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| JamesJM | o/ | 12:56 |
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| alecu | hello! | 13:56 |
| _cyball_ | hi :) | 13:56 |
| JamesJM | o/ | 13:57 |
| olli| | dpm, got a link for me? | 13:58 |
| dragos | Im on a phone | 13:58 |
| _cyball_ | does the stream work? mine is still black .. it says stream will start shortly ... | 13:59 |
| kyrofa | _cyball_, not live yet | 13:59 |
| JamesJM | Still 30 seconds to go... ;-) | 13:59 |
| CheeseBurg | Hey! Did I miss much? | 14:05 |
| mhall119 | CheeseBurg: nope, just started | 14:05 |
| om26er | mhall119, I can't find the link, where is it ? | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | om26er: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22663/ubuntu-online-summit-opening-plenary/ | 14:06 |
| justCarakas | QUESTION why are all the photos of the Pro 5 in black and is it only available for sale in ugly gold ? | 14:12 |
| olli| | justCarakas, not sure if the other colors sold out already | 14:15 |
| olli| | let me check | 14:15 |
| inetpro | hi everyone | 14:16 |
| inetpro | could someone please change this channel's topic to include the link http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/2016-05-03 | 14:16 |
| mhall119 | inetpro: there should be bots handling that, I've pinged the IRC team to see if they need a poke | 14:18 |
| justCarakas | @oLLi| From what I can see there is only a golden 32 Meizu PRO 5 ubuntu edition | 14:18 |
| sergiusens | \o/ I hope that means we finally get auto backup for photos! | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | high hopes :) | 14:21 |
| dpm | :) | 14:21 |
| kyrofa | sergiusens, that barely works with the owncloud app on android :P | 14:21 |
| kyrofa | Though maybe the most recent release improved it... | 14:22 |
| sergiusens | kyrofa well now I would prefer backing up to amazon photos as I have it for free and unused :-) | 14:22 |
| kyrofa | sergiusens, huh, I didn't know about that one actually | 14:22 |
| sergiusens | kyrofa free for prime members ;-) | 14:23 |
| olli| | justCarakas, it seems to be the only option at this point, not sure what the context is, sorry | 14:23 |
| mhall119 | multi-window webbrowser-app \o/ | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | pfft, who needs that | 14:23 |
| justCarakas | it sucks, its keeping me from actualy buying the phone and canonical and meizu are ignoring my tweets about it | 14:23 |
| * ogra_ prefers multiple webapps instead ... each in its own confinement :) | 14:23 | |
| sergiusens | ogra_ well, I have to switch tabs to go from my irc tab to the onair one ;-) | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: I hope it means we can have one normal and one private window open at the same time | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, use my kiwi-irc app :) | 14:24 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ I can't get that to work on the desktop; a webapp open the browser and keeps the icon | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | useful for web dev | 14:24 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ I'm on desktop ubuntu (xenial) and I snap install[ed] shout ;-) | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, so roll a snap for the clisnt side too ... using a webapp-container | 14:25 |
| fusel | ogra_: wouldn't private especially benefit from being an extra app that has less privileges? if eg. it drops access to the normal browsing data on disk | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | *client | 14:25 |
| mhall119 | fusel: the browser already doesn't have access to data on disk, it goes through ContentHub for that | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | fusel, for sure ... thats the reason why i prefer webapps ... a private window of the same browser app still shares bits and pieces | 14:26 |
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| ogra_ | mhall119, well ... it has shared space that all tabs can use | 14:26 |
| fusel | mhall119: it has access to its own data, such as cookies and browsing history, which shouldn't be used ever in private browsing | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | right | 14:26 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ I have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/16202003/ | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, yeah | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | fusel: ah,I see | 14:27 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ but if I open that it opens in the main webbrowser-app that is running; and if I open it before opening the webbrowser-app it will use that as the main instance | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/+junk/slack-webapp/files just make a deb ;) | 14:28 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ your slack deb desktop file also opens in the main browser instead of it's own window | 14:29 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ try using webbrowser-app as your main browser and you will see what I mean ;-) | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | nah | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | Exec=webapp-container https://ubuntu.slack.com/ | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | it explicitly uses a container | 14:29 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ do what I say and you will see ;-) | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, thats a bug then (it definitely worked for me on wily ... havent used the slack app under xenial yet) | 14:30 |
| sergiusens | ogra_ if I don't have webbrowser-app instance at all and use firefox or chrome as main browsers you wouldn't notice this | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, well, if a -container call opens in the browser thats definitely a really bad bug | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | (with my webapps i rely on the fact that the app doesnt share any of its cache etc) | 14:33 |
| sergiusens | QUESTION what is the powerd overhaul all about? | 14:34 |
| mhall119 | overhauling powerd ;) | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | wax on... wax off ... | 14:35 |
| olli| | sergiusens, powerd is causing death by papercut | 14:35 |
| * olli| remembers kgunn venting on any interaction between powerd and e.g. proximity sensor | 14:36 | |
| sergiusens | mhall119 hah, but how | 14:36 |
| mhall119 | carefully? | 14:36 |
| sergiusens | olli| if it implies no more dbus, I am all for it ;-) | 14:36 |
| olli| | that I don't know | 14:37 |
| olli| | bregma leads repowerd iirc | 14:37 |
| kyrofa | olli|, why not superpowerd? | 14:37 |
| sergiusens | UDS Q was my furthest recollection of the python2 conversation for me | 14:41 |
| sergiusens | err, ignore the bad grammar :-) | 14:41 |
| dobey | what's left on the image that uses py2? | 14:41 |
| willcooke | People interested in AppStream: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-AppStream-About.html#about-whatis | 14:41 |
| heemayl | Is there any dependency of Py2 left on 16.04? | 14:41 |
| willcooke | dobey, some Samba tools I think | 14:42 |
| dobey | ah, hmm | 14:43 |
| willcooke | dobey, we'll be in #ubuntu-uos-core if you're free to chat | 14:44 |
| willcooke | in 15 mins | 14:44 |
| olli| | kyrofa :) | 14:44 |
| heemayl | ubuntu SC is gine, no? | 14:45 |
| olli| | we have to reserve some names for the next rewrite | 14:45 |
| kyrofa | olli|, haha | 14:45 |
| Wellark | heemayl: you mean Ubuntu Software Center, right? | 14:45 |
| heemayl | Yep | 14:45 |
| Wellark | willcooke: --^ | 14:45 |
| heemayl | Its GNome ? | 14:46 |
| mhall119 | heemayl: USC is still in the archives I think, but not the default install | 14:46 |
| willcooke | yeah, it's GNOME Software | 14:46 |
| dobey | software-center and gnome-software aren't the same thing; the latter replaced the former in the default install | 14:46 |
| willcooke | u-s-c is still in the archive if you want to install it, but it's unmaintained | 14:47 |
| heemayl | Hmm.. i am not using 16.04 but read the release notes ththe USC is gone in favor of Gnome SC | 14:47 |
| willcooke | heemayl, correct | 14:47 |
| heemayl | So they are not mutually exclusive? | 14:48 |
| willcooke | heemayl, nope | 14:48 |
| heemayl | Good to know | 14:48 |
| vulkam | where am i? o_O | 14:48 |
| willcooke | heemayl, all the dependancies are still there in 16.04. But likely won't be in 16.10 | 14:48 |
| nhaines | Nope, no more than apt, apt-get, aptititude, and synaptic are mutually exclusive. (They're not!) | 14:48 |
| heemayl | Ahh, so just for the time being.. | 14:49 |
| bluebug | There is already an application called snap (snap - Semi-HMM-based Nucleic Acid Parser). How are you going to avoid conflict with snap package manager? | 14:49 |
| heemayl | bluebug: Thats already causing problems on man pages and some other places.. | 14:49 |
| heemayl | Some users are needing to remove snap to install snapd | 14:50 |
| heemayl | Saw some questions on AU | 14:50 |
| bluebug | heemayl: Probably I need to give up one :P | 14:51 |
| heemayl | haha..then its going to be snap for sure :D | 14:51 |
| kyrofa | bluebug, heemayl please raise those concerns in #snappy | 14:52 |
| heemayl | Well, i can but the problem is they are not gonna remove a whole packaging system for a single package.. | 14:53 |
| bluebug | They can rename it | 14:53 |
| dobey | well, can fix the dependencies | 14:53 |
| heemayl | Thats a solution | 14:53 |
| alecu | remember to eat your vegetables! | 14:54 |
| kyrofa | dobey, yeah that's probably the easiest | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | alecu, yummy ! | 14:54 |
| kyrofa | heemayl, bluebug at least log a bug? | 14:54 |
| dobey | heemayl: eh, i can install snap and snapd both | 14:54 |
| heemayl | good for you..saw some posts on AU | 14:54 |
| heemayl | i dont have 16.04 soc at check | 14:54 |
| heemayl | *can't | 14:54 |
| dobey | oh | 14:55 |
| dobey | there is a media player called snappy though | 14:55 |
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| ogra_ | dobey, there are a lot of things called snappy :) | 14:55 |
| dobey | and for some reason it snapd conflicts with it | 14:55 |
| bluebug | They should name it upk (ubuntu package manager) :) | 14:56 |
| dobey | Conflicts: snap (<< 2013-11-29-1ubuntu1), snappy | 14:56 |
| dobey | not nice | 14:56 |
| dobey | someone should file a bug about it | 14:56 |
| bluebug | I'll try to file. But I dunno, how to do that. | 14:57 |
| dobey | ubuntu-bug snapd | 14:57 |
| dobey | run that :) | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | bluebug, chack the channel topic in #snappy ... | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | there is a link to the right place | 14:57 |
| heemayl | saw this today | 14:58 |
| heemayl | http://askubuntu.com/a/763695/216503\ | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | well, if you are using an ubuntu desktop you realyl shouldnt have to care ... snapd is part of the default seed nowadays | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | snap install will work out of the box | 14:59 |
| dobey | ogra_: well, you don't have to care unless you want to also use the things which snappy conflicts with | 15:00 |
| bluebug | ogra_: Thanks | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | dobey, these would have been uninstalled on upgrade though | 15:01 |
| dobey | that's not the point i was making :) | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | i know :) | 15:03 |
| dobey | anyway, plenary over. cheers :) | 15:05 |
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