[04:24] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone
[05:48] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[05:49] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy inetpro superfly pavlushka paddatrapper bushtech anton_may theblazehen and others too
[05:50] <bushtech> Morning Kilos, others
[05:51] <Kilos> hi zipper 
[05:51] <Kilos> i thought i better greet before you become jellie
[05:59] <mazal> Mornings
[06:06] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Really enjoying KDE, and I've only been using it for about 15 minutes
[06:09] <Kilos> w00000t
[06:11] <mazal> Another kde man :)
[06:11] <paddatrapper> Now I just need to get used to things like Activities and QT versions of GTK applications
[06:19] <Kilos> you will see paddatrapper after a month of getting used to it you wont want to change again
[06:19] <Kilos> wb  mazal 
[06:20] <paddatrapper> I love how everything ties into everything else. Looks very slick
[06:20] <Kilos> if you  dont have a cap you can install kubuntu-full i think its called
[06:20] <Kilos> then it has lots of stuff to use
[06:22] <paddatrapper> I see. apt install kubuntu-full?
[06:22] <Kilos> lemme check in synaptic
[06:23] <paddatrapper> Currently updating everything, otherwise I'd just check quickly
[06:23] <Kilos> ya kubuntu-full
[06:24] <Kilos> did you use the advice on the link 20 cool things to do after installing kubuntu 14.04
[06:24] <paddatrapper> Busy following it - first was the update
[06:24] <Kilos> can even give the file goodie root powers
[06:25] <mazal> Kilos, is paddatrapper using 14.04 ? On 16.04 most of those 20 things don't work 
[06:26] <paddatrapper> Yeah I am using 14.04
[06:26] <mazal> k
[06:26] <Kilos> good lad
[06:26] <mazal> I went through those 20 things on 16.04 and plenty of them doesn't work
[06:26] <mazal> Some still do
[06:28] <mazal> Lekker bang vir 16.04 nê lol
[06:29] <Kilos> see mazal he didnt take years to convince either
[06:29] <theblazehen> morning Kilos, others
[06:29] <Kilos> i have lots of outside work today so will be slow with answers
[06:29] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[06:30] <mazal> Morning theblazehen
[06:30] <theblazehen> Hi mazal. How are you?
[06:30] <mazal> Kilos, it didn't take so long with me
[06:30] <mazal> okish and you theblazehen
[06:30] <theblazehen> I'm alright thanks. Really busy..
[06:32] <paddatrapper> hey theblazehen 
[06:32] <theblazehen> hey paddatrapper
[06:38] <magespawn> good morning
[06:39] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[06:41] <pavlushka> Hi Kilos , how can I help you?
[06:43] <Kilos> smile pavlushka 
[06:43] <magespawn> hi pavlushka 
[06:45] <pavlushka> today I've installed k3b, kde based after failing brasero, it works way better.
[06:45] <pavlushka> And hello every one!
[06:46] <paddatrapper> hey pavlushka 
[06:46] <Kilos> k3b rocks
[06:47] <Kilos> oh paddatrapper look at systemback
[06:47] <Kilos> can make an installable stick of your running system in case you mess up
[06:48] <chesedo> good morning all, hope all (za peeps) enjoyed the long weekend
[06:48] <Kilos> i tiried the live option now i have a stick i can plug into any pc and have same system running as here
[06:48] <paddatrapper> Oh nice, very useful! Can it be used as a live USB as well?
[06:49] <paddatrapper> That answers my question, awesome
[06:49] <paddatrapper> Hey chesedo 
[06:49] <Kilos> there are many options
[06:49] <Kilos> 4.7g iso it made
[06:50] <paddatrapper> I'm off. I'll be back later
[06:50] <Kilos> and it writes to the stick easily
[06:50] <Kilos> be good
[08:55] <paddatrapper> The problem with having a new setup is that it means I will most certainly not be studying for the tests I have coming up...
[08:56] <chesedo> lol paddatrapper, know the struggle
[08:57]  * chesedo suppose to be working in his notes
[08:59] <paddatrapper> lol
[09:08] <Kilos> study paddatrapper 
[09:08] <Kilos> study comes first
[09:09] <Kilos> the new setup is going nowhere slowly, it will wait for you
[09:09] <paddatrapper> But it's fun, calculus is repetetive
[09:20] <magespawn> back again
[10:13] <Kilos> lol
[10:40] <mazal> maaz google kdeinit5
[10:40] <Maaz> mazal: "Ubuntu Manpage: kdeinit5 - Launcher for applications built with ..." http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man8/kdeinit5.8.html :: "kdeinit5 could not start - FedoraForum.org" http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=304622 :: "Bug #1411259 “kdeinit5 crashes on logout and log in screen never ..." https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1411259 :: "Re:
[10:40] <Maaz> Upgrade warning: KDE/Plasma 5 stuff broken" https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2015/09/msg…
[10:43] <mazal> That wasn't much help
[10:44] <mazal> maaz google kdeinit5 crashed when working with partitions
[10:44] <Maaz> mazal: "OpenSUSE Leap 42.1-RC1 | Thoughts on computing" https://nwrickert2.wordpress.com/2015/10/17/opensuse-leap-42-1-rc1/ :: "Test Cycle 2016.03 ISO - KaOS" http://kaosx.us/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=1371 :: "[solved but not nvidia] System hangs starting X (SDDM / KDE Plasma ..." https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=209511 :: "KaOS 2016.01 review - The fallen
[10:44] <Maaz> angel - Dedoimedo" http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kaos-2016-01.html :: "Manjaro KDE 0.…
[10:46] <mazal> Seems there is a problem between gparted and kdeinit5. Everytime I create partitions with gparted that app/services crashes
[10:47] <mazal> Wil do the next one with KDE's built-in partition app and see what happens
[11:25] <mazal> Another bug and it's not fixed in 16.04 :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasque/+bug/1448512
[11:43] <Kilos> just keep bug reporting
[11:43] <mazal> I have 2 more bugs that affects me
[11:43] <Kilos> more reports raise the priority 
[11:43] <mazal> 16.04 a very buggy experience so far
[11:43] <Kilos> well i told you wair
[11:43] <Kilos> wait
[11:44] <mazal> Remember why the rush oom , I was desperate to get of Winbloze at home
[11:44] <Kilos>  best to install 3 months after release
[11:44] <mazal> Otherwise I would have waited for .1 release
[11:44] <Kilos> nono you could have gone 14.04
[11:45] <mazal> Don't want to re-install now and again later
[11:45] <Kilos> just keep reporting bugs
[11:45] <Kilos> one of the dev guys laptops wouldnt boot this morning
[11:45] <mazal> This system icons missing one seems to be around since 15.10 already
[11:50] <mazal> I'm actually thinking of adding unity until kde/plasma become more stable , but ish I don't like unity
[11:50] <Kilos> i think you will find more bugs in unity
[11:51] <Kilos> if the bugs are wasting your time go back to 14.04
[11:51] <mazal> I'll try and live with it for now. Re-installing is too big a job
[11:52] <Kilos> lol
[11:52] <mazal> The two main ones left for me is the missing email system tray icon and kde5init regularly crashing
[11:52] <mazal> The latter is worrying me
[11:53] <mazal> The icon I can live without , but that init app might be important. Couldn't really get proper info on it
[11:54] <Kilos> open synaptic and reinstall all the init packages, maybe there is a patch released already
[11:56] <Kilos> oh mazal what did you choose in systemback to make it installable
[11:57] <Kilos> i chose live and it works fine but doesnt show an install goodie
[11:58] <mazal> The install is only in the boot menu
[11:59] <mazal> There is an option " run installer "
[11:59] <Kilos> oh ill check that again ty
[11:59] <mazal> There is no shortcut in live mode
[12:00] <mazal> btw , did you guys beat that duel-boot with Win 10 ?
[12:00] <mazal> I lost track of the progress on that one
[12:00] <Kilos> yes its running
[12:00] <mazal> kewl
[12:01] <Kilos> had to tell bios to boot from u buntu
[12:01] <mazal> oi
[12:01] <Kilos> first time ive seen that
[12:01] <mazal> eufi/secure boot
[12:01] <mazal> An example of what I said the other day of change does not equal better
[12:01] <Kilos> i dunno , will have to ask langjan
[12:02] <mazal> I read in that doc I linked that is one of the uefi "features". You have to tell the bios to allow ubuntu to boot
[12:03] <mazal> And have two places inside Win 10 that must be done also
[12:03] <Kilos> 10 is a curse on mankind i think
[12:03] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes 
[12:04] <mazal> Change ≠ better
[12:04] <mazal> Ah my compose key works at least lol
[12:04] <Kilos> lol
[12:05] <Wolfeyes> hey Kilos
[12:05] <Wolfeyes> hey everyone
[12:05] <mazal> Hi Wolfeyes
[12:05] <Wolfeyes> hy mazal
[12:10] <mazal> oom Kilos , I think I must kill my rss app
[12:10] <mazal> They keep posting today about new releases :P
[12:11] <mazal> The PS4 kind
[12:20] <Kilos> lol
[12:23] <mazal> Bye for now
[12:58] <nlsthzn> o/
[13:07] <superfly> o/
[13:07] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[13:08] <nlsthzn> hi superfly, uncle Kilos :)
[13:08]  * superfly is a zombie today
[13:09] <nlsthzn> sounds like me on a normal day >.<
[13:09] <nlsthzn> and today is such a day :D
[13:10] <nlsthzn> silly konversation, why u no spell check :/
[13:11] <superfly> nlsthzn: kids were up last night
[13:11] <superfly> and I didn't sleep well
[13:11] <Kilos> ai!
[13:12] <nlsthzn> sorry to hear.  can make a long day very long
[13:13] <nlsthzn> 16.04 giving me sound issues again... other than that it seems to be pretty solid :(
[13:14] <Kilos> kde nlsthzn ?
[13:15] <nlsthzn> all of the flavours... corruption in sound using steam
[13:15] <nlsthzn> intermittent corruption
[13:15] <Kilos> ai!
[13:15] <nlsthzn> pita
[13:17]  * nlsthzn will be back... using MS patented fix - rebooting :p
[13:17] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:22] <magespawn> chat later all, on the road
[13:22] <Kilos> go well
[13:25] <nlsthzn> multimedia can be strange... had to install the weirdest codec to get m4a files to play
[13:25] <nlsthzn> and spell check still not automatically working >.<
[13:25] <nlsthzn> grrrr
[13:27] <inetpro> goeie more
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[13:28] <nlsthzn> hey inetpro... thanks for the heads up :)
[13:30] <inetpro> nlsthzn: just follow @ubuntuappdev on Telegram or go to https://telegram.me/ubuntuappdev for other future news 
[13:30]  * inetpro likes this kinda service on Telegram 
[13:34] <inetpro> another one I follow is https://telegram.me/kubuntu
[13:34] <inetpro> oh and then there is our own one at https://telegram.me/ubuntuza
[13:43] <inetpro> if only oom Kilos knew what is good for him he would be exploiting this service already a long time ago
[13:45] <theblazehen> Wow.. 
[13:46] <theblazehen> I wrote horrible code today, in order to interface with a (IMO) horrible api
[14:14] <theblazehen> hey Maaz
[14:14] <theblazehen> mazal
[14:15] <mazal> hi
[14:35] <theblazehen> How are you mazal?
[14:36] <mazal> no comment
[14:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:43] <mazal> One day bad , the next day worse
[14:47] <theblazehen> mazal: That sucks :/ Want to talk about what's happening or nah?
[14:48] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[14:51] <mazal> no thanx theblazehen
[14:51] <andrewlsd> hi Kilos 
[14:52] <theblazehen> Hi andrewlsd
[14:53] <Kilos> inetpro what are you on about , me exploiting telegram
[14:59] <Kilos> i use telegram just for ian and the girls
[15:04] <paddatrapper> I wish more people used it as aposed to Whatsapp. So much easier to create bots, etc. for
[15:09] <Kilos> i have too many channels and mailing lists to want to add more stuff
[15:09] <Kilos> i need to retire
[15:11] <Kilos> padda do you get these https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue464
[15:13] <paddatrapper> I don't, no
[15:14] <Kilos> you can read it online i think
[15:14] <Kilos> i cant remember how i got to get it in mails
[15:15] <Kilos> maybe there is a subscribe button
[15:17] <gremble> Good evening
[15:17] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[15:17] <gremble> How are you Kilos?
[15:17] <Kilos> ok ty just tired
[15:17] <Kilos> lol getting like everyone else
[15:17] <gremble> Long day of work? :P
[15:17] <Kilos> redshift didnt help me sleep last night
[15:18] <gremble> Ah. Well, get to bed early tonight. Or at least stop looking at a screen so late. You are getting like those youngens :P
[15:19] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:19] <gremble> I am excited though. I finally got a job. I am a professional writer now :D
[15:21] <Kilos> congrats
[15:21] <Kilos> what are you writing
[15:21] <gremble> My first project is an N6 mathematics textbook
[15:21] <Kilos> cool
[15:25] <gremble> Anyway. I am off to go learn how to fight using historic weapons. talk to you later
[15:26] <paddatrapper> gremble: Don't you just swing and hope it hits the other guy before he hits you?
[15:29] <Kilos> haha
[15:29] <gremble> paddatrapper, No, because then the other guy will hit you :P If you ever find yourself somewhat curious, let me know, I will send you a textbook that I like. :P
[15:30] <gremble> I am doing Italian sabre at the moment, but I'm quite keen on the D\utch wrestling.
[15:30] <gremble> Anyway, I am popping out. :P
[15:30] <Kilos> enjoy
[15:31] <paddatrapper> I've always been curious - dabled in blacksmithing a little, but never could afford good tools and materials. Also done some reading on fencing styles which was interesting
[16:23] <Kilos> too much inetpro 
[16:24] <Kilos> power gone
[17:25] <Kilos> power came back
[17:31] <Kilos> seems like you all asleep. maybe i should sleep as well
[17:36] <paddatrapper> ot asleep, just frantically studying
[17:36] <paddatrapper> s/ot/not
[17:37] <Kilos> god , study lad
[17:37] <Kilos> good
[17:41] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:11] <gremble> What are you frantically studying, paddatrapper?
[20:14] <paddatrapper> gremble: maths - calculus 1 (so proofs for Africa)
[20:15] <gremble> Shout if you need assistance. 
[20:15] <gremble> I study mathematics
[20:15]  * gremble pops collar
[20:18] <paddatrapper> Thanks. For the moment I'm finding it pretty straight forward, but I'm sure I'll need some prodding later in the year!
[20:18] <paddatrapper> Where are you studying?
[20:33] <paddatrapper> Alright Night everyone
[20:38] <gremble> Cheers paddatrapper 
[20:38] <gremble> I study at UP