[03:26] <sgclark> ah roadblock on mergers which is out of my hands.
[08:03] <yofel> moin
 clivejo use Vivaldi
 It is created by part of former Opera devs. Version 1.1 was released last days - it is super cool and fast etc.
 hiho yofel
[08:59] <yofel> o/
[08:59]  * yofel has vivialdi installed here, just isn't sure why he would use yet another chromium spinoff
[08:59] <yofel> even if I did like opera to some extent
[09:00] <yofel> I did like that UI first-run setup though
 I like the dark theme and whit all my customised options it is what I like most ;)
[10:33] <soee> they are quick openSUSE Tumbleweed Prepares for GCC 6, Users Get Linux Kernel 4.5.2, Mesa 11.2
[10:40] <shadeslayer> pft
[10:40] <shadeslayer> I have 4.6 already
[10:43]  * yofel isn't sure he wants gcc6 already...
[10:43] <yofel> I prever getting work done over ICEs
[10:43] <yofel> *pefer
[10:43] <yofel> *prefer...
[10:44] <shadeslayer> over typos ....
[10:44] <yofel> :D
[11:00] <clivejo> good afternoon ladies and gentlemens
[11:03] <clivejo> grrrr I hate symbols
[11:06] <clivejo> 3rd time lucky?
[11:09] <clivejo> yofel: need your help, I cant see why this is failing.  Ive copied ECM from the frameworks staging PPA thinking that would fix it, but still getting errors. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9687009
[11:11] <yofel> hm, there seems to be no qmake-qt5 in your build env, for whatever reason
[11:11] <clivejo> so build dep on qtbase5-dev?
[11:12] <yofel> probably? dunno
[11:12] <yofel> whatever makes sure it's there in the other packages
[11:12] <yofel> but that sounds somewhat reaonsable
[11:13] <yofel> *reasonable
[11:13] <yofel> it's this time of the month again...
[11:13] <clivejo> oh?
[11:13] <yofel> and where's doko when you need him
[11:15]  * yofel reads #kubuntu
[11:16] <yofel> We should probably rephrase the ppa description to "ADDING THIS PPA TO YOUR SYSTEM VOIDS THE WARRANTY" or something like that
[11:17] <clivejo> ah
[11:17] <clivejo> no point
[11:17] <clivejo> people will always break the rules
[11:17] <yofel> we should do a "scary ppa descriptions competition" on the ML :D
[11:17] <clivejo> and then they blame everyone else
[11:19] <clivejo> "Microsoft Windows (TM) (R) (C) 2016 do not recommend you use the PPA, mmmmkay"
[11:20] <yofel> lol, that would work I guess
[11:22] <clivejo> "Adding this PPA will lead to the FBI breaking in your door, and areesting your dog. DONT DO IT!! "
[11:23] <yofel> "This PPA comes with the latest version of the NSA surveillance software - for improved data redundancy"
[11:24]  * clivejo giggles
[12:06] <soee> yofel: add in th description that we do not provide any support when added such ppa, and user do it on own risk
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:11] <yofel> o/
[12:11] <BluesKaj> hey yofel
[12:39] <sgclark> morning
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning sgclark 
[12:42] <soee> hiho
[12:45] <BluesKaj> hi soee
[13:05] <clivejo> yofel: kwallet-pam is building two new files and I dont know where to put them
[13:06] <clivejo> [13:06] <clivejo> -./etc/xdg/autostart/pam_kwallet_init.desktop
[13:06] <clivejo> -./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/pam_kwallet_init
[13:06] <clivejo> [13:07] <clivejo> answers on a post card please
[13:07] <sitter> clivejo: cherrypick from neon
[13:08] <clivejo> sitter: new package pam-kwallet-init ?
[13:08] <sitter> oui
[13:09] <clivejo> sitter: how will debian deal with this?
[13:09] <clivejo> are you going to take your lead?
[13:09] <clivejo> they
[13:18] <sitter> not the faintest idea
[13:18] <sitter> if you take my lead they will take your lead and everyone is happy
[13:18] <clivejo> but will they?
[13:18] <clivejo> now that we have moved to LP git?
[13:20] <clivejo> any know what kde-cli-tools: package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kcmshell5.so means?
[13:27] <sitter> clivejo: you could tell maxy and then they probably will
[13:29] <clivejo> ah right! Im sure he'll listen to me!
[13:31] <sitter> clivejo: you are a perfectly nice chap one might or might not want to listen to, probably. ;)
[13:32] <yofel> sitter: do you have the login data for ~kubuntu-ci-bot ?
[13:32] <clivejo> LOL Ive havent even been doing this for a year yet
[13:32] <sitter> yofel: once I request a reset I might
[13:32] <clivejo> why would anyone listen to me?!?
[13:33] <yofel> sitter: sgclark was looking at how to grant it commit access for the branches (I don't know what ssh key is used where)
[13:34] <sgclark> meh no rush. mergers are still quite broken. not using origin is once again biting us
[13:34] <yofel> why would we not be using origin?
[13:34]  * yofel is confused
[13:34] <clivejo> why cant we use origin?
[13:35] <clivejo> surely LP is origin
[13:35] <sgclark> yofel: you told me not to. path I mean origin/blah
[13:36] <yofel> sgclark: yes, because the way you had pushed that, the actual checkout path would have been origin/origin/blah
[13:36] <sgclark> meh I don't know
[13:36] <sgclark> I am so fricken frazzled I don't know how anything works anymore
[13:36] <yofel> the branch itself must not have an origin prefix. The remote name is a local thing though and unrelated to where the remote repository is located
[13:37] <yofel> take a break!
[13:37] <sitter> *must resist urge to paste passwords without checking if in query first*
[13:38] <sgclark> I can't. I have to finish this before my internship
[13:38] <sitter> yofel: ye have a password in a query
[13:38] <yofel> thanks
[13:38]  * yofel reported a bug in Launchpad about Launchpad
[13:38] <yofel> the day is saved
[13:38] <sitter> on a unrelated note, feel free to change the mail address of the account. I don't mind particularly, it's not the most efficient of ways to handle this sorta thing though ^^
[13:42] <clivejo> Gmail is so confusing
[13:42] <clivejo> why do they have to reinvent the wheel and make it a square
[13:43] <yofel> because people are tired of round wheels
[13:43] <clivejo> at least they work!
[13:44]  * clivejo kicks kontact and firefox
[13:44] <sitter> intermission time! http://imgur.com/gallery/Orfwjiu
[13:44] <sitter> clivejo: oh to answer your question as to why anyone would listen to you. because you'd be messenger delivering my bidding :P
[13:45] <clivejo> you know what happens to messengers!
[13:45] <sitter> clivejo: also, time engaged doesn't mean much. there's people who have done packaging for years and aren't doing a very good job
[13:46] <clivejo> sitter: do you know what that lintian error is about?
[13:46] <sitter> lintian being daft is what it is about
[13:47]  * sgclark isn't doing a very good job
[13:47] <clivejo> I disagree @ sgclark
[13:47]  * yofel messes up all the time
[13:48] <clivejo> its a very steep and slippery slope you are climbing and you are doing your best !
[13:48] <mamarley> sgclark: You are way too hard on yourself.  You are doing great!
[13:48] <sgclark> https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger.html looks to me like postinst-must-call-ldconfig was replaced?
[13:48] <sitter> no
[13:48] <yofel> I should sue the kubunt project lead for false promises. The docs said something about eventually becoming sitter after a while
[13:48] <yofel> wait, that's me
[13:48] <sitter> sgclark: it's just a new warning because the other 3 along the same line weren't enough
[13:48] <sgclark> haha
[13:48] <sitter> see existing lintian override of that package
[13:49] <sgclark> so it is in addition to?
[13:49] <clivejo> but is there some way of making lintian happy instead of overriding it?
[13:50] <sitter> yofel: I think they said you can become apachelogger. which you can. for like 20 seconds until nickserv forces a new nick on you :P
[13:50] <yofel> true :D
[13:50] <sitter> sgclark: in addition to yes http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/plasma/kde-cli-tools.git/tree/debian/kde-cli-tools.lintian-overrides?h=Neon/unstable
[13:50] <clivejo> sitter: did you work for Canoncial at one point?
[13:51]  * sgclark wonders how often sitter gets asked that
[13:51] <sitter> kdeinit simply causes false positives becuase kdeinit is a very special thing, and is using silly paths, but that's another matter
[13:51] <sitter> clivejo: I did not
[13:51] <yofel> sitter obviously needs to join https://launchpad.net/~not-canonical
[13:52] <clivejo> LOL
[13:52] <clivejo> is there a definitely-not-canonical group?
[13:53] <sgclark> ok so my adding it to overrides looks to be the right move. good to know I didn't mess one thing up.
[13:54] <clivejo> would someone move plasma-discover back to just discover in LP git please?
[13:55] <clivejo> or tell me how to do it
[13:55]  * clivejo is sick of seeing it on his list
[13:56] <yofel> go to the branch page on launchpad (code.l, not git.l), there click on change details and change the name
[13:56] <clivejo> is it that easy?!?
[13:56] <yofel> should be
[13:57] <yofel> that's not the hard part anyway, fixing everything else is
[13:57] <clivejo> good gracious me, I thought it was going to be a ruby script from the Ruby god him/herself
[13:57] <yofel> well, you CAN use the API if you really want to...
[13:58] <clivejo> no no, Im good thanks :)
[13:59]  * clivejo checks that off his list
[13:59] <sgclark> lol
[13:59] <clivejo> eakkk
[14:00] <clivejo> security updates
[14:00] <clivejo> openssl
[14:02] <clivejo> http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/plasma/libkscreen.git/commit/?h=Neon/release&id=e64786e3a34efd819a7fde3a7bfdf94cf9a316a9
[14:02] <clivejo> Anyone know why its obsoleted?
[14:03] <yofel> because it's replaced by 7?
[14:03] <clivejo> why not just rename the files?
[14:04] <clivejo> odd
[14:04] <yofel> it doesn't matter either way
[14:04] <yofel> just different workflows
[14:06] <clivejo> okay dokey smokey
[14:07] <shadeslayer> clivejo: yofel The files were renamed, but I think Riddell just did a git rm and git add :P
[14:08] <yofel> or that, true
[14:08] <shadeslayer> I  see version info in the symbols
[14:08] <yofel> how could he ^^
[14:17] <clivejo> yofel: so you happy with me linitan overriding "E: kde-cli-tools: package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kcmshell5.so"
[14:23] <yofel> yes
[14:24] <clivejo> :) pushed and uploaded
[14:25] <clivejo> sitter: is there anyone working on khelpcentre?
[14:26] <clivejo> it looks VERY outdated :/
[14:30] <clivejo> We should just have a status page
[14:34] <soee> im not sure if we can do it but we could link each version to status pages - would be handy
[14:34] <soee> clivejo: do you know who packaged digiKam ?
[14:34] <soee> !info digikam xenial
[14:35] <clivejo> soee: Ive attempted it in the past
[14:35] <sgclark> sitter: any clue what would randomly delete tooling3 and replace it with blue-systems on kci?
[14:35] <soee> some user on #kubuntu reported that it is missing world map?
[14:35] <soee> [16:33] <Graf_Westerholt> soee, as I know, it is because of Kubuntu. Kubuntu is missing a package for the world map for digiKam.
[14:36] <yofel> ^ true
[14:36] <sgclark> soee: libkgeomap was not ported at the time we packaged that. not sure if it has a release yet for kf5
[14:36] <yofel> that
[14:36] <sgclark> well
[14:36] <yofel> actually the other way around, marble is qt5, digikam qt4
[14:37] <sgclark> I think my efforts are for not
[14:37] <sgclark> something is overwriting my changes on kci
[14:37] <clivejo> I did play around with packaging digikam5
[14:37] <clivejo> should be in my PPA somewhere
[14:37] <clivejo> and I use it on my own machine
[14:38] <clivejo> soee: https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial
[14:38] <clivejo> beta 3 of digikam5
[14:38] <soee> but we cant ship beta no?
[14:38] <Graf_Westerholt> I am missing libkgeomap very much.
[14:39] <clivejo> nope
[14:39] <clivejo> its only testing
[14:39] <soee> i see :)
[14:39] <sgclark> it is upstream problem, we can't ship beta software and digikam has not released kf5 yet
[14:39] <clivejo> but its looking good
[14:39] <sgclark> libkgeomap qt4 is no more
[14:40] <soee> Graf_Westerholt: so as you see we can't do much here
[14:40] <Graf_Westerholt> soee, ok.
[14:40] <clivejo> Graf_Westerholt: feel free to test beta 3
[14:41] <yofel> we could put the beta into yakkety I guess. As long as it works somewhat well people could at least test it
[14:41] <Graf_Westerholt> clivejo, I am using Kubuntu 14.04 on a second PC for the world map, so I have a workaround.
[14:41] <clivejo> Graf_Westerholt: ok, no problem :)
[14:42] <Graf_Westerholt> But of course it would be better to have it in the newest Kubuntu.
[14:46] <clivejo> once version 5 is officially released Im sure we'll backport it to xenial
[14:54] <sitter> sgclark: mgmt_tooling
[14:55] <sgclark> yeah found it
[14:55] <sgclark> thanks
[14:55] <sitter> clivejo: kicked to the curb, moving from plasma to applications because it is so badly maintained
[14:55] <sgclark> I though tosky took over?
[14:55] <sgclark> thought*
[14:55] <clivejo> sitter: huh?
[14:57] <sgclark> clivejo: khelpcenter
[14:57] <sitter> sgclark: still getting the curb
[14:57] <clivejo> ah
[14:57] <sgclark> ah
[14:57] <sgclark> so no help in kde? lol
[14:57]  * clivejo hates symbols
[14:57] <clivejo> sgclark: have you seen khelp recently?
[14:58] <clivejo> its very poor!
[14:58] <sgclark> yes it is dreadful
[14:58] <sgclark> and it really looks bad on kde
[14:58] <sgclark> but fixing it seems like a better idea
[14:58] <sgclark> but meh, guess if there is no one to do it, none is better than useless
[15:06]  * clivejo shouts at libkscreen, just go green !!
[15:08] <soee> :D
[15:51] <clivejo> yofel sgclark: Debian seem to have a new package called plasma-integration - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/plasma-integration.git/
[15:52] <clivejo> looks like plasma-workspace needs it
[15:52] <sgclark> kactivities has a new kactvities-workspace too, not sure if this release
[15:52] <clivejo> can I copy it into LP?
 hello world
[16:13] <clivejo> hi @ovidiuflorin
[16:15] <clivejo> yofel sgclark: Ive gone ahead and copied it to LP
[16:16] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-integration
[16:16] <clivejo> added it to the package list on KA and uploaded to staging PPA#
[16:16] <clivejo> Im gonna be away for a bit as its tea time here
[16:17] <clivejo> if you could check it over make sure Ive done it right
 on what channel do I find the Ubuntu sysadmins?
 or canonical sysadmins
[16:38] <sgclark> canonical-sysadmins
[16:38] <sgclark> canonical-sysadmin
[16:38] <sgclark> #canonical-sysadmin
[16:38]  * sgclark needs more sleep
[16:45] <ovidiuflorin> thank you
 Don't wait for me for the hangout. I'm stuck in traffic
[17:19] <allee> FWIW: in a fresh xenial install I find  qt4 based  baloo-utils libbaloo*4 and libakondi-{kmime,kde,kabc}4
[17:19] <allee> bause there is no qt4 verssion of ballo and akonadiserver it makes no sense to still have them in the archive
[17:48] <allee> ah and there's kdeconnect the qt4 version replaced by qt5 based kdeconnect-plasma
[17:52] <clivejo> is there a core meeting ?
 there should be
 @Sick_Rimmit where are you?
 https://plus.google.com/events/csrm9np0q5jqj5akridn79k7idg?authkey=CMTk26n85IqYEQ
[17:57] <ovidiuflorin> I'm there
[17:58] <clivejo> is it over?
[18:00] <ovidiuflorin> no
[18:01] <ovidiuflorin> clivejo: come and join 
[18:01] <clivejo> how?
[18:01] <ovidiuflorin> allee: https://kubuntu.org/download-test/
[18:17] <ovidiuflorin> https://kubuntu.org/download-test/
[18:59] <yofel> o/
[19:01] <ovidiuflorin> mhall119: ping
 http://youtu.be/QQcBKzfgZUs
[19:01] <mhall119> ovidiuflorin: pong
 That is link,
[19:06] <ovidiuflorin> mhall119: the link is updated already 
[19:06] <ovidiuflorin> thank you anyway
[19:24]  * genii tries to read the spines of the books on oviduflorin's bookshelf
[19:26] <sgclark> sorry I did not make the meeting. I crash and burned. Not much sleep lately.
[19:26]  * clivejo hugs sgclark
[19:26] <clivejo> dont go burning yourself out
[19:27] <sgclark> I think I am close on mergers. He has some serious magic going on here. Well it looks like magic to this newb
[19:27] <genii> Who is the 4th person on the podcast who is not listed?
[19:28] <sgclark> yofel: still issues on my sru. now they complain my backport is same version as yakkety. I am baffeled on how one would make it less. Help accepted if you have time.
[19:29] <shadeslayer> sgclark: heh, it looks like magic till you stare at it long enough
[19:29] <shadeslayer> And also, read tests :P
[19:30] <sgclark> well seeing as I did not know ruby when I started a few days ago I am not doing bad.
[19:31] <yofel> sgclark: ubuntu1.1 as I said, that should work
[19:32] <shadeslayer> sgclark: yeah its a very steep learning curve :)
[19:32] <shadeslayer> You'll be up in no time :)
[19:33] <sgclark> yofel: but I got rejected and surely I will now with 2. I am so confused. I think I broke my brain.
[19:33] <sgclark> so 2.1?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> Just remember , everything is a object :P
[19:33] <genii> Holy recursing video, Batman
[19:34] <yofel> sgclark: huh, you got rejected with 1.1?
[19:34] <yofel> I thought you got rejected with 1?
[19:34] <sgclark> oh
[19:34] <sgclark> but I will with 1.1 now cuz 2 is there no?
[19:34] <sgclark> but originally no it was 1 correct
[19:35] <yofel> 2 is in yakkety, not in xenial
[19:35] <yofel> ah, it's in unapproved. You uploads won't get rejected unless it's in xenial-proposed
[19:35] <genii> !info muon yakkety
[19:35] <yofel> *your
[19:35] <sgclark> ok so if I run again with 1.1 all will be well with the world?
[19:35] <genii> Hm
[19:36] <yofel> yes, the release team will just reject 2 and accept 1.1
[19:36]  * sgclark tries
[19:36] <sgclark> ok thanks
[19:39] <clivejo> o/ acheron88
[19:39] <genii> Yes, it is shifting the colour a bit
[19:46] <genii> telegram: Might be nice to clarify what exactly neon is
[19:58] <clivejo> !info libkf5screen-bin
[20:11] <genii> So we get to find out now if she gets stickers? ;)
[20:12] <genii> Haha, nice!
[20:14] <jimarvan> hi guys
[20:14] <soee> hiho
[20:15] <clivejo> hi soee
[20:15] <clivejo> have you tried/tested FW?
[20:16] <soee> clivejo: only on Xenial
[20:16] <clivejo> and?
[20:17] <soee> well works fine except this one icons package
[20:17] <clivejo> the breeze thing?
[20:17] <soee> and activities manager is not working - probably due to old Plasma 5.5.5
[20:17] <soee> oxygen5-icon-theme
[20:18] <clivejo> yeah, Im having problems with that
[20:18] <soee> but Philip said we should get rid of it some day i think
[20:19] <soee> Breeze have now thousands of icons so i'm not sure why this fallback theme is still provided
[20:22] <yofel> it is still used, and oxygen5-icon-theme is the correct package
[20:22] <yofel> oxygen-icon-theme has to go
[20:23] <yofel> oh right, nobody probably uploaded the fixed package
[20:23] <clivejo> !info libkf5screen-bin
[20:24] <yofel> it is still used, and oxygen5-icon-theme is the correct package
[20:26] <jimarvan> guys how can i send a message to podcast?
[20:26] <jimarvan> is there a channel on irc?
[20:26] <soee> jimarvan: join #kubuntu-podcast
[20:26] <clivejo> #kubuntu-podcast
 join #kubuntu-podcast
[20:26] <jimarvan> thanks!
[20:29] <clivejo> yofel: have you time to help me with something?
[20:39] <yofel> clivejo: depends on what it is?
[20:41] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/libkscreen/tree/debian?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[20:41] <clivejo> libkf5screen-bin.install and libkf5screen7.install
[20:42] <clivejo> should usr/lib/*/qt5/plugins/kf5/kscreen/ be in libkf5screen7.install
[20:43] <clivejo> Neon seems to have done away with libkf5screen-bin.install and put it all in libkf5screen7.install
[20:43] <clivejo> but Debian seem to be keeping libkf5screen-bin
[20:43] <yofel> I would say no - theoretically yes, but only with a version namespace
[20:45] <clivejo> I dont understand that answer!
[20:46] <clivejo> no but yes!
[20:46] <yofel> the problem with having it in libkf5screen7, is that it makes different soversion not co-installable - which is kind of the point of the whole versioning
[20:47] <yofel> in practice, that's already the case though with -bin, as the lib needs the exact matching -bin package
[20:47] <clivejo> where would you put it?
[20:47] <yofel> so either way is ~ok, -bin just looks better
[20:47] <clivejo> my instinct is telling me to put it in -bin
[20:49] <clivejo> its a plugin rather than a library, no?
[20:49] <yofel> right
[20:51] <clivejo> Neon have done away with -bin and bunched all the files into libkf5screen7
[20:51] <clivejo> http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/plasma/libkscreen.git/tree/debian/libkf5screen7.install?h=Neon/release
[20:51] <clivejo> does that make sense to you?
[20:52] <yofel> yes, it makes it easier to CI really, as you have less packages to maintain
[20:52] <clivejo> should I follow Neon and do away with -bin ?
[20:52] <sgclark> yofel: looks like I have to do some re-write with ci, last chance, do we want to break namespaces down further? aka similiar to debian?
[20:52] <yofel> sgclark: why would we?
[20:53] <sgclark> I don't know. just saying last chance.
[20:53] <yofel> clivejo: either way is fine, I really don't care myself. 
[20:53] <yofel> if you want my opinion -> debian
[20:53] <yofel> sgclark: then lets leave it like this
[20:54] <sgclark> ok
[20:54] <clivejo> yofel: ok, Ill leave it like debian with a -bin package and leave usr/lib/*/qt5/plugins/kf5/kscreen/ in the main libkf5kscreen7.install
[20:55] <clivejo> since debian have it like that#
[21:09] <clivejo> can dput sometimes not work?
[21:10] <clivejo> ie locally it says it has, but LP doesnt ack it?
[21:16] <clivejo> soee: why arent you on yakkety?
[21:17] <yofel> one case where that would happen is when you signed the package with a GPG key that LP doesn't know about
 I think Bluskaj jumped to YY and I want to test backports before upgrading to YY
 I have to check if graphics drivers ppa has already builds for YY
 Oh it das .. wee :)
[21:25] <clivejo> nope, it knows about my key
[21:25] <clivejo> just very occasionally it fails to ack the upload
[21:30] <ahoneybun> sgclark ping
[21:30] <sgclark> ahoneybun: pong
[21:30] <ahoneybun> sgclark can you see everyone who backs your patreon thing?
[21:31] <sgclark> I get emails.
[21:31] <sgclark> of course than requires me to check my email
[21:31] <ahoneybun> mm
[21:31]  * sgclark is drowning in ruby
[21:31] <clivejo> eakk LP must be busy
[21:31] <clivejo> 40min wait
[21:32] <ahoneybun> https://twitter.com/ATHoneycutt/status/727955318467006464
[21:32] <sgclark> aww so sweet thank you ahoneybun
[21:32] <ahoneybun> get the hashtag going :)
[21:34] <valorie> tweeted
[21:35] <valorie> also just reported a security vuln on imagemagick
[21:35] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick/+bug/1578398 but you won't be able to read it
[21:35] <valorie> seeekrit
[21:36] <valorie> although https://imagetragick.com is public
[21:36] <yofel> the one that was all over the news today? ^^
[21:36] <sgclark> we dont package that do we?
[21:36] <yofel> NOPE
[21:36] <ahoneybun> we do I think
[21:36] <ahoneybun> ?
[21:36] <ahoneybun> used to
[21:36] <yofel> oops, sry
[21:36] <sgclark> I like yofels answer better
[21:36] <ahoneybun> thanks valorie
[21:37] <valorie> well, it's in the archive; I didn't file against kubuntu
[21:37] <valorie> just in general
[21:38] <valorie> yofel: I heard about it in #linuxchix, but I don't think that qualifies as "all over the news"
[21:39] <yofel> it was on 2 german IT news websites at least
[21:40] <valorie> good
[21:40] <valorie> might get fixed fast then
[21:42] <soee> someone of you is on YY?
[21:49] <valorie> I'm thinking about putting it on this one, if I buy my son's "old" laptop
[21:50] <valorie> otoh, not sure i can get xenial on it, since scarlett didn't succeed in doing so at LFNW
[21:54] <soee> the do-release-upgrade -d does not show new version
[21:57] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U%2B1/common-problems
[23:57] <clivejo> sgclark: ping
[23:57] <sgclark> clivejo: pong
[23:58] <clivejo> hey
[23:59] <clivejo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:59] <clivejo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-framework-dev_5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1_amd64.deb
[23:59] <clivejo> Looks to be symbols related