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constnt | snapcraft | 13:48 |
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CrookedHillary | what is this room for | 16:04 |
anickname | Hello. How is everyone? | 16:12 |
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AuroraAvenue | Hi Mark :) | 16:47 |
AuroraAvenue | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1605-mark-shuttleworths-qa | 16:50 |
AuroraAvenue | Is this starting now ? | 17:00 |
AuroraAvenue | Maybe it's at 7pm GMT ? | 17:05 |
ventrical | g'day evryone:) | 17:28 |
popey | Yo yo! | 17:30 |
mcphail | I presume it is OK to lurk in here without registering for UOS? | 17:30 |
ventrical | yep .. thats me :) | 17:30 |
Sanjay | hi | 17:31 |
ventrical | hi Sanjay | 17:31 |
AuroraAvenue | Hi popey, cheers for the edits. | 17:31 |
Sanjay | are you mark | 17:31 |
ventrical | no.... but he'll be here... | 17:32 |
Sanjay | when | 17:32 |
AuroraAvenue | Mark usually appears as his own namer although his IRC comments never make it into logs ;-) | 17:32 |
ventrical | bout 25 mins | 17:32 |
ventrical | k .. got to finish lunch .. im starved.. | 17:33 |
Sanjay | ventrical who are you | 17:34 |
AuroraAvenue | Doing a hangout before the show if anyone's interested :) http://ow.ly/4nqrDT | 17:34 |
Sanjay | sorry frnds i m new here please help me | 17:35 |
popey | mcphail: sure | 17:35 |
AuroraAvenue | Sanjay: Just go here & wait 25 minutes :) http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22664/mark-shuttleworths-qa/ | 17:35 |
mcphail | popey: ta | 17:36 |
ventrical | Sanjay I am Dale Beaudoin ... team captian of Ubuntu Development version testing at ubuntuforums.org | 17:37 |
mcphail | Actually, do I have to register to see the live stream? Is the youtube window only active post hoc? | 17:37 |
popey | no | 17:38 |
ventrical | it will just come up | 17:38 |
mcphail | cool | 17:38 |
AuroraAvenue | Yeah, where's the tube video address ? | 17:38 |
popey | It will appear at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22664/mark-shuttleworths-qa/ | 17:38 |
ventrical | its still early.. | 17:38 |
Sanjay | hello dale i m also a linux fan i love it from my heart. i also want to be a part of it. can you tell me how? | 17:40 |
ventrical | note : Ubuntu Development VersionTesting not to be confused with Canonical Q/A | 17:40 |
ventrical | Sanjay You can go to www.ubuntuforums.org and join up there . There are lots of help echos and forums and you do not have to be a member to get helps with all questions for ubuntu flavours. | 17:42 |
Sanjay | thanks | 17:43 |
ventrical | Sanjay Ubutuforums also has extremely large knowledge base. | 17:44 |
Sanjay | how can i make career in linux | 17:45 |
popey | blimey, there's a lot of money related questions in there AuroraAvenue | 17:45 |
popey | and some dupes from our Q&A | 17:45 |
popey | maybe cover some other bases. | 17:45 |
popey | if people want to ask Mark questions, feel free to get them in early here, prefix with QUESTION: :) | 17:46 |
AuroraAvenue | popey, Put an 'X' next to the ones you don't count as 'tenable' and I shall delete them :) | 17:46 |
popey | nah, I just won't use them | 17:47 |
popey | I think you can self edit your own questions | 17:47 |
dholbach | go go go! | 17:47 |
* popey tickles dholbach | 17:48 | |
* dholbach hugs popey | 17:48 | |
ventrical | QUESTION: I don't mean to sound like a broken record but are we going to get snappy-personal-images soon? Thank you.:) | 17:49 |
popey | :) | 17:50 |
mhall119 | wow, lots of questions already | 17:50 |
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ventrical | I want snappy personal so bad I can tase it :) | 17:50 |
ventrical | Thanks Michael! | 17:51 |
zyga | ventrical: as soon as they are ready probably :) | 17:52 |
nhaines | I just stickied a link to the Q&A video at /r/Ubuntu. | 17:55 |
ventrical | zyga hehe umm I ws hoping for something more definitive. My apologies.. I just have high hopes and a difficult time to curb my enthusiasms:) | 17:55 |
mcphail | QUESTION: Congratulations on making Ubuntu an innovative and exciting platform for development. Is there a plan to fully and comprehensively document the SDK, Mir and snappy? Just now, the documentation is not as good as competing projects | 17:55 |
zyga | ventrical: I'm sure we all do, I don't know anything more | 17:56 |
ventrical | zyga .. thanks | 17:56 |
zyga | mcphail: we discussed documentation today and there are concrete plans to improve snappy and snapcraft docs | 17:56 |
mcphail | zyga: brilliant | 17:56 |
AuroraAvenue | nhaines: bit late - it was already in the 1st ten posts. | 17:57 |
zyga | mcphail: we also will gladly take contributions from the community so feel free to poke as in #snappy for concrete ideas | 17:57 |
mcphail | zyga: smashing. The a great first step would be to flesh out the man page for "snap" on 16.04 desktop | 17:58 |
AuroraAvenue | popey, Good question - hope you get your "Ubuntu Mate" mentioning thingy | 17:58 |
zyga | mcphail: the manual page is automatically generated, I just had a look at it and it could use some love | 17:58 |
nhaines | AuroraAvenue: "stickying" it makes it more visible and easier to find. If you sticky it too early then everyone's asking for time zone conversions or complaining there's no video. | 17:58 |
mcphail | zyga: :) | 17:58 |
mcphail | zyga: it took me 2 days to realise it performed the same function as the "snappy" command on core ;p | 17:59 |
zyga | mcphail: it is the new incarnation of snappy command | 17:59 |
zyga | mcphail: I think this was discussed on the mailing list but I agree we can always use more visibility :) | 18:00 |
zyga | ok, time to start :) | 18:00 |
popey | Get yer questions in... | 18:02 |
popey | prefix with QUESTION: for maximum satisfaction | 18:02 |
t1mp | do I need to reload the page or should it start automatically? | 18:02 |
popey | it should | 18:02 |
rk | why Ubuntu doesn't update like windows 10 | 18:02 |
nhaines | QUESTION: Would you visit space again in the future? What is your favorite memory of Mir? | 18:02 |
zyga | QUESTION: where do you see ubuntu in 5 years from now | 18:03 |
popey | rk: what? without asking, during presentations? | 18:03 |
nhaines | t1mp: if it says "Live stream is starting soon," you're all good. | 18:03 |
nhaines | popey: that's the best way. | 18:03 |
t1mp | nhaines: okay :) | 18:03 |
popey | π | 18:04 |
popey | or during weather reports on live TV | 18:04 |
justCarakas | is it me or hasn't it started yet ? | 18:04 |
popey | justCarakas: it is not you | 18:04 |
Amar | hasnt started yet | 18:04 |
sebsebseb | hi | 18:04 |
popey | (on this occasion) | 18:04 |
popey | hello sebsebseb | 18:04 |
mcphail | QUESTION: Deepmind has been give access to millions of patient records in the NHS. Is free/opensource software lagging behind the curve in healthcare? Do you have ambitions to change the situation? Where do you feel free solutions would be better? | 18:04 |
sebsebseb | popey: hi | 18:04 |
justCarakas | nice addition popey :p | 18:04 |
nik011 | QUESTION: What is your favorite ubuntu touch app, what is your favorite ubuntu phone and what is your thoughts on the ubports project? | 18:04 |
ventrical | we want rocket man !! | 18:04 |
sebsebseb | uh already questions and Mark isn't even there yet? | 18:04 |
Amar | doesn't hurt to get ahead sebsebseb :) | 18:04 |
popey | sebsebseb: it's all under control :) | 18:04 |
ventrical | here he is | 18:04 |
popey | fret ye not | 18:05 |
AuroraAvenue | refresh browsers - he's on ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_5WArtEFaU | 18:05 |
erio | it's connected | 18:05 |
dholbach | go go go! :) | 18:05 |
zyga | live | 18:05 |
zyga | works! | 18:05 |
nhaines | sebsebseb: yes, that's how we don't have dead air. ;) | 18:05 |
popey | \o/ | 18:05 |
justCarakas | its live | 18:05 |
popey | mhall119: i see you not him | 18:05 |
nhaines | Slides? Do we get to see his holiday photos? :) | 18:05 |
popey | oh, okay now | 18:05 |
yahn | QUESTION: The content of your recent talks/interviews seems to be largely focussed around cloud/server computing (openstack, juju, MAAS etc). Are you still as passionate about Ubuntu in the personal computing space as you were when you started the project? | 18:06 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: Mark, what do you think about the Hud and how would you like it to be intergreated into unity8? | 18:06 |
mariogrip | QUESTION: are you coming to ubucon EU? | 18:06 |
Mister_Q | ChloeWolfieGirl \o/ | 18:06 |
mushrooms | hi all, is live? | 18:06 |
Amar | yes | 18:06 |
mhall119 | can everyone see Mark's slides? | 18:06 |
zyga | yes | 18:06 |
nhaines | mhall119: yes we can. | 18:06 |
AuroraAvenue | yep. | 18:06 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: All ubuntu animals are fighting eachother, which wins? | 18:06 |
nhaines | mushrooms: it's just started. | 18:06 |
erio | yes! seeing Congratulations on 16.04 | 18:06 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: Do you own a zoo, how do you get the ideas for version names? | 18:07 |
sebsebseb | QUESTION: How do you come up with all those animal names for releases, been loads already, and should be more to come | 18:07 |
dobey | yes i see pixels | 18:07 |
erio | I want to see answer to yahn question | 18:07 |
sebsebseb | ChloeWolfieGirl: h eh bet me to it :d | 18:07 |
justCarakas1 | so it is mate and not Ma Te ? :p | 18:07 |
dobey | ChloeWolfieGirl: Clever Cthulhu wins | 18:07 |
popey | justCarakas: it doesn't matter :) | 18:07 |
Amar | QUESTION: Any ideas about what the new naming scheme be after 16.10? | 18:07 |
sebsebseb | QUESTION: What happended to Ubuntu TV? | 18:07 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | Sebsebseb: I am the Hud and strange question Queen | 18:08 |
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Amar | what the new naming scheme will be* | 18:08 |
popey | sebsebseb: again? | 18:08 |
mushrooms | QUESTION: is yakety yak name related to the "Capture the flag" movie? | 18:08 |
dobey | justCarakas1: it's maht-ay, like yerba | 18:08 |
yahn | QUESTION: Do you see Ubuntu for phones entering the conventional retail space (brick and mortar stores) within the next 12 months? | 18:08 |
dobey | mushrooms: it's a song | 18:08 |
nhaines | Amar: the naming scheme won't change after 16.10. | 18:08 |
Amar | still animals? :D | 18:08 |
erio | QUESTION: The content of your recent talks/interviews seems to be largely focussed around cloud/server computing (openstack, juju, MAAS etc). Are you still as passionate about Ubuntu in the personal computing space as you were when you started the project? | 18:08 |
mushrooms | @dobey oh | 18:08 |
nhaines | Amar: yup! Starts over with "A". :) | 18:08 |
sebsebseb | QUESTION: What's your favourite open source event not including anything Ubuntu specific? | 18:08 |
Amar | brilliant thanks | 18:09 |
justCarakas | QUESTION can you tell us something we don't know already :D | 18:09 |
mariogrip | QUESTION: are we getting an ubuntu watch? | 18:09 |
nhaines | mariogrip: he said at UbuCon Summit no. :) | 18:09 |
dobey | nhaines: assuming ascii only | 18:09 |
superhamsteri | Oooo :( | 18:09 |
nhaines | dobey: I already joked with someone about going to Greek letters. | 18:09 |
mushrooms | QUESTION: what is your daily driver phone? is it ubuntu? and if so what are your favourite apps and scopes? | 18:09 |
sebsebseb | QUESTION: Was going to space more exciting or more scary? | 18:09 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: When will you use unity 8 on desktop, also do you use ubuntu on the phone daily or do you still use alternatives like ios and android for apps and ideas? | 18:09 |
dholbach | snappy! | 18:10 |
dobey | nhaines: well, can still be latin | 18:10 |
ogra_ | Schnaps ! | 18:10 |
Amar | latin names could be great too | 18:10 |
dobey | nhaines: plenty of accented chars in latin text languages :) | 18:10 |
yahn | QUESTION: What major technological innovation are you hoping to see within the next 10 years? | 18:10 |
nhaines | They aren't usually "different" letters, though. Depends on the language. :) | 18:10 |
nhaines | They're not "different" in English. | 18:10 |
AuroraAvenue | ok | 18:11 |
mariogrip | lxd YEY, love it :D | 18:11 |
dobey | nhaines: eh? Δ is not e :) | 18:11 |
kosiara | QUESTION: I'm very excited for Ubuntu Phone, Ubuntu Tablet and the new Unity 8 desktop. What's the priority of the new Unity 8 compared to server, hypervisor etc... I'm a fan of snappy but would like to see the new 16.10 with Unity 8 as well. | 18:12 |
mushrooms | QUESTION: will we see more ubuntu branded hardware on ubuntu store? like home routers, mice, shirts etc | 18:12 |
nhaines | dobey: it is in English! :D | 18:12 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: If a snap doesnt work are you excited to beable to go βAwww snapβ | 18:12 |
Amar | lol | 18:12 |
dobey | nhaines: nope. it is only the same for lazy people | 18:12 |
nhaines | I've ruined like 5 different development environments, and they've all been lxc containers. :D | 18:12 |
erio | QUESTION: Will we see Ubuntu Software center rebuild to allow Snappy, and also things like Google Chrome and paind apps? | 18:12 |
nhaines | dobey: nope, if you look at a dictionary, they're sorted in-line with others, as opposed to Spanish where "ll" is a separate letter under a whole different heading. | 18:13 |
erio | *paid | 18:13 |
dobey | erio: gnome-software already supports snaps in 16.04 | 18:13 |
erio | dobey: only in unstable isn't ? And not like USC ... | 18:14 |
sebsebseb | QUESTION: What kind of things do you tend to do in general, but away from technology? | 18:14 |
user20 | QUESTION: When do you think will ubuntu phone be popular enough, so that some big apps like netflix, whatsapp etc. will come to ubuntu phone? | 18:14 |
dobey | erio: 16.04 is not unstable. it's the latest lts release | 18:14 |
Sanjay | hi mark | 18:14 |
mushrooms | QUESTION: is canonical diversifying into foods? and how many ubuntu food trucks does canonical have | 18:14 |
erio | QUESTION: Do you plan to use MS partnership to get us Microsoft Office or help Libreoffice to solve it's current bugs? | 18:14 |
nhaines | Mm, ketchup. | 18:15 |
erio | yahn ! | 18:15 |
yahn | damn | 18:15 |
yahn | my original question didn't make the cut :( | 18:15 |
erio | I'm sad because it was my main doubt. | 18:15 |
mushrooms | QUESTION: the snap is interesting but there is no simple way to make a snap from the SDK, what is your opinion about that? making things simpler | 18:16 |
mushrooms | is dead? :/ | 18:16 |
mushrooms | uh, live now | 18:16 |
Amar | QUESTION: How do you plan to top this year's MWC? :P | 18:16 |
nhaines | yahn: carriers make those decisions and announcements, not Canonical. So even if he knew he couldn't say. :) | 18:16 |
Sanjay | hi mark why you dont use facebook? | 18:17 |
yahn | nhaines, that's true but isn't it up to Canonical to make the push to OEM's? | 18:17 |
erio | QUESTION: Ubuntu Server is rock solid, a great piece of software and works great on AWS and other providers. Will you return attention to the Desktop now? | 18:17 |
ogra_ | Xbox !!!! | 18:17 |
nhaines | yahn: nope. The OEMs dictate the manufacturing schedule. | 18:17 |
mushrooms | QUESTION: how many people work on the phone/tablet (apple has 800+ people working only on the camera) | 18:17 |
ogra_ | (or did he mean eggs) | 18:17 |
nhaines | And also the publicity for that. | 18:17 |
yahn | nhaines, any chance you could give my first question a bit of a nudge? ;) | 18:18 |
yahn | I'm genuinely curious about the answer | 18:18 |
dobey | glass is pretty apropos ;) | 18:18 |
yahn | I ran it by dholbach to make sure it was appropriate | 18:18 |
popey | yahn: which? | 18:18 |
LugariusRL654 | im late... sory | 18:18 |
erio | nhaines , yahn QUESTION: The content of your recent talks/interviews seems to be largely focussed around cloud/server computing (openstack, juju, MAAS etc). Are you still as passionate about Ubuntu in the personal computing space as you were when you started the project? | 18:18 |
* nhaines changes my etherpad color to popey's. | 18:18 | |
yahn | popey, The content of your recent talks/interviews seems to be largely focussed around cloud/server computing (openstack, juju, MAAS etc). Are you still as passionate about Ubuntu in the personal computing space as you were when you started the project? | 18:19 |
popey | ah, i see | 18:19 |
LugariusRL654 | snappy is awesome | 18:19 |
ogra_ | +1 | 18:19 |
ogra_ | :) | 18:20 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: Does canonical and Steam still talk and have a close partnership, will steam advertise people to use snap version of ubuntu to develop games for steam games? | 18:20 |
nhaines | Snappy *is* awesome. :) | 18:20 |
LugariusRL654 | What is the actual status of unity8? what is the roadmap? I can control unity7 easy with keyboard, can i use unity8 with keyboard too? | 18:21 |
erio | QUESTION: When you think of IoT, do you plan to partner with raspberrypi.org to get to a better prototyping board using Snappy? | 18:21 |
popey | mhall119: scroll up :) | 18:22 |
nhaines | erio: what does the RPi lack? | 18:22 |
AuroraAvenue | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1605-mark-shuttleworths-qa | 18:22 |
ogra_ | erio the rpi2 is our default device already | 18:22 |
nhaines | I love Etherpad. It's like multiplayer gedit. | 18:22 |
erio | nhaines: right now doing anything requires a thousand steps, but maybe with snaps we could have simple one click apps to do things in the real world. | 18:23 |
LugariusRL654 | Whats the thing with Mycroft? is Canonical helping on the project so that unity8 has an personal assistent like siri? | 18:23 |
nhaines | erio: we already have that if you put Ubuntu Core on an RPi 2. :) | 18:23 |
erio | LugariusRL654: you need to use QUESTION: | 18:23 |
popey | \o/ Mycroft! | 18:23 |
popey | Voice of popey γ | 18:23 |
erio | nhaines: wait, seriously? I have RPi 2 here, but didn't knew I could use Ubuntu on it. | 18:24 |
ogra_ | snappy mycroft ! | 18:24 |
popey | yup, ubuntu runs on pi2 | 18:24 |
popey | Ubuntu MATE Desktop on Pi 2 is a really popular download | 18:24 |
kyrofa | erio, here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/ | 18:24 |
nhaines | erio: yup! I think Lubuntu has a spin, and Snappy Ubuntu Core launched with RPi 2 images at the same time as the RPi 2. :D | 18:24 |
yahn | popey, is speed the only reason we don't see Ubuntu proper on the rpi2? | 18:24 |
nhaines | yahn: graphics drivers. | 18:25 |
erio | yahn: ! | 18:25 |
yahn | nhaines, aah ok. Something compiz related? | 18:25 |
popey | Martin Wimpress has got Unity7 working on the Pi 2 :) | 18:25 |
popey | or pi 3.. can't remember | 18:25 |
popey | but on the pi :) | 18:26 |
nhaines | popey: now *that's* impressive. :) | 18:26 |
sebsebseb | we are vips :d | 18:26 |
popey | it's surprising to see! | 18:26 |
yahn | I'd be super keen to run ubuntu proper on the pi series | 18:26 |
dobey | pi r^2 | 18:26 |
dobey | or 2piR maybe | 18:26 |
nhaines | yahn: basically it all works except Unity. | 18:26 |
erio | :D | 18:26 |
dobey | nhaines: use unity8 :) | 18:26 |
nhaines | dobey: also doesn't work on the RPi2 as far as I know. :P | 18:27 |
LugariusRL654 | Is it possible that Ubuntu in the future doesnt need Debian anymore? | 18:27 |
popey | nope | 18:27 |
erio | Thank you Mark, I am more relaxed now. | 18:27 |
yahn | QUESTION: What is your 'we won' moment for the Ubuntu project? | 18:27 |
TheTwo | QUESTION: will Unity 8 be VR ready? | 18:27 |
sebsebseb | LugariusRL654: probably | 18:27 |
nhaines | mhall119 / popey: are you putting the asked questions somewhere or just deleting them? | 18:27 |
Amar | LugariousRL654 you should prefix your questions with QUESTION: | 18:27 |
nhaines | (The asked and answered questions.) | 18:27 |
popey | nhaines: deleting | 18:27 |
LugariusRL654 | ok Amar thanks | 18:27 |
popey | but etherpad tracks everything | 18:27 |
nhaines | popey: Weren't you just in the session 4 hours ago where we talked about transcriptions? ;) | 18:28 |
LugariusRL654 | do i have to reask Amar? | 18:28 |
popey | no | 18:28 |
popey | that was a bot | 18:28 |
LugariusRL654 | k ^^ | 18:28 |
nhaines | popey: man, Mycroft is getting really advanced these days. | 18:28 |
popey | LugariusRL654: no | 18:28 |
FlowRiser | QUESTION: Mark, what phones are the Canonical developers using to test Ubuntu? | 18:28 |
nhaines | FlowRiser: they're using the Nexus 4 and the retail devices. | 18:29 |
dobey | nhaines: and nexus5 and opo and etc | 18:29 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: Do you think Ubuntu will bring tablets back to life after the downfall in tablet sales? | 18:30 |
FlowRiser | Whoah, I knew about the Nexus 4 already, but not about the opo | 18:30 |
* mcphail wonders if all sabdfl's robots are going to have popey's voice | 18:30 | |
popey | hah | 18:30 |
svij | mcphail: I'm rather worried that the robots will also have popey s face^^ | 18:30 |
mcphail | ha! | 18:31 |
popey | uggh | 18:31 |
FlowRiser | hahah xD | 18:31 |
popey | what a horrid thought! | 18:31 |
erio | We need the desktop to build things for the Phone and the Cloud. | 18:31 |
dobey | popey with a beach ball | 18:31 |
popey | YES! | 18:31 |
sebsebseb | as a side note, popeys face you can already find in the Ubuntu phone app store still I think | 18:31 |
ogra_ | erio, what if your phone is your desktop ? | 18:31 |
ogra_ | :) | 18:31 |
popey | ogra_: BOOOOM | 18:32 |
popey | Mind. Blown. | 18:32 |
mariogrip | QUESTION: is there any plans of "removing" the android part in ubuntu touch? | 18:32 |
dobey | ogra_: not big enough for a desk | 18:32 |
dobey | ogra_: but too big for a phone :( | 18:32 |
erio | ogra_: I only used MIT AppInventor that did it and still required a computer . :/ | 18:32 |
alejo | QUESTION: Are plans for us in Latinamerica (i am from Chile) so we can buy phones and tables with ubuntu? | 18:32 |
ogra_ | dobey, pessimist :P | 18:32 |
dobey | ogra_: i have a very large desk | 18:33 |
erio | Ola alejo ! | 18:33 |
Amar | mars! | 18:33 |
ogra_ | I managed to do the whole UOS on my ubuntu tablet.... Not to far out anymore | 18:33 |
popey | Get your ass to mars! | 18:33 |
nhaines | sabdfl on Dragon to Mars confirmed. | 18:34 |
zyga | QUESTION: would you say ubuntu will reach mars in the next decade? | 18:34 |
alejo | erio: hola!! :D | 18:34 |
erio | alejo: brasil aqui. :) | 18:34 |
nhaines | I don't get very much done on my Nexus 7 with Unity 8, but I'm not *constantly* angry with it this year. | 18:35 |
zyga | QUESTION: we all talk about unity 8, what do you see would be the thing that woud warrant the need for a unity 9? | 18:36 |
erio | Can we have Electron on Unity 8? I need Atom. | 18:36 |
mariogrip | QUESTION: in your words, what does Open source and Ubuntu mean for you | 18:36 |
nhaines | erio: you can have any kind of app on Unity 8. | 18:36 |
ogra_ | erio, sergiuens is producing a snap of electron I think | 18:36 |
LugariusRL654 | QUESTION: Whats the thing with Mycroft? is Canonical helping on the project so that unity8 has an personal assistent like Siri? Will it work on Phone maybe? | 18:36 |
erio | ogra_: nice, thanks! :] | 18:37 |
alejo | erio: great!!! Bueno ver a un amigo de estos lugares :D | 18:37 |
ventrical | no snappy personal image question? | 18:37 |
FlowRiser | QUESTION: What was the most impressive things you've seen running Ubuntu Core ? | 18:37 |
dobey | zyga: we could bump the version tomorrow :P | 18:37 |
zyga | dobey: :) | 18:37 |
nhaines | ventrical: There's a full session on that next. | 18:37 |
ventrical | ok..thanks.. | 18:38 |
nhaines | ventrical: over on the convergence track. :) | 18:38 |
* ogra_ wants unity11 | 18:38 | |
zyga | lol | 18:38 |
erio | alejo: existe uma comunidade ubuntu latin america ? | 18:38 |
dobey | nobody remembers unity3d (no, not that unity3d) | 18:38 |
zyga | if we use systemd versioning we might reach unity95 soon ;) | 18:38 |
ogra_ | thats will even beat windows10 ! | 18:38 |
AuroraAvenue | XPS 13 : http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9350-laptop-ubuntu/pd | 18:38 |
dobey | unity-2d is dead, long live unity-2d | 18:38 |
sethj_ | QUESTION: Are there any plans for a US Ubuntu store? Shipping is currently so expensive it is hard for US ubuntu fans to get swag | 18:38 |
nhaines | sethj_: they had one for about 6 months. | 18:39 |
ogra_ | dobey, shhh | 18:39 |
LugariusRL654 | haha! | 18:39 |
sethj_ | nhaines, I know, but it's gone :( | 18:39 |
FlowRiser | sethj_, for East European fans as well | 18:39 |
mariogrip | next year we need 2 hours, there is so many question :P | 18:39 |
dobey | mariogrip: or fewer questions ;) | 18:39 |
Amar | mariogrip agreed | 18:39 |
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nhaines | sethj_: yes, but probably for a reason. (Either it was stoo hard to keep inventory both places, or it wasn't profitable enough, both, etc.) | 18:40 |
UbuntuFun_de | QUESTION: Is Ubuntu TV still on the plan? when or can we expect a new Version? | 18:40 |
mariogrip | dobey: :P | 18:40 |
sethj_ | nhaines, yes, hence the question ;() | 18:40 |
erio | QUESTION: will we see partnership with Microsoft for getting new Microsoft Office and Skype on Ubuntu, like it's available on Mac? | 18:40 |
Mister_Q | UbuntuFun_de keep asking every uos :D | 18:40 |
bluebug | QUESTION: any plan to launch another campaign like Ubuntu Edge? | 18:40 |
nhaines | sethj_: yes, but we can probably imagine the answer is "It wasn't profitable so we don't plan to lose money again." | 18:40 |
TheTwo | QUESTION: Will we be able to move the launcher to the bottom in Unity 8 as well? | 18:40 |
Lolrepeatlol | Will we be able to apply icon packs on Ubuntu mobile? | 18:41 |
zyga | QUESTION: are we going to see ubuntu 16.04 on windows soon? | 18:41 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: Do you play steam games, if so whats your favourite game or game youre excited for? | 18:41 |
nhaines | erio: don't keep asking a question over and over once it' been added to Etherpad. | 18:41 |
Sanjay | hi mark please make a official fb account or page so that people can connect with you easily | 18:41 |
nhaines | erio: or before, either, I guess :) | 18:41 |
dobey | zyga: just run do-release-upgrade -d? :P | 18:41 |
Sanjay | please pick my request | 18:41 |
zyga | dobey: breaks on udev | 18:41 |
dobey | zyga: ah | 18:41 |
ogra_ | Ubuntu TV will eventually just be another snappy spin | 18:42 |
zyga | dobey: windows is not as good as the real thing and some plumbing layer packages fail | 18:42 |
t1mp | the WEREWOLF would win, obviously! | 18:42 |
erio | nhaines: ok, sorry. Next time would be cool to see questions on the right in a pane so we could upvote downvote and you could filter . | 18:42 |
dobey | ruh roh | 18:42 |
popey | oof | 18:42 |
popey | put 50p in the meter | 18:43 |
zyga | QUESTION: what do you plan to do after ubuntu-z, back to -a? | 18:43 |
ventrical | freeze | 18:43 |
zyga | froze here too | 18:43 |
zyga | back | 18:43 |
nhaines | Grr, I wanted to hear about the yakkety answer! | 18:43 |
t1mp | mark broke up | 18:43 |
t1mp | I missed the yakkety answer and what came after that | 18:43 |
nhaines | mhall119: ask him again about the yakkety decision. :P | 18:43 |
Amar | nooooooo | 18:43 |
erio | noooo | 18:43 |
sethj_ | nhaines, reddit might be a good option for that? (voting on questions) | 18:43 |
popey | ROLLING RELEASE! | 18:43 |
sethj_ | trello would also work | 18:43 |
ogra_ | Snappy ! | 18:43 |
erio | sethj_: reddit software yes, it's open, but not hosted on reddit I think... | 18:44 |
LugariusRL654 | QUESTION: Why is the default search engine Google and not the OpenSource project DuckDuckGo? | 18:44 |
sebsebseb | LugariusRL654: good questioon, but maybe they had a deal like Mozilla had | 18:45 |
nhaines | sethj_: well, at the moment mhall119 and popey are trying to curate a wide variety of questions that can't be answered by other teams or are interesting to get Mark's perspective on. | 18:45 |
erio | LugariusRL654: it would be like Windows, you have to remove Bing before using. | 18:46 |
zyga | QUESTION: What was your biggest surprises of 2016 so far? | 18:46 |
erio | that was harsh.. | 18:46 |
Amar | QUESTION: Do you play any games on Steam? | 18:47 |
ogra_ | QUESTION: Will there ever be ubuntu TV ads featuring Scarlett Johansson ? | 18:48 |
wililupy_ | ?When bug 1 is solved? | 18:48 |
justCarakas | isn't bug 1 already solved ? | 18:48 |
sergiusens | ogra_ you always ask the right questions ;-) | 18:48 |
kyrofa | wililupy_, bug 1 was closed ages ago :P | 18:48 |
ogra_ | hat is solved since a whil | 18:48 |
erio | wililupy_: link to bug 1 ? | 18:48 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | QUESTION: Whats your favourite, zombie crushing alian splattering game on ubuntu? | 18:49 |
zyga | QUESTION: when can we see you for another Q&A session? | 18:49 |
sebsebseb | QUESTON: You are known like Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvaldes as a famous person in the open souce free software world, but who out of people like that, would you say you enjoyed meeting the most and why? | 18:49 |
sebsebseb | probably won't have time for that question ^ | 18:49 |
nhaines | erio: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 18:49 |
popey | Ok, I think we have more questions than we can possibly cover in 5 mins. π | 18:49 |
dobey | ogra_: let's not whitewash ubuntu too ;P | 18:49 |
sebsebseb | popey: indeed | 18:49 |
ogra_ | heh | 18:49 |
nhaines | popey: so ask the yakkety one again that got eaten by YouTube! | 18:49 |
justCarakas | it started some minutes late so we can run late :p | 18:50 |
erio | that's an awesome bug. | 18:50 |
captoon | Considering the fact that Chrome is now the #1 browser in terms of the number of users, is there any consideration to move away from Firefox? | 18:50 |
sebsebseb | captoon: is it? that's sad in a way! | 18:50 |
sebsebseb | captoon: Firefox is the one that started changing lots of stuff for the better. made IE improvee etc etc | 18:51 |
popey | We can't ship Chrome by default. | 18:51 |
popey | It's non-free | 18:51 |
justCarakas | won't the ubuntu browser become the default ? | 18:51 |
captoon | Yes, Chrome overtook IE :0 | 18:51 |
erio | sebsebseb: yes it is. And the fastest growing one is Microsoft Edge if you want to get sadder... | 18:51 |
nhaines | The Ubuntu browser isn't terrible. | 18:51 |
ogra_ | Its awesome | 18:51 |
sebsebseb | erio: Edge really? | 18:51 |
dobey | captoon: chromium would be the one to ship in ubuntu | 18:51 |
sebsebseb | erio: well maybe since it's in WIndows 10 | 18:51 |
captoon | I meant Chromium as an alternative... | 18:51 |
ventrical | Mark and All.. great session. You've made the world a better place. ttyl | 18:51 |
LugariusRL654 | Thanks ... i see! ... You got that this started with snappy ^^ | 18:51 |
yahn | nhaines, it really needs extension support | 18:51 |
justCarakas | I prefer the ubuntu browser over chromium | 18:51 |
TheTwo | QUESTION: Why does .snap's security matter when criminals can still use .debs instead? | 18:51 |
nhaines | yahn: probably. :) | 18:52 |
Dexstar | Question: Can you hire me? | 18:52 |
dobey | TheTwo: not sure what you mean by that question | 18:52 |
Mister_Q | QUESTION: are you coming to ubucon EU? | 18:52 |
FlowRiser | Man, difficult question | 18:52 |
AuroraAvenue | started 5 minutes late ! | 18:52 |
TheTwo | dobey: when somebody wants to harm your PC he'll use debs instead of snaps | 18:53 |
justCarakas | 6 mintues left in this session! | 18:53 |
justCarakas | :p | 18:53 |
UbuntuFun_de | Thank you Michael and Mark for your time and answers. It was fun to follow and very interesting. *Thump Up | 18:53 |
popey | heh | 18:53 |
popey | nice try justCarakas | 18:53 |
justCarakas | ^^ | 18:53 |
dobey | TheTwo: no, they can't (on a system baed on ubuntu core where the os is a signed snap; and / is read-only on the phone for a reason | 18:53 |
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dobey | TheTwo: and if someone has access to install a .deb your system is already lost anyway | 18:54 |
Amar | lol | 18:54 |
udsbotub | 5 minutes left in this session! | 18:54 |
popey | udsbotub: careful | 18:54 |
popey | that way bans lie | 18:54 |
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justCarakas | ok :) | 18:54 |
justCarakas | sorry | 18:54 |
justCarakas | :D | 18:54 |
justCarakas | just a joke | 18:54 |
popey | :) | 18:54 |
erio | Thank you Mark! | 18:54 |
erio | I am so happy! | 18:54 |
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LugariusRL654 | thanks.... too many questions.... ill ask next time ^^ (^^ | 18:55 |
alejo | erio: bye!! debo ir a trabajar | 18:55 |
popey | π | 18:55 |
erio | alejo: bom trabalho! | 18:55 |
Amar | Cheers Mark ;) | 18:56 |
yahn | thanks Mark, mhall119 & those who helped set this up | 18:56 |
LugariusRL654 | thanks again.... bye bye! | 18:56 |
AuroraAvenue | I broke a nail :( | 18:56 |
sethj_ | Thanks Mark! mhall119 and popey too! | 18:56 |
erio | nhaines: good work! :D | 18:56 |
nhaines | mhall119 and popey: thanks for all your hard work! :D | 18:56 |
mhall119 | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22652/ubuntu-personal-and-convergence-qa/ is the next Q&A | 18:56 |
justCarakas | thanks mhall110 and popey and mark | 18:56 |
popey | nice one mhall119 | 18:56 |
UbuntuFun_de | Great Session! (Y) | 18:56 |
mcphail | Cheers everyone. Enjoyed that. | 18:56 |
ogra_ | Thanks ! | 18:57 |
nhaines | erio: thanks, but I was just answering some questions here I thuoght wouldn't make the main video. :) | 18:57 |
yahn | perhaps my question came across as negative | 18:57 |
Amar | I'm pretty sure he answered it | 18:57 |
yahn | nah he didn't | 18:57 |
dobey | yahn: which question? | 18:57 |
Amar | the one about Ubuntu cloud and personal | 18:58 |
nhaines | yahn: well, there were a lot of questions and he can't pick all of them. Which question did you not get an answer to? | 18:58 |
AuroraAvenue | not sure about the youtube picture on the cover, thou. | 18:58 |
dobey | yahn: more than one of your questions were answered | 18:58 |
yahn | The content of your recent talks/interviews seems to be largely focussed around cloud/server computing (openstack, juju, MAAS etc). Are you still as passionate about Ubuntu in the personal computing space as you were when you started the project? | 18:58 |
popey | It's always difficult juggling them | 18:58 |
yahn | that was the one I was most interested in | 18:58 |
popey | yes, he did answer that yahn | 18:58 |
AuroraAvenue | Out of over 10 questions - I got 1 answered. | 18:58 |
Amar | yep he answered that | 18:58 |
nhaines | He did answer that one. | 18:58 |
yahn | oh | 18:58 |
yahn | somehow I missed it | 18:58 |
dobey | yeah | 18:58 |
mariogrip | what does the "red star" in front of someones name on summit.ubuntu.com mean? | 18:58 |
yahn | sorry gents | 18:58 |
popey | mariogrip: they're awesome | 18:58 |
dobey | yahn: watch the video again later then :) | 18:59 |
popey | mariogrip: do you have a red star? | 18:59 |
popey | π | 18:59 |
mariogrip | yeah :P | 18:59 |
popey | (it means "attending" or "required" (yellow / orange)) | 18:59 |
yahn | mario have you got time for a quick question? | 18:59 |
mariogrip | yahn: sure | 18:59 |
yahn | how's the work going on the oneplus one image for ubuntu touch? | 18:59 |
yahn | the github activity seems to be frozen at the moment | 19:00 |
mariogrip | note that the project is spread over many repos on github, there is not just one repo | 19:00 |
yahn | mariogrip, where is the best place to view activity? | 19:01 |
mariogrip | but, I have an release ready soon that's has everything working except bt, gps and camera | 19:01 |
mariogrip | but i hope to fix them as soon as i can | 19:01 |
gfhss | i missed | 19:01 |
mariogrip | yahn: on our github team/group and some launchpad | 19:02 |
gfhss | When and where is the next..... and why this isnt ubuntu on air? | 19:02 |
yahn | mariogrip, ok, thanks | 19:02 |
yahn | your work is much appreciated btw | 19:02 |
AuroraAvenue | mariogrip: You have questions to answer on Patreon. | 19:03 |
mariogrip | AuroraAvenue: thanks for letting me know, ill answer them :) | 19:03 |
AuroraAvenue | also you need to incl. the sub-topic "Legacy Devices" on ubports forum for other stuff to be talked about . If you do that I promise to work hard on populating the foryum with juicy stuff. | 19:04 |
AuroraAvenue | **forum | 19:04 |
yahn | mark always gives an erudite answer | 19:13 |
jondotlocal | Great work including native ZFS support - with rumors of licensing issues present, how likely is it that availability of ZFS will remain? | 19:54 |
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