[00:09] just curious, is this for a home computer and what are you using it for? [00:11] who mine? right now i'm simply trying to make it boot. the problem with my DNS system is i tunnel internet thru my laptop, since the wifi dongle i have is frosted flakes. the laptop doesn't forward DNS so after dhcp goes thru, i have to change the dns config to one layer up in NAT [00:16] but if you get it running, what are you going to use it for? [00:18] im just looking at getting my awsome ubuntu mate setup up to do something useful [00:18] got slow bandwith so i dont think fileserver is any point [00:18] maybe xmpp server is something to look into though [00:19] Hi Gallomimia [00:20] Maybe this'll help: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/the-ars-guide-to-building-a-linux-router-from-scratch/ [00:20] general desktop use, including gaming, personal serving, compiling... whatever [00:20] it's fairly loaded. lots of drives [00:21] tried ubuntu unity for a long while. that entire situation is a bit of a joke [00:21] all i have now is a 5 tb home network server, but as fast and stable this system is i want it to do more [00:21] unity looks nice, but it runs like a damn brick [00:21] its on 24/7 anyway [00:21] yeah. i prefer to leave mine on 24/7 [00:22] but the first incarnation it had an ATI card, with some kind of factory overclocked feature that didn't fit inside the normal drivers [00:22] this is the first distro that has been running flawless with my ATI card [00:22] came with windows only drivers. if any program made the wrong call to the driver, the entire desktop environment crashed [00:22] im not sure what kind of magic they've done [00:23] especially bitcoin miner program. which i was running just as an added heat source in my room >< [00:24] im not mining bitcoins, i want to do something for people for free [00:24] had to shut it down to do anything with the system. and shutting it down triggered a crash. kinda contrairy to running a linux distro at all eh? [00:24] That's as good a reason as many lol [00:24] xmpp is a descent idea [00:24] but i know 0 about setting it up, which to get etc [00:24] the jabber server? [00:24] xmpp shouldnt consume much bandwith either [00:24] yeah [00:24] it *IS* a decent idea. but it's implemented with XML [00:24] lame. [00:24] meaning? [00:24] i was just talking with some folks in another channel for a game... [00:25] irc is still here. not going away any time soon [00:25] eggdrop bot [00:25] i figured xmpp would take off and we'd be using that instead of telephones or skype or anything [00:25] one thing i'd like to set up is multiseat [00:26] thing is [00:26] this thing has 2 monitors, and enough power to run 2 of any older game [00:26] when i ran linux mint for a few years i had only that one laptop [00:26] play with a friend [00:26] i never experimented much with servers and networks [00:26] now i have this massive 5 tb desktop [00:26] well, i've found out the hard way... there's but one way to learn those things [00:26] to yes, experiment, and to also generate some kind of need to learn it [00:27] TheMarius, if you wanna do something for people for free... There's Boinc. [00:27] my favorite communication protocol to date is mumble [00:27] whats boinc? [00:27] never had a linux install that ran well on this until this ubuntu mate 16.04 ... therefore this is more interesting now ... and i love the way linux works, with mounting into directories etc [00:27] Gallomimia, distributed computing for research projects [00:27] oh yeah [00:27] neato [00:27] ouroumov, irc bouncer so i get banned? no thanks [00:28] Here's an example of project you can donate CPU time to: https://mindmodeling.org/ [00:28] like seti@home or protien folding, but for anything [00:28] TheMarius, I think you mistook what I was talking about xD [00:28] Gallomimia, yes [00:28] TheMarius: first of all, it's not a bouncer, and second, they don't get you banned. in fact i'm using one now [00:29] and since we're on the subject of drives [00:29] xmpp and a eggdrop bot are the 2 ideas i have [00:29] i'd like to show off my rig: [00:29] i've got 3x 2tb drives in a raid5 [00:29] and i've also got a single 3tb drive. i have a pair of those [00:29] owncloud was a good idea but this network is too slow.. if fiber ever gets here to farmville ill set that up [00:29] but the other two sata ports on my board are populated with SSDs [00:29] nice rig [00:29] whoa what [00:29] what is owncloud? [00:30] cause i've been wanting something named that for awhile [00:30] Gallomimia, like dropbox only with as much storage as you want [00:30] set up on your home server [00:30] yeah awesome [00:30] exactly what i want [00:30] wait what? is it free? [00:30] thumbs up for that [00:30] ofcourse.. you use your own diskspace [00:30] awesome [00:31] google it and get working then :) got the tip from someone here a couple of days ago [00:31] hi alla [00:31] but with 3 mbit or what it is here, its useless [00:31] hi freakjota [00:31] lol [00:32] yeah i've got less than that right now [00:32] i have 10 mbit.. but i have a crappy pc [00:32] but soon i hope it'll be more [00:32] oh ok [00:32] k. gotta get back to plowing food into my face. need my hands, so i watch TV [00:32] do u know how to quick search for apps in mate [00:33] ok [00:35] who me? no [00:36] barely used it. ran an install [00:45] 3 mbit is just enough to watch youtube in 480p [00:45] or netflix in "moderate" resolution [00:45] thats it [00:46] however its fine for me... i dont need more [00:48] just wonder what im going to use this server for, and the 5 tb of diskspace :/ [00:48] must be something useful [00:51] actually i can hook up 2.5 tb more [00:51] which would make it 7.5 tb [00:52] im out of warez and that sort of things [00:54] TheMarius, you wanna find use for what, your disk space? Your Internet connection? Your CPU? [00:57] everything [00:57] server ideas basically [00:58] never mind... ill keep looking [00:58] So distributed computing for your CPU, such as seti@home, Seeding the ubuntu torrents for your bandwidth, And Incremental backup of your machines for the disk space [00:59] That'd me my go-to [01:00] k :) noted [01:00] i know someone who plays with AI, neural nets [01:01] Gallomimia, gotta have a nice GPU for that [01:01] actually he's got cpu cores galore [01:01] oh :o [01:01] Xeon-like? [01:02] yeah i think so [01:03] he told me the specs. E5 something something [01:03] dual cpu, hexcore +HT [01:03] can't remember exactly. reams of ram [01:03] Sounds expensive [01:04] howdy ri [01:04] hi shantorn [01:05] hi there [01:05] i miss typed the entry sorry [01:05] i usually just watch and learn [01:06] You're welcome to do so. xD [01:07] Though this is not an overly active channel so it might be a while till there's something worth watching x) [01:08] shantorn, you're a new Ubuntu MATE user? [01:09] not really, been using it since 15.04, used to always use mint mate but i feel the ubuntu version is a bit nappier [01:09] snapier [01:09] and i have been using 16.04 since beta one and i just love the software boutique [01:10] Yeah, the "Welcome" thing as a whole is awesome [01:13] i have to learn about the ubuntu way to set up my optimus graphic on my laptop [01:13] Holly crap: http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/05/easily-exploited-bug-exposes-huge-number-of-sites-to-code-execution-attacks/ [01:19] i finally got my ubuntu mate install to boot, but it doesn't log in. [01:19] typing the password causes some kind of flicker, and returns to the login screen [01:19] i need some help getting resolvconf setup on command line. fix DNS [01:21] Gallomimia, you've asked on the forums yet? [01:40] i shouldn't need to ask. there should be something i can find [01:40] shantorn, I remember seeing a few post about optimus on the forums [01:41] Gallomimia, you've managed to log in? [01:41] sure. just press ctrl+alt+f1 and you get a text console [01:42] not very helpful when trying to edit graphical based settings [01:42] So you should be able to interface with the network manager using nmcli [01:42] ah that'll help yes [01:42] DNS resolving is set up automatically when using DHCP [01:42] Are you using static addressing? [01:43] no. it sets up auto with dhcp [01:43] but.... [01:43] the dns info it gets is dead wrong [01:46] And you're sure it's not your router's fault? :x [01:46] i'm absolutely sure it's my router's fault [01:46] you see my router is this laptop [01:47] the wireless dongle i have for my desktop is absolute drek. so i tether it to this, which gives dhcp, but no dns [01:47] thanks ouroumov [01:47] yet it still passes a dns value of itself [01:48] i really don't need to talk about networking theory. i just want to set the nameserver address [01:48] why is it so hard?? [01:51] Gallomimia, "nmcli c mod uuid +ipv4.dns 8.8.4.4" [01:51] what's uuid? [01:51] Where uuid is obtained from the list "nmcli c show" [01:53] ouroumov: there's no way i'm going to type all that out [01:53] Yeah, I feel your pain. I'm looking up the documentation for hints as to how to show the id for a connection [01:55] Error: invalid field 'id'; allowed fields: NAME,UUID,TYPE,TIMESTAMP,TIMESTAMP-REAL,AUTOCONNECT,AUTOCONNECT-PRIORITY,READONLY,DBUS-PATH,ACTIVE,DEVICE,STATE,ACTIVE-PATH. -_- [01:56] so yeah [01:56] if i could just use some bash-fu to cut and paste that value in... [01:57] fek it i'll just painstakingly type it all out [01:57] no copy and paste for me... [01:57] VARIABLE=`nmcli c show | grep wlp2s0 | rev | cut -d' ' -f2 | rev` [01:57] or, i could check some logs about why the GUI doesn't work [01:57] for the wlp2s0 interface [01:58] not quite the name of mine but... [01:58] might as well type out the uuid instead of all that :P [01:58] Sure, it'll be different based on your hardware [01:58] Gallomimia, I know right? x) [01:59] OH! [01:59] nmcli -f UUID c [01:59] what's that do? [02:00] anyway, i tried the first command. no luck [02:00] just prints the UUID, you can grep for the first characters then [02:00] yeah neat [02:01] Gallomimia, the DNS command? [02:01] still no dns [02:01] yep. [02:01] Try and remove the "+", that way dns servs are replaced, not added to [02:02] still nothing [02:02] and it disturbs me that i can't seem to view the dns servers [02:02] ? [02:03] i can't poll any system to find out what dns servers it's using? [02:03] hm, no idea [02:04] Is there any problem if I install pppoeconf in Ubuntu MATE 16.04? [02:05] that's funny. i can login just fine with a guest session [02:05] the heck is up with that? [02:05] I mean, could it conflict with any Internet connection configuration package? [02:05] oh. i bet it's cause my home dir is populated with settings already [02:06] Nosophorus, you've got an old dls modem? [02:06] ouroumov: This modem is a Thomsom Speedtouch [02:07] Almost half a decade of use [02:07] Problem is whatever I can find online dates back to Ubuntu v9 [02:08] I remember one dude on the forum mentioning pppoe and he had problems [02:09] ouroumov: My worry is that pppoeconf may conflict with the nice and smooth app Xenial uses to connect and configure my connection. [02:09] It simply runs smooth and by the numbers. [02:10] it does? [02:10] i've only been using mate for a half a day and i've found the default stuff conflicts with itself. i'm going to suggest gingerly that you'll be fine [02:11] I don't know. I've just installed pppoeconf. I hope it doesn't. [02:11] Nosophorus, and obviously you're connected already, I don't understand very well what you want to do: set up a secondary connection using an old modem? [02:12] ouroumov: I have been using pppoeconf since my first Ubuntu install (2007). I installed it just in case I need a backup method to configure my connection. [02:12] Gallomimia, I think your problem is with the Ubuntu base [02:12] Nosophorus, alright [02:12] well see, the real problem i'm having is my old home still exists, with same uid and all the old files [02:13] so it causes some bump when i try to login [02:13] Gallomimia, so why don't you move it? [02:13] i'm just going to copy it all out of there [02:13] Yeah [02:13] By the way, this new Ubuntu MATE 16.04 Xenial Xerus is much better than the previous LTS. The computer resources usage is pretty much optimized in this version. [02:14] Chiefly the RAM usage has improved a lot. [02:15] Nosophorus, yeah there's been a lot of improvements [02:15] there. [02:15] One thing I'd like to see is the option to select the kind of world map used in the clock app. [02:16] Nosophorus, you should post your feedback in the forum [02:16] This place is more transient so your feature request will lack visibility here [02:17] ouroumov: I'll do that. I taking note of everything I think would be useful and I'll show it to the Ubuntu MATE guys and gals. [02:17] ^^ [02:17] *I'm taking note.. . [02:19] i got one question about ubuntu mirrors. my favorite mirror is missing from the list [02:19] most of the packages that get fetched come from the same set as regular ubuntu tho. what gives? [02:20] Gallomimia, is that abnormal? [02:20] nothing's normal. i'm using a completely new system [02:21] but yeah. the mirror i used to use for ubuntu was in the same city as the HQ for my ISP [02:21] fast didn't begin to describe it [02:21] well, nothing's fast on this ISP. stupid dsl :( [02:21] but the cable company... wow it would go [02:22] When you say "used to" we're talking what, last month? [02:22] last time i had this system running. maybe 2 weeks ago [02:22] for years [02:23] Gallomimia, last system was 16.04? [02:23] no it was 14.04 [02:23] i'm consulting the site of the mirror now [02:23] i think i'll drop them a mail [02:25] Gallomimia, maybe you can replace the mirror urls in /etc/apt/sources.list [02:25] After having backed it up, oc [02:25] maybe. i'll not worry about it for now since the default server is saturating my link anyway [02:25] as i said, DSL sucks [02:25] Okay [02:25] but i'll be moving back to my favorite ISP [02:26] and their HQ is in the same city as this mirror. the network topology favors it for sure [02:38] sweet. 16.04 has properly up to date nvidia drivers in the default repos [02:38] and why is grub so..... [02:38] graphic-y? [02:39] Yeah, well, it gets updated too [02:40] I don't really care for it [02:42] me either. cause it hangs now that i've installed those drivers. [02:42] ....why?? [02:42] it was working! [02:42] ! [02:43] That can't be the driver's fault though [03:14] i don't get it [03:14] i didn't change much else. it froze on the unlock crypto screen [03:14] oh. well i did install steam. and that came with a boatload of other stuff [03:14] i seem to remember having a few odd grub options in my previous setup [03:15] What crypto system are you using? FDE or home folder encryption? [03:15] fde [03:15] my LVM is inside a luks contianer [03:18] recovery mode worked [03:18] wish i knew why... [03:19] Boy I don't think I've seen anyone have as much trouble with this than you [03:19] pfft. this was nothing [03:19] took me 6 months to get things to run at all [03:20] putting it on a raid was kinda silly [03:20] now i still have to involve the ssd's as cache and swap [03:20] seems pointless to have a cache and a swap that aren't encrypted right? [03:21] i mean, why bother to have crypto at all if there's an unencrypted disk right there with everything you need [03:21] now. let's see if the second monitor will work [03:22] I find having a swap at all is pointless, but well that's just me [03:44] hola [03:45] mo puedo conectarme a internat via wifi, solo via cableado [03:46] hi jaime [03:47] jaime, I don't speak that language, sorry. But I get you have a wifi problem so do that: [03:47] jaime, type in a terminal opened with CTRL+ALT+T the command: "lshw -C network" [03:48] jaime, get from the output the wifi card model and driver [03:48] Then google "ubuntu " [03:51] thanks , I 'm looking right now [04:05] hey is there any simple undelete programs installed on MATE? [04:05] Not that I know of [04:06] accidentally started an rm on the wrong steam folder [04:06] it'd be better to undelete than redownload :/ [04:06] thought i saw one... [04:07] Filerecovery tools are never simple to use anyway [04:07] yeah... [04:09] wow i hate how steam does things [04:10] i mean, they get the games working, but controlling things, settings, the UI, all of that is horrible. [04:12] !@#!@ [04:12] so annoying. [04:12] oh well. seems to be working [04:13] ok what's with the window managers [04:13] which are "good" which are bad? [04:13] i changed it to compiz, but i think that's the reason i wanted to switch away from unity [04:13] Use Marco + Compton [04:14] thx [04:14] It's not heavy on eye-candy but it does the job [04:15] don't really need eye candy right? [04:15] yup [04:15] what i need is for the fullscreen apps to work :P [04:15] That and vsync [04:15] Only reasons to use a compositor [04:16] and now, i just want to turn off the workspaces. can you guide me to that? [04:18] Gallomimia, weird, but OK [04:18] You should have a workspace switcher applet in the lower panel, on the right [04:18] having 2 monitors doesn't really lend itself well to using more than one workspace [04:18] ah, preferences [04:19] ound it [04:19] Right click preference -> Number of workspaces = 1 [04:19] great thanks [04:19] I have two monitors and 8 workspaces xD [04:19] yeah i've tried a few systems with workspaces. it can be useful, but it sucks i find, if you want your chat on one screen and others... [04:19] well maybe you can tell me how you work all that [04:20] Well my workspaces are basically zones in which I do stuff [04:21] yeah i like that kind of thing [04:21] i could get used to them [04:21] Programming area, ssh sessions area for server admin, webbrowsing, media, etc [04:22] but i tend to use one of my monitors for dedicated things. like music, chat, steam window [04:22] while my main monitor either has a game, or browser [04:22] terminals can be either [04:22] i'll try workspaces later sometime [04:22] just because you said so :P [04:23] can you lock certain windows or programs to all workspaces? [04:23] Yes [04:23] that might become useful [04:23] Currently I have the IRC chat locked set so it follows the current workspace [04:24] hm. need menu bar on both screens [04:25] I don't think you can do that in the current version of the OS [04:26] that's too bad. i can't even seem to get it on my main monitor [04:26] it was in monitors settings for ubuntu unity [04:26] Yeah it's in display settings [04:27] Oh actually I found a way to have other panels [04:28] It's not a clone though, it's a different panel [04:28] Right click on a panel and select "new panel" [04:28] ah. neat [04:28] In panel properties set the orientation [04:28] Then uncheck "expand" [04:29] Then by grabbing the extremities of the panel, you can drag it where you want [04:29] when i uncheck expand, there are no extremities, it disappears [04:30] ah ok. before changing orientation i can move it to the other screen [04:31] ok so i got a panel. i wonder if i can find some way to clone the contents of the other [04:32] well, that's a lot of stuff to worry about another time i think [04:32] I don't think there's a way, you gotta duplicate the applets because they're assigned a panel [04:32] i'll look into it another time [04:35] there's a lot to set up! [04:37] quassel! now i can type on my better machine. [04:38] yeah things are much better [04:39] heh. nuked a couple games :/ [05:06] well thanks for chatting with me ouroumov. for the time being it seems things are working. tho i had to use recovery mode to boot. [05:07] yeah [05:07] I'm curious to know how that's even working [05:07] oh yeah me too [05:07] I mean point of FDE is that it's not possible to bypass [05:08] oh, it asks me to unlock it in the old text version [05:08] ah [05:08] before it even gets to the recovery menu. then i select boot as normal [05:08] i mean.... i haven't tried rebooting since then [05:08] Did you do a full system update / upgrade? [05:14] fresh install [05:14] on a new LVM [05:14] so, i still have the old one, but it didn't work [05:14] gave up on fixing it and decided well, 16.04 is out [05:14] then i started thinking about my dissatisfaction with unity and musings about it in other channels [05:15] thought, hey i'll try a different flavor while i'm at it [05:15] and here i am [06:38] hello there [06:38] i have a question [06:39] is there anyone to help me please on ubuntu mate [06:44] hello lichen [06:44] how are you [06:46] too bad [08:35] sabe alguien resolver problemas audio en mac ppc g5? [08:36] !english [08:37] tengo mate 16 ppc y me encanta ,ok [08:39] You know someone solve audio problems ppc mac g5? [08:39] I kill 16 ppc and love, ok [08:41] I have a 2 screen television 32 'and the colors are distorted, be a solution? thank you very much [08:42] fogar: what's the output of this command? [08:42] xrandr [08:42] Put it in pastebin... [08:44] Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2640 x 1024, maximum 4096 x 4096 [08:44] DVI-I-1 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 340mm x 270mm [08:44] 1280x1024 75.02*+ 60.02 [08:44] 1024x768 75.08 70.07 60.00 [08:44] 832x624 74.55 [08:44] 800x600 72.19 75.00 60.32 56.25 [08:44] 640x480 75.00 72.81 66.67 60.00 [08:44] 720x400 70.08 [08:44] DVI-I-2 connected 1360x768+1280+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm [08:44] 1360x768 60.02*+ [08:44] 1280x720 60.00 50.00 59.94 [08:44] 1024x768 60.00 [08:44] 800x600 60.32 [08:44] 720x576 50.00 [08:44] 720x480 60.00 59.94 [08:44] 640x480 60.00 59.94 [08:44] 720x400 70.08 [08:44] Use http://paste.ubuntu.com [08:45] problen is dvi-i-2 [08:45]