[11:47] <ahoneybun> anyone seen that email from A. Mani in the Mailing list?
[11:48] <ahoneybun> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2016-May/001223.html
[11:56] <ahoneybun> mhall119 here sorry
[12:15] <knome> o hai ahoneybun :)
[12:15] <knome> a few more questions about the DVD's...
[12:16] <knome> what are the details of the actual producting of those?
[12:16] <knome> and with what kind of policies - you said they would be mostly for locos - would that mean somebody at canonical would send them out (instead of sending them to the kubuntu team to send out)?
[12:17] <knome> also, if you have some photos of the previous covers in action, that would be nice to see - for planning our layout
[12:17] <knome> and yet another one... what's the DVD itself going to look? have you been able to affect the layout of that before?
[12:26] <jcastro> jose: ping
[13:14] <dholbach> posting the schedule to the social media
[15:19] <jose> jcastro: ponf
[15:19] <jose> pong
[15:20] <jcastro> jose: you should get an email with the REQ for SELF todayish
[15:20] <jcastro> lmk if you don't get it
[15:20] <jose> cool thanks!
[16:59] <dpm> oh wow, it seems folks are starting to pre-populate questions for Mark's Q&A in the etherpad
[16:59] <dpm> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22664/mark-shuttleworths-qa/
[17:03] <knome> dpm, any updates on the doc team leadership issue?
[17:05] <AuroraAvenue> dpm, that's myself :)
[17:06] <AuroraAvenue> I take it everyone's at lunch - or is there a secret hangout somewhere ?
[17:56] <dpm> knome, sorry, just came back from the break. We discussed it and I took an action to submit a proposal this week, based on the feedback from the last meeting, it's just been UOS, sorry
[18:44] <ahoneybun> knome mhall119 had a spreadsheet with prices, I'm not sure about the sending to LoCo thing
[18:45] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin in #kubuntu made 1 sleeve in black and white as a test
[18:58] <dpm> good work mhall119 and popey
[18:59] <popey> so many questions
[19:03] <Mister_Q> +1 good job
[19:03] <Mister_Q> he didn't answer the question about ubucon europe.. again :D
[19:58] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow again!
[20:52] <knome> mhall119, hello! as you might have seen, we've been talking about DVD's for kubuntu/xubuntu with ahoneybun; he mentioned you have more information about that (like prices), i'd like to have $all information please
[20:53] <mhall119> knome: it's from last year, so may not be accurate anymore, but I'll find the doc
[20:54] <knome> thanks
[20:54] <knome> anything we can get is useful
[20:54] <mhall119> knome: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HnooSpzP9p9cvql8GEQe7J-A1rNLq8qpRs_cH_gaZIk/edit?usp=sharing
[20:54] <knome> also if you happen to know more about the process, all information is welcome
[20:54] <mhall119> the cell in green was our favorite for a 15.10 run, but I think we can go bigger for 16.04
[20:54] <knome> pleia2, see the link mhall119 posted above
[20:55] <mhall119> knome: all I know is that this is the company Canonical used to print DVDs
[20:55] <knome> mhm
[20:55] <wxl> waaaait a minute
[20:55] <mhall119> we were going to have someone from Canonical (Tom McFarlan) place the order
[20:55] <wxl> oh man
[20:55] <knome> did kubuntu pay this from their own stash or did canonical help with the funding?
[20:55] <wxl> lubuntu wants in please :)
[20:57] <knome> mhall119, do *you* happen to have some photos of the actual product (to see how the layouting works in real life), or does the company have some examples?
[20:57] <mhall119> knome: nothing was done for 15.10, it was decided it wasn't worth doing it with an LTS coming so soon
[20:57] <mhall119> knome: but the plan was to use community donation funding to pay for it
[20:58] <knome> okay
[20:58] <mhall119> knome: do you have a 14.04 DVD? it's essentially that with different art
[20:58] <knome> what was the plan re: shipping to locos/other teams? does canonical handle that or flavors?
[20:58] <knome> no, we don't have any DVD's yet
[20:59] <mhall119> knome: we never got that far, but my plan was to ship them all to somebody in Kubuntu (aaron most likely) and leave it to them to decide how to dispurse them
[20:59] <knome> creating the art and getting it into the right layout isn't the problem, but it would be helpful to see how it plays out
[20:59] <knome> that sounds fair enough indeed
[21:00] <mhall119> knome: ahoneybun did the art for the Kubuntu ones, I think he used the Ubuntu 14.04 art as a template
[21:00] <knome> right - i saw the kubuntu layouts
[21:00] <knome> i have one specific question regarding the layout
[21:00] <knome> just a sec...
[21:01] <knome> so the art is at https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Artwork
[21:01] <knome> and i see two different fronts, and one back
[21:01] <knome> my logic says that in the back image, the smaller "slip" should be on the right side
[21:03] <mhall119> knome: the big cog is inside the sleeve where the DVD sits
[21:03] <mhall119> I believe the layout there is correct
[21:04] <knome> this is exactly why it would be helpful to see a visualization of the actual product
[21:04] <knome> is the company name a secret or can you share it, so i can look on their website for potential examples
[21:05] <mhall119> I doubt it's a secret, I just never bothered to ask since we were going to place the other through Canonical anyway
[21:05] <mhall119> and we did all this via msm, before she left
[21:05] <knome> ack
[21:08] <knome> mhall119, this -> http://design.canonical.com/2014/05/new-dvd-design-for-14-04-lts/ <- explains it a bit; maybe it's a mistake that the left side seems to be a "smaller" slip, as it seems to be the exact same size
[21:09] <knome> mhall119, am i correct in my assumption (that all the parts are same sized)?
[21:10] <knome> i mean i *have* seen a ubuntu dvd, but i've passed them out so quick that i have no clear memory how one looks..
[21:13] <mhall119> knome: they should all be the same size, yes
[21:14] <knome> ack
[21:15] <knome> also as you see in the photo, there seems to be two bends right next to the mouth of the sleeve
[21:16] <knome> would it be too much to ask that somebody contacted the company producing those DVDs and asked for exact specifications and requirements they have (including whether they accept inkscape exported, likely RGB, PDF)
[21:19]  * ahoneybun just got out of the Podcast 
[21:19] <knome> ahoneybun, if you have answers to the plethora of questions i asked, happy to hear from you too ;)
[21:20] <ahoneybun> there are a lot, yes lol
[21:20] <knome> don't worry, i can come up with a dozen more easily!
[21:20] <ahoneybun> I'm sure XD
[21:20] <ahoneybun> the passion is good though
[21:20] <knome> practically, if you have the exact requirements from the company, that's enough
[21:21] <knome> well, likely enough
[21:21] <knome> i do graphic design (along with a few other things) for living anyway :P
[21:21] <ahoneybun> then you would be better then me at it lol
[21:22] <knome> i'll leave others to judge that
[21:23]  * ahoneybun trys to find pictures 
[21:23]  * ahoneybun fails 
[21:23] <knome> ahoneybun, if http://design.canonical.com/2014/05/new-dvd-design-for-14-04-lts/ is what it is, then it's ok - i've figured it out
[21:23] <knome> but if it is, then it looks like there is something wrong in your template...
[21:23]  * knome hides
[21:24] <ahoneybun> I used the newest Kubuntu one as a template I think
[21:24] <ahoneybun> which was 11.04 I believe
[21:24] <knome> well you can see above what i think is the problem
[21:24] <knome> anyway, it seems like it would be better to confirm with the company at this point
[21:25] <ahoneybun> Tom's problem was that it did not follow the design of 14.04
[21:25] <knome> design of 14.04 in what way?
[21:25] <ahoneybun> which I said was that I went by KDE design
[21:25] <ahoneybun> that folding paper thing
[21:25] <knome> indeed
[21:25] <knome> so you *do* have the wrong template
[21:26] <ahoneybun> compared to 14.04, yes
[21:26] <knome> i repeat: it seems like it would be better to confirm with the company at this point
[21:26] <ahoneybun> ubuntu flavor wise
[21:26] <ahoneybun> well Tom I guess
[21:26] <ahoneybun> but he will say go by Ubuntu 14.04 design or 16.04 at this point
[21:26] <ahoneybun> all the same it is the same price to print
[21:26] <ahoneybun> pretty much
[21:27] <knome> i don't understand why flavors should use the ubuntu design
[21:27] <knome> i mean of course it would be preferrable if there was some kind of common ground, but exactly that design...
[21:27] <ahoneybun> we should follow our DE design
[21:27] <knome> indeed
[21:27] <knome> and the technical requirements
[21:27] <ahoneybun> ie XFCE, KDE, LXCE
[21:27] <knome> which is what we are missing ;)
[21:28] <knome> so who's tom and how do i get a hold of him?
[21:28] <ahoneybun> he is at the top of that post you linked
[21:28] <ahoneybun> :)
[21:28] <knome> aha!
[21:28] <ahoneybun> email, twitter, g+, facebook
[21:28] <ahoneybun> many ways lol
[21:29] <knome> tom.macfarlane@u ?
[21:29] <ahoneybun> canonical
[21:29] <knome> right, of course...
[21:58] <knome> ahoneybun, mhall119: YGM
[21:58] <knome> pleia2, ^
[21:58] <ahoneybun> mm?
[21:58] <knome> mail!
[21:59] <ahoneybun> k
[22:00] <knome> though no hurry (or need) to respond unless you feel like...
[22:08] <ahoneybun> I think it was right to the point and full of info
[22:09] <knome> as my mails usually, even if i say so ;)
[22:09] <knome> people have wasted enough of my time sending too long and useless mails - i don't want to do that to people
[22:09] <knome> on irc, on the other hand...
[22:47] <ahoneybun> mhall119 did you get a chance to look at that email?
[23:18] <mhall119> ahoneybun: the thread from A. Mani?
[23:18] <ahoneybun> yea
[23:18] <mhall119> I did, haven't had much time to think about a reply though
[23:20] <ahoneybun> k