[00:00] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> hello
[00:00] <curlyears> hhello?
[00:01] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> Will Ubuntu ever become a rolling release distribution?
[00:01] <bonsairoot> no
[00:01] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> Does anyone know if there are any plans for that?
[00:02] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> Like for example Arch/Manjaro
[00:03] <bazhang> !snappy | Heart-Of-A-Lion
[00:03] <curlyears> I am not sure I understand what you mean  by a "rolling release?"
[00:03] <bazhang> curlyears, newest packages availbe immediately
[00:03] <curlyears> I ordered my raspberry Pi3 this afternoon   *grin*
[00:04] <bonsairoot> Heart-Of-A-Lion, Canonical has no reason to switch to a rolling release what so ever. That would not be worth it ... not for the user choosing ubuntu nor for canonical
[00:05] <curlyears> bonsairoot: that makes sense
[00:05] <throgoth> Hello everyone. I have a rather noobish, but short question. Am I right here to ask?
[00:05] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> With rolling release I mean, install once and then never again, because everything is updated after the initial install via the package manager. Kernel, software, security packages, themes, everything. Like Manjaro for example, which is based on Arch..
[00:05] <Fudge> jsut ask
[00:06] <curlyears> *sigh* for some reason, none  of the people I am used to seeing in this channel seem to be here.
[00:07] <curlyears> Heart-Of-A-Lion: well, my ubuntu 14.04.4 receives "pushes" updates several times/week
[00:07] <squinty> !ask | throgoth
[00:07] <curlyears> hey, squintyu
[00:07] <_{Tite}_> hi everyon
[00:08] <curlyears> squinty:  any ides why an apt-get of gnome would foul up the BIOS settings on my 14.04.4 system?
[00:08] <throgoth> I plan to install multiple linux distors and I wonder wheter it is better to make for each installation a new partition, or if one / partition will work just fine? My bet is, that I need a new part for each install, am I right?
[00:08] <squinty> curlyears,  never heard of such a thing personally
[00:09] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> So even when a new version of Ubuntu is released, you won't have to re-install or upgrade, because due to the rolling release you then already have all the latest versions of everything.
[00:09] <curlyears> that is almost certainly the case. throgoth.   Think about it.  Different distros will like contain different contents in the / dir
[00:09] <Bashing-om> throgoth: True .. each on its own partition .. but a sharded /swap partition .
[00:09] <squinty> throgoth, separate    swap can be common
[00:10] <curlyears> Ah, no, you do have to explicity choose to upgrade with new versions
[00:10] <throgoth> And /home? Can this part be shared?
[00:10] <bonsairoot> throgoth, Depending on your partitioning scheme you can share partitions
[00:10] <curlyears> squinty:  it appears to have happened to me
[00:11] <Bashing-om> throgoth: Not a good thought .. config file !
[00:11] <_{Tite}_> anyone heard of problems with libvirt or ovs after upgrading to 16.04
[00:11] <bonsairoot> throgoth, See here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55224/a-common-home-partition-for-multiple-linux-distributions
[00:12] <jalt> Hi, how do I fully disable avahi-daemon from a fresh 16.04 install? The obvious systemctl disable avahi-daemon did not work.
[00:13] <curlyears> squinty:  it took  me 4 days to oidentify and correct the problem, and required a fresh reinstall of 14.04.4
[00:13] <_{Tite}_> I just upgraded, now kvm wont bring up more than one vm, complaining it can not add the new interface to the bridge
[00:13] <throgoth> Okay, thank you for the help. Much appreciated :)
[00:13] <hans_> I just updated libssl-doc_1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.1_all.deb openssl_1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.1_i386.deb libssl-dev_1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.1_i386.deb libssl1.0.0_1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.1_i386.deb
[00:14] <hans_> Lost my wifi as a result, reverted back to the old packages
[00:14] <hans_> Has any one else come accross this?
[00:14] <nebg> hello everyone... which is the difference between "shopt" and "set" i see the operate on different options...but which options relate to set and which to shopt  ?
[00:16] <curlyears> reisio;   found that switching to EUFI enabled in the BIOS., from "Auto" and correcting a somehow alteredd boot disk prioirity allowed me to successfully reinstall
[00:16] <django_> if im going to reinstall ubuntu is it worth installing 16.04?
[00:17] <squinty> django_,  seems pretty stable at this end
[00:17] <jalt> django_, might depend on your intentions, but 16.04 will come with more recent packages and longer support time.
[00:18] <django_> im mainly concerned with my two graphaics cards
[00:18] <curlyears> django_:  most people seem to think so, though I've been seeing a lot of people who have coming in here with problems, especially related to networking and wireless stufff. YMMV
[00:18] <django_> the nvidia drivers work on 16.04?
[00:18] <effectnet> why would samba stop reporting sizes heh
[00:18] <curlyears> A number of peple have complained of issues with nvidia support
[00:19] <reisio> curlyears: to eufi from what, 'legacy'?
[00:19] <reisio> django_: nouveau will likely work in any version
[00:19] <jalt> the best course of action will be for you to try a livecd version first
[00:19] <hans_> I upgraded to 16_04 (kubuntu) without a hitch, just the latest update killed my network...
[00:19] <reisio> django_: the proprietary nvidia drivers will always need particular version constraints, and particular Linux/kernel constraints
[00:20] <curlyears> reisio:   No.  There was an option in Advanced BIOS Functions menu for CD Boot EUFI setting
[00:20] <squinty> django_,  been a few users having problems with gtx 960m    not sure if problems were resolved or not
[00:20] <django_> squinty, my problems were solved
[00:20] <reisio> curlyears: and you changed it /to/ eufi? From what?
[00:20] <django_> i run the nvidia X Server settings
[00:20] <squinty> django_,  good to hear
[00:20] <django_> and i can chose which graphics card to control
[00:20] <django_> i wanna make sure i can do the same in 16.04
[00:21] <reisio> django_: you absolutely can, even if they don't work immediately at the outset (which I couldn't comment on)
[00:21] <reisio> django_: at most you will have to 1) choose a different nvidia driver version and/or 2) choose a different kernel version
[00:22] <reisio> both fairly trivial tasks, should you need to execute them
[00:22] <curlyears> reisio: the options were EUFI, whatever the alternative to eufi is, and "Auto."   Since I had no idea, I chose Auto, considering that safest.  It worked for a while, but chanoing it to EUFI helped resolvemy weird issues
[00:22] <django_> reisio, those are options right?
[00:22] <torpet> What's the best way to install vlc 2.2.2 on Ubuntu 14.04?
[00:23] <reisio> curlyears: <sigh> so uninformative :p
[00:23] <curlyears> but as I said, it also turned out the BIOS setting for boot disk priority had been altered to point to the incorrect drive.  WEIRD
[00:23] <reisio> curlyears: I wanna know what it was already set at :p
[00:23] <reisio> curlyears: anyway gj, isn't U/EFI fun? :p
[00:23] <reisio> django_: hrmm?
[00:23] <django_> reisio, i dont know what this means: "at most you will have to 1) choose a different nvidia driver version and/or 2) choose a different kernel version"
[00:24] <curlyears> reisio:   I don't knnow how to find out, it was originallyy set to "Auto."  Presumably, since it origincally allowed the system wo work with the 3TB drive, the "auto" setting ended up selecting EUFI
[00:24] <jalt> torpet, I don't think it is possible other than compiling from source
[00:24] <jalt> i know the ppa is not better than the default package for 14.04
[00:24] <awesome-0> im having a wake on lan issue in 14.04 it works on initial install and then after a update no longer
[00:25] <festerB> django_: can't you try nvidia server settings on a live cd/usb? btw np here with nvidia on 16.04
[00:25] <torpet> jalt: vlc on ubuntu 14.04 is at 2.1.6 or something
[00:25] <reisio> django_: it means if it doesn't "just work", that to get it to work, you will have to do, at most, one of or both of those things
[00:25] <jalt> awesome-0, you need to use ethtool to set the WoL options and make sure they are written to the device on every boot
[00:25] <django_> festerB, oh good point
[00:25] <jalt> torpet, yes 2.1.6
[00:25] <reisio> awesome-0: what're you waking it from?
[00:26] <curlyears> OH, I did notice  in the partition table while in parted that the "swap" partition wasa set up as an LVM.   WHy was that?
[00:26] <awesome-0> wake on magic packet from my router
[00:26] <reisio> awesome-0: oh, fancy router :)
[00:26] <reisio> awesome-0: so it worked before? When exactly? What kind of update did you make?
[00:26] <jalt> awesome-0, you may also want to double check that your BIOS options are not preventing WoL. Some low-power settings will disrupt it
[00:27] <awesome-0> it works after install but a software update is breaking it
[00:27] <reisio> awesome-0: ...update of what
[00:27] <reisio> awesome-0: and what is it you installed that you are attributing your wol having worked via before?
[00:28] <awesome-0> mate software update system-administration-software update
[00:28] <awesome-0> though the gui
[00:28] <curlyears> reisio: unfortunately, the auto-update pushes from ubuntu.com don't really tell you much about WHAT they're updating, and the stuff flows by onthe screen so fast i know *I* can't follow it.
[00:28] <awesome-0> it works on install right out of the box
[00:29] <reisio> curlyears: don't speak for people :p
[00:29] <reisio> awesome-0: what's the network device name?
[00:29] <awesome-0> etho
[00:29] <squinty> awesome-0,  check to see if wake-on is "g" (needs to be)  sudo ethtool <net card name>
[00:29] <reisio> squinty: ^
[00:30] <reisio> it probably says 'Wake-on: d', ATM
[00:30] <awesome-0> that changes after the update, i saw alot of documentation on scripting it to be applied at boot but had little success when i tried on 16.04
[00:30] <squinty> awesome-0, if not    sudo ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[00:30] <awesome-0> its wake on g atm
[00:30] <lachy> hi guys, i was a fan of overlay scrollbars in trusty but they've been ditched in xenial, any way to make the gnome scrollbars thicker, they're so thin and hard to grab
[00:30] <curlyears> I am going to re-d/l bitchx from a different source (git it this timefrom sourceforge) and try building it again
[00:31] <squinty> din-dins time..........
[00:31] <reisio> awesome-0: okay, then suspend your system and see if the router can wake it
[00:32] <awesome-0> right now i can it works like a charm
[00:32] <reisio> awesome-0: check 'ethool eth0' again after you wake it, make sure it still says 'g'
[00:33] <reisio> awesome-0: to be clear, are you telling your router to wake this box _from another box_, or does your router specifically have its own method of waking things _directly from itself_?
[00:33] <reisio> the former is problematic, the latter is not
[00:33] <awesome-0> i can do it direct from the router with a magic packet
[00:33] <reisio> okay, good :)
[00:33] <jalt> awesome-0: if you have another box in the same subnet you may want to fire up wireshark/tcpdump when you WoL to make sure the magic packet is being sent properly
[00:34] <awesome-0> ok im on the system will suspend and report
[00:34] <reisio> should really work find from the router
[00:34] <reisio> it's more likely his wake-on is re-setting to not-g
[00:34] <reisio> which is obviously fixable
[00:34] <reisio> work fine*
[00:36] <festerB> i'm currently running MATE 16.04 but drooling over Xubuntu, anyone here who has run both and care to comment on likes/dislikes?
[00:36] <jalt> on some old hardware i once had i needed to boot into windows once and set WoL in there first. only then would WoL work from Linux, apparently because the (Linux) driver could not access the setting directly. If the machine ever went to deep sleep (power outage) I had to do it all over again
[00:37] <jalt> I am on Xubuntu since 9-ish and It Just Works (TM). Well, most of the time ;)
[00:37] <hans_> I use xubuntu and kubuntu, I like both
[00:37] <effectnet> i dont even know what this stuff is
[00:37] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> Quick off-topic question, but how does one reply to a specific user in these chat channels? (using Hexchat)
[00:37] <Cristobal> m
[00:38] <Ben64> Heart-Of-A-Lion: you type their name then type a reply
[00:38] <tgm4883> Heart-Of-A-Lion: type their name? Or do you want to private message them
[00:38] <jsuebkf>  Kali Linux
[00:38] <idqmcyk>  Kali Linux
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[00:38] <tgm4883> well that's fun
[00:38] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> Ben64 this is a test
[00:38] <Ben64> there you go
[00:38] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> Do you see that as a specific reply to you?
[00:39] <Ben64> yep indeed
[00:39] <krabador> w_web
[00:39] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> If someone replies to me, the text turns green
[00:39] <tgm4883> Heart-Of-A-Lion: everyone saw it, but it highlighted for him
[00:39] <effectnet> why the attack?
[00:39] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> aha okay
[00:39] <effectnet> an ubuntu channel?  really?
[00:39] <Ben64> because people are bored/dumb
[00:39] <effectnet> really
[00:39] <effectnet> ubunt
[00:39] <Ben64> yes it happens quite often actually
[00:39] <tgm4883> best to just report and ignore
[00:39] <dax> been a heck of a day today
[00:39] <awesome-0> so suspend works
[00:39] <tgm4883> dax: that's why you get paid the big.. uh... bits
[00:39] <krabador> oooh, i  really miss you
[00:40] <dax> tgm4883: lol
[00:40] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> It's a hack attack?
[00:40] <dax> Heart-Of-A-Lion: nope, just someone being silly, feel free to ignore
[00:40] <neglesaks> yeah it been quite a gday. I managed to get up before 7 oclock
[00:40] <effectnet> i dont understand why my samba slowed down so much
[00:40] <Ben64> it's a botnet, nothing to worry about, they're just wasting time
[00:40] <curlyears> dagnab itdd
[00:40] <neglesaks> then you know it's gonna be bad
[00:41] <curlyears> dagnab it, I am following the directions in the INSTALL file distributed in the bitchx-1.21.1 archive.   make doesn't like thhose commands
[00:42] <festerB> hans_ jalt so Xubuntu worth a shot when coming from MATE?
[00:43] <jalt> I only saw MATE briefly on Mint, so I can't comment much, but XFCE on Xubuntu looks familiar if you're a fan of GTK2
[00:43] <effectnet> what are all these distros?  does this kind of thing splinter work at all?
[00:43] <reisio> festerB: I find Xfce and GNOME 2/MATE very easily configured to work and look like one another
[00:43] <reisio> effectnet: not exactly
[00:43] <curlyears> reisio: do you think it would be safe to try building and installing gnome again?
[00:44] <jalt> resource wise I'd say it's obviously lighter than either gnome shell, unity or KDE, but not truly light (openbox, i3, and so on)
[00:44] <reisio> curlyears: what's gnome got to do with uefi & booting a cd?
[00:44]  * reisio hugs Xfce
[00:44] <curlyears> reisio: trying to install and select gnome is what seems to have precipitated this crisis
[00:45] <jalt> not sure what you were doing/trying to do curlyears, but having multiple DEs on ubuntu is a sure recipe for disaster.
[00:45] <curlyears> it was when i rebooted as instructed in  selecting gnome as my default file manager that the problem arose
[00:45] <reisio> curlyears: I don't see how that's possible, really
[00:45] <jalt> gnome? file manager?
[00:46] <jalt> do you mean nautilus? or desktop environment?
[00:47] <neglesaks> gnome is a desktop environment. the file manager is nautilus for regular gnome-debian
[00:47] <curlyears> jalt:  when I ran the apt-get install for gnome, after it built it, it brought up a screen which offered to allow me to select default file manger.  I chose gnome
[00:47] <reisio> it's actually just named 'Files' now, AIUI
[00:47] <reisio> sad but true
[00:47] <neglesaks> Oh, right.
[00:47] <curlyears> jalt:   yes, gnome instead of nautilus
[00:47] <dchapman> Amazingly, icewm is even lighter in resources than i3. Pity it's an abandoned project.
[00:47] <reisio> I think I'll continue to call it 'nautilus'
[00:47] <reisio> as 'files' is useless as a name
[00:47] <reisio> 'nautilus' or 'the file manager'
[00:47] <jalt> i am confused. is gnome now the name of nautilus on Gnome (the DE)?
[00:47] <neglesaks> it could be worse. they could call it 'file explorer'
[00:48] <reisio> jalt: nautilus (now "files") is the file manager of GNOME, a DE
[00:48] <reisio> they could call it dolphin :p
[00:48] <reisio> that'd be worse
[00:48] <jalt> right, so how did curlyears install gnome instead of nautilus?
[00:48] <neglesaks> willie
[00:48] <reisio> jalt: not sure how it matters even if he did
[00:48] <curlyears> I am totally confused.  I was advised to switch to gnome from whatever the default in 14.04.4 is.
[00:49] <jalt> the default is gnome. gnome 3 shell
[00:49] <dchapman> Who advised this?
[00:49] <curlyears> I ran "sudo apt-get install gnome"
[00:50] <curlyears> dchapman: several people in here.  I was having some very strange problems which turned out to be a corrupted list of repos in may apt repo list.
[00:50] <curlyears> OK.  So I am already running gnome, then.   Fine.
[00:51] <curlyears> s/may/my/
[00:51] <Significantbits> So, I am trying to have a persistent ubuntu environment on a 128GB flash drive, but for some reason when I right click on computer and go to properties, it says that I only have 4gb of storage. Would anyone be willing to help me out with this issue?
[00:51] <Significantbits> gparted sees all 128gb of the flash drive
[00:51] <Ben64> Significantbits: well how did you put it on the flash drive
[00:52] <jalt> Significantbits: what partitions does gparted see? and are you using EFI or BIOS?
[00:52] <Significantbits> I used universal usb installer.
[00:52]  * curlyears gone for the day
[00:52] <Significantbits> Gparted sees the ssd in my laptop and the flash drive.
[00:53] <jalt> i meant what partitions within the flash drive
[00:53] <awesome-0> after so looking around i think my wol issue is related to changes in network manager
[00:53] <jalt> (and i presume you want to have a portable, self-contained ubuntu enviroment in the flash drive, right?)
[00:53] <Significantbits> Oh, it just sees dev/sdb1
[00:53] <Significantbits> yes.
[00:54] <lachy> fucken useless cunts
[00:54] <jalt> so dev/sdb1 is the only partition on dev/sdb? how big is the partition
[00:54] <Significantbits> 115gb, which makes sense because its 128gb
[00:54] <jalt> is your flash drive mounted? can you cd to it?
[00:54] <Significantbits> but when I right click on computer and go to properties it only shows 4gb free.
[00:55] <jalt> just open a terminal and type df
[00:55] <jalt> it should show the partitions and sizes
[00:55] <Significantbits> df sees /dev/sdb1
[00:55] <jalt> then it's probably something wrong with the right click thingy
[00:56] <jalt> uh, unless that usb installer of yours actually created some form of ramdisk that is 4GB
[00:57] <Significantbits> That might be what it did. Because I see casper-rw
[00:57] <jalt> ah.
[00:57] <django_> once i have a bootable USB how do i run it to install ubuntu?
[00:57] <jalt> you probably have to ask whoever did your tool.
[00:57] <Significantbits> the slider only went up to 4gb in the tool I believe. Is there any way I can have an environment that accesses all 128gb?
[00:58] <jalt> django_: you need to go to your computer's BIOS and/or select USB as the boot source (and you may or may not need to disable safe boot)
[00:58] <django_> ohh
[00:58] <django_> lol
[00:58] <django_> ty jalt
[00:58] <jalt> there is usually a key you can press to bring up the boot menu
[00:58] <jalt> like F10 or F12
[00:58] <django_> im on ubuntu right now, i want to reinstall
[00:58] <jalt> that way you don't need to actually enter the BIOS itself
[00:59] <django_> jalt, i want to reinstall ubuntu on existing ubuntu
[00:59] <django_> do i still need to do that?
[00:59] <jalt> make sure you backup everything first, and good luck
[00:59] <Ben64> Significantbits: why do you need that much on a persistent live usb
[00:59] <Ben64> Significantbits: seems like you'd be better off with a real install at that point
[01:00] <jalt> django_: if you want to wipe the current ubuntu and start from scratch, yes.
[01:00] <festerB> Significantbits: I seem to remember something about casper-rw partition limited to 4GB, major voodoo needed to make it bigger, did not try it out
[01:00] <django_> jalt, will it create a new SSH key?
[01:01] <Significantbits> Well, my ssd in my laptop is only 256gb, and I didn't want to go through the trouble of installing another one, and I thought it would just be nice to have it on a flash drive since I have multiple computers. I could just boot into it on any of them.
[01:01] <jalt> django_ I believe so, but you may backup your current one before you nuke it all
[01:01] <django_> ok
[01:01] <django_> ty
[01:01] <jalt> Significantbits, I think the problem lies on what does it mean to "install to the flash drive". if you're using casper there is more going on.
[01:02] <jalt> possibly to minimize writes to disk, etc.
[01:02] <Xeronate> I deleted my ubuntu partition and now can't get past grub2. Didn't realize ubuntu installed a new bootloader/changed MBR. Any ideas on how to fix this...
[01:03] <Ben64> Xeronate: trying to boot back into windows?
[01:03] <jalt> Xeronate, if all you did was remove the partition entry from the MBR, there are tools that may allow you to recover it
[01:03] <diegoviola> I have a computer with only 2GB of RAM, is it ok to still use 64-bit?
[01:03] <jalt> look into sysrescuecd
[01:03] <diegoviola> in case if I expand to 4GB later
[01:03] <Ben64> diegoviola: if you have a 64bit cpu, you should install 64bit os
[01:03] <Xeronate> I dont mind reformating, but I can't even get it to launch from my usb
[01:03] <diegoviola> Ben64: I have a 64bit cpu, yes
[01:03] <Xeronate> and I can
[01:04] <Significantbits> Well, I used this tool because it was what came up when I googled "persistant install of ubuntu on a usb drive"
[01:04] <Xeronate> but yeah booting into windows or booting windows installer from usb would work. I'll try sysrescued..not sure how to get it to run though
[01:04] <jalt> Xeronate, you need to burn to a cd or make a bootable usb
[01:05] <effectnet> gosh why did samba slow down, weird
[01:05] <Xeronate> I have a bootable usb but it instantly goes to grub2
[01:05] <UFC_addict> lol
[01:05] <jalt> then it's either broken/not really bootable or your BIOS settings are not allowing USB boot
[01:05] <diegoviola> should I wait for 16.04.1, because 16.04 has been a bit slow and buggy for me
[01:05] <diegoviola> I did a upgrade, not fresh install
[01:06] <Xeronate> one sec..toshiba uses 0 instead of an f key
[01:07] <Xeronate> Ah got it. Thanks a lot. Thought I was done for.
[01:07] <jalt> good luck recovering the partition
[01:08] <Significantbits> So is it not possible to do what I am trying to do?
[01:09] <jalt> It probably is possible, but in a different way.
[01:09] <Afdal> Hey all I'm having an issue with my whole file system getting randomly locked on Xubuntu.  Wondering if anyone has any ideas on this.
[01:09] <Kurogane> Hello, any raid expert tell me which hdd is the fauly? http://pastie.org/private/1poljqzgtrffy9qpvydlda
[01:09] <Afdal> To my knowledge it didn't start cropping up after any update that I'm aware of so I'm a little puzzled at what's been triggering this
[01:10] <dax> Kurogane: don't crosspost between #ubuntu and #debian. Use whichever channel corresponds to the disto you're actually on.
[01:10] <Afdal> My Xubuntu file system is a dmraid partition if that helps.  I'm 99% sure it isn't my RAID array going bad though, because I jump back to my Windows partition on the same RAID array and everything runs just fine as usual
[01:11] <Significantbits> jalt, what way is that?
[01:11] <Afdal> the whole file system getting randomly set to read-only, I mean
[01:11] <Afdal> basically interrupts any programs I'm using and I need to reboot to fix it (after dealing with a superfluous disc check every time)
[01:12] <jalt> treating the USB flash drive as if it was a normal hdd, but that might require some fiddling to allow booting from it
[01:12] <jalt> i really don't know much more about it
[01:12] <Ben64> doesn't require any fiddling
[01:13] <Significantbits> should I just format it is NTFS instead of FAT32?
[01:13] <jalt> Significantbits, uh, that does not make sense.
[01:14] <Significantbits> it as*
[01:14] <jalt> More likely than not your tool reformatted it as ext4 anyway
[01:15] <jalt> you really should ask the tool's author
[01:15] <Significantbits> well, I'll just have to try something else. Thanks for the help.
[01:16] <zykotick9> Significantbits: <sidenote> if i was you, i'd just to a regular install onto a usb drive (just verify grub gets installed to the right place, the usb <- historically, this might have been tricky)
[01:18] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i finally got an install of ubuntu-mate 16.04 done on this box. logging in causes some kind of crash. still.
[01:18] <Gallomimia> i'm incredibly impressed.
[01:21] <django_> when you are in the "preparing to install" window why does the continue button take so long?
[01:23] <Extreminador> hello
[01:24] <Extreminador> i am traying to install ubuntu in a friend computer but i think it have stop when coping the files more or less at 80%
[01:24] <Extreminador> how can i see if it's still doing anything ?
[01:25] <Extreminador> can´t click on the ignore button and can´t see a close button as well
[01:25] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: I have not seen mate . Maybe not much help to you . What do the logs relate ?
[01:26] <django_> anyone?
[01:26] <django_> when you are in the "preparing to install" window why does the continue button take so long?
[01:27] <DiscoDave> hey guys, I'm installing linux and i was just wondering how big my swap should be. On arch wiki it says general rule is twice your ram
[01:29] <Bashing-om> DiscoDave: Old docs for 2X ram ! How much ram do you have, and do you intend to hiberbnate the machine ?
[01:29] <zykotick9> DiscoDave: it _really_ depends on your use case.  with modern ram sizes, i'd think ram+a_bit would typically be fine.  note: that's chosen to still allow hibernate to work, if that's a thing for you.
[01:29] <DiscoDave> 8 gigs and yes
[01:30] <DiscoDave> thanks zykotick9. ill try 9 gigs
[01:30]  * zykotick9 thinks 8GB of swap is a lot... but you _might_ need it for hibernate (but i doubt it).  best of luck.
[01:30] <zykotick9> DiscoDave: 9GB would be safe...
[01:31] <DiscoDave> ty
[01:32] <guicracking> Is someone here who wants to talk about the possibities of gui cracking these days, by -any!- kind of simulation of the user the gui is controlled as a cli. A tester might have some tool kit for it, no
[01:32] <guicracking> So any small talk about feasibilty or pointer is thanked
[01:34] <SchrodingersScat> !info xautomation | guicracking
[01:35] <SchrodingersScat> guicracking: like that? that can let you create macros, mouse movements, key presses, search for images on the screen that fit preselected patterns, etc.
[01:41] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i haven't checked that yet... was trying to config dns by command line. something i can't seem to figure out
[01:43] <jalt> Answering my own question for future reference: the only way to disable avahi-daemon is to remove and purge the package. There really is no other way because of socket activation and dbus.
[01:44] <guicracking> here is in long:https://beboreportingmachine.wordpress.com/2016/05/04/the-nut-job-sceme/#Anchorname
[01:44] <guicracking> btw
[01:47] <reisio> 's'hard to read
[01:47] <Hulio> hi guys, why I can't install xchat?
[01:47] <Hulio> i'm used to xchat
[01:47] <Hulio> i used to be able to do 'sudo apt-get install xchat' but not working
[01:48] <Hulio> it said no package
[01:48] <Hulio> i am newly install ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[01:48] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: How you manage the networking is the tools you use to configure . A GUI using Network-manager ?
[01:48] <LewsThanThree> Try hexchat?
[01:48] <jalt> xchat was removed AFAIK
[01:48] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: don't have a gui
[01:48] <Hulio> LewsThanThree, i dont see reason i want hexchat...while xchat i'm used to
[01:49] <Hulio> even though hexchat is similar, but why xchat is not working?
[01:49] <LewsThanThree> Hulio, … they are practically the same.
[01:49] <LewsThanThree> Except Hexchat is still being worked on, etc :P
[01:49] <Hulio> so is there any way to get it working?
[01:50] <jalt> Hulio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321458&p=13474925#post13474925
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: then it is configured mostly in /etc/network/interfaces . What is the issue ?
[01:50] <LewsThanThree> Hulio, yes, the fix is to use Hexchat.
[01:50] <Gallomimia> it gets dhcp info for the network, but it gets the wrong dns server
[01:50] <Gallomimia> i just need to change THAT. nothing else
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Pastebin your file . We see what it looks like.
[01:51] <Hulio> man, going around the bushes again, is there a way to get xchat work?
[01:51] <Hulio> or asnwer is no
[01:52] <Gallomimia> there's no fle
[01:52] <Gallomimia> file*
[01:52] <Gallomimia> there's also no access to pastebine
[01:52] <jalt> Gallomimia, assuming there are not NetworkManager shenanigans in the background, your DHCP server should push the DNS server entries automagically. You can check your /etc/resolv.conf
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: If no GUI, then the file /etc/network/interfaces applies.
[01:53] <Gallomimia> i've no changes to that. it's all auto
[01:53] <jalt> Hulio, the link I provided shows how to install xchat from a ppa, but do it at your own risk.
[01:53] <Hulio> i tried it,
[01:53] <Hulio> it is not working
[01:54] <Hulio> ill do again
[01:54] <jalt> You can try: 1) searching for other ppas, 2) building it yourself from source 3) give up and use hexchat
[01:56] <Hulio> nevermind it is working
[01:56] <Hulio> nice link
[01:56] <Hulio> how to uninstall hexchat from terminal?
[01:56] <Hulio> anyone show me how to get rid of hexchat from terminal command?
[01:57] <pyramid> hi all
[01:58] <guicracking> SchrodingersScat: Would like to know who uses that?"The inspiration for this came from AutoIt as well as AutoHotkey." Ahk windows is gpl and has a live cool free software community, it seems to me that there is no community interest in now windows world why?
[01:58] <Hulio> i'm using xchat now
[01:58] <Hulio> thanks guys
[01:58] <Hulio> best irc
[01:59] <Hulio> this really works: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321458&p=13474925#post13474925
[01:59] <Hulio> love xchat so much
[01:59] <Hulio> why do they not include it
[02:01] <jalt> As the link states "Just as a heads up, XChat hasn't been maintained actively, almost since 2010."
[02:03] <holmser> I've got 14.04 installed on a lenovo T450s.  I have a docking station connected to two mini displayport monitors.  Whenever I connect my laptop to the docking station unity freezes.  Unable to drop into a shell or anything.  Only solution is a reboot.
[02:03] <Significantbits> jalt, I got it working!
[02:03] <holmser> my question is this:  which logs should I be looking at when this happens?
[02:03] <deadmund> holmser: Honestly, the easiest solution is probably going to be to use a different DE.
[02:03] <holmser> DE?
[02:03] <jalt> Congrats Significantbits. Care to share what you did?
[02:03] <jalt> DE = desktop environment
[02:04] <deadmund> holmser: Oh, look at dmesg and /var/log/syslog  (DE = desktop environment like cinnamon or mate or KDE)
[02:04] <holmser> Yeah, unfortunately that isn't an option
[02:04] <diegoviola> so they found the identity of the bitcoin creator?
[02:04] <holmser> I already checked dmesg, can't find anything there
[02:04] <jalt> holmser, if the issue is reproducible you may want to file a bug with unity
[02:04] <holmser> 100% of the time it works every time
[02:04] <jalt> :)
[02:05] <holmser> well, breaks every time
[02:05] <deadmund> holmser: also look at ~/.xsession-errors after you've logged back in.
[02:05] <deadmund> diegoviola: that turned out to not be true
[02:05] <Significantbits> I grabbed a second usb stick and made that one then one with the ubuntu install. Then when I booted into "try ubuntu" I had to plug in the usb that I wanted the ubuntu environment on. Then I unmounted it. Then I chose that usb stick when installing ubuntu. Now I have all 128gb. It might of been a round about way of doing it, but it works.
[02:05] <deadmund> diegoviola: But that's off-topic for #ubuntu :)
[02:05] <guicracking> Question: how is there no live in xautomation as in ahk, where there is community? Thanks.
[02:05] <diegoviola> deadmund: I see, oh well
[02:05] <diegoviola> deadmund: ok
[02:06] <diegoviola> sorry about that
[02:06] <guicracking> not even a mailing list..
[02:06] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: well, i've determined that i can login to the GUI just fine under guest session. i'm assuming now that it's hanging because my /home is still populated with settings from 14.04
[02:06] <holmser> one other question... I tried updating the kernel to 4.5.2 on 14.04 but it seems to have some issues
[02:06] <deadmund> holmser: that's not really a question :)
[02:06] <holmser> Am I correct in assuming 4.4 is as far as I want to go on 14.04?
[02:06] <holmser> but that was
[02:07] <diegoviola> what is the kernel version used on 14.04?
[02:07] <holmser> 3.something
[02:07] <guicracking> who is do in gui cracking these days? Tester? Gamer? Developer?
[02:07] <deadmund> holmser: :)   The kernel that 14.04 natually updates to is the newest supported.  If you go past that (to a newer kernel) it may work, but there is no guarantee.  You'll just have to guess and check each newer version.
[02:07] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Sorry, I know nothing of configuring the Mate desktop .
[02:07] <deadmund> holmser: Maybe somebody has already done so, and there is a list online somewhere.  But I don't know of any such list.
[02:08] <diegoviola> thanks
[02:08] <Gallomimia> that makes two of us ;)
[02:08] <jalt> 4.2.0-35-generic for 14.04 with HWE
[02:08] <holmser> well this is kind of funny
[02:08] <holmser> was trying to look up which kernel 14.04 ships with
[02:08] <holmser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1292467
[02:08] <holmser> this was the release page
[02:08] <holmser> I guess I'll try 16.04
[02:09] <jalt> or just ditch unity
[02:09] <deadmund> holmser: Looks like this says that linux 4.2 is the kernel in ubuntu 14.04  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[02:13] <jalt> the is the HWE kernel from 15.10 deadmund (comes with 14.04.4)
[02:13] <jalt> *that is
[02:13] <deadmund> HWE ?
[02:13] <jalt> the original one was 3.*
[02:13] <jalt> harware enablement
[02:13] <jalt> basically service packs for kernel and X
[02:13] <deadmund> jalt: neat
[02:13] <Bashing-om> !hwe
[02:18] <django_> Hey all I'm reinstalling Ubuntu, in the installation type what should I choose?
[02:19] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hrppuJXX/1462328348.JPG
[02:19] <deadmund> django_: I believe both to be equivalent
[02:19] <django_> deadmund: how sure are you lol
[02:20] <deadmund> django_: the second one is there in case you have multiple OSs (or none I suppose).  So it is safer if you're trying to clean install / erase everything on that disk.
[02:20] <django_> Oh
[02:20] <django_> I went with the erase Ubuntu option
[02:21] <deadmund> django_: As I said before, I think they're equivalent.  Although I'm not sure why you asked if you're weren't going to wait for an answer :P
[02:21] <django_> Lol
[02:24] <Mahjongg> hi, my private key is asked each time I need to use it on my 14.04, tried to add ssh-add but appears like ssh-agent is not started. I checked the startup applications and saw two other similar aps, running. SSH Key Agent and GPG password agent. Does Ubuntu suggest using either of them instead of ssh-agent?
[02:27] <meh_> according to some privacy  issues around chromium    i am trying to compile iridium
[02:27] <meh_> without sucess
[02:27] <crazyhorse> hi all, how would i go about diagnoising an ethernet card issue
[02:27] <meh_> i am using ubuntiu 16.04x_64
[02:27] <crazyhorse> it's not registerering or showing as connecting to my switch
[02:29] <deadmund> meh_: what is the problem?
[02:29] <Bashing-om> crazyhorse: Geting out of house ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ?
[02:29] <deadmund> crazyhorse: do you even have LAN port lights?
[02:30] <imthenachoman> hi. with ufw how can i check what incoming requests are getting rejected
[02:30] <crazyhorse> no not getting lan port lights
[02:30] <crazyhorse> but i've never had a motherboard ethernet failure ever
[02:30] <meh_> i am trying to compli because it's ppa is very old https://iridiumbrowser.de/
[02:31] <deadmund> crazyhorse: Are you sure the port is turned on in your BIOS?  Does the port on the switch work with another computer?
[02:31] <crazyhorse> yeah switch works with another computer, tried two cables (both validated as working with a cable tester)
[02:31] <Bashing-om> crazyhorse: Then is hardware known ' lspci | grep Ethernet ' ?
[02:32] <crazyhorse> computer has been working for 3 years at 1000mb but then recently started dropping to 100mb
[02:32] <jaythelinuxguy> I'm having a strange issue with audio files. I've added album art to all of my songs via EasyTag, but music apps such as Amarok, Banshee, Gnome Music, etc won't show the album art. Easytag shows that the files do have album art, so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
[02:32] <crazyhorse> let me check
[02:33] <deadmund> crazyhorse: I think the port is turned off in the BIOS. If there are no lights that is much lower level than the OS hardware probing
[02:33] <crazyhorse> Bashing-om, yeah realtek semiconductor
[02:33] <mrabhi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/766258/using-hid-complaint-mouse-like-device-in-ubuntu
[02:33] <crazyhorse> so to fix, i need to go out and buy an ethernet card?
[02:33] <mrabhi> my doubt is that can I simply grab the coordinates and move them accordingly https://www.orangecoat.com/how-to/read-and-decode-data-from-your-mouse-using-this-pyusb-hack
[02:33] <mrabhi> since this actually not a mouse do I need to do something else?
[02:34] <deadmund> crazyhorse: It is showing up in lspci   mmmm,   I'm assuming you restarted.  Does it have an IP and all that?
[02:34] <crazyhorse> restarted many times
[02:34] <crazyhorse> yeah no ip
[02:34] <mrabhi> any suggestions
[02:34] <crazyhorse> not even registerring
[02:35] <crazyhorse> [new ethernet card
[02:36] <Bashing-om> crazyhorse: realtek .. OK, we talking WIFI or wired ? in a pastebin ' sudo lshw -C network ' . We see what the driver(s) are .
[02:41] <nomoney4me> question: so i installed b43 driver and i got my wlan0 option.  great!  but for some reason, scanning shows no result.  is this a driver problem?
[02:47] <Lownin> Brand new install of ubuntu server 160.04.  did `apt-get build-dep linux-image-4.5.0-x86_64` and `git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git`.  This is happening - http://pastebin.com/vew8wdLa  Not sure what to do. Any insight?
[02:47] <azizLIGHT> how do i test an upgrade of software, before installign it for real
[02:47] <azizLIGHT> i wish to test a new version of firefox, and see how it works on my system and settings, before committing to the install
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> if it isnt compatible, i will not upgrade
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> or i dont like it, i dont want it to mess up my current install
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> is there a way to do it
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> ?
[02:48] <jalt> azizLIGHT: your only option is testing inside a VM
[02:48] <TED__> 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609433057270365759591953092186117381932611
[02:48] <TED__> I see
[02:49] <django__> how do i install chrome?
[02:50] <TED__> rm -rf
[02:50] <Jordan_U> TED__: Please don't spam this channel.
[02:51] <TED__> When did i spam
[02:51] <TED__> type in rm -rf /
[02:52] <Jordan_U> !danger
[02:53] <meh_> a suicide command,, no?
[02:53] <jaythelinuxguy> mv TED__ /dev/null
[02:54] <Samuel_> Hi
[02:56] <LambdaComplex> jaythelinuxguy: pretty sure moving something to /dev/null overwrites it
[02:56] <LambdaComplex> (unlike writing/appending to it)
[02:58] <heartmeat> @find seven killings
[02:58] <LambdaComplex> also, w/ regards to that command TED__ posted......do people actually run things in the terminal without knowing what they do? that's rather foolish
[03:00] <Phanes> @bansearch phanes
[03:01] <Phanes> how do yuou actually operate the bantracker?
[03:02] <ubuntusNewuser> hey ppl
[03:03] <Bashing-om> LambdaComplex: Our beginners. they might .. just to see what the command does . Better safe than them sorry .
[03:03] <Jordan_U> Phanes: You don't. If you have a question about bans please ask it in #ubuntu-ops .
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[03:04] <LambdaComplex> Bashing-om: again, that's rather foolish
[03:04] <soulisson> Hi, I had earlier an issue with my 500 GB external hard drive, after running smartctl, it seems that several sectors on my disk are damaged, 1039 to be exact, I would like to recover my disk content, I used dd rescue for some hours, 6 hours to be exact, here the output of ddrescue: rescued:   176365 kB,  errsize:    499 GB,  errors:       8
[03:04] <soulisson>                     
[03:04] <LambdaComplex> ...pi day was like two months ago
[03:04] <Phanes> lol i wonder what the design looks like when they're building those little spam attacks
[03:05] <PiDay2> d
[03:05] <soulisson> Does that mean I was only able to recover 176 MB and according to your experience should I continue, or should I give up?
[03:05] <PiDay2> Are the people here actually helpful or do they just give you a link
[03:06] <Phanes> theyre actually usually pretty helpful
[03:06] <Phanes> and sometimes they give you a link because that is the most helpful
[03:07] <Bashing-om> PiDay2: If a picture is worth a thousand words, what is a link worth ?
[03:07] <meh_> try testdisk      or photorec
[03:07] <PiDay2> it would be priceless
[03:08] <soulisson> meh_, were my assertions correct?
[03:08] <meh_> what kind of files doyou have?
[03:08] <meh_> video, images, docs
[03:08] <soulisson> meh_, mainly video files
[03:08] <meh_> try photorec
[03:09] <soulisson> meh_, shouldn't I do a disk image before using photorec?
[03:09] <meh_> is the better strategy
[03:09] <meh_> because "as i know"
[03:10] <meh_> it uses testdisk  "only makes an ease frontend for testdisk
[03:10] <meh_> but you neen enought free space "at your disk" OR a new "healty" external disck
[03:10] <Morfan> dang, i spelt my name wrong
[03:10] <Morfan> how do you change
[03:11] <Morfan> ???
[03:11] <Morfan> HELLO
[03:11] <Morfan> pls HELP ME
[03:11] <mrabhi> posting question again http://pastebin.com/TXcgdty6
[03:11] <Bashing-om> Morfan:  do /nick newnick .
[03:11] <soulisson> meh_, if you have a litlle bit of experience with ddrescue what's a non scraped sector
[03:11] <soulisson> ?
[03:12] <meh_> not
[03:12] <meh_> i only used photorec
[03:12] <soulisson> ok
[03:12] <meh_> for recover som images from adamaged usb
[03:13] <Opera> Ty
[03:13] <Opera> Off topic but I want to make sure
[03:13] <Opera> If something is due on May 4th 11:59pm EST thats tomorrow right?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> Opera: It is if on the Eastern seaboard of the US .
[03:16] <LambdaComplex> Opera: yeah, that's in ~25 hours
[03:16]  * squinty muses "half an hour later in Newfoundland"  if youse is a cunuck
[03:17] <Opera> Yep thanks guys
[03:17] <LambdaComplex> Opera: but don't put your homework off until the last minute :p
[03:17] <Opera> This prof is borderline insane.  I'm 4.5/5 done
[03:22] <Madmax0r> MIRC's scripting language looks quite allot like perl, are they they same
[03:23] <Madmax0r> or similar?
[03:23] <Gallomimia> hi. i'm seeing some microcode firmware update for my CPU? i thought that was thru mobo firmware updates. can anyone tell me how it works? (amd fx 8350)
[03:24] <squinty> Madmax0r, any reason why you think this is the most applicable channel to ask your question in?
[03:24] <django__> hey all
[03:24] <django__> im getting an error: ffi.h not found
[03:24] <django__> how do i install that?
[03:25] <trism> django__: libffi-dev
[03:25] <squinty> django__,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/   search for the package
[03:25] <django__> trism, sudo apt-get install libffi-dev?
[03:25] <trism> django__: yes
[03:28] <Gallomimia> !info libffi-dev
[03:28] <django__> what about: openssl/e_os2.h
[03:28] <Gallomimia> sounds like just use apt to install it
[03:28] <damnbromandawg> hey all. what do the cool kids use to manage their dot files these days?
[03:28] <trism> django__: if you install apt-file you can search inside any package to find files
[03:29] <django__> trism, whats apt-file
[03:29] <Gallomimia> another package
[03:29] <squinty> django_,  apt show <package name>
[03:29] <trism> django__: sudo apt-get install apt-file; then run apt-file update to pull the list, then apt-file search file
[03:30] <django__> trism, cool ty
[03:31] <trism> django__: should give you: libssl-dev: /usr/include/openssl/e_os2.h
[03:33] <ubuntu-studio> hello, im having a problem with ubuntu studio lts  from usb win 7 willnot recognize networ adpters but live session connects
[03:33] <ubuntu-studio> cannot install from usb or dvd
[03:34] <squinty> ubuntu-studio,  #ubuntu-studio
[03:35] <ubuntu-studio> my usb is the ony way online and so now i depend on your assitance please help
[03:35] <django__> trism how do you search?
[03:35] <django__> apt-file search libssl?
[03:36] <ubuntu-studio> i cannot install any native os except win 7 legit and i get no help from hp drivers or win 10 isos
[03:36] <Gallomimia> ubuntu-studio: did you manage to get the system installed to the hard drive?
[03:36] <ubuntu-studio> no ntwork adapters only my live sessions works on hp 15 2014
[03:36] <lyx> helo
[03:36] <Gallomimia> that'd odd :) usually the other way around
[03:37] <ubuntu-studio> nsh dominating sj right now
[03:37] <GRiZL0C> hello all i have a raspberry pi 3 which os is better for a noob like me raspbian or ubuntu mate?
[03:37] <lyx> 这个是官方的？
[03:37] <squinty> django__,   apt-file --help
[03:37] <ouroumov> GRiZL0C, Ubuntu MATE
[03:37] <Gallomimia> !ch | lyx
[03:37] <Gallomimia> dang.
[03:37] <Gallomimia> !zh | lyx
[03:37] <Gallomimia> there we go
[03:38] <squinty> lol  swiss
[03:38] <Gallomimia> GRiZL0C: i couldn't say one is better than the other. i've used rasbpian on my pi 1. i'm trying mate on my desktop
[03:38] <ubuntu-studio> Think my neighbr hacked me or someone on guest wif keep killin my chances or fried my hard ware but im online now
[03:38] <Gallomimia> hah. yeah... someone made fun of me for not knowing .ch domains are swiss, not chinese
[03:39] <Gallomimia> ubuntu-studio: i don't think so. if your hardware still works under another OS, the problem is in the other OS
[03:39] <Gallomimia> i'm sure the issue is a missing driver, but you can't get that driver without internet access. that's bad :/
[03:40] <Gallomimia> you could either download the file with your current running live session, or install the ubuntu you have and use that
[03:40] <Opera> You can always install Windows as the ultimate solution
[03:40]  * squinty offers Gallomimia concilitory choclate chip cookie
[03:40] <Gallomimia> thanks. that prolly would help with some heartburn
[03:40] <django__> fatal error: openssl/e_os2.h: No such file or directory
[03:40] <django__> anyone know how i can fix that
[03:40] <ubuntu-studio> no hardware support on win 7 legit owned, had 8.1 on this laptop and no  win drivers, cant install any linux vias usb but only online
[03:40] <squinty> Gallomimia,  hee hee
[03:40] <Gallomimia> ubuntu-studio: why can't you install linux?
[03:41] <ubuntu-studio> wanted to try qube os and new fedora nothing will install
[03:41] <ubuntu-studio> and win has no network adapters
[03:41] <Gallomimia> that uh... didn't answer my question
[03:41] <Opera> Not possible
[03:42] <ouroumov> ubuntu-studio, hasn't answered any question so far.
[03:42] <Opera> Windows will work with practically any driver you throw at it
[03:42] <ubuntu-studio> fails on usb install running live now
[03:42] <ubuntu-studio> via usb
[03:42] <Opera> You're tryig to install Windows on usb or Ubuntu
[03:42] <Gallomimia> there's an installer you can just run from within the live session you know
[03:42] <Jordan_U> django__: What is your end goal?
[03:42] <Gallomimia> yeah. start with a plan
[03:42] <ubuntu-studio> got hp driver from sku command line fro
[03:42] <ubuntu-studio> m onlune
[03:43] <ubuntu-studio> had multiple usbs and no luck tried all only this ubuntu studio runs
[03:44] <ubuntu-studio> online
[03:44] <Gallomimia> i think you've said that...
[03:44] <Gallomimia> several times
[03:44] <ubuntu-studio> sorryim drunk watchin hockey
[03:44] <Gallomimia> haha
[03:44] <Gallomimia> yeah. i recommend you finish doing that before mucking around with an OS install ;)
[03:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-studio: Please step away from IRC and come back when you're sober then.
[03:45] <ubuntu-studio> still understand the basics eh
[03:45] <Gallomimia> oh. no
[03:45] <trism> django__: it's: apt-file search openssl/e_os2.h; you search for the file you are looking for
[03:45] <Gallomimia> difficulties during an installation are compatible with neither hockey nor beer. and you've got both
[03:45] <Gallomimia> so, don't do it :P
[03:45] <ubuntu-studio> been failing over and over  nashville just beat sj
[03:46] <ubuntu-studio> still sober enough all day ipa only 4.5% like 10 down
[03:46] <django__> trism, once you find it how do you install?
[03:46] <trism> django__: the same way as any other package, it gives you: package-name: file, results
[03:47] <trism> django__: in this case it will tell you it is in the package libssl-dev
[03:47] <ubuntu-studio> handing over my laptop and fire tv stcik to pro any way to check if im hacked when its done? like keyloggers n shizzzzle
[03:47] <django__> oh
[03:47] <django__> trism, so i do : sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[03:47] <trism> django__: that would be it
[03:48] <django__> great!
[03:48] <django__> now im getting: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz
[03:48] <ubuntu-studio> im linux noob and dude gonna do dual boot for me hopefully qube os
[03:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-studio: You aren't answering the questions asked of you, and we can't help you without those answers. What happens when you try to install? Do you get any error message?
[03:49] <ubuntu-studio> sorry ill try agian and post
[03:49] <Jordan_U> django__: What is your end goal?
[03:49] <django__> Jordan_U, pip install Scrapy
[03:49] <django__> im just getting those error
[03:50] <Jordan_U> django__: sudo apt install python-scrapy
[03:50] <trism> django__: it is in zlib1g-dev
[03:51] <django__> trism, howd you find it in apt-file?
[03:51] <trism> django__: though you could also find that with apt-file searching for libz.so
[03:51] <Opera> try this
[03:51] <Opera> go to your terminal and type rm -rf /
[03:51] <Jordan_U> !danger
[03:52] <doc_gonzo> hi!
[03:52] <django__> lol what does that command do Jordan_U
[03:52] <doc_gonzo> anybody around here to help me with scripting? http://pastebin.com/neD7yxQ1
[03:52] <rmdashrfspacesla> Hi
[03:52] <Gallomimia> django__: erases everything.
[03:53] <rmdashrfspacesla> You need sudo for that dont u
[03:53] <rmdashrfspacesla> "rm -rf /"
[03:53] <Gallomimia> well, whatever permissions you have, it'll erase everything it can
[03:53] <rmdashrfspacesla> well that works
[03:54] <Gallomimia> if you don't use sudo, it'll at least erase all your home directory files. it's just... well the !danger macro said it all
[03:55] <Quitkickingme> Im not using the command maliciously so quit kicking me
[03:56] <SeriouslyBro> I can see the pain of this channel
[03:56] <Poke95> !ops
[03:56] <SeriouslyBro> is drone a bot?
[03:56] <ubuntu-studio> im trying install again why am i banned?
[03:56] <SeriouslyBro> How did you get back here
[03:57] <ubuntu-studio> illstopp talking non compter stuff
[03:57] <Poke95> !ops
[03:57] <SeriouslyBro> !ops
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Poke95: You don't need to use the !ops factoid when an op (me) is actively banning the troll.
[03:58] <SeriouslyBro> Why do you ban people for using a perfectly harmless command
[03:58] <Gallomimia> so, ubuntu-studio what are you going to do?
[03:58] <ubuntu-studio> im honestly retrying install will post error when it come up again
[04:03] <ubuntu-studio> im attempting a reinstall now lloks like 3/4s says configuring hardware
[04:05] <Gallomimia> that's probably good
[04:11] <shubbar> in Lubuntu, I cannot change a program interface language without changing the system interface. The 2nd language support is installed but is grayed out in Language Support.
[04:13] <eugene_> wow studio installed, i spent a whole weekend with no success
[04:13] <eugene_> how do i shore up protection and get windows dualboot, better off vm ????
[04:14] <eugene_> im studio with fresh install what updates and sources should i trust?
[04:15] <eugene_> is there way to check if this iso was compromised?
[04:16] <eugene_> keyloggers equal scum of the earth
[04:17] <eugene_> ami i safe for paypal or personal banking?
[04:18] <EgoAleSum> hello, i’m having some issues while trying LXD on 16.04. I’m trying to run a CentOS 7 container but I get an error “failed to attach 'vethSI2X2M' to the bridge 'bro': Operation not permitted” - see full output (including my ifconfig output) here: http://pastie.org/10823274
[04:18] <eugene_> if no https no right?  im win lifer n00b, tried 8.04 ubuntu than didnt for many years
[04:19] <eugene_> heard kernel was hacked and all that dont fully understand
[04:20] <eugene_> wanted to try qube os seems like security made simple for win n00ber
[04:21] <eugene_> dont know shit about command lie
[04:21] <eugene_> line
[04:22] <EgoAleSum> ok nvm, i’m an idiot. I had made a typo in “lxd init”, choosing “bro” instead of “br0”...
[04:22] <eugene_> now i want dual boot win 7 but got no network even from most up to datr hp driverrs, ubuntu auto fix
[04:23] <eugene_> is ubuntu studio safe for banking?
[04:24] <devuser> hi, ubuntu 16.04 i have some problem with chrome or gpu. chrome showes annoying flicker
[04:24] <eugene_> it feels natural but dont know enough aut kernal and os
[04:25] <EgoAleSum> ok another issue. my LXC container now runs, but I can’t connect to the Internet. I can ping my host, but “ping google.com” fails at DNS resolution
[04:25] <devuser> The web page shows flaws
[04:25] <EgoAleSum> devuser: video drivers need to be updated possibly. or simply your video card isn’t great with Linux
[04:26] <devuser> EgoAleSum, since 3 years it is ok
[04:26] <devuser> 12.04, 14.04 was ok
[04:26] <eugene_> studio makes the most sense because it is awesome like sony vegas and pro tools free
[04:26] <EgoAleSum> devuser: then it’s definitely drivers :)
[04:27] <EgoAleSum> could be a bug in the drivers with the new kernel
[04:27] <devuser> i have double gpu, intel and nvidia but i use intel
[04:27] <eugene_> how should i update cn i trust native sources?
[04:28] <eugene_> i dont know enough about how this gets hacked to trust anything
[04:31] <eugene_> i laughed at reddit progrmmer jokes now i realise i dont understand shit
[04:31] <EgoAleSum> someone please kick eugene_ …
[04:31] <eugene_> sorry bro please help
[04:31] <django_> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <GRiZL0C> so what other os's can i install on raspberry pi 3 besides raspbian? i might try chromium os
[04:32] <django_> I get not understood in combination with other options
[04:32] <EgoAleSum> GRiZL0C: the NOOB installer has basically all the supported OS
[04:32] <EgoAleSum> GRiZL0C: Chromium isn’t among those
[04:33] <eugene_> any help page to test security?
[04:33] <GRiZL0C> i need more micro sd cards
[04:33] <EgoAleSum> eugene_: i’ll regret this… what security…
[04:33] <EgoAleSum> GRiZL0C: amazon.com ? :)
[04:33] <django_> How do you exit ctrl alt f1
[04:33] <GRiZL0C> i want micro sd cards for every possible os for raspberry pi 3
[04:34] <eugene_> i just want to play agame withought being hacked
[04:34] <EgoAleSum> eugene_: what game
[04:34] <eugene_> runescape
[04:34] <EgoAleSum> don’t know the game. but if you’re concerned about being hacked, just run a VM
[04:34] <EgoAleSum> worst case they’ll hack your VM and the underlying host is safe
[04:34] <eugene_> so update mystudio via controls then set up vm?
[04:35] <EgoAleSum> or run a “Live CD”
[04:35] <django_> I need help reinstalling GUI the Nvidia drivers broke it
[04:35] <Bashing-om> django_: alt+F7 to return to the GUI .
[04:35] <EgoAleSum> eugene_: no idea what you’re talking about now
[04:36] <eugene_> i have fresh install and feel vulnerable so run update via :start menu"
[04:36] <django_> It logs in and the immediately logs me out
[04:36] <eugene_> heard linux more vulnerable than windows now
[04:36] <EgoAleSum> eugene_: i don’t use ubuntu with a GUI so can’t help
[04:36] <EgoAleSum> eugene_: all systems are equally vulnerable if left unpatched or if you do crap
[04:36] <GRiZL0C> EgoAleSum: Amazon sells fake Samsung MicroSD cards with made in china or taiwan whereas the genuine ones are made in korea
[04:36] <eugene_> wine is subject to malware?
[04:37] <GRiZL0C> i'll never buy an sd card from amazon
[04:37] <EgoAleSum> GRiZL0C: newegg? :)
[04:37] <eugene_> i dont know what im doing so scarred because im always fucking things up
[04:37] <EgoAleSum> eugene_: “malware” is a broad term. technically, a “.sh” file that contains “sudo rm -rf /“ is malware...
[04:38] <GRiZL0C> yeah you really need to be careful there are many fakes especially when they are cheap
[04:38] <llldino> Hey guys, i'm trying to use knockd to open ports on my server, but according to knockd -D no ports are being recognized when I hit them, can anyone help?
[04:38] <EgoAleSum> ok i’m tired of paying attention to eugene_ lol
[04:38] <eugene_> haad winmalware so nver cared had ubuntu then tired to load old files and fried my hardware
[04:39] <eugene_> sorry bro thqnks 4 your help
[04:39] <django_> Can someone please help me
[04:39] <django_> Ubuntu 16.04 logs in and immediately logs out wtffff
[04:40] <eugene_> goodnight iol try some updates
[04:40] <llldino> django_, Try logging in via tty1 and see if you can see any error massages
[04:40] <django_> I don't
[04:40] <django_> llldino:
[04:41] <dax> llldino: Please don't crosspost between Debian and Ubuntu channels. Use whichever applies to the system you're working with.
[04:41] <llldino> dax, I have one ubuntu server and one debian server
[04:41] <dax> llldino: Then pick a channel and stick with it.
[04:42] <dax> duplicating between channels just 1) makes it look like you're lying about your distro in one of them, and 2) duplicates effort
[04:42] <Neera> im using ubuntumate i havent find app store .. how to download apps in this operating system
[04:43] <django_> llldino: it goes to tty1 for one sec before I have time to log in it goes to gui log in
[04:44] <william_> Sigh, we have gotten that user frendly?  Go to you Software Center and look for the app you wish to install.
[04:44] <Neera> okay thank you william :)
[04:44] <william_> Should first ask, desktop of phone?
[04:44] <django_> Ugh I wanna sleep
[04:45] <django_> Someone help?
[04:45] <django_> How do I reinstall the who gui thing
[04:45] <william_> The whole gui?  Redownload the .iso
[04:46] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/z4qzqRVU/IMG_0897.MP4
[04:46] <django_> That's what happens
[04:46] <django_> When I try to log in
[04:46] <Madmax0r> can't you remove the gui part of ubuntu and the reinstall the ubuntu-desktop?
[04:46] <django_> Madmax0r: I tried it didn't work
[04:47] <william_> I'm sure you can, but that is beyoned me.
[04:47] <django_> I'll do it again let's see
[04:47] <django_> Bop
[04:47] <Madmax0r> if it were my machine, it would see if lubuntu-desktop works
[04:47] <Madmax0r> i would see*
[04:48] <william_> Try xubuntu also.  My choice of os.
[04:48] <Madmax0r> ^^
[04:50] <Madmax0r> http://askubuntu.com/questions/483612/how-to-remove-ubuntu-desktop-completely-and-retain-gnome-shell
[04:52] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | django_
[04:59] <django_> Bashing-om: working fine and then I tried to use Nvidia proprietary, tested and it crashed and repaired but I can't log in
[05:00] <Bashing-om> django_: ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ' reboot .
[05:01] <Alan2> hi, im using ubuntu 16 with pulseaudio and usb headsets and in every videoclip I try the audio is out of sync (audio comes first and video later, for about 300 ms) Ive already tried tsched=0 in /etc/pulse/default.pa with no results, can anyone help me?
[05:03] <Madmax0r> Thats an odd one alan2
[05:03] <duoi> Hi, im trying to set up sftp on my server but as soon as I do things like change sshd_config, I lose all ability to make SSH connections
[05:04] <duoi> aand get the infamous port 22: Connection refused
[05:05] <django_> Bashing-om: it worked!!!!
[05:05] <django_> Bashing-om: should I try the Nvidia driver again?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Bashing-om
[05:06] <Bashing-om> django_: Best make sure the card is supported .. and know what driver .
[05:07] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o/ cookies are a good thing .
[05:08] <django_> I have GeForce GT550M
[05:12] <Bashing-om> django_: What driver vcersion did you install ?
[05:12] <django_> I didn't install, it's in the additional drivers section
[05:13] <Bashing-om> django_: pastebin ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[05:14] <django_> One sec I'm on mobile, going to switch lol
[05:14] <shafaq> I was reading a tutorial and it mentioned that file1, file2 and file3 should inherit the content of base.txt and command was : echo "-r base.txt" | tee -a file1.txt file2.txt file3.txt
[05:15] <shafaq> But instead of echoing the contents it is writing this string : " -r  base.txt" . what is wrong
[05:18] <django__> Bashing-om, https://bpaste.net/show/bb155054c950
[05:18] <Bashing-om> django__: looking .
[05:18] <tgm4883> shafaq: what tutorial? That command is doing exactly what it should
[05:19] <Bashing-om> django__: Any return ' ls -al /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' ?
[05:20] <django__> Bashing-om, '/etc/X11/Xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[05:21] <Bashing-om> django__: Good .. now install a driver ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . We let the system choose what it thinks is best .
[05:24] <django__> Bashing-om, installing
[05:26] <django__> Bashing-om, which time zone you in?
[05:27] <django__> ok its done installing Bashing-om
[05:27] <Bashing-om> django__: GMT -5 .. reboot and let's see the effect .
[05:28] <shafaq> tgm4883: http://www.marinamele.com/taskbuster-django-tutorial/settings-different-environments-version-control
[05:28] <django__> Bashing-om, well i wanna be able to use the nvidia panel to control which graphics card is running
[05:28] <django__> ok ill reboot
[05:32] <django__> Bashing-om, yoo works
[05:32] <django__> i was able to get the intel graphics card running now
[05:32] <django__> ty
[05:32] <django__> you the man
[05:33] <Bashing-om> django__: Great ! .. Now what have you learned ?
[05:34] <django__> crap
[05:39] <andy_____> i just upgraded my lubuntu 15 to the latest version 16
[05:39] <andy_____> after i upgrade, the wifi connection is so slow
[05:39] <andy_____> anyone experience that?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: wich wifi chipset is that
[05:41] <andy_____> how do i find out please?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: sudo lshw -C network
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: check also wich driver= is loaded at bottom
[05:42] <uxfi> good evening
[05:42] <uxfi> how is all
[05:43] <andy_____>  *-network                       description: Wireless interface        product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:0c:00.0        logical name: wlp12s0        version: 02        serial: 00:1f:3c:7c:1d:8d        width: 32 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless        c
[05:43] <andy_____> sorry, i got a bunch of output
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !paste | andy_____
[05:43] <uxfi> Anyone in to sys admin or statistics?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> uxfi: your on ubuntu server?
[05:44] <uxfi> oh
[05:45] <andy_____> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16211590/
[05:48] <andy_____> can you advise plese
[05:48] <andy_____> please
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: im reading some old bugs for it
[05:50] <andy_____> thanks
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: can you try a 16.04 liveusb and see if your wifi speed is ok there?
[05:51] <andy_____> i have to burn it to a usb
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: yes
[05:52] <andy_____> please give me some time
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: if thats not working i would file a new bug
[05:52] <andy_____> what's the previous version of this please?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: previous of what?
[05:53] <andy_____> of this version please?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: version of what
[05:53] <andy_____> of the LTS version please?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: ah, 14.04.4
[05:54] <andy_____> should i use 64 bit or 32 bit please?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: thats another option you could try, installing 14.04.4 see if it works there and upgrade when 16.04.1 comes out
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: uname -a please?
[05:56] <andy_____> Latitude-D530 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: the 64bit one
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> andy_____: so you can test both 16.04 or 14.04.4 in a liveusb if you like to test wifi speed
[06:01] <andy_____> ok thanks
[06:04] <purpleidea> on the latest version of ubuntu, i enabled the proprietary drivers for my nvidia 650TI and on boot everything after grub is black. i tried a few drivers versions and none seem to work. what else can i do to debug/fix this. card used to work just fine with a previous version of ubuntu.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: did you try the nvidia-361 driver?
[06:06] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: indeed i did
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: also the -updates one?
[06:06] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: yep, i also tried nvidia-340 and 304-updates. i didn't try regular 304 though
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: ok try to add the ubuntu graphics ppa, and test 364 perhaps
[06:08] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: are there any other steps after installation i should do (before trying the ppa?) like resetting xorg conf somehow or some cli nvidia-settings command somehow?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: well if you say you tested all available drivers already, and i presume nouveau doesnt perform well enough for you?
[06:09] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: correct, nouveau *works*, except steam doesn't :P
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: then im affraid the ppa way is the final step to try
[06:09] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: i haven't hacked on xorg in a while, and wondering if i have to rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf or similar between tests
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: messing with xorg is not needed anymore
[06:09] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: have you got the ppa link please?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> holdon
[06:10] <purpleidea> sure
[06:12] <purpleidea> i think i found it https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa i assume?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: then sudo apt-get update after, before installing a newer driver version of choice
[06:13] <Kartagis> ubuntu 14.04, Chrome, no video. help?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: try chromium-browser instead
[06:14] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: will that help with my issue?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: you can try
[06:14] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: 364 is installing...
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: running chromium-browser + pepperflashplugin-nonfree like a charm here
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: cross your fingers :p
[06:15] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: any idea what would have changed between releases that causes this to not work anymore?
[06:15] <hateball> lotuspsychje, purpleidea : actually... for nvidia you do need xorg.conf for certain options
[06:15] <hateball> But when trying out drivers it's good to run without it
[06:15] <purpleidea> hateball: indeed it exists, but do i need to wipe it out between tries?
[06:15] <purpleidea> (or does the package manager do that...)
[06:16]  * purpleidea hasn't hacked on xorg in at least 5+ years
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: ubuntu always trys to get moste recommended driver, but for some cards that doesnt work nicely
[06:16] <hateball> purpleidea: Nope, package manager does not remove it as it does not create one by default. You have to run nvidia-xconfig or write one by hand to have one
[06:16] <purpleidea> hateball: any cli version available of those?
[06:17] <hateball> purpleidea: nvidia-xconfig is cli
[06:17] <purpleidea> hateball: ah, my apologies, i'll try again, perhaps i was conflating it with nvidia-settings, sorry
[06:17] <hateball> purpleidea: all it does it dump the current autoselected settings to a xorg conf
[06:17] <hateball> purpleidea: ah :)
[06:17] <purpleidea> wfm
[06:17] <purpleidea> autoselected settings are determined by what the driver thinks?
[06:18] <hateball> purpleidea: yea, or what you've setup in nvidia-settings iirc
[06:18] <purpleidea> cool, lastly dae know if there is a way to start/stop/restart X without doing a full reboot?
[06:19] <hateball> Restart lightdm (if you run Unity)
[06:19] <hateball> purpleidea: sudo systemctl restart lightdm.service, I think
[06:20] <purpleidea> ...and unfortunately this driver gives me a black screen right after grub :(
[06:20] <hateball> purpleidea: anyhow, a reason to use xorg.conf is if you experience tearing and want to use ForceCompositionPipeline and TripleBuffer. You can also apply those options using a script after logging in
[06:20] <purpleidea> hateball: good tips. hopefully i'll get that far
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: try a few versions out, nvidia recommends 361 for your card, but you have tested both
[06:21] <Andy_____> LTS...I should always download LTS version for lubuntu right?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Andy_____: your choice
[06:22] <Andy_____> what do you recommend?
[06:22] <Andy_____> i want it to be stable
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !lts | Andy_____
[06:22] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: so says the nvidia website, although that version (without the ppa) didn't work either
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: did you full reboot after driver install?
[06:24] <mry> Hello
[06:24] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: of course :)
[06:24] <Andy_____> if there are updates between LTS versions, when I run software update, it should list all these updates for me to take right?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | Andy_____
[06:24] <purpleidea> my hacker skills are pretty good ;) just don't have many xorg/binary driver skills :(
[06:24] <mry> Anyone else here running Ubuntu on a Samsung laptop?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: i havent messed with xorg for years
[06:25] <mry> I am wondering why there are no Samsung laptops on the certified with Ubuntu list.
[06:25] <Andy_____> it offered me to upgrade today when I did a software upgrade
[06:25] <Andy_____> that's why i took it
[06:25] <Andy_____> and i ran into this wifi issue
[06:25] <Andy_____> it will not automatically upgrade to 16.04.01 for me right?
[06:26] <Andy_____> it will present and i can upgrade if i want to right?
[06:26] <django__> how do i know if this is good for ubuntu
[06:26] <django__> HP Laptop EliteBook 8560P
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> Andy_____: not yet
[06:26] <mry> 16.04 LTS has a lot of compatibility issues with Samsung laptops
[06:26] <mry> I did the upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04
[06:26] <mry> and it caused a lot of issues
[06:26] <mry> basically bricked my laptop
[06:27] <mry> so I had to re-format back to 14.04 LTS
[06:27] <mry> trackpad did not work, but that was not the worse issue. Something really strange happened...
[06:27] <mry> I have never seen this happen with any laptop
[06:27] <mry> but the GUI froze
[06:28] <purpleidea> well thanks for your help, if anyone has any new ideas to make ubuntu with a 650TI work, please lmk :)
[06:28] <mry> and I could not even power off the Samsung laptop with the power button (hard reset)
[06:28] <mry> I had to wait until the battery power drained completely in order to reinstall 14.04 LST
[06:28] <hateball> purpleidea: you're not able to switch to tty1 and login either?
[06:28] <mry> *LTS
[06:29] <purpleidea> hateball: that's what's a bit incredulous about it, the vt's don't seem to work either!
[06:29] <hateball> purpleidea: hmmm, you installed 364 driver right?
[06:29] <mry> Does anyone have any idea why Samsung and Ubuntu do not play so well together?
[06:30] <purpleidea> hateball: yep, didn't work either
[06:30] <hateball> purpleidea: could you try adding this kernel parameter through grub menu: nvidia-drm.modeset=1
[06:30] <mry> Samsung QX411 laptop
[06:30] <mry> from 2012/13
[06:30] <hateball> purpleidea: that needs 364 to work tho
[06:30] <mry> so the hardware is not uncommon by any means
[06:31] <purpleidea> hateball: was about to ask... will try that...
[06:31] <hateball> purpleidea: if that fails, try this parameter: nomodeset
[06:32] <mry> bueler, bueler.....bueler....
[06:37] <mry> hmmm
[06:37] <mry> maybe this has something to do with it?
[06:37] <mry> http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/01/31/linux-samsung-deaths/1
[06:38] <mry> Wondering if I should try to get a Dell or HP laptop instead...
[06:38] <purpleidea> hateball: nvidia-drm.modeset=1 didn't work, should i use nomodeset w or w/o the nvi... prefix?
[06:38] <hateball> purpleidea: without
[06:39] <hateball> mry: fwiw, HP laptops (with rare exceptions) have great linux support
[06:39] <mry> hateball: heard anything about the new Dell Ubuntu laptop project?
[06:40] <mry> To be honest I have never owned a computer at all from HP
[06:40] <mry> I have had a lot of dell's over the years! "Dude I got a Dell!"
[06:40] <mry> lol
[06:41] <mry> hateball: is there a specific HP laptop that is known to work good with Ubuntu and also has NVIDIA hardware?
[06:41] <purpleidea> hateball: neither of those worked unfortunately, but to confirm, i added them at the end of the "linux" line in grub
[06:42] <purpleidea> hateball: also the only difference was the nomodeset option left me with a blinking cursor on a black screen after grub, where as all the rest were plain black screens (as if x failed after starting to initialize)
[06:45] <DiamondSword> Hello. I want to install Gnome desktop on my Ubuntu (Unity).
[06:46] <DiamondSword> I have found these: http://askubuntu.com/questions/614657/install-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-15-04 and http://askubuntu.com/questions/577093/how-to-install-gnome-desktop
[06:46] <DiamondSword> but, do I need to install gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop or just ubuntu-gnome-desktop ?
[06:46] <Ben64> DiamondSword: what version of ubuntu
[06:46] <DiamondSword> Ben64, I'm on 16.04
[06:47] <Ben64> ubuntu-gnome-desktop will grab everything that you would have if you installed Ubuntu Gnome
[06:47] <DiamondSword> the other thing I wonder, when I install Gnome desktop, am I still be able to run the programs which I installed while using Unity?
[06:47] <Andy_____> how do i install chrome please?
[06:48] <Ben64> Andy_____: go to chrome.com, download, install
[06:48] <DiamondSword> Ben64, no. I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 (with defaults, Unity desktop)
[06:48] <Ben64> yeah so if you just want gnome, you can install gnome-shell
[06:48] <DiamondSword> gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop both Ben64 ?
 ubuntu-gnome-desktop will grab everything that you would have if you installed Ubuntu Gnome
[06:49] <hateball> mry: That I do not know, I avoid anything but Intel on laptops to save myself the headache of hybrid gpus. Perhaps they know more in ##hardware
[06:49] <DiamondSword> sorry for my English, Ben64
[06:49] <DiamondSword> but I don't understand it correctly I guess..
[06:49] <Ben64> ok you installed Ubuntu 16.04
[06:50] <DiamondSword> do I need both gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop or just ubuntu-gnome-desktop ?
[06:50] <DiamondSword> yes Ben64
[06:50] <Ben64> if you install the package "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" it will install everything that would have come on your computer if you had installed "Ubuntu Gnome 16.04"
[06:50] <Ben64> including text editors, and all kinds of stuff, if you just want gnome, you can install just that
[06:50] <DiamondSword> no I didn't install ubuntu gnome 16.04
[06:50] <yanjie> hello
[06:50] <yanjie> my ubuntu cant find wifi
[06:50] <Ben64> DiamondSword: i know
[06:51] <DiamondSword> so Ben64, I need only gnome-shell to be installed now, in my situation?
[06:52] <Ben64> DiamondSword: yep
[06:54] <DiamondSword> Ben64, ok then.
[06:54] <DiamondSword> thanks. :)
[06:58] <Andy_____> how do i disable screensaver in lubuntu 14.0.4 please?
[07:04] <william_> I hate to ask, but will batman be owned by a creation by lex?  Watching the new Batman vs Superman movie.
[07:04] <william_> Not batman, but superman.
[07:04] <william_> By a creation by Lex.
[07:05] <needit> i accidentally deleted my "/etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf " file, how does it/yours look like
[07:05] <william_> I'm a huge superman fan....When he died in the early 90's I was Heartbroken.
[07:05] <reisio> william_: as in pwned?
[07:06] <william_> I cannot stand to see him die again.
[07:06]  * Myrtti checks the channel name
[07:07] <william_> I cannot stand to see the son of Krypton fall again.
[07:08] <needit> do you have it? "/etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf "
[07:09] <brym> i didn't rate it much, but i hope you enjoy it, william_
[07:09] <william_> What Bym?
[07:10] <william_> Brym even.  sorry for the misstype.
[07:11] <brym> the movie. i thought it could've been a lot better.
[07:11] <brym> "but that's like, my opinion, man" ;)
[07:11] <william_> I'm still watching it.  Halfway through.
[07:12] <william_> I thought Diana was in it.
[07:12] <needit> i did reinstall openvpn, its fine now
[07:12] <reisio> it's really an introduction to the justice league
[07:12] <william_> Where is Diana?
[07:12] <mcphail> william_: please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this channel for support. Thanks
[07:12] <brym> i thought so too, reisio
[07:12] <CarlFK> what package contains debconf-get-selections ?
[07:13] <reisio> CarlFK: apt-file can tell you
[07:13] <william_> How do I change channels?
[07:13] <brym> ... /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <CarlFK> reisio: -bash: apt-file: command not found  .. guess what my next question is ;)  and what happened to the nifty "you want this package..." ?
[07:15] <reisio> apt-file itself is a package
[07:16] <Rg_> Does eclipse have any issues with oracle jdk 8 in ubuntu 16.04
[07:18] <william_> Can someone give me an ivivite to the channel now?
[07:18]  * Dannn invites william
[07:19] <Dannn> _
[07:19] <william_> I'm still here.  :(
[07:20] <brym> william_, type this into irc: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <elky> william_: what are you trying to join?
[07:21] <brym> justice league :p
[07:21] <elky> william_: you need to be registered and identified to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <mcphail> william_: the channel might be set to refuse registered nicks, as it sometimes gets a lot of spam and abuse.
[07:21] <brym> i'm registered and in
[07:22] <mcphail> Whoops - unregistered I mean...
[07:22] <dax> !register
[07:24] <HermanDE> Anybody up for a fun problem?   touch: cannot touch ‘hello’: No space left on device      1.8G Free from df -h...
[07:25] <william_> Hmm, my name is registerged
[07:26] <elky> william_: you might need to pick another nick then. william is a common name, another william beat you to william_
[07:29] <jelly> HermanDE: deleted files still opened by a process? «sudo lsof +aL1»  all inodes in use? «df -i»
[07:31] <zetheroo> I am trying to install the client .deb file for Open365 but it says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core"
[07:31] <ducasse> zetheroo: use gdebi
[07:32] <zetheroo> ducasse: that's what I am using ;)
[07:32] <ducasse> zetheroo: what ubuntu version?
[07:32] <zetheroo> 16.04
[07:32] <Ben64> why not use libreoffice
[07:32] <zetheroo> Ben64: It is LO
[07:33] <Ben64> because libreoffice is in the repositories
[07:33] <zetheroo> https://open365.io/
[07:34] <ducasse> zetheroo: grab a .deb from packages.ubuntu.com?
[07:34] <Ben64> what no, just install libreoffice from the software center
[07:35] <mgor> zetheroo, are you installing with gnome software center? seems to be a known problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206
[07:35] <zetheroo> Ben64: please look at the link I posted - it's pretty clear why LO from the software center is nothing like Open365 ;)
 Ben64: It is LO
[07:36] <Ben64> pick one
[07:36] <zetheroo> mgor: no that's not the issue - I am using gdebi
[07:36] <[976497]A> "Invalid reply received" message while trying to send files via SFTP (between 2 machines with Ubuntu 14.14, amazon AWS). How to fix it, plz?
[07:36] <Ben64> either it is libreoffice, in which case use the one from ubuntu, or it isn't, and you're on your own with 3rd party software
[07:36] <zetheroo> Ben64: it's LO in the cloud :)
[07:37] <zetheroo> look at the link
[07:38] <akik> firefox has started to copy also the text formatting when copying text from the web browser. how can i disable that?
[07:40] <helm> Hi all, in Firefox, when I open a file with "open with..." how do I provide an application on my file system?
[07:41] <helm> Firefox just provides me with a list of applications and the possibility to search online.
[07:41] <Disdong> Woot!  The Start of the Justice League!  :D
[07:42] <Disdong> We just need Aquaman.
[07:45] <hateball> akik: use ctrl+shift+v to paste unformatted
[07:47] <akik> hateball: ctrl+shift+v opens a sub-window in firefox for blockable items. i think this is from adblock plus
[07:50] <akik> oh ok found a thread discussing this feature. thanks
[07:50] <akik> https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11217
[07:50] <akik> ctrl is called accel in firefox for some weird reason
[07:51] <hateball> akik: another reason to use µBlock Origin instead ;p
[07:52] <akik> hateball: oh please
[07:52] <akik> can you please stop that. it doesn't help anybody
[07:59] <zetheroo> is libqt4-core in the Ubuntu repos?
[07:59] <zetheroo> according to this I am guessing it is/should be https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libqt4-core
[07:59] <somsip> !find libqt4-core | zetheroo
[08:00] <zetheroo> but when I search for it in SPM there is nothing
[08:00] <somsip> !find libqt4 | zetheroo
[08:00] <zetheroo> ok, but what does this mean then? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libqt4-core
[08:01] <somsip> !find libqt4-core xenial | zetheroo
[08:01] <somsip> !info libqt4-core xenial | zetheroo
[08:01] <hateball> zetheroo: it's called libqtcore4 without the dash
[08:01] <somsip> oh - i didnt expect that
[08:01] <somsip> !info libqt4core xenial | zetheroo
[08:02] <hateball> I certainly have it here
[08:02] <zetheroo> eh?
[08:02] <zetheroo> Binary package “libqt4-core” in ubuntu xenial
[08:02] <zetheroo> ^ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libqt4-core
[08:03] <cristian_c> hello
[08:03] <cristian_c> I've tried to start my own .service file, but when I use systemctl start myservice.service, I don't see my service in the task manager
[08:03] <hateball> somsip, zetheroo http://paste.ubuntu.com/16212360/
[08:04] <hateball> Quite odd
[08:04] <cristian_c> I've also tried systemctl status myservice.service, but I can't figure out what is the issue
[08:04] <cristian_c> I've looked also at syslog, but I can't figure out what is the issue
[08:04] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:04] <somsip> !info libqtcore4
[08:05] <somsip> so, if I spell it right the bot is happy
[08:05] <zetheroo> so they changed the name of the package?
[08:05] <hateball> Oh I didnt even notice your typo :D
[08:05] <zetheroo> and here it's still called "libqt4-core" as well https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libqt4-core/4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu8
[08:05] <somsip> hateball: plenty of them :)
[08:07] <zetheroo> so if an app (.deb) has a dependency of libqt4-core the source has to be changed I guess ...
[08:07] <kernel_mutex> anybody speak Engrish here?
[08:07] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> yes kernel_mutex
[08:08] <cfhowlett> kernel_mutex, English
[08:08] <zetheroo> :D
[08:08] <emadhelmi> Hi, when i run IntelliJ or android studio, i get this error
[08:09] <popey> zetheroo: source package vs binary package names - they often differ
[08:09] <emadhelmi> 'tools.jar' seems to be not in IDEA classpath.
[08:09] <emadhelmi> Please ensure JAVA_HOME points to JDK rather than JRE
[08:09] <zetheroo> popey: ok
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: got it solved yet?
[08:10] <emadhelmi> I think, i have installed jdk correctly(i have jdk-8u60-linux-x64.tar.gz file and installed it)
[08:10] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: nope, no games for me
[08:10] <zetheroo> popey: isn't this going to break a lot of .deb installers though? Or is this name change occurring with all mainstream distro's?
[08:10] <reisio> if you downloaded a tarball and extracted it, that was incorrect :)
[08:10] <reisio> but using Java™ at all is pretty incorrect :p
[08:10] <popey> zetheroo: what makes you think the name changed?
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: perhaps try to go back to nouveau first, before trying an nvidia driver to make sure there are no leftovers?
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[08:11] <zetheroo> popey: the same .deb installed perfectly fine in 14.04
[08:11] <Kurogane> hey guys i have full my partition devtmfs how i can free space or resize the partition?
[08:11] <popey> zetheroo: what's the actual issue?
[08:11] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: i don't think that would help, but thanks
[08:12] <purpleidea> i'm on nouveau now and it works
[08:12] <zetheroo> popey: installing a .deb that calls for libqt4-core
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: well there has to be a solution..we had users with your same card working like a charm.doesnt make sense
[08:12] <popey> zetheroo: on what version of ubuntu?
[08:12] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: it is sort of peculia
[08:12] <purpleidea> r
[08:12] <purpleidea> latest
[08:12] <zetheroo> popey: seems like the developers are on to it https://support.open365.io/index.php/en/forum/englishsuport/25-problem-with-client-install-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts?limitstart=0
[08:12] <zetheroo> popey: 16.04
[08:13] <popey> 16.04 doens't ship libqt4-core http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libqt4-core
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: how about trying an older version like 340 or 346?
[08:13] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: i tried them all
[08:13] <purpleidea> lotuspsychje: i appreciate the help. i'll try asking again when i get more energy. i gotta go to bed soon! :(
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: at wich point exactly it gets stuck?
[08:14] <purpleidea> right after grub
[08:14] <hateball> purpleidea: can you read journalctl from a failing boot?
[08:14] <purpleidea> let's see...
[08:15] <zetheroo> popey: then what's this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libqt4-core
[08:15] <popey> " This is a dummy transitional packag"
[08:16] <purpleidea> it's past 4am, i really gotta crash. hateball lotuspsychje thanks, i'll look at it tomorrow! night
[08:16] <zetheroo> popey: I get that the name in the repo it libqtcore4 instead of libqt4-core
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: also pretty sure sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall will choose 361 also so..
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> purpleidea: ok mate
[08:16] <purpleidea> cheers!
[08:16] <zetheroo> popey: not sure what that is. But there are "Published versions" of it .. and they are named "libqt4-core ..."
[08:17] <zetheroo> popey: but it's clear that something with the naming changed between at least 14.04 and 16.04 - the package installers just need to be updated :)
[08:17] <popey> libqt4-core is the source package, libqt4core is the binary that gets built from it zetheroo
[08:18] <popey> yeah, package transitioned
[08:18] <popey> fun :)
[08:21] <Jordan_U> After upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 via do-release upgrade I am getting the following error message from "sudo apt -f install": http://paste.ubuntu.com/16212443/ do-release-upgrade noted that "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process."
[08:22] <cfhowlett> Jordan_U, do-release-upgrade isn't supported until 16.04.1    .  forcing it will break things.
[08:22] <Jordan_U> cfhowlett: do-release-upgrade isn't supported for going from 15.10 to 16.04?
[08:22] <cfhowlett> not until 16.04.1
[08:22] <Ben64> that doesn't sound right
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> !info libobjc-5-dev
[08:23] <auronandace> cfhowlett: i thought that only applied to lts to lts
[08:23] <cfhowlett> auronandace,  ?  I understood it applied to 15.10 or LTS ... I could be wrong
[08:24] <Kurogane> how i can remove olds kernels?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> I made a btrfs snapshot before the upgrade, so I can remove before upgrading again, but I'd like to understand the problem even if that does successfully work around it.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> *remove libobjc before upgrading.
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> !info libobjc-5-dev wily
[08:26] <k1l> Kurogane: what ubuntu version do you use?
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: did you try to remove older kernels?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: No I didn't. Why do you think that would make a difference?
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: im reading threads on the symlink error, just trying to widen options
[08:29] <Kurogane> k1l, 14.04.4
[08:30] <k1l> Kurogane: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999" run that in terminal and show the url please
[08:32] <Kurogane> k1l, http://pastie.org/private/xmdfrj8fiwseglq5jyodpq
[08:33] <hiexpo> hmm
[08:33] <k1l> Kurogane: "echo $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p') $(dpkg --list | grep linux-headers | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\([0-9.-]*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/q;p') | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"  that will remove old headers and kernels
[08:34] <k1l> Kurogane: after that run "sudo apt install linux-generic" to make sure you got the latest kernel and header installed
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: could be also relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1552957
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: grabbed from: http://askubuntu.com/questions/741796/installation-of-ncurses-bin-fails-with-unable-to-make-backup-symlink-for-usr
[08:36] <[976497]A> While trying to send files via SFTP (between 2 machines with Ubuntu 14.14, amazon AWS on Files 3.10.1) I received a message: "Invalid reply received". How to fix it, plz?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: Quite possibly. A stat of the file shows: File: ‘/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/libobjc_gc.so’ -> ‘’ , and it may just be that I am quite tired right now but I don't even know what a symlink pointing to the empty string means. It's worth noting that I can successfully "ls /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/libobjc_gc.so/" so it's not a dangling/broken symlink.
[08:38] <AppAraat> hi, I'm having trouble installing lubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso from USB stick onto my EeePC 1001px. Basically, after choosing "Try Lubuntu", it gets stuck here - http://i.imgur.com/aO7tPV0.jpg
[08:38] <AppAraat> I'm not sure whether this is a bug, so I want to ask it here. If it is, I would be happy to create a bug report.
[08:38] <snfgf_> Why can I use mkfs.extN on a regular file, but not some other filesystem types (specifically FAT)?
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: i would try a cleanup with bleachbit, see if it makes any differences and clean your /usr up perhaps
[08:40] <jnor> Hey, how can I test a remote database system for concurrency ? I have tried using siege but it seem pointless: think connectivity become bottleneck with my computer
[08:42] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, seems it can't make the network connection.  disable the network and install.  then run updates
[08:43] <Kurogane> k1l, omg this taking long time..
[08:43] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: https://lwn.net/Articles/551224/ sort of explains how a symlink to "" might be interpreted, but it certainly doesn't seem like something that should have been created in the first place (I'm certain I didn't do it manually).
[08:45] <k1l> Kurogane: yes. you got a lot old kernels and the dkms needs to remove all modules per kernel
[08:46] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: I'll try that. I just tested it with lubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso and that one seemed to have booted up normally.
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: no ppa's or manual .deb installs on wily?
[08:46] <Kurogane> k1l, done, still have old kernel or is normal? http://pastie.org/private/vhtvyhakoxas0sqrrijs6q
[08:47] <k1l> Kurogane: its 3 kernels you got there
[08:47] <k1l> Kurogane: lines starting with rc are not installed
[08:48] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: I ppa-purged the vlc daily builds ppa that I had installed before upgrading.
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: how bout checking df -h on /usr also?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: some threads describe no space on device: ErrorMessage: unable to make backup symlink for `./usr/share/zoneinfo/right/America/Ensenada': No space left on device
[08:50] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: Deleting that nonsensical symlink, as well as /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/libobjc.so which was also a symlink pointing to "" allowed the pacakge to be installed.
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> ah
[08:51] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: I've disabled wifi with the hardware switch (Fn+F2) and it still doesn't seem to go past the “Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes.” bit.
[08:51] <AppAraat> seems like a regression.
[08:52] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, errrrrrrr, wait 1
[08:53] <nikolam> I installed nfs server package on unupdated Xubuntu 14.04.4 LTS 64bit and next time upon restart it fails to boot. I can boot it selecting previous kernel in Grub advanced options
[08:54] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, have you an nvidia graphics?
[08:54] <nikolam> Does really install of one package can lead to unbootable machine (suppose it requires other updated packages that are not updated so it fails to even boot, because nfs server is kernel-based and
[08:55] <nikolam> and I already witnessed (opensuse) machine not being able to run sshd if kernel is updated but not the other packages
[08:56] <nikolam> this seems like linux fate in general, always depending on kernel no matter what?
[08:57] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: I think it's integrated in the N450 Processor - https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Eee_PC_1001PX_Seashell/specifications/
[08:57] <AppAraat> but I don't think it's nVidia
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: can you F1 or textboot to see where its get stuck on boot?
[08:57] <nikolam> it complains on some Btrfs checksum not right and it stops there
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: btrfs is bit experimental
[08:58] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, : suggestion #1, try the !nomodeset boot option   #2 lubuntu
[08:58] <cfhowlett> or ubuntu-mate
[08:58] <AppAraat> will do
[08:58] <nikolam> no it's not. I'ts in production for several years now (redhat, suse etc)
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: and it suffers many bugs
[08:59] <nikolam> no it does not, since it is in production. But I can accept 14.04 's Btrfs may be had more bugs then current one
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: did you try this on a non-btrfs system?
[09:00] <mcphail> nikolam: not seen this before. Does the newer kernel need a newer btrfs-tools package for the user-space side?
[09:02] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: as of now, I've edited out the boot line to not contain `quiet` and `splash` (as well as `--`) and ticked the `nomodereset` menu entry. It seemed to have worked. Thank you. Would this however qualify as a bug?
[09:03] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, I'm inclined to believe is more a matter of ubuntu incompatibility with your legacy hardware but it might be worth a bug report
[09:05] <heni> hi
[09:06] <heni> i need hekp
[09:06] <heni> help
[09:06] <hateball> !help | heni
[09:09] <heni> i installed kali tools with katoolin on ubuntu mate 16, but now i can't update the system also in software store i can't find any software to install and the name of my distro changed to ubuntu mate Kali rolling in place of ubuntu mate 16 please hekp me
[09:09] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: that would be quite disappointing since (as I've come to understand) Lubuntu is meant to work on legacy hardware (to a certain extent, but I would consider operational functionality on a netbook to be inclusive to Lubuntu's original goals).
[09:09] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, as would I.
[09:10] <backbox> how to use aircrack ng
[09:10] <heni> i installed kali tools with katoolin on ubuntu mate 16, but now i can't update the system also in software store i can't find any software to install and the name of my distro changed to ubuntu mate Kali rolling in place of ubuntu mate 16 please hekp me
[09:10] <cfhowlett> heni, you installed an out of OS tools to ubuntu.  not supported
[09:11] <cfhowlett> backbox, aircrack is not an ubuntu product.  see their website for support
[09:11] <cfhowlett> heni, also: http://askubuntu.com/questions/708836/removing-katoolin-from-ubuntu-14-04
[09:11] <heni> what should i do to back to original ubuntu mate 16 ?
[09:11] <cfhowlett> heni, are you reading this??
[09:12] <heni> yes
[09:13] <cfhowlett> http://askubuntu.com/questions/708836/removing-katoolin-from-ubuntu-14-04
[09:13] <Sacryn> ARGH, Warning to all Cacti users, upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 will casue unnecessary load. As Cacti uses bad datetime values not compatible with MySQL 5.7
[09:13] <heni> it doesn't work :/
[09:14] <pat_rick> heni: do you have your home folder on a separate partition?
[09:14] <mcphail> heni: If you have messed up your packages by adding unsupported repositories, the only sure way to restore your system is to reinstall.
[09:14] <pat_rick> if so, reinstalling is trivial and relatively fast
[09:15] <Jordan_U> pat_rick: heni: You can re-install preserving /home/ even if you don't have a separate /home/ partition.
[09:15] <mcphail> heni: The alternative is to manually pick through the changes brought by your foreign repositories, but that is not supported here
[09:15] <heni> yes i installed my distro on separate partition
[09:16] <heni> how to reinstall the distro !
[09:17] <Kurogane> k1l, and remove linux image extra i need to do this? echo $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image-extra | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p') | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge ?
[09:17] <ducasse> heni: back up your data and reinstall
[09:17] <pat_rick> would it help to manually edit sources.list by out-commenting the changes brought by whatever he installed?
[09:17] <k1l> Kurogane: stop
[09:18] <heni> i am new in linux world
[09:18] <k1l> Kurogane: that command removed already all old kernels and headers.
[09:18] <cfhowlett> pat_rick, would not remove the foreign packages
[09:18] <mcphail> pat_rick: that is part of teh process, but installed and conflicting packages also have to be rolled back. That is not an easy process as apt is not deigned to go backwards. Lopts of breakage must then be navigated
[09:18] <k1l> Kurogane: the lines starting with "rc" are not installed. only the lines starting with "ii"
[09:19] <pat_rick> cfhowlett: I know, but maybe he would at list have access to the repos again
[09:19] <Jordan_U> heni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[09:19] <mcphail> pat_rick: as I said, that will not roll back later package versions brought by the foreign repo, nor restore conflicted packages
[09:19] <heni> thank you guys :D
[09:20] <mcphail> pat_rick: the ppa-purge tools tries to automate the process for ppas. It isn't a straightforward process
[09:20] <pat_rick> mcphail: Oh, I know, I have once found out the hard way, when a ppapurge failed ;)
[09:21] <mcphail> indeed
[09:21] <LaserAllan> question, can I have multiple NFS mounts in the same folder?, example "/mnt"
[09:22] <Ben64> LaserAllan: you can have /mnt/a /mnt/b /mnt/c
[09:23] <Sacryn> Anyone here running Cacti under Ubuntu 16.04?
[09:24] <Kurogane> k1l, ok
[09:24] <Kurogane> k1l, i have other problem in other server i have, this the problem http://pastie.org/private/vrvf55ysvq5mphggk9f5w
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Sacryn: best to ask your specific issue to the channel
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> Sacryn: there is also a small #cacti channel if you want
[09:26] <LaserAllan> Ben64: OK, so I have to have a subfolder
[09:26] <LaserAllan> Lemme fix that then^^
[09:27] <k1l> Kurogane: "dpkg -l |grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:27] <LaserAllan> It seems to be the same on most distros, the only thing thas has seemed to differentiate is the nfs package  need to install to able to perform the mounting process
[09:27] <Kurogane> k1l, http://pastie.org/private/ytxr7qhcrtcrh9cdujtga
[09:28] <Sacryn> lotuspsychje: Ah, I'll ask around in there too then =)
[09:28] <Sacryn> lotuspsychje: And the issue is that Cacti on Ubuntu 16.04 has a number of issues with MySQL 5.7. So its not working that great out of the box =(
[09:29] <mcphail> Sacryn: are you using the default Ubuntu package of cacti? If so, you might want to report the bug on launchpad
[09:31] <Sacryn> mcphail: I do, just posted a question regarding the issue on "answers.launchpad.net"
[09:31] <LaserAllan> how do unmount an nfs share?
[09:32] <Ben64> LaserAllan: should be the same as any other mount... "sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint"
[09:32] <k1l> Kurogane: you got several different kernel metapackages installed there. that doesnt make sense
[09:33] <mcphail> Sacryn: probably better to report a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cacti
[09:33] <k1l> Kurogane: "sudo apt purge linux-image-server linux-image-generic-lts-raring"
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[09:34] <hypermist> l0l
[09:34] <hypermist> Heh
[09:34] <LaserAllan> Ben64: Thanks
[09:34] <hypermist> thats a beast of a bot
[09:34] <Venko> What on earth?
[09:34] <dionysus69> wtf is this
[09:35] <Chr1st1an> .
[09:35] <Ben64> some kid is mad, nothing to see here
[09:35] <dionysus69> ye obviously
[09:35] <dionysus69> did he do rm -rf /
[09:35] <Yugidude1> ooo someone pissed off a skiddy
[09:36] <Chr1st1an> Hehe
[09:36] <gardar> and now they are at #debian
[09:36] <gardar> darn script kiddies
[09:38] <GRiZL0C> omg my new logitech mk220 is such a cheap but very compact keyboard mouse combo for my raspberry pi 3
[09:38] <GRiZL0C> i like it very much
[09:40] <scatterp> EriC^^: are you around by any chance?
[09:41] <Yugidude1> I mostly lurk around here out of curiousity is it the first time this skiddy's been here or is he a recurrance
[09:42] <cfhowlett> he and/or his minions have been checking in for the past few months.  let's move on.
[09:42] <Ben64> been happening today
[09:43] <Yugidude1> Ah fun
[09:45] <scatterp> umm so i had a ubuntu install in a mac and the mac died moved it to a hp pro lient g6 rack server EriC^^  helped me get the hd to boot and suddenly it just stopped booting but it does mount ... so i boot up from a livecd to attempt to repair it so i can use vmware converter to export (p2v) to esxi and recover the harddrive back to a new task can any one help ?
[09:50] <gardar> scatterp: how did it stop booting? grub errors?
[09:54] <EriC^^> scatterp: hey
[09:55] <EriC^^> scatterp: i dont know much about what you're currently trying to do
[09:56] <deniljoseph> guys i cant play mp3 or videos it asks to install some kinda plugins
[09:57] <bazhang> deniljoseph, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:58] <deniljoseph> how big is it???? @ bazhang
[09:58] <bazhang> deniljoseph, cannot remember offhand, are you tight on hdd space
[10:02] <deniljoseph> i    m tight on my data plan @ bazhang
[10:02] <_{Tite}_> good morning everyone
[10:02] <bazhang> whats the cap deniljoseph
[10:03] <deniljoseph> pardon
[10:03] <_{Tite}_> anyone could help me with a problem in libvirt when adding a newly created interface to the bridge?
[10:03] <bazhang> what is the capped limit deniljoseph
[10:03] <bazhang> thats called 'cap'
[10:03] <deniljoseph> 2gb per month
[10:04] <bazhang> deniljoseph, you can do a test run on apt, and see how much it wants to pull in
[10:04] <_{Tite}_> btw, which happened after upgrading to 16.04
[10:04] <deniljoseph> may i know how
[10:04] <deniljoseph> i m a noob
[10:05] <bazhang> deniljoseph, are you familiar with idea of a 'dry run'
[10:05] <deniljoseph> nop
[10:05] <roya> I just install ubuntu 16.04, how to I know if it is using wayland?
[10:06] <scatterp> hey EriC^^
[10:06] <bazhang> deniljoseph, most every command has a manual page related to it
[10:06] <bazhang> deniljoseph, this is referred to as the manpage
[10:06] <scatterp> EriC^^: right now my main thing is to make it boot again like before all i did is take the drive out of the machine put it in and now it does not boot again :(4
[10:07] <deniljoseph> i didnt get get u
[10:07] <bazhang> deniljoseph, manual, as in how to use something, like a car has a manual
[10:08] <cfhowlett> the not so polite version of RTFM
[10:08] <EriC^^> scatterp: it should boot, that's odd
[10:08] <EriC^^> scatterp: maybe the connection is loose or something?
[10:09] <bazhang> cfhowlett, thats not helpful at all
[10:09] <scatterp> EriC^^:  no it mounts..
[10:09] <EriC^^> aha
[10:09] <EriC^^> scatterp: maybe it's some bios setting?
[10:09] <EriC^^> you could try to reinstall grub i guess from a live usb
[10:10] <scatterp> dont think so because we went through the bios because we looked and there was no related settings
[10:10] <scatterp> yeah i think reinstall grub might be best
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[10:10] <scatterp> its booted now with a usb
[10:10] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:10] <scatterp> ok one moment
[10:10] <cfhowlett> deniljoseph, apt-get install -s ubuntu-restricted-extras         for the simulation
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[10:13] <denil> can anyone help me change the titles of the os i have installed in the grub menu
[10:13] <scatterp> EriC^^: termbin.com/x8dw
[10:14] <bazhang> denil, did you already do a dry run with apt-get
[10:14] <denil> nah
[10:15] <denil> i dont know the commands and stuff
[10:15] <bazhang> denil, why not
[10:15] <EriC^^> scatterp: um
[10:15] <bazhang> denil, you were Just given the command
[10:15] <EriC^^> scatterp: how'd that happen? it's using a gpt partition table now :D
[10:15] <denil> i installed ubuntu 1 day ago
[10:15] <scatterp> EriC^^: i dont know its like a apple virus or something
[10:16] <denil> which one
[10:16] <EriC^^> scatterp: lol what
[10:16] <bazhang> denil, why do you want to change the grub menu
[10:16] <denil> i didnt find a command
[10:16] <denil> its really weird
[10:16] <EriC^^> scatterp: did you put it on a mac?
[10:16] <denil> bcz windows is named as windows boot manager
[10:16] <hateball> roya: by default ubuntu does not use wayland (didnt see anyone answer you)
[10:16] <scatterp> EriC^^:  no
[10:16] <bazhang> denil, really weird is not a troubleshooting description
[10:16] <denil> i want to make it windows 10
[10:16] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok
[10:16] <_{Tite}_> edit the menuentry lines on /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:17] <EriC^^> scatterp: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[10:17] <scatterp> ok
[10:17] <denil> i cant save aftr editing grub.cfg
[10:18] <_{Tite}_> denil: what are you using to edit ? what editor ?
[10:18] <denil> gedit
[10:18] <EriC^^> the editor of gangsters
[10:19] <_{Tite}_> denil: launch gedit from cmdline with a sudo on front of it
[10:19] <hateball> That's ill advice
[10:19] <scatterp> EriC^^:  done
[10:19] <_{Tite}_> gets the job done ...
[10:19] <hateball> !gksudo
[10:19] <_{Tite}_> nice. good to know
[10:19] <hateball> Also, directly editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg will get your changes overwritten on the next kernel update
[10:20] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, type sudo cgdisk /dev/sda
[10:20] <_{Tite}_> I'm old school I guess
[10:20] <mcphail> _{Tite}_: this has been the case for at least 10 years
[10:20] <_{Tite}_> too old ?
[10:20] <scatterp> ok
[10:21] <EriC^^> scatterp: delete the swap partition
[10:21] <EriC^^> scatterp: this isn't the second hdd you had is it?
[10:21] <scatterp> ok deleting swap
[10:21] <hateball> _{Tite}_, denil: grub.cfg is generated by update-grub, if anything edit the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ to have persistent changes
[10:22] <scatterp> EriC^^:  swap seems to be 3 deleted now
[10:22] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, create a 1mb partition
[10:22] <EriC^^> when it asks for size type "1M"
[10:22] <scatterp> k
[10:23] <EriC^^> for type enter "ef02"
[10:23] <deniljoseph> can some  one tell me how to open gedit via cmd line
[10:23] <Ben64> deniljoseph: "gedit"
[10:23] <_{Tite}_> there you have it denil. use update-grub after editing
[10:23] <scatterp> EriC^^: type ?
[10:23] <EriC^^> deniljoseph: gksu gedit if you need root privileges
[10:23] <scatterp> k
[10:24] <deniljoseph> tx eric lemme give a try
[10:24] <deniljoseph> tx ben
[10:24] <scatterp> EriC^^: 3.8mb bios boot space
[10:24] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, make a swap partition with the rest of the space
[10:24] <EriC^^> type 8200
[10:24] <scatterp> ok
[10:25] <deniljoseph> denil@Denil-HP-Notebook:~$ gksu gedit The program 'gksu' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu
[10:25] <deniljoseph> this is what i get
[10:25] <EriC^^> deniljoseph: install gksu
[10:26] <deniljoseph> denil@Denil-HP-Notebook:~$ sudo apt-get install gksu Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package gksu denil@Denil-HP-Notebook:~$
[10:26] <deniljoseph> :|
[10:26] <scatterp> EriC^^:  done
[10:27] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, type sudo partprobe
[10:27] <hateball> EriC^^, deniljoseph it's in universe, maybe that repo isnt enabled
[10:27] <EriC^^> scatterp: write the changes and exit first
[10:27] <hateball> !universe
[10:27] <scatterp> ok
[10:27] <EriC^^> deniljoseph: type sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update
[10:29] <deniljoseph> hw many packages eric
[10:29] <deniljoseph> i m short on my data plan
[10:29] <EriC^^> ?
[10:29] <EriC^^> it's just the package list
[10:30] <deniljoseph> i ran the cmd in the terminal
[10:30] <scatterp> EriC^^:  done
[10:30] <deniljoseph> its downloading smthng'
[10:30] <_{Tite}_> I'd suggest also installing grub-customizer, you are going to be better off
[10:30] <bazhang> deniljoseph, its a few kb at most
[10:30] <bazhang> deniljoseph, this is just the beginning of the month
[10:31] <deniljoseph> 18.3MB
[10:31] <EriC^^> scatterp: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:31] <deniljoseph> whats next
[10:32] <scatterp> ok
[10:32] <_{Tite}_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
[10:32] <_{Tite}_> that'd be my suggestion
[10:32] <scatterp> EriC^^: termbin. com/hsq1
[10:32] <_{Tite}_> https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[10:33] <deniljoseph> gksu installed
[10:35] <scatterp> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/hsq1
[10:36] <EriC^^> scatterp: type sudo mkswap /dev/sda4
[10:37] <scatterp> EriC^^:  done
[10:37] <hateball> EriC^^: what was the utility to push efi firmware directly from ubuntu? supposed to be in 16.04
[10:37] <EriC^^> scatterp: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[10:37] <EriC^^> hateball: i think it's the fwupx64.efi in /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu
[10:38] <hateball> EriC^^: cheers
[10:41] <deniljoseph> used the grub customiser and changed the name shall i reboot and see or is there something i should enter in the terminal again
[10:41] <deniljoseph> ??
[10:41] <scatterp> EriC^^:  didnt work
[10:41] <_{Tite}_> deniljoseph: try it. I'd think the customizer would run the update-grub
[10:42] <scatterp> EriC^^:  i think at the end should be /mnt $i; done
[10:42] <scatterp> EriC^^:  ahh i missed the i
[10:42] <deniljoseph> can i set a custom bg image??
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[10:42] <scatterp> EriC^^:  ok done
[10:42] <kernel_mutex> what the _____ ?
[10:42] <EriC^^> scatterp: type sudo chroot /mnt
[10:43] <scatterp> ok
[10:43] <scatterp> done
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[10:43] <deniljoseph> will there a problem if i set a custom bg image in grub using grub customizer
[10:43] <scatterp> EriC^^:  ls /home looks correct
[10:43] <msev-> dang so much trolls
[10:43] <Hollusionist> wtf is wrong with this guy?
[10:43] <jaywink> script kiddies <3
[10:44] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[10:44] <r__n> jaywink: presumably they'd be using *scripts* rather than doing it manually
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Hollusionist, just ignore him.  if you engage, you give him the attention he craves so much.
[10:45] <deniljoseph>  will there a problem if i set a custom bg image in grub using grub customizer
[10:45] <r__n> will there be a problem?
[10:45] <scatterp> EriC^^:  finished no errors
[10:45] <r__n> why would there
[10:45] <scatterp> EriC^^:  exit and reboot ?
[10:45] <EriC^^> scatterp: not yet
[10:45] <Nilesh_> What's the noise?
[10:46] <scatterp> EriC^^:  ok
[10:46] <EriC^^> scatterp: type blkid
[10:46] <scatterp> EriC^^:  ok
[10:46] <deniljoseph> idk r__n
[10:46] <EriC^^> scatterp: and in another terminal type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab
[10:46] <deniljoseph> lemme try
[10:46] <deniljoseph> brb
[10:46] <EriC^^> scatterp: make sure the uuid for the ext4 matches, and also remove the comment for swap and put the new uuid in for swap
[10:47] <scatterp> EriC^^: termbin.com/d5tc
[10:47] <scatterp> ok
[10:53] <scatterp> EriC^^: done
[10:54] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[10:55] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[10:56] <scatterp> EriC^^: done
[10:56] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, exit the chroot and try restarting
[10:56] <scatterp> ok]
[11:01] <scatterp> EriC^^:  non system disk or disk error
[11:01] <zetheroo> when I open gthumb or System Settings there is a noticeable lag for a few seconds before those things open - the mouse is unresponsive for instance
[11:02] <msev-> so i compiled some program -> espeak-ng, how do i now make it run from the command line with espeak-ng command :)
[11:02] <geg553> hello
[11:02] <msev-> since now command is not found
[11:02] <EriC^^> scatterp: odd
[11:03] <geg553> I keep getting /etc/cron.daily/ntpdate exited with return code 1 -- what exit code should these scripts have?
[11:04] <scatterp> EriC^^:  reboot from the stick ?
[11:08] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, press e in the grub menu of the live usb
[11:08] <EriC^^> we can try to boot it maybe
[11:09] <scatterp> ok
[11:11] <scatterp> EriC^^:  boot error..
[11:13] <paganity> FREENODE STAFF ARE REALLY BAD AT THIS JOB. rilleh kirkland onnz423 ejnahc zymurgy andi weltall sv-- MrXXIV bpeak Guest59233 nymony SunTsu slicepaperwords blazeme8 Mob magento_rocks tombtc RobShad cragdor axisys i90rr wyggler2 bildramer derFlo Pap00se lmat neuro_sys Quatroking copec fiete vic_thor oxsyn blacknred0 mudo baboon`- Phaiax ^peter^ walterwoj VoidWhisperer
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[11:13] <paganity> FREENODE STAFF HAVE NO STAKE IN THE FOSS COMMUNITY THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL LIKE FASCISTS. Fleet ubergoose genpaku Guest64868 labrador lankanmon lassegs d3vlin_ Klumben topi` fractal blinky42 edaught__ farid_ cigumo lolmac mikhael_k33hl blacknred0 Piper-Off isp_ Ballzak NDPTAL85 sebbu AciD` masquerade Mathisen herb Josh4all jhutchins DeMiNe0 ircuser-1 loa cyboman33 GrisKo duckydan rxc abra0 SharkMa-san PlasmaStar jhunt_
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[11:13] <EriC^^> scatterp: from live usb?
[11:13] <fayeta> FREENODE STAFF HAVE NO STAKE IN THE FOSS COMMUNITY THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL LIKE FASCISTS. chu sdk keithzg jwash tomaw matteo zero_coder masquerade iMiiTH dANOKELOFF_ ross` alicef_off rilleh skapunker sjoos pankid supergauntlet obli-AWAY Yugidude1 arlen mgor percY- weltzooo Walex geheimnis` Sven_vB betsy_S foo zopsi beisner ochiottes erth64net yock habith beetee jswagner watersoul Tegu Andreas33 vifino
[11:13] <fayeta> SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. huayra jelly mufy Obiwantje pmatulis Rondom duckydan bildramer drakekr Urbany hateball PeterReid jcastro phschwartz varikonniemi cubic2 ShutterBC sipior drmagoo Dewin dbdii407 xamindar cherry_lin Sean_Wang Crackpotmark Gloomy Spilotro pedrocr skule yeticry effectnet techWARlrus netameta adeschamps megabitdragon mehdi_ inteus emid DefectiveUser gstepanov
[11:13] <fayeta> STAFFER 'uptime' CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSE BY SUPERIORS OR WE CAN HAVE THESE MESSAGES, YOUR CHOICE FREEEEEENODE HEHEHE andril l4m8d4 lolmac jgrasser Hellosun leachim6 blipz lift Ladon arnotixe braderhart gsf FierceDeityLink jgrevich_ sigkell_ WarHitex_ soee edenist dgncn vp0 d3vlin_ raub Driiper Elimin8er MrGeneral stooj unsetnick Shimpu___007 tardybaker catbeard HalfEatenPie mattwithoos alexbligh1 pdugas chachasmooth mniip djmentos doomlord_ chand
[11:13] <fayeta> FOSS PROJECTS _REALLY_ NEED TO FIND A BETTER NETWORK TO FAIRLY SUPPORT THEIR USERS. Laogeodritt zol nkhoit ChristiQs DavidFromBE kalexyco giraffe pistolpete al2o3-cr todd_dsm Pavel499 pmatulis sv-- auditlog_ garnus Dr_lecter styles styles_ hackeron daed croepha seyeongkim tgm4883 BadDream zkanda john341 LockeAnarchist jirido cristian_c neoark fginther chrisml rypervenche Navid AppAraat nnnn20430 Valfor penguinguru icey vp1
[11:13] <fayeta> FOSS PROJECTS _REALLY_ NEED TO FIND A BETTER NETWORK TO FAIRLY SUPPORT THEIR USERS. AdamAntium27 moat_joe erth64net ofdm- Pap00se bleomycin jswagner Rame Shaun__ neunon Loshki Hellosun weezel RiPer jaywink Mcl0vin madwizard screedo paresh terratoma ejnahc mudo cocoa117 awallin__ clownfuzzy1 spjt sfunk1x xcor avdi TecnoBrat meaning AbyssOne unsetnick comgot mcphail vox gertS Afforess Ububegin chiluk
[11:13] <neunon> *sigh*
[11:13] <scatterp> EriC^^: yeah from live usb
[11:13] <Valfor> yeah no
[11:14] <paresh> ayyy
[11:14]  * vCra gets pissed off
[11:15] <lilstevie> ugh
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: your famous!
[11:16] <scatterp> EriC^^: shall i start it up from live usb
[11:16] <sausiber> hello friend.
[11:16] <EriC^^> scatterp: only get to grub from there
[11:17] <sausiber> We're presenting right now in somewhere in the world
[11:17] <sausiber> say hello.
[11:17] <sausiber> live version :P
[11:17] <scatterp> ok
[11:19] <scatterp> EriC^^: ok booted
[11:19] <EriC^^> scatterp: grub?
[11:19] <scatterp> EriC^^: from live usb
[11:19] <nikolam> same thing happened to me again. I installed nfs-server and I can't boot normally after that. I also have zfs kernel modules installed, don't know if it is related
[11:20] <EriC^^> scatterp: oh
[11:20] <EriC^^> scatterp: there's not really much we can do i think
[11:20] <nikolam> i think it could be related to that
[11:20] <EriC^^> scatterp: the partition table is gpt, and there's a bios boot which is required for legacy
[11:20] <GRiZL0C> i am so happy i found the way to disable overscan on my raspberry pi 3 no more black bars for me :)
[11:21] <EriC^^> scatterp: no idea why the bios won't boot it if you're sure nothing else has changed
[11:22] <EriC^^> scatterp: the only difference is that it was msdos partition table before (you could convert back btw)
[11:22] <nikolam> if single line in /etc/fstab is not ok, it won't boot. I remember that same thing from severeal ubntu edditions ago
[11:23] <scatterp> EriC^^:  what about if i produce a boot-repair report
[11:23] <GRiZL0C> this is my 3rd day with linux as i am a windows user i have 2 rpi 3's which one has raspbian and other one is ubuntu mate i really have fun learning ubuntu mate and raspbian
[11:23] <EriC^^> scatterp: give it a shot i guess
[11:24] <EriC^^> scatterp: partition table types don't change though
[11:24] <EriC^^> scatterp: there's something missing here..
[11:25] <deniljoseph> please help me install plugin to play mp3 and videos
[11:25] <deniljoseph> please tell me the procedures
[11:25] <mgor> deniljoseph, check step 4 at http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[11:26] <vladimir-sn> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[11:26] <vladimir-sn> hah
[11:26] <vladimir-sn> seems like google is the only answer :)
[11:27] <deniljoseph> i m on ubuntu 14.04
[11:27] <geg553> vladimir-sn: google is always the answer, don't be disrespectful
[11:27] <deniljoseph> providing me with an link of 16.04 is useless
[11:28] <mgor> deniljoseph, not saying which release you are running is like asking how long the rope is
[11:28] <mgor> deniljoseph, check step 3 at http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04
[11:28] <deniljoseph> hmm my mistake anyway
[11:28] <scatterp> EriC^^:  i may lose internet for a moment shortly got a team installing fiber optics
[11:29] <scatterp> EriC^^:  so as soon as i can get in the room ill make that report ..
[11:29] <EriC^^> ok
[11:29] <mcphail> deniljoseph: your question has already been answered. What has changed since you asked it earlier?
[11:29] <deniljoseph> how big is the multimedia codecs
[11:29] <deniljoseph> ?
[11:29] <deniljoseph> mcphail i couldnt install
[11:30] <deniljoseph> i keep on losing connectivity any i m out of my data plan
[11:30] <cfhowlett> deniljoseph, you keep repeating questions that have been answered.  very demotivating
[11:30] <deniljoseph> i m sorry
[11:31] <mcphail> deniljoseph: then you should not be expecting to be able to download a set of codecs. I cannot see how we can help you with your data plan
[11:32] <cfhowlett> make a note deniljoseph: apt-get install -s PACKAGENAME will simulate an installation and provide useful information.  after you load up your data plan, try it.
[11:33] <deniljoseph> may i know how big is it??
[11:33] <deniljoseph> tx cfhowlett
[11:33] <cfhowlett> I JUST told you how to find out for yourself.
[11:34] <ducasse> deniljoseph: there are several packages, a few meg combined
[11:34] <deniljoseph> yup gotcha
[11:34] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[11:34] <deniljoseph> btw the restricted extras is of 59mb
[11:34] <deniljoseph> actually do these come in the iso file??
[11:35] <cfhowlett> they do not
[11:35] <deniljoseph> hmmm tx anyway
[11:35] <k1l> deniljoseph: they are not allowed from the licence
[11:36] <deniljoseph> what you mean   k1l  didnt get u
[11:38] <k1l> deniljoseph: the codecs are restricted by their licenses. most of them are not allowed to be installed by the OS on install. so the user needs to load them after install.
[11:39] <deniljoseph> ohh tx for the info k1l
[11:40] <erkan^> who calls me ???
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> erkan^: it was spam, dont mind it
[11:46] <erkan^> ah ok, lotuspsychje
[11:52] <wuschLOR> hi little ssh question. somehow I allways have to select the specific interface like %wlan2. How can i set it to all interfaces (writing my ssh config and my laptop is sometimes connected with ethernet and sometimes wifi)
[11:53] <Guest95615> will i be able to watch 1080p mkv without stuttering and edit small video clips on HP Stream 13 with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS? Or am I pushing it?
[11:53] <denil> ubuntu software center got stuck while installing unrestricted codecs
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> Guest95615: what graphics card inside?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> depends on your hardware but ... why are you asking?  go to youtube
[11:55] <Guest95615> lotuspsychje: it is "Intel HD Graphics" according to http://www.elkjop.no/product/data/barbar-pc/HP13C102NO/hp-stream-13-c102no-13-3-barbar-pc-bla#tab-specs (Norwegian site, but specs are listed at the bottom.)
[11:57] <Philonous> I have a new device in my network with a different subnet (ip is 192.168.0.254), to reach it I added a new ip address (ip addr add 192.168.0.80/24 dev br0) and added a route (ip route add 192.168.0.0/24 dev br0) and yet I can't reach the device (ping says "Destination Host Unreachable"), what am I missing?
[11:57] <hateball> Guest95615: You should be fine
[11:58] <scatterp> EriC^^: back sorry lost connection a moment
[11:58] <scatterp> EriC^^: ok boot-report is done let me go get the url
[12:00] <scatterp> EriC^^: http://paste2.org/741Zc0Bn
[12:04] <scatterp> can any one help me with this paste2.org/741Zc0Bn i am unable to boot from grub which is a requirement in order to use vmware converter p2v to move it to a virtual pc ...
[12:04] <ali_> guys any tutorial or guides to be expert in linux from scratch? (from beginner to advanced?)
[12:05] <TheHackOps> Anyone ever seen an issue where some time after installing ubuntu tweak your desktop goes black but the O/S still works as normal (Unity launcher still working everything else still fine)
[12:05] <TheHackOps> No icons are visible on the desktop itself
[12:07] <EriC^^> scatterp: 1 sec
[12:07] <scatterp> EriC^^:  sure i go to smoke
[12:09] <yogesh> did u guys know " BIG DATA" ??
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:12] <[976497]A> While trying to send files via SFTP (between 2 machines with Ubuntu 14.14, amazon AWS on Files 3.10.1) I received a message: "Invalid reply received". How to fix it, plz?
[12:12] <Guest43913> ciao a tutt
[12:12] <Guest43913> !list
[12:12] <nikolam> New LTS haven't be pushed to existing LTS as an update?
[12:13] <auronandace> !ltsupgrade | nikolam
[12:14] <nikolam> that is smart. But I think I will update now to see how it is doing (I made my Btrfs snapshot so I can go back to 14.04)
[12:14] <nikolam> I suppose dist-upgrade would do the trick
[12:14] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | nikol
[12:14] <GRiZL0C> anybody here on a raspberry pi 3 running ubuntu mate like me?
[12:15] <nikolam> !upgrade
[12:17] <auronandace> nikolam: you can boot 16.04 and run the installer, it will detect 15.10 and you can choose to upgrade from there
[12:17] <cfhowlett> GRiZL0C, avoid wasting time and bandwidth with "anyone?" questions.  state YOUR problem for results
[12:18] <nikolam> ah I understand, so only update form 15.10 ATM, one wanting to try it out, would need to update 14.04>15.04>15.10>16.04 to get it right
[12:18] <nikolam> (and 14.10 somewhere list in there) :P
[12:19] <auronandace> nikolam: no, you can do LTS to LTS directly, just wait for the .1 release
[12:19] <SwedeMike> nikolam: I went 14.04->16.04 direct. I had to specify -d for do-release-upgrade or whatever the cli command is called
[12:19] <nikolam> ah I know but I want to try it out before it comes out :P
[12:19] <nikolam> ah nice SwedeMike
[12:19] <auronandace> SwedeMike: the -d flag is for development, which would now likely get you 16.10
[12:20] <SwedeMike> auronandace: true, 16.10 wasn't available when I did that.
[12:20] <scatterp> EriC^^: back
[12:20] <SwedeMike> auronandace: but 14.04->16.10 will never be allowed, does -d even offer that?
[12:20] <Abe_> hello
[12:20] <nikolam> auronandace, so if I don't want to wait for .1 I can do 15.10>16.04
[12:21] <EriC^^> scatterp: it looks pretty ok
[12:21] <scatterp> EriC^^: yeah :/
[12:21] <bishop> slowly learning linux
[12:21] <bishop> god
[12:21] <GRiZL0C> me too learning linux
[12:21] <auronandace> nikolam: i'm not sure about 15.10 to 16.04 with do-release-upgrade, i did it by booting and selecting upgrade in the installer
[12:21] <nikolam> bishop, linux is a kernel, it's all gnu.userland for else :P
[12:22] <nikolam> ah ok auronandace
[12:22] <scatterp> EriC^^:  is there a way to boot from the usb then in grub mount the drive and boot from it ?
[12:22] <Abe_> I am burning 16.04 with brasero... it seems that it stuck at "Creating Image Checksum" for about 10 minutes now. will it ruin the dvd if I click cancel?
[12:22] <scatterp> EriC^^:  like the drive is just used for grub
[12:22] <scatterp> Abe_:  yes
[12:22] <nikolam> If I update to 16.04 from downloaded media, it must use that :P
[12:22] <scatterp> Abe_:  i would imagine so
[12:22] <AppAraat> Abe_: why not avoid DVD in the first place and just drop the image on a USB stick?
[12:22] <AppAraat> much faster that way
[12:22] <nikolam> (if network is disabled)
[12:23] <Abe_> I don't have a good usb stick that i could make bootable
[12:23] <AppAraat> ah hmm
[12:23] <BluesKaj> do-release-upgrade should work as long the the upgrade manager is set to new  releases. or is that relevant in ubuntu?
[12:24] <Abe_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/170065/writing-file-to-cd-dvd-process this tells me it won't affect the quality of the DVD
[12:24] <TheHackOps> Anyone here use teamviewer daemon
[12:24] <Abe_> is that true. I don't want to click cancel until it gives me error or something
[12:25] <Abe_> but it doesn't seem to continue :/
[12:25] <Abe_> ?
[12:25] <EriC^^> scatterp: the problem is that legacy grub has a try ubuntu kind of thing that you can't press e over to edit
[12:26] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: funny thing is that xubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso boots up too without any hassle :p
[12:26] <AppAraat> so it's a Lubuntu thing it seems
[12:26] <EriC^^> scatterp: you could press f6 or something to edit the quiet splash line, if you press ";" there you can add other lines to it, but even if you do boot it grub is already installed
[12:27] <EriC^^> scatterp: do you have any idea how you removed the hdd and plugged it back in and it switched to gpt?
[12:27] <scatterp> EriC^^:  nope
[12:27] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, well, xubuntu IS optimized for older and lower specification hardware ...
[12:27] <scatterp> EriC^^:  i think the whole problem is the gpt it needs some how to be switched to non gpt
[12:27] <AppAraat> yep, but Lubuntu is too right?
[12:28] <Josh4all> Well, I think Ubuntu Mate is better than XUbuntu now :P
[12:28] <cfhowlett> indeed
[12:28] <Abe_> i have to hit cancel, it's not finishing it
[12:29] <Hiro`> Ubuntu has suddenly started telling me, in a weird robotic voice, what navigation commands I'm entering. It's very annoying. Can anyone tell me how to switch it off?
[12:29] <KeyboardNotFound> Is there any public statistics for how many people use ubuntu and other ubuntu distros?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> KeyboardNotFound, no reliable statistics ... informed guesses
[12:29] <nikolam> Miron, you sure it's ubuntu and not some web page/app?
[12:30] <Miron> ?
[12:30] <EriC^^> scatterp: you can convert it back, do you have everything backed up though?
[12:30] <Abe_> It gave me an "Image successfully burned to DVD" hopefully it didn't ruin the dvd... buggy sh*t
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Hiro`, you turned on the accessiblitity options
[12:30] <nikolam> sorry Miron , it was ment Hiro`
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[12:30] <scatterp> EriC^^:  i tried to backup the end result was a 80gb file full of 0s
[12:30] <auronandace> Abe_: i've always prefered xfburn compared to brsero
[12:30] <vCra> KeyboardNotFound: Distrowatch has page hits if you want a general idea
[12:31] <EriC^^> scatterp: how did you try to backup?
[12:31] <scatterp> EriC^^:  the idea is that if it boots then i can use vmware converter to ssh in and it will take imediately a clone of the whole machine and its done
[12:31] <scatterp> EriC^^: dd
[12:31] <frdmn> wtf happened here
[12:31] <scatterp> EriC^^:  wait not dd one moment
[12:31] <adac> wondring how can I allow an ip range via ufw? I.e. like whitelist 172.18.0.*
[12:32] <Josh4all> Is it possible to burn a DVD-RW into "CD" format and damage it?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> frdmn, no need for such language.  also not permitted
[12:32] <Abe_> auronandace: It shouldn't be buggy "at all"
[12:32] <scatterp> EriC^^: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/geoffreyanderson/1004950/raw/955472ca0d20808f57662caa417208d803fa5c0e/syncFilesystemToImage.sh i edited drive size
[12:32] <KeyboardNotFound> vCra, thanks I found that website
[12:32] <Hiro`> cfhowlett: thanks. how do I turn them off?
[12:33] <scatterp> EriC^^:  we did the gpt change last time with out any troubles
[12:33] <auronandace> Josh4all: not sure what you mean, a dvd image would be too big for a CD
[12:33] <EriC^^> scatterp: last time we just zapped the stray gpt data
[12:33] <scatterp> EriC^^: wouldnt that work again ?
[12:33] <scatterp> theoretically
[12:34] <auronandace> Josh4all: you can burn a CD image to a DVD but it seems quite a waste to me
[12:34] <EriC^^> scatterp: now you need to use gdisk to convert gpt to mbr
[12:34] <scatterp> ok
[12:34] <cfhowlett> settings > accessibility > disable assistive technologies
[12:34] <EriC^^> scatterp: it's fairly easy, takes 1 sec
[12:34] <EriC^^> scatterp: but i guess it's more risky cause stuff is being written not just partition stuff being removed, it's up to you
[12:34] <scottder> Greetings all, I am having an issue opn a single host where apt-get update is causing a core dump. it get's most of the way through "Reading package lists" then fails
[12:35] <Josh4all> auronandace: hmm... I guess what I mean is to burn CD image to a DVD, and then the disc is unable to use any more
[12:35] <scottder> 14.04
[12:35] <Josh4all> I don't know how to get it work again, so I throw it away
[12:35] <auronandace> Josh4all: if it is a dvdrw then you can simply blank it again for reuse
[12:36] <scatterp> EriC^^: lets try
[12:36] <Josh4all> lol, the dvd-rw cannot be recognized tho
[12:36] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, boot the live usb, get the disk name from parted -l
[12:37] <scatterp> ok done
[12:37] <EriC^^> then sudo gdisk /dev/sda , press r
[12:38] <auronandace> Josh4all: it won't be picked up as a blank disk obviously, but you should be able to blank it after you insert it and use whatever image writing software you like
[12:38] <EriC^^> then press g
[12:38] <ali_> what torrent client works good with ubuntu?
[12:38] <scatterp> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/9d7j
[12:38] <scatterp> ok
[12:38] <auronandace> ali_: transmission is there by default
[12:38] <ali_> ok thanks
[12:38] <cfhowlett> transmission is the default, ali_
[12:39] <ali_> thanks cfhowlett
[12:39] <Josh4all> auronandace: Well, the next time I inserted it into my burner, it shows I have no DVD-RW inserted at all
[12:39] <scatterp> EriC^^:  done
[12:39] <Josh4all> This is really wierd...
[12:39] <scottder> Here is the syslog message I get with the seg fault apt-get[16167]: segfault at ffffffffffffffff ip 00007fd2875b2ccb sp 00007ffeb78c94b0 error 5 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7fd28755c000+145000]
[12:40] <vCra> ali_: I personally use qBittorrent but its personal preference really - It seems more feature rich than transmission for me personally
[12:40] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, type sudo partprobe
[12:40] <EriC^^> scatterp: mount the main partition
[12:40] <scatterp> EriC^^: im still in that app
[12:40] <centr> help
[12:40] <EriC^^> scatterp: oh, press q
[12:40] <scatterp> EriC^^: should i do w to write changes
[12:41] <EriC^^> scatterp: yeah
[12:41] <scatterp> EriC^^:  ok so w , q , partprobe , and mount it
[12:41] <EriC^^> yup
[12:43] <scatterp> EriC^^: ok done data is there should i try maybe boot-repair maybe it can fix it now ?
[12:43] <EriC^^> no
[12:44] <scatterp> ok
[12:44] <scatterp> EriC^^: ok next ?
[12:44] <EriC^^> scatterp: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[12:44] <Josh4all> W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
[12:44] <Josh4all> 1397BC53640DB551
[12:44] <Josh4all> Anyone experience this error in Ubuntu?
[12:45] <Josh4all> I mean the Google Chrome Repository
[12:47] <Admin7762Frd> hey guys. good day
[12:47] <soupnanodesukar> Has anyone else running qemu been getting this error in dmesg and random vm crashing? "vfio-pci 0000:07:00.0: irq bypass producer (token ffff88030d45a540) registration fails: -22"
[12:48] <soupnanodesukar> Or is it just me?
[12:48] <Admin7762Frd> trying to run ffmpeg with vdpau.... i am getting this error >>> Cannot open the X11 display .
[12:48] <Admin7762Frd> VDPAU init failed for stream #0:0.
[12:48] <Admin7762Frd> vdpau hwaccel requested for input stream #0:0, but cannot be initialized.
[12:48] <Admin7762Frd> anyone know what i could be missing
[12:48] <scatterp> done
[12:48] <soupnanodesukar> Admin7762Frd: have you tried mpv?
[12:48] <scatterp> EriC^^: done
[12:48] <EriC^^> scatterp: sudo chroot /mnt
[12:49] <scatterp> EriC^^: done
[12:49] <EriC^^> scatterp: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[12:50] <scatterp> EriC^^: done
[12:51] <EriC^^> scatterp: update-grub
[12:51] <scatterp> EriC^^: done
[12:51] <Admin7762Frd> scrath that.. i figured it out :)
[12:51] <computer> guys, what is wrong with the ubuntu 16.04 software centre? many programs are missing... what happened?
[12:51] <scottder> I found the solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1445436/comments/25
[12:53] <k1l> computer: in 16.04 they changed from the own software center to the gnome software center.
[12:53] <computer> k1l: why? and WHY???
[12:53] <EriC^^> scatterp: ok, exit the chroot and try rebooting
[12:53] <EriC^^> ill brb
[12:54] <yahn> computer, because the Ubuntu Software center was old/slow etc. and they didn't want to support it for another 5 years with the release of Ubuntu 16.04
[12:55] <k1l> computer: well. a lot of users complain ubuntu doing their own projects. and when they switch back its not right, too :/
[12:56] <cfhowlett> things change.  even OS.  We adapt.
[12:57] <Josh4all> how do you guys think of NodeOS?
[12:57] <Josh4all> Another toy after JNode and PythonOS?
[12:57] <k1l> Josh4all: better talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[12:57] <dannymichel> I really cant stand the notifications my IRCCloud app makes. I mean, i do want notifications, but not in the middle of my screen. Is this something I can control? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BoDvHbKx/notifications
[12:58] <cfhowlett> Josh4all, not ubuntu.  please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thank you.
[12:58] <Josh4all> oh, ok, sry
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | dannymichel
[13:00] <scatterp> EriC^^:  didnt boot ...
[13:00] <Pici> dannymichel: I think thats something you'd need to speak to the IRCCloud people about
[13:00] <dannymichel> Ok cool
[13:00] <scatterp> EriC^^: im back in live usb
[13:00] <dannymichel> Thanks
[13:01] <scatterp> EriC^^: shall i try boot-repair ?
[13:02] <EriC^^> scatterp: what's it say when it doesn't boot
[13:03]  * BluesKaj wonders why boot repair will boot into failsafe mode only, unless there's a newer version
[13:04] <scatterp> EriC^^:  i cant remember the message but its something like no bootable drive found ... same message i always see there
[13:06] <Hiro`> cfhowlett: thanks :)
[13:07] <Abe_> and that was the second dvd... f* crashed... this time k3b... is their anything that works... dammit those Dvd's were expensive
[13:07] <hateball> Josh4all: as for the chrome stuff, google arent signing their repos properly
[13:08] <Josh4all> should i wait or let it be hate?
[13:08] <donzo> bonjour
[13:08] <Abe_> I bought memorex dvd's.. their are fresh I only have a couple left... linux sucks
[13:09] <yahn> Abe_, what are you trying to do?
[13:09] <Abe_> I am burning 16.04 and it always crashed, I used brasero, I used K3b now, I only have a few left
[13:10] <Abe_> No I don't have USB stick
[13:10] <Josh4all> yeah, k3b is better :)
[13:10] <yahn> Abe_, k3b works a treat so you should be OK
[13:10] <Abe_> well it crashed
[13:11] <yahn> both k3b and brasero both crash when you attempt to burn the ISO to disc?
[13:11] <k1l> Abe_: did you check the md5sum from the iso after download?
[13:11] <hateball> Josh4all: wait. see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Apt/Sha1Removal
[13:11] <Abe_> it's not my burner this things works.. are those cheap ass free programs.
[13:11] <Abe_> YES i Did md5sum check
[13:12] <donzo> quelqu'un peut m'aider à migrer vers la nouvelle version de ubuntu mate ?
[13:12] <Abe_> it matched I compared them
[13:13] <zykotick9> !fr | donzo
[13:13] <yahn> Abe_, if you attempt to run k3b/brasero from the command line and try to burn the ISO do any error messages come up?
[13:14] <Abe_> I refuse doing that. it should work... wish I had windows right now
[13:14] <yahn> Abe_, do you have a rooted Android phone? If so, you can use this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid&hl=en
[13:15] <Abe_> no
[13:15] <yahn> but that's kind of going beyond the scope of #ubuntu
[13:16] <donzo> merci yahn
[13:16] <yahn> donzo, I'm not sure what I've done but no problem :)
[13:17] <Abe_> need to open a terminal for every little thing i do
[13:19] <ogra_> Abe_, better ask your money back then, I'm sure he developers of k3b and brasero will refund every cent you paid for their software
[13:19] <Abe_> sorry i'm using ubuntu for about 3 years now but just gives me a headache right now
[13:20] <shekhar> Why do the .sh files are not opened directly through terminal(when i double click it) though i changes the properties of the file
[13:20] <Abe_> afraid putting another dvd in there
[13:20] <yahn> shekhar, are you running them with the 'sh' command?
[13:21] <yahn> ie './sh coolprogram.sh'
[13:21] <Abe_> I go to a friend he has windows i burn it there
[13:21] <Josh4all> hateball: ty, so I can't fix it myself? ( need to reboot my computer now... )
[13:21] <shekhar> yahn:  ./ filename.sh ?? is this that what you are intend me to do ?
[13:21] <yahn> shekhar, just as I posted it above
[13:22] <zykotick9> shekhar: <sidenote> yahn's "./sh coolprogram.sh" doesn't make sense...
[13:22] <yahn> shekhar, sorry I meant sh ./coolprogram.sh
[13:22] <yahn> apologies
[13:23] <shekhar> yahn:  I can run the file with the command but i want to do it runnable with a click
[13:23] <shekhar> yahn:  we make mistakes , no problem
[13:24] <yahn> shekhar, right click on the .sh file in your file manager, navigate to 'Permissions' and check the box 'Allow executing file as a program'
[13:25] <yahn> when you double click it next time you should have an option to Run in Terminal, Display, Cancel or Run
[13:25] <shekhar> yahn:  I have done that but still I am unable to get it
[13:25] <SwedeMike> ml
[13:26] <yahn> shekhar, have you run 'chmod +x coolprogram.sh' first?
[13:26] <shekhar> No!!
[13:26] <shekhar> yahn: ^^
[13:26] <yahn> let me know if it works :)
[13:27] <effectnet> firefox stopped responding, how do i close it
[13:28] <AppAraat> Protip during installation: Just because I'm in a different country, it doesn't mean all of my locale has to change to that country's as well.
[13:28] <wubble> effectnet: run xkill in a terminal then click on it
[13:28] <DolphinDream> howdy
[13:28] <DolphinDream> where is ubuntu storing the menu application entires ?
[13:28] <DolphinDream> what file ?
[13:29] <doev> Hi. I try to start an old application that runs without problems on old ubuntu versions. My current Ubuntu version is 14.04. The application need to have opencl installed.
[13:29] <shekhar> yahn: I ran the command on terminal but there isn't anything happening there
[13:30] <doev> How can I test if opencl is installed correctly on 14.04?
[13:30] <yahn> effectnet, you can also open System Monitor (search in the dash), find Firefox -> right click and then select 'Kill'
[13:30] <yahn> shekhar, it won't give you any feedback in the terminal when you run that command
[13:30] <yahn> shekhar, has it made a difference to you being able to double click on the file and run it?
[13:31] <shekhar> yahn:  No
[13:32] <yahn> shekhar, may I ask what program it is?
[13:32] <shekhar> yahn: still i am unable get the desired result
[13:32] <shekhar> yahn:  Tomacat and the it is startup.sh file
[13:33] <shekhar> *typos sorry yahn
[13:33] <yahn> apache tomcat?
[13:33] <shekhar> yes yahn
[13:33] <OerHeks> DolphinDream, in /usr/share somewhere, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[13:34] <Myrtti> DolphinDream: /usr/share/applications/ and .local/share/applications/
[13:37] <yahn> shekhar, I see what you mean
[13:40] <shekhar> yahn:  did you get a solution to this?
[13:40] <yahn> shekhar, I don't have any experience with tomcat myself but if your goal is to run it automatically at start then this might help:
[13:41] <yahn> https://www.mulesoft.com/tcat/tomcat-start
[13:41] <DolphinDream> thx OerHeks Myrtti
[13:42] <shekhar> yahn:  ok cool thanks for your help
[13:50] <Abe_> k I used my old ass computer with lubuntu on it.. used xfburn and luckly it finished the burning process... well the program crashed after finishing but at least I have it now... ok need 2 more
[13:53] <django_> hey
[13:55] <Abe_> I think the burner on my old pc is better
[13:56] <curlyears> bitchx make command is looking for bash in /usr/local/bin.  Should it be looking in /bin instead/
[13:58] <curlyears> since I got a couple of 3TB drives for tghis system, I bought a BlueRay writer for backups.  Can get 25GB per disk that way.   That makes sense, doesn't it?
[13:58] <curlyears> never mind, I figured the bash question oout fir myself.  *grin*
[13:59] <zykotick9> curlyears: i'd suggest against using bitchx...  irssi or weechat are supported console based irc clients.
[13:59] <dury> hi there all channel
[13:59] <dury> :-)
[13:59] <dury> keeping all right guys?
[14:00] <brontosaurusrex> weechat rules.
[14:01] <OerHeks> last version bitchx 14 nov 2014 .. dead project
[14:01] <erkan^> I saw that Firefox is be slow on Ubuntu MATE. Do you have a same problem?
[14:02] <Josh4all> normal here
[14:02] <mrproper> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu desktop 16.04 and I can’t get flash working on the Adobe flash test page in Opera, Chromium, or Chrome itself. Any suggestions?
[14:02] <curlyears> OerHeks:   hmm...what is a decent alternative to bitchx?
[14:03] <Pici> curlyears: irssi or weechat.
[14:03] <yahn> curlyears, irssi is the best terminal irc client IMO
[14:03] <roue> hola
[14:03] <erkan^> You don't need Flash on Chrome, mr
[14:03] <curlyears> yahn:  OK
[14:03] <erkan^> mrproper,
[14:03] <curlyears> thanks
[14:03] <LambdaComplex> weechat is <3
[14:03] <Fuchs> curlyears: irssi or weechat, the latter is more actively developed these days
[14:03] <Fuchs> both work
[14:04] <roue> I'm trying to find an updated ImageMagick package for 14.04.4 to address the recent CVE. Does one exist for that release? I can't seem to find it and it's not showing up after an apt-get update .
[14:04] <roue> Maybe the fix was backported?
[14:04] <Pici> roue: I didn't think that any patches for the CVE were available yet.
[14:05] <ghoost> where can I download old libc.so.6 ?
[14:05] <ghoost> I want 2.16
[14:05] <spm_draget> '/etc/init.d/foo restart' is deprecated, the old init-system, right?
[14:06] <ghoost> I want libc.so.6 > 2.3 and < 2.17
[14:06] <ghoost> where can I find that binary ?
[14:07] <spm_draget> 'service foo restart' is deprecated, from the old upstart-system, right?
[14:07] <OerHeks> ghoost, for what ubuntu version?
[14:07] <tkeller> Ahhh, irssi seems to be working..
[14:07] <ghoost> OerHeks: does that really matter ?
[14:07] <spm_draget> 'systemctl restart foo.service' is the current (16.04) way to handle services - which comes from systemd, right?
[14:07] <ghoost> 64 bit
[14:07] <OerHeks> ghoost, yes
[14:07] <ghoost> oh, then...
[14:08] <ghoost> Actually I'm using kali
[14:08] <ghoost> kali rolling
[14:08] <Pici> ghoost: they have their own support channel at #kali-linux
[14:08] <OerHeks> kale is not based on ubuntu. so i guess i cannot help you with that.
[14:08] <ghoost> Pici: okay thanks
[14:09] <curlyears> *whew*   Now I need to try installing cura again.(*shudder*)
[14:09] <erkan^> Josh4all, I saw that Chromium is faster than Firefox, how can that?
[14:10] <Josh4all> you mean the launch time is faster?
[14:10] <joko> Hello, is there any IRC channel for LXD?
[14:10] <erkan^> Chromium open is faster, page lading is faster, etc. Josh4all
[14:10] <erkan^> Firefox open is slow
[14:10] <erkan^> and Page slow too
[14:10] <erkan^> I don't understnad why
[14:11] <erkan^> Can someone research this what is a cause that Firefox is be slow
[14:11] <erkan^> ...
[14:11] <OerHeks> erkan^, try to remove you firefox profile, and start firefox again, it might help speed up
[14:11] <jcastro> joko: #lxcontainers
[14:11] <Pici> (be sure to back it up somewhere)
[14:11] <joko> jcastro: thanks, much appreciated
[14:11] <yahn> erkan^, it's probably due to Gecko..Firefox has always been sluggish compared to Chrome/Chromium for me
[14:12] <erkan^> I did it , OerHeks
[14:12] <erkan^> maybe, yahn
[14:12] <ghoost> but I can download libc for any os and run right ?
[14:12] <xangua> erkan^: chromium/chrome opens faster because it's always running in background
[14:12] <yahn> ghoost, no
[14:12] <ghoost> yahn: but I did
[14:12] <ghoost> for challenges
[14:12] <ghoost> hacking challenges
[14:12] <OerHeks> xangua +1
[14:12] <erkan^> ok, xangua
[14:12] <ghoost> the host libc at server
[14:12] <ghoost> for download
[14:13] <ghoost> and anyone (disregarding the os of the participant) can use that
[14:13] <ghoost> to run the application to be hacked
[14:13] <Josh4all> I hate Chrome and only use it when I want to watch video sites built in Flash -.-
[14:13] <ghoost> by loading that libc
[14:13] <curlyears> sheesh...the download webssite says to use "apt-get install cura"  but when I do that it complais "package cura not found"
[14:13] <Pici> curlyears: what is cura?
[14:14] <Pici> ghoost: Please try to stay on-topic here. This channel is for Ubuntu support (which you aren't using) only.  Also, hacking challenges are off-topic here.
[14:14] <curlyears> Pici:  gcode generator and control "paneL" for my 3D printer
[14:14] <erkan^> Flash is built in Chromium, Josh4all
[14:14] <ghoost> Pici: I just want libc
[14:14] <ghoost> ubuntu one will do
[14:14] <DJones> curlyears: Looks like this might be what you need http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/cura-engine
[14:14] <xangua> erkan^: not in chromium
[14:14] <Josh4all> erkan^: oh? for now?
[14:15] <ghoost> Pici: any version binary, which does not have glibc ghost patch Pici
[14:15] <ghoost> any version *ubuntu* glibc binary
[14:15] <OerHeks> ghoost, easy to find, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc
[14:15] <Pici> ghoost: Thats not a complete sentence, I'm not sure what you're asking.
[14:15] <ghoost> OerHeks: I want binary
[14:15] <ghoost> not source
[14:16] <erkan^> ow for chrome only, xanadu__ ?
[14:16] <erkan^> xangua
[14:16] <curlyears> Djones:  isn't xenial 16.04?
[14:16] <erkan^> Why isn't Google Chrome in software centre, xangua ?
[14:16] <ghoost> Pici: I just want a libc binary (for ubuntu os, say) which is compiled in 2014 or before
[14:17] <yahn> curlyears, cura-engine which is available in the repositories is only a command line STL to GCODE converter
[14:17] <Josh4all> I once tried to install old libraries via rpm packages using "alien"
[14:17] <curlyears> ghoost:  this isn't the place to ask, after mentioning hacking
[14:17] <DJones> curlyears: Yes it is, but looks like the same package is available since at least 14.04
[14:17] <yahn> curlyears, you want this most likely: https://ultimaker.com/en/products/cura-software
[14:17] <ghoost> curlyears: the good kind of hacking
[14:17] <Pici> ghoost: feel free to search through http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:18] <yahn> there's a link to a .deb on that page for Ubuntu
[14:18] <ghoost> Pici: but that gives source code right ?
[14:18] <Josh4all> not sure if it is a good way to go anyways
[14:18] <ghoost> Can I get a binary
[14:18] <ghoost> >
[14:18] <ghoost> >
[14:18] <ghoost> ?
[14:18] <Pici> ghoost: it gives source and binary.
[14:18] <curlyears> *sigh*  I don't know why lulzbot can get things right
[14:18] <ghoost> Pici: I could not find the libc binary there
[14:19] <ghoost> could you please give a link to it ?
[14:19] <curlyears> could someone please send me a short /msg?
[14:19] <Pici> ghoost: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libc6
[14:20] <pauljw> you gonna do the hack for him too, Pici ?  :)
[14:20] <Pici> pauljw: I'm waiting for that question ;)
[14:20] <pauljw> lol
[14:20] <django_> hey folks
[14:20] <django_> im on xfce4 how can i make my terminal look different?
[14:21] <yahn> django_, Preferences -> Appearance
[14:22] <sean_> this might be a bit late but i think that firefox is better
[14:22] <sean_> my pc just runs way better overall when chrome is not installed
[14:23] <Josh4all> i've changed my old sempron 3200+ pc into using a 64bit OS
[14:24] <juampi> hola
[14:24] <santiago_> HOla
[14:24] <Josh4all> just because there is no 32bit flash player soon under Ubuntu or any other distros... -.-
[14:24] <sean_> i favour 64 bit because it just hinders you less. some apps only come in 64bit these days
[14:24] <juampi> niceeee
[14:25] <Josh4all> sean_: true
[14:29] <Abe_> uhm... can you actually make any usb stick bootable?
[14:29] <yahn> Abe_, what do you mean?
[14:29] <Abe_> I'm on live CD right now playing with 16.04
[14:29] <sean_> yes as long as it has enough space for the image
[14:30] <Abe_> if you could make any USB stick bootable...
[14:30] <k1l> Abe_: yes. but that will erase all data on that usb pendrive
[14:30] <Abe_> well I only have an 2gb Mp3 player usb stick xD does that work too?
[14:30] <yahn> Abe_, it probably will
[14:31] <k1l> uh, that depends on as what exactly that will show itself to bios.
[14:31] <Inocuous> my whole ubuntu operating system is on a 64g memory stick
[14:31] <k1l> but it might break the player
[14:32] <Abe_> I found it laying around here.. cuz I ruined another DVD even if it said successfull... I didn't do an md5sum check after burning.. it only gives me an boot error when trying to boot from dvd
[14:32] <sean_> you will just have to format the drive again. i dont actually suggest it because it could cause damage.
[14:32] <k1l> Abe_: did you reduce the burning speed?
[14:32] <Abe_> I was burning lubuntu 16.04 this time... and I also need kubuntu xD.. yes I need all three :D
[14:33] <Abe_> k1l: yes minimum was x6.. I did that
[14:33] <k1l> Abe_:  a free or cheap 2-4Gb usb pendrive would be best. or at least RW dvds.
[14:33] <sean_> remember it also depends on the disc. if its a cheap disc and you burn too slow then it will fail also. The better the quality of the dvd the less you need to worry about speed
[14:33] <Abe_> so that was the 3rd dvd that lands in the garbage
[14:34] <Abe_> 1 DVD was successfull
[14:34] <k1l> are you sue its not a booting error of the system?
[14:34] <k1l> *sure
[14:34] <yahn> Abe_, for the sake of your own sanity I'd suggest waiting and grabbing a cheap USB stick :P
[14:34] <Abe_> k1l: Yes let me explain
[14:34] <sl4ck> .
[14:34] <sl4ck> .
[14:34] <curlyears> howdy, k1l.  I found the problem with major assistance from reisio
[14:35] <Abe_> On my old computer it gives me an boot error. can't remember what exacly. something like it couldn't load a specific file
[14:35] <Abe_> ^ lubuntu
[14:35] <Abe_> on my better one It actually gives me the option to "try lubuntu" and so on
[14:36] <curlyears> turns out that I needed to sitwch my CD setting to "UEFI" from "UTO", and also I discovered that somehow the HDD boot priority got changed, and it was attempting to boot from the wrong HDD   *smirk*
[14:36] <curlyears> hi, squinty
[14:37] <Abe_> but If I click it i stays black.. also when I choose the option Check lubuntu disk.. computer screen just stays black.. so It didn't burn right again :/
[14:37] <ioria> uto ? auto maybe ....
[14:38] <curlyears> well, now I need top try 16.04 out.  Given all the troubles I have had, I think I'll try the Live-DVD first
[14:38] <Abe_> using my old Pc for burning now cuz at least it burned one successfull. I'm on live cd right now. playing around
[14:39] <Abe_> didn't change much from 14.04... I still need lubuntu and kubuntu CD...
[14:39] <curlyears> query:  when doing a Live-DVD, does anyone know how large the ramfs it creates is,, or does it depend on how much RAM you actually have/
[14:39] <Abe_> well idk cuz it's only live cd so there's probably a lot that changed
[14:40] <roya_> hello, I wanna know how to install wayland session on my newlly installed 16.04 gnome ubuntu
[14:40]  * curlyears squirms a bit, and points out that it is a Live DVD, not a Live CD
[14:41] <Abe_> yes before I waste the money on dvd's again I will use an usb stick.. Idk. if my old PC boots from USB though :/ so I need to burn plop linux xD
[14:41] <OerHeks> roya_, not, ubuntu develops MIR, a fork of wayland.
[14:41] <Abe_> roya_: Isn't it Mir under Ubuntu not Wayland???
[14:41] <curlyears> ???   waste money on DVDs?  I always buy re-writable media, don't you?
[14:41] <cantstanya> l
[14:42] <cantstanya> oh
[14:42] <yahn> roya_, is there not an option on the login screen to try Wayland?
[14:42] <OerHeks> https://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/
[14:42] <curlyears> what is wayland
[14:42] <curlyears> ?
[14:42] <Abe_> I bought memorex dvd's in Walmart.. I didn't see rewritable... well I didn't look either
[14:43] <yahn> curlyears, a display server designed to replace X
[14:43] <Abe_> display manager
[14:43] <DJones> roya_: wayland has been dropped by Canonical http://www.pcworld.com/article/2030053/with-convergence-in-mind-ubuntu-linux-scraps-wayland.html
[14:43] <curlyears> Abe_:   I am pretty sure Walmart carries re-writables.   Best But or any office supply store can also supply them
[14:43] <bella_shen> ?
[14:43] <bella_shen> hello
[14:44] <yahn> DJones, that only applies to Ubuntu proper, not the spinoffs
[14:44] <yahn> I'm pretty sure Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 has an option to try out Wayland support
[14:44] <Abe_> yeah but their are also more expensive. and I didn't think I would ruin any
[14:44] <curlyears> ah.  Wouldn't usinf something other than X break a lot of stuff?
[14:44] <bella_shen> 中国人有吗
[14:44] <bella_shen> china?
[14:45] <curlyears> Abe_:  then buy online from TigerDirect
[14:45] <roya_> yahn, no, there is none, only gnome clasic
[14:45] <Abe_> now I ruined three so far..on two different pc's... so not a very good result
[14:45] <curlyears> Abe_:  how are you "ruining" them?
[14:45] <yahn> roya_, you need to install gnome-session-wayland first
[14:46] <Abe_> using linux burning programs xD... k3b,xfburn, and brasero
[14:46] <yahn> it only works on open source video drivers mind you
[14:46] <curlyears> Abe_:  but in what WAY were they "wasted?"
[14:47] <Abe_> curlyears: program crashed, program froze, and burned with errors I guess
[14:47] <curlyears> did your burner software report any errors to you?
[14:47] <roya_> yahn, thanks, I'll try it as soon as I'm done installing flashplayer-installer
[14:48] <Abe_> curlyears: the first 2 times yes.... the last time it said successfull.. but after booting it, it wasn't
[14:48] <dannymichel> Would it be at all possible to do some sort of universal recent files per app menu? Like say I have totem open and want to go to my recent files only opened in that app
[14:48] <Abe_> at least I got 1 successfull out of 4
[14:49] <Abe_> which i'm on right now
[14:51] <Abe_> and I still need lubuntu, it's more important than kubuntu... cuz a family member needs it too.. not right now but later
[14:51] <wad> I installed a database (Percona 5.7) from .deb files. I'd like to uninstall now. But when I scroll through the software center, I don't see it. Help?
[14:52] <Abe_> what was the program I need to make an usb bootable?
[14:52] <k1l> Abe_: dd
[14:52] <Abe_> k1l: just dd?
[14:52] <touil76> Hi. I'm still investigating my problem of screensaver in ubuntu 16.04. The computer cannot be woken up after the screensaver has launched.
[14:52] <yahn> Abe_, you can use Startup Disk Creator
[14:53] <OerHeks> wad, their site gives hope, https://www.percona.com/doc/percona-server/5.5/installation/apt_repo.html#uninstalling-percona-server
[14:53] <k1l> Abe_: no. you need to tell dd fom where to what it needs to work. but there are gui programs, too.
[14:53] <wad> Ah, thanks!
[14:53] <Abe_> ok I do that when I'm off this livecd
[14:54] <Abe_> k1l: I prefer gui's
[14:54] <touil76> Can anybody help ?
[14:54] <Abe_> depends
[14:56] <scatterp> can any one help me fix grub for some reason cant get machine to boot...
[14:56] <touil76> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1577170
[14:58] <touil76> What I found is that turning dpms off solves the problem in some way, preventing the screen to be turned completely off (it just shows the login page).
[14:58] <curlyears> would someone please send me a brief /msg?  ANything will do, I just want to what a /msg looks like in this nw client
[14:59] <Abe_> touil76: are you the one reporting the bug? it says it only affects 1 person so far according to your link
[14:59] <touil76> But I also found that, when the screen is turned off by screensaver, the keyboard is also locked, because then I cannot change its numlock state. (the led on the keyboard does not goes on or off)
[15:00] <touil76> Abe_: I am the one that has reported the bug.
[15:00] <Abe_> touil76: good
[15:01] <touil76> Abe_: Can you help me investigate what causes the problem ?
[15:01] <poorUser> Hi people! dumb question, if i install the newest 16.04, formatting / and not the /home, will all hidden files and configs be purged? or it'll preserve old files and i must remove them all?
[15:02] <Abe_> touil76: I can also just google. I'm not an computer expert. I would try to find a suitable workaround
[15:03] <curlyears> unless /home is a separate partition, you can't dp that
[15:03] <Abe_> touil76: I hope somebody else might help you resolving your problem
[15:03] <poorUser> it is in a separate, i'm going to format / only
[15:03] <touil76> Abe_: I hope it too.
[15:04] <curlyears> Abe_:   "not a computer expert?"   BEGONE Thou Knave!!!!   (kidding, of course)
[15:05] <Abe_> touil76: you should ask in a forum also
[15:05] <curlyears> I *USED* to be a "computer expert."  Leave the game for three years, you are back to being a nooob
[15:05] <touil76> Abe_: what kind of forum ?
[15:06] <touil76> curlyears : Would you help me ?
[15:06] <curlyears> would someone please send me a brief /msg?  ANything will do, I just want to what a /msg looks like in this nw client
[15:06] <curlyears> tiul76:  willing to try, but I don't know much about current versions of things
[15:06] <Josh4all> I have sent one and there is no reply from you?
[15:06] <trevor_s> is there any problem creating an array using mdadm pointing to /dev/sdb /dev/sdc, etc instead of /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1, etc??
[15:07] <curlyears> Josh4all:  hmm...I don't think I ever saw it.   Odd
[15:07] <poorUser> ok none know how it works :D to have no problems i'll manually remove them all
[15:07] <Abe_> touil76: you might ask http://ubuntuforums.org/ if you speak german which you probably don't I always ask here https://ubuntuusers.de/
[15:08] <OerHeks> !askubuntu
[15:08] <touil76> Abe_: My german is very very poor.
[15:08] <scatterp> can any one help me fix grub for some reason cant get machine to boot...
[15:09] <Abe_> touil76:  then I recommend http://ubuntuforums.org/
[15:09] <Abe_> they never helped me much though... Im glad that i can use german forums
[15:09] <curlyears> why is there no man or help entry for grub?
[15:10] <Pici> curlyears: its not a command.
[15:10] <Abe_> curlyears: grub is the boot manager
[15:10] <Josh4all> curlyears: have you checked the message in the server buffer?
[15:10] <Abe_> why does ubuntu always feels like a permanent beta
[15:13] <LinuxCreeper> haLLO
[15:13] <LinuxCreeper> hallo
[15:13] <curlyears> greetings, German person
[15:13] <Abe_> hallo go to #ubuntu-de for german support
[15:13] <LinuxCreeper> ok ty
[15:14] <Sc0tty-> hello, I don't know if this is the correct channel, but is it possibly to have clickable check boxes in libre office writer?
[15:14] <yahn> Sc0tty-, #libreoffice would be a better place to ask that question
[15:15] <Sc0tty-> yahn: thanks!
[15:15] <curlyears> 10:15, there goes the tornado siren test
[15:21] <touil76> bug posted in ubuntuforum.com
[15:22] <touil76> ubuntuforums.org (of course)
[15:24] <Akuli> When will 16.04.1 be released?
[15:24] <Abe_> Akuli: I think July
[15:25] <Akuli> Ok, nice
[15:25] <Akuli> So i won't have to wait for 16.04 forever :)
[15:25] <tkeller> * yeesh*   I got stuck in a /query, couldn't figure out how to exit it (/iunquery, as it turns out)
[15:26] <tkeller> well,. off to burn a 16.04 DVD and try a Live-DVD session of 16.05.  Hopefully be back sooonly
[15:26] <shekhar> where can i find the AppData folder in ubuntu ??
[15:26] <nicomachus> Akuli: July 21st
[15:26] <kenifanying> Hi all, I have ubuntu 16.04 LTS installed and want to share my Public folder. I install apache2-bin and libapache2-mod-dnssd packages, then turn on the share options on Public peferences. But I can't access it, any suggestion?
[15:27] <Akuli> shekhar: There is no appdata, there is not even a C drive. What file are you looking for?
[15:28] <shekhar> Akuli:  AppData is the folder name In windows, I need the corresponding one in Ubuntu
[15:28] <Akuli> shekhar: what program's settings?
[15:28] <Abe_> shekhar ubuntu isn't anything like windows
[15:29] <Akuli> shekhar: .config in your home folder is much like appdata, but i can't be more specific if you don't tell the name of the program.
[15:29] <shekhar> Abe_:  yes, but the data in a program should be stored somewhere
[15:29] <Akuli> Oh, you're writing a program?
[15:29] <Pici> shekhar: it might be in .config or .local or in a new hidden file/folder it creates.
[15:30] <Abe_> I didn't know what the appdata folder is for
[15:31] <curlyears> burning DVD
[15:31] <Akuli> shekhar: Can you tell us if you're making the program, or the name of the program if you're not?
[15:32] <Abe_> sometimes programs also create hidden folders in /home
[15:32] <Akuli> right, especially a bit older programs, but also some up-to-date ones like gimp
[15:34] <Abe_> k going to ruin "hopefully not" another dvd
[15:34] <shekhar> Pici Akuli Abe_ :  firstly, I am very new to Ubuntu kindly bear my nooblishness, Everything i mentioned above is related to an opensource application named OpenMRS, where the module war files are to be placed in AppData folder
[15:35] <shekhar> Pici:  Akuli  Abe_  inorder run the module we need to  load the module initially
[15:35] <shekhar> did that makes sense?? :)
[15:35] <Akuli> shekhar: Ok, then you can run "find openmrs" on the terminal to check if you can find its setting files.
[15:35] <Akuli> Yes :)
[15:37] <shekhar> Akuli:  onething where can we find the .config file for an application in Ubuntu
[15:37] <Pici> shekhar: global configs are in /etc/
[15:37] <Akuli> shekhar: Open your home folder, press Ctrl+H, go to .config
[15:38] <Akuli> Pici: or /usr/lib or /usr/share/somethign or whatever :)
[15:38] <OerHeks> according to their page https://wiki.openmrs.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3346553 >> /usr/share/openmrs
[15:38] <shekhar> Akuli:  I got that
[15:39] <shekhar> Akuli:  Thank you :) 🙇
[15:39] <nacc> this isn't really an ubuntu question, though, as you're installing from source
[15:39] <Pici> shekhar: Also the comments on https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Step+5+-+Deploy+OpenMRS has some info of where to put the war file.
[15:39] <nacc> so it's a question of what does openmrs do
[15:39] <nacc> which is probably relevant to all distros
[15:40] <shekhar> Pici:  I know how to do that using windows , but few days back i switched to ubuntu
[15:40] <curlyears> howdy,nacc
[15:41] <shekhar> Pici:  thats the real problem, BTW i got that !! , Thank you guys
[15:41] <curlyears> there ARE books on using linux available
[15:41]  * curlyears *ducks*
[15:41] <Abe_> dammit know I know why lubuntu screwed up on my old pc
[15:41] <akik> shekhar: you can use "dpkg -L package" to see where it has installed its files
[15:42] <curlyears> bacl in a while
[15:42] <Akuli> akik: maybe we should introduce him to the scary terminal later :)
[15:42] <Akuli> or rather, introduce the scary terminal to him
[15:42] <Akuli> :D
[15:42] <Abe_> I usually do md5sum checks... but there where in my experience always correct. now I checked and the md5check thingy is not correct.. thats why I ruined lubuntu dvd..
[15:42] <nacc> Akuli: afaik, this is not a package (i don't see it in the archives)
[15:42] <akik> Akuli: i don't see the reason
[15:43] <nacc> err, akik --^ not Akuli, sorry
[15:43] <Abe_> cuz I didn't check the first time nooooo
[15:43] <Abe_> need to download again and delete this corrupt iso file befor it creates more damage
[15:43] <akik> !find openmrs
[15:43] <Akuli> akik: he will switch back to windows if he needs to learn the terminal during the first few days.
[15:44] <yahn> Akuli, not necessarily true
[15:44] <Akuli> but likely
[15:44] <akik> Akuli: yea well that's how i started and it was all good
[15:44] <venter> hi every one
[15:45] <Abe_> Akuli: you don't have to use the terminal if you don't want to. helpful but if you only do basic thing's you don't actually need it
[15:45] <venter> any good tutorial on how to install #any  connect Cisco vpn in Ubuntu16
[15:45] <Akuli> I disagree about that a bit, but that's true for the most part :)
[15:46] <Akuli> Some things just can't be done without it
[15:46] <yahn> Abe_, I don't think that's true. Every person I know who's used Ubuntu has at some time had to drop into the terminal
[15:46] <akik> you don't get the full linux experience if you don't use the shell
[15:46] <yahn> that's not a good thing either
[15:46] <Akuli> but for the average user, 99% true :)
[15:46] <Akuli> akik: that's an opinion.
[15:46] <nacc> it's a great thing, if you treat the shell as empowering rather than scary :)
[15:47] <Akuli> right :)
[15:47] <akik> yes i very much think that you don't get the full linux experience if you don't use the shell
[15:47] <Abe_> Akuli: thats true, for basic things you don't.. I think people shouldn't have to open a terminal for nothing.... Ubuntu has to be dumb down for the public or nobody will ever use it in the future
[15:47] <yahn> it's only great if you use it by choice, not because your other options have failed
[15:47] <Akuli> right, i agree
[15:47] <nacc> but now we're in the realm of opinions, again --> #offtopic :)
[15:49] <michele_> good evening
[15:49] <yahn> venter, http://askubuntu.com/questions/488435/cisco-vpn-configuration-steps
[15:49] <venter> thanks yahn
[15:53] <frew> hey all; I need to tweak some of the neauvou settings on X11; since I don't have an xorg.conf to modify, can I like, export the current config and modify that?
[15:55] <OerHeks> frew, if you need it, you can create a xorg.conf > http://askubuntu.com/questions/217758/how-to-make-an-xorg-conf-file
[15:56] <Abe_2> ok I'm on my old Pc now... where do I find the lubuntu 16.04 as torrent.. over browser it seems to be very slow on mine
[15:56] <frew> OerHeks: thanks
[15:57] <OerHeks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:57] <UrbanFlash> hello, i have a severe problem with my proprietary nvidia driver. It just stopped working this morning after running perfectly for the last few months
[15:57] <yahn> UrbanFlash, what do you mean by 'stopped working'?
[15:58] <donofrio> anyone here know why once I wifi working in 16.04 I see my access point and many others but mine and three others are "greyed" out? help
[15:58] <UrbanFlash> at the first boot this morning i just had a black screen
[15:58] <UrbanFlash> then i removed the driver and rebooted = running vesa now
[15:58] <UrbanFlash> now, whenever i install nvidia (whichever version) i still get the vesa driver
[15:58] <UrbanFlash> and the Xorg.0.log says: Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[15:58] <Abe_2> OerHeks: thx but It was on lubuntu.net couldn't find it first
[15:59] <UrbanFlash> right now i have 361 installed
[15:59] <UrbanFlash> and as far as i can tell it built the module normally
[15:59] <UrbanFlash> is there any way to force a module rebuild or get more info than that?
[16:00] <Abe_2> funny how my old PC is blazing fast with lubuntu.. faster than my I3 with kubuntu xD.. well you can't compare it
[16:00] <yahn> UrbanFlash, did you remove the previous driver cleanly? sudo apt-get remove nvidia* && sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:00] <shekhar> is there a way to run the .sh files other than a command via teminal
[16:00] <UrbanFlash> i did a purge nvidia* --purge
[16:00] <UrbanFlash> and i have done this for 10+ years, so i'm pretty sure there was nothing left
[16:00] <shekhar> Abe_:  is there a way to run the .sh files other than a command via teminal
[16:01] <UrbanFlash> dkms also says the module is installed for the correct kernel
[16:01] <akik> UrbanFlash: there's "sudo apt install --reinstall package"
[16:01] <Akuli> shekhar: a command in terminal? :D
[16:01] <yahn> UrbanFlash, I would suggest installing whatever version of the proprietary driver you want and then running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:01] <Akuli> shekhar: You can do it without any typing if you want
[16:02] <Akuli> shekhar: First right-click the file, go to properties and make sure it has executable permissions, then drag and drop it to a terminal and press enter
[16:02] <Akuli> shekhar: That easy :)
[16:02] <UrbanFlash> will try, but i don't think it will help, that will only write a xorg.conf which i haven't needed or used for a few years
[16:03] <Abe_2> shekhar: I don't know... I just do ./qrehqfq;oirf .sh to start something
[16:03] <UrbanFlash> ok, it basically did nothing visible...
[16:03] <r0bert_> lol
[16:03] <yahn> oh
[16:03] <UrbanFlash> not even a xorg.conf anymore
[16:03] <Abe_2> shekhar: change permissions of course
[16:03] <r0b> i get bored sometimes
[16:03] <r0b> idk
[16:03] <Akuli> I think he can even double-click it after changing the permissions
[16:04] <nomoney4u2> question: i installed the firmware-b43-installer  last night and it went great, i was able to see my network.  today - i dont see anything
[16:04] <nomoney4u2> iwlist wlan1 scan shows no result.
[16:04] <nomoney4u2> can someone help?
[16:04] <donofrio> anyone had AP's greyed out while many others are lite up allowing me to select everyone but my own AP????
[16:04] <akik> UrbanFlash: i've got an intel+nvidia system with a xorg configuration file. do you want to take a look?
[16:06] <yahn> UrbanFlash, when you run sudo modprobe nvidia what is the output?
[16:06] <Akuli> shekhar: Is the right-clicking thing working?
[16:06] <UrbanFlash> no thanks akik, i have a desktop with only a dedicated nvidia card, i don't think that will help
[16:06] <frew> ok, anyone know how to ask X11 what it's current settings are?  only so I can verify that I changed them correctly
[16:07] <UrbanFlash> yahn, no output, and lsmod says nvidia is running from the start
[16:07] <shekhar> Akuli:  double click is  not working but the drag and drop is
[16:07] <UrbanFlash> lspci and lshw also say the nvidia driver is in use
[16:07] <UrbanFlash> only the graphical information panel in the system settings tell me it uses the gallium driver
[16:07] <Akuli> shekhar: you were supposed to right-click and go to properties.
[16:07] <yahn> UrbanFlash, can you please run sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf and tell me which alternative is selected
[16:08] <shekhar> Akuli:  yes i have done that
[16:08] <Akuli> shekhar: and the allow executing as program is checked?
[16:08] <donofrio> anyone ever had a install where you get wifi working and you have list ten AP shown but three are greyed out and one of the greyed out selections is "my AP?"
[16:08] <shekhar> Akuli:  yes done that too..
[16:08] <Akuli> shekhar: then drag to terminal, click the terminal once and press enter :)
[16:09] <robco> I've been wrestling with 16.04, trying to get it to work well on a Compaq Pro 6300 (that has been certified for 14.04 iirc).
[16:09] <UrbanFlash> yahn, good catch, it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/16220328/
[16:09] <shekhar> Akuli:  it is fine , but a double click  should also do the same
[16:09] <robco> I have a fresh install with errors in dmesg and syslog
[16:09] <shekhar> Akuli:  i  mean a double click on .sh file
[16:09] <UrbanFlash> i hope the german is no problem, it just says automatic mode and manual mode
[16:09] <robco> anyone have a recommendation on where to place them to get help? best area online for 16.04 support?
[16:10] <Akuli> shekhar: what do you get when double-clicking then? it opens in a text editor?
[16:10] <yahn> robco, what do you need help with?
[16:10] <UrbanFlash> i really have no idea why this uses the lowes priority driver an on manual
[16:10] <UrbanFlash> i will try changing, reboot and report back
[16:10] <yahn> UrbanFlash, I also have no idea. Are you able to select option 0
[16:10] <robco> getting xenial to work properly yahn
[16:10] <UrbanFlash> thanks so far
[16:10] <shekhar> yes Akuli
[16:10] <yahn> good luck
[16:10] <robco> lol
[16:10] <robco> I have some pastes
[16:10] <Akuli> shekhar: try it now, you probably tried it before you gave it the executable flag
[16:10] <OerHeks> !paste | robco
[16:10] <robco> http://pastebin.com/9znwktDu
[16:11] <robco> http://pastebin.com/QQXYiYVj
[16:11] <robco> http://pastebin.com/9yB6WJfh
[16:11] <yahn> shekhar, tomcat is a service rather than a regular program..I don't think it's designed to be run the way you're intending it to
[16:11] <yahn> that's what I could gather by skimming over the documentation
[16:12] <shekhar> yahn: Ahh ok :)
[16:12] <akik> double clicking a sh file. what has the world come to
[16:12] <UrbanFlash> ok, i'm back with no success
[16:13] <UrbanFlash> after the reboot alternatives is set back to the mesa driver
[16:13] <yahn> robco, I'm not sure what you're trying to show us here
[16:14] <Akuli> shekhar: Use the software center for installing stuff, never download anything from the net unless you're sure you need to do it that way
[16:14] <Akuli> never anything.
[16:14] <akik> yahn: thanks for the update-alternatives tip. didn't know that it could be used for other things such as linker config files
[16:15] <billy12> Does anyone know what automotive analysis tool does?
[16:15] <yahn> UrbanFlash, when you open the additional drivers tab do the option for the proprietary driver show up? Is the one you want selected?
[16:15] <UrbanFlash> yahn, yes it is
[16:15] <yahn> UrbanFlash, can you try running sudo nvidia-xconfig please
[16:16] <UrbanFlash> yahn, i did, now i have a default xorg.conf
[16:16] <yahn> with entries for the nvidia card?
[16:17] <UrbanFlash> yes: Identifier     "Device0"
[16:17] <UrbanFlash>     Driver         "nvidia"
[16:17] <UrbanFlash>     VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
[16:17] <UrbanFlash> only the bare minimum
[16:17] <OerHeks> billy12, you might want to ask in the backbox channel, it is not part of our repos
[16:17] <UrbanFlash> i'll give it a try, brb
[16:17] <yahn> ok
[16:17] <yahn> good luck :)
[16:17] <yahn> robco, can you be a bit more specific? What part(s) are you having issues with?
[16:17] <robco> yahn, please check the errors
[16:18] <billy12> Ok, thanks OerHeks!
[16:18] <robco> well, when I install ldap and nscd
[16:18] <robco> and configure it
[16:18] <robco> I no longer get a login screen
[16:18] <robco> and my monitor isn't found
[16:18] <robco> It makes no sense
[16:19] <robco> but the fact that I have so many errors - I want to take these out of the equation first
[16:19] <UrbanFlash> tss
[16:19] <UrbanFlash> somehow the xorg.conf is gone again after a reboot and no change...
[16:19] <robco> I've done about 10 installs and keep ending up with the black screen after LDAP and NSCD config - doesn't make sense
[16:19] <yahn> robco, yeah that seems weird, I can't see a relation
[16:19] <yahn> UrbanFlash, that's also really strange
[16:19] <robco> me neither
[16:20] <robco> but I'm trying to wipe out errors
[16:20] <UrbanFlash> it seems it got renamed to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.05042016
[16:20] <robco> so I can narrow down what's happening
[16:20] <UrbanFlash> and didn't load because of that
[16:20] <donofrio> anyone ever had a install where you get wifi working and you have list ten AP shown but three are greyed out and one of the greyed out selections is "my AP?"
[16:21] <robco> After LDAP & NSCD, and not before, I edn up with X11 not finding a display
[16:24] <yahn> robco, I wish I could help but my knowledge of LDAP etc is extremely limited
[16:24] <Biff1> Hello, upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10, now networking and USB ports do not work. If I boot from USB with 14.04 and do an install will the file structure remain intact on the HD?
[16:25] <yahn> I also can't think of a reason why it would be at all related to your X settings
[16:25] <robco> any idea on a good place to go with these logs?
[16:25] <yahn> the only thing that comes to mind is some kind of timeout related to ldap logins
[16:25] <robco> nope
[16:25] <robco> I can even su to ldap user before reboot
[16:26] <robco> I believe it may be related to the edit of nsswitch.conf
[16:26] <robco> but not sure
[16:26] <UrbanFlash> yahn, do you know your way around dkms?
[16:27] <yahn> UrbanFlash, not too well UrbanFlash
[16:27] <robco> right
[16:27] <UrbanFlash> i'm trying to rebuild the module, but i'm unsure how that would work
[16:27] <UrbanFlash> if i do dkms build nvidia/361 it says it can't fint the source
[16:27] <robco> and when things go wrong, a reinstall of xorg, lightdm, etc doesn't help
[16:27] <yahn> robco, looking through those logs doesn't show anything that jumps out to me
[16:28] <robco> that's the fresh look
[16:28] <robco> i haven't touched it yet at that point
[16:28] <yahn> UrbanFlash, you've got the linux-headers package installed yeah?
[16:28] <UrbanFlash> yeah
[16:28] <UrbanFlash> the thing is: the module is built, installed and running
[16:29] <UrbanFlash> X just can't find it at boot and falls back to vesa
[16:29] <yahn> UrbanFlash, last ditch effort, have you tried to install the drivers manuall from nvidia.com?
[16:29] <yahn> manually*
[16:29] <UrbanFlash> not yet
[16:29] <UrbanFlash> that was also my last idea before a reinstall
[16:30] <yahn> UrbanFlash, the million dollar question, did you change anything relevant before the issue cropped up?
[16:30] <UrbanFlash> nope, i shut the pc down yesterday evening with everything working perfectly
[16:30] <UrbanFlash> this morning the error was there
[16:31] <UrbanFlash> there were 3 updates yesterday
[16:31] <UrbanFlash> the only one remotely to do with drivers or graphics was ubuntu-drivers-common
[16:31] <yahn> anything relevant to the kernel/base?
[16:31] <yahn> hmm
[16:31] <Biff1> Hello, upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10, now networking and USB ports do not work. If I boot from USB with 14.04 and do an install will the folder structure remain intact on the HD?
[16:31] <UrbanFlash> but as far as i can tell that's not really connected to the drivers
[16:31] <UrbanFlash> it's only for the installer
[16:32] <Akuli> Biff1: 16.04 was also released recently, so you could try that too. i'd recommend taking backups before reinstalling anyway.
[16:33] <Biff1> no network no USB, how can I do a backup?
[16:33] <tgm4883> Biff1: I'd second testing 16.04. You can use the live USB to verify that networking works
[16:33] <tgm4883> Biff1: did you encrypt your partition?
[16:34] <Biff1> no encryption
[16:34] <tgm4883> Biff1: then you should be able to mount the disk in a live session
[16:34] <tgm4883> I'd still recommend the testing of the 16.04 live session
[16:35] <Biff1> excellent, then I'll create a 16.04 USB and boot and backup...sounds lika plan
[16:36] <swimmer_> hello g33ks, anyone knows how to allow non-root users to full operate NetworkManager (using 16.04)?
[16:36] <Biff1> Thanks, Bye bye
[16:37] <tgm4883> swimmer_: what do you mean "full operate"?
[16:37] <swimmer_> be able to (for example) connect to a wifi network
[16:37] <swimmer_> without asking for any password
[16:37] <swimmer_> and without giving sudo privileges
[16:39] <CrookedHillary> I am crooked Hillary!
[16:39] <bazhang> CrookedHillary, thats offtopic here
[16:39] <bazhang> CrookedHillary, try a chat channel not here
[16:40] <Akuli> swimmer_: my network manager does that by default on 14.04
[16:40] <CrookedHillary> I can talk about whatever I want.
[16:40] <swimmer_> my 16.06 doesn't
[16:40] <swimmer_> *16.04
[16:40] <CrookedHillary> What you going to do about it?
[16:40] <yahn> swimmer_, my 16.04 install doesn't require a root password to connect to wifi networks
[16:40] <bazhang> CrookedHillary, in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel sure
[16:41] <dax> that.
[16:42] <Akuli> i'd suggest not turning this into a linux mint kickban channel :)
[16:42] <Akuli> Ok :)
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Akuli  it's easy: make sure you don't get kicked
[16:43] <BenderRodriguez> Is virtinst required for kvm to run?
[16:43] <CrookedHillary> wtf happened
[16:43] <Akuli> dax didn't like your attitude.
[16:43] <BenderRodriguez> I'm on ubuntu server so I really don't want to install a bunch of gtk packages
[16:43] <UrbanFlash> yahn, i wanted to report in, that the driver from the website works as expected...
[16:43] <dax> you stopped being able to talk about whatever you want
[16:43] <Abe_> finally got one more dvd successfull.
[16:44] <yahn> UrbanFlash, interesting
[16:44] <CrookedHillary> k
[16:44] <UrbanFlash> it kind of feels like giving up, but i'm gonna leave it for now
[16:44] <UrbanFlash> i will play with it some more tomorrow or so
[16:44] <yahn> UrbanFlash, when you were (re)installing the nvidia driver were you doing it from the GUI?
[16:44] <yahn> ie from the additional drivers tab
[16:44] <UrbanFlash> no, that didn't work
[16:44] <yahn> or from the terminal
[16:44] <swimmer_> yahn: have you created a new user without sudo privileges and test it like that?
[16:44] <UrbanFlash> ah
[16:45] <UrbanFlash> sorry, i misunderstood
[16:45] <CrookedHillary> What do you think about canonical adding a warning this command
[16:45] <UrbanFlash> when i tried the versions in the repo or ppa i used the terminal
[16:45] <CrookedHillary> now, dont ban me
[16:45] <UrbanFlash> like i always do
[16:45] <CrookedHillary> Ill put it in quotes "rm -rf /"
[16:45] <UrbanFlash> i only checked in the gui if it detected the driver which it did
[16:45] <yahn> UrbanFlash, ah ok..super weird still
[16:45] <UrbanFlash> yeah, i'm glad i'm not the only one thinking that
[16:46] <UrbanFlash> there was another weird thing though
[16:46] <UrbanFlash> when i install 352, it automatically installs 361 as well
[16:46] <swimmer_> so, the test here is: create a new user without sudo privileges, check if can connect to a wifi without asking for password.
[16:46] <UrbanFlash> not the other way round though or with any other version
[16:46] <yahn> it gets stranger I see..
[16:46] <UrbanFlash> but that has to be a problem in the dependencies
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: thats because 352 gets redirected to 361
[16:46] <tgm4883> swimmer_: I'm assuming you mean a new wifi SSID, not one that is already configured?
[16:46] <UrbanFlash> lotuspsychje, ah ok
[16:47] <UrbanFlash> but why do i get both packages then?
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: try a sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall perhaps
[16:47] <swimmer_> tgm4883: correct. I want to give my users the ability to connect to their wifi at home without giving them sudo privileges
[16:48] <UrbanFlash> lotuspsychje, trying right now, i did just use the nvidia installer from the website though, so it might take a while to clean up
[16:48] <OerHeks> UrbanFlash, nvidia-352 is just a transitional package for nvidia-361
[16:49] <UrbanFlash> OerHeks, yep, i see that now
[16:49] <OerHeks> UrbanFlash, don't install from the nvidia site, use our drivers or the official ppa
[16:49] <UrbanFlash> didn't matter in the end
[16:49] <UrbanFlash> did you even read anything we tried the last half hour?
[16:49] <akik> that's a bit weird that the wifi configuration is shared between users
[16:49] <UrbanFlash> or me the last 3 hours?
[16:49] <UrbanFlash> because that's exactly what i tried and what failed
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: we dont all sit here on a chair waiting , no
[16:50] <UrbanFlash> then maybe such a statement is not as helpful as one might think, huh?
[16:50] <UrbanFlash> but the driver is reinstalled now with version 364
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: we trying to help you here, on facts you type right now in chat
[16:51] <UrbanFlash> yeah, you joined in, that's great
[16:51] <UrbanFlash> and i'm greatful
[16:51] <UrbanFlash> but we've been doing this here for a while
[16:51] <akik> UrbanFlash: where did you find nvidia-364 ?
[16:51] <UrbanFlash> in some ppa
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> probably ubuntu graphics ppa
[16:51] <UrbanFlash> yeah, that one
[16:52] <UrbanFlash> sry too slow with looking for the name
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: wich chipset are you on?
[16:52] <UrbanFlash> gk106 = gtx660
[16:52] <UrbanFlash> i've been on xenial since ~february and haven't had problems yet
[16:52] <Billly> C
[16:52] <Billly> F
[16:53] <UrbanFlash> and they just appeared between the shutdown yesterday and the boot today
[16:53] <Billly> My name is Billy
[16:53] <UrbanFlash> the only thing that changed yesterday was an update to ubuntu-drivers-common
[16:53] <Billly> Anyone see my friend crookedhillary
[16:54] <UrbanFlash> and the thing today was: the driver was installed (let's say version 361), built correctly and reported as "in use" by lspci and lshw
[16:54] <robco> lol
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: weird, because nvidia's site suggests 361 for your card
[16:54] <UrbanFlash> but actually X uses the gallium driver
[16:54] <UrbanFlash> it did actually suggest 304 for me
[16:54] <robco> Billly/hillary is bored
[16:54] <robco> and young, I presume
[16:54] <UrbanFlash> but everything up to 364 also lists the card as supported
[16:54] <yahn> the gtx660 has been supported for a while now
[16:55] <yahn> I wonder if the nvidia driver isn't blacklist nouveau
[16:55] <Billly> Too much time on their hands
[16:55] <yahn> blacklisting*
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> Billly: can we help you with an ubuntu problem?
[16:55] <bazhang> !ot | Billly
[16:55] <bazhang> take the chit chat somewhere else Billly
[16:56] <dax> bazhang: nothx, he's banned from it for repeated PM abuse and racism
[16:56] <UrbanFlash> should it be in the blacklists in modules.d?
[16:56] <Billly> Jesus, bruh, give me a chance to ask something
[16:56] <Billly> Any updates on AMD drivers
[16:57] <robco> ask and stop wasting space here where people are trying to be productive, Billly
[16:57] <bazhang> Billly, no
[16:57] <Billly> What space. The
[16:57] <TheMarius> any of you guys got movit working in kdenlive?
[16:57] <yahn>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[16:57] <Billly> There isn't a space limitation here
[16:57] <yahn> oops
[16:57] <yahn> it might in another conf
[16:57] <robco> ok. doing a reboot after yet another LDAP NSCD PAM config
[16:57] <UrbanFlash> i'm looking in all of them right now
[16:57] <Billly> Its not the 1980s where space is severely limited
[16:58] <robco> pray for me
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash, yahn we had several users with likewise issues today on GTX cards..smells like a new bug to me
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Billly  stop
[16:58] <lundmar> how come I can't set default application for .avi files to vlc? It insists on using totem regardless of setting default to vlc. Is this a known bug?
[16:58] <UrbanFlash> lotuspsychje, ok, that's good to know somehow
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: right mouse/properties on .avi and set vlc to default
[16:58] <UrbanFlash> i'm pretty sure the bug is in ubuntu-drivers-common then, because that was updated yesterday before i shut the pc down
[16:58] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: been there done that, it remains totem.
[16:58] <OerHeks> lundmar, just set default player to vlc, systemsettings > details > default applications
[16:59] <lundmar> de-facto: done that.
[16:59] <lundmar> something is broken.
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: aha, nice feedback..perhaps looking for an already existing xenial bug then? if not: new bug
[16:59] <UrbanFlash> yeah, but before that i'd like to have a fully working pc again...
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: sudo apt purge nvidia* to go back to nouveau
[17:00] <UrbanFlash> it's hard to reproduce something if everything reacts unexpected
[17:00] <Billly> Even if you do report the bug. There won't be a patch until yhr next release
[17:00] <UrbanFlash> nouveau is part of gallium/vesa/mesa things right?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> Billly: stop that please
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !nouveau | UrbanFlash
[17:01] <Billly> Take a look a unity. You can finally move it to the bottom after several years of refusing to implement the driver
[17:01] <Billly> *feature
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Billly
[17:01] <UrbanFlash> so, yes
[17:02] <UrbanFlash> then no, i can't use nouveau, because it gives me 2cm of black border around the screen
[17:02] <UrbanFlash> and makes all of the next nearly unlegible
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> UrbanFlash: thats very unhandy, perhaps enter desktop again with a nomodeset?
[17:03] <UrbanFlash> tried that too, didn't change anything
[17:03] <UrbanFlash> but i'll reboot now with 364 installed with ubuntu-drivers
[17:03] <UrbanFlash> brb
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> Billly  you're not in the right channel, here
[17:05] <dax> i think we covered that adequately
[17:05] <cortexman> how can I install gcc <= 4.6 in xenial?
[17:07] <TheMarius> reboot
[17:07] <cortexman> ...
[17:07] <Akuli> cortexman: download the source and compile?
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> dax  for anything higher than what's in the repos, you need a ppa or a .deb or so, but that's not suppoerted here
[17:08] <cortexman> Akuli, i'm thinking of using debian snapshots
[17:08] <Akuli> oh wait... i have no idea how to compile a c compiler :D
[17:08] <UrbanFlash> back running vesa again
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  ^^^
[17:08] <cortexman> http://snapshot.debian.org/
[17:08] <UrbanFlash> and xchat not connecting to freenode...
[17:09] <UrbanFlash> so, i can safely say no version of nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos, however i install it doesn't work
[17:09] <UrbanFlash> only the one from the website gives me accelerated graphics right now
[17:09] <UrbanFlash> xchat is finally done, brb this webchat sucks...
[17:10] <UrbanFlash_> so
[17:10] <UrbanFlash_> lotuspsychje, do you, by any chance have any more ideas what i could try?
[17:16] <Abe_> ok now i'm in the kubuntu live cd.. seems to work fine just 2 questions... things that I noticed right away...
[17:17] <Abe_> first you cannot change the size of the application launcher anymore :(
[17:17] <Abe_> is there a way to change it?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> Abe_  and the other question?
[17:19] <Abe_> Can you use Mir with Kubuntu 16.04... I have a little screen tearing always with kde. mainly I use kubuntu 14.04 and it's exactly the same issue...
[17:20] <Abe_> I am really looking forward using Mir
[17:20] <baizon> Abe_: enable vsync, kde doesnt support mir
[17:20] <baizon> Abe_: kde supports wayland
[17:20] <Abe_> oh
[17:20] <squinty> Abe_, if you are talking about icon size in the launcher, you will need to install unity-tweak to adjust the size
[17:21] <yahn> squinty, he's talking about KDE
[17:21] <Abe_> Ok how do I use wayland then... Vsync won't fix the issue.. tried that already
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> squinty  you came in too late
[17:21] <Abe_> squinty: yes i am talking about kde plasma 5
[17:21] <squinty> oops!!
[17:21] <squinty> sorry guys
[17:21] <erkan^> wow Claws Mail is faster than Thunderbird. I think that Mozilla has very problem now.
[17:21] <Abe_> How do I use wayland then :D ?
[17:22] <Abe_> if possible
[17:22] <yahn> Abe_, Wayland isn't really usable yet
[17:22] <yahn> you want to try  System Settings > Display and Monitor > Compositor - Tearing Prevention
[17:22] <yahn> and make sure that's enabled
[17:22] <yahn> for KDE
[17:22] <_maddy> I installed apache2 + php7 on 16.04, but apache is not executing my php code? I also installed libapache2-mod-php7.0
[17:23] <kevin123> did you set up php fpm?
[17:23] <_maddy> nope
[17:23] <kevin123> ok, you need something in between apache php, ie php fpm
[17:23] <_maddy> why do I need that? doesn't php just run as apache mod?
[17:23] <Abe_> ok I changed it to full screen repaints
[17:24] <_maddy> but I already installed libapache2-mod-php7.0
[17:24] <lundmar> oh my gawd, this is still an issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1177012
[17:24] <lundmar> there are so many bugs in ubuntu when you start looking at it closely :/
[17:24] <Abe_> I did this on 14.04 too but it didn't fix it either...but I have nvidia driver installed there
[17:24] <kevin123> I haven't used apache in years, but iirc you need to enable the mods
[17:25] <OerHeks> lundmar, old bug, 2013 .. solved i guess
[17:25] <yahn> Abe_, make sure you have the vsync option disabled in the nvidia driver first
[17:25] <lundmar> not solved, only confirmed.
[17:25] <_maddy> oh ok, it is executing php in /var/www, but not in my userdir
[17:25] <OerHeks> lundmar, do you encounter that bug now?
[17:26] <lundmar> OerHeks: yes, can't change defalt app from totem -> vlc
[17:26] <lundmar> default*
[17:26] <Abe_> yahn: oh I always tried both... Ok seems actually better now.. I do this Vsync test thingy online
[17:27] <Abe_> have to turn woobly windows off to see better if anything tears while moving windows :D
[17:27] <hackel> When I start a guest session, it launches a GNOME session.  Is there a way I can set this to Unity (without uninstalling GNOME shell)?
[17:28] <Akuli> maybe some lightdm setting file?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> hackel  everything you save in the guest session, is deleted when you logout, that goes for the login settings too, i'm afraid
[17:29] <Abe_> I always use this website for vsync testing https://www.vsynctester.com/
[17:30] <Ace> HEY
[17:30] <Abe_> It actually performs better then on my installed kubuntu
[17:30] <hackel> MonkeyDust: Obviously, that's not what I'm talking about.
[17:30] <matteo_> ?
[17:30] <Abe_> not perfect but a lot better
[17:30] <matteo_> exit
[17:30] <matteo_> got it
[17:31] <Abe_> oh another question... even a little more kde specific.. if somebody is using the theme "QtCurve" does it work with kubuntu 16.04?
[17:31] <Ace> EXIT
[17:32] <Abe_> I love it cause it's so highly configurable
[17:32] <Ace> Hey Everyone
[17:33] <buntunoob> Hello, I am unable to select text, be it with mouse or keyboard. The highlighted text disappears as soon as I highlight it. Any clues?
[17:33] <Abe_> but hey they did a lot on kde.. way more then lubuntu and ubuntu
[17:35] <Abe_> they improved almost everything
[17:35] <yahn> buntunoob, is this in a specific program or everywhere in Ubuntu?
[17:36] <curlyears> howdy.  If I want to reparition a s econdary HDD, can I just run parted from a term shell?
[17:36] <EriC^^> curlyears: you want to make a clean partition table?
[17:37] <curlyears> EriC^^:  no, I want my boot drive to remain as it is, I just want to re-partition my 500GB secondary drive
[17:37] <Akuli> Is there a gui for changing qt settings?
[17:37] <buntunoob> yahn, it's happening in gedit, libreoffice, and HexChat, amongst others. Firefox seems immune.
[17:38] <EriC^^> curlyears: yeah i mean a fresh partition table on the secondary one?
[17:38] <EriC^^> or just like resize partitions and create new ones in free space?
[17:38] <Akuli> buntunoob: what's the problem?
[17:38] <curlyears> right, EriC^^
[17:38] <yahn> buntunoob, are you using a clipboard tool?
[17:38] <EriC^^> curlyears: right what?
[17:38] <Akuli> oh, i scrolled up and read it :D
[17:39] <curlyears> a freshly partitioned drive
[17:39] <EriC^^> curlyears: ok, run sudo gdisk /dev/sdX for gpt, and sudo fdisk /dev/sdX for mbr
[17:39] <buntunoob> yahn, no clipboard tool.
[17:39] <EriC^^> then press "o" to make a clean partition table, and "w" to write it
[17:39] <EriC^^> curlyears: then use sudo cgdisk /dev/sdX or sudo cfdisk /dev/sdX to partition it if you want to use the terminal for that
[17:40] <buntunoob> Akuli, text won't select.
[17:40] <Akuli> i'd use fdisk for partitioning
[17:40] <Akuli> sudo fdisk /dev/sdX
[17:40] <yahn> buntunoob, does the problem persist if you use the shift+arrow keys to try to select text?
[17:40] <buntunoob> yahn, yes.
[17:41] <Akuli> Any answers to my qt question?
[17:41] <buntunoob> yahn, hitting ctrl+a selects and then almost immediately unselects the text.
[17:41] <Mitch> hi
[17:41] <yahn> buntunoob, stupid question, have you got anything pressing down on any of the keys of your keyboard?
[17:41] <erkan^> Is Canonical search to an alternative mail program after Mozilla stops support for Thunderbird?
[17:42] <Guest75426> hello?
[17:42] <buntunoob> yahn, negative, but I can try replugging the USB keyboard.
[17:42] <Abe_> So when is Wayland "quite ready" ?
[17:42] <yahn> buntunoob, I'd give it a shot
[17:42] <yahn> or
[17:42] <yahn> disconnecting the keyboard and trying the mouse
[17:42] <yahn> and vice versa
[17:42] <Abe_> I know seemingly never ships xD waiting years now ?
[17:42] <OerHeks> Abe_, who knows, ubuntu goes for MIR
[17:42] <buntunoob> yahn, no go.
[17:42] <Guest75426> im new
[17:42] <OerHeks> Abe_, but you know that already
[17:42] <davido_> !ot |Guest75426
[17:43] <Abe_> OerHeks: yes but I am more of the KDE guy... not a real fan of unity
[17:43] <Guest75426> Can i have a large peperoni pizza
[17:43] <OerHeks> Abmaybe you better ask in #kubuntu then?
[17:43] <curlyears> OK, thanks
[17:44] <Abe_> OerHeks: they almost never answer xD
[17:44] <curlyears> now, how do I access this drive in the shell (I know hoe to access it from gnome nautilus
[17:44] <yahn> buntunoob, no idea sorry, google search fails me too
[17:45] <buntunoob> yahn, thanks buddy.
[17:45] <ioria> buntunoob, virtual machine ?
[17:45] <yahn> buntunoob, oh, are using English(US) as your language?
[17:45] <yahn> are you*
[17:45] <curlyears> EriC^^?
[17:46] <yahn> I wonder if changing the input language might help
[17:46] <wikideer> Why must XChat keep putting me here
[17:47] <Guest75426> Can I have some large fries?
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | wikideer
[17:47] <wikideer> I am using 12.04LTS
[17:47] <wikideer> On an ARM device
[17:47] <wikideer> >.<
[17:47] <curlyears> hexchat is an IRC client, yes?
[17:48] <EriC^^> curlyears: did you create partitions on it?
[17:48] <wikideer> So getting hexchat means upgrading my system
[17:48] <catbeard> an inferior one, yes
[17:48] <curlyears> Eric^:  yes
[17:48] <catbeard> get weechat, it's worth the setup
[17:48] <OerHeks> wikideer, 12.04 is EOL
[17:48] <wikideer> I know it is
[17:48] <wikideer> But it's what ships with crouton
[17:48] <EriC^^> curlyears: create a filesystem on the partition ( mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdxY )
[17:48] <yahn> 12.04 is not EOL
[17:48] <OerHeks> wikideer, then you know the answer
[17:48] <catbeard> should i upgrade to 16.04 from 15.10 ?
[17:48] <yahn> wait
[17:49] <Abe_> Ohh how to you turn widgets around.. in 14.04 you can rotate them ?
[17:49] <curlyears> Eric^^:  I can get to it by looking in /media/uname and copy and pasting the huge ID nnumber, but that is REALLY tedious
[17:49] <Abe_> d*
[17:49] <yahn> no, 12.04 is not EOL
[17:49] <yahn> you can select what version of Ubuntu you want in crouton
[17:49] <EriC^^> curlyears: you already made a filesystem there?
[17:50] <wikideer> I couldn't figure out how to do it
[17:50] <wikideer> And I just got it to my liking
[17:50] <EriC^^> curlyears: use tab completion, cd /media/name<tab>/first letter<tab>
[17:50] <wikideer> So I will just pout
[17:50] <yahn> sh ~/Downloads/crouton -r list
[17:50] <wikideer> Already have it all set up
[17:50] <wikideer> Too much work atm to undo it
[17:51] <yahn> fair enough
[17:52] <mac__> hello
[17:54] <tim241> hi
[17:55] <buntunoob> ioria, negative.
[17:55] <buntunoob> yahn, yes.
[17:55] <curlyears> EriC^^:  /dev/sdb is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[17:56] <Kamila> Is it easy to use looks after installation, or would it be easier to reinstall and then dd the partition afterwards?
[17:57] <Kamila> luks*
[17:57] <yahn> buntunoob, I'm out of ideas with that one sorry
[17:58] <curlyears> I had to get up in the middle of the night (07:30 AM)  to go grocery shopping today.  I think I need a nap
[17:58] <poorUser> hi people! do you know what happened to keepass? is no more into ubuntu software center... :(
[17:59] <tim241> should I trust a system procces to get root acces?
[17:59] <Akuli> poorUser: apt-cache search keepass
[17:59] <yahn> poorUser, keepass2 and keepassx are still available in the default repositories
[17:59] <curlyears> sudo apt-get search cura
[17:59] <poorUser> i see in the site
[17:59] <Akuli> curlyears: you probably meant apt-cache, and apt-cache doesn't need sudo.
[17:59] <hackel> poorUser: I would use jtaylor's ppa for keepass2.
[18:00] <poorUser> but isn't shown in the graphical software manager
[18:00] <poorUser> k hackel
[18:00] <yahn> though I can confirm that they don't show up in the software center
[18:00] <yahn> hackel, who is jtaylor?
[18:00] <x-fak> hi
[18:00] <hackel> yahn: The person who maintains the keepass2 PPA. :)
[18:01] <yahn> I wouldn't install security software from 3rd party ppa's
[18:01] <wikideer> I just have a notebook with my passwords
[18:01] <poorUser> yahn: i've used it for a lot of years, do you suggest something better?
[18:02] <curlyears> wikideer:   extremely insecure
[18:02] <wikideer> Hardly
[18:02] <yahn> poorUser, I just mean I think it's bad practice security-wise to trust PPA's maintained by third parties
[18:02] <nomoney4u2> question: i installed the firmware-b43-installer  last night and it went great, i was able to see my network.  today - i dont see anything. iwlist wlan1 s shows no result. :( any ideas?
[18:02] <yahn> the reality is I'm sure it's fine
[18:02] <hackel> yahn: Fair point, though the source files are available to build the package yourself.
[18:02] <nikjon> hi
[18:02] <yahn> hackel, that's true :)
[18:03] <poorUser> ok as general talking you are right. We should add to this discussion SSL developers
[18:03] <poorUser> :D
[18:03] <curlyears> wikideer:  one should never write passwords down
[18:03] <wikideer> With a physical book of passwords I can and have created my own scripts so that they are not readable by anyone but me
[18:04] <wikideer> So good luck using them :/
[18:04] <hackel> Passwords should be so difficult that writing them down (and re-typing them accurately) would be almost impossible.
[18:04] <yahn> the diceware method is excellent
[18:04] <yahn> I remember my diceware passwords too
[18:04] <wikideer> I tend to stick with 24 character passwords
[18:05] <wikideer> Which aren't exactly hard to type
[18:05] <poorUser> what do you have to protect? nuclear silos? :D
[18:05] <curlyears> I don't evn try to remember my password.   I use a mental algorith the generate it when I need it.  It is highly unlikely to be guessed at by anyone
[18:05] <poorUser> 6-8 char mixed are strongly enough for bank apps too :D
[18:06] <curlyears> my passwqord is 10 chars
[18:06] <wikideer> I am not guarding anything important
[18:06] <hackel> wikideer: That's quite short, but even so, once you start throwing spaces and special look-alike characters in there, it can start to get challenging.
[18:06] <wikideer> I just really like the number 24
[18:06] <poorUser> if you use 1 password hard password for all is more weak than a lot of minipassword
[18:06] <wikideer> I just use ASCII 256 characters
[18:06] <poorUser> with a password manager you limit the attack to your own pc compromised
[18:07] <curlyears> hackel:  "look-alike characters?"
[18:07] <wikideer> Each account and site has it's own 24 character password
[18:07] <poorUser> and if it is comprosimed every password / security method it is
[18:07] <hackel> curlyears: Like l I 1 - – — things like that.
[18:07] <wikideer> I don't keep my passwords on my computer
[18:07] <curlyears> hackel:  OK, that's what I thought you meant
[18:08] <wikideer> So I don't even have to worry about it being compromised
[18:08] <hackel> Reminds me of when I found my dad's password notebook...  Almost all of them were identical and included his first name.  Argh!
[18:08] <poorUser> also do you feel secure with your 20 char pwd? :D i would worry about bugs
[18:09] <curlyears> I've got several GBs worth of .stl files, for 3D printing nnumerous different objects
[18:09] <wikideer> I feel secure enough
[18:09] <wikideer> Nothing that can really hurt me is online
[18:09] <wikideer> I don't have credit cards, online banking, paypal, etc
[18:10] <azizLIGHT> how come i cant see some unicode characters
[18:10] <wikideer> And everything that accepts it has 2FA
[18:10] <azizLIGHT> they appear as letters in a bx
[18:10] <azizLIGHT> *box
[18:10] <wikideer> You don't have the charset installed
[18:10] <wikideer> "language pack"
[18:10] <Art220> hello! has anyone looked at the Samba update that was pushed out today?  Am I allowed to post a link to the Ubuntu page?
[18:10] <hackel> azizLIGHT: Not all fonts contain every unicode block.
[18:10] <curlyears> off
[18:11] <poorUser> i have all online, bills shopping etc...
[18:11] <wikideer> Online banking in my mind is a bad idea
[18:12] <wikideer> Especially when the actual bank is just down the street
[18:12] <poorUser> and a "weak" password compared to yours :D
[18:12] <hackel> Online banking in my mind is the only kind of banking that should even exist.  I can't imagine having to talk to an actual person all the time. *shudder*
[18:12] <poorUser> is more probable to be robben on the street that not online
[18:12] <hackel> It bothers me that banks waste their money on staff that could be going to me in higher interest rates.
[18:12] <poorUser> + banks have 128 bit key gen
[18:13] <Art220> The supposed fix for the Samba issue that has been a big topic on Ubuntu forums has been pushed out in today's update. http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2950-2/
[18:13] <wikideer> I really doubt someone is going to rob me on the way to the bank xD
[18:13] <dax> back to ubuntu support please, folks
[18:13] <poorUser> you should worry about derivatives shares... :D
[18:14] <poorUser> yeah, i've installed keepass2 from terminal, the software center doesn't show a lot of software
[18:14] <Art220> so, I apply the samba fix in autoupdate and still I cannot log into samba shares. I ran dpkg -s samba-libs and it returned the Version 2:4.3.9+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
[18:15] <Art220> so I think its applied
[18:15] <trevor_s> so... ubuntu gnome doesn't have the classic gnome GUI?
[18:15] <trevor_s> is there any way to get that?
[18:15] <Art220> if it helps, I did a fresh install the other night and have done nothing to the samba files as I was waiting for the official fix
[18:15] <trevor_s> where the appliation menu is on the top left, etc
[18:15] <wikideer> Is Xubuntu official?
[18:16] <tgm4883> wikideer: yes
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | wikideer
[18:16] <wikideer> Kool
[18:16] <dax> trevor_s: might want to look into MATE, it's a fork of GNOME 2 that looks pretty much the same as it
[18:16] <techkid6> So, I've been here all week asking about crons tuff, so, one more question... I have a script that generates tabs, where should I put those tabs, as the user running the script won't be able to put them in the crontabs directory as a system tab, but I also don't wanna overwrite the user's tab
[18:17] <OerHeks> !info classicmenu-indicator
[18:18] <tgm4883> techkid6: not really an answer to your question, but I'm assuming you've already thought about just adding the line to the users crontab? (rather than overwriting files)
[18:18] <hackel> poorUser: Both keepassx and keepass2 show up for me in USC on 16.04 (first time I've launched it, actually...doesn't look any different than what I remember).
[18:18] <hackel> poorUser: Do you have universe enabled?
[18:19] <techkid6> tgm4883: Yeah, but the script very naively removes everything in there as it resets itself (it is piggybacking off cron as a potential scheduler)
[18:19] <techkid6> right now I have it just using a user crontab though
[18:19] <Chic0_SevillA> hola buenas
[18:19] <techkid6> I could make a user for it, but thats a bit much I think.
[18:20] <techkid6> because the user needs to have a full environment (X11 and all)
[18:20] <tgm4883> techkid6: I've not followed along all week, so I don't know the use case.
[18:21] <techkid6> tgm4883: Essentially, I am doing a bunch of work on some school bells, so I have a way of going from a scheduler format to a series of cronjobs
[18:21] <techkid6> tgm4883: I figure, instead of writing my own scheduler, using cron would be easier because it is an established application, etc.  why reinvent the wheel
[18:21] <tgm4883> techkid6: school bells?
[18:22] <techkid6> tgm4883: Yes, they're audible, running through a PA system
[18:22] <techkid6> between periods and whatnot
[18:22] <Whir> Hi, I (still) have a problem with my package system
[18:22] <tgm4883> techkid6: ah, so this would actually be running the bell system
[18:22] <Whir> apt-get upgrade gives
[18:22] <techkid6> tgm4883: Yep, it would be executing the script to ring the bells
[18:22] <Whir> http://pastebin.com/LYH1Hs6f
[18:23] <tgm4883> techkid6: and it needs a full X11 environment?
[18:23] <Whir> and  apt-get -f install
[18:23] <techkid6> tgm4883: For mpg123 I think it needs to have an X environment yeah
[18:23] <techkid6> I could switch from mpg123
[18:23] <techkid6> It was just the easiest thing to test with
[18:23] <Whir> http://pastebin.com/54zJ0fkL
[18:24] <Akuli> Whir: sudo apt-get install --reinstall samba-common samba-libs ?
[18:24] <Akuli> actually
[18:24] <Akuli> sudo apt-get install --reinstall samba-common samba-libs smbclient
[18:25] <Whir> Akuli: OK i try
[18:25] <Whir> E: Internal Error, No file name for samba-libs:amd64
[18:25] <Akuli> ok, that explains something
[18:26] <Akuli> but i dont know, i just reinstalled it :D
[18:26] <Whir> Akuli: this samba client is very resilient...I can not remove it
[18:26] <Akuli> hmm
[18:27] <Akuli> oh right
[18:27] <genii> You might want to sudo apt-get update first
[18:27] <Akuli> You could use dpkg --force-all to remove it... but that's probably a really bad idea
[18:27] <Akuli> try genii's suggestion
[18:27] <Whir> genii: I did that of course
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> Whir: did you add ppa's or manual packages install?
[18:28] <Whir> lotuspsychje: No I did not..never actually used samba..solved my needs with NFS
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> Whir: wich ubuntu version are you on mate?
[18:30] <Whir> lotuspsychje: 14.04
[18:30] <poorUser> hackel: yes, and even partners enabled
[18:31] <donofrio> anyone ever had a install where you get wifi working and you have list ten AP shown but three are greyed out and one of the greyed out selections is "my AP?"
[18:32] <hackel> poorUser: You've chosen "All software" on the view menu, not just Canonical maintained software?  Just grasping at ideas at this point.
[18:32] <OerHeks> donofrio, make a screenshot, likely the not-greyed out are openwifi
[18:33] <poorUser> hackel: yes :(
[18:33] <donofrio> no it's something weird with this machine or something other installs shows all
[18:33] <donofrio> I'll screenshot and show
[18:33] <poorUser> hackel: application not found :(
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> Whir: perhaps go for Akuli's idea, force purge with dpkg, then try sudo apt-get update
[18:34] <donofrio> lubuntu what is the screenshot app?
[18:34] <Whir> lotuspsychje: ok i try
[18:34] <Whir> what is the line exactly_
[18:34] <Whir> ?
[18:34] <OerHeks> donofrio, just press prt-screen
[18:34] <oshogun> greetings and salutations
[18:34] <Art220> Whir, are you working on the samba issue? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2950-2/
[18:35] <hackel> poorUser: I just realized I was still using the old Ubuntu Software Center, I thought that had been removed from 16.04.  Are you using GNOME Software?
[18:35] <hackel> poorUser: I installed GNOME Software, and I also do not find it there. Sounds like a potential bug to me.
[18:35] <Whir> Art220: ummh..hard to tell
[18:36] <Whir> so I was not aware of that problem
[18:36] <oshogun> does anyone here use i3wm?
[18:36] <poorUser> hackel: yes i think the same, some other packets are not shown, but are aviable via apt-get...
[18:37] <Akuli> sudo dpkg --force-all --purge smbclient
[18:37] <Akuli> but don't do it just yet
[18:37] <Akuli> oops wrong channel :D
[18:37] <Whir> Akuli: : what is the dpkg --force-all line exactly?
[18:37] <Akuli> or wait.. Right channel :D
[18:37] <Whir> Akuli: oops
[18:37] <Whir> Akuli: sorry, didnt see
[18:37] <Akuli> Anyway
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> Whir: http://askubuntu.com/questions/525088/how-to-delete-broken-packages-in-ubuntu
[18:38] <hackel> poorUser: If you just want a graphical solution, you can still install (Ubuntu) software-center or (even better in my opinion) Synapic.
[18:38] <Akuli> run sudo apt-get install --download-only smbclient first
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> oshogun: there's a handy #i3 channel if you want
[18:38] <Akuli> because i want to be sure you have it downloaded so you won't break your system like i did :D
[18:38] <Whir> Akuli: ok I have it
[18:39] <Akuli> so its downloaded?
[18:39] <Whir> Akuli: that does not work
[18:39] <Akuli> then i guess we're ready to purge.
[18:39] <Akuli> hmm
[18:39] <Whir> so I mean the dpkg -purge
[18:39] <Whir> here is the output:
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Whir  use a pastebin
[18:39] <Whir> http://pastebin.com/ZXkKkXn6
[18:39] <poorUser> hackel: i'm used with both, i thought something happened to the packet itself, but if is just a temporary bug it's not a problem
[18:40] <Whir> MonkeyDust: no worries ;]
[18:40] <Akuli> MonkeyDust: just in time :)
[18:40] <tgm4883> Whir: which ubuntu version is this?
[18:40] <Akuli> hmm
[18:40] <Whir> tgm4883: 14.04
[18:41] <Akuli> let's try reinstall first
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Whir  do you want to purge a removed app? try sudo aptitude purge ~c
[18:41] <Akuli> sudo apt-get install --reinstall smbclient
[18:41] <Whir> Akuli: same error
[18:41] <donofrio> OerHeks, apaste.info/Hii
[18:41] <Akuli> oh right...
[18:41] <Whir>  unable to install (supposed) new info file `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sums': Is a directory
[18:42] <Akuli> i'd suggest you rm the directory manually
[18:42] <tgm4883> Whir: do this
[18:42] <tgm4883> Well don't do that yet
[18:42] <Akuli> sudo rm -r /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sum which is probably a really bad idea.
[18:42] <Akuli> really bad.
[18:42] <tgm4883> Akuli: yea dont' tell people to do bad things?
[18:42] <Akuli> doing my best
[18:42] <Whir> lol
[18:43] <hackel> poorUser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1562158
[18:43] <tgm4883> I'd like to see this first
[18:43] <scatterp> EriC^^: hey dude you here i figured it out!
[18:43] <tgm4883> "dpkg -S /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sums"
[18:43] <tgm4883> and also "dpkg -S /var/lib/dpkg/info/smbclient.md5sums"
[18:44] <scatterp> can any one help me out with getting ubuntu desktop to run properly or debuging the problem when i boot i get a login screen i choose a user and then i get a blank screen ubuntu 14.04
[18:44] <tgm4883> Akuli: I mean, it's probably going to come to that anyway, but we should check if the file is owned by anything else first
[18:44] <scatterp> could i just reinstall it maybe ?
[18:44] <just_someone>  Hey hi! Someone know why my headset bluethoot didn't connect to my Ubuntu phone?
[18:44] <Akuli> tgm4883: good idea.
[18:44] <scatterp> note blank screen has a mouse pointer :)
[18:44] <Whir> tgm4883: so for the first:
[18:44] <Whir> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sums
[18:44] <Whir> for the 2nd the same
[18:45] <Akuli> scatterp: you can press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a terminal world
[18:45] <poorUser> hackel: tnk now is +2 with this problem :D me and flocculant
[18:45] <Whir> Akuli: hrhr
[18:45] <Whir> terminal *only* world
[18:46] <donofrio> anyone ever had a install where you get wifi working and you have list ten AP shown but three are greyed out and one of the greyed out selections is "my AP?" looks like http://apaste.info/Hii machine info http://apaste.info/VX3
[18:46] <skyfall> join/anonops
[18:46] <scatterp> Akuli: yeah there seems to be a desktop there in a simular state no idea why how ever ctrl alt f2-6 works fine
[18:46] <tgm4883> Akuli: Whir have you guys tried forcing the package removal yet?
[18:46] <Akuli> Whir: we all have 6 of them and 1 gui wold :D
[18:46] <Akuli> Whir: the terminal worlds are called tty's
[18:46] <Akuli> tgm4883: yes, and failed
[18:46] <Akuli> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/ZXkKkXn6
[18:46] <tgm4883> wonky
[18:47] <Akuli> that's where the directory error came from
[18:47] <tgm4883> Akuli: Whir ok, I'm on board with just deleting the directory then
[18:47] <Whir> Whir: allright
[18:47] <Akuli> sudo rm -r /var/lib/dpkg/info/smbclient.md5sums
[18:47] <poorUser> hackel: funny joke, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/keepass2/ says "it's aviable from the sofware center" :D
[18:47] <Whir> did it
[18:47] <Whir> apt-get update?
[18:47] <Akuli> now try purging again
[18:47] <wikideer> Are MD5 hashes "secure"
[18:47] <donofrio> CellSpot_2.4 is MY AP why is it greyed out?
[18:47] <wikideer> Or can they be broken
[18:48] <Whir> Akuli: yeah, it burnt
[18:48] <tgm4883> wikideer: you mean spoofed?
[18:48] <wikideer> Spoofed, reversed, etc
[18:48] <scatterp> any one got any idea how i can repair my desktop im stuck in cmdline ubuntu 14.04 ..
[18:48] <Whir> Akuli: tgm4883 now update?
[18:48] <tgm4883> wikideer: yes, md5 is bad
[18:48] <Akuli> yes
[18:49] <Akuli> i doubt we have an md5 failure :)
[18:49] <Akuli> I think we really should have looked into that directory before removing it
[18:49] <tgm4883> Akuli: that wasn't directed to you or Whir :)
[18:49] <donofrio> anyone ever seen AP's be greyed out when you click networking to select your wifi
[18:50] <Whir> Akuli: ah..libssl update, finally
[18:50] <Whir> had this problem for quite some time :/
[18:51] <Whir> tgm4883: Akulo, thx guys..I think it's fixed or shall I try to reinstall samba?
[18:52] <dax> wikideer: it depends on what you're trying to protect against
[18:52] <Akuli> yes, reinstall what you just purged :)
[18:53] <wikideer> I am think more along the lines of password hashing
[18:53] <wikideer> Not file digests
[18:53] <dax> wikideer: you shouldn't use standard hash functions for password hashing. look into bcrypt and friends
[18:53] <Whir> Akuli: worked :)
[18:53] <Akuli> Nice
[18:54] <Whir> k1l: hey, we fixed that smbclient package problem :)
[18:54] <wikideer> I use SHA-512
[18:54] <wikideer> SHA3-512*
[18:57] <donofrio> anyone ever had a install where you get wifi working and you have list ten AP shown but three are greyed out and one of the greyed out selections is "my AP?" looks like http://apaste.info/Hii machine info http://apaste.info/VX3
[18:57] <pat_> I think the most overlooked thing with hashs is that you are supposed to run them over and over again. http://security.stackexchange.com/a/18023
[18:58] <dax> or use a key derivation function like bcrypt that is nice and slow
[18:58] <pat_> yes
[18:59] <donofrio> anyone have greyed out wifi AP's but others are clickable?
[19:00] <donofrio> so close to being able to unplug this machines network cable but not if I cannot select my AP
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> donofrio  that's a yes/no question
[19:01] <wikideer> Bcrypt is better hands down
[19:01] <donofrio> MonkeyDust, ?
[19:01] <wikideer> But for test apps I just SAH3-512 it
[19:01] <davido_> wikideer :http://security.blogoverflow.com/2013/09/about-secure-password-hashing/
[19:01] <wikideer> Why would you put a : infront of the link
[19:01] <donofrio> I guess better question is how do I fix this greying of AP's
[19:02] <wikideer> brb
[19:04] <stacks88> i got a ubuntu security notice USN-2959-1 saying openssl vulnerabilities. I run ubuntu 14.04. now i see on my servers that these two packages were auto updated: libssl1.0.0, openssl -- because ive got unattended upgrades setup and it emails me every time it updates new packages. and the subject of the email had "[reboot required]" in it.. my question is do i really have to reboot my servers
[19:04] <stacks88> over these 2 packages, or is there a way to reload/refresh things so to speak ? I am running php5, apache2 and mysql
[19:05] <dax> run sudo checkinstall, from the debian-goodies package
[19:05] <dax> it'll attempt to figure out what running processes are using stuff that's been updated
[19:06] <stacks88> oh interesting, didnt know about that
[19:06] <ioria> stacks88, usually it's enough to restart the services ....
[19:07] <stratos> i just restarted apache
[19:07] <terratoma> perhaps ubuntu kickstart does not have a logging option in %post
[19:08] <ioria> stacks88, all the services related to ssl, i guess
[19:09] <Joschii> hi
[19:11] <spid3rMin3> trying to connect a virtual machine to a putty
[19:11] <spid3rMin3> virtual machine is set to bridged
[19:12] <spid3rMin3> $ ethtool eth0    gives me "no device found"
[19:12] <EriC^^> scatterp: hey
[19:12] <spid3rMin3> while NAT works fine
[19:12] <EriC^^> scatterp: what was it?
[19:14] <donofrio> anyone know of a workaround for my wifi working and I have list ten AP shown but three are greyed out and one of the greyed out selections is "my AP?" looks like http://apaste.info/Hii machine info http://apaste.info/VX3 thoughts?
[19:14] <spid3rMin3> I set my virtual machine to "brdged connection" in order to connect it to a putty, the connection appears but no internet access is available
[19:15] <geirha> spid3rMin3: give it two interfaces, one bridged, one nat
[19:16] <ioria> donofrio, you can try to stop NM and  use wicd ....
[19:16] <ioria> !info wicd | donofrio
[19:19] <debug0x1> ioria: Would this help if the wifi keeps loosing connection?
[19:20] <rgxp> can someone explain this to me #pause(){ read -n1 -rsp $'any key...\n' } ?
[19:20] <debug0x1> I tried changing the MTU, that kind of helped.
[19:20] <debug0x1> Still goes randomly down.
[19:20] <tgm4883> rgxp: well in bash, it's a comment because of the #
[19:20] <rgxp> yeah but i mean the meaning of it
[19:21] <ioria> debug0x1, sorry about that... sometimes, yes
[19:21] <tgm4883> rgxp: comments are usually used to explain a particular piece of code in an easy to understand language
[19:22] <rgxp> no i put the # there.. i need someone to explain the code to me if possible
[19:23] <rgxp> ive tried it and it returns main.sh .. but what is the point
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> rgxp  if ypu don't get an answe here, try irn the coding languag's channel
[19:23] <tgm4883> rgxp: well, assuming it is bash (since you didn't specify what language it was in) I would assume that it's pausing output until someone presses a key
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[19:24] <tgm4883> rgxp: but this kinda feels like homework, so...
[19:25] <rgxp> so if i understand it correctly the code could stop flooding of text for example?
[19:25] <rgxp> or loops
[19:25] <tgm4883> rgxp: IDK, try puting it in one and finding out
[19:26] <rgxp> alright thank you
[19:26] <theadimar21> Hello everyone! I would like to ask for help: I updated my Ubuntu from 15.10 to 16.04 today, and during the process the outer frames of windows disappeared, as well as the upper bar (with time, logout, battery etc.). Also ALT+TAB combo doesn't work. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:26] <delluser> It sounds to me a window manager issue.  Maybe resources are overlapping.  My guess.
[19:27] <delluser> <- doesn't think he can fix it
[19:27] <yeats> theadimar21: there are some hidden ("dot") directories in your home directory (.config, .gconf, etc.) - you might try renaming those, then logging out/back in
[19:28] <yeats> theadimar21: I often have to do that after in-place upgrades like that
[19:28] <tgm4883> rather than renaming dot directories. First I would try logging in as a guest user
[19:28] <yeats> tgm4883: theadimar21: yeah, that's a good test
[19:28] <tgm4883> it's easier to do and less risk of breaking stuff further :)
[19:28] <theadimar21> yes, I tried it before and everything works in guest user
[19:29] <yeats> well, you can always rename directories back to what they were, too
[19:29] <Akuli> Oh crap
[19:29] <tgm4883> theadimar21: do you have a bunch of customization for your user?
[19:29] <Akuli> once i was helping someone and we needed to do something from the guest user, now i realized we could have used su to log in as the normal user :D
[19:29] <tgm4883> yeats: true, but there are a lot of those directories and you'd have to touch all of them
[19:30] <Akuli> or a text-based tty ofc
[19:30] <theadimar21> tgm4883: do you have anything specific on mind? I have a custom splash screen
[19:30] <yeats> theadimar21: you might consider moving your /home/youractualusername directory then logging out/back in, then copy over the files/dirs you need - I often do that
[19:30] <tgm4883> theadimar21: well I think you've got two options. A) Try to fix the issue with your current user, or B) Create a new user and just copy over your data files
[19:31] <tgm4883> or what yeats said :)
[19:31] <yeats> tgm4883: theadimar21: that's even better
[19:31] <OerHeks> Akuli, i think you cannot sudo su from a guest account.
[19:31] <tgm4883> OerHeks: you don't need to sudo, just 'su - username'
[19:31] <theadimar21>  tgm4883: yeats: Yeah, it's a solution
[19:31] <delluser> lol that sounds like what I used to do in Windows.  Migrating user files over to different accounts..
[19:31] <Akuli> not sudo su, but su myusername
[19:31] <theadimar21> I will try to fix this though :)
[19:31] <theadimar21> thank you anyways!
[19:31] <Akuli> OerHeks: by the way, sudo -i does the same as sudo su
[19:32] <Ben64> Akuli: no
[19:32] <OerHeks> tgm4883, Akuli oh, without sudo
[19:32] <Ben64> 'sudo su' is bad
[19:32] <EriC^^> i dont think the guest has access to su
[19:32] <EriC^^> it's pretty locked down
[19:32] <tgm4883> 'sudo -i' is the preferred way
[19:32] <nicolo> ciao
[19:32] <nicolo> !listù
[19:32] <tgm4883> EriC^^: you might be right. Could always switch TTY to do it too
[19:32] <nicolo> !list
[19:32] <akik> the correct form is "sudo su -"
[19:32] <OerHeks> i know about sudo -i, but the guest account is heavily tweaked.
[19:32] <EriC^^> tgm4883: yeah
[19:32] <Akuli> tgm4883: right, probably a lot better
[19:33] <Akuli> OerHeks: i'm too interested in this, let me try out on my laptop
[19:34] <EriC^^> i think the easiest thing to do to troubleshoot these kind of stuff is have the user use irssi from a tty, and have him run /exec <command> in his irssi so he doesn't have to copy links back and forth
[19:34] <EriC^^> or maybe just like /exec -o something | pastebinit
[19:34] <rubiksmomo_> Could someone please tell me why it takes almost 30min for the login screen to appear when using nvidia driver?
[19:35] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo_, on 16.04?
[19:36] <rubiksmomo_> 14.04.4   64bit
[19:36] <Akuli> ok, the guest session doesn't allow logging in as me :)
[19:37] <rubiksmomo_> GeForce GTX 960M + Intel with nvidia-352.
[19:37] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo_, oke, 14.04 has got no systemD, so "systemd-analyze plot "is useless.
[19:37] <rubiksmomo_> Should I upgrade?
[19:37] <Akuli> whaaat i can't do UID=0 in bash :D
[19:39] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo_, you could try again with bootchart enabled, to see where it actually hangs
[19:39] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> rubiksmomo_  did your system work, before whatever you changed?
[19:39] <rubiksmomo_> MonkeyDust, Always worked with XOrg. Always had blank screen or login loop with nvidia.
[19:40] <EriC^^> rubiksmomo_: try booting without quiet splash and see what it shows
[19:40] <backbox> hey?
[19:40] <rubiksmomo_> EriC^^, I removed them already. Nothing, just black blank screen for login. After 15-30min the login screen will appear.
[19:41] <EriC^^> rubiksmomo_: check dmesg
[19:41] <rubiksmomo_> I could hear the login sound effect, but nothing on screen
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> !backbox | backbox
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> 'autistici', nice
[19:42] <backbox> can some tell me what the best way is to learn everything there is to know about backbox ?
[19:42] <OerHeks> backbox, step 1. join their channel
[19:43] <backbox> just a way to start
[19:43] <tgm4883> lol
[19:44] <tgm4883> OerHeks wins
[19:44] <backbox> hey
[19:44] <rubiksmomo_> EriC^^, Could you have a look at my dmesg please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16225201/
[19:44] <ReScO> amavis can't access any perl scripts, why?
[19:44] <backbox> omg your fuck dude
[19:44] <tgm4883> !ohmy | backbox
[19:44] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Hybrid graphics. Are nvidia-setting and nvidia-prime installed ? is the control config file /etc/X11/Xorg.conf present, and does it show nvidia as active ?
[19:45] <HackerII>  /j #007
[19:46] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om, Welcome back. :) I believe they are installed. I selected Nvidia/Performance in Nvidia settings. Yes, xorg.conf is now present and stays present during boot.
[19:47] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om, xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/16225295/
[19:47] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: verify installed from ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia '.
[19:48] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om, They are present: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16225310/
[19:49] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om, The strange thing is that I get the login screen if I wait like 20-30min
[19:51] <rubiksmomo_> The last line on dmesg is: [ 2086.629893] vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device
[19:51] <ReScO> amavis can't access any perl scripts, getting all kinds of permission denied errors, any clue what's going on?
[19:54] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: I see no faults. Nvidia recommends the 361 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us . Ya want to try it and see what results ?
[19:54] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om, I've tried it many times.
[19:55] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om, it's same black/blank screen. I think the login screen will appear in 30min time.
[19:56] <street_hassle> Hi, I joined a domain using "realm" on ubuntu 14.04 and it is now saying that I am joined to the domain using (verified with realm list), however I cannot login with a domain account - it says authentication failure.  Furthermore usind "id" fails to find any domain users.  So it looks like the machine cannot resolve any ad users.  Thoughts on how to fix this?
[19:57] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Then, I know of nothing else in my tool box . Are all packages in a consistemt state ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?
[19:57] <ioria> rubiksmomo_, suspicious line is "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel." asd "nvidia: module verification failed:"
[19:57] <ioria> *s
[19:57] <rubiksmomo_> oh
[19:58] <lwizardl> So I installed xubuntu 16.04 amd64 in my system 2 days ago and then transfered data to and from a external drive a few times and now the usb drive is saying structure needs cleaning and refuses to mount. the filesystem I used before was ext4 on it. What options do I have to remount the drive so I can recover my data?
[19:58] <ioria> rubiksmomo_, not sure but could be a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1310406
[19:58] <ReScO> I'm getting the following error: Starting amavisd: Problem in Amavis::DB or Amavis::DB::SNMP code: Can't locate UNIVERSAL.pm:   Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/BerkeleyDB.pm line 767.
[19:58] <street_hassle> lwizardl: fsck
[19:59] <Toxmi> I'm using SSD for my OS partition, does it need any extra care? I mean do I need to do sth?
[20:00] <Bashing-om> lwizardl: That external drive NTFS file system ? and perhaps not "safely unmounted" at some point ?
[20:01] <rubiksmomo_> Interesting. kernel-fixed-upstream regression-release.
[20:01] <ReScO> I'm getting the following error: Starting amavisd: Problem in Amavis::DB or Amavis::DB::SNMP code: Can't locate UNIVERSAL.pm:   Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/BerkeleyDB.pm line 767. and http://pastie.org/private/bf4gyhiqmyj9y19ats9d5q#16-18
[20:01] <lwizardl> Bashing-om, the drive has ext4 file system not ntfs, I used unmount volume when i removed the drive. it had the popup saying safe to remove
[20:04] <Bashing-om> lwizardl: Wlp, do not know what to advise .
[20:05] <lwizardl> is there a way to force mount or will that chance damage the data? I have data I can not replace on it
[20:08] <Bashing-om> lwizardl: One can manually mount the drive from terminal .. maybe get some hints there of what the problem is .. and then look at the logs .
[20:09] <yeats> lwizardl: try to fsck the drive and see what comes up
[20:10] <rubiksmomo_> I wonder if BIOS update solves this "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel." issue. But I'd need to install W10 to update BIOS. =(
[20:11] <akik> rubiksmomo_: the taints thing is because of incompatible licenses
[20:11] <yeats> Toxmi: many guides out there, just do a web search for "ubuntu ssd" or "linux ssd" for tips
[20:12] <yeats> Toxmi: systemd brings some ease with trimming, so you might search for ubuntu 15.10 or 16.04 specifically
[20:12] <rubiksmomo_> So any idea why after boot I get blank black screen for 20-30min before the login screen appears when using nvidia?
[20:13] <yeats> rubiksmomo_: tainted kernel just means there's a proprietary binary blob loaded - only fixable by not using nvidia
[20:13] <yeats> rubiksmomo_: the black screen issue sounds like something else - did you mean 20-30 *seconds* or *minutes*?
[20:13] <akik> rubiksmomo_: i have to say i wouldn't have had the patience to wait for 20 minutes
[20:14] <rubiksmomo_> yeats, minutes!
[20:14] <akik> rubiksmomo_: try making a new installation for example on a usb stick or a external hard disk
[20:14] <rubiksmomo_> akik, Only found out while chatting here trying to find a solution.
[20:15] <yeats> rubiksmomo_: that is not at all normal
[20:15] <RandomUser1234> sometimes my firefox freezes, and fullscreen youtube vids has long black screen intervals when switching in and out of fullscreen. Help?
[20:15] <yeats> rubiksmomo_: you might install bootchart to see what happens
[20:15] <rubiksmomo_> I installed bootchart. How do I use it?
[20:15] <nomoney4u2> repeating my question: i installed the firmware-b43-installer  last night and it went great, i was able to see my network.  today - i dont see anything. iwlist wlan1 s shows no result. :( any ideas?
[20:16] <Akuli> nomoney4u2: reinstall it?
[20:16] <Toxmi> yeats: thanks
[20:16] <akik> rubiksmomo_: i noticed in your previous paste version mismatches
[20:17] <rubiksmomo_> akik, nvidia version? I've tried most of versions of nvidia.
[20:17] <scatterp> EriC^^: hey you here?
[20:17] <yeats> rubiksmomo_: If I recall correctly, you just install it and reboot, then there will be a file somewhere you can load into a browser
[20:17] <akik> rubiksmomo_: in this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/16225310/
[20:17] <EriC^^> scatterp: hey
[20:17] <socket> Hello
[20:17] <socket> I'm new there
[20:17] <nomoney4u2> akuli, not an option right now because i dont have the usb wifi that I used to apt-get the package
[20:17] <reisio> socket: welcome
[20:17] <scatterp> EriC^^: so i almost gave up in despair then it hit me
[20:17] <reisio> one of us, one of us
[20:17] <reisio> etc.
[20:17] <rubiksmomo_> akik, Umm. What should I do about that?
[20:18] <scatterp> EriC^^: i thought i have tried every command in linux possible
[20:18] <scatterp> EriC^^: so i start to play with bios
[20:18] <scatterp> EriC^^: then i found a raid option view drive
[20:18] <reisio> like a tonne of briqués?
[20:18] <scatterp> EriC^^: in there it says does not exist 3x
[20:18] <reisio> scatterp: oh, laptop?
[20:18] <Akuli> nomoney4u2: you still have the package downloaded
[20:18] <socket> Can I ask a thing ot ubuntu?
[20:18] <akkad> yeap. openssl exploit fot mitm still works on latest patch. odd
[20:18] <Akuli> nomoney4u2: just sudo apt-get install --reinstall the package and it'll be there
[20:18] <scatterp> EriC^^: then i find a add option and boom boots
[20:18] <Amm0n> nomoney4u2, try sudo modprobe b43
[20:19] <EriC^^> scatterp: nice
[20:19] <scatterp> EriC^^:  so i resized the partition to have no space and then it eventually finishes reboot and try to export it in vmware failed over and over
[20:19] <akik> scatterp: your disk was missing from the list of bootable devices?
[20:19] <scatterp> EriC^^: finally in some hidden log file in esxi i find /tmp no space
[20:19] <OerHeks> akkad, file a bugreport then ?
[20:20] <scatterp> EriC^^: made some space and its now happily at 35% of the way to cloud land :D
[20:20] <nomoney4u2> when i did that, i see the card being reloaded
[20:20] <socket>  Can I ask a thing ot ubuntu?
[20:20] <scatterp> akik:  it was more not existing
[20:20] <nomoney4u2> not the card sorry, the network icon in the top right
[20:20] <scatterp> reisio: rack mount 1u hp server
[20:20] <EriC^^> scatterp: cool :D
[20:20] <OerHeks> socket, sure, go ahead
[20:20] <reisio> scatterp: huh, interesting
[20:20] <scatterp> EriC^^:  1 hour and 40 minites left
[20:20] <socket> Anyone know any channel server about programming/linux on freenode?
[20:20] <scatterp> EriC^^:  there was also a diagnose drives app built in the bios that helped out
[20:21] <Pici> socket: ##linux, ##programming, /msg alis help list
[20:21] <scatterp> socket: maybe debian-dev or such
[20:21] <terratoma> is there a command line way to change the password of a user, using a hash ?
[20:21] <bmoloney_> On 16.04 I managed to assign readable names to my network interfaces using "link" files under /etc/systemd/network. Now I want to setup an ethernet bridge. Trying to do it through /etc/network/interfaces doesn't seem to work. Do I need to use systemd to do this now?
[20:21] <terratoma> socket: #noisebridge
[20:21] <reisio> terratoma: yes, but why
[20:22] <terratoma> reisio: not sure what you mean
[20:22] <reisio> socket: #friendly-coders
[20:22] <akik> terratoma: you can use usermod to do that
[20:22] <rubiksmomo_> Should these nvidia versions match? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16225310/
[20:22] <reisio> and, there's another popular one with an odd name
[20:22] <reisio> terratoma: you want to make a password that is a random string of gibberish?
[20:23] <terratoma> reisio: im sorry i was unclear. i hashed my cleartext password.  i want to use that
[20:23] <terratoma> akik: i tried the following, doesnt work: usermod --pass="$1$dYC5RtHP$LEHA69RLNiAkAsgsv9bHb/" newuser
[20:23] <reisio> terratoma: you want to use the cleartext?
[20:23] <Armadillos> How do I passthrough a IPv6 IP request through my router to my ISP?
[20:23] <reisio> terratoma: can you not just run 'passwd user'?
[20:24] <terratoma> pretend i am doing this in a handsoff script
[20:24] <terratoma> does that make sense?
[20:25] <rubiksmomo_> Armadillos, Set your router bridged. But NAT would provide better security.
[20:25] <reisio> terratoma: yeah
[20:25] <reisio> terratoma: I think I'd use 'expect' in that case
[20:25] <DiamondSword> hello.. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity desktop. I tried Gnome desktop on the same OS, installed gnome-shell only, but I didn't like it, so removed. I did purge remove gnome-shell and also followed with autoremove. my question is that Unity was using like 400-450 MB ram before trying gnome, but now it uses like 1 GB. please help me.. what did I do wrong?
[20:25] <reisio> terratoma: online tuts abound
[20:26] <terratoma> reisio: not sure how that would help... i want to start out with the hash i created.  i really cant figure out how to do it.  its seems like this would be a common use case
[20:26] <akik> terratoma: the option is either -p or --password
[20:26] <Armadillos> rubiksmomo_: I'm running linux for my router using Shorewall, how do I NAT IPv6?
[20:26] <terratoma> reisio: i read them, i googled thoroughly.  i cant find a working way to create a new user from command line, with a hash i generate with openssl
[20:26] <reisio> terratoma: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22passwd%22%20%22expect%22
[20:27] <akik> reisio: usermod can do it
[20:27] <socket> How to register my nick?
[20:27] <reisio> good for usermod
[20:27] <terratoma> reisio: not helpful
[20:27] <reisio> socket: /msg nickserv help register
[20:27] <reisio> socket: /msg nickserv help identify
[20:27] <reisio> terratoma: sure it is
[20:28] <socket> Thanks
[20:28] <terratoma> akik: im tried that too . doesnt work. https://dpaste.de/z5KC/raw
[20:28] <socket> I've register me
[20:28] <akik> terratoma: usermod
[20:29] <rubiksmomo_> Is it a problem that my nvidia-settings is version 364.15 but my nvidia is 361.42?
[20:29] <goddard> how can i remove a ppa by url instead of its short name like ppa:blah/blah
[20:30] <reisio> socket: now ideally, with freenode, and hexchat, if you go to HexChat > Network List > Freenode - Edit, set Login: SASL (Username + Password), and Password to what you just set
[20:30] <socket> reisio, but now I'm register
[20:30] <reisio> rubiksmomo_: not unless it is
[20:30] <socket> I've register my psw
[20:31] <reisio> socket: you have to /msg nickserv identify pass every time you log onto freenode, unless you configure your IRC client (as I've just explained) to do it for you
[20:31] <socket> ah ok thanks
[20:31] <reisio> that is, if you want the few benefits being identified yields
[20:31] <socket> ok
[20:32] <akik> terratoma: use single quotes in the password
[20:33] <chandanc_>    /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER chandanc_ jyuontvlolrk
[20:33] <Pici> chandanc_: try without the space. (and don't worry, its not a password, no need to reset anything)
[20:33] <chandanc_>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER chandanc_ jyuontvlolrk
[20:33] <Pici> without any spaces in front....
[20:33] <chandanc_> Pici: Thanks :)
[20:35] <terratoma> reisio: akik: i figured it out, thanks https://dpaste.de/qpdj/raw
[20:35] <reisio> gj
[20:35] <rubiksmomo_> chandanc_, better change your password ;)
[20:35] <reisio> terratoma: and now I hack your seestem!
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> as will i
[20:36] <rubiksmomo_> I'll reboot, see you after 30min
[20:38] <goddard> is it enough to just remove a software source and update or do you have to do a ppa purge and how do you do it with only the url as a reference or how do you get the short name ppa-purge expects?
[20:38] <DiamondSword> hello.. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity desktop. I tried Gnome desktop on the same OS, installed gnome-shell only, but I didn't like it, so removed. I did purge remove gnome-shell and also followed with autoremove. my question is that Unity was using like 400-450 MB ram before trying gnome, but now it uses like 1 GB. please help me.. what did I do wrong?
[20:39] <reisio> DiamondSword: you're familiar with this? http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:39] <OerHeks> goddard, check the short ppa name on launchpad?
[20:40] <OerHeks> goddard, ppa-purge is the recomended way to reverse it, yes
[20:41] <goddard> OerHeks: i entered the url into the browser but can't see the short name
[20:42] <Rubiksmomo> Have to wait for the login screen for 30min again. Was there some way to find out what's holding it? Or shoul I just install a fresh Ubuntu on USB drive?
[20:42] <OerHeks> goddard, see the section 'Adding this PPA to your system' and the bold line
[20:43] <OerHeks> Rubiksmomo, 6 minutes, not 30 this time
[20:43] <goddard> OerHeks: here is an example maybe you can help - http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-dev/lubuntu-daily/ubuntu
[20:43] <goddard> OerHeks: that is taken directly from the software sources app
[20:44] <Rubiksmomo> OerHeks: Right, it was fast this time :o
[20:45] <OerHeks> goddard, search next time for " ubuntu + ppa + name" >>> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/lubuntu-daily
[20:45] <EriC^^> Rubiksmomo: does it take long if you type sudo service lightdm restart
[20:45] <goddard> OerHeks: what is the ppa name though my friend?
[20:46] <goddard> OerHeks: i would love to be able to decrypt this url string
[20:47] <EriC^^> goddard: try ppa:lubuntu-dev/lubuntu-daily
[20:47] <rubiksmomo_> EriC^^, If I restart lightdm I can hear the login sound but the screen will remain blank. And after that it gets stuck and stops responding to ctrl+alt+f1
[20:47] <goddard> EriC^^: so it is the first element in the url and then the last?
[20:47] <OnkelTem> Folks, how to configure kbd to emulate cursor keys on letter keys?
[20:48] <EriC^^> goddard: yeah, if you open the link it explains how to add and what's in and the new builds
[20:48] <goddard> EriC^^: cool thanks
[20:48] <EriC^^> rubiksmomo_: ok so it's a lightdm kind of issue not a systemd service thing
[20:48] <goddard> OerHeks: thanks
[20:48] <EriC^^> or rather sysv
[20:48] <rubiksmomo_> EriC^^, Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS 64bit
[20:48] <EriC^^> *upstart
[20:49] <DiamondSword> reisio, ok but I couldn't find information on the page. what do you else recommend?
[20:49] <DiamondSword> hello.. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity desktop. I tried Gnome desktop on the same OS, installed gnome-shell only, but I didn't like it, so removed. I did purge remove gnome-shell and also followed with autoremove. my question is that Unity was using like 400-450 MB ram before trying gnome, but now it uses like 1 GB. please help me.. what did I do wrong?
[20:49] <EriC^^> rubiksmomo_: try /var/log/lightdm
[20:49] <reisio> DiamondSword: what's the problem?
[20:50] <DiamondSword> reisio, I just wonder why now unity takes my 1 gb of ram.. it was like 400 mb before installing and removing gnome-shell.
[20:50] <rubiksmomo_> EriC^^, multiple log files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226266/
[20:51] <askpcguy> Hello everyone, using curl to save a page, is there an easy way to remove a specific part of the page within a script?
[20:51] <rubiksmomo_> EriC^^, This looks interesting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226285/
[20:51] <reisio> DiamondSword: according to what?
[20:52] <reisio> DiamondSword: is it keeping you from doing something?
[20:52] <reisio> askpcguy: yup
[20:52] <DiamondSword> reisio, System Monitor :)
[20:52] <reisio> askpcguy: what part, why?
[20:52] <dean_> hey sorry i've potentially deleted some of my software sources. Can anyone confirm what sources I should have in Software & updates under Other software
[20:52] <DiamondSword> reisio, actually not much but I'm sure something went wrong. I'm curious to find it.
[20:52] <ulkesh> Sorry if this is the wrong channel (I don't see a #canonical), but I was wondering if anyone knew when these will be coming available...it's been "Coming Soon" since launch:  http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=1206&sort=1a
[20:52] <dean_> I have canonical Partners and canonical Partners (source)
[20:53] <askpcguy> before I diff the page, I want to remove some image ad thing that refreshes (its not the part I'm interested in
[20:53] <reisio> DiamondSword: I suggest revisiting why you're sure; myself I am not convinced
[20:53] <rubiksmomo_> EriC^^, Something weird goin' on: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226328/
[20:53] <reisio> askpcguy: can you share the page in question, and the ad block?
[20:53] <DiamondSword> hmh.
[20:53] <DiamondSword> reisio, can I use gnome-shell on lightdm?
[20:54] <dean_> DiamondSword Yes! Just click the ubuntu icon in lighdm and change it to gnomeshell :]
[20:55] <reisio> askpcguy: here's an example that removes 'body': curl -s 'http://reisio.com/' | perl -0pe 's@\t+<body>.*?</body>\n@@s'
[20:55] <ali_> how to get itunes on ubuntu?
[20:56] <OerHeks> ali_, not, even in wine it is garbage
[20:56] <reisio> ali_: it's doable, but why?
[20:56] <ali_> for podcasts
[20:56] <OerHeks> ali_, see https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[20:56] <reisio> ali_: there are many other podcast clients you can use
[20:56] <rubiksmomo_> Any idea why I get a blank black screen for minutes until the login screen appears when using nvidia?   lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/   x-1.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226375/
[20:56] <DiamondSword> dean_, no I mean, while installing gnome-shell it asks me to select whether gdm or lightdm, what if I select to lightdm, gnome-shell can work on it?
[20:56] <ali_> which one would you recommend?
[20:57] <askpcguy> reisio: this is on a rasp pi 3, running ubuntu mate
[20:57] <reisio> ali_: http://alternativeto.net/software/itunes/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[20:57] <ali_> actually itunes synchronizes my iphone podcasts thats why I have a preference for it
[20:57] <askpcguy> still poking it with a sharp stick and figuring out what response I get
[20:57] <reisio> ali_: most of those are, to my eye, applications with pretty good reputations
[20:57] <dean_> Yup. It'll work on both.
[20:57] <reisio> ali_: quod libet in particular is a very straightforward, utilitarian player that is often overlooked
[20:58] <reisio> if you want something more like iTunes, banshee might be a good start
[20:58] <reisio> whatever comes by default in Ubuntu will probably also play podcasts
[20:58] <ali_> how about sync it with my iphone podcasts?
[20:58] <reisio> it was rhythmbox at one time, dunno what it is now
[20:58] <reisio> ali_: is that done on the iTunes server end, or by transferring actual data to the phone from your computer?
[20:59] <ali_> iTunes server
[20:59] <ali_> automatically
[20:59] <reisio> I'm not familiar with that; it wouldn't surprise me if there's a chance you'd need a separate, non-Apple app for your iPhone to replace that functionality
[20:59] <reisio> definitely check with the apps I linked first, though
[20:59] <reisio> they may well support it
[20:59] <reisio> Apple does like to break compatibility with 3rd party apps, though
[20:59] <ali_> that would do as long as it sync with my phoned
[21:00] <ali_> phone*
[21:00] <reisio> you actually download them to your phone?
[21:00] <ali_> no
[21:00] <reisio> you stream them?
[21:00] <ali_> yea
[21:00] <reisio> but you sync the list from your desktop to your phone's app's list?
[21:00] <ali_> updates are automatically shown on feed
[21:00] <goddard> EriC^^: OerHeks one more small issue could you tell me how to deal with this? docs
[21:00] <ali_> nope, all automatic
[21:00] <goddard> https://i3wm.org/docs/repositories.html
[21:00] <ali_> as long as itunes is used
[21:00] <ali_> in both
[21:01] <reisio> ali_: but automatic /from/ your desktop to your phone, and/or vice versa?
[21:01] <ali_> both
[21:01] <ali_> ways
[21:01] <reisio> k
[21:01] <DiamondSword> thanks ppl ~
[21:01] <ali_> usually I add on phone
[21:01] <ali_> and listen on computer
[21:01] <reisio> I definitely wouldn't be surprised if one of the apps in the list I gave supports that with iTunes own server
[21:01] <rubiksmomo_> Any idea why I get a blank black screen for minutes until the login screen appears when using nvidia?   lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/
[21:01] <k1l> ali_: with apple hardware you are bundeled to itunes. and that doesnt run on linux. you can try wine.
[21:01] <reisio> but I also wouldn't be surprised if none do, and you will have to find another app besides the ordinary iTunes one
[21:02] <goddard> how do you deal with software sources added as opposed to a ppa? https://i3wm.org/docs/repositories.html
[21:02] <ali_> thats a headache to select and search each and every podcast
[21:02] <ali_> k1l, does it work?\
[21:02] <reisio> askpcguy: an rpi should have curl and perl, all you need
[21:02] <ali_> some said its a garbage on linux
[21:02] <auronandace> goddard: you realise i3 is already in the ubuntu default repos..
[21:02] <k1l> ali_: use wine.
[21:03] <OerHeks> ali_, see here for itunes & wine  https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[21:03] <yeats> goddard: avoid instructions that do things like "--allow-unauthenticated"
[21:03] <goddard> auronandace: doesn't really help me as I am trying to remove this
[21:03] <reisio> last I checked, only an older version of iTunes runs with less-than-perfect support
[21:03] <ali_> yea thats the problem
[21:03] <goddard> yeats: thanks for the tip
[21:03] <reisio> you can run it in seamless VirtualBox really easily, if you have a Windows install
[21:03] <reisio> but it's really not worth it, IME
[21:03] <askpcguy> sweet so I just discovered, also the text I want to ax is "From the Image Gallery:" from the html
[21:03] <ali_> wine usually supports older programs
[21:04] <reisio> replacing the iTunes app is a far more efficient use of your time
[21:04] <ali_> yea I am aware of that option, reisio
[21:04] <ali_> but I dont want that
[21:04] <dean_> Get an android :P
[21:04] <reisio> ali_: well, Wine usually supports programs more properly coded for win32
[21:04] <dean_> Or a ubuntu phone lol
[21:04] <reisio> that is, relying less on quirks of Windows, and more on how win32 is actually /supposed to work/
[21:04] <reisio> Apple software on Windows is more and more of a unicorn
[21:04] <ali_> dean_, perhaps market share doesn't make me wanna get one
[21:04] <ali_> lol
[21:04] <yeats> goddard: removing should be as easy as commenting out/deleting the lines they had you add (back up the file before changing)
[21:04] <reisio> ali_: and I wouldn't suggest it be your first choice, either
[21:05] <reisio> I'd suggest replacing the iTunes app on your phone as well
[21:05] <goddard> yeats: then just update?
[21:05] <reisio> there are surely hundreds of alternatives in the app store
[21:05] <reisio> also wouldn't surprise me if they're actually superior in performance and function
[21:05] <yeats> goddard: then 'sudo apt-get remove <packagename>' then 'sudo apt-get <packagename>' to install the repo version
[21:05] <goddard> yeats: what about dead package references?
[21:05] <reisio> and some will no doubt even be open source
[21:05] <ali_> it runs very pretty well on windows 10, I tried it.\
[21:05] <goddard> yeats: but i dont know which one it is
[21:05] <yeats> goddard: yeah, sudo apt-get update after you make the change - it will refresh the local package cache
[21:06] <reisio> ali_: right, it's designed to
[21:06] <k1l> goddard: apt-cache policy packagename.  that will tell you where the package is from
[21:06] <goddard> k1l: ahh ok
[21:06] <ali_> so basically in linux, I have to usually find alternatives to windows programs right?
[21:06] <ali_> unless ofc it runs great on wine.
[21:06] <reisio> ali_: mmm, that's not exactly the conclusion I would draw from this
[21:07] <k1l> ali_: yes. but that is difficult for locked down propriatary stuff like the apple stuff.
[21:07] <reisio> ali_: I think what you should take away from this particular scenario, primarily, is that Apple builds hardware as much as possible to work only with their software
[21:07] <reisio> it's a very closed ecosystem, on purpose
[21:07] <reisio> they are constantly, actively striving for that
[21:07] <reisio> and in the long run you will have less struggle by either: 1) not using apple hardware, or 2) only using apple hardware /and/ software
[21:07] <ali_> how about microsoft applications.
[21:07] <ali_> they have the same issue then
[21:07] <reisio> what, as compared to apple ones?
[21:07] <ali_> with linux
[21:08] <ali_> yea
[21:08] <ali_> on linux*
[21:08] <k1l> ali_: if you look back there were librarys to support older iphones and ipods. but apple changed their stuff that often in the hidden parts, that its hard to make them work again.
[21:08] <reisio> it's similar, but Microsoft /hardware/ is less popular, and actually less closed off
[21:08] <ali_> for instance, I want windows app to run well on linux. (not talking about games)
[21:08] <ali_> would that be difficult?
[21:09] <reisio> ali_: not necessarily, but
[21:09] <reisio> ali_: it is generally a good idea to find a native alternative instead
[21:09] <OerHeks> ali_, best start is to check the wineHQ database.
[21:09] <reisio> preferably an open source one, and then you won't ever have to find another alternative /again/
[21:09] <ali_> OerHeks, do you prefer using wine or alternative ones?
[21:09] <OerHeks> ali_, i do not use wine, ever.
[21:09] <reisio> that's the beauty of free software, you never have to replace it, technically
[21:09] <reisio> I find Wine makes a nice stopgap if you don't presently have the free time to find a replacement
[21:09] <ali_> as I came from windows and apple eco system. it will be really difficult for me to switch entirely on applications side, reisio
[21:10] <mcphail> ali_: remember a windows app is for windows. If you can get it working on Linux, it is a bonus rather than an expectation
[21:10] <reisio> which is rare, IME, but does happen
[21:10] <OerHeks> i didn't switch to linux to get bugged again with wine.
[21:10] <reisio> ali_: I don't think it will be; many have come before you
[21:10] <reisio> ali_: let the channel know what you're trying to replace or achieve, and you'll get help
[21:10] <k1l> ali_: which microsoft app?
[21:11] <ali_> like you said about apples application, how about microsoft's popular applicaton Microsoft Office
[21:11] <k1l> ali_: most times there is a good alternative available
[21:11] <yeats> ali_: in the spirit of May the Fourth: "you must unlearn what you have learned" and start doing things the free/open source way :-)
[21:11] <ali_> and of the same quality and features? k1l
[21:11] <reisio> and again, keep in mind that /if/ you replace a closed source win32 app with an open source native app, you likely won't ever have to deal with replacing that app/functionality again; you can use that new app for eternity
[21:11] <k1l> !info libreoffice | ali_
[21:11] <reisio> it's very worthwhile
[21:11] <reisio> ali_: yeah, libreoffice is an exceptional workalike
[21:12] <reisio> I personally used to use it even on Windows installs, as it seemed far more sane
[21:12] <ali_> thats good to hear, reisio
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Update on my wierd symlink problem from yesterday. It appears that it was caused by a btrfs bug: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg54536.html and that indeed such symlinks should not even be allowed to exist in the first place. I'm now on to write a script to delete all such symlinks before I try to upgrade again (there were more than the two I found yesterday).
[21:12] <reisio> on Windows installs that also had the entire MS Office suite installed, even
[21:13] <reisio> yeats: is may 4th a thing?
[21:13] <ali_> so you prefer libre over MS Office suite?
[21:13] <reisio> ali_: yup, more reliable, more straightforward
[21:13] <reisio> fewer disappeared-for-no-particular-reason features, etc.
[21:13] <ali_> as long as it fulfills my requirements through its features, I am happy.
[21:13] <reisio> I think you will be
[21:13] <reisio> got any more?
[21:14] <ali_> IDA Pro
[21:14] <ali_> :p
[21:14] <reisio> ali_: disassembler?
[21:14] <ali_> yea
[21:14] <ali_> but I guess I can easily find that on linux, perhaps.
[21:14] <mcphail> ali_: apt-get source ;p
[21:14] <ali_> reisio, have you used mac OS X?
[21:15] <reisio> it is apparently avilable for Linux; I'm sure there are alternatives, too
[21:15] <reisio> ali_: yup, occasionally
[21:15] <akik> ali_: does http://qira.me/ fit the bill?
[21:15] <ali_> is there anyone who has switched from Apple's eco system (MAC OS X) to ubuntu (Linux/gnu) entirely?
[21:15] <reisio> ali_: oh plenty of people
[21:15] <ali_> I wanna know which *Nix is better
[21:15] <reisio> Unity and GNOME both, in particular, are very Mac OS like
[21:15] <reisio> well, Mac OS is based off FreeBSD
[21:16] <ali_> yea
[21:16] <reisio> the BSDs have had much less momentum than GNU/Linux distros for a long time now
[21:16] <reisio> because back in the day the BSDs got themselves sued
[21:16] <reisio> and for a while nobody was sure they'd continue to exist
[21:16] <ali_> but they have apple engineers working on it aswell
[21:16] <ali_> right
[21:16] <klimt> i cannot install php5 for apache on ubuntu xenial - any help?
[21:16] <reisio> they have
[21:16] <bennie> quit/
[21:16] <nacc> klimt: php7 only
[21:16] <reisio> I would say in general Mac OS is not taken very seriously in the server world
[21:16] <klimt> thx
[21:16] <reisio> which is kind of where Unix systems are put to the test as Unix systems, IMO
[21:16] <nacc> klimt: there are PPA alternatives, but officially, 16.04 is php7 only
[21:16] <mcphail> ali_: opinions of "best OS" should really be polled in the 'ubuntu-offtopic channel rather than the support channel
[21:17] <bennie> quit/
[21:17] <ali_> mcphail, I am asking regarding the support of applications
[21:17] <klimt> i get unable to locate php7 :/
[21:17] <reisio> it's certainly popular for desktops, though; hence GNOME & Unity emulating the Mac OS frontend so much by default
[21:17] <nacc> klimt: err, sorry, 'php' (which will pull in 'php7.0')
[21:17] <reisio> ali_: Mac OS's primary difference is that it doesn't come with a proper Unix package manager by default; there are only third party offerings of varying quality
[21:18] <ali_> reisio, so given OS X and Ubuntu for daily driver (programming specifically), what would be your preference.(Apps support and so on.)
[21:18] <klimt> nacc super works :)
[21:18] <klimt> thx guys
[21:18] <yeats> reisio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Day
[21:18] <k1l> ali_: reisio that talk better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <glooby> hi
[21:19] <ali_> btw k1l I couldn't join offtopic
[21:19] <ali_> why is that
[21:19] <ali_> so
[21:19] <k1l> !register | ali_
[21:19] <ali_> oh my bad
[21:19] <reisio> yeats: ha, thx
[21:19] <ali_> thanks
[21:19] <reisio> ali_: well obviously GNU/Linux; I'm here after all
[21:19] <reisio> but I think objectively, also GNU/Linux
[21:19] <ali_> reisio, could you come private for a moment
[21:20] <reisio> it's maintained largely by enthusiastic, programmer volunteers, after all
[21:20] <reisio> ali_: sure, msg me
[21:21] <AIneedu> Hi, i have a home network(netA) and have a subnet within (NetB). I am using iptables on a debian server to NAT trough. It is working great. I have a minecraft server set up in netB and I can connect to it by manually entering the adress of the Debian NAT machine, which forwards packets back and forth. I do however need "autodiscover" of the server. That only works so far if I place the minecraft server within netA. Anything i could 
[21:22] <OerHeks> AIneedu, debian has its own channel, #debian
[21:23] <AIneedu> OerHeks: tried 30 minutes ago there
[21:24] <AIneedu> Its the same iptables isnt it? :) any advice would be appreciated
[21:24] <Ben64> AIneedu: use #debian for debian issues
[21:24] <wad> Anyone got skype working in 16.04 LTS?
[21:25] <auronandace> wad: in what way? are you unable to instll it?
[21:25] <Vonologic> Does Bluetooth work for anyone else in 16.04?
[21:25] <wad> Haven't tried yet. Installing it now, actually. Just curious what kind of experience I should expect.
[21:26] <AIneedu> Ben64 OerHeks: ok, I will swap the debian vm with a ubuntu one. brb 10-15 min
[21:26] <auronandace> wad: exactly the same as 15.10
[21:26] <Ben64> AIneedu: or you can just use #debian
[21:26] <wad> Hopefully that's good. My last Ubuntu was 14.04 LTS.
[21:27] <auronandace> wad: skype has not been updated in a long time
[21:27] <wad> Okay.
[21:27] <wad> I'll give it a shot.
[21:27] <wad> But not set my hopes up very high.
[21:27] <Ben64> AIneedu: maybe ##networking
[21:28] <AIneedu> Ben64: what might work! :)
[21:28] <AIneedu> *that
[21:28] <wad> Yeesh, that's a lot of packages that get  installed! >_>
[21:28] <wad> O_O
[21:29] <auronandace> wad: yup, it relies on 32bit libs
[21:30]  * wad nods. Ouch.
[21:30] <wad> It's chugging along.
[21:30] <dupondje> I'm just trying to install a fresh Ubuntu 16.04 on my server, but it hangs on 'Preparing linux-firmware' ... Any idea's?
[21:35] <yeats> dupondje: alt-F4 should show you the log messages
[21:35] <yeats> (alt-F1 gets you back to the install screen)
[21:35] <dupondje> yeats: unpacking linux-firmware ... :)
[21:37] <yvne> forgive my stupidity. does ubuntu not like some usb stick brands? (like how windows/hp recovery does not like sandisk)
[21:37] <dupondje> yeats: strange, hanging like 20 minutes on 'Unpacking linux-firmware" now ... :s
[21:38] <spid3rMin3> i have a quick question
[21:38] <spid3rMin3> i have a virtualbox running ubuntu 16.04
[21:38] <spid3rMin3> im trying to connect it with putty
[21:38] <k1l> yvne: no. should work with all brands
[21:38] <OerHeks> yvne, only if you buy that sandisk from groupon, fake sdcards
[21:39] <spid3rMin3> but im having trouble getting an ip address to connect to
[21:39] <spid3rMin3> it's a bridge connection
[21:39] <spid3rMin3> and only provides an ipv6 address
[21:39] <spid3rMin3> inet6 addr
[21:40] <yeats> dupondje: could be a hardware issue, could be low RAM, could be a bad install image - lots of possibilities
[21:40] <yvne> k1l & OerHeks: thanks!
[21:40] <pulsar12> spid3rMin3, you can use nat with port forwarding, bridging, create a loopback interface...
[21:40] <therealtbe> !backup
[21:40] <pulsar12> i like to use nat or loopback interface
[21:40] <therealtbe> !sbackup
[21:40] <therealtbe> !cloning
[21:41] <spid3rMin3> pulsar12 , what could be the reason for something like this to occur, its a fresh install and bridge is on with a "wired connection" that doesnt provide an internet connction
[21:41] <spid3rMin3> the wired connection says that its connected
[21:42] <OerHeks> spid3rMin3, check the vbox setting for your vm, maybe choose an other network adapter?
[21:42] <pulsar12> do you get an ip by dhcp? if you define static can you ping your own pc?
[21:42] <skinux> Has anyone successfully WiFi tethered an LG Android phone with Ubuntu without phone having built-in tether feature?
[21:42] <pulsar12> can you ping other hosts on the network'
[21:42] <Ben64> skinux: nope
[21:42] <Rafase282> Hello, I need help with my wireless drivers on Ubuntu 16.04
[21:42] <Vonologic> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bt-dw1560-firmware/ Is it possible to install this on Ubuntu, or is it restricted to Arch Linux? There's only a PKGBUILD file in it
[21:43] <spid3rMin3> i cannot ping other hosts on the network , i included a second network adapter with NAT to gain internet connection
[21:43] <Rafase282> product: QCA6164 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
[21:43] <dbrom> anyone here use noip2
[21:43] <therealtbe> hello what is the best way to make a complete disk image, and then restore from that image?
[21:43] <Ben64> therealtbe: dd
[21:43] <spid3rMin3> for my ip i have a basic home connection with a router
[21:44] <askpcguy> Clonezilla and ddrescue
[21:44] <OerHeks> Vonologic, maybe this page is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760920/lenovo-z50-75-80ec-qca6164-802-11ac-wireless-network-adapter-not-working
[21:44] <mcphail> dbrom: what is your question about it?
[21:45] <pulsar12> spid3rMin3, yeah briding can cause those issues in some scenarios, one possible reason is because your VM interface will have the same MAC address as your host interface, and windows is not forwarding the packets correctly back to VM for some reason
[21:46] <dbrom> I use dd to take and restor a image
[21:46] <spid3rMin3> pulsar12 , how can i fix this >
[21:46] <pulsar12> if you have nat interface configured, its easy. Just go to settings and add a port redirection to port 22
[21:47] <spid3rMin3> pulsar12, i'll try it now
[21:48] <dbrom> Anyone using noip2 in this room
[21:48] <spid3rMin3> pulsar12, what should i put under the host port , guest port
[21:49] <OerHeks> mcphail> dbrom: what is your question about it?
[21:50] <pulsar12> host port = a random unused port you may want to use, can be 22 if not already used. guest port = 22 if you have sshd running with default port
[21:50] <dbrom> I have installed in on a couple of servers and its not refreshing the ip ....
[21:50] <dbrom> do i need to do extra config in the noip2.c file to have this wiork....
[21:51] <mcphail> dbrom: i use ddclient and get that to call a wget one-liner to update. I haven't had success with noip's client (or ddclient's native noip functionality)
[21:51] <spid3rMin3> pulsar12 , i acctually noticed something : when in the host cmd an ipconfig brings up an ipaddress to my virtual machine and it is pingable
[21:51] <spid3rMin3> Ethernet adapter VirtualBox Host-Only Network:
[21:51] <spid3rMin3> is this my vm?
[21:52] <pulsar12> no, its a special interface you can assign to VM as an adapter
[21:52] <spid3rMin3> vm being my ubuntu os , and could i put this into a putty to connect\
[21:52] <OerHeks> dbrom, no, To config defaults noip2 (with capital C ) >> sudo /usr/local/bin/noip2 -C
[21:52] <dbrom> where do i get ddclient and the how tos on install
[21:52] <spid3rMin3> okok
[21:52] <mcphail> !info ddclient | dbrom
[21:53] <dbrom> yes I ran the sudo /usr/local/src/noip2 -C at the beginning
[21:53] <pulsar12> you can choose that as an adapter on the VM, then it's like that the interface on your VM is directly connected to VirtualBox Host-Only Network that is visible on your host
[21:53] <OerHeks> dbrom, uh oh, not  /usr/local/src/ but /usr/local/bin/noip2
[21:54] <et09> what's the newest, hippest file system ?
[21:54] <dviola> would you guys recommend 16.04 or 14.04?
[21:54] <k1l> dviola: for a new install go with 16.04
[21:55] <dviola> I upgraded to 16.04 and it seems a bit unstable at this point
[21:55] <dbrom> depends on the use dviola
[21:55] <dviola> for example, I see a kernel error when it boots, and I don't see the splash screen, it takes a long time to boot too
[21:55] <dbrom> I never touch the latest for atleast 6 months
[21:56] <k1l> dviola: what video card? what exact error?
[21:56] <umoukun> Does anyone know how to fix this problem?  http://pastebin.com/ZZZ64vwc
[21:56] <dviola> k1l: intel
[21:56] <dbrom> For example i just started using 15 this week
[21:56] <dviola> k1l: it's an error that has been fixed in the latest linux kernel already
[21:56] <dviola> k1l: I don't know which one
[21:56] <dviola> k1l: I think ubuntu needs some backporting to do
[21:56] <k1l> umoukun: your 3rd party packages seems to be a mess.
[21:56] <k1l> umoukun: depency-wise
[21:56] <dviola> I will not touch 15.04 until those things are ironed out
[21:56] <umoukun> yeah, I cant seem to fix it
[21:57] <umoukun> it broke my sound
[21:57] <k1l> dviola: you cant stay on 15.04
[21:58] <genii> umoukun:  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnuradio-iqbalance_0.37.2-myriadrf3~trusty_amd64.deb
[21:58] <dviola> k1l: ?
 I will not touch 15.04 until those things are ironed out
[21:59] <umoukun> genii: thanks
[22:01] <spid3rMin3> pulsar12, i added the port forwarding rule with the nat connection, however it's just giving me a 10.0..... i[
[22:01] <spid3rMin3> i[
[22:01] <spid3rMin3> ip*
[22:03] <dev\null> Hello people, is there any support room for Libreoffice?
[22:04] <reisio> dev\null: /msg alis list *libre*office*
[22:04] <reisio> or you can always guess and /join #libreoffice
[22:06] <et09> joinyes, #libreoffice
[22:06] <et09> yes, #libreoffice
[22:07] <rgerovski> Hello, I have Ubuntu Server 16.04 running in VirtualBox on a Windows 10 host. I have VirtualBox guest additions installed and correctly set up shared folders which I am successfully mounting using the "mount" command. I'd like the shared folder to be mounted on system startup, so I added a record to /etc/fstab like: Projects    /home/development/pr
[22:07] <rgerovski> ojects    vboxsf    rw,uid=1000,gid=1000    0    0. However, whenever I add a record to fstab the next reboot I get the emergency mode. Please help
[22:08] <easyLinux> Hi guys
[22:09] <easyLinux> i need extract only "model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 890  @ 2.96GHz"
[22:09] <easyLinux> but i nedd only " Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 520  @ 2.40GHz"
[22:10] <easyLinux> howto extract only this in cpuinfo?
[22:10] <jamesd_> easyLinux:  cut -d":" -f2
[22:11] <jamesd_> easyLinux :   grep "model name" /proc/cpu_info | cut -d":" -f2
[22:11] <easyLinux> jamesd_: thanks, but show me all cores
[22:12] <jamesd_> easyLinux :   grep "model name" /proc/cpu_info | cut -d":" -f2  | tail -n1
[22:12] <easyLinux> jamesd_: nice bro
[22:13] <easyLinux> jamesd_: very very thanks
[22:13] <easyLinux> :D
[22:13] <jamesd_> i'm sure three is an easier way... read grep's manpage it probably has a flag to exit after the first match
[22:17] <nacc> jamesd_: -m 1, iirc
[22:18] <SETH001DR> Prueba
[22:19] <SETH001DR> Drogotea es una pagina que todavia funciona?
[22:22] <tgm4883> jamesd_: -m #
[22:22] <tgm4883> (--max-count=#)
[22:23] <_28_ria> Hello, I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, tried to upgrade to 16.04 LTS. I clicked Upgrade on the dialog box, that appears after reboot, suggesting to upgrade. it presented me to upgrade to 15.10, while I thought, that LTS would be upgraded to 16.04 LTS, so, I closed that update window. Found on the inet an update directions from 14.04 to 16.04: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> _28_ria: Good, do *not* upgrade to 15.10.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> !ltsupgrade | _28_ria
[22:25] <jamesd_> for extra credit someone should fix this bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mcollective-plugins/+bug/1061287
[22:25] <Jordan_U> _28_ria: You probably have update-manager set to show all releases, rather than just LTS releases. You probably want it to only be showing LTS releases.
[22:25] <_28_ria> It suggested to set the "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" to "long-term support versions" for 14.04 LTS. I did, and now, when I open auto-update, it doesn't present me with a new release, only suggests to update certain packages. do-release-upgrade, also says, no new release found.
[22:26] <jamesd_> the fix is in the bug,  a one liner   (create a symlink if you like)... cost me nearly 2 days of banging my head against the wall
[22:26] <_28_ria> Jordan_U: Ah, I got it, I have to wait for July 21st
[22:33] <rsawyer6003> UGH I'm about to pull my hair out trying to get this deb pkg installed
[22:33] <kisb> use gdebi
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> rsawyer6003: [ sudo dpkg -i name_of_package.deb ]
[22:34] <rsawyer6003> I'm fixing to. I keep getting dependency problems
[22:34] <chichi_> how to see meminfo in GB?
[22:34] <kisb> rsawyer6003, use gdebi
[22:35] <rsawyer6003> It is i386 and depends on krb5-user:i386 which I cannot get to install because it depends on krb5-config:i386 which has no install canidate
[22:35] <rsawyer6003> wget https://www.exacq.com/reseller/Ubuntu/Dapper/exacqVisionServer.deb --user=guest --password=exacqvisionip --no-check-certificate
[22:35] <rsawyer6003> that is the package in question
[22:36] <jamesd_> chichi_: free -g
[22:36] <le_pig> rsawyer6003: do you have i386 architecture enabled?
[22:36] <chichi_> jamesd_:wrong information
[22:36] <chichi_> jamesd_: i have 4GB
[22:36] <rsawyer6003> yep. i do
[22:37] <jamesd_> chichi_: what do you want to see?
[22:37] <chichi_> jamesd_: 3gb only
[22:37] <behroge> exit
[22:37] <chichi_> sudo dmidecode -t 17 | grep Size | awk '{s+=$2} END {print s}' show 4096
[22:37] <chichi_> jamesd_: i can see meminfo in GB?
[22:38] <jamesd_> make awk devide by 1024
[22:40] <jamesd_> if you like you can also install facter  its part of puppet and it can provide you with a lot of info about your system, probably more than you want
[22:40] <le_pig> facter is legit
[22:42] <jamesd_> so is puppet,  mcollective rocks as well but is a major PITA to get it installed and working, and then you have to wash, rinse repeat on each node, until you automate it correctly
[22:42] <rsawyer6003> gdebi seems to have done the trick at this point
[22:42] <rsawyer6003> why the heck is dpkg used instead of gdebi by default?
[22:43] <chichi_> jamesd_: script for my app, see more 300 computer... OCS no work nice.
[22:44] <jamesd_> 300.... my job is to support 200k servers.
[22:44] <chichi_> jamesd_: and i new on linux
[22:44] <chichi_> jamesd_: everplace search show only to use awk
[22:45] <chichi_> jamesd_: 300 workstation kkk no server
[22:45] <chichi_> jamesd_: all user ubuntu 16.04 lts
[22:45] <jamesd_> learn  awk,,, its a powerful tool.   but unix has 100's of power tools.
[22:46] <chichi_> jamesd_: grep "MemTotal" /proc/meminfo
[22:46] <chichi_> jamesd_: but see in MB
[22:49] <rsawyer6003> kisb Thanks for the help. I've been ready to give up on this twice today. who knew gdebi would work flawlessly when dpkg struggled all day?
[22:49] <akik> rsawyer6003: you can install debs with "sudo apt install ./package.deb" it handles the dependencies too
[22:49] <rsawyer6003> akik: good to know I'll put that  in my toolbag for next time
[22:50] <rsawyer6003> I had been, in the past, been able to just use dpkg and apt-get -f install and all was well. The latest version of this package must have some new dependents that don't play well
[22:51] <rsawyer6003> thanks again for the help everyone. I'll try to payback the support this weekend and do a little more time on here.
[22:52] <kisb> oh cool
[22:53] <jamesd_> chichi_: you know ram won't always be in exact GB,  since many times your  app will run on a virtual, and they don't always get full GB...
[22:54] <chichi_> jamesd_: really
[22:54] <chichi_> jamesd_: kkk
[22:55] <jamesd_> grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo  | awk '{s=$2; e = s / (1024*1024); print e,  "GB";}'
[22:55] <jamesd_> does what you want.
[22:56] <jamesd_> could be comdensed a bit, but hell its not my script
[22:57] <dev\null> May i ask generic question
[22:57] <dev\null> when i call this command (split) in terminal
[22:57] <dev\null> Am i actually asking the kernel to perform that command?
[22:58] <jamesd_> the kernel starts up a user process called split that does it works,  the setup work is done by the kernel and glibc, etc and but very little of it happens in the kernel
[22:59] <dev\null> So the kernel will do something
[22:59] <enon> I upgraded from 14.04 lubuntu and now my sound is broke, I need to know where to put alsa module info for this series kernel
[23:00] <jamesd_> use it provides the basic environment, it creates/links up stdin, stdout, stderr...  if you want to see what happens when you run split one level about the kernel  try  strace split
[23:02] <jamesd_>  "what happens on my computer when i press the letter "A" on the keyboard"  is a one line awnser or a 500 page book worthy of a phd thesis.
[23:18] <ArrEmmArrEff> red triangle with a ! in it up by my clock anybody know why?
[23:19] <ArrEmmArrEff> it says network problems or repository issue
[23:22] <qyiz> I've been trying to mirror my monitor with my TV using an HDMI cable. I'm on 14.04 LTS and I keep getting errors. I'd apreciate it if someone could help me troubleshoot.
[23:23] <qyiz> one of the problems: http://pastebin.com/siNWiiCy
[23:24] <Trinity> does ubuntu use cgroups internally?
[23:24] <Trinity> or rather what is the purpose of /sys/fs/cgroup?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> ArrEmmArrEff: What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ? to see/clear what the notification is .
[23:28] <mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm> .
[23:33] <jamesd_> lastlog chichi
[23:42] <askpcguy> ok this has me stumped
[23:43] <askpcguy> using curl to save html, can I remove a section from the html file?
[23:46] <rajiv_> I have installed gnome-software but its not working.its not showing any softwares. How do i fix it?
[23:48] <rajiv_> gnom-software not even shos the installed softwares.
[23:51] <whlai> anyone get pam_mount working in 16.04?
[23:51] <whlai> I can't seem to get it activated
[23:52] <whlai> I put in my edits to /etc/security/pam_mount.conf.xml
[23:52] <ArrEmmArrEff> Bashing-om:  hey :) thx  i got errors i think in my apt-get update https://paste.ubuntu.com/16228325/
[23:53] <whlai> Is that the right distro?
[23:54] <whlai> very strange tohave in your apt-get update
[23:54] <whlai> what are your sources?
[23:56] <ArrEmmArrEff> whlai: me?
[23:56] <rajiv_> its not even shown the installed softwares.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> ArrEmmArrEff: Look'n .
[23:58] <whlai> yeah, you
[23:58] <whlai> sorry
[23:58] <whlai> ArrEmmArrEff
[23:59] <whlai> try apt-get dist-upgrade a couple time
[23:59] <whlai> or rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists /var/cache/apt; apt update; apt clean
[23:59] <Bashing-om> ArrEmmArrEff: In "software Sources" uncheck the cdrom box .. you do not need this source .