzoltan_> nik90:  i will answer it in a sec
[18:51] <timp> nik90: yes: lxc exec yourimagename apt install my-package
[18:54] <sbt_> okay, that sounds good, thanks for the answer :)
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[18:56] <davidcalle> Thanks for watching!
[19:08] <sbt> that looks really nice!
[19:09] <Amar2> looks brilliant
[19:09] <faenil> it looks gorgeous :)
[19:09]  * sbt wants a tablet now :P
[19:11] <popey> me too!
[19:12] <Amar2> a small bubble could appear
[19:13] <Amar2> when you hover
[19:13] <faenil> +1
[19:13] <faenil> to popey
[19:14] <miv0ligo> Amar2: how do you hover on a touch screen :P
[19:14] <cm-t> suggestion: is there a way to get the wikipedia or anything to put in the backgrounf of that header/bubble's popup, anything to show how the place looks like ?
[19:14] <Amar2> good point! lol
[19:14] <cm-t> the wikipedia image of the place
[19:14] <Amar2> I dont have one of these tablets unfortunately
[19:14] <cm-t> wikiplace, can't remember the wiki* to geet it
[19:15] <cm-t> no sure i make sense
[19:16] <Amar2> cm-t you mean a bit it is in google maps ?
[19:16] <Amar2> images of locations
[19:17] <cm-t> Amar2: oh, right, google maps already does that, but my inspiration went from scopes :)
[19:17] <cm-t> Amar2: but you are right, google map do it well, that 's the feature i was trying to describe
[19:18] <Amar2> still a good suggestion though, an image (or images) could fit in that white sidebar
[19:20] <miv0ligo> popey's voice :D
[19:20] <Amar2> that would be fun
[19:21] <cm-t> I might not understand when i'm listening the ubuntu podcast and my road map
[19:21] <cm-t> or ubuntu on air
[19:22] <miv0ligo> I think his picture should appear on the screen when giving directions
[19:22] <cm-t> ahah
[19:27] <cm-t> could the voice be imported from that mycroft thing where you can 'donate" your voice such as popey example in the video ?
[19:27] <miv0ligo> maybe option to download additional voices when the app is already installed
[19:28] <miv0ligo> QUESTION: is there any chance uNav would work offline in future?
[19:28] <cm-t> QUESTION ↑
[19:30] <Amar2> QUESTION: Are they any plans to integrate Mycroft into uNav?
[19:31] <cm-t> a skill from mycroft would be open a position url with unav
[19:31] <cm-t> Amar2: ↑
[19:32] <Amar2> haha
[19:32] <cm-t> QUESTION: (not sure about the licencing issue) could a voice be imported from vocalid (as seen on mycrof, if i am right, popey ) ?
[19:33] <costales_> @cm-t you'll can download voices from another users :)
[19:33] <costales_> from a github repository
[19:33] <popey> cm-t: I don't know what license mycroft / vocalid have negotiated
[19:34] <cm-t> thanks
[19:36] <miv0ligo> QUESTION: can uNav show other Ubuntu users?
[19:36] <cm-t> uNav as a social network :)
[19:37] <Amar2> that would be great
[19:37] <cm-t> QUESTION: miv0ligo talk about ubuntu users layout, but what about road traffic and other stuff ?
[19:38] <costales_> http://opentraffic.io/
[19:39] <Amar2> thanks for the session
[19:39] <cm-t> thanks o/
[19:39] <miv0ligo> thanks guys, great session!
[19:39] <popey> Thanks everyone!
[19:39] <costales_> :)
[19:39] <costales_> thanks to all of you :)
[19:40] <cm-t> i forgot to ask, costales_
[19:40] <nik90> thanks everyone!
[19:40] <costales_> what Rudy :)
[19:40] <cm-t> last update of unav_donate, was it only about the logo, or should i search for aother easteregg :) ?
[19:40] <costales_> xD it's offline now (LOL)
[19:40] <costales_> the message :)
[19:40] <cm-t> haha, nice :)
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