[10:37] <Zic> hi, I read that, in Unity 8, the devteam will port "QML to C++", but can you explain a little bit: AFAIK, QML is just for the UI part, and C++ was used for "logic/core" code in all Unity 8 apps
[10:37] <Zic> so, it's just "porting" the UI/QML part directly to C++?
[11:27] <Saviq> Zic, not sure where you've read that, but the plan is basically to port some heavier QML components to C++ for performance reasons
[11:52] <Zic> Saviq: on the developers blog :)
[11:52] <Zic> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2016/03/23/ride-us-road-ui-toolkit-20/
[11:53] <Saviq> Zic, so that's about the SDK, but yes, the principle is the same - and they've already been doing that for a few components
[12:17] <mterry_> mzanetti, I was just using authenticator on a newly flashed phone.  Went to the camera bit, and when I clicked "Allow" on the trust dialog for the camera, my phone rebooted...  :-/
[12:17] <mterry_> mzanetti, probably not authenticators fault though
[12:18] <mzanetti> oh wow :D
[12:18] <mzanetti> that sounds like it smashed the android side of things
[12:19] <mterry_> mzanetti, oooh, it seems repeatable?
[12:19] <mterry_> this is on arale
[12:19] <mzanetti> mterry_, you want to track down someone in #phablet I think
[12:19] <mterry_> k
[12:20] <mzanetti> mterry_, fwiw, all authenticator does is to use a "Camera {}" element and a VideoOutput {} for it. not even taking pictures or anything
[12:20] <mzanetti> just displaying it
[12:22] <Zic> Saviq: thanks for your answer :)
[12:30] <tsdgeos> cimi: more stuff to fix https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/uitkPageHeader/+merge/293608/comments/753501
[12:41] <cimi> tsdgeos, fixed
[12:54] <tsdgeos> cimi: sorry found another thing ^_^
[12:55] <tsdgeos> cimi: while fixing it, could you also add a space to "contents:Item {"
[13:56] <tsdgeos> cimi: you need to merge & fix the card creator tests from https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/card-social/+merge/289663
[13:56] <tsdgeos> cimi: ideally "now"
[14:24] <pstolowski> cimi, hey, can you do that fix? it's under QA now but needed rebuilding due to recent unity8 landing... and now it fails, need to sort to out to unblock qa
[14:25] <cimi> pstolowski, tsdgeos literally just pushed now
[14:25] <cimi> pstolowski, tsdgeos just testCardCreator was failing?
[14:25] <Saviq> pstolowski, there's another unity8 landing under QA right now
[14:28] <pstolowski> oh
[14:28] <cimi> tsdgeos, on https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/uitkPageHeader/+merge/293608/comments/753507 what should have the focus?
[14:37] <cimi> tsdgeos, for me the behavior is correct :))
[14:37] <tsdgeos> it is not
[14:37] <tsdgeos> it's basically the same as when you press on a result
[14:37] <cimi> tsdgeos, imagine you type something to search, then you click on filters, you reclick and you go back where you left
[14:38] <tsdgeos> cimi: you reclick where?
[14:38] <cimi> tsdgeos, no because I closed the filters popup
[14:38] <cimi> tsdgeos, I get the departments navigation back
[14:38] <tsdgeos> why should you?
[14:40] <tsdgeos> i mean it's not like you cancelled or anything
[14:46] <cimi> tsdgeos, have a look, to me it feels "let's go back where it started"
[14:46] <cimi> tsdgeos, mail
[14:48] <Saviq> pstolowski, sorry about that... apparently people don't care about social things - they do about WiDi, though....
[14:49] <tsdgeos> cimi: that just works because you clicked again on the "filters" icon
[14:49] <tsdgeos> and in your mind you closed them
[14:49] <tsdgeos> cimi: now click down of the filters popup
[14:50] <cimi> tsdgeos, but even if I press elsewhere in my mind I closed them
[14:50] <cimi> no?
[14:50] <tsdgeos> cimi: of course you did, why do departments show again?
[14:52] <cimi> tsdgeos, in the last one I just sent, you expect *everything* to close?
[14:52] <cimi> tsdgeos, basically go back to beginning instead showing departments?
[14:52] <tsdgeos> cimi: i expect it to behave like it does without your branch
[14:52] <tsdgeos> we're swapping one component for another
[14:52] <tsdgeos> not changign the behaviour
[14:53] <cimi> tsdgeos, I agree on that - I was just wondering if this new "unwanted" behavior was more correct
[14:53] <tsdgeos> cimi: since we disagree on wheter it's beter or not i guess you'll have to invoke Patricia :D
[14:55] <tsdgeos> Saviq: honestly the important part on that silo is not social cards but "qml preview models are much more awesome now"
[14:56] <tsdgeos> Saviq: and i'm pretty sure all our users would appreciate that
[14:56] <tsdgeos> not the handful of ones we actually are giving WiDi to
[14:57] <Saviq> tsdgeos, pstolowski, we're gonna land at least one more silo for unity8 OTA11, so not all is lost
[14:57] <Saviq> assuming there's no strings in 71
[14:59] <tsdgeos> think not
[14:59]  * tsdgeos demands independence :D
[14:59] <tsdgeos> now seriously, a separate package for the dash may actually make the landigns easier?
[14:59] <pstolowski> Saviq, nope, no strings. yes, we need to land this... a couple of fixes there too, plus some improvements PM wanted
[15:01] <Saviq> tsdgeos, not impossbile
[15:01] <tsdgeos> i guess there's some stuff we share thought
[15:01] <tsdgeos> -t
[15:01] <tsdgeos> like qml/Components
[15:01] <tsdgeos> so not trivial either
[16:59] <om26er> morphis, Hi!
[20:03] <zzarr> hello! where are the log files for unity8 stored?
[20:04] <zzarr> apps crash when I launch them
[20:17] <om26er> Saviq, around ?
[20:18] <om26er> Saviq, unity8 session does not start after latest updates from the overlay ppa
[20:54] <mterry_> josharenson, I saw the slim greeter branch got a code update -- is that ready for a re-look?
[20:55] <josharenson> mterry_: no, just keeping it current. There is a vterm issue with mir that I thought was resolved in 0.23, but its not
[20:55] <mterry_> gotcha
[20:55] <josharenson> mterry_: Its regressed, won't run under mir at all now
[20:56] <mterry_> :(
[20:56]  * josharenson is frustrated
[20:57]  * mterry_ gives josharenson a shoulder rub
[20:57] <josharenson> haha
[20:57]  * josharenson feels marginally better
[20:57] <mterry_> :)
[20:58] <Saviq> mterry_, we were discussing with josharenson it might be time for you to actually flip ownership of those as he's getting further and further away from it
[20:58] <Saviq> wdyt?
[20:58] <josharenson> mterry_: also robert looked at the lightdm patch I pushed to fix xmir, and it might not be necessary anymore, but I can't test it until mir works
[20:59] <mterry_> Saviq, uh sure?  I'd have to get up to speed again, but ok
[20:59] <Saviq> mterry_, I just feel you know more of the road ahead by now so can make more informed calls
[21:00] <Saviq> your guys' call
[21:00] <Saviq> I can see us pushing for landing this after OTA11 is cut
[21:01] <mterry_> Saviq, yeah makes sense.  I bet josharenson is tired of greeter by now too.  :)  josharenson, we can just trade off each year until it lands in 2020
[21:01] <Saviq> :D
[21:01] <josharenson> Saviq: I want to be able to land the branches I have now, but I need mir help
[21:01] <josharenson> mterry_: haha
[21:06] <Saviq> josharenson, do you have a PoC in Mir team or need some help getting their hands on?
[21:07] <josharenson> Saviq: RAOF pointed me to the fix the other day, but it didn't work for me
[21:08] <Saviq> josharenson, suppose he should be around soon?
[21:08] <josharenson> Saviq: yeah, I'll try and ping him in an hour or two
[21:08] <Saviq> but then you're closing in to your EOD
[21:08] <josharenson> Saviq: meh
[21:09] <josharenson> good excuse to not go to the gym today
[23:33] <RAOF> josharenson: That ‘use /dev/tty0’ patch didn't fix your problem? Yay (:
[23:33] <RAOF> :(