=== Trevinho_ is now known as Trevinho [12:56] o/ [13:56] hello! [13:56] <_cyball_> hi :) [13:57] o/ [13:58] dpm, got a link for me? [13:58] Im on a phone [13:59] <_cyball_> does the stream work? mine is still black .. it says stream will start shortly ... [13:59] _cyball_, not live yet [13:59] Still 30 seconds to go... ;-) [14:05] Hey! Did I miss much? [14:05] CheeseBurg: nope, just started [14:06] mhall119, I can't find the link, where is it ? [14:06] om26er: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22663/ubuntu-online-summit-opening-plenary/ [14:12] QUESTION why are all the photos of the Pro 5 in black and is it only available for sale in ugly gold ? [14:15] justCarakas, not sure if the other colors sold out already [14:15] let me check [14:16] hi everyone [14:16] could someone please change this channel's topic to include the link http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/2016-05-03 [14:18] inetpro: there should be bots handling that, I've pinged the IRC team to see if they need a poke [14:18] @oLLi| From what I can see there is only a golden 32 Meizu PRO 5 ubuntu edition [14:21] \o/ I hope that means we finally get auto backup for photos! [14:21] high hopes :) [14:21] :) [14:21] sergiusens, that barely works with the owncloud app on android :P [14:22] Though maybe the most recent release improved it... [14:22] kyrofa well now I would prefer backing up to amazon photos as I have it for free and unused :-) [14:22] sergiusens, huh, I didn't know about that one actually [14:23] kyrofa free for prime members ;-) [14:23] justCarakas, it seems to be the only option at this point, not sure what the context is, sorry [14:23] multi-window webbrowser-app \o/ [14:23] pfft, who needs that [14:23] it sucks, its keeping me from actualy buying the phone and canonical and meizu are ignoring my tweets about it [14:23] * ogra_ prefers multiple webapps instead ... each in its own confinement :) [14:24] ogra_ well, I have to switch tabs to go from my irc tab to the onair one ;-) [14:24] ogra_: I hope it means we can have one normal and one private window open at the same time [14:24] sergiusens, use my kiwi-irc app :) [14:24] ogra_ I can't get that to work on the desktop; a webapp open the browser and keeps the icon [14:24] useful for web dev [14:25] ogra_ I'm on desktop ubuntu (xenial) and I snap install[ed] shout ;-) [14:25] sergiusens, so roll a snap for the clisnt side too ... using a webapp-container [14:25] ogra_: wouldn't private especially benefit from being an extra app that has less privileges? if eg. it drops access to the normal browsing data on disk [14:25] *client [14:26] fusel: the browser already doesn't have access to data on disk, it goes through ContentHub for that [14:26] fusel, for sure ... thats the reason why i prefer webapps ... a private window of the same browser app still shares bits and pieces === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-plenary to: Track: | Online Summit Opening Plenary with the Ubuntu Engineering team | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22663/ubuntu-online-summit-opening-plenary/ [14:26] mhall119, well ... it has shared space that all tabs can use [14:26] mhall119: it has access to its own data, such as cookies and browsing history, which shouldn't be used ever in private browsing [14:26] right [14:27] ogra_ I have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/16202003/ [14:27] sergiusens, yeah [14:27] fusel: ah,I see [14:28] ogra_ but if I open that it opens in the main webbrowser-app that is running; and if I open it before opening the webbrowser-app it will use that as the main instance [14:28] sergiusens, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/+junk/slack-webapp/files just make a deb ;) [14:29] ogra_ your slack deb desktop file also opens in the main browser instead of it's own window [14:29] ogra_ try using webbrowser-app as your main browser and you will see what I mean ;-) [14:29] nah [14:29] Exec=webapp-container https://ubuntu.slack.com/ [14:29] it explicitly uses a container [14:30] ogra_ do what I say and you will see ;-) [14:30] sergiusens, thats a bug then (it definitely worked for me on wily ... havent used the slack app under xenial yet) [14:31] ogra_ if I don't have webbrowser-app instance at all and use firefox or chrome as main browsers you wouldn't notice this [14:31] sergiusens, well, if a -container call opens in the browser thats definitely a really bad bug [14:33] (with my webapps i rely on the fact that the app doesnt share any of its cache etc) [14:34] QUESTION what is the powerd overhaul all about? [14:34] overhauling powerd ;) [14:35] wax on... wax off ... [14:35] sergiusens, powerd is causing death by papercut [14:36] * olli| remembers kgunn venting on any interaction between powerd and e.g. proximity sensor [14:36] mhall119 hah, but how [14:36] carefully? [14:36] olli| if it implies no more dbus, I am all for it ;-) [14:37] that I don't know [14:37] bregma leads repowerd iirc [14:37] olli|, why not superpowerd? [14:41] UDS Q was my furthest recollection of the python2 conversation for me [14:41] err, ignore the bad grammar :-) [14:41] what's left on the image that uses py2? [14:41] People interested in AppStream: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-AppStream-About.html#about-whatis [14:41] Is there any dependency of Py2 left on 16.04? [14:42] dobey, some Samba tools I think [14:43] ah, hmm [14:44] dobey, we'll be in #ubuntu-uos-core if you're free to chat [14:44] in 15 mins [14:44] kyrofa :) [14:45] ubuntu SC is gine, no? [14:45] we have to reserve some names for the next rewrite [14:45] olli|, haha [14:45] heemayl: you mean Ubuntu Software Center, right? [14:45] Yep [14:45] willcooke: --^ [14:46] Its GNome ? [14:46] heemayl: USC is still in the archives I think, but not the default install [14:46] yeah, it's GNOME Software [14:46] software-center and gnome-software aren't the same thing; the latter replaced the former in the default install [14:47] u-s-c is still in the archive if you want to install it, but it's unmaintained [14:47] Hmm.. i am not using 16.04 but read the release notes ththe USC is gone in favor of Gnome SC [14:47] heemayl, correct [14:48] So they are not mutually exclusive? [14:48] heemayl, nope [14:48] Good to know [14:48] where am i? o_O [14:48] heemayl, all the dependancies are still there in 16.04. But likely won't be in 16.10 [14:48] Nope, no more than apt, apt-get, aptititude, and synaptic are mutually exclusive. (They're not!) [14:49] Ahh, so just for the time being.. [14:49] There is already an application called snap (snap - Semi-HMM-based Nucleic Acid Parser). How are you going to avoid conflict with snap package manager? [14:49] bluebug: Thats already causing problems on man pages and some other places.. [14:50] Some users are needing to remove snap to install snapd [14:50] Saw some questions on AU [14:51] heemayl: Probably I need to give up one :P [14:51] haha..then its going to be snap for sure :D [14:52] bluebug, heemayl please raise those concerns in #snappy [14:53] Well, i can but the problem is they are not gonna remove a whole packaging system for a single package.. [14:53] They can rename it [14:53] well, can fix the dependencies [14:53] Thats a solution [14:54] remember to eat your vegetables! [14:54] dobey, yeah that's probably the easiest [14:54] alecu, yummy ! [14:54] heemayl, bluebug at least log a bug? [14:54] heemayl: eh, i can install snap and snapd both [14:54] good for you..saw some posts on AU [14:54] i dont have 16.04 soc at check [14:54] *can't [14:55] oh [14:55] there is a media player called snappy though === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-plenary to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/plenary/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/03/%23ubuntu-uos-plenary.html [14:55] dobey, there are a lot of things called snappy :) [14:55] and for some reason it snapd conflicts with it [14:56] They should name it upk (ubuntu package manager) :) [14:56] Conflicts: snap (<< 2013-11-29-1ubuntu1), snappy [14:56] not nice [14:56] someone should file a bug about it [14:57] I'll try to file. But I dunno, how to do that. [14:57] ubuntu-bug snapd [14:57] run that :) [14:57] bluebug, chack the channel topic in #snappy ... [14:57] there is a link to the right place [14:58] saw this today [14:58] http://askubuntu.com/a/763695/216503\ [14:59] well, if you are using an ubuntu desktop you realyl shouldnt have to care ... snapd is part of the default seed nowadays [14:59] snap install will work out of the box [15:00] ogra_: well, you don't have to care unless you want to also use the things which snappy conflicts with [15:01] ogra_: Thanks [15:01] dobey, these would have been uninstalled on upgrade though [15:02] that's not the point i was making :) [15:03] i know :) [15:05] anyway, plenary over. cheers :) === charles_ is now known as charles